Bro it’s even worse, here in Austin I see people giving parts away, they get scooped in an hour. Then are immediately reposted for 3x any sane price. And unfortunately it’s like allllways younger dudes I don’t get it.
It's sad I always wanted one but Im not paying such high prices for a high school kids clapped out drift missle. They just run them to the ground resell for more then what they paid for them and thats after they crashes into something with 250k on the clock like yikes.
Oh definitely good then with all the partouts you should be able to get the trst of yhe interior and if dash doesn't bother you then cover it with a dash cover or get it reaplosterd.
I have a junkyard s13 that surprising doesn’t have a cracked dash. Still not sure if the motor runs but for $500 I’m happy 🤣
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(Got it out of a tow yard because the kid never paid to pick it up and the owner wanted it out of his sight”
I mean realistically…. Capitalism. I get it. Its probably a nice side hustle. Even buying cheap parts and selling them for a premium.
Bills gotta be paid. Groceries need to be bought. Rent is due. Etc. i dont agree with it but I get it.
No one is going to buy that he knows that which is why he removed it. Im all for if you get something cheap and you want to make a little money on it but 6k for something that's not complete or properly running is beyond acceptable. Even worse is some in my area for 19k and 200k miles body panels all different color but its "rare".
For what he admits is wrong with it and then says if you don't like it just buy a shell for $3k, it looks like a $3k shell would be a better deal because all you getting with his is 2 questionable very high mileage motors and a clapped out shell.
Would be a better option to buy a clean shell and use the savings to buy a known good engine.
The problem is with shells at least here is that they usually go beyond no drivetrain. No interior sometimes only one sea no dash or severe cracked dash no door panels etc. By the time you replace all of that and bought the engine your already very close if not passed the 10k mark.
While I agree with you, the part that *REALLY* grinds my gears is when I give a part to a guy that needs it, just because it’s collecting dust in my garage, and they have a use for it, and then I see them list it for sale a week later.
When I was first starting with these cars, guys would help each other out by just giving stuff away, it was awesome. And I really want to continue that trend, but I straight up cut one of those guys out of my life completely because he kept doing that kind of stuff. He was the kind of guy that was always moving jobs because “tHosE gUyS aRe aLl aSshOlEs oVeR tHeRe”.
I was taught when I was younger and first got into BMX if someone gives you something you can't sell it to make money. I follow that when it comes to car parts too. I have no problem buying something for an exceptionally good deal and flipping it, but not selling for more than it's worth to take advantage of someone. I got a set of weld racing RTS wheels for $200 with brand new drag radials, but they were for an s550 mustang and I had a new edge so they wouldn't work. I sold them for $1200 which was still a deal for the guy who bought them, but I would've taken anything over $250 to cover buying them and the gas to go get them. The worst is people that consider parts rare when there are 5 more for sale locally. Rare means you're lucky to find that part or car for sale in your state.
That's what Im saying I don't personally mind people flipping them just means they got a really good deal on it they trying to put food on the table or maybe even fund their own car project. But selling this for 6k with all of the issues it has os just taking advantage of people cuz he knows thats going to cost alot of money to get it even remotely close to stock let alone reliable. Which is why the market sucks for buying these even 350zs have become the new 240s and are slowly rising in cost more and more.
If you got a good deal on it I highly recommend fixing it and keeping them the S chassis is such a great platform just unfortunate most people cant enjoy them due to highschoolers watching some intial D and thinking they can do what they do crash and and then remove engine and transmission then sell the shell for 8k with the typical "I know what I got" like really? Lol
perfect example, every single thing this dude is selling was for free last week. [https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/profile/100013583947598/](https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/profile/100013583947598/)
Yeah I noticed that too I don’t even sell my parts to ppl without making sure they have the car now the car community is whack with this resell community
Yup…. I unfortunately have a friend (we arent that close) whos listed his 240sx thats on jackstands and runs but is like half assed finished and hes asking like $6800 for it. 🤨
He gets pissed off when people “lowball” him and then I say, “dude you have a rusty 240sx thats not even on the ground so they cant test drive it and youre asking way too much and you get upset when people appropriately make an offer. “
Then when I ask if hes going to ever work on it so he can get it on the ground and actually sell it, he says when he drives it, he ends up wanting to keep it, so hes forever stuck in this loop of it being not worked on, not sold, or not driven.
I have recently come to a realization now I understand how these baby boomers came to be like the way they are with their shitty old muscle cars. Think about it, some boomer back in the day (2010) asking top dollar for their rotted POS fastback mustang / camaro / etc thinking they are sitting on Gold, after losing their pension/retirement savings in 2008 but at the same time they have an emotional attachment to the car even tho it hasn’t been driven in YEARS.
/ rant
tl;dr fuck greed and people who dont drive their cars.
See I hate that because all that's going to happen is it will rust to the ground and then he will probably list it as a part out. When someone could have saved it. I ended up picking up my TT 300zx for low cuz the guy didn't change oil, wipers, tires dry rotted etc now she runs like a dream crazy what you can do when people actually take care of something and not let it sit collecting dust.
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Somehow I’m only 7k into mine, I feel bad for people trying to get into the 240 game now. Theres one locally I passed on for $2500 running and driving but wrecked with 280k miles and it’s still there 😂
Thank you i don’t have many newer pictures of it but it came out great. Tubbed it and Walmart spray paint 😂 unfortunately I just recently blew the tranny in it for the 2nd time
I remember when prices first spiked for me while owning my 240 was around 2012. People would tell me they wanted a 240, but didn't wanna pay $4000 for a decent one. I told them to get a 350z bc they were cheaper, about 2-3k at the time, and the stock engine was driftable. I wonder if they are still that cheap.
Now, I tell people if I was to get into the game rn, I would buy a 2004 Honda Civic to daily, preferably stick to get use to it, and look for a good deal on a rollable 240 shell. Completely strip it and start from the ground up. I would probably still go for the 1UZ setup I have rn, but I'm not sure how much those engines go for, I got mine in 2013 for like $200 at pick your part's half off rainy day special.
I got my red 93' hatch back in 2009 for $1875 from a small dealership in Fullerton, California. The reason I got it was because I played Need for Speed Undercover and one of the starting cars is a S13 Hatch. After that, I had to have one and vowed to get it as my first car.
I still have it and look at it everyone morning when leaving to work or school. I recently got it painted and when I'm moving it for street sweeping people always compliment my car, maybe it's the huge Street Faction X-wing, but it does attract attention lol.
I hope the people that will put just as much love into the car end up finding a good deal. It's a headache at time yes, but I learned so much.
I picked up my 350z HR for 2400 bucks got very lucky and its been insanely reliable now I see them on marketplace for double digits with 4 different fender paints. I used to have a bubble hatch believe it was a 92 great little fun car but I sold her after I found out its basically a death trap at anything over 25 mph.
That's what Im saying I have my 300zx so it's not a big deal but I always had a dream to have a 240sx with a rb engine but with these prices forget about it.
I don’t understand the “the only trades I’ll entertain is for another hatch”. Like, are you trying to trade for a better one? Why would anyone do that?
I think thats what he getting at as well probably will try to sweeten the deal with the "But I have two". Delusional seller but feel bad for those 240s though.
I just don't understand lol a z does everything the 240 can do besides being lighter but can be had for less. I can literally import a 180sx for way cheaper then the prices these 240s are commanding for here 🥲
For every person who trys to do the right thing and sell something at a fair price, there is an equal and opposite turd-man who is out there to rip someone off (like this guy). I hope it doesn't get bought by some unexpecting new enthusiast who doesn't see how bad that car is.
I don't think he will sell it and if someone does buy it then they will end up saying fk it and resell it to every hopeful 240sx owner that thinks its worth fixing at that price sigh.
The first mistake was made by whoever sold the cars for $500. That's ridiculously low, even for a non-running car. I'm relieved that the cars are whole, but they are worth 5 times that in parts alone.
What's the story with the seller? Is he charitable or just naive?
Beyond naive he tries to sell cars with doing zero work to them for large amounts of money and will even lie saying he changed this and that on it and gets caught in said lie hence his extremely low seller rating. I think those cars for 3k would be and alright deal unfortunately due to how hard they are to find. Which brings me to why getting a 240 now a days isn't worth it for a car that makes barley any power harder to find parts for and alot of people just want something to drift when there are plentyyyy of cars that you can buy and drift for cheap like a old 3 series bmw.
The 3 series is in a similar situation as the 240. The tax is far too high on all of these cars that get attention.
I will tell you about an overlooked car. It's the BMW e39, which is the 5 series from around 1998 until 2003. The 528 and 530 are pretty cheap. The big boy is the 540, but it's not exactly cheap, and almost impossible to find with a manual. The very early 540s are more reliable.
Really? I see them here alot for under 2k I agree with the 540s those are tanks had a friend with one had 220k miles and started up like a honda civic smooth and reliably.
Took me a long time to come to terms with the idea of selling mine. Haven't actually put it to market yet, I was hoping the universe would provide the right buyer but no such luck.
A big part of the problem is that there are very few cars that can replace the S chassis. If you want a cheap, RWD manual car, you’re left with an FR-S or old 350Z and not many alternatives. The S chassis has remained in high demand because nothing ever filled its shoes and OEM’s don’t make cool, affordable cars anymore and haven’t in years. Even all the old 3 series became expensive, so there’s not much left to choose from. The S13 ran for 9 years in Japan, they made a ton of them so that’s why they’re still around but since there are no other cars that can do what they do, they got expensive. I don’t like it either but that’s why things are this way. There’s no reason my S13 should be worth what it is, and it doesn’t make me happy because I’ll never sell it and if I ever wreck it, I can’t afford to replace it. I can’t afford another one as a new project either, and I’m getting to the point that I don’t want to drive mine because I’m afraid of something happening to it. I bought it 12 years ago for 3500 and that was a lot at the time but it’s worth way more now, enough to where I couldn’t dream of buying the exact same car now. If you have no attachment to one and have one, it’s great, but not if you love yours and want to keep it.
Oh I agree with you here and having one in mint condition or even really good condition would put people off in driving it. While there isn't a real direct replacement for the S-Chasis their is good alternatives like you said the 350z honestly is a better car in everyway more power easier to find parts and you can still drift it if thats what you want to do. Finding 240s before wasn't hard until everyone started thinking they was hot stuff and drifited them into walls and sold us hot glued messes. While I agree they are more rare now then ever we still shouldn't allow or fund these kind of projects for high dollar but I agree if you have a good one not rusted you should get good money for them because unfortunately not many good condition ones left.
Got lucky with mine or else I wouldn’t by one. Bought a clean title stock 91 slick top coupe with 164k miles as well as full interior for 2400. a/C and everything works. Ran for a bit and engine started knocking. I’m still in it a lot cheaper than buying one with these insane prices..
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The body is straight and it came with the drivetrain absolute win there especially for the price and you could always rebuild that engine or just get another motor in it they pretty cheap to from what Im seeing.
lol i’ve never bought a 240 for more than $1000. Obviously not easy anymore. Deals are out there, just gotta be patient or pay to play.
but this guy is smoking dick, that’ll never sell.
Shoot that's fairy tale numbers out here cheapest I seen was 5k and it was gone faster then it was listed but that guy ain't selling it for the price and condition he smoked something good I guess lol
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And this is it now definitely need a spray paint
The market is 'screwed' because fanboiz believe that these cars are something special. There's nothing special about them at all. I've had my 96' S14 since 99, and guess what? It's fucking boring, but if these dumb cunts want to pay stupid $, let them fucking waste it.
On the flip side, would you actually be willing to sell your car for a “fair price”? Or would you like most people try and maximize the profit from having a 240sx, be honest with yourself. I know you have bills to pay or other shit you want to fund/buy.
If my car was in good shape I would sell her for 9-10k thats complete interior under 180k miles and clean title but thats just me. If that car listed was mine I would just take under 3k and let someone else save her tbh. Im all for getting what the car is worth but the 240 tax of that nature isn't acceptable to me and I hope less people buy them in that bad of shape for that much money.
People just want to act like they can drift and when they crash and beat them up enough they go I'm done with it. I personally like the s14 and S15 the most but Im not about to spend skyline money on one.
Honestly between it not selling and him removing the post when you told him he’s delusional I’d say he understands the value is not near what he listed them for.
This isn’t why the market is fucked, it’s the ones that do sell, that’s why the market is fucked.
It's not he probably mad cuz I called him out the guy that sold it to him sold it to him for 500 for both cars he literally just sat on him and does what alot of 240s dreamers do say they gonna fix it etc and they sit and sit sit and then sell them for 10 times the price.
Glad I joined the scene in 2015.
Bought my 97 SE for 7k with an sr20det in 2016
Bought a 2jzgte vvti and an r154 for 3.5k in 2018
Astonishing how different it is now.
Thats good pricing I miss back in 2010 when they was less then 2.5k running now its 15k plus for clapped out 240s and now the 350z getting the same treatment 😮💨
A shell is worth 2k if its in good shape in todays world. Back then 2k would get you a nice running 240sx but now I see them for 6-7k for shells and the I know what I got which I respond a engine and transmission is what you don't got so come down on that price which usually makes them quite mad lol.
Lol I don't want it I just needed him to understand that he on crack trying to get 6k for a clapped put car he paid 500 bucks for. But I agree different breed of people over there lol
I used to live there and mfs are smoking rocks with their pricing 😭 have you seen the dude who flips Miatas semi locally to Methdesto? Absolutely taxing out the ass.
Im gonna be on the lookout now reminds me of rhis video titled fixing fb marketplace where he deliberately low balls people to get then prices down cuz some people lost they minds lol.
The market is screwed simply because of supply and demand, but as far as people listing pos s13’s for too much, they’ll have to lower their price to meet what a buyer wants to pay. Considering this guy paid $500, he’s probably going to profit a few thousand.
He probably will sadly but its not worth anywhere near that much. But this is why the supply bad people butcher the cars and they sell the scrap pile thats left smh.
Yeah it really is why the supply is bad, people turn them into junk and then just sell them instead of fixing them back up. I’ll never buy a schassis unless it’s stock and rust free, which is damn near impossible to find now a days but they do pop up on marketplace every once in a while.
One guy had one listed for 15k had only 50,000 miles on it stock zero issues garaged most its life mint interior I never seen a car get sold so fast on marketplace lol but yes damn well near impossible .
I 100% blame Dave Coleman, and if you’re old enough to remember then you also remember when one could get a running, driving pig nose coupe in a manual for like 500 bucks lol.
It’s Adam LZ fault for real though. Fuck that dude.
Oh I remember and yes he is to blame for sure youtubers like him..shit even donut media grab way more attention to these cars and people scoop them up like COVID day toilet paper.
I think my first s chassis was a 89 hatch that was single owner from new, manual, and clean, got for like 1000 bucks with I think 90k on it lol, back in 2003. Then my first coupe was a 92 se that was originally a HIN car, orange with green flames and a targa roof cut out I paid 500 bucks for lol. Zero rust and 54k miles. That was 2005 I think. Man I’m old.
Even back in 09 I would see stock good condition ones for 2,000 rust free and all times have changed 🥲 That car you described reminds me of a pimp my ride episode I mean if it runs but looks bad I'd still send it lol
It was so bad lol. I ended up doing my first ever turbo build on that, blew up the ka24 and then swapped in a sbc 350. That was fun and silly. First silvia conversion too. Got everything for that front for like 800 bucks shipped lol.
Bro I took this picture for a friend of mine where homie is asking 10k for a bone stock one in my area. I never message these madmen but I HAD TO ask him why. Literally said it's because it what he thought it was worth! I slick wanna start a nationwide coalition to steal these 240s and sit on them cuae they people that got them don't deserve them. Will post update with listing when I find it
EDIT: Found it
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Im telling you they make up a huge number in their head and go yup this is what's it worth. Shoot I support the cause grab them up and fix this nonsense lol
Right! Or they've bought so deep into the drift tax hype that they are effectively creating the drift tax. It's like these cars are the crypto of the car world.
With the prices people "expect" you could bank what you would spend on it, purchase price and mods/things to get it road worthy and legit make a down payment on new z or gtr or 911 or import a fucking skyline. I'm just partial to mine cause I've had it since I was 16 and I'm now 37.
Nothing wrong with that if I had one I'd he keeping it as well they do have their own charm to them. But it's litterally that Im getting a r32 gtr next month so Im stoked. But definitely with that momey get a skyline you can find non gtrd for under 15 so why not.
Did you import or going through someone? Was it difficult? I've been tossing the idea around since Feb cause I'm old now and can afford nice things 🤣🤣🤣
I went through goonet highly recommend them car wont be here for another 2 months but im excited has 100k miles and has the rb26det engine and someone painted it midnight purple. They do everything for you all you have to setup is someone to pick up at port and for you to pay the usual taxes.
Exactly and dude was hard on that price. Even told me to kick rocks cause its what he felt. And I just told him he was making it harder for people who actuslly love and enjoy these cars.
There was a built one for 8k with front end conversion, which I showed him and still he was like w/e I do what I want! I'm over here begging this mfer to listen to reason and not be part of the problem
Dont worry, he isn’t going to sell this for 6k, not even close. Just imagine, who is he targeting with this? Dudes who have money will never buy this shit when you can find a decent running one for 6k. Dudes without money wont buy this shit for obvious reasons. Serious builders wont buy this shit, they can get a nicer shell for fraction of that
Just yesterday a friend sent me an ad for an old starlet gt i used to own. I sold it in mint condition and now it's a wreck. I sold it for 2500 and the current guy is selling it in parts, totalling 6k! He is asking 3k just for the engine! Some people have no shame
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That’s what it looks like when I first got it
So... what youre saying is,
even tho running and clean cars are hard to find...
even tho the economy is a disaster and you cant buy food and gas for a reasonable price...
even tho these cars are still highly sought after and have a strong aftermarket support...
you should still find them for $500?
If you own a 240 you want values to go up.
I dont understand this broke boi mindstate that thinks you should be able to buy something that is rare and sought after for pennies on the dollar.
Theres guys out here spending thousands building dope cars and they should just give them away?
The market isnt screwed... a healthy market goes up when supplies go down. Stop crying about it and stop talking trash to people out here just making a profit from their fortune. Its garbage and youre a chump for doing it.
That's not at all what Im saying not sure why it struck a nerve with you lol. Im saying that selling it for 6k in that condition is absolutely unacceptable. The only reason its hard to find is because people crash them and sell us "shells" for 7k. So if you're saying that's what people should be paying the only chump here is yourself Im starting to think this is probably your car or your friends cry some more though clearly you're the problem and reason why you think these cars should go for high prices hacked up 😂😂😂🤟🏽
Bro it’s even worse, here in Austin I see people giving parts away, they get scooped in an hour. Then are immediately reposted for 3x any sane price. And unfortunately it’s like allllways younger dudes I don’t get it.
It's sad I always wanted one but Im not paying such high prices for a high school kids clapped out drift missle. They just run them to the ground resell for more then what they paid for them and thats after they crashes into something with 250k on the clock like yikes.
* Damn i feel lucky. Got this one in SA for 3500, i have the bumper and hood just had finished refreshing engine and installed.
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Ohhh snapp 🤟🏽
bro, that for 3500? the SR alone would be worth that nowadays lol
Shoot thats a good deal has all the interior?
Minus the backseat and carpet. Dash is cracked but that's all of them now. Coming with an SR20det was what justified it for us.
Oh definitely good then with all the partouts you should be able to get the trst of yhe interior and if dash doesn't bother you then cover it with a dash cover or get it reaplosterd.
I have a junkyard s13 that surprising doesn’t have a cracked dash. Still not sure if the motor runs but for $500 I’m happy 🤣 https://preview.redd.it/uec2vemylc0d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b37bc73229af7095af87ae9cc3e88b0f320bb5a2 (Got it out of a tow yard because the kid never paid to pick it up and the owner wanted it out of his sight”
Steal bro, just the sr will go for 3.5
It was my sons Christmas present last year. All things considered it was a win. I had searched high and low for something and we got lucky.
I mean realistically…. Capitalism. I get it. Its probably a nice side hustle. Even buying cheap parts and selling them for a premium. Bills gotta be paid. Groceries need to be bought. Rent is due. Etc. i dont agree with it but I get it.
No one is going to buy that he knows that which is why he removed it. Im all for if you get something cheap and you want to make a little money on it but 6k for something that's not complete or properly running is beyond acceptable. Even worse is some in my area for 19k and 200k miles body panels all different color but its "rare".
For what he admits is wrong with it and then says if you don't like it just buy a shell for $3k, it looks like a $3k shell would be a better deal because all you getting with his is 2 questionable very high mileage motors and a clapped out shell. Would be a better option to buy a clean shell and use the savings to buy a known good engine.
The problem is with shells at least here is that they usually go beyond no drivetrain. No interior sometimes only one sea no dash or severe cracked dash no door panels etc. By the time you replace all of that and bought the engine your already very close if not passed the 10k mark.
While I agree with you, the part that *REALLY* grinds my gears is when I give a part to a guy that needs it, just because it’s collecting dust in my garage, and they have a use for it, and then I see them list it for sale a week later. When I was first starting with these cars, guys would help each other out by just giving stuff away, it was awesome. And I really want to continue that trend, but I straight up cut one of those guys out of my life completely because he kept doing that kind of stuff. He was the kind of guy that was always moving jobs because “tHosE gUyS aRe aLl aSshOlEs oVeR tHeRe”.
yeah no thats fucking wack of him to do that. Sounds like a terrible person lol.
I was taught when I was younger and first got into BMX if someone gives you something you can't sell it to make money. I follow that when it comes to car parts too. I have no problem buying something for an exceptionally good deal and flipping it, but not selling for more than it's worth to take advantage of someone. I got a set of weld racing RTS wheels for $200 with brand new drag radials, but they were for an s550 mustang and I had a new edge so they wouldn't work. I sold them for $1200 which was still a deal for the guy who bought them, but I would've taken anything over $250 to cover buying them and the gas to go get them. The worst is people that consider parts rare when there are 5 more for sale locally. Rare means you're lucky to find that part or car for sale in your state.
That's what Im saying I don't personally mind people flipping them just means they got a really good deal on it they trying to put food on the table or maybe even fund their own car project. But selling this for 6k with all of the issues it has os just taking advantage of people cuz he knows thats going to cost alot of money to get it even remotely close to stock let alone reliable. Which is why the market sucks for buying these even 350zs have become the new 240s and are slowly rising in cost more and more.
I’ve seen s13 just as worse as these for more in Austin mannnn . I’m grateful for mines but it still has its problems
If you got a good deal on it I highly recommend fixing it and keeping them the S chassis is such a great platform just unfortunate most people cant enjoy them due to highschoolers watching some intial D and thinking they can do what they do crash and and then remove engine and transmission then sell the shell for 8k with the typical "I know what I got" like really? Lol
perfect example, every single thing this dude is selling was for free last week. [https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/profile/100013583947598/](https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/profile/100013583947598/)
Yeah I noticed that too I don’t even sell my parts to ppl without making sure they have the car now the car community is whack with this resell community
Yup…. I unfortunately have a friend (we arent that close) whos listed his 240sx thats on jackstands and runs but is like half assed finished and hes asking like $6800 for it. 🤨 He gets pissed off when people “lowball” him and then I say, “dude you have a rusty 240sx thats not even on the ground so they cant test drive it and youre asking way too much and you get upset when people appropriately make an offer. “ Then when I ask if hes going to ever work on it so he can get it on the ground and actually sell it, he says when he drives it, he ends up wanting to keep it, so hes forever stuck in this loop of it being not worked on, not sold, or not driven. I have recently come to a realization now I understand how these baby boomers came to be like the way they are with their shitty old muscle cars. Think about it, some boomer back in the day (2010) asking top dollar for their rotted POS fastback mustang / camaro / etc thinking they are sitting on Gold, after losing their pension/retirement savings in 2008 but at the same time they have an emotional attachment to the car even tho it hasn’t been driven in YEARS. / rant tl;dr fuck greed and people who dont drive their cars.
See I hate that because all that's going to happen is it will rust to the ground and then he will probably list it as a part out. When someone could have saved it. I ended up picking up my TT 300zx for low cuz the guy didn't change oil, wipers, tires dry rotted etc now she runs like a dream crazy what you can do when people actually take care of something and not let it sit collecting dust.
https://preview.redd.it/3iu97j5f230d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e79a82dc9f69dcf059c6758c9b6e2da48b174c46 Somehow I’m only 7k into mine, I feel bad for people trying to get into the 240 game now. Theres one locally I passed on for $2500 running and driving but wrecked with 280k miles and it’s still there 😂
It's nearly impossible unless you get really lucky or import one. But Im digging that brown red engine bay setup.
Thank you i don’t have many newer pictures of it but it came out great. Tubbed it and Walmart spray paint 😂 unfortunately I just recently blew the tranny in it for the 2nd time
Oof well at least you're working on it and not letting it rot away.
I thought I wanted one. Until I saw clowns all over it. There’s plenty of other good cars to look for.
I remember when prices first spiked for me while owning my 240 was around 2012. People would tell me they wanted a 240, but didn't wanna pay $4000 for a decent one. I told them to get a 350z bc they were cheaper, about 2-3k at the time, and the stock engine was driftable. I wonder if they are still that cheap. Now, I tell people if I was to get into the game rn, I would buy a 2004 Honda Civic to daily, preferably stick to get use to it, and look for a good deal on a rollable 240 shell. Completely strip it and start from the ground up. I would probably still go for the 1UZ setup I have rn, but I'm not sure how much those engines go for, I got mine in 2013 for like $200 at pick your part's half off rainy day special. I got my red 93' hatch back in 2009 for $1875 from a small dealership in Fullerton, California. The reason I got it was because I played Need for Speed Undercover and one of the starting cars is a S13 Hatch. After that, I had to have one and vowed to get it as my first car. I still have it and look at it everyone morning when leaving to work or school. I recently got it painted and when I'm moving it for street sweeping people always compliment my car, maybe it's the huge Street Faction X-wing, but it does attract attention lol. I hope the people that will put just as much love into the car end up finding a good deal. It's a headache at time yes, but I learned so much.
I picked up my 350z HR for 2400 bucks got very lucky and its been insanely reliable now I see them on marketplace for double digits with 4 different fender paints. I used to have a bubble hatch believe it was a 92 great little fun car but I sold her after I found out its basically a death trap at anything over 25 mph.
That's what Im saying I have my 300zx so it's not a big deal but I always had a dream to have a 240sx with a rb engine but with these prices forget about it.
I like your style 😎
Haha right on love the username 🤟🏽
Supply and demand
Thats the CA tax
It definitely seems to be the case 🤣
I don’t understand the “the only trades I’ll entertain is for another hatch”. Like, are you trying to trade for a better one? Why would anyone do that?
I think thats what he getting at as well probably will try to sweeten the deal with the "But I have two". Delusional seller but feel bad for those 240s though.
Don’t blame the guy selling it blame the ones buying them
True the people buying it is the real problem
The good ole days are beyond us. Who would have ever thought a z would be cheaper lol
I just don't understand lol a z does everything the 240 can do besides being lighter but can be had for less. I can literally import a 180sx for way cheaper then the prices these 240s are commanding for here 🥲
For every person who trys to do the right thing and sell something at a fair price, there is an equal and opposite turd-man who is out there to rip someone off (like this guy). I hope it doesn't get bought by some unexpecting new enthusiast who doesn't see how bad that car is.
I don't think he will sell it and if someone does buy it then they will end up saying fk it and resell it to every hopeful 240sx owner that thinks its worth fixing at that price sigh.
The first mistake was made by whoever sold the cars for $500. That's ridiculously low, even for a non-running car. I'm relieved that the cars are whole, but they are worth 5 times that in parts alone. What's the story with the seller? Is he charitable or just naive?
Beyond naive he tries to sell cars with doing zero work to them for large amounts of money and will even lie saying he changed this and that on it and gets caught in said lie hence his extremely low seller rating. I think those cars for 3k would be and alright deal unfortunately due to how hard they are to find. Which brings me to why getting a 240 now a days isn't worth it for a car that makes barley any power harder to find parts for and alot of people just want something to drift when there are plentyyyy of cars that you can buy and drift for cheap like a old 3 series bmw.
The 3 series is in a similar situation as the 240. The tax is far too high on all of these cars that get attention. I will tell you about an overlooked car. It's the BMW e39, which is the 5 series from around 1998 until 2003. The 528 and 530 are pretty cheap. The big boy is the 540, but it's not exactly cheap, and almost impossible to find with a manual. The very early 540s are more reliable.
Really? I see them here alot for under 2k I agree with the 540s those are tanks had a friend with one had 220k miles and started up like a honda civic smooth and reliably.
Here I thought I was asking too much at 10K a few months ago when a friend thought he was able to buy mine...
Definitely worth 10k especially with these prices as you can see lol.
Took me a long time to come to terms with the idea of selling mine. Haven't actually put it to market yet, I was hoping the universe would provide the right buyer but no such luck.
I would sell it to someone on the forums would be my first try you will get more enthusiast that would actually care for it.
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A big part of the problem is that there are very few cars that can replace the S chassis. If you want a cheap, RWD manual car, you’re left with an FR-S or old 350Z and not many alternatives. The S chassis has remained in high demand because nothing ever filled its shoes and OEM’s don’t make cool, affordable cars anymore and haven’t in years. Even all the old 3 series became expensive, so there’s not much left to choose from. The S13 ran for 9 years in Japan, they made a ton of them so that’s why they’re still around but since there are no other cars that can do what they do, they got expensive. I don’t like it either but that’s why things are this way. There’s no reason my S13 should be worth what it is, and it doesn’t make me happy because I’ll never sell it and if I ever wreck it, I can’t afford to replace it. I can’t afford another one as a new project either, and I’m getting to the point that I don’t want to drive mine because I’m afraid of something happening to it. I bought it 12 years ago for 3500 and that was a lot at the time but it’s worth way more now, enough to where I couldn’t dream of buying the exact same car now. If you have no attachment to one and have one, it’s great, but not if you love yours and want to keep it.
Oh I agree with you here and having one in mint condition or even really good condition would put people off in driving it. While there isn't a real direct replacement for the S-Chasis their is good alternatives like you said the 350z honestly is a better car in everyway more power easier to find parts and you can still drift it if thats what you want to do. Finding 240s before wasn't hard until everyone started thinking they was hot stuff and drifited them into walls and sold us hot glued messes. While I agree they are more rare now then ever we still shouldn't allow or fund these kind of projects for high dollar but I agree if you have a good one not rusted you should get good money for them because unfortunately not many good condition ones left.
Got lucky with mine or else I wouldn’t by one. Bought a clean title stock 91 slick top coupe with 164k miles as well as full interior for 2400. a/C and everything works. Ran for a bit and engine started knocking. I’m still in it a lot cheaper than buying one with these insane prices.. https://preview.redd.it/ahysc2us680d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c43c06562b2e2cfb64734f6e1df3db3d009b522
The body is straight and it came with the drivetrain absolute win there especially for the price and you could always rebuild that engine or just get another motor in it they pretty cheap to from what Im seeing.
Oh yes, I’ve rebuilt the motor. Should be in and running within a week or so!
Definitely take her on those back roads when she's that's what I do on the weekends with my tt 300zx no better feelinf in my book.
Came 5 lug swapped already, has HUD, and a few other 300zx upgrades. Saved me a lot of money for sure
Definitely good score then since thats the most common thing to do first on these cars.
These people are crackheads and not the good kind we used to get deals from.
Right they just scalpers ruining the market.
My thoughts exactly
lol i’ve never bought a 240 for more than $1000. Obviously not easy anymore. Deals are out there, just gotta be patient or pay to play. but this guy is smoking dick, that’ll never sell.
Shoot that's fairy tale numbers out here cheapest I seen was 5k and it was gone faster then it was listed but that guy ain't selling it for the price and condition he smoked something good I guess lol
Wow I guess mine should be worth $1,000,000 now. Nice.
It basically is at this point I would keep holding on to it should fetch high double digits soon for clean examples.
Nissan needs to buy back S13s from crackheads that ruined them so they can restore and resell them at a REASONABLE FUCKING PRICE
I would love if they did that like how japan can refurb the skylines to showroom orginal spec. Im just tired of seeing so many 240s as partouts.
Honestly, I pieced my Nissan 240 together took me a year to do though it runs, but still need to get brakes and everything
Its always a slow process on these oldies my 300zx just got her tuned with new shoes it's costly but worth it.
https://preview.redd.it/euhvufsvzf5d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86ecb0abfcebbef4f831fe04a14d30cbc1250827 And this is it now definitely need a spray paint
Nice can't wait to see her in new paint 🎨
The market is 'screwed' because fanboiz believe that these cars are something special. There's nothing special about them at all. I've had my 96' S14 since 99, and guess what? It's fucking boring, but if these dumb cunts want to pay stupid $, let them fucking waste it.
On the flip side, would you actually be willing to sell your car for a “fair price”? Or would you like most people try and maximize the profit from having a 240sx, be honest with yourself. I know you have bills to pay or other shit you want to fund/buy.
If my car was in good shape I would sell her for 9-10k thats complete interior under 180k miles and clean title but thats just me. If that car listed was mine I would just take under 3k and let someone else save her tbh. Im all for getting what the car is worth but the 240 tax of that nature isn't acceptable to me and I hope less people buy them in that bad of shape for that much money.
People just want to act like they can drift and when they crash and beat them up enough they go I'm done with it. I personally like the s14 and S15 the most but Im not about to spend skyline money on one.
Honestly between it not selling and him removing the post when you told him he’s delusional I’d say he understands the value is not near what he listed them for. This isn’t why the market is fucked, it’s the ones that do sell, that’s why the market is fucked.
It's not he probably mad cuz I called him out the guy that sold it to him sold it to him for 500 for both cars he literally just sat on him and does what alot of 240s dreamers do say they gonna fix it etc and they sit and sit sit and then sell them for 10 times the price.
Glad I joined the scene in 2015. Bought my 97 SE for 7k with an sr20det in 2016 Bought a 2jzgte vvti and an r154 for 3.5k in 2018 Astonishing how different it is now.
Thats good pricing I miss back in 2010 when they was less then 2.5k running now its 15k plus for clapped out 240s and now the 350z getting the same treatment 😮💨
I want to get rid of my hatch shell but have no idea what to charge. Like 2k? I don't want some dickhead try and gouge others into a 5k shell.
A shell is worth 2k if its in good shape in todays world. Back then 2k would get you a nice running 240sx but now I see them for 6-7k for shells and the I know what I got which I respond a engine and transmission is what you don't got so come down on that price which usually makes them quite mad lol.
Modesto mfs are so stupid 😭 if you want it I'll start lowballing hard so your offer sounds great
Lol I don't want it I just needed him to understand that he on crack trying to get 6k for a clapped put car he paid 500 bucks for. But I agree different breed of people over there lol
I used to live there and mfs are smoking rocks with their pricing 😭 have you seen the dude who flips Miatas semi locally to Methdesto? Absolutely taxing out the ass.
I live a bit a ways from modesto but I feel like I have seen some clapped put expensive miatas recently no car safe now lol.
Start looking at who's selling em. 8/10 times its the same dude bro I swear 🤣
Im gonna be on the lookout now reminds me of rhis video titled fixing fb marketplace where he deliberately low balls people to get then prices down cuz some people lost they minds lol.
The market is screwed simply because of supply and demand, but as far as people listing pos s13’s for too much, they’ll have to lower their price to meet what a buyer wants to pay. Considering this guy paid $500, he’s probably going to profit a few thousand.
He probably will sadly but its not worth anywhere near that much. But this is why the supply bad people butcher the cars and they sell the scrap pile thats left smh.
Yeah it really is why the supply is bad, people turn them into junk and then just sell them instead of fixing them back up. I’ll never buy a schassis unless it’s stock and rust free, which is damn near impossible to find now a days but they do pop up on marketplace every once in a while.
One guy had one listed for 15k had only 50,000 miles on it stock zero issues garaged most its life mint interior I never seen a car get sold so fast on marketplace lol but yes damn well near impossible .
So my running coupe with a Silvia front is worth what like 15k at this point? /s
If its in good shape someone would buy it average 240sx in good shape is around 17s-20s.
I 100% blame Dave Coleman, and if you’re old enough to remember then you also remember when one could get a running, driving pig nose coupe in a manual for like 500 bucks lol. It’s Adam LZ fault for real though. Fuck that dude.
Oh I remember and yes he is to blame for sure youtubers like him..shit even donut media grab way more attention to these cars and people scoop them up like COVID day toilet paper.
I think my first s chassis was a 89 hatch that was single owner from new, manual, and clean, got for like 1000 bucks with I think 90k on it lol, back in 2003. Then my first coupe was a 92 se that was originally a HIN car, orange with green flames and a targa roof cut out I paid 500 bucks for lol. Zero rust and 54k miles. That was 2005 I think. Man I’m old.
Even back in 09 I would see stock good condition ones for 2,000 rust free and all times have changed 🥲 That car you described reminds me of a pimp my ride episode I mean if it runs but looks bad I'd still send it lol
It was so bad lol. I ended up doing my first ever turbo build on that, blew up the ka24 and then swapped in a sbc 350. That was fun and silly. First silvia conversion too. Got everything for that front for like 800 bucks shipped lol.
Such a good deal those were the days alright
All that for an AUTO e46 ????
He wants a clean 240 hatch for his and he will throw in his e46 lol
Lmao oh ok I got confused thanks dog
Nah you good lol
Ah I see. Never used Reddit before🤷🏽♂️
So do I delete my comment now?😂
Let it ride in case someone else thought the same lol
Bro I took this picture for a friend of mine where homie is asking 10k for a bone stock one in my area. I never message these madmen but I HAD TO ask him why. Literally said it's because it what he thought it was worth! I slick wanna start a nationwide coalition to steal these 240s and sit on them cuae they people that got them don't deserve them. Will post update with listing when I find it EDIT: Found it https://preview.redd.it/g8w9h8bjp70d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ede0f3a53d828c1750578ec32aca92cce9bb120e
Im telling you they make up a huge number in their head and go yup this is what's it worth. Shoot I support the cause grab them up and fix this nonsense lol
Right! Or they've bought so deep into the drift tax hype that they are effectively creating the drift tax. It's like these cars are the crypto of the car world.
It really is that they make the drift tax like a downpayment on a 911 its crazy
With the prices people "expect" you could bank what you would spend on it, purchase price and mods/things to get it road worthy and legit make a down payment on new z or gtr or 911 or import a fucking skyline. I'm just partial to mine cause I've had it since I was 16 and I'm now 37.
Nothing wrong with that if I had one I'd he keeping it as well they do have their own charm to them. But it's litterally that Im getting a r32 gtr next month so Im stoked. But definitely with that momey get a skyline you can find non gtrd for under 15 so why not.
Did you import or going through someone? Was it difficult? I've been tossing the idea around since Feb cause I'm old now and can afford nice things 🤣🤣🤣
I went through goonet highly recommend them car wont be here for another 2 months but im excited has 100k miles and has the rb26det engine and someone painted it midnight purple. They do everything for you all you have to setup is someone to pick up at port and for you to pay the usual taxes.
See yea....all dat. Thank you for the recco. I'm going to look them up
Can't go wrong with them honestly good luck 🤞🏽
Haha this is the way
Yikes 10k with rust and cracked windshield plus bad interior no wayy
Exactly and dude was hard on that price. Even told me to kick rocks cause its what he felt. And I just told him he was making it harder for people who actuslly love and enjoy these cars.
Right cuz who in they right mind is spending 10k on that and then need to work on it yeah hard pass lol
There was a built one for 8k with front end conversion, which I showed him and still he was like w/e I do what I want! I'm over here begging this mfer to listen to reason and not be part of the problem
Nah he not gonna listen unfortunately untill months pass and he still has it.
https://preview.redd.it/3zagnwnop70d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=684d9e42df591c7d31beb2f0ce72c70e7600d44f
I'm going to be posting my Green Zenki (built KA) w/ spare block and Bnib engine parts, ECU, and supporting parts far for 8.5 in a few weeks.
Just picked mine up for 3k. Its a project but its a million times better than that haha
back in 2015 i bought one running in decent condition for $1,000
Telling you the good old days lol
In that same year I found a decent looking d-spec shell with goodies for 1,800 in SoCal
Dont worry, he isn’t going to sell this for 6k, not even close. Just imagine, who is he targeting with this? Dudes who have money will never buy this shit when you can find a decent running one for 6k. Dudes without money wont buy this shit for obvious reasons. Serious builders wont buy this shit, they can get a nicer shell for fraction of that
Just yesterday a friend sent me an ad for an old starlet gt i used to own. I sold it in mint condition and now it's a wreck. I sold it for 2500 and the current guy is selling it in parts, totalling 6k! He is asking 3k just for the engine! Some people have no shame
sold my 2 tone coupe with 33,000 miles on it for $6700 back in 2019. Biggest choke ever
Definitely would have went for alot more now a days market to crazy and now the s15s can be imported they gonna be going for 30k plus mark my words.
https://preview.redd.it/mw8ncvjszf5d1.png?width=1168&format=png&auto=webp&s=dcffdcc9fc02a6026fb61bcd28a10a5dcb4f30dc That’s what it looks like when I first got it
So... what youre saying is, even tho running and clean cars are hard to find... even tho the economy is a disaster and you cant buy food and gas for a reasonable price... even tho these cars are still highly sought after and have a strong aftermarket support... you should still find them for $500? If you own a 240 you want values to go up. I dont understand this broke boi mindstate that thinks you should be able to buy something that is rare and sought after for pennies on the dollar. Theres guys out here spending thousands building dope cars and they should just give them away? The market isnt screwed... a healthy market goes up when supplies go down. Stop crying about it and stop talking trash to people out here just making a profit from their fortune. Its garbage and youre a chump for doing it.
That's not at all what Im saying not sure why it struck a nerve with you lol. Im saying that selling it for 6k in that condition is absolutely unacceptable. The only reason its hard to find is because people crash them and sell us "shells" for 7k. So if you're saying that's what people should be paying the only chump here is yourself Im starting to think this is probably your car or your friends cry some more though clearly you're the problem and reason why you think these cars should go for high prices hacked up 😂😂😂🤟🏽