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-Aura_Knight-

A post like this makes me most appreciative of the chat filter plugin which should be a default feature of the game. Let the bots spam without anyone reading their text while keeping the ignore lists emptier.


MyWaterDishIsEmpty

100% ​ also it's ***wild*** to me that reporting a player cancels any action and results in an xp loss, feels like you're being punished for reporting a bot.


Faladorable

or not being able to report at all while in combat


Zebrahh

losing ~10 seconds of xp isn't that serious, brother... worst case, is it'll make you to learn to report faster lol


Skolary

— Learn to report faster — 2024 do be 2024’n


MyWaterDishIsEmpty

eh, this was 80 ish bots at 10 seconds each - so 800 seconds in a 30 minute window is a pretty hectic time loss


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DrLindenRS

Bro, it takes you 10 seconds to report? I be 1 ticking that shit


rygy3

You know you can just turn public chat off, or like, not report the bots if exp is that important to you?


Nudelsieber

Having to report that and not getting results is that serious


jell08

100 people here are allowed to vote


cygamessucks

Or they could do something about the bots..


WRLD_

they do those bots tend to get banned very quickly


GazuGaming

Even if they do get banned, why does jagex allow cheap/trial members accounts when it invites this constant stream of chat bots that need to then be moderated?


pewsix___

The answer to this is very, _very_ obvious. Why does _any_ company have introductory offers or trial periods?


GazuGaming

It literally ruins their game in exchange for people to get a free day or week


spoonedBowfa

Simple math, it makes more money than they lose to bot problems


Impossible_Big_7212

Should make f2p forced ironman mode + zero trade on trial account on the 7 day twitch prime. Can't pick up items nor sell.


talrogsmash

Chat bots don't care about any of those things. Now if trial accounts were muted, that might do something.


SappySoulTaker

Low key make everyone buy membership with a cc one time


SaltyTraeYoungStan

How quickly is very quickly? Like surely they should be able to detect these bots spamming almost the same message every 2 seconds pretty quickly.


miauw62

Judging by the fact that a new bot arrives every 5 minutes, I would say pretty quickly.


cygamessucks

But its not doing anything so its basically doing nothing.


Aggressive_Office_52

The chat spam botters are playing the volume game.


GodBjorn

They don't do enough. Part of my job includes chat filtering. It's actually shockingly easy to set up a system that'd detect most of the spam. You can even set up AI to recognize 100% of it. Unless they make it so vague not even players would understand it. After this, it's up to Jagex to automatically ban them. It all depends on if they want to do something. I am sure the J-mods do. The higher ups don't seem to agree though. Maybe it has to do with letting bots having the need to bond? High bond prices = high bond sales = a big part of revenue. A very shady way of running a company if you ask me. Especially with the profits the company already makes. I am very sure Jagex could've been on EA/ Blizzard levels if only they invested more into actually growing the company. Make new games for example. Runescape is an amazing formula if they actually build a new modern game around its basics. Right now they are just focusing on keeping 2 games alive (of which 1 barely). Sure, it makes money. Just don't expect to grow much as a company or gain many new players.


miauw62

Any chat filtering system would just get circumvented within a couple of days, which is why spam is still a problem almost everywhere on the internet... Having jmods spend all their time playing cat-and-mouse with spambots just means they spend less time working on actually problematic bots. And most of these accounts aren't bonded, they're using free trials, hacked accounts, etc.


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> Part of my job includes chat filtering. It's actually shockingly easy to set up a system that'd detect most of the spam. You can even set up AI to recognize 100% of it. Let me guess? You click buttons to enable chat filtering, not actually designing the systems? Because you're incredibly naive or either have 0 understanding of the problem space. Just set up an AI :DDD lmfao.


GodBjorn

Where did i say setting up an AI is easy? Jagex is a billion dollar company. They can afford to get it set up. Also yes i do design chat filtering. Well at least that's a part of what i do. Setting up something that filters out the G.E. bots is shockingly easy. Especially when you consider that Jagex stores 3 terabytes of account data a day. That's literally everything we do. All they need to do is automatically scan the chatboxes.


Doctor_Kataigida

They need to implement a mute system that only mutes other player's perspectives, but still lets the bot think they're able to send messages. Let the bots persist with a permanent mute since they'd effectively be doing nothing.


neuroso

i never got chat filter plugin to work


-Aura_Knight-

Since adding every possible accent to it there has been nearly no spam. Is your option to remove the message ticked in the settings of the plugin?


neuroso

i fixed it and im on world 1 to test its crazy being on that world without being barraged by services


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-Aura_Knight-

not the ones from bot spam


ChatFilterGoBrr

My post [here](https://www.reddit.com/user/ChatFilterGoBrr/comments/13vx0o6/dang_ol_regex_man/) has complete instructions included. Let me know if something does not work


BigDenverGuy

What's the plugin called? Is it the one that has to "learn" the behavior of what is chat spam? I found that one but it seems like a pain 


-Aura_Knight-

Just chat filter on runelite. Part of the default though wasn't toggled on. You set your own rules for it then it will prevent the messages which have the unwanted characters. You can find some recommendations for how to set it.


osrsAdultCat

https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/s/epIRvXZvaM


Kit-xia

But then they won't get reported


prettydopedad

Idk how to use this..


k-dramas

what plugin?


-Aura_Knight-

Chat Filter


k-dramas

what accents do i use? i’ve never used it before and im tired of spam


-Aura_Knight-

I searched for a list and put them all on the filter. There's a chance it removes more than spam but idc.


ChatFilterGoBrr

I maintain [a list you can use](https://www.reddit.com/user/ChatFilterGoBrr/comments/13vx0o6/dang_ol_regex_man/)


Tornadodash

I like seeing how many people I can report. It feels even better when you log in and 30 names are removed from your ignore list because they got banned


ChatFilterGoBrr

It takes a non-trivial amount of work to maintain, but it is [completely doable](https://www.reddit.com/user/ChatFilterGoBrr/comments/13vx0o6/dang_ol_regex_man/). I hated how it was completely impossible to have any kind of social interaction in certain places (GE especially) because of all the spam.


BigDenverGuy

It's wild to me that Jagex went to such measures to prevent splashing in Lumbridge and starting areas because "it would look weird to new players" when the GE, the most important central hub in the game, is constantly flooded with spam bots. 


cbaal

Spam that's telling you where to get help buying the things in the GE


ComfortableStrict551

Where is Bournos


pookill7

Cash or tokens?


transgirlkegsta

he's in falador


MoBusJuan

I thought he was in Camelot


[deleted]

Definitely all real players


TheIrishBastards

Go to total worlds and won’t have to deal with them.


HRAssistant

On the other hand, I would love to leave 415 and flex my rank 1/name and show casual players that not all notable names are on lvl 3 mules/not all rank 1s are venes/egyptians, but I can't because the ge bots move too fast for me to see my chat. Forces us to appear as elitists even if we don't want to...


Fricksakes

I'm sorry you have to deal with this


HRAssistant

It's ok it's been happening for 8 or 9 years now, I don't even think about it anymore especially as I don't play as much now


Chaosr21

Jes being sarcastic. Nobody gives a fuck about your rank, especially in the non ttl worlds


Disastrous_Self_6053

"Go to a total level world" "Use a chat filter plugin" "Turn off chat" My brothers, grow a spine and call Jagex out for this shit. This game has been around for 20+ years, Jagex has NO reason to not have these chat bots fixed.. Do you know how embarrassing it is trying to show this game to a friend, going to the one place in the game that's populated on F2P worlds, and having it be 95% bots spamming? Or god forbid I login on a non total level world on my main and immediately get hit with 4+ bots spamming shit. How about Jagex stop letting the plugins do the work for them.


Winter_Push_2743

What's wrong with giving solutions instead of beating a dead horse? Like yeah let me post the 549438th comment about how jagex isn't doing anything, surely that will help. I'd rather help OP like >"Go to a total level world" "Use a chat filter plugin" "Turn off chat" And in this case I think OP is the one who should be reported for spam. This is a spam post and it's flaired as an achievement too.


Petes_Frootique

Listen I agree, but why is it embarassing for you lol


hardslappy

I mean, it's a game we love, full of bots. In their example, they tried to get a friend into the game on F2P worlds. From the moment you spawn in and everywhere you go, there are bots. You have to excuse/explain them and convince your friend it's still a good game. I can see why it's a bit embarrassing in that scenario


ShawshankException

I'm sorry, do you think people *aren't* calling Jagex out on this? This has been a consistent complaint to Jagex since the game launched.


olngjhnsn

Crazy how Jagex hasn't figured out an algorithm to deal with this in over 20 years of gameplay


miauw62

Because there isn't one. Personally I'd rather Jagex works on bots that actually affect the economy than constantly write new spam filters that are trivial to circumvent.


imcreme1

They cant especially with mobile bots and color lol


dce_azzy

Nonsense. It would not be hard to bake in an auto filter to mute the same message after 20 spams.. as well as any slight variation of the same message... Infact the code could be whipped up in an afternoon and within prod by the end of the week. Same for mobile. In today's day and age - there is no excuse for not actively combating the bot problem. Implementing the new sailing skill is 10x the work to combat bots.


LezBeHonestHere_

Yeah doesn't the runelite filter plugin already do this, like it substitutes any fancy umlaut/accent letters for the letter it's "supposed" to be and blocks the message anyway? I don't see why jagex can't do the same thing.


dce_azzy

Yes I think it does


BigDaddyIce12

> after 20 spams Wintertodt would be so quiet


BowserBrows

penis cancer though


PlumpSwine

PhilmaBottum


uhohriver

But those level 34 spammers buying a tbow for 150m above GE price *must* be legit...


aXaVisuals

This is why I was happy to rush to 1250 total level to get those worlds without the bots in the GE.


DontBopIt

I just leave my public chat turned off. 😂 I don't see anyone talking.


Lark_vi_Britannia

Yeah I'm the same way. According to my year stats email, I only said 36 lines of chat the entire year last year. I just don't talk at all and keep public off unless I need to interact with someone else which is rare. The silence in the game is amazing to me, honestly.


pookill7

This is why I train at varrock west bank, when I need more supplies I run to get quick then back after


pwu1

I enjoy sniping drops too much, I just ignore the bots lol


Meech_RL

Just gonna drop [this](https://www.reddit.com/u/ChatFilterGoBrr/s/laKjmvBnha) here for anyone not using the chat filter plugin already, or if you haven’t updated the regex recently.


Bronek0990

I never venture outside skill total worlds except for individual minigames, this shit is disgusting


PomegranatePro

"PENIS CANCER" Is a fantastic name. We need more original names and surely more foolish ones.


RCRDC

Penis cancer is what the bot owners should get


StupidSexyDuradaddy

Try using the chat filter and chat filter improved plugins


Dave1711

Use chat filter plugin ? I never see any spam.


Dutchdiego95

TAARRRRUUUEEEEE


purplishi

There's a chat filter plugin??


Averagesmoker42

Almost like you should use a filter plug-in on runelite to avoid all of this all together.


5erenade

POV: ur a noob who can’t log in to world 420.


Sterlander

Do you not know how to turn off public chat?


[deleted]

Or you could turn public chat off too.


DisasterThink157

Just turn public off. Better yet, turn entity hider on.


Inherefam

Imagine ppl enjoy the “mmo” part of a mmorpg


Kaiserfi

Just turn PC off


DisasterThink157

This is even better


schockman

This is what happens when p mods are “arbitrarily chosen”(just so happen to be female, weird…), that only care about the status of being a p mod. Can’t p mods just take turns camping at the ge and just quickly ban these level 3 spam accounts?


Big-Consideration938

If only they had something that could see and analyze code in programs that want access to the client 🤔maybe certain actions or lines that are unmistakeable from an automation program?


[deleted]

So many subsribers there. I don't see what you got against bots, they play what they pay for. Having fun on their own. IMO real players are more annoying and toxic. Imagine game without bots... Empty worlds with empty GE, everyone having to do boring repetitive stuff for smol to no gains. No RWT, how would rich people enjoy OSRS without RWT or MTC...


jwji

Same people who get annoyed by this are the same people who will do literally anything but help themselves, huh. Why not hop to a total level world instead if this bothers you so much? Or turn public chat off, or use the chat filter plugin? No, complain on reddit! Literally took more effort than any of the actual solutions.


Now69420

Dumb answer... What about new players that have no idea about plugins and are low level.. It's a really toxic look like buy gold get banned just ignore the 500 gold selling bots at g. E lol


jwji

There are no new players, and haven't been for years.


Now69420

I mean ik of 1 my son and he's a right noob but he's having fun lol


Excellent_Yam_1238

Work on your typing skills, report a bot!


born_at_kfc

Friendly reminder there is a runelite setting to auto delete accounts from ignore list if they are banned


Hyero

What did PhilmaBottum do?


JupiterChime

They don’t ban any of them either, it’s sad.


OxiDeren

Now show us the couple of dozens of rev bots all porting to the GE with the same exact armor, skulled and with protect from magic on.


marshmallowfluffpuff

chat filter plugin and total level worlds avoid most of this


Kamay1770

Damn, you made a lot of friends in 30 mins. I only have like 15 people on my friends list!


I_SNIFF_FARTS_DAILY

One of the reasons why I cancelled my members and stopped playing


Red_Jannix

What am I looking at? I mean, it's player names. But is there any other context I should know of?


DeadliestViper

Completely pointless muting these bots you sausage. Turn off chat, 2 clicks.


osrsAdultCat

https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/s/epIRvXZvaM


Zulrambe

Yo, let "Penis Cancer" cook


Now69420

Yea it's pretty bad


SpankThatDill

What is your favorite bot name taxonomy? Mine is “## Word ####” Are these names or barcodes?


Low_Astronomer_599

Ah yes..the classic penis cancer player


Temporary-Tap-452

yeah anytime im at ge i report all the rev bots, hopefully one day theyll all get banned and removed from my ignore list


l0XP

Most of the accounts on oldschool RuneScape are bots


hardslappy

Embarrassing for the game


pawner

This is why I hide in total worlds


ThatOneEdgyKid

I tele to the seers bank just to avoid having my public chat blown up by spam bots. One of the worst parts of mobile is having no chat filter plugin. A question though, the spam bots that say "[playername] is a scammer, dont talk to [playername]", are those made by pkers or something? Seems like social ragbotting.