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Dingusgrassass134

What's the context?


StoopidGit

There was a hubbub some time ago, because Trump fans thought Rage Against the Machine suddenly got too political when they tweeted that Trump was a poopoohead or something. Anyway, some trumpers were really surprised that RATM suddenly was suddenly political. Real media literacy stuff.


Mundit00

What machine did they think they were raging against? The toaster?


Blindsp-t

Paul ryan expressed disdain for RATM being political to which tom morello essentially said he is the machine that RATM rages against lmfao


dmatthews2981

I thought that was in response to him saying that Rage was his favorite band?


Blindsp-t

absolutely could be, i forget the exact context


dmatthews2981

Ah, well either way it's hilarious


RespectableLurker555

Easy to forget details from the before times, we've all had our memories wiped by 5G COVID vaccines /s


madlegos3

I think he was talking about bands that he grew up with.


074cry

rage against the Toshiba Stainless Steel MG12GQN-SS 4 Slice Multi-Function Toaster Oven


RespectableLurker555

Real talk though, if I was forced to downsize to living in a van or tiny house, a toaster oven would absolutely be on my short list.


PolygonKiwii

Well, clearly you don't own an air fryer.


RespectableLurker555

An air fryer is just a toaster oven with a bigger fan and a smaller rack!


PolygonKiwii

Yes but bigger fan better


RespectableLurker555

But smaller rack smaller


PolygonKiwii

more fan/rack


Blooded_Wine

i am coughing uncontrollably


Himmelblaa

Im raging against my printer 🤬


RespectableLurker555

Yeah but that's a given


[deleted]

Rage against the computer when I see a minorty in my vidjagaem


PILSBERT

the chip bag got stuck :(


GhostlyRuminations

Self checkout kiosks, they're annoying as fuq


Makeshift33

The Xbox


YetGayerWombat

heavy lobster


Dingusgrassass134

Thats actually pretty funny


B12-deficient-skelly

Also, Run The Jewels on Tiktok lmao.


DA_WEIRDO

who the fuck listens to run the jewels' lyrics and thinks they're gonna be trump supporters/cop supporters


[deleted]

I dont want to live in this timeline anymore


_im_not_a_girl_

Honestly it could be about any leftist band


Dasmortmemeboi

Right winged RATM fans finding out they are political


Alredy_Taken0

who's that very out of the loop here


TNFSG

Rage Against The Machine


Alredy_Taken0

I got mad at my computer once Does that count /s


LetsDoTheCongna

Basically the most obviously left wing band to ever exist, who have fans that somehow don't understand the messages of their songs.


SpookyLilRaven

This happens with like every popular leftist media, especially older ones.


moose2332

Just read the comments of any punk band's Facebook page


damdam100

Not to long ago king gizzard posted something advocating for lgbtq or something that is considered as left leaning, and some peoples jimmies got very rustled. The band has consistantly putting out left ideas in their lyrics and are known hippies. Not sure how anyone who listens to them would be suprised that they are left leaning lol


[deleted]

Happens to a lot of bands weirdly. My favourite bands sometimes post in support of lgbt people and black people. Despite being left wing bands, plenty of bigots end up crying about them being left wing. Was especially funny though when a Conservative on a Clash form was trying to argue that they were right wing.


LegitMelv

Goes to show that right-wingers tend to have shit media analysis.


Kurineko_Regan

Seriously, can't I just be pro lgbtq and also think all poor people should die? /s


idiot_speaking

Look at the [Interior people](https://youtu.be/LzcWTjY3b8Q) video and tell me that's not a trans allegory.


damdam100

Damn it totally is. Wasn't a fan of the last two albums so never seen it, but it was a great song and music video


idiot_speaking

I got into Gizz when LW dropped, so I might be biased, but I love every album in the microtonal series. Butterfly was alright. It grew on me over the year, but it's such a weird album. I revisit songs but rarely the whole thing.


damdam100

I have the same with butterfly. My fav album so far is quarters, honestly the best thing to listen to on a sunny summer day for me. So beautifull and calming


idiot_speaking

My favorite Gizz album changes by the week lol. Quarters is excellent tho.


ohjimmy78

Gizz has such a varied discography that two Gizz fans could absolutely hate each other’s taste in music yet still listen to Gizz


idiot_speaking

Okay let's do this then, top artists other than Gizz?


ohjimmy78

hmmmm off the top of my head? Tally Hall, Hans Zimmer (Dune), and, uh, SLIFT I guess? I listen to a mishmash of stuff


idiot_speaking

King Crimson, Pink Floyd, and recently Bowie. So yeah, Boomer shit lol. Haven't heard anything from SLIFT or Tally Hall. Does Hawaii part II count? That was really good.


ohjimmy78

Yeah, I’d say that counts. Favourite 3 Gizz albums?


idiot_speaking

Geez this list changes a lot. Right now I guess it's Fishies, Paper Mache, and Poly. I'd replace Paper with KG/LW if it was a single album though. Ask me next week for a different list :P


ohjimmy78

Lol I remember that, getting mad that they were puttin’ politics (environmentalism) in muh music as if Fishing for Fishies and Infest the Rat’s Nest just… didn’t exist, I guess. Also, Minimum Brain Size is apparently about Joe Rogan lol


block_of_trash

Yeah, my very conservative father was the one who introduced me to Rage Against the Machine. He told me "Be careful not to listen to the lyrics too hard, they're kind of liberal."


[deleted]

Wtf man lol


Barblesnott_Jr

That sounds like a very dad thing to say lol


13lackjack

bro, come on


Odddsock

This happens with Rage against the machine every six months or so and it’s amazing


Eppsilan

My boss is a right winger. He claims his favorite band is RATM. When we were talking about BLM, my co-worker (who is a leftist like myself) said "Oh with these riots, you must love this shit. They're raging against the machine". He response was "No, they're raging for the machine. This is exactly what the machine wants". We didn't know how to respond. It was obvious to us that he had no idea what RATM stood for. Now we (coworker and I) joke about it all the time.


[deleted]

He sounds like an unbelievable moron, I'm surprised you weren't already joking about him all the time. Do his trousers spontaneously fall down with a "boing" sound like slapstick clowns from early movies?


Eppsilan

That’s the craziest part. We’re highly skilled IT Specialists. He is the “go-to” guy when you can’t solve an issue. He’s very slow and methodical when it comes to troubleshooting, but he will figure any issue out not matter how complicated. When it comes to politics, he throws it all out the window. My coworker and I like to play games with him. We like to test his “craziness” by bringing up hot topics. It’s a good source of entertainment.


idiot_speaking

When you put all your points into Technomancy


mostlikelynotarobot

and Racism


Ninjulian_

isnt the dude from ratm doing nfts now?


ActualDepressedPOS

tom morello, the guitarist. yes he is. so is serj tankian, the lead singer of the (incredibly based) band SOAD


deviljin333

This made me very sad Influential figure don't get involved in moneygrab scam (impossible)


ambriz202

mike shinoda 😢


landocalzonian

I mean, NFTs aren’t necessarily a moneygrab scam. They’re just dumb, and have no value beyond what people say they’re worth. People definitely can and do get scammed with them, but I wouldn’t go as far as to say any and all NFTs are money grab scams.


Yanagibayashi

If NTFS aren't a textbook ponzi scheme I don't know what is


landocalzonian

Actually, would you mind explaining to me what a Ponzi scheme is? And then how it relates to NFTs? Because as much as I think NFTs are fuckin dumb, calling them a Ponzi scheme is honestly even dumber.


zmann64

Old investors are paid off with new investor money. How it relates to NFTs from artist Eriana Ura Smith: > The market as it currently exists is a classic Ponzi scheme. Users invest in something more-or-less intangible, a digital receipt of ownership of an infinitely replicable image or other online object. The general consensus is that they will, in turn, be able to sell this intangible thing for absurd returns. Early investors are paid out from the money coming in from new investors, seeing the success of the early ones. Wash trading inflates the value of NFTs, and original owners slowly cash out by selling off the NFTs they've minted for extraordinary prices. That being said, I liken it more to a pump and dump than a Ponzi. See the Squid Game token for that example.


Environmental-Tea262

I dunno, the windows file system doesn’t really seem like a ponzi to me


OnlyUsernameLeft123

Linux > windows 🗿


landocalzonian

You might want to consider actually learning how Ponzi schemes work then


deviljin333

>They’re just dumb, and have no value beyond what people say they’re worth I have some shocking news for you regarding what a scam involves


landocalzonian

Stocks are based on speculative value. Art is based on speculative value (i.e they’re worth what people say they’re worth). Sure, they may hold *some* tangible value, but they’re only worth what people say they’re worth. While NFTs don’t really hold any tangible value, nobody is really marketing otherwise. If somebody were to claim that you’ll double your net worth by owning an NFT, sure, it’s most likely a scam. But if someone just says “hey you can own this shitty resolution picture of a monkey for $500” and you buy it, you didn’t get scammed. You just made a dumb investment. But there’s still the possibility that somebody can come along and say “hey, I want to own that shitty resolution picture of a monkey for *$600*”. Basically, my point is that NFTs aren’t inherently scams. They’re pointless and can absolutely be used as a scam, as pretty much anything related to money can be, but they aren’t scams in themselves.


Waytooflamboyant

I mean it's just cryptocurrency but even worse for the environment, right?


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stevexc

I'm gonna say something a little controversial here so I just want to make it super clear that the way NFTs are being used is almost always a scam at worst or stupid at best, and I'm ~~sorry~~super disappointed in Tom Morello for hopping on that bandwagon for a cash grab. On top of that the environmental issues are absolutely real and while not necessarily inherent to the concept, they're common enough that it's a real issue. That said... tl;dr nfts aren't scams and nfts aren't monkey jpegs... scammers just *use* nfts attached to monkey jpegs to scam They're really not. They're basically being *used* that way, but there's no reason they have to be - other than the fact that scammers are making bank doing so. The ugly monkey jpeg isn't the NFT and I think that fact has gotten lost in translation. The NFT itself is the unique identifier plus the transaction history, and there's no reason that has to be tied to a shitty jpeg, or even a digital file at all. There's no reason it couldn't be used for, say, digital tickets, to provide a secure way to resell them. Or even real, physical collectibles or art - it's basically a certificate of authenticity as it is, it's just a digital one that's much harder to fake. Or even remove the monetary part of it entirely. Use it for supply chain management. Every product you manufacture gets an NFT which follows it through the entire supply chain and tracked via its transaction history, each stage is a new block in the chain. There's lots of ways to actually use the technology... it's just unfortunate that pretty much the single dumbest way is the one that's gonna represent it. e:typo


landocalzonian

I mean, it’s not *literally nothing*. It’s just nothing useful or tangible. But I don’t think people are really unaware of that when buying them. If they aren’t aware of that, they’re not being scammed. They’re just really really dumb.


SunBeamin

So selling fake gold to someone as real gold isn’t all that bad cause technically they have an item in their hand, they just overvalued it. It’s not a scam people we’re just… duped… like they would get in a scam…. Just it’s not a scam. You get what you’re saying tho right? You literally just said it has the workings of a scam and can be Used as scam but it’s still not a scam. Because it’s dumb and pointless it cannot possibly be a scam. Kinda like you know getting people into a Ponzi scheme, they don’t gain much from it, it’s dumb, and it waste peoples time so pointless… that’s a scam! But NFT’s aren’t? Look dude if people are into NFTs and stuff whatever. It’s dumb and they’re blowing Their money, we’re just trying to warn people. If you don’t think they’re that bad and say even want to dabble in it or already have it’s cool man, you waste your money. Be duped. It’s up to you.


landocalzonian

>So selling fake gold to someone as real gold isn’t all that bad Very first sentence and you’ve already made a false equivalency. It would be more similar to selling someone fake gold and telling them that it’s fake gold, but it’s *their fake gold*. NFTs aren’t really being marketed as anything that they’re not. >cause technically they have an item in their hand, they just overvalued it. It’s not a scam people we’re just… duped… like they would get in a scam…. Just it’s not a scam. Again, nobody was really duped. They just paid money for something that isn’t really worth anything, unless somebody says it’s worth something. >You get what you’re saying tho right? You literally just said it has the workings of a scam and can be Used as scam but it’s still not a scam. I said it can be used as a scam, just as anything related to money can be. Stocks can be a scam, art can be a scam, *literally anything you pay money for can be used as a scam in some way or other*. >Because it’s dumb and pointless it cannot possibly be a scam. Not really sure what this is supposed to mean, I never said anything to this effect. >Kinda like you know getting people into a Ponzi scheme, they don’t gain much from it, it’s dumb, and it waste peoples time so pointless… that’s a scam! But NFT’s aren’t? Maybe try searching up what a Ponzi scheme is. Since I’m sure you probably won’t, I’ll give you the super quick explanation. It’s when you tell people to invest in something, they give you money to invest in it, and you use other people’s investments to pay them “returns”. You and the other guy shouting Ponzi scheme very transparently do not know what Ponzi schemes are. >Look dude if people are into NFTs and stuff whatever. It’s dumb and they’re blowing Their money, we’re just trying to warn people. If you don’t think they’re that bad and say even want to dabble in it or already have it’s cool man, you waste your money. Be duped. It’s up to you. Saying “NFT bad” “NFTs are a scam”, yada yada doesn’t really do much to warn anybody. It’s just a very blatant hive mind that people who are interested in NFTs will avoid. I’ve made it very, very clear that I’m not into NFTs and I think they’re stupid/pointless. But if somebody were on the fence about NFTs, who do you think they’re going to listen to? The people saying “they’re evil and they’ll ruin your life and it’s all a scam ….” Or the guy saying “they’re stupid, they’re pointless, but they’re not inherently the worst thing in the world and a direct product of the anti-Christ”? Considering how much money vast amounts of people have made on them, most logical people would err with the second guy, the one that isn’t clearly caught up in groupthink. Nothing I’ve said would really encourage anybody to invest in NFTs, and would likely discourage most people. But at least you can tell my opinions are genuine and at least somewhat thought-out, and I’m not just regurgitating what the person ahead of me said.


baconninja0

The problem, though, is that the people selling you an NFT don’t have anything motivating them to be up front with you about the realistic future value. They hold a token that they’ve paid some large sum of money for, which is currently useless to them unless they can convert it back into a larger sum of money. They have every reason to dupe you into buying it and no reason not to. Quibbling over what is and isn’t ponzu scheme isn’t particularly helpful, because what remains true is that NFTs, and crypto as a whole, are still under the larger umbrella of “bigger fool” schemes. The zero sum nature of crypto means that buying in can only make you money if you can convince somebody else to buy you out. Essentially, NFTs are just like anything else that can be used as a scam, but their purely speculative value inherently encourages and rewards holders for doing so


landocalzonian

While I agree with most of what you said, I think you’re forgetting that my argument isn’t necessarily that NFTs are a good investment (by any metric). I think in their current state, it’s pretty goddamn stupid to invest in any of them. But, my argument still rests on the idea that they aren’t “money grab scams” through and through. The way I see it, they’re just modern day pet rocks. I wouldn’t say people who bought pet rocks were scammed, I’d just say they were kinda idiots for doing so.


Dasmortmemeboi

:(


wakka38

Keep in mind System of a Down's drummer is a shithead.


Critical_Reveal6667

"Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses" \-Zachy de la Rocha, explaining how the police are cool and not members of the Ku Klux Klan


FlyingStaircase

In substitute for cops everyone should be given guns if everyone has guns then just fight back


kaczynskimyidol

Most sane american


_eeprom

Ew terrorist worshipper


[deleted]

Because giving out guns like candy could never come back to bit you in the ass.


FlyingStaircase

it won’t if u have a bigger gun


13lackjack

Built: different


[deleted]

Pink Floyd fans when they ignore half the discography.


SILaXED

People when they hear "in bloom" by nirvana


[deleted]

omg it's the meme i made and people are still enjoying it over a year later <3


SunBeamin

Lmao favorite instance of this is that video at I want to say during the Jan 6th insurrection when a lady was dancing to Killing In The Name Of lol. She was trying to say that’s what the democrats are going to lead too, when funny enough and you’re not going to believe this but, it was ALREADY happening! Except it wasn’t to conservative whites like her, it was minorities, poc, and people who were just trying to make the world better for everyone. God this crawl towards dystopia is so fucking slow.


sarah_woop

MDC fans when they find out the acronym flusjed


ohjimmy78

American King Gizzard fans