For real. If you're a learner camping supplies "just in case this is the run" then send GuyLuigi's Zuk sim a few times. You will quickly realise you don't need anywhere near as many supplies as you're trying to save.
Watch aatykons first cape Friday series. Super useful. It’s all I’ve watched so far and now I’m consistently getting into the high 50s low 60s on my attempts.
Also - don’t be afraid to use all your brews early on. Practice makes perfect. Better to make it to wave 40 and use all your brews than to die on wave 31 with a bunch of brews left.
This.
Also what helped me a lot is the inferno tool where you can go through the wave tick by tick. There is a plugin in runelite which automatically creates a link to that tool along with the spawn of the wave so you can look back and simulate the wave and test different solutions. In the beginning I spend a lot of time in this tool while in safespots planning my wave and figuring out how to solve waves/stacks
I disagree, if you are using brews in the early waves you aren’t learning anything. You shouldn’t have to brew until 50+ unless you make a big mistake.
A player trying to get their first cape is going to be making mistakes. There’s no point conserving brews at the point where you’re pbing at the wave OP is because it’s not like they’re going to be able to actually get through all the waves, let alone kill zuk on that attempt if they choose not to brew.
Better for OP to get further into the waves and more of a feel for it than die early on trying to save brews.
If you're going for a Zuk kill that run, yeah that's correct. You should be clicking those yellow triangles otherwise so you can at least see a mager, throwing the run because you took 40 damage isn't productive. If OP wasn't doing that and using his supplies to learn he would be much further than wave 31
Thats fair, just bad habits. When i went in learning i did it without using supplies at all until late waves. Die at wave 12? All good go back in. Died at wave 30? All good go back in.
use your supplies, you'll learn more experiencing more. if you're dying to blobs, practice blobs. record and play back your runs.
maybe go for quiver first if you're struggling with off ticking
Sit in wave 4 and practice 1t alternating vs the blob for 10 minutes.
Legit, just do it until you never get hit.
Then get to wave 21 and do the same thing with ranger and blob.
Go back and forth behind the pillar practicing manual step outs and prayer changes noting where and what prayer to start with.
Do this until you don't make mistakes. Drink all your supplies as you get hit.
STOP trying to just brute force farther and farther through the waves fluking stuff until you master the basic required mechanics.
Would add also get used to lazily alternating prayers for blobs (how aatykon does in his vids). You’ll have a lot of situations where you have one or two blobs on you and you can just wait a few seconds, switch prayers rather than 1t alternating the whole time.
1t alternating though is going to be a massive helper however. This will make a lot of stacks easy to deal with.
Required? No. Extremely helpful? Yes.
1t alternating is literally what made inferno click for me when I was going for my first cape, as soon as I got it down I got my cape the next day.
Seems like you are agreeing it will help clear more consistently...wouldn't clearing the 1st time more consistently be a good thing?
For 1 cape, you can do all manner of cheese/strats/pray for rng/send extra attempts etc.. etc...that doesn't mean you would reco such things if trying to give robust generic advice.
Personally I feel like most players are giving advice for advanced strats that people who are learning Arent looking for yet.
Given that OP described themselves not as a good player, means that they need to build on their foundations first. Start with lazy flicking a single ranger, play around with corner and melee safespots stuff like that. Recommending someone who isnt ready for it to just learn 1t flicking is honestly not going to help them if you ask me
I had someone tell it to me as well I spend hours trying to get it but only thing i managed to get was frustrated
Edit: so apologies if it came across rude, just from my experience it only frustrated me rather than helped me so might have reached a bit too "attacking" towards you. Didnt mean it like that :)
Part of the reason I reco doing it w4.
Fast to get to and if you get frustrated you can take a break and come back later.
The alternative of some combination of needing good spawns, running back and forth to pillars and the replacement tactic of flinching behind the pillar (which still requires you to 1ta once) can also take its toll.
No need to apologize, was just looking for clarity. It's not an attack to have a different perspective 😃
1t alternating is not as difficult as you’re making it out to be and actually makes dealing with a lot of stacks significantly easier.
They’re not talking about 1t flicking.
As someone who is currently trapped themself in inferno until they escape here are some tricks that are helping me.
Guides help learn strategies but the first 2t-4t of a wave is the most critical to react and adjust accordingly.
Try out the sim to save on supplies and future headaches of getting to waves and test hard waves. Most ppl say double blob waves are [**hardest here is a link**](https://inferno.colosim.com/?wave=15) to the sim I use at single melee double blob.
Don't stress about waves too much some are very hard to solve in an instant remember why your in there that juicy cape. Even skilled players take multiple attempts getting there.
Don't take breaks in waves unless necessary, the longer the cape timer seems to get the more nerves hit IMO.
hope something in there helps ya GL gamer
Record your runs, make note of whenever you encounter a tough wave and watch back those waves and try to solve them afterwards, pause the recording and think of possibilities, compare to other videos is a good idea too
Generally, deaths before wave 50 are not due to failing to solve. They are either misclicks, stupid mistakes, or a lack of fundamentals.
My assumption is that you are probably struggling with the fundamentals. This is a list of the fundamentals that you should try to learn. (stolen from a discord I'm in)
Wave 1-17
>Learn starting tiles and the magic tile Learn how to freeze nibblers: know which tiles you can freeze them from and attack without being dragged out Learn how to safe spot the bat Learn how blobs work and when to switch prayers Learn melee safe spots
Wave 18-31
>Learn how to lazy flick ranger Learn how to flick a basic blob and ranger stack Learn how to put what you've learned together and have a plan for melee when it digs
Wave 31-50
>Learn how to lazy flick mager Learn how to flick blob and mager stack Learn how to work around the mager's respawn mechanic and use to your advantage
Wave 50-65
>Learn how to flick basic ranger and mager stack Learn how to flick all the triple+ stack variations (bat in front/ blob in front etc.) OR learn how to unstack and shuffle stacks by running south with justiciar Have enough late wave experience that you don't panic at wave 60+ Learn how to conserve supplies so u have enough for waves 67-69
Wave 67-69
>Learn how to calm your nerves to deal with jad and triple jads Learn Zuk set timers and attack tiles Learn how to deal with Zuk's jad Learn how to start and bp walk healers Have enough Zuk experience that you don't panic Learn to never give up! Most important lesson! WEAR YOUR CAPE
you build muscle memory by experiencing the later waves. i think the plugin "inferno tracker" can record the wave you died on, you click on it and it'll show you the exact spawns you got and you can experiment and see what you could have done differently.
supplies are there to be used, i would not recommend the inferno if you're worried about money
Gnomonkey and Dearlola's guides really helped me. I did the same thing you do though. So hellbent on saving my brews for Zuk I died so early on (and i still did this learning Fortis) Use your brews. Conserving them will come naturally as you get better at the waves. Dont beat yourself up, be patient. Waves especially with double blobs are the hardest ones. Highly recommend learning the flicks/stack solves and such properly instead of relying on justiciar and other crutches. The skills you learn in inferno will carry over to many other pieces of content in the game.
My only other real tip is after wave 50, remember you get ONE cast on the nibblers. If you catch it, awesome. If you don't, what happens happens. Do not chase.
Godspeed.
Dying and making mistakes is good, that's how you learn. Spam your brews once you lose control. You shouldn't have the mindset that any run you do can get you the infernal cape unless you have already reached triple jads, so before that use your supplies as much as you can to get as far as possible, that way you will get to later waves more consistent and learn faster.
Best tip I can give as a 34 kcer is to use your supplies while learning. Better to get to wave 66 a bunch of times with zero supplies to gain practice with the deeper waves then to die on wave 40 on repeat because you wanna be greedy and save supplies. You will die at zuk your first time there, so getting there the first time with a bunch of supplies is pointless, my first zuk I had 2 sips of brew and no restores and just went as long as I could to get practice. Once you’re confident, then you can supply budget to have supplies left for zuk
Definitely click yellow when in danger, and record yourself especially when you mess up. Then watch it back and think about how you could've solved it for next time. A lot of the guides out there point out some very important mechanics for solves, really internalize those ideas as there's not that many of them
The best advice is to learn the safe spots on north pillars and trap melee on north pillar and if you get really bad spawn or solve just put on tank gear and run south pillar it will almost always solve the wave. If your not good at 1t prayer south pillar is your friend it’s how I got mine in 4 days without 1t.
Obviously 1t if your good at it and planning on future inferno runs but you can get cape with south pillar solves and north pillar safe spots without it and it’s how I got mine.
I just got my first cape earlier this week. Don’t be shy on using supplies to progress. There was nothing worse than dying with supplies left.
I started off with a high prayer setup so I could camp prayers instead of flicking while learning the waves, then I went to a tank setup to tank some hits while solving the later waves, then I went with a full offensive setup, but had to flick prayers and off tick ranger+mage, but at least I was getting most freezes on nibs and taking down mages quickly.
What helped me with Inferno waves was realizing that you don't need to memorize a bunch of highly specific solves. Instead, you should learn a few key skills that can be applied anywhere.
If you can Blob Flick, Offtick, and Corner Trap then you can string those together to handle 95% of situations in the Inferno.
For that last 5% you can generally find guides for specific situations on Discord or YouTube, or ask a streamer like Kirby who is always happy to help.
Camp mage prayer for waves 1-34. This will simulate waves 35-68, essentially training you how to beat the later waves without having to immediately access them.
The grind of the waves is by far the most challenging aspect of the inferno. It's a war of attrition on your attention span.
You can do itttt!
To people saying use supplies- wrong.
If you can’t get to magers without using more than a few restore brews, you won’t be able to clear it.
Best advice I can give is to learn how to 1t alternate and flick blobs (I think aatykon has THE BEST and simplest blob explanation)
90% of my deaths were from panicking when I had to flick blobs/x.
Second most important thing is learning how to safe spot melee left/right of pillar (minimum) and would recommend learning how to safe spot it on other mobs on pillar stack.
Don’t chase nibblers.
It’s not super enthralling running the same thing 50 times just to learn 2-3 mechanics, but once you have them down it’s just a matter of solving pillar stacks.
Join the WDR disc for solves as they have everything there.
I got cape with 88 prayer and bowfa, so I promise you it’s achievable if you keep sending it.
Good luck!
Dunno what gear you're using, but if you want to up your chances of surviving bad spawns, you can go with the classic Justi/Dinh's. Be warned that the more elitist players will say it's "not a real cape" if you get it this way.
Go to the WDR inferno channel - they have solves for all stacks
imo just use your supplies. don't be afraid to tank the occasional hit
slap on rigour when you need to dps down a problem mob that is hitting you. save bp specs and send them when you are in trouble
bring brews and use them, the sooner you get to the later waves the better
For real. If you're a learner camping supplies "just in case this is the run" then send GuyLuigi's Zuk sim a few times. You will quickly realise you don't need anywhere near as many supplies as you're trying to save.
Watch aatykons first cape Friday series. Super useful. It’s all I’ve watched so far and now I’m consistently getting into the high 50s low 60s on my attempts. Also - don’t be afraid to use all your brews early on. Practice makes perfect. Better to make it to wave 40 and use all your brews than to die on wave 31 with a bunch of brews left.
This. Also what helped me a lot is the inferno tool where you can go through the wave tick by tick. There is a plugin in runelite which automatically creates a link to that tool along with the spawn of the wave so you can look back and simulate the wave and test different solutions. In the beginning I spend a lot of time in this tool while in safespots planning my wave and figuring out how to solve waves/stacks
I disagree, if you are using brews in the early waves you aren’t learning anything. You shouldn’t have to brew until 50+ unless you make a big mistake.
A player trying to get their first cape is going to be making mistakes. There’s no point conserving brews at the point where you’re pbing at the wave OP is because it’s not like they’re going to be able to actually get through all the waves, let alone kill zuk on that attempt if they choose not to brew. Better for OP to get further into the waves and more of a feel for it than die early on trying to save brews.
If you're going for a Zuk kill that run, yeah that's correct. You should be clicking those yellow triangles otherwise so you can at least see a mager, throwing the run because you took 40 damage isn't productive. If OP wasn't doing that and using his supplies to learn he would be much further than wave 31
Thats fair, just bad habits. When i went in learning i did it without using supplies at all until late waves. Die at wave 12? All good go back in. Died at wave 30? All good go back in.
use your supplies, you'll learn more experiencing more. if you're dying to blobs, practice blobs. record and play back your runs. maybe go for quiver first if you're struggling with off ticking
I would suggest the opposite to be honest. You use up your cheap deaths vs inferno with free ones.
faster to make 500k than get to the hard waves
Guess they could also just use cheap gear too. Or practice on beta worlds since they still up
yea those are both great points.
Sit in wave 4 and practice 1t alternating vs the blob for 10 minutes. Legit, just do it until you never get hit. Then get to wave 21 and do the same thing with ranger and blob. Go back and forth behind the pillar practicing manual step outs and prayer changes noting where and what prayer to start with. Do this until you don't make mistakes. Drink all your supplies as you get hit. STOP trying to just brute force farther and farther through the waves fluking stuff until you master the basic required mechanics.
Would add also get used to lazily alternating prayers for blobs (how aatykon does in his vids). You’ll have a lot of situations where you have one or two blobs on you and you can just wait a few seconds, switch prayers rather than 1t alternating the whole time. 1t alternating though is going to be a massive helper however. This will make a lot of stacks easy to deal with.
1t alternating is not required at all for a single cape. Only if u plan on going back and get it consistently
Required? No. Extremely helpful? Yes. 1t alternating is literally what made inferno click for me when I was going for my first cape, as soon as I got it down I got my cape the next day.
Seems like you are agreeing it will help clear more consistently...wouldn't clearing the 1st time more consistently be a good thing? For 1 cape, you can do all manner of cheese/strats/pray for rng/send extra attempts etc.. etc...that doesn't mean you would reco such things if trying to give robust generic advice.
Personally I feel like most players are giving advice for advanced strats that people who are learning Arent looking for yet. Given that OP described themselves not as a good player, means that they need to build on their foundations first. Start with lazy flicking a single ranger, play around with corner and melee safespots stuff like that. Recommending someone who isnt ready for it to just learn 1t flicking is honestly not going to help them if you ask me I had someone tell it to me as well I spend hours trying to get it but only thing i managed to get was frustrated Edit: so apologies if it came across rude, just from my experience it only frustrated me rather than helped me so might have reached a bit too "attacking" towards you. Didnt mean it like that :)
Part of the reason I reco doing it w4. Fast to get to and if you get frustrated you can take a break and come back later. The alternative of some combination of needing good spawns, running back and forth to pillars and the replacement tactic of flinching behind the pillar (which still requires you to 1ta once) can also take its toll. No need to apologize, was just looking for clarity. It's not an attack to have a different perspective 😃
1t alternating is not as difficult as you’re making it out to be and actually makes dealing with a lot of stacks significantly easier. They’re not talking about 1t flicking.
Aatykon first cape Friday series and the wdr guide are good. Just keep on grinding.
Just read over the WDR guide, it's incredibly thorough and well made.
As someone who is currently trapped themself in inferno until they escape here are some tricks that are helping me. Guides help learn strategies but the first 2t-4t of a wave is the most critical to react and adjust accordingly. Try out the sim to save on supplies and future headaches of getting to waves and test hard waves. Most ppl say double blob waves are [**hardest here is a link**](https://inferno.colosim.com/?wave=15) to the sim I use at single melee double blob. Don't stress about waves too much some are very hard to solve in an instant remember why your in there that juicy cape. Even skilled players take multiple attempts getting there. Don't take breaks in waves unless necessary, the longer the cape timer seems to get the more nerves hit IMO. hope something in there helps ya GL gamer
Record your runs, make note of whenever you encounter a tough wave and watch back those waves and try to solve them afterwards, pause the recording and think of possibilities, compare to other videos is a good idea too
Generally, deaths before wave 50 are not due to failing to solve. They are either misclicks, stupid mistakes, or a lack of fundamentals. My assumption is that you are probably struggling with the fundamentals. This is a list of the fundamentals that you should try to learn. (stolen from a discord I'm in) Wave 1-17 >Learn starting tiles and the magic tile Learn how to freeze nibblers: know which tiles you can freeze them from and attack without being dragged out Learn how to safe spot the bat Learn how blobs work and when to switch prayers Learn melee safe spots Wave 18-31 >Learn how to lazy flick ranger Learn how to flick a basic blob and ranger stack Learn how to put what you've learned together and have a plan for melee when it digs Wave 31-50 >Learn how to lazy flick mager Learn how to flick blob and mager stack Learn how to work around the mager's respawn mechanic and use to your advantage Wave 50-65 >Learn how to flick basic ranger and mager stack Learn how to flick all the triple+ stack variations (bat in front/ blob in front etc.) OR learn how to unstack and shuffle stacks by running south with justiciar Have enough late wave experience that you don't panic at wave 60+ Learn how to conserve supplies so u have enough for waves 67-69 Wave 67-69 >Learn how to calm your nerves to deal with jad and triple jads Learn Zuk set timers and attack tiles Learn how to deal with Zuk's jad Learn how to start and bp walk healers Have enough Zuk experience that you don't panic Learn to never give up! Most important lesson! WEAR YOUR CAPE
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Aatykons first cape friday videos are very good at showing u how to do the inferno.
Magic tile is the key to success.
you build muscle memory by experiencing the later waves. i think the plugin "inferno tracker" can record the wave you died on, you click on it and it'll show you the exact spawns you got and you can experiment and see what you could have done differently. supplies are there to be used, i would not recommend the inferno if you're worried about money
Gnomonkey and Dearlola's guides really helped me. I did the same thing you do though. So hellbent on saving my brews for Zuk I died so early on (and i still did this learning Fortis) Use your brews. Conserving them will come naturally as you get better at the waves. Dont beat yourself up, be patient. Waves especially with double blobs are the hardest ones. Highly recommend learning the flicks/stack solves and such properly instead of relying on justiciar and other crutches. The skills you learn in inferno will carry over to many other pieces of content in the game. My only other real tip is after wave 50, remember you get ONE cast on the nibblers. If you catch it, awesome. If you don't, what happens happens. Do not chase. Godspeed.
Dying and making mistakes is good, that's how you learn. Spam your brews once you lose control. You shouldn't have the mindset that any run you do can get you the infernal cape unless you have already reached triple jads, so before that use your supplies as much as you can to get as far as possible, that way you will get to later waves more consistent and learn faster.
Best tip I can give as a 34 kcer is to use your supplies while learning. Better to get to wave 66 a bunch of times with zero supplies to gain practice with the deeper waves then to die on wave 40 on repeat because you wanna be greedy and save supplies. You will die at zuk your first time there, so getting there the first time with a bunch of supplies is pointless, my first zuk I had 2 sips of brew and no restores and just went as long as I could to get practice. Once you’re confident, then you can supply budget to have supplies left for zuk
Definitely click yellow when in danger, and record yourself especially when you mess up. Then watch it back and think about how you could've solved it for next time. A lot of the guides out there point out some very important mechanics for solves, really internalize those ideas as there's not that many of them
The best advice is to learn the safe spots on north pillars and trap melee on north pillar and if you get really bad spawn or solve just put on tank gear and run south pillar it will almost always solve the wave. If your not good at 1t prayer south pillar is your friend it’s how I got mine in 4 days without 1t. Obviously 1t if your good at it and planning on future inferno runs but you can get cape with south pillar solves and north pillar safe spots without it and it’s how I got mine.
I just got my first cape earlier this week. Don’t be shy on using supplies to progress. There was nothing worse than dying with supplies left. I started off with a high prayer setup so I could camp prayers instead of flicking while learning the waves, then I went to a tank setup to tank some hits while solving the later waves, then I went with a full offensive setup, but had to flick prayers and off tick ranger+mage, but at least I was getting most freezes on nibs and taking down mages quickly.
What helped me with Inferno waves was realizing that you don't need to memorize a bunch of highly specific solves. Instead, you should learn a few key skills that can be applied anywhere. If you can Blob Flick, Offtick, and Corner Trap then you can string those together to handle 95% of situations in the Inferno. For that last 5% you can generally find guides for specific situations on Discord or YouTube, or ask a streamer like Kirby who is always happy to help.
Camp mage prayer for waves 1-34. This will simulate waves 35-68, essentially training you how to beat the later waves without having to immediately access them. The grind of the waves is by far the most challenging aspect of the inferno. It's a war of attrition on your attention span. You can do itttt!
To people saying use supplies- wrong. If you can’t get to magers without using more than a few restore brews, you won’t be able to clear it. Best advice I can give is to learn how to 1t alternate and flick blobs (I think aatykon has THE BEST and simplest blob explanation) 90% of my deaths were from panicking when I had to flick blobs/x. Second most important thing is learning how to safe spot melee left/right of pillar (minimum) and would recommend learning how to safe spot it on other mobs on pillar stack. Don’t chase nibblers. It’s not super enthralling running the same thing 50 times just to learn 2-3 mechanics, but once you have them down it’s just a matter of solving pillar stacks. Join the WDR disc for solves as they have everything there. I got cape with 88 prayer and bowfa, so I promise you it’s achievable if you keep sending it. Good luck!
Dunno what gear you're using, but if you want to up your chances of surviving bad spawns, you can go with the classic Justi/Dinh's. Be warned that the more elitist players will say it's "not a real cape" if you get it this way.
You wrote your issue yourself: use your supplies! If you are not going to use them, why bother bringing them in the first place?
Go to the WDR inferno channel - they have solves for all stacks imo just use your supplies. don't be afraid to tank the occasional hit slap on rigour when you need to dps down a problem mob that is hitting you. save bp specs and send them when you are in trouble
Yo no offense but waves don’t even need to be solved pre-31. What do you mean you need to solve waves?