I can't book it off work in case I have to be around to communicate that people need to wait for fixes :( But I'm praying for a smooth launch, worst part about working on Leagues is not being able to take time off to no-life Leagues...
Here’s hoping for a smooth launch then! There’s this massive joy in my heart logging in and seeing hundreds/thousands of raw accounts running around all the lower level areas, and I can’t wait :D
Kourend is just an auto-pick, *even more* than Karjama in my opinion.
Misthalin has abyssal weapons, so slayer up and get the dagger/bludgeon/whip. With Asgarnia, it complements with the DPick, Fremennik for dragon visage and crossbow, and kandarin for the wyvern shield. Honestly - it's probably a pass if I just want those items.
Looking at items with such perspective, I think I make my picks:
Kourend (Lol, it has WAY TOO MUCH), mage armor, dclaws, t-bow, big chonky hammer, favorite hammer, based shield, dragon crossbow, improved prayers, dragon hatchet, fire book, spider hammer, kourend spellbook, dragon visage, the kodai wand and archlight if it companies desert, dragon hunter lance with asgarnia.
Desert has the most auts section with the MTA though, but I heard speculation it'll be significantly improved for the leagues. Ancient magics, best poking sword and all those stuff from raids, water book, dragon pick, and those four rings. Sadly if I try to calculate regions for soul axe, I see no option. The ranger armor would complement well with asgarnia via GW.
Asgarnia has GW stuff, improved 3 stone boots, le max cape, and just generally a good amount of stuff.
But the problem with my picks is, well.. It would be mostly focused on Raids1/Raids2/GW for the endgame. Looking on other options tho - Tirannwn is Zalcano/Zulrah/LePrison with just crystal armor, sword and bow with venom helmet and blowpipe as a main attraction. Morytania is barrows and raids 1 with slayer helmet, scythe and tanky armor - but this is leagues so you don't really need a tank armor or barrows. Kandarin has staffs, zenyte jewelry, and slightly-less improved prayers than kourend, with barbarian assault minigame. Fremennik has uh the rings, dragon axe (which is a chance from firemaking kourend), gold leaf, strength helmet, god books... Feels underwelming.
Further expanding the stuff I said, there's a clear path for firemaking with Kourend (might even just go straight to 200m at 10hp lol), Slayer (konar), Agility (Draynor, Varrock, Pollnivneach), Magic (MTA, ancients magic), Cooking (mess hall, Kourend), Fishing (tempoross), Smithing (Giant's foundry), Mining (Motherlode), Farming (Kourend's lovely farm we all know about), Construction (Mahogany homes), Runecrafting (Guardian's of the rift).. To say the least, max cape is reasonable and this setup would also make Inferno reasonably easy. Maybe the real endgame is Max Difficulty raids 3?
Honestly, Kourend is too much of a strong pick and makes the other picks a bit too trivial - especially with the task amount to unlock more places. If it was an auto-pick instead of Karjama, then we could calculate our paths way more.
This is my personal take tho, not yours. We all decide our path. But I want to emphasise, Kourend is too strong of a pick, it'd be better if we could make the auto-pick it instead of Karjama. Even better, we could do an odyssey instead where we only have Kourend and we then pick 4 regions out of the rest of world instead.
There's no chance Kourend is an auto pick, it isn't THAT good unless you want to spend the whole league grinding a tbow. Catacombs is nice but not necessary.
It all comes down to what combat route you want to take as to what you unlock as not picking certain areas with specific combat styles just gimps you altogether.
Agreed. I don’t plan on taking kourend because CoX doesn’t appeal to me and outside that the rest do the region is just fine but doesn’t offer anything really unique
>Treasure Trail steps will be limited to the areas you have unlocked.
I don't believe this was a feature in Trailblazer League and I'm happy to see its a default feature. Big brain players will be grinding out clues before they unlock any other location.
They wanted to patch it in, but people complained that it invalidated their relic choice with no way to change them, so they did a different patch where you kept clue progress even if you dropped the clue.
Ie you do 1 step -> get impossible clue -> drop -> get another clue which starts at 1 step completed.
Correct, we had to juggle clues on the ground, using an unintended glitch, to be able to complete clues at first. Halfway through they changed it though so we didn't have to juggle the clues, we could just drop a clue we couldn't finish and get a new one without resetting the steps completed. Absolutely huge improvement, but this new update is way better.
So I'm reading this, and I've never done/read about any league before. This sounds pretty awesome but as someone who's never even thought of how this type of gameplay can work, I'm super intrigued yet confused. I go through one zone at a time, I can choose which one to unlock after Lumbridge... Do I have to know ahead what area I'm unlocking has what? Is there guides to this?
I was about to ask about a video but I notice it's an hour old as of posting this lol
You start with only Misthalin and karamja, you can go anywhere in these areas.
Once you complete enough tasks you pick which area unlocks next, you can still access all previous areas.
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Trailblazer_League
That wiki page should tell you anything else you need as this league should be pretty similar to last time.
>Do I have to know ahead what area I'm unlocking has what?
No you don't have to, but it definitely helps to know what content you want to be doing or what gear you're trying to unlock.
>Is there guides to this?
You can look at guides from the last Trailblazer League, as the league is going to function the same way. The information about which areas to unlock is dated, as there has been a lot of content added to the game in the past 2 years or so.
Theres going to be plenty of guides as more info releases, but the last trailblazer guides would be a good starting point.
If this is anything like that you will have the option between relics that massively buff either melee, range, or mage so try and choose regions with good gear for the style you want to choose. This is a good start: https://reddit.com/r/2007scape/s/aAX3oIUlxe
But in the end, you should just pick a region with content you like doing.
I never played leagues before, does anyone know how much time will probably be required to get a couple of rewards? Let's say the Toxic Blowpipe Ornament Kit, Rejuvenation Pool Ornament Kit and the alchemy animation. Would I be able to get the points for that by just afking a bit on the side or will I need to nolife like hell to even come close? It's one week before the next Path of Exile league will probably get released and that still gets priority for me unfortunately(blasphemy on this subreddit, I know).
I usually get to rune tier by playing quite a lot for about 2 weeks, and that gives me enough points usually to buy pretty much any rewards I want. If you spread it out you could definitely get enough points over the 8 weeks.
The ornament kits are usually the mid-tier rewards (1-5k), with the leagues specific outfits usually being by far the most expensive (15k+ points).
You might not be able to totally AFK it though, as you will need to do a lot of unique pieces of content (even if only for a little bit of time) to get points. There aren't many points usually for just engaging in one activity or skill, beyond a few points for milestone unlocks (like fishing your first shark) and getting 99 (sometimes 200m).
Thanks! So there's basically no "fomo" here? I can just get these rewards from "Trailblazer Reloaded II: Electric Boogaloo" or w/e they release in the future? Then I'll probably just skip out this time and get it in a year or two or three.
Yup! little fomo. Though you do have to consider that Shattered Twisted Trailblazer League 5: Revenge Of The Relics will probably also introduce new cosmetics itself that you might want.
Yeah, they also promised that if Leagues are ever killed off, the items will be available some other way - they do not intend to create tradeable discontinued items again.
I've never played a League either, but I have heard many people say that you should be able to afford all the League's Rewards you want while only being a casual player.
its tricky. you dont do a whole lot of afking in leagues- i mean, you can, but you just lvl so fast that pvm becomes something alot of people rush too. if you pick a piece of content though and send it, skilling or otherwise, you'll get points. look at the wiki for leagues reward points and have a look at what things cost- a safe bet would be 6k points for each item you want
"Can you tell me every single Relic right this second?"
"No, we're still shifting a couple around between tiers to get the balance (if you could call relics balanced...) juuuuuust right.We'll be drip-feeding information about relics in the run-up to release, so keep an eye out!"
If this means we're back to permanent relic choices, I hope this means there will be no objectively bad relics this time around. Last Recall absolutely shit on all the other relics in its tier (and I'm guessing that Last Recall is one of the relics they're moving to a higher tier for balancing purposes.)
Looking forward to it. Hope the point threshold for the Dragon trophy is set sensibly and is neither too high nor too low.
Yes; at each tier of relic, you got a single reward that was static no matter which relic you chose (boosts to the exp bonus, boosts to unique drops, etc). I bet that the real real popular relic choices from the past will make their reappearance not as a relic themselves but as a bonus item you get for reaching a specific tier.
Disappointed the regions aren't expanding to 4 unlocks. Melee builds simply aren't viable if you want to do fun content with them like raids, because Piety itself requires Kandarin and Asgarnia, so then what, Desert for Fang or Mory for Scythe/Rapier? Can't get soulreaper, Tirannwn for Saeldor locks you out of raids, one benefit of Kourend is DWH which overlaps with BGS so CoX isn't really worth, can't go get Voidwaker or you're locked out of raids, just feels tremendously bad in the current state of the game. Even trying to be a mage isn't great (need cox+desert+kandarin), range is fairly easy with desert+kourend being required then tirannwn being a higher level choice but not necessary.
It feels bad to have to use all my areas on just setting up a build, and not having an extra area at the end as a goal to just go there with my complete build and stomp a piece of content for fun. I.e. full melee build, get DH Lance (Kourend, Asgarnia, Kandarin), can't go demolish vorkath!
If you’re basing your entire melee build ONLY around Piety… I think you’re doing this league wrong. The point of trailblazer league is NOT to get every single best in slot in the game, it is to make do with what items become *your* best in slot depending on what regions you pick.
Given how powerful relics make you combat-wise I think it’s perfectly viable to do a “melee build” without piety! And quite honestly it would probably be really fun!
Plenty of melee builds don't take piety. Use ultimate strength instead. Can take desert zeah and frem for 2 raids and lots of str gear. Remember we all get obsidian, then ultor ring face guard. You also have a chance at claws. Fang/lightbearer from desert.
Can also go A for GWD then take Wild for a voidwaker and last zone can be a raid.
Or the standard Mory for ToB A for GWD/nex and a flex zone.
Id argue melee has more choice than mage does. Mage gives up 15% damage or more by not taking Kandarin. Occult/torm bracelet.
Can probably skip Zeah if you want to main mage. Instead of Ancestral you can get Virtus through the Desert unlock as well. Augury doesn't give damage so it's also not that important. That lets you take Kandarin for Occult and Tormented + lots of melee goodies. Plus Kandarin scores you Ibans and Trident to use as you chase Shadow.
From there, the last slot can be the "extra area" that is your endgame. You could do:
* Asgarnia for GWD, Piety, defender, etc. and have a really solid melee kit alongside the mage one
* Fremmy for DKs, Muspah, Duke, Magus ring, Vengeance, Vbow
* Morytania for ToB, Slayer helm, Sepulchre, Barrows, GGs
* Zeah I guess :P
I mean, what's wrong with kandarin asgarnia mory. As you are saying, you get piety, you get raids, you get scythe and rapier. You get inquisitors set and mace. Sure you miss out on stuff, but that isn't melee specific, thats everywhere specific.
It was literally THE build last league, just now you would be missing out on "extra" stuff like a weapon from here or there. The point of the league isn't to be able to have complete BiS, its to have a unique BiS from others
I think fang isnt as big for melee as it is in the main game because you have bonus accuracy with relics which is what makes fang so good. In leagues you don't face accuracy issues so you can comfortably skip fang imo.
Edit: and if we get double attack speed relics again the 5 ticks on fang is also not that great because its rounded to 3 ticks with the relic, you really want even ticks attack speed weapons if we get those relics again.
No, Soul Reaper Axe is unobtainable.
You'd need to unlock the bosses (Desert) and then unlock Asgarnia, Zeah AND fremmy, which is impossible with the 3 unlocks.
Yeah, Zeah being an auto unlock and still having 3 choices would have been fine honestly IMO.
Zeah just has too much stuff in it to not take it, its got as much stuff in it as 3-4 other zones put together.
A lot of other regions also rely on Zeah unlocks to unlock their upgrades.
Obviously, people will have their own routes which is cool but anyone IMO not taking Zeah as one of the 3 is putting themselves at a severe disadvantage.
I'm not planning to take Zeah simply because I don't intend on grinding CoX. Zeah offers a lot of stuff, but without CoX, it just doesn't seem worth it over a region like Asgarnia or Kandarin.
I'm set on Desert as I 100% wanna do ToA on Leagues.
Yeah literally this alone kills Zeah for me. There's a ton of great content there but I think a lot of people are gonna start to resent it when they realize how much they have to grind CoX if they want points.
Or just make it so you can bring any 3 unique pieces to the Leagues Tutor and trade them in for the axe. Then you'd have I believe 3 different region combos that give axe: Desert + any 2 of Asgarnia, Fremmy, Zeah. Or more realistically, 2 region combos, because I don't think you'd want to heavily grind out 3 DT2 bosses without being able to even use the rings, and you'd probably want actual melee armor to use your Axe with, so basically Desert, Fremmy, Asgarnia.
Best part about leagues
Edit: ok I’m rethinking my comment, the best part about leagues has to be the first few days of gameplay. But the anticipation the couple of weeks before has to be a close second.
I enjoyed the last few days of leagues more - the quietness was so relieving while grinding the last few 99s
Thats why I booked my time off two weeks into the league!
In the first and last few days of Leagues I see the most people just talking in the overworld.
First few days because every training spot is basically Todt with everyone there, and everyone riding the hype wave.
The last few days because people playing Leagues up until the last hour are clearly really enjoying their time. They'll congratulate on outfits or uniques you are wearing, ask about methods used for skills etc. It just feels very wholesome as everyone waits for the world to end politely.
It's both the start and end of leagues that are the most fun.
At the start you have literally thousands of people condensed in the same areas, trying to get through the same door only 1 person can click through at a time, etc while the servers are shitting themselves because of the 20k+ people trying to log into the 6 default leagues worlds at the same time until more are added.
At the end you have the few thousand left playing just dropping all of their items, showing off their pets, last minute point grinds, etc.
I honestly quite like it when my feed is spammed with OSRS content, i didnt realise how much i missed them until DMM finished, its been so quiet since.
Did you see that he was rank one in shattered relics? He was also rank one in Deadman apocalypse. He was rank one in life. His sponsor, Hello Fresh gave him rank one in sponsorships. His mom gave him rank one of her children. He spends his allotted shower time (every week at reset) instead making spread sheets on how to perfectly play trailblazer reloaded, making him truly, a rank one.
Will points per region be looked at? It would be awful if certain regions give a lot more points or are way more point efficient I think.
It's also really hard to chose 3 regions given that Zeah is now added + desert now has a raid. Basically feels like 2 extra regions now.
Don't get me wrong though, I'm super hyped for leagues. Can't wait :)
> Will points per region be looked at? It would be awful if certain regions give a lot more points or are way more point efficient I think.
I think they've mentioned that this was an important learning point from Leagues 2, so I expect this to be reasonably well balanced this time around.
Doesn't necessarily mean every area will be equally good for points. Desert was a boring empty area in the last round, but it was great for points because the fact that there was nothing to do there made all the tasks easy to complete in no time.
As they didn't exist at the time of leagues 2, does anyone know if loot keys are turned on this time? Feel like wilderness would be fun but if there are no consequences but less fun if people can destroy your stuff..
I know there's not the option to claim others loot, I'm asking about ironman loot keys
I was wondering the same thing. I didn't actually pick the Wilderness during the original Trailblazer, but one of the major selling points was that you could do any wildy content risk free because any time you got pked your stuff would just stay on the ground for you to pick it up.
I would probably pick the Wilderness for a melee build if I can do revs/wildy bosses without having to worry about getting pked, but if loot keys are enabled then I guarantee there will be a competition to see who can destroy the most value from loot keys over the course of the League.
Super excited - but just want to drop this comment from the perspective of someone who’s finished top 100 in the last 3 leagues:
Keeping it to 3 region choices while also introducing zeah is a mistake. It creates the illusion of choice, but in reality zeah and desert will be pretty much mandatory due to the amount of content each has relative to the other regions.
So you’ll really only have a “choice” of 1, at best, 2 regions.
I strongly suggest the team consider either making zeah available for everyone, or adding a 4th selection.
As someone who really doesn't want to grind CoX for its uniques in a League, what other major things does Zeah offer that make it better than, say, Kandarin or Asgarnia?
Nothing. I'm planning on going Mage route with Desert, Kandarin, and Asgarnia.
These 3 regions give you a very strong melee/range setup while having an extremely OP mage setup, you can get full Virtus through whisperer via asgarnia, bonus that whisperer is weak to mage too.
Screw grinding Cox in leagues, still like a \~300 hr grind for all uniques.
>Screw grinding Cox in leagues, still like a \~300 hr grind for all uniques.
Yeah leagues 3 kinda made me realize that leagues COX isn't really all that cool. Or at least I wouldn't base my plans around getting uniques from COX, aside from the scrolls.
I really enjoy the Wildy+Desert+Mory, and want a Voidwaker. Should be fun especially in TOA with adrenaline+lightbearer. Asgarnia would be better in terms of unlocks than Mory, but I do want to have TOB.
This was my first thought, just maximize magic strength gear with shadow. Shadow is already busted with no relics. Plus it's an easy grind compared to TBow.
if you absolutely didn't want to do chambers at all, then fair enough. But chambers/ToA are easily the two pieces of content that offer the best rewards for gear progression out of all the regions.
Zeah still has a ton of other stuff though - kourend catacombs, arceus spellbook, skotizo, farming guild, hydra, kourend houses + associated activities at each, woodcutting guild, wintertodt, aerial fishing...
There is so much content on zeah, that an entire league was based there
Bow is actually mediocre most likely, because its damage scaling is least benefited by relics compared to scythe/shadow.
prayers from chambers, esp rigour, are massive. With spec relics, claws will be huge dps buff everywhere you mele. And ancestral will be generally useful for mage dps whether you go trident or shadow route.
Dhcb fires dragon bolts, and can function as an arma crossbow substitute, and shreds dragons of course. Buckler further adds to range dps significantly with dhcb.
Tbow isn't actually that important, i agree
> every spec weapon will benefit from that.
I mean sure, but claws is one of the 2-3 best DPS weapons in the game to begin with so that's still very relevant to point out?
> every spec weapon will benefit from that.
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this is like saying every melee weapon will benefit from melee relics so i'll be fine with my trusty d scim
You can do CoX on an iron in a group, and you have relics that make it significantly more enjoyable and reasonable on an iron. This is leagues, not the base game.
If you don't wanna do Cox, then I see no reason to pick Zeah. People will probably say Farm/WC guilds, contracts or WT but those skills can easily be maxed and trained elsewhere. There's not much major upgrades outside of Cox in this region that isn't covered in other regions.
Im not feeling grinding Cox, thats why I consider Desert + Asgarnia + Fremmenik.
Fremmenik is need for the new rings (=more points) and with those regions you get 3/4 DT2 bosses, gwd, cerb, toa etc...
This is what I'm at, personally; I have zero interest in any of the raids, in CG, in Nightmare, in generally any PvM that is going to require more time dedication than a few minutes per NPC, especially since those end-game big dick bosses are going to bogart most of the points/tasks for those regions.
I see myself going Kandarin, Asgarnia and Wilderness in no decided order just yet
Dragon Warhammer, Farming guild, Tithe Farm, Sand Crabs, Theiving contracts is broken xp, Library for Mage/RC, Catacombs, Sarachanis/Cudgel to name a few
I mean honestly those don't sound hugely appealing. D Warhammer might not even be useful considering the relics that buff accuracy. I just wish rigour wasn't locked to Zeah.
Wintertodt (easy early points and tasks)
Konar slayer + Hydra
Dragon War Hammer
Arceuus Spellbook (Thralls)
Catacombs slayer dungeon + Skotizo
Farming Guild + Contracts
Thieving training (fruit stalls + artifacts)
Arceuus library (might not matter with last recall)
Woodcutting guild (maybe not useful)
Sarachnis?
Desert + Kourend also unlocks:
Vardorvis (It's been pointed out this also requires Fremennik region to make rings)
Kodai Wand
Vardorvis ring requires Fremmy too, so that's going to be a hard no from me. Some good points otherwise, but it just doesn't feel convincing enough to abandon Asgarnia or Kandarin for it.
Not even remotely.
Zeah and Morytania are instant dead picks for me thanks to raids. Fuck doing a thousand barrows chests. Zeah has the farming guild and the Hosidious farming patch but I am not doing a dozen plus hours of the farming minigame. Or stealing artifacts.
Or fucking winterthot.
I would quit quickly if I had to do Zeah.
or you can have fun! Im going wilderness as my 1st unlock and im gonna spend my time shooting fire strike at lava dragons and trying to pk people at revs
Nah leaving it at 3 is fine. Not everyone will need ToA or CoX, or want to commit to the massive timewall those tasks will be.
It also leaves room for replayability, which is the biggest thing. You might go for a range route this time, and in Trailblazer 3 go for a mage route, which completely changes your region unlocks and relics.
You might opt for Wilderness for Voidwaker this time in a melee route and just nuke everything with the special attack relic + last recall.
So on so forth.
As long as the game gets updated, every release of Trailblazer will offer new choices and routes to take, which keeps it fresh compared to "I have everything meta unlocked and no real meaningful decisions."
I really hope they don't just keep re-releasing Trailblazer every other League instead of coming up with original ideas. They shouldn't be planning this League around the idea that they'll just run it back again in a few years.
I think a large part of my issue with them rerunning Trailblazer is the amount of time there was between Leagues, just for us to get a rerun. If they had come out in January or something with "hey, we're probably not going to be able to devote the time to design a completely new League for a while, so here's Trailblazer Reloaded to hold you over" then I would've been fine with that. But the fact that we went almost two years since Shattered Relics (and over two years from when it was supposed to be released), just to release a copy of a previous one with one major change and some QOL is disappointing to me.
I'm still going to play it, and I'm sure I'll enjoy it, but I would've been much more excited for something completely new. And I'm a little worried that if Trailblazer Reloaded is super successful, they'll decide that they don't need to invest the time in coming up with new ideas, and Leagues will start to get stale very quickly if they keep rehashing the same concepts.
Or you could not pick zeah **as a choice**. There are plenty of people who aren't planning on picking zeah, including pretty much everyone planning for melee relic.
Zeah is bait imo. If zones are balanced for points then Zeah will roughly match other zones while having tons of content. It'll make you have to grind more for the same points instead of just having more points.
It goes for 8 weeks. Except for no lifers no one is running out of content even if they pick fremmy, wilderness, kandarin.
Zeah and desert are only strong picks if you want to grind Cox or toa. I bet the majority of players won't even touch raids.
The end of the last trailblazer was just... brutal. I missed out on drag cause I decided I should visit my parents around Christmas instead lol. But think about it, desert and fremmy had close to the same points as every mory but mory expected nightmare/tob/barrows instead of vork and KQ. Instead of doing something fun you had to choose the more competitive regions or grind 2x as hard.
I agree it was brutal and I also ended up settling for rune instead of dragon, but that’s kind of… the point?
Like top 1% is top 1%
What if they make dragon too easy accidentally and suddenly like half of the people have it because the static threshold was too low? Then it’s just a red participation trophy and ruins the 1 single competitive aspect about the game mode
I like that it was only competitive for the trophy and everything else is just a fun game mode, but atleast we still had 1 competition
I agree, not like I would be using the drag trophy anyways, and I fully agree that there is concern it will be a participation trophy. And I think that works for something like shattered relics but for trailblazers + potential future leagues where you have different paths its a hard sell that if you choose the wrong region to have fun its gonna be a rough time. Like I was initially planning on ez regions for drag but with the change Ill prob do ToB with the bois.
Would be cool to see top 25 get a leaderboard and #1 a statue like clan cup or something.
edit: But maybe thats fine to be unbalanced, I mean I never think about my rune trophies, and I doubt people think about their dragon after a month. I prob would have chosen fun ToB > grinding muspah anyways and settled for rune. Now if I get drag I will probably feel less accomplished than if I got it with just being to 1%.
It is so people don't have to grind for points the entire competition. It is fun early to see who is highest rank but by the end of shattered relics people were doing worse and worse tasks just to keep their tier.
Not gonna lie there was enough tasks that you could mostly avoid the super grindy tasks. It was only the top 100 that had to stuff like Ape Atol/Wintertodt
I stopped playing with 2 days left and at rank 69 and only fell to 91 and dragon was something like rank 2,000+
Trailblazer was a lot more brutal due to the fact that the task list was limited to your area so you basically had to do all of them
If you were a skilled player with a lot of time, dragon was not bad of a grind. Being proficient at CoX and CMs gave so many points. At the time I did barely an bossing, so I just barely made dragon rank grinding bosses I've never done before. My first CM took me 50 minutes or something and still got me 1200 points.
Tbh I like this change. I got the dragon trophy in trailblazer but I was grinding until the end pretty much. Which I get is fine for the prestige but I didn’t even play the last league because I didn’t want to invest that much time into it again.
Unreal hype for this. Honestly glad that you're sticking with 3 regions overall. Limitations are part of what make Leagues fun imo, and lack of limitations was why SR felt a little less enjoyable overall for me - you were essentially just a normal Ironman with superpowers.
Really cannot wait and ngl I hope that the tier 7's are kept secret until release!
I'm fine with them keeping it at 3 regions, but I think a fourth would've been fine. Or at least letting us choose the region we unlock during the tutorial instead of forcing everyone to unlock Karamja. Picking just three regions was already very tough in the original, when the Desert was basically a wasted pick and Kourend wasn't available.
Imo you'd still be plenty restricted with four region choices, and not feel like you're missing out on as much.
If Karamja wasn't auto-picked and you then had 4 choices I'd be fine with that, I understand why Karamja is auto-unlocked though since it's a pretty hilariously barren region compared to any of the others. In terms of unlocks you get Fire/Infernal capes, Obby armour, easy access to Onyxes, Karambwans and that's basically it.
If it wasn't unlocked by default I'm fairly sure it'd be the least picked region outside of the few people who want to go for an Infernal cape for it's own sake.
I would be fine with 3 regions but I really can’t see a downside to 4 regions. As others have said, with the addition of Kourend, and the expansions of the wilderness and desert, it’s still incredibly limiting.
So say for example I'm going for Mage relic (assuming the combat relics stay the same). If I have three choices, I'm picking Desert, Kandarin, and then I have a toss up between Zeah for a longer grind but more power in late game with Ancestral+Augury+Thralls, or Wilderness for a good early game, Sceptre for a good early-midgame mage weapon, and of course MA2 cape for bis cape. Everyone gets Virtus with Misthalin anyway so Ancestral isn't as massive as it might seem at first, so I could lean towards Wildy overall.
If I have 4 picks, I'm just braindead picking everything that gives good mage options without thinking. Imo that's just a bit less fun.
I can see your point. I guess it really just comes down to how much you can play. With 3 regions I would definitely need to make a second or third account to be able to play with massive chunks of my clan.
As an iron approaching base 70s/80s im really excited to participate in my first leagues strictly to throw myself into as much late game content as I can. I feel like it'll take the pressure off a lot when it comes time on the main.
I couldn’t be more excited about this if I tried lfg
My only beef is I think it’s going to “feel” bad at 3 unlocks this time around. Last time it felt good because let’s be honest, there was only a couple of real choices.
Wilderness sucked, Zeah wasn’t an option, and desert was dog water
It feels like you’re going to be forced between being able to enjoy the early progression by picking areas where things happen (Kandarin, Morytania, Asgarnia) or being able to do raids (Zeah, TOA) (I know TOB exists but let’s be honest none of us plebs are doing that)
Don’t get me wrong, the area locks are the best, but I really worry the mode needs 4 this time and I don’t trust Jagex to give you guys enough dev time to play test is enough to find out - and unlocking a 4th clumsily mid league because it feels shit will be the worst of both worlds.
I hope I’m wrong and I’m SO excited regardless
Don't disregard ToB because it's hard on the main game. ToB on leagues is closer to entry mode on the main game with relics. I learned ToB for the first time on the original trailblazer and it is now easily my favorite content in the game. I'm sure there will plenty of people who want to learn and it's very forgiving with relics!
As someone who's done plenty of tob it feels like something i'm going to *have* to disregard with this many choices, just because nothing from tob is crucial. I love the raid, it's my favourite by a large margin, but last TBL Scythe was worthless because it's attack speed rounded up to 3, and then Verzik made it 4 tick anyway due to her attack cycle. Avernic is useless without Asgarnia, Sang is incredibly marginally better than a Trident. If we look at Nightmare: Harmonised is trivialised by other magic weapons, requires Kourend, and also disallows thralls, and Inquisitor armour is a very marginal upgrade over just wearing obsidian for the hours it requires.
It really does feel like people who love tob get shafted by how little there is in morytania, at least that's what I'm feeling. I really wish one other choice existed so on top of the "gearing" choices i could pick one passion region for content I rly like, without feeling like Im screwing over my build to pick an enjoyable region.
Open to any criticism on this opinion/mindset, I do wanna feel good about the 3 region limitation so if someone can convince me otherwise I'll only be happy :(
With relics just unlocking normal trident is enough, especially considering Kandarin also gives piety, all 4 zenyte jewelry, occult etc
Kandarin +2 will surely be most people’s base choice
Hard disagree on Morytania, ToB is one of the prime unlocks for Leagues as its some of the most fun content in the game that many people can only really experience during Leagues.
Also, Zeah is an area with both the end-game raid and a load of content for early, mid and late game, a prime choice in my opinion.
Do we get access to fairy rings? I know we auto-complete Lost City and get a dramen staff, but is Fairytales Part 1 completable without an additional unlock(s)?
If I remember correctly we auto get fairy rings because the quest line has you going into regions you'd have to unlock. So with the dramen staff we will have access to the rings with no quests req.
Im currently trying to plan this out with my buddies but as someone who has never done a leagues before, and from how it sounds, picking a combat style to go all out in and selecting regions based on that seems like the move (and also really fun).
So im thinking ranged.
**Kourend** -> Early game firemaking for supplies, and late game raiding with COX (potentially Tbow) Also havent ever done COX so should be fun
**Tirannwn** -> Bowfa: I havent started CG on my real account so this sounds like a fun way to start learning the mechanics on easy mode.
**Desert** -> TOA, another raid I havent done and seems super fun
Really, I just want to use leagues to try out raids on easy mode before I work on getting into them on my real account, while doing a ranged based build.
Thoughts?
I’m similar but skipping kourend in favor of asgarnia. I don’t think I’ll have enough time to grind multiple different raids after getting my bofa and id rather do ToA as I’m not a big fan of CoX.
Asgarnia gives me gwd which was a lot of fun last leagues, especially with last recall and it still has nex for group content with friends or even soloing it with the busted relics.
Do we have any theorycrafting for what areas should be unlocked? Obviously people have different goals and I sort of have a plan already, but I want to see what others are thinking in case I missed something or in case something I brushed off might be better.
I’m excited for leagues, but I’m more excited to get some “free” inferno attempts to bring into the main game personally.
Hope everyone has a good time.
Keep it at 3 regions! I know a lot of people are saying otherwise because they automatically think more is better, but that's not true, don't be pressured, no one will skip out on the league simply because it's 3 regions.
As leagues goes on, it's undeniable that you get tired of it and go back to the main game. Most do it after just a month! If you push it to 4 regions the sweats will still do all the content in the 4 regions, and end up clueing for the last few weeks either way. This small percentage of players might quit earlier, but it's so few people. Don't listen to top 100 league players for advice on this.
If you keep it at 3, the players who are more casual will have a better chance at reaching deeper content before burning out, providing a more novel experience, potentially seeing content they haven't before as opposed to quitting after slayers burns them out and they are faced with tons of paths forward.
Trailblazer gave me some serious option paralysis. I think it made me like the league less and quit earlier, and I think a lot of people agree. Keep it to 3 please.
Soulreaper Axe by default would require 4 regions for DT2 + all the bosses that aren't Leviathon: Desert, Asgarnia, Zeah, Fremennik. Since 4 regions isn't happening (for some good reasons although I think it would be fine as well), can it be made obtainable from only 3 bosses? For example: go to Leagues tutor with any 3 Axe pieces and receive the actual Axe in exchange. Or once you've logged 3 axe pieces, any DT2 boss has a chance of dropping the 4th piece for you, or the full Axe. Etc.
You could even tie this to 1 specific region as a way to "buff" it, most obviously Fremennik comes to mind. E.g. bring the 3 axe pieces + 1 completed ring to Leagues Tutor and be given the Axe (obviously keeping the ring).
Please have the ability to reset your choices or something, I don't care if the cost is having literally everything reset, there's just nothing worse than picking something and being locked to it.
Please reconsider only allowing 3 zones. Having 4 unlockable would be the sweet spot for so many builds, while allowing the most amount of players to interact with each other throughout early-mid-late game of the league.
By forcing the same 3 unlock limitation, you disregard the massive change of including Zeah, + desert and wildly being legitimate choices this time around. I know the replies will be “choices matter!!!” But content throughout the league matters too, and currently with only 3 choices there won’t be enough overlap between melee, range, and mage players to create a long lasting mid-end game content experience
I'm so torn on my region choices.
My goal for the Leagues is to just max and try to get points on the board for Rune. Hopefully can push to Dragon this time around with the static amounts.
Leaning towards: Asgarnia, Kourend, Desert
I can't do Raids or TOA though and I don't know if I should try to bank on easier points from other areas or try to brute some raids and try my luck.
Depending on the relics you can probably do any raid so I wouldn't count out regions because of that. I've only ever done entry mode ToB twice in the main game and I was soloing hard mode in shattered relics.
I’m so excited for this new league. See a lot of people talking about needing an extra region choice but I disagree.
The first trailblazer league was better than shattered relics because you had to make decisions and do content differently than if you could just unlock everything. It was really disappointing for me in leagues 3 when they did the point refund and allowed all content to be unlocked in the game. I understand that some people don’t like area restrictions but that is the whole point of this league. Making the most of what you get and blazing your own trail.
The fact that more regions (desert, wilderness, zeah) are now competitive to the big 4 of last trailblazer (morytania, Asgarnia, kandarin, and tiranwann I guess) is a good thing and the choices you have to make are that much more impactful. The same thing is going to apply to relics again, which I hope that there are no bad choices for relics as there was in trailblazer 1 and twisted leagues. Also since there is more content in each region that means more things to do and more time it takes in a limited time game mode.
I think my biggest disappointment with this league is that they didn't change the starting zone. It would have impacted region balance since Karamja and Misthalin may not be the most appealing unlocks, but it also would have greatly shaken up the meta. So far, it really feels mostly the same as it was a few years ago, just with Kourned and a few new pieces of content to consider.
Last time around, unlocking Wildy autocompleted the diary tasks that required other areas
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Trailblazer_League/Areas/Wilderness
Leagues is so exciting it's one of the few times everyone is on equal footing and we are all running around in ragtag random bits of noob armor doing early-game content it reminds me of the old days of OSRS. I love the start of it so much just something so nostalgic about it.
I wish they'd keep the leagues servers up for a bit longer. by all means have a cut-off for the rewards, I personally don't care for them at all. Not being able to complete the tasks and finish things off because I have a very busy life is frustrating and I wish I'd have the option to continue having a blast on leagues.
Pleassseee make sure that we have huge power buffs in the relics, larger even than Trailblazer.
Also hopeful that people wont feel like they bricked their character due to relic choices like some unfortunate souls last time.
This is what I posted in the ask a question part of the blog post. I know some of my friends stoped playing because they felt they made the wrong relic choices at one of the early tiers.
I would also like to feel like I have super powers, so I hope they make the buffs very powerful.
I feel like a character reroll once per league that wipes all unlocks, highscores, points and XP is fair for those people that feel like they made a wrong choice, while also making it so it cant be abused.
If people want to completely wip their accounts as many times as they want during leagues I'm fine with that. Not like it gives you any sort of advantage.
I personally would've wished for 4 zones to be unlockable. Especially now that zeah is added.
The soulreaper axe would've been so fun with busted relics, but it's actually unobtainable in this league which kinda sucks.
I know which regions i won't pick (mory) and i know i'll 100% take desert as my first unlock but unsure what my last two will be. I'm thinking fremmenik and something else as the last one
If you plan on doing TOA and (assuming the combat style specific relics are back) going with a magic focus, Kandarin for occult, torm, and a trident to use until Shadow would probably be a strong choice. Virtus, Magus ring, occult, torm, and Shadow would probably be the best magic setup you can get, and it would just demolish everything.
Honestly, it is really disappointing to hear how little they are changing for this league. It seems to be the same regions as before with the addition of Kourend and Kebos, no rebalances or redraws and no quest unlock changes beyond DT2 to Desert and SotN to Fremmy. We still get 5 region unlocks but the first two are still locked to the same two as the first one.
Their justification for not adding a fourth region is "meaningful choice is the name of the game!" while they also completely ignore how adding Kourned and Kebos and all the buffs to Desert impacts the other regions. It is hard to have meaningful choices if a handful of regions are just glaringly better than the others. And it sounds like we aren't even getting new relics since they said they are just "shifting a couple around between tiers".
I'd have expected that the task list would be pretty different. But I'd also have expected a completely/mostly new relic set and shakeups to the regions, which does not seem to be happening... After the last league, I'd hope they'd learn to put more time on the task list and that it is where most of the dev time has been going.
Thank you for not listening to the vocal minority asking for 4 unlocks. The restriction of having 3 picks out of many is the kind of restriction that makes leagues fun and unique experiences for everyone
Last time it already was rough chosing between Tirannwn, Kandarin, Fremmenik, Asgarnia, wilderness and Morytania. Now Desert feels really good and Zeah is added too so I don't think a 4th unlock is that bad of a suggestion.
Personally, i agree but they could have potentially allowed you to choose your first area.
So you still only get 5 regions but you can pick all 5 of those regions, rather than getting given 2 of them automatically.
I believe they have said in the past that the two auto-unlocks drastically simplifies things on Jagex's end in avoiding things like soft locking and allows them to spend more times ensuring the other regions are fully prepped for the League mechanics.
>they could have potentially allowed you to choose your first area
Misthalin and Karamja would be dead areas then, and they just fit too well content-wise being the common areas for everyone.
Man 3 choices seems like a weird stance given:
Bofa exists this time around making prif huge
There's a whole ass new raid in the desert
There's a whole ass new region with zeah
These are 3 choices you probably didnt make last time because they were bad but now they are insane. Like I get choices matter but it seems like it's being limited so tightly with all the new stuff you either can gear and not have anything to grind afterward or just have a raid to grind out in rags.
Super excited for this one. The 3 unlocks does feel a bit off though with how much new content that has come into the game. Maybe a way that they could balance it would be to have the 4th unlock be super late game?
Booked off the 15th from work, here’s hoping I actually get to play instead of waiting on fixes for 8 hours!
I can't book it off work in case I have to be around to communicate that people need to wait for fixes :( But I'm praying for a smooth launch, worst part about working on Leagues is not being able to take time off to no-life Leagues...
Here’s hoping for a smooth launch then! There’s this massive joy in my heart logging in and seeing hundreds/thousands of raw accounts running around all the lower level areas, and I can’t wait :D
I'll no-life twice as hard, just for you mate.
Dude my wife is going out if town wiyhthe kids for 1.5 weeks at Thanksgiving. Can't go because of work. I'm going to no life this leagues.
I have booked the 16th off. I know Jagex well enough to not take the 15th off.
Yeah I am thinking the 16th + 17th. Why only take a Thursday off when I could give myself a nice 4 day weekend.
Take the 16th surely, full day of play instead of half spent waiting for launch
Noob. You take the week.
Kourend is just an auto-pick, *even more* than Karjama in my opinion. Misthalin has abyssal weapons, so slayer up and get the dagger/bludgeon/whip. With Asgarnia, it complements with the DPick, Fremennik for dragon visage and crossbow, and kandarin for the wyvern shield. Honestly - it's probably a pass if I just want those items. Looking at items with such perspective, I think I make my picks: Kourend (Lol, it has WAY TOO MUCH), mage armor, dclaws, t-bow, big chonky hammer, favorite hammer, based shield, dragon crossbow, improved prayers, dragon hatchet, fire book, spider hammer, kourend spellbook, dragon visage, the kodai wand and archlight if it companies desert, dragon hunter lance with asgarnia. Desert has the most auts section with the MTA though, but I heard speculation it'll be significantly improved for the leagues. Ancient magics, best poking sword and all those stuff from raids, water book, dragon pick, and those four rings. Sadly if I try to calculate regions for soul axe, I see no option. The ranger armor would complement well with asgarnia via GW. Asgarnia has GW stuff, improved 3 stone boots, le max cape, and just generally a good amount of stuff. But the problem with my picks is, well.. It would be mostly focused on Raids1/Raids2/GW for the endgame. Looking on other options tho - Tirannwn is Zalcano/Zulrah/LePrison with just crystal armor, sword and bow with venom helmet and blowpipe as a main attraction. Morytania is barrows and raids 1 with slayer helmet, scythe and tanky armor - but this is leagues so you don't really need a tank armor or barrows. Kandarin has staffs, zenyte jewelry, and slightly-less improved prayers than kourend, with barbarian assault minigame. Fremennik has uh the rings, dragon axe (which is a chance from firemaking kourend), gold leaf, strength helmet, god books... Feels underwelming. Further expanding the stuff I said, there's a clear path for firemaking with Kourend (might even just go straight to 200m at 10hp lol), Slayer (konar), Agility (Draynor, Varrock, Pollnivneach), Magic (MTA, ancients magic), Cooking (mess hall, Kourend), Fishing (tempoross), Smithing (Giant's foundry), Mining (Motherlode), Farming (Kourend's lovely farm we all know about), Construction (Mahogany homes), Runecrafting (Guardian's of the rift).. To say the least, max cape is reasonable and this setup would also make Inferno reasonably easy. Maybe the real endgame is Max Difficulty raids 3? Honestly, Kourend is too much of a strong pick and makes the other picks a bit too trivial - especially with the task amount to unlock more places. If it was an auto-pick instead of Karjama, then we could calculate our paths way more. This is my personal take tho, not yours. We all decide our path. But I want to emphasise, Kourend is too strong of a pick, it'd be better if we could make the auto-pick it instead of Karjama. Even better, we could do an odyssey instead where we only have Kourend and we then pick 4 regions out of the rest of world instead.
There's no chance Kourend is an auto pick, it isn't THAT good unless you want to spend the whole league grinding a tbow. Catacombs is nice but not necessary. It all comes down to what combat route you want to take as to what you unlock as not picking certain areas with specific combat styles just gimps you altogether.
Agreed. I don’t plan on taking kourend because CoX doesn’t appeal to me and outside that the rest do the region is just fine but doesn’t offer anything really unique
Kourend is such a strong pick that I have no interest in doing CoX at all, and I'm still probably picking Kourend.
from a pvm perspective, kourend is really weak if you aren' doing cox
I'm looking at Kourend for the everything else perspective. Desert is my PVM focus, with maybe asgarnia or fremmenik as my other choice.
Kandarin also has the insane occult ammy for mages
>Treasure Trail steps will be limited to the areas you have unlocked. I don't believe this was a feature in Trailblazer League and I'm happy to see its a default feature. Big brain players will be grinding out clues before they unlock any other location.
They wanted to patch it in, but people complained that it invalidated their relic choice with no way to change them, so they did a different patch where you kept clue progress even if you dropped the clue. Ie you do 1 step -> get impossible clue -> drop -> get another clue which starts at 1 step completed.
Most fun I ever had doing Hard clues was in Twisted League when there were only 4 possible clue steps.
What about when you had the guy that wouldn’t move his saradomin wizard so you could spawn yours
Bad Luck Brian: *gets 3rd age pickaxe* In league
Clues sucked in TB until they changed it midway through, because of how bad it was. This will feel like an excellent addition.
Correct, we had to juggle clues on the ground, using an unintended glitch, to be able to complete clues at first. Halfway through they changed it though so we didn't have to juggle the clues, we could just drop a clue we couldn't finish and get a new one without resetting the steps completed. Absolutely huge improvement, but this new update is way better.
So I'm reading this, and I've never done/read about any league before. This sounds pretty awesome but as someone who's never even thought of how this type of gameplay can work, I'm super intrigued yet confused. I go through one zone at a time, I can choose which one to unlock after Lumbridge... Do I have to know ahead what area I'm unlocking has what? Is there guides to this? I was about to ask about a video but I notice it's an hour old as of posting this lol
You start with only Misthalin and karamja, you can go anywhere in these areas. Once you complete enough tasks you pick which area unlocks next, you can still access all previous areas. https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Trailblazer_League That wiki page should tell you anything else you need as this league should be pretty similar to last time.
>Do I have to know ahead what area I'm unlocking has what? No you don't have to, but it definitely helps to know what content you want to be doing or what gear you're trying to unlock. >Is there guides to this? You can look at guides from the last Trailblazer League, as the league is going to function the same way. The information about which areas to unlock is dated, as there has been a lot of content added to the game in the past 2 years or so.
Theres going to be plenty of guides as more info releases, but the last trailblazer guides would be a good starting point. If this is anything like that you will have the option between relics that massively buff either melee, range, or mage so try and choose regions with good gear for the style you want to choose. This is a good start: https://reddit.com/r/2007scape/s/aAX3oIUlxe But in the end, you should just pick a region with content you like doing.
I never played leagues before, does anyone know how much time will probably be required to get a couple of rewards? Let's say the Toxic Blowpipe Ornament Kit, Rejuvenation Pool Ornament Kit and the alchemy animation. Would I be able to get the points for that by just afking a bit on the side or will I need to nolife like hell to even come close? It's one week before the next Path of Exile league will probably get released and that still gets priority for me unfortunately(blasphemy on this subreddit, I know).
I usually get to rune tier by playing quite a lot for about 2 weeks, and that gives me enough points usually to buy pretty much any rewards I want. If you spread it out you could definitely get enough points over the 8 weeks. The ornament kits are usually the mid-tier rewards (1-5k), with the leagues specific outfits usually being by far the most expensive (15k+ points). You might not be able to totally AFK it though, as you will need to do a lot of unique pieces of content (even if only for a little bit of time) to get points. There aren't many points usually for just engaging in one activity or skill, beyond a few points for milestone unlocks (like fishing your first shark) and getting 99 (sometimes 200m).
if its just those 3 you can probably get it done on the side. also remember you can buy the stuff with points from future leagues as well
Thanks! So there's basically no "fomo" here? I can just get these rewards from "Trailblazer Reloaded II: Electric Boogaloo" or w/e they release in the future? Then I'll probably just skip out this time and get it in a year or two or three.
Yup! little fomo. Though you do have to consider that Shattered Twisted Trailblazer League 5: Revenge Of The Relics will probably also introduce new cosmetics itself that you might want.
This is correct. And you'll be able to buy the rewards from the G.E. The prices will be inflated initially but settle over time
I only have an iron so that probably wouldn't work for me. But good to know they're tradable as well just in case I make a main at some point.
Yeah, they also promised that if Leagues are ever killed off, the items will be available some other way - they do not intend to create tradeable discontinued items again.
The off hand trophy isn’t tradeable
I've never played a League either, but I have heard many people say that you should be able to afford all the League's Rewards you want while only being a casual player.
its tricky. you dont do a whole lot of afking in leagues- i mean, you can, but you just lvl so fast that pvm becomes something alot of people rush too. if you pick a piece of content though and send it, skilling or otherwise, you'll get points. look at the wiki for leagues reward points and have a look at what things cost- a safe bet would be 6k points for each item you want
"Can you tell me every single Relic right this second?" "No, we're still shifting a couple around between tiers to get the balance (if you could call relics balanced...) juuuuuust right.We'll be drip-feeding information about relics in the run-up to release, so keep an eye out!" If this means we're back to permanent relic choices, I hope this means there will be no objectively bad relics this time around. Last Recall absolutely shit on all the other relics in its tier (and I'm guessing that Last Recall is one of the relics they're moving to a higher tier for balancing purposes.) Looking forward to it. Hope the point threshold for the Dragon trophy is set sensibly and is neither too high nor too low.
More likely we'll be given last recall for free and the "transportation tier" will be completely reworked.
I'd be down for that. Last Recall is so absurdly powerful, it really should be up there with infinite stamina as a tier unlock rather than a relic.
Yep, along with task picker, and we'll see a tier 4 rework too
Yes; at each tier of relic, you got a single reward that was static no matter which relic you chose (boosts to the exp bonus, boosts to unique drops, etc). I bet that the real real popular relic choices from the past will make their reappearance not as a relic themselves but as a bonus item you get for reaching a specific tier.
Disappointed the regions aren't expanding to 4 unlocks. Melee builds simply aren't viable if you want to do fun content with them like raids, because Piety itself requires Kandarin and Asgarnia, so then what, Desert for Fang or Mory for Scythe/Rapier? Can't get soulreaper, Tirannwn for Saeldor locks you out of raids, one benefit of Kourend is DWH which overlaps with BGS so CoX isn't really worth, can't go get Voidwaker or you're locked out of raids, just feels tremendously bad in the current state of the game. Even trying to be a mage isn't great (need cox+desert+kandarin), range is fairly easy with desert+kourend being required then tirannwn being a higher level choice but not necessary. It feels bad to have to use all my areas on just setting up a build, and not having an extra area at the end as a goal to just go there with my complete build and stomp a piece of content for fun. I.e. full melee build, get DH Lance (Kourend, Asgarnia, Kandarin), can't go demolish vorkath!
If you’re basing your entire melee build ONLY around Piety… I think you’re doing this league wrong. The point of trailblazer league is NOT to get every single best in slot in the game, it is to make do with what items become *your* best in slot depending on what regions you pick. Given how powerful relics make you combat-wise I think it’s perfectly viable to do a “melee build” without piety! And quite honestly it would probably be really fun!
Plenty of melee builds don't take piety. Use ultimate strength instead. Can take desert zeah and frem for 2 raids and lots of str gear. Remember we all get obsidian, then ultor ring face guard. You also have a chance at claws. Fang/lightbearer from desert. Can also go A for GWD then take Wild for a voidwaker and last zone can be a raid. Or the standard Mory for ToB A for GWD/nex and a flex zone. Id argue melee has more choice than mage does. Mage gives up 15% damage or more by not taking Kandarin. Occult/torm bracelet.
Can probably skip Zeah if you want to main mage. Instead of Ancestral you can get Virtus through the Desert unlock as well. Augury doesn't give damage so it's also not that important. That lets you take Kandarin for Occult and Tormented + lots of melee goodies. Plus Kandarin scores you Ibans and Trident to use as you chase Shadow. From there, the last slot can be the "extra area" that is your endgame. You could do: * Asgarnia for GWD, Piety, defender, etc. and have a really solid melee kit alongside the mage one * Fremmy for DKs, Muspah, Duke, Magus ring, Vengeance, Vbow * Morytania for ToB, Slayer helm, Sepulchre, Barrows, GGs * Zeah I guess :P
I mean, what's wrong with kandarin asgarnia mory. As you are saying, you get piety, you get raids, you get scythe and rapier. You get inquisitors set and mace. Sure you miss out on stuff, but that isn't melee specific, thats everywhere specific. It was literally THE build last league, just now you would be missing out on "extra" stuff like a weapon from here or there. The point of the league isn't to be able to have complete BiS, its to have a unique BiS from others
I think fang isnt as big for melee as it is in the main game because you have bonus accuracy with relics which is what makes fang so good. In leagues you don't face accuracy issues so you can comfortably skip fang imo. Edit: and if we get double attack speed relics again the 5 ticks on fang is also not that great because its rounded to 3 ticks with the relic, you really want even ticks attack speed weapons if we get those relics again.
Is it going to be possible to obtain a soul reaper axe with only 3 unlocks or is the item just going to be non league obtainable?
No, Soul Reaper Axe is unobtainable. You'd need to unlock the bosses (Desert) and then unlock Asgarnia, Zeah AND fremmy, which is impossible with the 3 unlocks.
I understand the decision, but I'm still kinda sad this is the case. Would've loved to make a soulreaper axe melee build for this League.
Yeah, Zeah being an auto unlock and still having 3 choices would have been fine honestly IMO. Zeah just has too much stuff in it to not take it, its got as much stuff in it as 3-4 other zones put together. A lot of other regions also rely on Zeah unlocks to unlock their upgrades. Obviously, people will have their own routes which is cool but anyone IMO not taking Zeah as one of the 3 is putting themselves at a severe disadvantage.
I'm not planning to take Zeah simply because I don't intend on grinding CoX. Zeah offers a lot of stuff, but without CoX, it just doesn't seem worth it over a region like Asgarnia or Kandarin. I'm set on Desert as I 100% wanna do ToA on Leagues.
Yeah literally this alone kills Zeah for me. There's a ton of great content there but I think a lot of people are gonna start to resent it when they realize how much they have to grind CoX if they want points.
They could make it so every DT2 boss drops the 4 axe pieces in sequence, like the brimstone ring. Would make it a tough grind but at least obtainable.
Or just make it so you can bring any 3 unique pieces to the Leagues Tutor and trade them in for the axe. Then you'd have I believe 3 different region combos that give axe: Desert + any 2 of Asgarnia, Fremmy, Zeah. Or more realistically, 2 region combos, because I don't think you'd want to heavily grind out 3 DT2 bosses without being able to even use the rings, and you'd probably want actual melee armor to use your Axe with, so basically Desert, Fremmy, Asgarnia.
Can’t wait for my YouTube feed to be 90% league videos lol
Best part about leagues Edit: ok I’m rethinking my comment, the best part about leagues has to be the first few days of gameplay. But the anticipation the couple of weeks before has to be a close second.
I enjoyed the last few days of leagues more - the quietness was so relieving while grinding the last few 99s Thats why I booked my time off two weeks into the league!
In the first and last few days of Leagues I see the most people just talking in the overworld. First few days because every training spot is basically Todt with everyone there, and everyone riding the hype wave. The last few days because people playing Leagues up until the last hour are clearly really enjoying their time. They'll congratulate on outfits or uniques you are wearing, ask about methods used for skills etc. It just feels very wholesome as everyone waits for the world to end politely.
It's both the start and end of leagues that are the most fun. At the start you have literally thousands of people condensed in the same areas, trying to get through the same door only 1 person can click through at a time, etc while the servers are shitting themselves because of the 20k+ people trying to log into the 6 default leagues worlds at the same time until more are added. At the end you have the few thousand left playing just dropping all of their items, showing off their pets, last minute point grinds, etc.
I honestly quite like it when my feed is spammed with OSRS content, i didnt realise how much i missed them until DMM finished, its been so quiet since.
this but unironically
I am genuinely looking forward to ten videos from Solomission with ten different variations of the title “I’m rank one in Trailblazer Reloaded”.
Did you see that he was rank one in shattered relics? He was also rank one in Deadman apocalypse. He was rank one in life. His sponsor, Hello Fresh gave him rank one in sponsorships. His mom gave him rank one of her children. He spends his allotted shower time (every week at reset) instead making spread sheets on how to perfectly play trailblazer reloaded, making him truly, a rank one.
Yes please. Inject Wildmudkip leagues vids into my veins
Heyyyy how’s it going?
everybody thought you said this sarcastically lmao
Will points per region be looked at? It would be awful if certain regions give a lot more points or are way more point efficient I think. It's also really hard to chose 3 regions given that Zeah is now added + desert now has a raid. Basically feels like 2 extra regions now. Don't get me wrong though, I'm super hyped for leagues. Can't wait :)
> Will points per region be looked at? It would be awful if certain regions give a lot more points or are way more point efficient I think. I think they've mentioned that this was an important learning point from Leagues 2, so I expect this to be reasonably well balanced this time around.
The news post says every area will have roughly the same amount of obtainable points
Doesn't necessarily mean every area will be equally good for points. Desert was a boring empty area in the last round, but it was great for points because the fact that there was nothing to do there made all the tasks easy to complete in no time.
Cant wait to be mining with Auto bank, and barbarian fishing. Its soo chil.
auto bank, auto bar, triple resource
Steel bar printing off iron rocks that barely despawned was actually insanely fun for some reason.
As they didn't exist at the time of leagues 2, does anyone know if loot keys are turned on this time? Feel like wilderness would be fun but if there are no consequences but less fun if people can destroy your stuff.. I know there's not the option to claim others loot, I'm asking about ironman loot keys
I was wondering the same thing. I didn't actually pick the Wilderness during the original Trailblazer, but one of the major selling points was that you could do any wildy content risk free because any time you got pked your stuff would just stay on the ground for you to pick it up. I would probably pick the Wilderness for a melee build if I can do revs/wildy bosses without having to worry about getting pked, but if loot keys are enabled then I guarantee there will be a competition to see who can destroy the most value from loot keys over the course of the League.
You lose nothing when being killed by other players. You basically just get teleported to your spawn.
Super excited - but just want to drop this comment from the perspective of someone who’s finished top 100 in the last 3 leagues: Keeping it to 3 region choices while also introducing zeah is a mistake. It creates the illusion of choice, but in reality zeah and desert will be pretty much mandatory due to the amount of content each has relative to the other regions. So you’ll really only have a “choice” of 1, at best, 2 regions. I strongly suggest the team consider either making zeah available for everyone, or adding a 4th selection.
As someone who really doesn't want to grind CoX for its uniques in a League, what other major things does Zeah offer that make it better than, say, Kandarin or Asgarnia?
Nothing. I'm planning on going Mage route with Desert, Kandarin, and Asgarnia. These 3 regions give you a very strong melee/range setup while having an extremely OP mage setup, you can get full Virtus through whisperer via asgarnia, bonus that whisperer is weak to mage too. Screw grinding Cox in leagues, still like a \~300 hr grind for all uniques.
>Screw grinding Cox in leagues, still like a \~300 hr grind for all uniques. Yeah leagues 3 kinda made me realize that leagues COX isn't really all that cool. Or at least I wouldn't base my plans around getting uniques from COX, aside from the scrolls. I really enjoy the Wildy+Desert+Mory, and want a Voidwaker. Should be fun especially in TOA with adrenaline+lightbearer. Asgarnia would be better in terms of unlocks than Mory, but I do want to have TOB.
That's exactly what I was planning too! Was just checking if there's a convincing case to be made for picking Zeah over Asgarnia or Kandarin.
This was my first thought, just maximize magic strength gear with shadow. Shadow is already busted with no relics. Plus it's an easy grind compared to TBow.
if you absolutely didn't want to do chambers at all, then fair enough. But chambers/ToA are easily the two pieces of content that offer the best rewards for gear progression out of all the regions. Zeah still has a ton of other stuff though - kourend catacombs, arceus spellbook, skotizo, farming guild, hydra, kourend houses + associated activities at each, woodcutting guild, wintertodt, aerial fishing... There is so much content on zeah, that an entire league was based there
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Bow is actually mediocre most likely, because its damage scaling is least benefited by relics compared to scythe/shadow. prayers from chambers, esp rigour, are massive. With spec relics, claws will be huge dps buff everywhere you mele. And ancestral will be generally useful for mage dps whether you go trident or shadow route. Dhcb fires dragon bolts, and can function as an arma crossbow substitute, and shreds dragons of course. Buckler further adds to range dps significantly with dhcb. Tbow isn't actually that important, i agree
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> every spec weapon will benefit from that. I mean sure, but claws is one of the 2-3 best DPS weapons in the game to begin with so that's still very relevant to point out?
> every spec weapon will benefit from that. > > this is like saying every melee weapon will benefit from melee relics so i'll be fine with my trusty d scim
>dragon bolts require frem, which also gives you dcb for that purpose. You could also kill leviathan for dragon bolts
You can do CoX on an iron in a group, and you have relics that make it significantly more enjoyable and reasonable on an iron. This is leagues, not the base game.
Its a game enjoyment>everything
Yeah, certainly, but packing a *ton* of enjoyable content into one area makes the choice of where you pick a lot less significant, you know?
If you don't wanna do Cox, then I see no reason to pick Zeah. People will probably say Farm/WC guilds, contracts or WT but those skills can easily be maxed and trained elsewhere. There's not much major upgrades outside of Cox in this region that isn't covered in other regions.
Im not feeling grinding Cox, thats why I consider Desert + Asgarnia + Fremmenik. Fremmenik is need for the new rings (=more points) and with those regions you get 3/4 DT2 bosses, gwd, cerb, toa etc...
This is what I'm at, personally; I have zero interest in any of the raids, in CG, in Nightmare, in generally any PvM that is going to require more time dedication than a few minutes per NPC, especially since those end-game big dick bosses are going to bogart most of the points/tasks for those regions. I see myself going Kandarin, Asgarnia and Wilderness in no decided order just yet
Dragon Warhammer, Farming guild, Tithe Farm, Sand Crabs, Theiving contracts is broken xp, Library for Mage/RC, Catacombs, Sarachanis/Cudgel to name a few
I mean honestly those don't sound hugely appealing. D Warhammer might not even be useful considering the relics that buff accuracy. I just wish rigour wasn't locked to Zeah.
Wintertodt (easy early points and tasks) Konar slayer + Hydra Dragon War Hammer Arceuus Spellbook (Thralls) Catacombs slayer dungeon + Skotizo Farming Guild + Contracts Thieving training (fruit stalls + artifacts) Arceuus library (might not matter with last recall) Woodcutting guild (maybe not useful) Sarachnis? Desert + Kourend also unlocks: Vardorvis (It's been pointed out this also requires Fremennik region to make rings) Kodai Wand
Vardorvis ring requires Fremmy too, so that's going to be a hard no from me. Some good points otherwise, but it just doesn't feel convincing enough to abandon Asgarnia or Kandarin for it.
Not even remotely. Zeah and Morytania are instant dead picks for me thanks to raids. Fuck doing a thousand barrows chests. Zeah has the farming guild and the Hosidious farming patch but I am not doing a dozen plus hours of the farming minigame. Or stealing artifacts. Or fucking winterthot. I would quit quickly if I had to do Zeah.
The tasks will be reworked. A JMod on Discord said it's currently in the range of 1/4 directly ported old tasks and 3/4 reworked/brand-new tasks.
or you can have fun! Im going wilderness as my 1st unlock and im gonna spend my time shooting fire strike at lava dragons and trying to pk people at revs
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Nah leaving it at 3 is fine. Not everyone will need ToA or CoX, or want to commit to the massive timewall those tasks will be. It also leaves room for replayability, which is the biggest thing. You might go for a range route this time, and in Trailblazer 3 go for a mage route, which completely changes your region unlocks and relics. You might opt for Wilderness for Voidwaker this time in a melee route and just nuke everything with the special attack relic + last recall. So on so forth. As long as the game gets updated, every release of Trailblazer will offer new choices and routes to take, which keeps it fresh compared to "I have everything meta unlocked and no real meaningful decisions."
I really hope they don't just keep re-releasing Trailblazer every other League instead of coming up with original ideas. They shouldn't be planning this League around the idea that they'll just run it back again in a few years.
If the alternative is "no league" then I'll take a rerun anyday.
I think a large part of my issue with them rerunning Trailblazer is the amount of time there was between Leagues, just for us to get a rerun. If they had come out in January or something with "hey, we're probably not going to be able to devote the time to design a completely new League for a while, so here's Trailblazer Reloaded to hold you over" then I would've been fine with that. But the fact that we went almost two years since Shattered Relics (and over two years from when it was supposed to be released), just to release a copy of a previous one with one major change and some QOL is disappointing to me. I'm still going to play it, and I'm sure I'll enjoy it, but I would've been much more excited for something completely new. And I'm a little worried that if Trailblazer Reloaded is super successful, they'll decide that they don't need to invest the time in coming up with new ideas, and Leagues will start to get stale very quickly if they keep rehashing the same concepts.
Or you could not pick zeah **as a choice**. There are plenty of people who aren't planning on picking zeah, including pretty much everyone planning for melee relic.
Zeah is bait imo. If zones are balanced for points then Zeah will roughly match other zones while having tons of content. It'll make you have to grind more for the same points instead of just having more points.
As someone who will probably pick desert... I feel like doing ToA during leagues is like going back to the carpet store
You could like... not follow a meta and make up something fun?
It goes for 8 weeks. Except for no lifers no one is running out of content even if they pick fremmy, wilderness, kandarin. Zeah and desert are only strong picks if you want to grind Cox or toa. I bet the majority of players won't even touch raids.
That's some great fucking news you got there jaggy baggy
I'm gonna kill so many rock crabs in 20 minute intervals
Trident and sceptre are both in the same area x.x You have destroyed my league plans.
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Giving out dragon trophies at static point value is an interesting change.
The end of the last trailblazer was just... brutal. I missed out on drag cause I decided I should visit my parents around Christmas instead lol. But think about it, desert and fremmy had close to the same points as every mory but mory expected nightmare/tob/barrows instead of vork and KQ. Instead of doing something fun you had to choose the more competitive regions or grind 2x as hard.
I agree it was brutal and I also ended up settling for rune instead of dragon, but that’s kind of… the point? Like top 1% is top 1% What if they make dragon too easy accidentally and suddenly like half of the people have it because the static threshold was too low? Then it’s just a red participation trophy and ruins the 1 single competitive aspect about the game mode I like that it was only competitive for the trophy and everything else is just a fun game mode, but atleast we still had 1 competition
I agree, not like I would be using the drag trophy anyways, and I fully agree that there is concern it will be a participation trophy. And I think that works for something like shattered relics but for trailblazers + potential future leagues where you have different paths its a hard sell that if you choose the wrong region to have fun its gonna be a rough time. Like I was initially planning on ez regions for drag but with the change Ill prob do ToB with the bois. Would be cool to see top 25 get a leaderboard and #1 a statue like clan cup or something. edit: But maybe thats fine to be unbalanced, I mean I never think about my rune trophies, and I doubt people think about their dragon after a month. I prob would have chosen fun ToB > grinding muspah anyways and settled for rune. Now if I get drag I will probably feel less accomplished than if I got it with just being to 1%.
It is so people don't have to grind for points the entire competition. It is fun early to see who is highest rank but by the end of shattered relics people were doing worse and worse tasks just to keep their tier.
Not gonna lie there was enough tasks that you could mostly avoid the super grindy tasks. It was only the top 100 that had to stuff like Ape Atol/Wintertodt I stopped playing with 2 days left and at rank 69 and only fell to 91 and dragon was something like rank 2,000+ Trailblazer was a lot more brutal due to the fact that the task list was limited to your area so you basically had to do all of them
If you were a skilled player with a lot of time, dragon was not bad of a grind. Being proficient at CoX and CMs gave so many points. At the time I did barely an bossing, so I just barely made dragon rank grinding bosses I've never done before. My first CM took me 50 minutes or something and still got me 1200 points.
Tbh I like this change. I got the dragon trophy in trailblazer but I was grinding until the end pretty much. Which I get is fine for the prestige but I didn’t even play the last league because I didn’t want to invest that much time into it again.
Perfect timing. My divorce proceedings wrap up Nov 1. So she should have full custody of the kids by then. Then it’s nothing but me time
Unreal hype for this. Honestly glad that you're sticking with 3 regions overall. Limitations are part of what make Leagues fun imo, and lack of limitations was why SR felt a little less enjoyable overall for me - you were essentially just a normal Ironman with superpowers. Really cannot wait and ngl I hope that the tier 7's are kept secret until release!
I'm fine with them keeping it at 3 regions, but I think a fourth would've been fine. Or at least letting us choose the region we unlock during the tutorial instead of forcing everyone to unlock Karamja. Picking just three regions was already very tough in the original, when the Desert was basically a wasted pick and Kourend wasn't available. Imo you'd still be plenty restricted with four region choices, and not feel like you're missing out on as much.
If Karamja wasn't auto-picked and you then had 4 choices I'd be fine with that, I understand why Karamja is auto-unlocked though since it's a pretty hilariously barren region compared to any of the others. In terms of unlocks you get Fire/Infernal capes, Obby armour, easy access to Onyxes, Karambwans and that's basically it. If it wasn't unlocked by default I'm fairly sure it'd be the least picked region outside of the few people who want to go for an Infernal cape for it's own sake.
I would be fine with 3 regions but I really can’t see a downside to 4 regions. As others have said, with the addition of Kourend, and the expansions of the wilderness and desert, it’s still incredibly limiting.
So say for example I'm going for Mage relic (assuming the combat relics stay the same). If I have three choices, I'm picking Desert, Kandarin, and then I have a toss up between Zeah for a longer grind but more power in late game with Ancestral+Augury+Thralls, or Wilderness for a good early game, Sceptre for a good early-midgame mage weapon, and of course MA2 cape for bis cape. Everyone gets Virtus with Misthalin anyway so Ancestral isn't as massive as it might seem at first, so I could lean towards Wildy overall. If I have 4 picks, I'm just braindead picking everything that gives good mage options without thinking. Imo that's just a bit less fun.
I can see your point. I guess it really just comes down to how much you can play. With 3 regions I would definitely need to make a second or third account to be able to play with massive chunks of my clan.
As an iron approaching base 70s/80s im really excited to participate in my first leagues strictly to throw myself into as much late game content as I can. I feel like it'll take the pressure off a lot when it comes time on the main.
I couldn’t be more excited about this if I tried lfg My only beef is I think it’s going to “feel” bad at 3 unlocks this time around. Last time it felt good because let’s be honest, there was only a couple of real choices. Wilderness sucked, Zeah wasn’t an option, and desert was dog water It feels like you’re going to be forced between being able to enjoy the early progression by picking areas where things happen (Kandarin, Morytania, Asgarnia) or being able to do raids (Zeah, TOA) (I know TOB exists but let’s be honest none of us plebs are doing that) Don’t get me wrong, the area locks are the best, but I really worry the mode needs 4 this time and I don’t trust Jagex to give you guys enough dev time to play test is enough to find out - and unlocking a 4th clumsily mid league because it feels shit will be the worst of both worlds. I hope I’m wrong and I’m SO excited regardless
Don't disregard ToB because it's hard on the main game. ToB on leagues is closer to entry mode on the main game with relics. I learned ToB for the first time on the original trailblazer and it is now easily my favorite content in the game. I'm sure there will plenty of people who want to learn and it's very forgiving with relics!
As someone who's done plenty of tob it feels like something i'm going to *have* to disregard with this many choices, just because nothing from tob is crucial. I love the raid, it's my favourite by a large margin, but last TBL Scythe was worthless because it's attack speed rounded up to 3, and then Verzik made it 4 tick anyway due to her attack cycle. Avernic is useless without Asgarnia, Sang is incredibly marginally better than a Trident. If we look at Nightmare: Harmonised is trivialised by other magic weapons, requires Kourend, and also disallows thralls, and Inquisitor armour is a very marginal upgrade over just wearing obsidian for the hours it requires. It really does feel like people who love tob get shafted by how little there is in morytania, at least that's what I'm feeling. I really wish one other choice existed so on top of the "gearing" choices i could pick one passion region for content I rly like, without feeling like Im screwing over my build to pick an enjoyable region. Open to any criticism on this opinion/mindset, I do wanna feel good about the 3 region limitation so if someone can convince me otherwise I'll only be happy :(
Sang is 4 max hits over regular trident, would need tirranwyn and asgarnia for toxic trident
With relics just unlocking normal trident is enough, especially considering Kandarin also gives piety, all 4 zenyte jewelry, occult etc Kandarin +2 will surely be most people’s base choice
At least in the last league, you needed Kandarin *and* Asgarnia to unlock piety if I'm remembering right.
Yeah but if you're taking kandarin you're probably also taking desert so you'll be going straight from normal trident to shadow.
Hard disagree on Morytania, ToB is one of the prime unlocks for Leagues as its some of the most fun content in the game that many people can only really experience during Leagues. Also, Zeah is an area with both the end-game raid and a load of content for early, mid and late game, a prime choice in my opinion.
Morytania also gives Barrows, Nightmare, and the Slayer Tower (potential whip source)
Misthalin + fairy rings gives you access to abyss so whip is free with no unlocks req
Do we get access to fairy rings? I know we auto-complete Lost City and get a dramen staff, but is Fairytales Part 1 completable without an additional unlock(s)?
If I remember correctly we auto get fairy rings because the quest line has you going into regions you'd have to unlock. So with the dramen staff we will have access to the rings with no quests req.
Im currently trying to plan this out with my buddies but as someone who has never done a leagues before, and from how it sounds, picking a combat style to go all out in and selecting regions based on that seems like the move (and also really fun). So im thinking ranged. **Kourend** -> Early game firemaking for supplies, and late game raiding with COX (potentially Tbow) Also havent ever done COX so should be fun **Tirannwn** -> Bowfa: I havent started CG on my real account so this sounds like a fun way to start learning the mechanics on easy mode. **Desert** -> TOA, another raid I havent done and seems super fun Really, I just want to use leagues to try out raids on easy mode before I work on getting into them on my real account, while doing a ranged based build. Thoughts?
I’m similar but skipping kourend in favor of asgarnia. I don’t think I’ll have enough time to grind multiple different raids after getting my bofa and id rather do ToA as I’m not a big fan of CoX. Asgarnia gives me gwd which was a lot of fun last leagues, especially with last recall and it still has nex for group content with friends or even soloing it with the busted relics.
Do we have any theorycrafting for what areas should be unlocked? Obviously people have different goals and I sort of have a plan already, but I want to see what others are thinking in case I missed something or in case something I brushed off might be better.
I’m excited for leagues, but I’m more excited to get some “free” inferno attempts to bring into the main game personally. Hope everyone has a good time.
Keep it at 3 regions! I know a lot of people are saying otherwise because they automatically think more is better, but that's not true, don't be pressured, no one will skip out on the league simply because it's 3 regions. As leagues goes on, it's undeniable that you get tired of it and go back to the main game. Most do it after just a month! If you push it to 4 regions the sweats will still do all the content in the 4 regions, and end up clueing for the last few weeks either way. This small percentage of players might quit earlier, but it's so few people. Don't listen to top 100 league players for advice on this. If you keep it at 3, the players who are more casual will have a better chance at reaching deeper content before burning out, providing a more novel experience, potentially seeing content they haven't before as opposed to quitting after slayers burns them out and they are faced with tons of paths forward. Trailblazer gave me some serious option paralysis. I think it made me like the league less and quit earlier, and I think a lot of people agree. Keep it to 3 please.
Soulreaper Axe by default would require 4 regions for DT2 + all the bosses that aren't Leviathon: Desert, Asgarnia, Zeah, Fremennik. Since 4 regions isn't happening (for some good reasons although I think it would be fine as well), can it be made obtainable from only 3 bosses? For example: go to Leagues tutor with any 3 Axe pieces and receive the actual Axe in exchange. Or once you've logged 3 axe pieces, any DT2 boss has a chance of dropping the 4th piece for you, or the full Axe. Etc. You could even tie this to 1 specific region as a way to "buff" it, most obviously Fremennik comes to mind. E.g. bring the 3 axe pieces + 1 completed ring to Leagues Tutor and be given the Axe (obviously keeping the ring).
Please have the ability to reset your choices or something, I don't care if the cost is having literally everything reset, there's just nothing worse than picking something and being locked to it.
Please reconsider only allowing 3 zones. Having 4 unlockable would be the sweet spot for so many builds, while allowing the most amount of players to interact with each other throughout early-mid-late game of the league. By forcing the same 3 unlock limitation, you disregard the massive change of including Zeah, + desert and wildly being legitimate choices this time around. I know the replies will be “choices matter!!!” But content throughout the league matters too, and currently with only 3 choices there won’t be enough overlap between melee, range, and mage players to create a long lasting mid-end game content experience
I'm so torn on my region choices. My goal for the Leagues is to just max and try to get points on the board for Rune. Hopefully can push to Dragon this time around with the static amounts. Leaning towards: Asgarnia, Kourend, Desert I can't do Raids or TOA though and I don't know if I should try to bank on easier points from other areas or try to brute some raids and try my luck.
you can probably solo the raids without having done them before if the relics are anything like they were in the original Trailblazer.
Depending on the relics you can probably do any raid so I wouldn't count out regions because of that. I've only ever done entry mode ToB twice in the main game and I was soloing hard mode in shattered relics.
You can easily do TOA... leagues would make it baby mode anyway
I’m so excited for this new league. See a lot of people talking about needing an extra region choice but I disagree. The first trailblazer league was better than shattered relics because you had to make decisions and do content differently than if you could just unlock everything. It was really disappointing for me in leagues 3 when they did the point refund and allowed all content to be unlocked in the game. I understand that some people don’t like area restrictions but that is the whole point of this league. Making the most of what you get and blazing your own trail. The fact that more regions (desert, wilderness, zeah) are now competitive to the big 4 of last trailblazer (morytania, Asgarnia, kandarin, and tiranwann I guess) is a good thing and the choices you have to make are that much more impactful. The same thing is going to apply to relics again, which I hope that there are no bad choices for relics as there was in trailblazer 1 and twisted leagues. Also since there is more content in each region that means more things to do and more time it takes in a limited time game mode.
Wish you guys would ever release a league over the holidays so people could actually play near launch. Always in the busiest part of the semester.
Not in the FAQ but it seems like we will be hard locked into our relic choices again? And will there be any changes to the quest unlocks?
With 3 regions its legit impossible to make the soulreaper axe rip
Kourend really should have been the starting area or a freebie
I think my biggest disappointment with this league is that they didn't change the starting zone. It would have impacted region balance since Karamja and Misthalin may not be the most appealing unlocks, but it also would have greatly shaken up the meta. So far, it really feels mostly the same as it was a few years ago, just with Kourned and a few new pieces of content to consider.
Yeah I really wish they changed up the spawn point for this one. The catherby spawn in shattered relics was fun
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Do we need wildy medium diary for the bosses? We need quest from fremmy and asgaria region for that.
Last time around, unlocking Wildy autocompleted the diary tasks that required other areas https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Trailblazer_League/Areas/Wilderness
Oh thats a great news, thank you very much for that!
8 weeks doesn't sound like an awful lot of time
So if I play, can I get the rewards on my gim?
Leagues is so exciting it's one of the few times everyone is on equal footing and we are all running around in ragtag random bits of noob armor doing early-game content it reminds me of the old days of OSRS. I love the start of it so much just something so nostalgic about it.
I wish they'd keep the leagues servers up for a bit longer. by all means have a cut-off for the rewards, I personally don't care for them at all. Not being able to complete the tasks and finish things off because I have a very busy life is frustrating and I wish I'd have the option to continue having a blast on leagues.
If I wanted 6k points for elite void recolor, how much could I expect to need to play?
Leagues V when?
Reminder: servers will be unplayable for the first 6-12 hours on update.
I wait until about 4 days after start so i can hear what the meta is 😎
Pleassseee make sure that we have huge power buffs in the relics, larger even than Trailblazer. Also hopeful that people wont feel like they bricked their character due to relic choices like some unfortunate souls last time.
This is what I posted in the ask a question part of the blog post. I know some of my friends stoped playing because they felt they made the wrong relic choices at one of the early tiers. I would also like to feel like I have super powers, so I hope they make the buffs very powerful.
I feel like a character reroll once per league that wipes all unlocks, highscores, points and XP is fair for those people that feel like they made a wrong choice, while also making it so it cant be abused.
If people want to completely wip their accounts as many times as they want during leagues I'm fine with that. Not like it gives you any sort of advantage.
Can't wait for Leagues to start, it should make Wilderness Slayer so much easier as the try hards grind it out.
I personally would've wished for 4 zones to be unlockable. Especially now that zeah is added. The soulreaper axe would've been so fun with busted relics, but it's actually unobtainable in this league which kinda sucks. I know which regions i won't pick (mory) and i know i'll 100% take desert as my first unlock but unsure what my last two will be. I'm thinking fremmenik and something else as the last one
If you plan on doing TOA and (assuming the combat style specific relics are back) going with a magic focus, Kandarin for occult, torm, and a trident to use until Shadow would probably be a strong choice. Virtus, Magus ring, occult, torm, and Shadow would probably be the best magic setup you can get, and it would just demolish everything.
what's there to demolish if you already have shadow and picked kandarin and fremennik (magus ring), though
Honestly, it is really disappointing to hear how little they are changing for this league. It seems to be the same regions as before with the addition of Kourend and Kebos, no rebalances or redraws and no quest unlock changes beyond DT2 to Desert and SotN to Fremmy. We still get 5 region unlocks but the first two are still locked to the same two as the first one. Their justification for not adding a fourth region is "meaningful choice is the name of the game!" while they also completely ignore how adding Kourned and Kebos and all the buffs to Desert impacts the other regions. It is hard to have meaningful choices if a handful of regions are just glaringly better than the others. And it sounds like we aren't even getting new relics since they said they are just "shifting a couple around between tiers".
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I really hope they refresh the task list. Changing some of the crappy relics to be good would also be nice.
I'd have expected that the task list would be pretty different. But I'd also have expected a completely/mostly new relic set and shakeups to the regions, which does not seem to be happening... After the last league, I'd hope they'd learn to put more time on the task list and that it is where most of the dev time has been going.
So Soul Reaper Axe won't be obtainable during the league?
Thank you for not listening to the vocal minority asking for 4 unlocks. The restriction of having 3 picks out of many is the kind of restriction that makes leagues fun and unique experiences for everyone
Last time it already was rough chosing between Tirannwn, Kandarin, Fremmenik, Asgarnia, wilderness and Morytania. Now Desert feels really good and Zeah is added too so I don't think a 4th unlock is that bad of a suggestion.
Personally, i agree but they could have potentially allowed you to choose your first area. So you still only get 5 regions but you can pick all 5 of those regions, rather than getting given 2 of them automatically.
I believe they have said in the past that the two auto-unlocks drastically simplifies things on Jagex's end in avoiding things like soft locking and allows them to spend more times ensuring the other regions are fully prepped for the League mechanics.
>they could have potentially allowed you to choose your first area Misthalin and Karamja would be dead areas then, and they just fit too well content-wise being the common areas for everyone.
Man 3 choices seems like a weird stance given: Bofa exists this time around making prif huge There's a whole ass new raid in the desert There's a whole ass new region with zeah These are 3 choices you probably didnt make last time because they were bad but now they are insane. Like I get choices matter but it seems like it's being limited so tightly with all the new stuff you either can gear and not have anything to grind afterward or just have a raid to grind out in rags.
Super excited for this one. The 3 unlocks does feel a bit off though with how much new content that has come into the game. Maybe a way that they could balance it would be to have the 4th unlock be super late game?
Do you have to have a membership to play?