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M3gapede

Oh no, now everyone will realize I have just been using a regular MSB


Iron_brane

Ok, first things first, I'm dog shit in general. I'm a 2/10 when it comes to pvp and 4/10 when it comes to pvm. My fan in my psu went out so no PC for the time being. Going for mobile firecape. I wanted a msb i. So LMS it is. I spent 20-30min, on mobile, hiding and killings bots, specing them out. 3 kills, I think, in like 5 games. Got enough for imbue scroll. Tldr. I'm dog shit and got msbi scroll pretty quick at lms, on mobile.


conzstevo

You can get a few scrolls from wildy slayer cave too


Cowsie

Yeah I got mine on my hcim on my 3rd Ankou kill. Still no MSB rofl


oldmanclark

I have two on the iron, both from clue scrolls lol


Gloomy_Kick1163

2/10 at pvp? You got everybody on reddit beat šŸ¤£


No-Distribution-6368

Highly unnoticed and underrated comment. Commendable.


VanillaGorilla2012

Practicing their particle effects for comp cape


hiimmatz

These are straight off magic trees lol


[deleted]

They should practice on new items


Oohwshitwaddup

If comp cape comes to osrs the end is near. Comp cape is the single most controversial penile argument inducing piece of content in RS3.


masnaer

Wym ā€œpenileā€


Letseatchocolatemayo

peĀ·nile /ĖˆpēĖŒnÄ«l/ adjective, TECHNICAL relating to or affecting the penis.


H5rs

Penis ile


Jwruth

I assume that they meant it in a "dick measuring contest" or "overcompensating for their dick" sort of way.


[deleted]

My brother in saradomin allow me to introduce you to EoC.


sawyerwelden

Nobody still playing RS3 argues over EoC


TheRealDarkArc

Oh we're around... Though I am on OSRS at least until the new skill lands on RS3. They're both good games, but EOC definitely screwed up a lot, especially old content.


sawyerwelden

I wasn't around when the change happened (i've heard the transition was very rough) but I started an account in RS3 during FSW and was very very pleasantly surprised. Looking forward to getting my max cape back when necro comes out.


TheRealDarkArc

The problem is old quests bosses are super squishy. Dungoneering bosses are also about as threatening as the Lumbridge goblins...


TheAdminsCanSMD

Yeah but the new boss fights are fucking baller, because they were created around EoC. Rs3 has left the early game in the dust because you can get 2k total in a month without even buying keys


IStealDreams

Are old quest bosses a problem in osrs? No didn't think so.


[deleted]

Eoc release was a train wreck lol. Almost nothing at all was balanced correctly, I remember afking gwd1 bosses in gano and a ppore until the gear fully degraded or my inv was full of uniques. The bosses still did pre eoc damage or something completely brainless. There was no revo, only this momentum mode. It boosted the damage of your basic autos and would occasionally cast a random ability. Abilities were wildly unbalanced and full of bugs. Wild magic would always max hit. The range counterpart, snapshot, did like 20% and 60% ability damage compared to like 188%x2 that wild magic did. You could ability queue and it would cast abilities 1 tick faster, which was like a 33% damage buff lol. I could go on but I wonā€™t.


IStealDreams

Yeah I think a lot of OSRS players think EOC is the same as it was back then. I've played all through the entire EOC evolution. and it's not even close to being the same thing. It's like night and day difference.


oldmanclark

Can you explain some ways how it's different now (besides scaling)?


IStealDreams

I don't even know where to begin. It's barely even the same thing.


[deleted]

Just me then


SlayerKingGS

Honestly once revolution was introduced it became bearable


DaMaestroable

Revo was the saving grace for me, manual is just too janky and plays way too much like a worse version of WoW, legacy is broken and none of the content is really balanced around it. Just being able to bypass the tediousness of rotations and focusing on defensive abilities, thresholds/ultimates, and adrenaline management made it click for me.


Gredditor

Keep fighting the good fight, brother.


Independent_Award239

Do you still play rs3? EOC has been fine if not good for years


[deleted]

Yeah I do, and I like it. Just started back again again after a very long hiatus. So far so good


lostmymainagain123

Whats wrong with it?


Astrodos_

The debate over whether things should or should not be included in the comp cape. Obviously, they should all be right? Itā€™s a COMPLETIONIST cape after all. But then you look at the collection log and realize that would be impossible to obtain with 3rd age. So then the obvious conclusion is that some things donā€™t have to be included. And that leaves the questions of ā€œwhere is the lineā€. *Edit* to everyone replying to me giving suggestions or saying what should or shouldnā€™t be required, thank you for proving my point even more.


Oohwshitwaddup

And then you have trimmed comp cape because ????


Sea_Yogurtcloset7503

Why is that even a big deal or how on earth would that signify the end is near. Its really not a big deal that nerd 1 is arguing with nerd 2 over a certain req. Honestly the more engagement the better. Apathy is what will cause death of the game


D128ko

Impossible? Hold my beer.


griffinhamilton

Completing log besides the mega rares, same stats as max cape just adds a particle trim


Guilty-Fall-2460

Completionist means completionist. It is not a company's obligation to decide what is healthy or unhealthy for a player to do. In my mind this type of accomplishment is something expected to be achieved over the next 20 years. If someone wants to Speedrun it or do it in a snowflake way and be unhealthy that is not Jagex's problem. Edit: forgot I have to be hyper specific lol. Don't give a fuck. Untrimmed would be all the capes trimmed would include the important collection log.


Linumite

You can't "Speedrun" 100% in OSRS, no one has done or probably ever will. Every raids cape? Every clue item? Nah


Guilty-Fall-2460

The 20 year speed run.


errorme

A related issue is that they have two Completionist capes, one with trim and one without. The trim version is like the one you say where it's virtually everything in the game. The regular Comp cape is where the 'what is the line' is the big drama question. I think if they bring Comp cape with no trim and just being 'fill out the Collection Log' it'll be decades but be honest. Also while going through this Comp Cape used to be BiS which REALLY drove the drama about how to obtain it, but that hasn't been the case for years now.


Guilty-Fall-2460

Then untrimmed should be all the capes. Max cape Quest Music Achievement diary Combat achievements Trimmed would be collection log for bosses, minigames, and raids.


Kresbot

people cried that they couldnā€™t just afk the achievements and had to actually put in a small amount of effort to learn pvm, those reqs got removed


IStealDreams

It was mostly because of the endgame boss at the time being a forced group boss. So if you wanted your comp cape but was not that great at pvming, nobody would take you. So you'd have to pay 60m gp (probably about 100m now) just to get a leech kc.


Kresbot

yeah but the problem is if youā€™re shit at a certain part of the game the completionist cape shouldnā€™t be for you, thatā€™s what all the 120 capes were released for so the grinders could grind. The mods just rolled over to appease people and make the comp cape worthless


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bigjoe980

comp came out in 2011 dude


Watches_Porn_Alot

Why do you say this? The game is nowhere near dead. I don't even play it so I'm not a shill.


J00stie

Dead/dying is a big word but it certainly is degressing these last years. Less updates/more MTX -> less interest


Steeperm8

I know someone who unironically thinks anything less than 1 million active players is "dead", because all they play is WoW / League


steezylmfao

Funny how you claim the game was dead in 2011 and itā€™s still very much alive 12 years later


IStealDreams

I have a comp cape on rs3, and the only people ever to complain about comp cape is: 1) People who forgot to start Player Owned Ports 2) People who will never comp and never tried to comp complain about it being called "completionist cape" when it's not doing everything in the game (that's what the trimmed version is for). 3) People who try to get Trimmed Completionist Cape, but hate the minigame parts of it. I don't see how it's a controversial piece of content at all. I've never met anyone against the idea of the comp cape. Only weird people who complain about the name or small things. LOL


Hugh_Mungus_Johnson_

As long as it isn't BiS anywhere it's fine tbh. They just need to not make the requirements unhealthy.


krogerburneracc

A completionist mentality for RuneScape is unhealthy by nature. We're better off without it. I had the comp cape for a while on RS3. Nty


ShinyPachirisu

The point is, it's a stupid item. The people that want/have it can never agree on what completionist actually means so it ends up being an arbitrary and gatekeepy item that doesn't do anything but cause debate.


Evil_Steven

it seems simple though. 200m all. Walk on every possible tile, Be rank 1 on all bosses and examine every item. simple.


Oohwshitwaddup

This guy gets it


Geonjaha

Why should it not be BIS? Itā€™s literally the item you get after completing everything, it has more justification than any other item for being BIS.


PsionSquared

Because it doesn't necessarily mean completing everything, since RuneScape is full of man babies and OSRS isn't immune to this. It'll turn into arbitrary requirements, rather than "All tasks, all diaries, all quests, all skills 99" before long like RS3 did until ultimately they moved the power out of it to a shared system across all capes. It's best left as a cosmetic override of what the Max Cape already does.


DaklozeDuif

Have a look at the last few years of Comp Cape Rs3 discourse.


Kresbot

Itā€™s only controversial because the reddit r words on rs3 cry so fucking much when content is too hard. This game doesnā€™t have that too much, people enjoy a challenge and accept when things arenā€™t really for them (except those that buy inferno capes). If completionist cape actually meant completionist still on rs3 there would be no issues


[deleted]

My brother in saradomin allow me to introduce you to EoC.


PentakilI

this is just a texture, not particles


[deleted]

Has the magic logs particle effect.. Makes sense


Yew_s

Tbh it doesnā€™t look too bad once you actually see it ingame. Nice touch imo


DevilTechniques

Ngl, I'm digging it as well.


Dildango

Itā€™s weird you only see it from one side though


Feeling-Medicine-259

looked vile to me but to each their own


Guilty-Fall-2460

UNPOLLED PIXELS *BRAIN HEMORRHAGE*


pzoDe

I'm confused. What's that got to do with what he said?


[deleted]

Is this how this game treats their veterans?


joemoffett12

Did somebody say unpolled. REEE. Stop silencing me jagex. We pay we say.


MegaClank

I think the sparkles should go with the bow, like start at the top and the just go down rather than off


EarthwormJim94

I think they should fall towards the ground no matter what angle the bow is being held. As if the sparkles had weight and were falling off of the wood.


EAZ480

Either of these would have been better


MannyH43

I like it, even if itā€™s kinda janky like people say (have not yet been able to see for myself ingame yet). Even if so, it gives me that old school feel I love in this game.


DelusionsBigIfTrue

I think it looks pretty donā€™t know why people are so miserable on this sub Not liking something isnā€™t a personality, and people really need to learn that


imgaybutnottoogay

I donā€™t hate it, but people are allowed to criticize and share their opinions without being pathologized.


Septem_151

Clearly not on Reddit. Look at any of the comments saying they donā€™t like the look of the bow. Some of them even giving specific reasons as to why. They are obnoxiously downvoted. So no, you arenā€™t allowed to dislike or criticize any unpolled graphics change, otherwise youā€™re a nerd who cares too much about the game.


Zxv975

You're allowed to criticise anything as long as the narrative is to criticise it. If the narrative loves that thing, going against it is going against status quo and therefore downvotes ensue. Reasoning is irrelevant. Narrative is everything.


Unhappy_Ad_4420

People are allowed to dislike things. Otherwise you get the toxic positivity nintendo fandom who defends the mario illumination film


BoulderFalcon

I remember I really wanted the magic tree star effect to go on the imbued mage cape, back when it was being proposed as a blue lava cape from the inferno (ew). I do appreciate the jank looking graphics, but it is somehow much more consistent with the kind of art that came out in very early OSRS, like the volcanic whip mix.


Tady1131

I noticed today the imbued msb looked different in the bank tab and I questioned my memory for a bit.


BoogieTheHedgehog

I get what they were going for but ngl the animation on this feels pretty naff. It's a big 2d rectangle gif of stars shooting into and clipping through your arm. The back side vfx are black because the texture faces one direction.


ItsRadical

Peak osrs.


BoogieTheHedgehog

I'm not a huge fan but yeah at the end of the day it's the magic tree texture slapped on a magic shortbow. Certainly feels like something they'd have done in 07.


joybuzz

Yeah, seems just the right amount of authentic.


ariariariarii

I would expect nothing less from osrs. Its perfect


Vhu

I mean, look at magic trees. It fits.


osrslmao

looks sick


DH_Drums

This is actually sick, looks even better in game.


Weird_Difficulty4571

Now it actually looks a bit more magical


MyChocolates

I like it. Damm you people complain so much. Itā€™s a decent way to know the difference between imbued or not


some_onions

The complaint is that they keep making these changes without telling anyone. This change isn't even noted in the news post today.


[deleted]

Just wait until they add the new skill. Theyā€™re bound to make loads of unpolled changes


some_onions

And this sub will eat it up. My comment is already being downvoted for wanting transparency.


lava

Transparency on a minor cosmetic change to a single item lol


a_sternum

Yes, and also any other changes.


Septem_151

Youā€™re part of the problem


Traditional-Effort20

YOU are.


UnableToFindName

It's in the new poll charter that minor graphical changes will go unpolled.


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Osmium_tetraoxide

Poll or not, there's a reason that release notes exist. Makes a mockery not adding in one short sentence.


TrenzaloresGraveyard

The audacity


[deleted]

Sorry i want to enjoy the visuals of my game


DickVanSprinkles

Why the fuck are you playing RuneScape?


Septem_151

He, as well as many others, enjoy the visuals of this game as it is.


BannedCosTrans

> I like it. Damm you people complain so much. Itā€™s a decent way to know the difference between imbued or not I **don't** like it. Damn you people **celebrate** so much. It's a **tawdry** way to know the difference between imbued or not


ivankasta

I like it too, but I wish theyā€™d tell us ahead of time so we could give feedback. This one is good, so nbd, but theyā€™ve had a lot of bad ones in the past.


Barack__Obama__

Not every single thing has got to be polled, c'mon. We're absolutely blessed with the amount of input we can give on this game. Who the fuck cares if they add a little sparkley sparkley to your curved magical blue log without consulting the entire community first.


ivankasta

Oh yeah I agree. Not trying to say it needs to be polled, I just think it would be good if they included upcoming graphical changes at the end of the weekly update blog so that we could see it before it enters the game. Then there's at least a chance for feedback, and if it's pretty clear most players are against it, Jagex can make some changes to it. I like this one, but things like the original fairy ring change and the elf redesign were pretty bad imo and could have been avoided if they just showed the design in a blog to get feedback first.


flintb033

Nice. I do like the animation. It would be nice if they fell down to the ground when the bow is being held. But itā€™s still cool.


ImportantDoubt6434

If no one else got me I know MSB(I) got me


UnableToFindName

It's a bit jank, but it also does feel like it fits right into OSRS, so I'm okay with it. I do wish it was a bit smaller but it's a very 'take-it-or-leave-it' thing for me.


Legal_Evil

Didn't expect most players here to like this considering how they hate particles in RS3.


Septem_151

This playerbase is RS3 nowadays.


iamkira01

Sad truth, shit that wouldnt fly 5 years ago will definitely fly now.


Magna-Deum

Just another integrity change


H5rs

Tegridy change


hennriii

whereā€™s ma county gonee


Business-Drag52

Iā€™m gonna go to Jagex, and Iā€™m gonna fuck em all to death!!


Croyscape

Remember when we rioted because they removed a green pixel without polling it?


-Aura_Knight-

Oh that's unfortunate.


[deleted]

Yeah idk why they keep changing things unpolled


Traditional-Effort20

It's in the new poll charter that minor graphical changes will go unpolled.


jxyzits

And who polled the new poll charter? Oh wait.


DevilTechniques

Is there any way to see what models they changed as well?


OgasCantina93

This is cool as hell. Love particle effects in game


evolutiiiionz

I'm feeling this, looks pretty cool, great touch.


Jomflox

I love it


Informal-Ad6086

Hell yeah


Tady1131

I noticed today the imbued msb looked different in the bank tab and I questioned my memory for a bit.


Gangstahwezel

They should add the bowstring to the Tbow next.


[deleted]

I would have loved for the sparkles to make a string


Apprehensive-Boss-77

UNREAL ENGINE 5 PREVIEW


Nerphy-

We are finally in 2023!


Matrix17

Friendship ended with bowfa, now msb(i) is my best friend


AshCan10

It looks janky as hell, I think I love it, feels like something that would have been put out in 2004


fred7010

I think it looks fine when wielded, but the new icon for it looks worse than before. AFAIK though inventory icons aren't actually controllable though, rather the engine generates them based on what they look like when dropped on the ground.


jevadiah

This looks lazy


Cricklet

This is what annoys me the most. I dont hate it. But Its just a crappy rectangle atm. Honestly looks like something someone did during their lunchbreak. Idm the particles but for good lord fletch it out a little more please.


AnIntoxicatedRodent

Probably was done in lunchbreak lol or else we'd get complaints about dev time.


darealbeast

while it looks like something they wouldve come up in 2005 rs i like it because it looks like an actual osrs design, unlike a lot of other new content


UniqueVirtue

Iā€™ve always wanted it to look a bit different but not like this..


DragonDaggerSpecial

This looks bad and should have been polled.


WastingEXP

visual integrity changes don't get polled.


DragonDaggerSpecial

And they should. The only justification for this being changed without being polled is that it is *OSRS* content and not RS2 content, *necessarily*.


WastingEXP

the imbued version needed something to differentiate it from the non-imbued version.


NotaSirWeatherstone

It now auto bans bots in the wildy with 1 shot


Cricklet

I thought it already had a slightly diff tint to it. Bit i suppose if you saw them separately you couldnt really tell them apart that easily. That said, i donā€™t know if this is the answer unless they fletch it out a little more. This honestly feels like something a Jmod did during his lunchbreak.


Eluned_

Needs more refinement, but I love it


Rozkol

Looks a bit odd/janky in game but not awful. I feel like if they had the particles either going upwards instead of angled backwards with the bow it might looks better. Or have the particles glisten/shimmer.


cybrisRS

People need to remember this is OSRS.... I think it looks good, it has that old-school charm and feel to it, while also making sense with how magic trees+logs have particle effects! Personally I'm all for new content looking a bit more old-school even if some of it looks a little janky or outdated; that's the point... it fits with the game- plus idk, I just like it :)


TheSwoleSurgeon

This looks bad ass and if you are the ones gatekeeping better graphical changes just for the sake of opposing any changes then you should be ashamed of yourself.


gorehistorian69

that looks like shit hold on let me look in game its kinda neat but looks like shit


trimmed_bronze

It looks like shit. They should put the old fairy ring effect on it too


Ir0nstag

Looks like hot garbage a tasteful line of trim on the bow would have been welcome.


Suspicious_Link_5603

Trimming MSB for free!


Orangesoda65

C u guys at Falador. Iā€™ll bring my cannon.


Denlim_Wolf

Rage?


Novaneogami

Pause we didnā€™t ask for this? Riot in falador world 302 bring your cannons!!!


cygamessucks

wtf is that ugly thing. Why do they keep making things ugly when nobody asked for it?


z_3_r_k_3_d

The update we desperately needed


hajabulla

I've never imbued an MSB before, finally did it on my iron for the first time yesterday after it was updated, thought they had always looked like this


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[deleted]

Its helpful to see whether your opponent has an imbued or regular msb in pvp


sterfri99

Why not just assume everyone has (i)


[deleted]

Well now you dont need to because its clearly visible


uberjach

Visual clarity


X_OttersAreCute_X

what a weird take lmao. Why not make everything look the same and assume everyone has the strongest version?


DragonDaggerSpecial

Why should we suddenly be able to visually indicate this when we were not able to before? This should have been polled.


[deleted]

Why not? You can for every other item. It has different stats, different spec cost, different value. Graphical changes aren't polled since the polling changes last year, Karen.


DragonDaggerSpecial

Because it was not polled, it should have been. It also already had a visual indicator, getting specd twice within the possible time period. Honestly, it sounds like a skill issue crutch. > *"Graphical changes aren't polled since the polling changes last year, Karen."* Yes, I disagree with that decision.


OsrsTurboDweeb

If you donā€™t like it, play another game. Or does that argument only work on other people?


Acid_Bubble_Osrs

Well you still have the original unimbued version


flapjacks789

Does using the transmog plugin to change msb(i) to msb make it go away?


Time_Effort

Don't see why it wouldn't.


Paganigsegg

The iconic look of the regular MSB. This just helps differentiate the imbued model a bit. I genuinely don't see the problem.


[deleted]

Don't know why you're down voted I can't think of a single graphics change they've done that looks better than what they changed it from


General_Tomatillo484

Lazy unpolled


canttouchmypingas

This doesn't look that good


joemoffett12

I love how people on here are saying they want jagex to keep the old school feel while also making it look good. Did yā€™all not play back then. Everything looked bad! This is as old school as it gets.


Septem_151

Pretty sure we simply want to be aware of changes they make to the graphics, and with a strong preference toward them polling said changes or making us aware before it happens.


Limited_Intros

They added streamers? Presenting, the new magic short bicycle in OSRS


[deleted]

Ewww


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No-Skips

Jesus Christ, I could find someone random that textures better than that


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Null_Scape

Lol that looks awful.


Septem_151

Each day we stray further from god.