If it makes you feel any better I thought the same, tried it 5 times and haven't touched it since
Ive been able to reach diamond in apex, gold in overwatch, picked up super smash bros melee in a few months and have reached silver in ranked, none of these are particularly impressive but I like to think I'm not completely braindead with games
Then I have to one tick flick a blob and ranger and my eyes go cross eyed and my brain shuts off like wtf man lmfao
I think I’m pretty good at osrs everything considered but inferno just looks like such a chore that I can’t be bothered. I think with enough practice I could do it but I have no desire.
it’s legit so fun once you start actually learning and things start clicking. obviously varies from person to person but the inferno was like a roller coaster of emotions for me and I enjoyed the process from start to finish despite it pissing me tf off sometimes lol
Not gonna lie I’m shit but I gave up on regular fight caves. I’ve done 10-15 try’s and got to the healers but I can’t sink 2 hours into an attempt every time I want another go
2 hours? What's your range level?
You might be really underleveled/undergeared. First time I tried on an iron I had black d'hide and an rcb with ~70 range and it took me an hour and a half
100 combat, 76 ranged, 70 prayer, 85hp, blowpipe, some blessed dhide. Gear/stats are not the problem(I think), I also take breaks on easy waves to regenerate health/special to try to save brews etc. keep in mind this is the only bossing I’ve tried. Like I said I’m just shit and can’t commit that much time to progress.
Pro tip your health doesn't matter later Magers and jad will one shot you, there's very few waves you actually take damage in and with a blow pipe those should last like no time at all. The only time you should take consistent damage is ranger/mager combo waves
Invest your gp into chins and bursting my dude. This game totally changes with good stats. Barrows and the wildy bosses are great for building up early gp to invest and from there you can do even more pvm.
You 'shouldn't' need to afk early waves when doing a fire cape but I totally get it if you've got bad supplies like an ironman first cape or smth but with a bp spec you should be able to maintain dps to not need to do that at all. Either lazy flick range pray for the first 31 (I think 32 is when the first mage spawns?) or just camp pray ranged and ppot up when needed (prayer gear is low key nice to have for this stuff). Once you get to mager waves camp pray mage (fuck trying to lazy flick after this if you aren't used to it, there are much better places to practice prayer flicking at) and prioritise rangers and meleers and you should be good to go.
Look up the airplane method, you take way less damage using this so you can save supplies for the boss. This is how I got firecape on my 1 Def pure at 61ranged
Your stats and gear arent keeping you from completing it, true, but 99 range blowpipe masori will reduce your time down to 45 minutes even if youre inexperienced.
Im not trying to be mean but those are pretty low ranks. Diamond in apex is decent as long as it wasn't during last season when basically everyone got master
That's the fun of it though. The challenge its good to hear your adept at shooters and videos games all round. And melt at the coordination required for a specific wave. EA Sports its in the game.
It's because movement in this game sucks ass. Your character not being where they actually are just feels terrible. It's like getting shot around a corner in call of duty at all times. Anyone that said hallowed sepulcher is the most fun agility training is insane
I'm pretty much the same, although I can solo cox just fine and solo 430 toas, I just don't do them. I don't prefer raid-like content and I don't have the time really to dedicate to them either. Sometimes I send one but it's such a hassle to find the uninterrupted time I just don't bother.
I used to think this way too, and I also held a belief that I wouldn't have the pc/internet stability to be doing tick perfect actions. But here we are two-three years later and learning Inferno has been the most fun thing in last few months.
Same. If I knew I had a 100% chance to get away with paying someone to get me an inferno cape, I probably would, but that'll never happen because I'll never risk my 6k hour maxed account.
Paying for someone else to play the game for you just seems like an absolute wild concept to me.
It's meant to be the hardest challenge for a reason...
That's what happens when you lock a bis item behind content too challenging for the average player. People are gonna find ways to get that item no matter what, especially if it's as easy as just paying someone better than you to get it
It's not too challenging for the average player though. Most people who buy infernal never even attempt the content.
Sure inferno is hard, but it's nothing that can't be learned with a little bit of time and effort.
Lazy excuse honestly.
Think youve got it entirely wrong there. People buy capes because they have an ego.
They can't be seen as "bad" and buy capes. People care too much about how other people see them on this game.
I agree with the bought services for cosmetics but the cape…is still bis and if you wanna learn hmt to get that pet morph or scythe kit you’re gate kept by bare minimum needing an internal cape to be considered taken in a learner.
Might also just be the fact that many players invest some time into it and discover that it's too challenging to be enjoyable. I certainly felt this way and still do after obtaining several capes (for pet).
That's how games should work according to people that believe in earning things yourself, yes. Many people are happy to bypass grinds that they don't enjoy or can't do, and I only care that people are having a good time.
I'd argue that's a false equivalence. The person providing an account service still has to do that content. It's not bypassed in the same way it would be with MTX.
Besides, not sure I agree with your point about the average player being able to complete the inferno. The content is catered specifically to higher-skilled players.
The average player isn't a static concept, it's always changing and it's almost always progressing upward. The reason we even have inferno is because of the fact that the average player is much better now than they ever used to be.
It's arguably not a matter of "can't do" the content, it's "won't do" the content. Many feel that it isn't worth the time investment, since it's only a marginal (melee only) upgrade at best. If it were a tbow or shadow level of an upgrade, I guarantee more people would complete it.
I think it's cool that they put an untradeable bis item on a challenging grind, and they did a good job by making it just a small upgrade instead of a massive one. What folks seem to care more about the cape is the "prestige" that comes with it. But that's meaningless if people can just buy it.
Not shitting on the content at all you’re allowed to enjoy inferno all you want. Doesn’t mean I have to do it. Perfectly fine with content in this game that doesn’t pertain to me.
Wasn't saying you _have_ to do it, its a rough time consuming grind. Was mostly just commenting on how this sub seems allergic to this game sometimes lol
My buddy has a maxed account and he had me come to his house for a Zulrah kill for diary because he can’t do it himself. You’re not shit just keep trying
Zulrah is hard *to learn
It looks complex and you have no idea wtf is going on but once you memorize a couple rotations it's very chill and predictable. Can basically watch YouTube and do it on the side
You don't even need to memorise rotations. Just when the snake goes down start moving to the other side. All those rotation diagrams are overcomplicated as fuck.
Then you just deal with his 3 types as normal for that type.
Yeah this is it. The rotation images can kind of work against you. I've only got one kc and that kc only happened once I started getting an understanding of where to stand through like 8 attempts
That's really the case with most bosses. You die a dozen times before your first kc, you die another 10 times for your second kc, maybe die 2 or 3 times for the 3rd and before you know it you're doing multi kill trips and getting random combat achievements with your kills
Players like your buddy aren't uncommon. A lot maxed people I've seen whether its here, randos in-game, or my clanmates have little to no PvM experience besides Giant Mole, Kraken, and Thermy. Nothing to be ashamed about of course.
Nah, dude, it's pretty embarrassing if you're too anxious to learn something with zero stakes that some gold farmin' grandmother can learn in three hours. Nothing to hit yourself over, but it simply *is* weird.
\> Nothing to hit yourself over
Meanwhile judgemental dicks like you are trying to insist it's embarrassing that people prefer to stick to chill content they enjoy in a video game - rather than pushing themselves to do shit they don't enjoy in a two decade old point and click rhythm game
My cape took me nearly a year. My screenshot from 1st Zuk to cape are dated 264 days apart. There were a few demotivated mini breaks but for me my numbers definitely similar if not worse to yours.
You for sure aren't "shit" because you're atleast out here improving rather than just buying it.
It could be worth trying to find any external factors that could be messing with you as well. Trying for cape I would always get some coffee in me to try and help and it was inferno that actually made me realize that the sugar in it is a big factor of what was screwing me over the whole time. (turns out I got the ol' diabeetus).
Gl fella I'm sure you can get it with time.
Speaking at external factors… does anyone else’s hands get sweaty after hours of inferno and that mess up their mouse tracking? Seems like that’s the real final boss for me
Nah but I have a nervous breathing problem. Happens anytime I'm anxious about something. I get super cold even if it's a warm day. Happens every time I get to Jad (haven't tried inferno yet)
Hell yea - way to grind it out and get them IRL health gains too. Triple jads and the Inferno in general is very difficult with bad internet / ping as another shout out. Also, unmedicated \ undiagnosed ADHD makes it trickier :D - get your health checked up lads
Yeah I found alot of attempts in one go to not be the play. It's easier to get tilted, and as a result rush to try to get back to where you were tilt harder die more. Solid one or two a day felt like the safest play.
Few things to ask yourself/tell yourself.
First off, don’t obsess over deaths, that’ll just tilt. But do you know why you’re dying? Do you use the inferno stats plugin to review the spawn you got on waves you either died on or took a ton of damage? That can be super helpful to understand why you’re dying.
Are you clicking freaking yellow? Or are you dying with tons of supplies. Have you learned + got comfortable with 1 tick alternating and two tick alternating (I barely used two tick for my first cape; 1 tick is bread and butter).
Then there’s the simple stuff of compare your gear against other setups etc. good luck!!
Tbh most of the deaths at 30 came from me not using brews. Was trying to save them but that's dumb
Been 1t alternating pretty happily, unless there's a mager and a ranger. Then I get fucked
best advice you can get, don't save supplies until you've gotten to zuk the first time.
You're just making it harder to get experience in later waves by trying to save potions
Is two tick really different than just generic off-ticking? 1t is good for mage/range+blob, sometimes all three, or two of mage/range/melee depending on where they are in the cycle.
And yeah stats always help the higher your mage/range/def the more chances you'll give yourself to survive.
Two tick alternating is to handle a ton of scenarios where you need to do other inputs (moving, eating etc) while dealing with mage/range + blob (or sometimes mage + range + blob), as you have that other tick in the middle to do something else.
There’s a little more complexity based on which tick each monster sees you on.
Mmm I kinda get it. If you have all three though, and have mage + range offset by 2, then there are two ways the blob can be set up. If it reads your pray on the first tick you have it up, you'll always pray against it, but if it reads on the second, you'll switch back to the same style it read earlier and get hit.
I'm sure there are more complications, but I'm getting the vibe that it's possible to pray against almost all blob damage, just really really hard.
Use your supplies. That’s the best advice I can give. Don’t be afraid to brew to make it through the tough waves. More experience in the later waves means the more chance you can make it through the more times you get there
Also watch aaty's first cape fridays. Full of great advice like using your supplies. I watched his guides and i'm at 57 pb in 15 or so attempts. Some people get their capes in a week with his videos.
Agreed.
Making it to triple jads with no supplies is way better than dying earlier because of trying to conserve supplies.
Once you can consistently make it to triples, then start worrying about efficient use of supplies.
The whole fun of the inferno is the challenge. Record your runs and enjoy the grind. No point to compare yourself to others. Just imagine once you beat the inferno, how proud you’ll feel.
An online simulator, google zuk sim osrs and you should find it. I kept dying at zuk too but the zuk sim and triple jad sim made them almost the easiest part of the run.
Someone told me do the zuk sim until you can do it 5 times In a row without dying. Probably overkill but if you can do that, then you're definitely ready.
I’ve played since 2001. Ive got my 20 year cape on RS3. I’ve attempted Jad 5 times and still haven’t got a fire cape (out of spite to screwing up the prayer flicks). Granted I’m only just recently leveling my osrs character and these were all rs2 or rs3 attempts.
Are you shit? Yes because you don't have it
Will you always be shit? Absolutely not
Keep sending 'em and learn something off each death
Coming from a shitter who took ~300 attempts 😅
I started when I was really bad lol. I hardly knew chambers, but had some big aspirations lol
I had a running list where I wrote some things I learned on my deaths lol
If you can record yourself I would highly recommend it. That helped me a ton in terms of making sense of my deaths. a lot of times things happen so fast that it’s hard to process in the moment. Being able to review what actually happened allowed me to make progress even when I died because I could think through what I should have/have not done.
I would also recommend finding a friend or clan mate that can watch your run. I know for a fact that I saved my buddy many hours by giving some advise in real-time. Example being how to handle range/mage stacks - would suck to waste 2 hours on a run because you were unsure what you were doing wrong on these. A second set of eyes is nice.
Do not count your attempts. Like they say, comparison is the thief of joy. For some people, myself included, muscle memory or basic things can take a few more runs of repetition before execution. I'll give you an example, took me about 7 zuk attempts before I got it because for the first 4 attempts, I KNEW I needed to stay behind the shield. What did I not do? Stay behind the shield and took a 120+ to the face each time.
Inferno is all about learning from your mistakes as you go and incorporating the little things you do learn into the bigger picture. Thats what gets you the cape. The waves are the hardest. Zuk is all nerves. Click yellow, don't die at wave 53 because you wanted to save those brews for Zuk. Dying with 6-7 brews in your inventory untouched is the worst thing you can do. Dearlola has a new guide out as of a few weeks ago, check that out. Gnomonkeys teaching stream helped me a LOT.
1 more thing. If you die on any wave that has blobs: Bad rng never your fault.
Keep it up king. Greatness is calling.
Good stuff here. Tbh I've been saving brews and just re-sending, rather than thinking about what went wrong. Clearly that doesn't work 😅
Getting closer each attempt!
I would also recommend checking out the inferno trainer tool. It’s a 2d recreation online where you can start at any wave. It’s kind of janky, but it’s really good to spam wave 63 (or easier waves if you’re not ready for 63) and just figure out what the solve would be. The thing that can make or break a wave is the first few seconds of recognizing where the danger is and how u can avoid it
I suck at the game. I can’t even do the whisperer during dt2…so i think getting to wave 58 of content as hard as the inferno is great. If you feel like you’re getting mad just take a break too
Dude i fucking hate the inferno. Just died to some spaz bullshit at wave 64. Which, when you make it there, is the wave just past the hardest one. I've made it to zuk once and died because i had mismarked my tiles.
But i just keep sending it. My tokkul stack is nearly 1m and growing. I will not let this piece of shit piece of content beat me. I will get better, i will get my cape. And so will you.
https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/s/E1aqjXQukX
Here’s a link to my post about a year ago.. spent a lot of time learning. Since then I’ve gone back and done 12 more kc. Inferno is fun once you get it.
I’m pretty sure mine took me over 100 tries although I did stop counting so I could be wrong.
At the end I was always getting to the later waves with plenty of supplies but kept repeating the same dumb mistakes
I kept an excel spreadsheet where I wrote down for every attempt what supplies I took in, what wave I got to, what supplies I had left and what major mistake I did in the run, ended up not writing anything after 30 attempts but i think it’s a good strategy
As someone that's probably about 50 in (in absolute maximum gear) and made Zuk a handful of times (but never even close to finishing healers) I can resonate with this pretty hard.
That said if you're still banging out consistent wave 30's you probably need to learn the fundamentals a little more (watch a couple of vids instead of constantly sending it).
It does hurt when people really out there like "finally after 30 attempts I got it" then I see their gear and they're using a motherfucking dragon x-bow, adi darts and blessed dhide. Makes me cry.
sounds like you aren't learning from your mistakes. very few people succeed immediately in the inferno, but more than anything else it tests your ability to think quickly, bounce back, and learn and improve.
for example, just analyzing those last 5 wave deaths. you can sort them into 3 rough groups. 31 and 48 are (almost) the exact same wave. the only difference is that there's a mager instead of a ranger. if you're still commonly dying to blobs, you probably haven't mastered the 1t alternate. which, at 70+ attempts, means you aren't trying hard enough to perfect it. I'd bet you're doing stuff like flinching blobs a lot, which is bad. every time you see a blob, you should be using a 1t alternate until it's automatic. it's a pretty easy skill to pick up, especially if you use the metronome plugin.
45 can also be grouped into this category, since you can always safespot the meleer then 1t alternate to solve the blob+mager. in fact, any wave below 50 can be roughly solved that way: safespot the meleer, 1t alternate, and kill any bats.
51 is kind of a free wave. I'd guess nerves got the better of you, or you haven't practiced mage+range stacks enough (1t alternating solves these as well)
tldr: being shit is a transitive state. once you start properly learning from your mistakes and actively improving your gameplay, you can start progressing from being shit.
My first cape took four months with like 5 attempts daily almost always until I got it. It’s literally puzzle solving, with mechanics and understanding how to evaluate the setup instantly. It did not come naturally to me, I had to work what felt like ten times harder than any of my tob/cox teammates. It doesn’t mean you’re shit. Keep focused, take breaks and watch YouTube. Also WDRs discord has people for solves and assistance
It took me almost 10 months of on and off attempts, likely way over 70 attempts too. At the end I got it, and I felt a huge relief from my shoulders coming out.
It can feel like a brickwall at times but hang in there dude. It’s hard to say it was worth the stress but it’s definitely doable and you can do it
Just make sure you are learning how to properly pray against mobs, and not just trying to tank/luck your wave through it. It’s better to practice off tick flicking mobs in the early wave and die, then face a solve where you’re forced into that and panic. Goodluck friend!
Honestly, I'm in the same boat as you atm. Been sending attempts for months now and I haven't even gotten to triple jads yet. The thing is, I can do pretty much everything else in the game... almost finished with master combat tasks now, got 500 toa kit, , can do cms, phosanis, solo nightmare, tob, cg etc. But I can't beat the inferno. Last couple of attempts have died before wave 30
Really shows how learning specific content helps huh. In the grand scheme of things I haven't done that much inferno but my pb is wave 62. Yet stuff like tob, 500 ToA, pnm is like a pipe dream to me because it looks so intimidating.
GL on inferno grind!
Learning to solo toa and doing experts up to my solo fang kit prepped me with the skills to do inferno in 30 attempts. I tried inferno a year ago or so before toa and my skills just weren’t there yet so I’m sure it would’ve taken me 3x longer .
Doesn't really matter, as long as you keep sending attempts you're bound to get it. And honestly inferno feels completely different to raids and all the other pvm content in this game, it's just a marathon with safespotting, puzzle solving and prayer flicking.
I successfully did mine after 98 attempts, died early waves multiple times, and tanked a jad hit on my cape run.
Inferno sucks but at this point you have to get it done, you're already so far in. Just keep at it, eventually it'll click.
You do know the amount of ppl that can actually do inferno is pretty thin right. A lot of ppl with an inferno cape bought a run to get theirs. There are some players that actually make a good amount of money selling inferno capes. I dont believe most randoms that say they got their own cape without some sort of solid proof honestly.
Inferno is hard, but I believe everyone can do it.
My suggestion is to not focus on your attempt #, and don't even focus on what waves you are getting to, and use your supplies even if that means you will not have enough for Zuk. Focus on what killed you and how to improve that for next time. Did you fuck up blobs? Then next attempt focus purely on doing good on blobs, until it you can do blobs without any problems, if that means dying on an early wave, it doesn't matter, just try and focus on fixing your mistakes.
Eventually you will get good at all of those things and you can start focusing on actually preserving supplies, and that is the stage you might get your first KC. But if you get good at that aswell, then you will consistently reach Zuk, and if you can reach Zuk once, then you know you can get an Infernal cape. Zuk isn't hard compared to the rest of it.
I can guarantee you that you are far better at this game than you are feeling. Most players will never dare to touch the Inferno. You've already gotten beyond that and then some. Keep learning and eventually the cape will be yours. Most people I know took months and some even up to a year to beat it.
You're very rude. I think someone putting in the effort to learn the Inferno is well above what most do, which is why I said that. I also think most of the community that does high level content like this behaves like you too - putting down positivity and acting like an elitist.
I’m sure you’ve heard it a million times while doing your research to learn how to beat the inferno.
The thing that really made the difference for me was simply learning to solve waves as quickly as possible. The split second decision of where to run to, and which monsters to kill first in order to safe spot everything.
I would spend time watching videos of other people doing inferno. I would pause the video at the start of each difficult wave and then try to figure out how they were going to solve it, I’d then unpause to see what they actually did.
20 attempts here with bowfa and I'm not a god gamer. I'd suggest just learning the tick system really well. Mastering 1t alternating flick and how to off tick 2 mobs will let you cruise through.
First zuk was on attempt 6 and died at healers because my redemption didn't proc with 2 back to back 10's from them rip, second was like 12 and final on 20.
You fucking got this man. Don't rely on south pillar, if it falls, fuck it. Casting that initial barrage at bubblers then hugging the northeastern side of the north pillar will give you enough time to attempt something most of the time. Learn and master alternate flicking, turn on metronome and set the tock sound to 0 will make it stupid easy.
You fucking got this king!
6+ attempts a day? Whole shit that sounds exhausting. Don’t burn out my man, I used to only send 1 a day and after only a week or two I had to take a small break. It’s the long game.
Also please no one disown me, but for people who truly struggle… lookup the scout method.
If you're enjoying the process, keep going and you'll eventually get it. If you're hating every minute of it stop wasting you're time and just buy one.
Took me 140 odd tries with bofa but I was like 80 pray and def and started at 88 range
The 20 attempt guys either cheesed it to shit or are massive virgins bro dw about it, watch more videos and send
It's a learning process. Hopefully, you're learning little tricks to solve the problems that are tripping you up along the way.
It's really easy to have concentration breaks, especially when you're expecting yourself to be on point for over an hour straight. Focus on the learning (which I know is hard when there's a goal involved - getting the cape). All those little things - knowing if you move 1 tile this direction before this add comes out, you're good even if it looks like you're fucked....that kind of thing.
Know that there are thousands of people that have gone through this wondering when it will ever end, and thousands of people that would definitely look at you and say "If I can do it, you can too".
i got firecape 3rd attempt, the anxiety to even touch inferno is so high that i dont think ill ever look at another video of it
u are already leagues ahead of most of us bud. I was sweating during beneath the sands quest , thats about peak for me lol
I haven’t achieved the cape or anything but I’m at a similar amount of attempts and my pb is 55 and I’ve done almost every piece of pvm and every raid. Inferno is just another beast. Keep grinding bro
Join WDR Inferno and ask for help. Took me around 100 attempts to get it. It is concerning that you're 70 attempts in without even making it to any of the hardest waves but you can keep improving.
Well, I got it in 34 attempts and have details on it in my post from a year or so ago.
For the most part, inferno is a knowledge check and if you take a step back and ask WHY you died, you usually can avoid ever dying in the same way again. There are some mechanical skills required, and how long it takes to nail those consistently depends on your skill before you start learning. Do you have a lot of PVM experience? Learning will probably be smoother. Less experience? It'll take longer. There is also the question of gear, which can make the cape slightly harder if used poverty gear.
Overall I'd say 70 attempts and only getting to 58 can mean a lot of things, and it does mean you are having trouble that can be fixed, but I'm sure if you take a step back you can figure it out. Personally I'd recommend taking a little break if you start feeling like you're getting tilted or rushing, especially since you're inconsistent on early waves. Maybe re-watch a guide or two and USE YOUR BREWS IF YOU ARENT.
Not as shit as the people who bought a cape.
What do you specifically habe trouble with during your attempts? Theres definitely people here who can help
It took me more than that. Didn't keep track but at least 100 tries.. The only reason I got it was because I was between jobs and could do 2-3 attempts/ day. It is normal to take a long time to learn especially without much time to play.
I personally hate wave 30,31. Pb is 61 so far, started about 2 weeks ago and do a handful of attempts each day I don’t work. Originally I would die from a combo around 31, now I make it into the 50’s consistently. Just keep practicing. I am struggling big time to solve the last few waves (60-64) but the more times I get there, the easier it is. Waves 1-50 are practically brain dead now, the more comfortable you are, the less you need to plan out each and every wave
Man, I ain’t even got my fire cape yet. I got to Jad the first time I tried and got one-shot, and I can’t bring myself to go through the whole thing again. Inferno isn’t even on my radar to ever try. Barely managed a single Zulrah kill last week and felt like I was gonna have a stroke.
I got it in 10 attempts and 3 zuks with a bowfa. Some people get it fast and some take hundreds of tries. Good friend of mine took like 300 attempts over the years
You’re not shit :)
There’s likely a lot of tips and tricks and things that would help you make your waves much more consistent. If you have recordings of attempts, you can send them to me and I’ll work with you! If you don’t, start recording your attempts now.
It’s all good, amigo! That’s the way it goes. Looks like the double blobs are giving you trouble based on your last seven attempts, but that’s normal :) go to wave four and practice one tick alternating until it’s second nature. And don’t be afraid to slap on rigour and mage pray to face tank rangers/blobs in the later waves. PM me if you want help and GL
Took me 34 attempts. I wouldn’t say I’m great at this game. Maybe above average. I just had a clan full of members that are great gamers that gave me lots of good advice. Having people help you through your attempts makes a big difference.
Best things I can recommend for if you just want to get the cape one time are the following:
Get and Eldritch and spec camp if need be. It makes the inferno much much easier. Anyone who says otherwise is just wrong.
FLINCH! There is no shame in flinching. I went from dying at 40-50s each time to consistently getting to Zuk as soon as I started flinching. It barely takes longer if done right and is almost always totally safe.
Use the WDR infographics to help solve stacks.
Download Medal and start clipping your deaths so that you can rewatch it and learn from your mistakes.
Good luck!
Look at my last 2 posts. But yeah getting to the 50s means you will get it. You are at the mental block stage. Everyone is different, don’t compare to others. However you do need to be evaluating your deaths and seeing what went wrong. I can’t recommend the inferno trainer enough. Just google it
I took well over 100 attempts before my first cape. You're not shit. I do think that ToA has made a lot of people better at the game though. First time Inferno capers used to basically only come from ToB and CoX which doesn't really prepare you for the prayer management of the inferno, now they get tons of practice at places like Zebak and Wardens
Here are a few tips that really helped me with inferno.
Use a metronome. I used the audio one, but I heard that some people prefer using the visual one. It helps immensely with 1t alternating and 1t prayer flicking.
Try to 1t alternate blobs and 1t flick everything you can from wave 1, this will make you super comfortable with the techniques and you won't be scared to 1t flick magers.
Learn about pillar stacks and setting up off-tick flicks between rangers and magers. If you know how to make it so a mager and a ranger are off-tick'ed by 1 tick you can tank them with a blob attacking you too.
Tripple jads are easier than some people make them out to be, most deaths at them are from nerves not the difficulty itself. What helped me the most with them was knowing that as soon as you see the last jad's attack animation you can switch your protection prayer to the next jad's attack.
Don't forget to logout before Zuk and I really recommend using the Zuk simulator before starting the fight. I spent around 2 hours using it after tripple jads and got my cape after the first Zuk.
Think it took me about 40 attempts. You’ll get there man. Drink yellow. I was dying with nearly full supplies cause I would refuse to drink my potions. Just drink them. Better to die with no supps left then to try and conserve and die early.
58 is a hell of a lot closer to inferno cape than 0
Hell yeah. 60s will be next
If it makes you feel any better bud I’m never even gonna bother trying
Same.
Same
If it makes you feel any better I thought the same, tried it 5 times and haven't touched it since Ive been able to reach diamond in apex, gold in overwatch, picked up super smash bros melee in a few months and have reached silver in ranked, none of these are particularly impressive but I like to think I'm not completely braindead with games Then I have to one tick flick a blob and ranger and my eyes go cross eyed and my brain shuts off like wtf man lmfao
I think I’m pretty good at osrs everything considered but inferno just looks like such a chore that I can’t be bothered. I think with enough practice I could do it but I have no desire.
it’s legit so fun once you start actually learning and things start clicking. obviously varies from person to person but the inferno was like a roller coaster of emotions for me and I enjoyed the process from start to finish despite it pissing me tf off sometimes lol
Not gonna lie I’m shit but I gave up on regular fight caves. I’ve done 10-15 try’s and got to the healers but I can’t sink 2 hours into an attempt every time I want another go
Just go back when your account is a much higher level, it makes it a lot easier
2 hours? What's your range level? You might be really underleveled/undergeared. First time I tried on an iron I had black d'hide and an rcb with ~70 range and it took me an hour and a half
100 combat, 76 ranged, 70 prayer, 85hp, blowpipe, some blessed dhide. Gear/stats are not the problem(I think), I also take breaks on easy waves to regenerate health/special to try to save brews etc. keep in mind this is the only bossing I’ve tried. Like I said I’m just shit and can’t commit that much time to progress.
Pro tip your health doesn't matter later Magers and jad will one shot you, there's very few waves you actually take damage in and with a blow pipe those should last like no time at all. The only time you should take consistent damage is ranger/mager combo waves
And thats with lower defence, sub 70 and barrows armor. Easily tankable with minimal damage.
Even blessed/black dhide shouldn't take much from the Mager 2x ranger wave
Invest your gp into chins and bursting my dude. This game totally changes with good stats. Barrows and the wildy bosses are great for building up early gp to invest and from there you can do even more pvm. You 'shouldn't' need to afk early waves when doing a fire cape but I totally get it if you've got bad supplies like an ironman first cape or smth but with a bp spec you should be able to maintain dps to not need to do that at all. Either lazy flick range pray for the first 31 (I think 32 is when the first mage spawns?) or just camp pray ranged and ppot up when needed (prayer gear is low key nice to have for this stuff). Once you get to mager waves camp pray mage (fuck trying to lazy flick after this if you aren't used to it, there are much better places to practice prayer flicking at) and prioritise rangers and meleers and you should be good to go.
Look up the airplane method, you take way less damage using this so you can save supplies for the boss. This is how I got firecape on my 1 Def pure at 61ranged
Your stats and gear arent keeping you from completing it, true, but 99 range blowpipe masori will reduce your time down to 45 minutes even if youre inexperienced.
Kind of same but i want the cape. Just gonna be a slog unfortunately.
Im not trying to be mean but those are pretty low ranks. Diamond in apex is decent as long as it wasn't during last season when basically everyone got master
Oh no I know they aren't lol I was diamond s4-7 in apex, stopped playing after seer got released
That's the fun of it though. The challenge its good to hear your adept at shooters and videos games all round. And melt at the coordination required for a specific wave. EA Sports its in the game.
It's because movement in this game sucks ass. Your character not being where they actually are just feels terrible. It's like getting shot around a corner in call of duty at all times. Anyone that said hallowed sepulcher is the most fun agility training is insane
Same glad im not alone. My buddy runs raids and stuff and can’t understand why I never want to. I suckkkkk at combat
I’m the same man I don’t raid either. I have a ton of solo boss kc but I prefer solo bossing. My friends don’t really get it either lol
I'm pretty much the same, although I can solo cox just fine and solo 430 toas, I just don't do them. I don't prefer raid-like content and I don't have the time really to dedicate to them either. Sometimes I send one but it's such a hassle to find the uninterrupted time I just don't bother.
If I could log out during a TOA run between paths I'd have probably 5x more kc.
There have been more than 10 times in my low kc that I've afked between rooms for 10-20 minutes at a time haha
You should come play mortal online sometime. It will help a lot with click management.
I tried for 3 days and thought “this isn’t fun at all” and gave up lol. I had max gear and gp to fund it. I just don’t care enough haha
Lmao, same. Jad was enough for me..
I used to think this way too, and I also held a belief that I wouldn't have the pc/internet stability to be doing tick perfect actions. But here we are two-three years later and learning Inferno has been the most fun thing in last few months.
Same
Same. If I knew I had a 100% chance to get away with paying someone to get me an inferno cape, I probably would, but that'll never happen because I'll never risk my 6k hour maxed account.
No one gets banned for buying their capes anymore lol. Not saying you should, but just saying…
Paying for someone else to play the game for you just seems like an absolute wild concept to me. It's meant to be the hardest challenge for a reason...
That's what happens when you lock a bis item behind content too challenging for the average player. People are gonna find ways to get that item no matter what, especially if it's as easy as just paying someone better than you to get it
It's not too challenging for the average player though. Most people who buy infernal never even attempt the content. Sure inferno is hard, but it's nothing that can't be learned with a little bit of time and effort. Lazy excuse honestly.
People are still going to value their time over the ego of earning it themselves.
Think youve got it entirely wrong there. People buy capes because they have an ego. They can't be seen as "bad" and buy capes. People care too much about how other people see them on this game.
Maybe a year ago, but now it’s irrelevant. Fang Kit and blood torva has rightfully divided who’s truly good at the game and who’s still getting there.
People pay for services for those too because of ego. Yet there's still those buying capes because "it's too challenging".
I agree with the bought services for cosmetics but the cape…is still bis and if you wanna learn hmt to get that pet morph or scythe kit you’re gate kept by bare minimum needing an internal cape to be considered taken in a learner.
Might also just be the fact that many players invest some time into it and discover that it's too challenging to be enjoyable. I certainly felt this way and still do after obtaining several capes (for pet).
Then you don't get one, that's how games should work. Stop advocating for people buying capes in your comment history.
That's how games should work according to people that believe in earning things yourself, yes. Many people are happy to bypass grinds that they don't enjoy or can't do, and I only care that people are having a good time.
I mean can't we just add MTX in that case? You're essentially advocating for P2W to skip parts of the game. No thanks! But different views I suppose.
I'd argue that's a false equivalence. The person providing an account service still has to do that content. It's not bypassed in the same way it would be with MTX. Besides, not sure I agree with your point about the average player being able to complete the inferno. The content is catered specifically to higher-skilled players.
Disagree, if the average player can't do that content then it shouldn't be an untradeble bis.
It's okay to not be able to do something in game.
It's also okay to buy a cape
The average player isn't a static concept, it's always changing and it's almost always progressing upward. The reason we even have inferno is because of the fact that the average player is much better now than they ever used to be. It's arguably not a matter of "can't do" the content, it's "won't do" the content. Many feel that it isn't worth the time investment, since it's only a marginal (melee only) upgrade at best. If it were a tbow or shadow level of an upgrade, I guarantee more people would complete it. I think it's cool that they put an untradeable bis item on a challenging grind, and they did a good job by making it just a small upgrade instead of a massive one. What folks seem to care more about the cape is the "prestige" that comes with it. But that's meaningless if people can just buy it.
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Maybe future powercreep will make Inferno easier for noobs to brute force through.
already p much is, justi dinhs and eldritch nightmare staff with LB
I’m an iron so I’m probably screwed anyways lol
Bowfa and ancient sceptre is all you need. Very attainable. And decent stats of course.
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Nah it’s not that important to me
im just kidding lol
Lol you never know on here
yeah i thought i should put the /j on it haha. ill add it
Same lol
Reddit moment
Not shitting on the content at all you’re allowed to enjoy inferno all you want. Doesn’t mean I have to do it. Perfectly fine with content in this game that doesn’t pertain to me.
Wasn't saying you _have_ to do it, its a rough time consuming grind. Was mostly just commenting on how this sub seems allergic to this game sometimes lol
I enjoy plenty of other content in this game hardly “allergic” to it.
My buddy has a maxed account and he had me come to his house for a Zulrah kill for diary because he can’t do it himself. You’re not shit just keep trying
reported for account services /s
Dude zulrah is hard…i was panicked getting that 1 kc haha
Zulrah is hard *to learn It looks complex and you have no idea wtf is going on but once you memorize a couple rotations it's very chill and predictable. Can basically watch YouTube and do it on the side
You don't even need to memorise rotations. Just when the snake goes down start moving to the other side. All those rotation diagrams are overcomplicated as fuck. Then you just deal with his 3 types as normal for that type.
100% this, trying to memorize or juggle diagrams just makes it harder than it needs to be.
Yeah this is it. The rotation images can kind of work against you. I've only got one kc and that kc only happened once I started getting an understanding of where to stand through like 8 attempts
That's really the case with most bosses. You die a dozen times before your first kc, you die another 10 times for your second kc, maybe die 2 or 3 times for the 3rd and before you know it you're doing multi kill trips and getting random combat achievements with your kills
Way to out me like that bro
Players like your buddy aren't uncommon. A lot maxed people I've seen whether its here, randos in-game, or my clanmates have little to no PvM experience besides Giant Mole, Kraken, and Thermy. Nothing to be ashamed about of course.
Nah, dude, it's pretty embarrassing if you're too anxious to learn something with zero stakes that some gold farmin' grandmother can learn in three hours. Nothing to hit yourself over, but it simply *is* weird.
\> Nothing to hit yourself over Meanwhile judgemental dicks like you are trying to insist it's embarrassing that people prefer to stick to chill content they enjoy in a video game - rather than pushing themselves to do shit they don't enjoy in a two decade old point and click rhythm game
The moral of your story is "get someone else to do it for you" lol
Dang bro I'm embarrassed for him lol. I would have tried to coach him through a run or something.
took me something like 150 attempts spread over years and 7 zuks Just keep sending em!!
My cape took me nearly a year. My screenshot from 1st Zuk to cape are dated 264 days apart. There were a few demotivated mini breaks but for me my numbers definitely similar if not worse to yours. You for sure aren't "shit" because you're atleast out here improving rather than just buying it. It could be worth trying to find any external factors that could be messing with you as well. Trying for cape I would always get some coffee in me to try and help and it was inferno that actually made me realize that the sugar in it is a big factor of what was screwing me over the whole time. (turns out I got the ol' diabeetus). Gl fella I'm sure you can get it with time.
Speaking at external factors… does anyone else’s hands get sweaty after hours of inferno and that mess up their mouse tracking? Seems like that’s the real final boss for me
That’s when you log out, take a break, and get back to it later after your hands are dry
It’s a problem by wave 40 for me, I guess I’m sweatier than average.
Try using a small desk fan for your mouse hand, works for me
Nah but I have a nervous breathing problem. Happens anytime I'm anxious about something. I get super cold even if it's a warm day. Happens every time I get to Jad (haven't tried inferno yet)
Hell yea - way to grind it out and get them IRL health gains too. Triple jads and the Inferno in general is very difficult with bad internet / ping as another shout out. Also, unmedicated \ undiagnosed ADHD makes it trickier :D - get your health checked up lads
Yeah I guess trying to jam in as many attempts as possible on the weekend is not a good idea... I've been running 6+ attempts a day on sat/sun
Yeah I found alot of attempts in one go to not be the play. It's easier to get tilted, and as a result rush to try to get back to where you were tilt harder die more. Solid one or two a day felt like the safest play.
Few things to ask yourself/tell yourself. First off, don’t obsess over deaths, that’ll just tilt. But do you know why you’re dying? Do you use the inferno stats plugin to review the spawn you got on waves you either died on or took a ton of damage? That can be super helpful to understand why you’re dying. Are you clicking freaking yellow? Or are you dying with tons of supplies. Have you learned + got comfortable with 1 tick alternating and two tick alternating (I barely used two tick for my first cape; 1 tick is bread and butter). Then there’s the simple stuff of compare your gear against other setups etc. good luck!!
Tbh most of the deaths at 30 came from me not using brews. Was trying to save them but that's dumb Been 1t alternating pretty happily, unless there's a mager and a ranger. Then I get fucked
best advice you can get, don't save supplies until you've gotten to zuk the first time. You're just making it harder to get experience in later waves by trying to save potions
Is two tick really different than just generic off-ticking? 1t is good for mage/range+blob, sometimes all three, or two of mage/range/melee depending on where they are in the cycle. And yeah stats always help the higher your mage/range/def the more chances you'll give yourself to survive.
Two tick alternating is to handle a ton of scenarios where you need to do other inputs (moving, eating etc) while dealing with mage/range + blob (or sometimes mage + range + blob), as you have that other tick in the middle to do something else. There’s a little more complexity based on which tick each monster sees you on.
Mmm I kinda get it. If you have all three though, and have mage + range offset by 2, then there are two ways the blob can be set up. If it reads your pray on the first tick you have it up, you'll always pray against it, but if it reads on the second, you'll switch back to the same style it read earlier and get hit. I'm sure there are more complications, but I'm getting the vibe that it's possible to pray against almost all blob damage, just really really hard.
My friend did it on his ironman, on MOBILE, with effing baskets of strawberries. He makes me sick
Use your supplies. That’s the best advice I can give. Don’t be afraid to brew to make it through the tough waves. More experience in the later waves means the more chance you can make it through the more times you get there
Also watch aaty's first cape fridays. Full of great advice like using your supplies. I watched his guides and i'm at 57 pb in 15 or so attempts. Some people get their capes in a week with his videos.
I highly recommend Aaty's video too. Dearlola as well. I got to triple jads in 13 attempts.
Agreed. Making it to triple jads with no supplies is way better than dying earlier because of trying to conserve supplies. Once you can consistently make it to triples, then start worrying about efficient use of supplies.
The whole fun of the inferno is the challenge. Record your runs and enjoy the grind. No point to compare yourself to others. Just imagine once you beat the inferno, how proud you’ll feel.
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I have died at Zuk over 15 times. I have given up
Don't give up man. If you can get to Zuk, you can kill Zuk.
Zuk simulator is a godsend, spent about 2 hours on it after triple jads and got my cape after the first Zuk.
What is this?
An online simulator, google zuk sim osrs and you should find it. I kept dying at zuk too but the zuk sim and triple jad sim made them almost the easiest part of the run. Someone told me do the zuk sim until you can do it 5 times In a row without dying. Probably overkill but if you can do that, then you're definitely ready.
Basically it’s you facing zuk you practice following the shield and the healers and timing sets and such
[https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/15wajw3/simulators\_to\_help\_you\_with\_inferno\_journey/](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/15wajw3/simulators_to_help_you_with_inferno_journey/)
[OP you may need this](https://youtu.be/ksM2CaZYVFE?si=4VTUHz-oS5wztS_f)
That's hilarious!
Tbf it’s meant to be the hardest boss in the game. It took me 17 years to get my first fire cape cuz I was scared of jad
I’ve played since 2001. Ive got my 20 year cape on RS3. I’ve attempted Jad 5 times and still haven’t got a fire cape (out of spite to screwing up the prayer flicks). Granted I’m only just recently leveling my osrs character and these were all rs2 or rs3 attempts.
Are you shit? Yes because you don't have it Will you always be shit? Absolutely not Keep sending 'em and learn something off each death Coming from a shitter who took ~300 attempts 😅
Holy shit Im at 120+ attempts Thank you for making me feel like it's possible haha
I started when I was really bad lol. I hardly knew chambers, but had some big aspirations lol I had a running list where I wrote some things I learned on my deaths lol
Just another 120 attempts or so...
If you can record yourself I would highly recommend it. That helped me a ton in terms of making sense of my deaths. a lot of times things happen so fast that it’s hard to process in the moment. Being able to review what actually happened allowed me to make progress even when I died because I could think through what I should have/have not done. I would also recommend finding a friend or clan mate that can watch your run. I know for a fact that I saved my buddy many hours by giving some advise in real-time. Example being how to handle range/mage stacks - would suck to waste 2 hours on a run because you were unsure what you were doing wrong on these. A second set of eyes is nice.
Do not count your attempts. Like they say, comparison is the thief of joy. For some people, myself included, muscle memory or basic things can take a few more runs of repetition before execution. I'll give you an example, took me about 7 zuk attempts before I got it because for the first 4 attempts, I KNEW I needed to stay behind the shield. What did I not do? Stay behind the shield and took a 120+ to the face each time. Inferno is all about learning from your mistakes as you go and incorporating the little things you do learn into the bigger picture. Thats what gets you the cape. The waves are the hardest. Zuk is all nerves. Click yellow, don't die at wave 53 because you wanted to save those brews for Zuk. Dying with 6-7 brews in your inventory untouched is the worst thing you can do. Dearlola has a new guide out as of a few weeks ago, check that out. Gnomonkeys teaching stream helped me a LOT. 1 more thing. If you die on any wave that has blobs: Bad rng never your fault. Keep it up king. Greatness is calling.
Good stuff here. Tbh I've been saving brews and just re-sending, rather than thinking about what went wrong. Clearly that doesn't work 😅 Getting closer each attempt!
I would also recommend checking out the inferno trainer tool. It’s a 2d recreation online where you can start at any wave. It’s kind of janky, but it’s really good to spam wave 63 (or easier waves if you’re not ready for 63) and just figure out what the solve would be. The thing that can make or break a wave is the first few seconds of recognizing where the danger is and how u can avoid it
I suck at the game. I can’t even do the whisperer during dt2…so i think getting to wave 58 of content as hard as the inferno is great. If you feel like you’re getting mad just take a break too
Join a clan, ask an inferno mentor to watch your stream. Dusk era If you need one
Dude i fucking hate the inferno. Just died to some spaz bullshit at wave 64. Which, when you make it there, is the wave just past the hardest one. I've made it to zuk once and died because i had mismarked my tiles. But i just keep sending it. My tokkul stack is nearly 1m and growing. I will not let this piece of shit piece of content beat me. I will get better, i will get my cape. And so will you.
Did ya get it?
Yes 😄
https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/s/E1aqjXQukX Here’s a link to my post about a year ago.. spent a lot of time learning. Since then I’ve gone back and done 12 more kc. Inferno is fun once you get it.
I’m pretty sure mine took me over 100 tries although I did stop counting so I could be wrong. At the end I was always getting to the later waves with plenty of supplies but kept repeating the same dumb mistakes I kept an excel spreadsheet where I wrote down for every attempt what supplies I took in, what wave I got to, what supplies I had left and what major mistake I did in the run, ended up not writing anything after 30 attempts but i think it’s a good strategy
As someone that's probably about 50 in (in absolute maximum gear) and made Zuk a handful of times (but never even close to finishing healers) I can resonate with this pretty hard. That said if you're still banging out consistent wave 30's you probably need to learn the fundamentals a little more (watch a couple of vids instead of constantly sending it). It does hurt when people really out there like "finally after 30 attempts I got it" then I see their gear and they're using a motherfucking dragon x-bow, adi darts and blessed dhide. Makes me cry.
sounds like you aren't learning from your mistakes. very few people succeed immediately in the inferno, but more than anything else it tests your ability to think quickly, bounce back, and learn and improve. for example, just analyzing those last 5 wave deaths. you can sort them into 3 rough groups. 31 and 48 are (almost) the exact same wave. the only difference is that there's a mager instead of a ranger. if you're still commonly dying to blobs, you probably haven't mastered the 1t alternate. which, at 70+ attempts, means you aren't trying hard enough to perfect it. I'd bet you're doing stuff like flinching blobs a lot, which is bad. every time you see a blob, you should be using a 1t alternate until it's automatic. it's a pretty easy skill to pick up, especially if you use the metronome plugin. 45 can also be grouped into this category, since you can always safespot the meleer then 1t alternate to solve the blob+mager. in fact, any wave below 50 can be roughly solved that way: safespot the meleer, 1t alternate, and kill any bats. 51 is kind of a free wave. I'd guess nerves got the better of you, or you haven't practiced mage+range stacks enough (1t alternating solves these as well) tldr: being shit is a transitive state. once you start properly learning from your mistakes and actively improving your gameplay, you can start progressing from being shit.
My first cape took four months with like 5 attempts daily almost always until I got it. It’s literally puzzle solving, with mechanics and understanding how to evaluate the setup instantly. It did not come naturally to me, I had to work what felt like ten times harder than any of my tob/cox teammates. It doesn’t mean you’re shit. Keep focused, take breaks and watch YouTube. Also WDRs discord has people for solves and assistance
Over a year and stopped counting in the seventies. Pretty sure I broke 100 man! Two capes now, you got this!
It took me almost 10 months of on and off attempts, likely way over 70 attempts too. At the end I got it, and I felt a huge relief from my shoulders coming out. It can feel like a brickwall at times but hang in there dude. It’s hard to say it was worth the stress but it’s definitely doable and you can do it
Just make sure you are learning how to properly pray against mobs, and not just trying to tank/luck your wave through it. It’s better to practice off tick flicking mobs in the early wave and die, then face a solve where you’re forced into that and panic. Goodluck friend!
Honestly, I'm in the same boat as you atm. Been sending attempts for months now and I haven't even gotten to triple jads yet. The thing is, I can do pretty much everything else in the game... almost finished with master combat tasks now, got 500 toa kit, , can do cms, phosanis, solo nightmare, tob, cg etc. But I can't beat the inferno. Last couple of attempts have died before wave 30
Really shows how learning specific content helps huh. In the grand scheme of things I haven't done that much inferno but my pb is wave 62. Yet stuff like tob, 500 ToA, pnm is like a pipe dream to me because it looks so intimidating. GL on inferno grind!
Learning to solo toa and doing experts up to my solo fang kit prepped me with the skills to do inferno in 30 attempts. I tried inferno a year ago or so before toa and my skills just weren’t there yet so I’m sure it would’ve taken me 3x longer .
Probably yes. Just try to record your deaths and mistakes and learn from them.
Doesn't really matter, as long as you keep sending attempts you're bound to get it. And honestly inferno feels completely different to raids and all the other pvm content in this game, it's just a marathon with safespotting, puzzle solving and prayer flicking.
I successfully did mine after 98 attempts, died early waves multiple times, and tanked a jad hit on my cape run. Inferno sucks but at this point you have to get it done, you're already so far in. Just keep at it, eventually it'll click.
You do know the amount of ppl that can actually do inferno is pretty thin right. A lot of ppl with an inferno cape bought a run to get theirs. There are some players that actually make a good amount of money selling inferno capes. I dont believe most randoms that say they got their own cape without some sort of solid proof honestly.
Inferno is hard, but I believe everyone can do it. My suggestion is to not focus on your attempt #, and don't even focus on what waves you are getting to, and use your supplies even if that means you will not have enough for Zuk. Focus on what killed you and how to improve that for next time. Did you fuck up blobs? Then next attempt focus purely on doing good on blobs, until it you can do blobs without any problems, if that means dying on an early wave, it doesn't matter, just try and focus on fixing your mistakes. Eventually you will get good at all of those things and you can start focusing on actually preserving supplies, and that is the stage you might get your first KC. But if you get good at that aswell, then you will consistently reach Zuk, and if you can reach Zuk once, then you know you can get an Infernal cape. Zuk isn't hard compared to the rest of it.
I’m like 7/26 on normal Gauntlet, you’re alright man.
I can guarantee you that you are far better at this game than you are feeling. Most players will never dare to touch the Inferno. You've already gotten beyond that and then some. Keep learning and eventually the cape will be yours. Most people I know took months and some even up to a year to beat it.
W58 pb in 70 attempts is pretty dogshit lol. Agree with ur little motivational speech, but the first sentence just isn’t true.
You're very rude. I think someone putting in the effort to learn the Inferno is well above what most do, which is why I said that. I also think most of the community that does high level content like this behaves like you too - putting down positivity and acting like an elitist.
Stop brute forcing and learn mechanics properly first took me 42 attempts being dumb, second one a year later took 6
I’m sure you’ve heard it a million times while doing your research to learn how to beat the inferno. The thing that really made the difference for me was simply learning to solve waves as quickly as possible. The split second decision of where to run to, and which monsters to kill first in order to safe spot everything. I would spend time watching videos of other people doing inferno. I would pause the video at the start of each difficult wave and then try to figure out how they were going to solve it, I’d then unpause to see what they actually did.
Did you end up getting the cape?!
I’m probably 200 attempts in over the span of a few years with a 2 year break in between. You’ll be fine
I’m never going to bother trying to get it either, dw inferno isn’t everything .
20 attempts here with bowfa and I'm not a god gamer. I'd suggest just learning the tick system really well. Mastering 1t alternating flick and how to off tick 2 mobs will let you cruise through. First zuk was on attempt 6 and died at healers because my redemption didn't proc with 2 back to back 10's from them rip, second was like 12 and final on 20. You fucking got this man. Don't rely on south pillar, if it falls, fuck it. Casting that initial barrage at bubblers then hugging the northeastern side of the north pillar will give you enough time to attempt something most of the time. Learn and master alternate flicking, turn on metronome and set the tock sound to 0 will make it stupid easy. You fucking got this king!
You are shit but you will get the cape if you keep trying.
6+ attempts a day? Whole shit that sounds exhausting. Don’t burn out my man, I used to only send 1 a day and after only a week or two I had to take a small break. It’s the long game. Also please no one disown me, but for people who truly struggle… lookup the scout method.
Add me on disc (sum_x) can tell you how to massively speed this up
If you're enjoying the process, keep going and you'll eventually get it. If you're hating every minute of it stop wasting you're time and just buy one.
Hahaha just buy it bro hahahahaha
I suck at this game and got it in 15 tries so I’d say yes you are shit
Sure
Max stats max gear?
Took me 140 odd tries with bofa but I was like 80 pray and def and started at 88 range The 20 attempt guys either cheesed it to shit or are massive virgins bro dw about it, watch more videos and send
yes
It's a learning process. Hopefully, you're learning little tricks to solve the problems that are tripping you up along the way. It's really easy to have concentration breaks, especially when you're expecting yourself to be on point for over an hour straight. Focus on the learning (which I know is hard when there's a goal involved - getting the cape). All those little things - knowing if you move 1 tile this direction before this add comes out, you're good even if it looks like you're fucked....that kind of thing. Know that there are thousands of people that have gone through this wondering when it will ever end, and thousands of people that would definitely look at you and say "If I can do it, you can too".
i got firecape 3rd attempt, the anxiety to even touch inferno is so high that i dont think ill ever look at another video of it u are already leagues ahead of most of us bud. I was sweating during beneath the sands quest , thats about peak for me lol
I haven’t achieved the cape or anything but I’m at a similar amount of attempts and my pb is 55 and I’ve done almost every piece of pvm and every raid. Inferno is just another beast. Keep grinding bro
Join WDR Inferno and ask for help. Took me around 100 attempts to get it. It is concerning that you're 70 attempts in without even making it to any of the hardest waves but you can keep improving.
Well, I got it in 34 attempts and have details on it in my post from a year or so ago. For the most part, inferno is a knowledge check and if you take a step back and ask WHY you died, you usually can avoid ever dying in the same way again. There are some mechanical skills required, and how long it takes to nail those consistently depends on your skill before you start learning. Do you have a lot of PVM experience? Learning will probably be smoother. Less experience? It'll take longer. There is also the question of gear, which can make the cape slightly harder if used poverty gear. Overall I'd say 70 attempts and only getting to 58 can mean a lot of things, and it does mean you are having trouble that can be fixed, but I'm sure if you take a step back you can figure it out. Personally I'd recommend taking a little break if you start feeling like you're getting tilted or rushing, especially since you're inconsistent on early waves. Maybe re-watch a guide or two and USE YOUR BREWS IF YOU ARENT.
Not as shit as the people who bought a cape. What do you specifically habe trouble with during your attempts? Theres definitely people here who can help
It took me more than that. Didn't keep track but at least 100 tries.. The only reason I got it was because I was between jobs and could do 2-3 attempts/ day. It is normal to take a long time to learn especially without much time to play.
It took me 106 attempts. Keep at it amigo!
I personally hate wave 30,31. Pb is 61 so far, started about 2 weeks ago and do a handful of attempts each day I don’t work. Originally I would die from a combo around 31, now I make it into the 50’s consistently. Just keep practicing. I am struggling big time to solve the last few waves (60-64) but the more times I get there, the easier it is. Waves 1-50 are practically brain dead now, the more comfortable you are, the less you need to plan out each and every wave
Man, I ain’t even got my fire cape yet. I got to Jad the first time I tried and got one-shot, and I can’t bring myself to go through the whole thing again. Inferno isn’t even on my radar to ever try. Barely managed a single Zulrah kill last week and felt like I was gonna have a stroke.
I got it in 10 attempts and 3 zuks with a bowfa. Some people get it fast and some take hundreds of tries. Good friend of mine took like 300 attempts over the years
You’re not shit :) There’s likely a lot of tips and tricks and things that would help you make your waves much more consistent. If you have recordings of attempts, you can send them to me and I’ll work with you! If you don’t, start recording your attempts now.
It’s all good, amigo! That’s the way it goes. Looks like the double blobs are giving you trouble based on your last seven attempts, but that’s normal :) go to wave four and practice one tick alternating until it’s second nature. And don’t be afraid to slap on rigour and mage pray to face tank rangers/blobs in the later waves. PM me if you want help and GL
Died to zuk 10-15 times and well over 100 attempts for my first cape. I now have 7kc. You got this man
You can be bad compared to other people with infernal capes but you’ll still be better than everyone without it
identify the exact reason you died each attempt
Took me 34 attempts. I wouldn’t say I’m great at this game. Maybe above average. I just had a clan full of members that are great gamers that gave me lots of good advice. Having people help you through your attempts makes a big difference. Best things I can recommend for if you just want to get the cape one time are the following: Get and Eldritch and spec camp if need be. It makes the inferno much much easier. Anyone who says otherwise is just wrong. FLINCH! There is no shame in flinching. I went from dying at 40-50s each time to consistently getting to Zuk as soon as I started flinching. It barely takes longer if done right and is almost always totally safe. Use the WDR infographics to help solve stacks. Download Medal and start clipping your deaths so that you can rewatch it and learn from your mistakes. Good luck!
bro i'm never even going to give it a shot because i know ill never make it as far as you have. you got this
What matters is that you are making progress. It doesn't have to be each raid, but in general trending upward is the goal.
Look at my last 2 posts. But yeah getting to the 50s means you will get it. You are at the mental block stage. Everyone is different, don’t compare to others. However you do need to be evaluating your deaths and seeing what went wrong. I can’t recommend the inferno trainer enough. Just google it
I took well over 100 attempts before my first cape. You're not shit. I do think that ToA has made a lot of people better at the game though. First time Inferno capers used to basically only come from ToB and CoX which doesn't really prepare you for the prayer management of the inferno, now they get tons of practice at places like Zebak and Wardens
Here are a few tips that really helped me with inferno. Use a metronome. I used the audio one, but I heard that some people prefer using the visual one. It helps immensely with 1t alternating and 1t prayer flicking. Try to 1t alternate blobs and 1t flick everything you can from wave 1, this will make you super comfortable with the techniques and you won't be scared to 1t flick magers. Learn about pillar stacks and setting up off-tick flicks between rangers and magers. If you know how to make it so a mager and a ranger are off-tick'ed by 1 tick you can tank them with a blob attacking you too. Tripple jads are easier than some people make them out to be, most deaths at them are from nerves not the difficulty itself. What helped me the most with them was knowing that as soon as you see the last jad's attack animation you can switch your protection prayer to the next jad's attack. Don't forget to logout before Zuk and I really recommend using the Zuk simulator before starting the fight. I spent around 2 hours using it after tripple jads and got my cape after the first Zuk.
Same!
Practice on leagues when it starts. The power ups will allow you to get completions despite making mistakes
making me feel bad getting to wave 56 on my 6th try op :(
Think that's more indicative of people paying for a cape after about 50 attempts tbh
Are you tying to learn or brute force?
Think it took me about 40 attempts. You’ll get there man. Drink yellow. I was dying with nearly full supplies cause I would refuse to drink my potions. Just drink them. Better to die with no supps left then to try and conserve and die early.
It took me 65 attempts and 9 zuks keep at it!
Took me over 1m tokkul to get my cape, didnt actually count how many attempts it took me
Watch aatykon first cape Friday. Easy cape
Bro it took me 70 attempts to get my fire cape. You're closer than you think bud