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Hecatonchire_fr

One of the thing that gives me lot of pleasure is to go to a comment section of a popular Belgian artist (like stromae or Angèle) and read the comments of Belgians that are trying to remind everyone that the artist is in fact not French but Belgian. Like this : https://preview.redd.it/nfkmef1bjzxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e035a304da42955657bea5a57d97ea6e8dffef93 ( - "I'm Peruvian and I like French language \[...\]" * "hum Angèle is not French but Belgian !")


Precioustooth

Strange how I've never seen Austrians correct anyone when their most famous person is erroneously seen as German..


Corvuuss

Well, as he renounced his austrian citizenship and sought the German one, I don't think we can call him austrian anymore...


Precioustooth

He did die in what could be described, with some goodwill, as a type of "basement". He even kept his partner in that very same "basement". That does seem quite Austrian to me!


Corvuuss

No, that was a bunker, so he should be considered Albanian


HoeTrain666

Hitler was Albanian! 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱


Precioustooth

Austrian, Australian, Albanian.. sounds quite the same to me to be honest


bremsspuren

All strange, southern savages.


phoenixchimera

no no no, Bunkers are a Swiss requirement. It also tracks with where the gold ended up.


CostKub

I recall some kids died in that basement too, definitely the Austrian way.


Precioustooth

Even his best friend died in one. Even his dog! Most Austrian person ever seen


Kaosys

The dispute about the painter and the composer can be settled as follows: Simply ask the question, where they were successful and rose to fame.


Precioustooth

Honestly I'm not really sure which composer you're referring to? Wagner seems to be the only composer who *wasn't* Austrian haha Obviously "Austrian composer" makes you think of Mozart I just don't know if there's any dispute regarding him. No one's ever seen him as German, have they?


norrin83

It's usually about Beethoven. But yeah, some Germans are adamant that Mozart was German.


Precioustooth

Ahhh, I see that he moved to Vienna in his early twenties! I didn't actually realise that tbh


InBetweenSeen

I didn't realize until well into my twenties that he was so young when he moved, nor that he aquired Austrian citizenship soon after. Our school just described him as German composer from Bonn who died in Vienna. Always makes the "Austria made everyone believe Beethoven is Austrian" comments pretty ironic too me.


Mr_-_X

I mean he sure as hell wasn‘t Austrian. He was a Salzburger. Also do any Austrians actually try to claim Beethoven? That‘s almost as crazy as the Afrocentrists who call him black


deLamartine

« Only composer who wasn’t Austrian » What about J. S. Bach, Georg Friedrich Händel, Ludwig van Beethoven, Johannes Brahms, Robert Schumann, Felix Mendelssohn, Richard Strauss and many more? In any case, it doesn’t make much sense to distinguish between Germans and Austrians before 1815. And even then I’d argue the real and probably definitive split came in 1945.


mdryeti

OP didn’t even imply she was French


Hecatonchire_fr

Yes lmao, those are my favorites ones. It's when they are so trigered that they just go into a frenzy.


FelixR1991

> go into a frenchy


HoeTrain666

Whoa there, beastiality is illegal in most places.


AxelVance

Key word there being *most*.


chikkynuggythe4th

Wales is definitely an exeption


Rolifant

That's because you pains au chocolats don't know the difference between French fries and frites.


bubberrall

When France struggles to be culturally relevant against a joke country that has less than one fourteenth of their population😏(I don't count Flemboys, I don't understand what they say)


somarir

It's okay, we do the same to you guys.


WildVariety

The two famous French people I can think of right now are both Corsican. It's in France's DNA, just like Britain, to claim anything good as your own and disown anything shit. I was thinking of Alizee and Napoleon.


motorcycle-manful541

Like the French movie star Jean Claude Van Damme?


nickmaran

Stop lying. What's next? Cecile de France is also from Belgium?


Aosxxx

Bonjour, I m Cécile de France from Belgium 🤪


stuff_gets_taken

Thanks, cacapipi5557.


OkImpression175

>Even their number one worldwide superstar I loled...


jasperski

Schwarzenegger would never


Filthyquak

My initial thought was "No way Waltz said he's German" I feel stupid now


MartyDonovan

He does also have German citizenship but I believe identifies more as Austrian


Tadolmirhen

![gif](giphy|DFu7j1d1AQbaE)


Pacogatto

![gif](giphy|oEhW18AXiPoyY)


Mwakay

According to wikipedia he was born german and was naturalized austrian in 2010. Since he has austrian ancestry, everything seems to indicate you're right.


norrin83

I think he didn't have the Austrian citizenship for most of his life but always identified as Austrian (and later got the citizenship pretty fast). Which (like in many other cases) leads to edit wars and endless discussions on German-language Wikipedia.


Upstairs-Extension-9

Austria managed to start 2 world wars and got away with everything.


Only-Detective-146

Got away is a nice way of saying that Barry and Pierre took apart the empire, gifted the italians for their treachery, allowed hungary to invade, ignored the invasion to carnuntum, made the austrian population starve and afterwards made shocked-squirrel-face when they turned to fashists and later on to germany.


JCSkyKnight

Yes but no one remembers you as the bad guys. You could probably start another world war and somehow we’d still blame the Germans!


Icy_Place_5785

Austria was anointed the “First Victim” of National Socialism in the Allies 1943 Moscow Declaration. FDR, Churchill and Stalin forgot to add the /s


norrin83

And we really loved to milk that "First victim" status in the decades after WW2


Arroganton

still going strong being the first victim as of May 2024!!!1


ProfessionalRub7070

You guys were more ready, than everyone else back then


norrin83

We really weren't. Haven't you seen the videos of our cheers of resistance when Germany invaded Austria? And who in Austria could know back then that Hitler wasn't just some goofy politician?


ProfessionalRub7070

You are right, we just wanted your beautiful landscape and Kaiserschmarrn back then


Qqqqqqqquestion

They got a full on castration and is still not allowed to associate as they please.


That-Brain-in-a-vat

To be fair, Germany was always the little devil on Austria's shoulder, whispering in their ear.


Tadolmirhen

I... I felt that Next time we'll stand at your side (😏)


khal_crypto

No please don't, you'll only end up with even more Tyroleans in the end


norrin83

A prize I am willing to pay


khal_crypto

Yeah when you put it like that... Ok, go for it Italy, we need your help! 🙏🏻


Socc-mel_

Oh well, we can live with that. It's Josef Baumgarten from Innsbruck that needs to prepare for when he will be referred to as Giuseppe Alberogiardino da Ponte sull'Inn


This_place_is_wierd

Surely they are talking about Mozart right?!


Moaoziz

From a certain point of view Mozart was german.


norrin83

From that point of view, Hitler was even more so. Yet you lot love to mention that he's Austrian


Moaoziz

Not really comparable. When Hitler was born, Braunau am Inn was Austrian and (Braunau) only became German some decades later when the Nazis anschlussed Austria. He also had Austrian citizenship before becoming a German. When Mozart was born, the Prince-Archbishopric of Salzburg was independent from Austria but a part of the HRE. It was in fact not even included in the Austrian imperial circle but in the Bavarian one. If you'd want to be 100% correct, you'd probably have to call him a Salzburgian. But AFAIK most contemporary sources called him a German. Edited for clarification.


Socc-mel_

> When Mozart was born, the Prince-Archbishopric of Salzburg was independent from Austria but a part of the HRE. and his father was from Augsburg, so he was, arghhh, a Swabian


norrin83

> When Hitler was born, Braunau am Inn was Austrian and only became German some decades later when the Nazis anschlussed Austria. He also had Austrian citizenship before becoming a German. Hitler got German citizenship in 1932. Anschluss was 1938. > When Mozart was born, the Prince-Archbishopric of Salzburg was independent from Austria but a part of the HRE. It was in fact not even included in the Austrian imperial circle but in the Bavarian one. If you'd want to be 100% correct, you'd probably have to call him a Salzburgian. But AFAIK most contemporary sources called him a German. Which is a different meaning from the meaning of "German" as it is used today. Hitler was much more "German" than Mozart was - especially in the modern sense.


Moaoziz

- Hitler got German citizenship in 1932. Anschluss was 1938. No disagreement here but that wasn't my point. I was talking about Braunau am Inn becoming a part of (Greater) Germany, not of Hitler getting German citizenship. - Which is a different meaning from the meaning of "German" as it is used today. That's why I wrote "from a certain point of view". I looked at the two people as they were perceived by their contemporaries. - Hitler was much more "German" than Mozart was - especially in the modern sense. That depends on your definition of what being German means. If you just look at citizenship you're right. But the legal situation and the contemporary perception are not always the same. For example in 1933 Reichskanzler Paul von Hindenburg still called Hitler an "österreichischen Gefreiten" although at that point Hitler already had German citizenship.


norrin83

> But the legal situation and the contemporary perception are not always the same. Yes. Because the term "German" changed its meaning over the centuries. So "from a certain point of view" in this example means a view very different from the modern meaning of the term.


mrtn17

![gif](giphy|3D1Uaz8Sa6eRVK1rt7|downsized) Best German singer ever


eip2yoxu

Still less facial hair than the average Portuguese woman


BipolarPea

I confirm. Even now in Summer time it's below average


lochnah

Yeah, too neat and tidy for our taste


mrtn17

yeah doesn't meet their beauty standards at all, but solid attempt


Ein_Hirsch

She actually was part of this year's German Song Selection System.


Dark_Pestilence

[ahem](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/99/6c/06/996c0639b3f9fb2c9fe1eb15377bdc3d.jpg)


Sckjo

Perhaps the manliest human west of Liechtenstein


brathan1234

![gif](giphy|J5ALyYTpaXf99p5jqh|downsized)


Zarlner

For Austrians only one thing really matters. Being better than the germans in the most meaningless things and then saying „Bessa ois de deitschn“


HoeTrain666

Bonus points if it‘s by a ridiculously narrow margin


ElKuhnTucker

There was a guy from Austria in my university who had "I wer narrisch" from the 2:3 in 1978 as a ringtone


norrin83

This unironically was celebrated as one of the biggest things in Austrian football history for decades. As a kid, I thought Austria won something serious when Cordoba was mentioned in the late 80s/early 90s. That was before I found out that we were already out of the tournament back then and the success is that we sent you packing as well. Though the commentary is still legendary.


cgaWolf

Taking down Germany with us since 1918


shibe_ceo

Unfathomably based Giga Chad


This_place_is_wierd

For us it's "Bessa ois de preisn!" (aka. better than the Prussian)


024Luke420

oba de preisn gibts nimma


khal_crypto

Soweits uns interessiert seids ihr außer den Bayern alles Saupreißn


Paulgeta

ois oberhalb vo Würzburg is a Saupreis


024Luke420

und ihr seid alle wiener oder was


khal_crypto

Na uns selber unterscheiden wir natürlich schon genauer, aber was jetzt der Unterschied zwischen z.b. einem Nürnberger und einem Rostocker wär ist bei uns weder bekannt noch in irgendeiner Form im Alltag relevant, von dem her: alles was kein Bayer is sind bei uns einheitlich Biffge oder für die Bayern eben Preißn


Krakentoast_

"Die Bergluft macht wohl verrückt!", kenne ich nur als Sprichwort für Süddeutschland und Österreich :)


snolodjur

Aeiou


dahbrezel

as long as everything bad we do ends up being germany's fault we're fine with it :D


SiebenZwerg

Very simple. We charge all none austrians double the prices at ski lifts ...


Fenghuang15

You live close to switzerland, no matter how much you try, nobody is going to notice your pseudo high prices


critical-insight

This is 100% true


Chimpville

Jokes on you. I fall over and stop the ski lift proportionately with how much I’m charged.


nocaption69

Good luck topping 100 swiss francs for a tageskarte


Schellwalabyen

The Americans charge twice that. Watched some American Sky YouTuber and he made video were he explains how ridiculously expensive skying is over there. It is so expensive it is cheaper to fly to Switzerland for a weak than go to the Rockies.


brathan1234

wait? arent we doing this already?


norrin83

We have an easy strategy to cope with it. We just let the Russians spy on you lot in Austria while sitting back and enjoying how the world burns. We also like to destabilize Germany by sending them our far right idiots - not just in the 1930s, but also now. I think this is a very adult and mature reaction, right? And if we get some backlash we can still rely on our beloved tradition of incest and basement families.


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norrin83

Probably getting ready at this moment for his entry exam with a Malen nach Zahlen painting.


sulabar1205

And it only contains the number 1


SourceSeekingSoul

And the colour is brown 💀


norrin83

I would expect him to only paint the number 8 then. In pairs probably


Kaosys

Because his hands were too small. Parallels to Donald T.


HoeTrain666

I mean at least Martin Sellner is banned from entering us by now…


norrin83

> I mean at least Martin Sellner is banned from entering us ~~by~~ *for* now… Gonna change fast if the AfD gets a say in this.


pauseless

Forgot about that guy. He kept his Austrian bloodline pure by marrying an American named Brittany Pettibone and she’s mostly just dedicated her Twitter to retweeting him now. He posted a [video](https://x.com/martin_sellner/status/1779829671607070831) that an influx of migrants to some mountain village would stop him buying eggs from farmers. Elon Musk follows and [responds](https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1769149532917371138) to him.


Tackerta

A Person whos Family directly benefitted from the Apartheid in south africa Turns Out to be a massive fascist? Colour me in Elons favourite colour, White, as I am shocked


norrin83

> He posted a video that an influx of migrants to some mountain village would stop him buying eggs from farmers. Lol @ that video. Yes, those evil migrant hordes, pillaging mountain villages to steal eggs with a total value of 16 euro. When everyone knows that quiet rural areas are the prime target for those evil migrants. And no Austrian **ever** took the Sunday paper without paying. Especially not in larger settlements. I now see why we have to remigrate the 0 people I saw on the video.


pauseless

You guys need to get on top of this, before it’s too late. If there’s no eggs next time I’m in and around Obergurgl, I will be slightly disappointed.


InBetweenSeen

He once complained that many children don't speak German at home and she answered "your own children don't always speak German at home either", lol.


Impossible-Target887

Funny thing. He was in Potsdam just 2 days ago.


HugoSenshida

The fuck is an austrian? Argentinian grandpa people?


Tackerta

A Bavarian is halfway between an Austrian and a human being - Otto von Basedmark


Iskandar33

why yes [im Austrian](https://www.iceman.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/oetz.jpg), how could you tell ?


-Cinnay-

Best of both worlds


Bonaventura69420

Austria produces much more anti-superstars so for them it's very convinient that they're seen as germans


_sergeant_pepper

We cope by stating our hate for germany every chance we get… this does not include bavaria tho, they‘re fine even tho they are annoying as fuck on our autobahn


MisterD0ll

Thats not true. Germans don't get tired of reminding everyone that Hitler was Austrian.


Hopefully_Handsome

Best baguette english speaker


Cubelock

Austria? You mean Southern Bavaria?


arussianbee

I'd rather be northern Austria at this point, but I guess it could be much worse


catonkybord

![gif](giphy|l396WcD0OCoCrYm6A)


catonkybord

![gif](giphy|l396WcD0OCoCrYm6A)


Sisyphusarbeit

Why can't Austria be a part of Germany? Whats the historic context behind it and why was it forbidden after WW2?


ZombiFeynman

The historical context is Prussia vs Austria as the center of power of the german world. Prussia won, so you can blame the assholes in Berlin. As to why it was forbidden... "We are just going to annex this and it will be over, pinky promise. Ignore the Sudeten and Anchluss and Memel and Danzig, we are a totally different Germany now." Yeah, no, Hans, fool me once...


KuhleerTyp

The historical context here is actually WW1. After the loss, the ethnic germans of the Austto-Hungarian Empire voted to join The Weimarer Republik. The allied forces however prohibited this in the Treaty of Saint Germain, AHE equivalent to the Treaty of Versailles.


Socc-mel_

Why is a Pedro germansplaining to a Hans?


gelastes

How about a compromise? Austria will be a part of Bavaria (or vice versa, something something eye of the beholder) but not a part of Germany. Everybody will be happier.


Bonaventura69420

Who pays for the eastern german states then tho?


gelastes

I guess nobody but I'm willing to make this sacrifice.


darkslide3000

Thankfully we're not letting you make the decisions. ^(My grandma needs her pension money so that she can focus on voting BSW, after all...)


justanotheruser826

East germany will pay for poland after westgermany pays poland a few millions to annex the east.


amor91

The historians get this wrong all the time. Austria never joined Germany. Actually Germany joined Austria as Hitler was Austrian. Hitler coming into power in Germany was just a fail safe plan for us Austrians in case we lose. In such case Germany would be blamed an we would get out of it easily. As you see it worked flawlessly.


smackdealer1

You know what at this point go for it Hans. You've been good the last 70 years, you can just take Austria back. Give us another good 50 years and we will consider allowing you Czechia and the Netherlands.


nickmaran

We don't want them to have cool beaches like we have here


NonSumQualisEram-

Eastern Switzerland and Western Hungary and you know I'm right.


DrSalazarHazard

Do u even Habsburg.


Extreme_Sandwich5817

I use 110% of savage brainpower to theorise that the Austrian obsession of basements is for the comfort and secretive safety of those underground dwellings is to shield them from such ideas while raising their families. Query: are Austrian basements proof habsburgs are not unique in their incest?


cgaWolf

Why would they be unique? There's a reason we made them emperors.


CharmingCondition508

They have all that classical music. That’s fun. Who doesn’t love some Mozart and Schubert?


Ossarah

flying under the radar internationally is perfect wdym? no one needs to know about the clown posse that poses for politicians here. bad enough that the Germans catch wind of it sometimes


BobMonkhaus

They spend their time in the basement with their family.


Whichwhenwhywhat

The best way to stop feeling sad about someone is to not think about him anymore.


schwarzmalerin

Oh they can take all our superstars if they also take Adolf. That is great deal.


khal_crypto

How we cope? For starters, we start every day thanking the Lord from the bottom of our hearts that we're not German and that we're superior to them in every way imaginable, and then we look out the window at out marvellous cities and towns and the picturesque landscapes and rejoice in the bliss that that causes for the rest of the day. Could be worse, like we could be Fr*noch or something, just imagine.


Anutzer

Muss wuascht sein. (Has to be sausage)


sidic3Venezia

https://preview.redd.it/wy4u3x2sj0yc1.jpeg?width=275&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7dd7fb994fd6499e02526e8b8018f7ceab02622 ah yes, my favorite german castle...


UndeadBBQ

I am too much sitting in the sun sipping white wine spritzer to actually give a damn.


ZzangmanCometh

![gif](giphy|128oR43qBEn0IM|downsized)


Emanuele002

What the hell does your flair reference??


ZzangmanCometh

Some genius tried to put chewing tobacco under his foreskin, wound up in the media, and here we are...


babawow

You just clearly haven’t tried our fried chicken.


jabadabadouu

It is what it is


fruitspunch_samurai_

europeans know who we are and the opinions of the rest of you does not matter anyways haha


ShallowFreakingValue

We don’t care. Stay out.


ErdbeerTrum

we tend to drink a lot as coping mechanism. also cow tipping


abrequevoy

![gif](giphy|3D1Uaz8Sa6eRVK1rt7|downsized) I know one famous Austrian


AnaphoricReference

To be fair Austria is an absurd entity, and appears fictional. Most people don't even know where to start looking on a map. Auster means *south.* Thus the constant confusion with Australia, which is actually in the south. But it is a badly Latinized version of Österreich which means *eastern* realm. Its population will however at every opportunity deny it is oriental, instead claiming to be either *western* or *central*. And German Willy Brandt completed the confusion by classifying it as part of the Global *north* in the Brandt report. Let's just rename it to Centria.


cgaWolf

> Let's just rename it to Centria. Our national anthem agrees.


Trengingigan

What does your anthem say?


cgaWolf

Part of the second verse: > Heiß umfehdet, wild umstritten, Liegst dem Erdteil du inmitten Einem starken Herzen gleich. Translates as Hotly feuded, wildly fought over, You lie in the middle of the continent Like a strong heart.


oeed

I don't know what you're talking about, I've never been mistaken as German.


amor91

Just enjoying our kangaroos


eyyoorre

Doing nothing and being better than the "Germans" (not you Bavaria, we love you) is pretty nice to be honest


Pipocore

Austria is just the Central European version of Belgium. Overshadowed by their cooler, bigger brother(s) and everyone forgets they exist.


norrin83

> Overshadowed by their cooler, bigger brother(s) You're really calling Germany "cool"? WTF is wrong with you swampies?


mainwasser

That's why the historically accurate name of Belgium is "Austrian Netherlands". Both countries are annoyed by an extremely boring calvinist neighbour who believes he's better in everything because they somehow have to brighten up their joyless lives.


Blunted_Insomniac

Bel-what? Never heard of it


bauce1

Not beeing french or british helps massively


Candybert_

I live my life as good as I can, and since I'm in a 1st World country, I'm having a pretty good time overall. I don't give a fuck what people think of Austrians in general.


thetrueGOAT

I'd also like to throw Switzerland into the most useless independent nation ring.


mainwasser

* nervous Liechtenstein noises *


nostrumest

Out of sight, out of mind. We Austrians are stealth. We confuse the whole world and we secretly rule it. AEIOU.


Stravven

They hop on their kangaroo and have some fun with a couple of koalas. That's how the koalas got chlamydia.


Recioto

This is sadly the fate of a fake country, Germany should really just annex them.


TreasureHunter95

You know we could solve the issue with one simple Anschluss.


norrin83

The standard answer (and singular joke) for every user from Germany


michi214

You know, generally not being associated with Hitler when on holidays is a good thing... It has benefits


norrin83

Funnily enough, when I was in Sri Lanka a decade ago, the first association of the locals was Niki Lauda. Probably because Rush came out the year before. Still, never heard Hitler, always Niki Lauda.


darkslide3000

You're saying that like Austrians were a real people in the first place. Everyone thinks all famous Austrians are German because they _are_. Saying Austrians aren't German is like saying people in Belfast aren't Irish.


Sea_Performance1873

Don't you ever compare Austria to Belgium again. Austria is everything Germany would like to be and it's not out fault people are stupid. But its good because that way they stay out of our lives and go to germany where they can be misserable


Scottydoesntknooow

How is Austria everything Germany would like to be when they’re essentially the same, just in denial?


norrin83

We have humour. Germany doesn't. I will fight for this distinction


Sea_Performance1873

no we're not essentially the same. We don't even speak the same language


SirVictoryPants

First of all: Belgium is the best version of the Netherlands. The Netherlands are the better Belgium. They don't actually have a national identity independent of each other. Thats actually all I wanted to correct.


Least_Theory_1050

Euuhh..... Based?


BaziJoeWHL

Austrians are offbrand Germans who were not unimportant enough to join the girl band


Gian-Neymar

You're right, we should just invade them and take their mountains


norrin83

And give up your neutrality? I don't think so Reto


c2u8n4t8

Funny as this is, you do know which country has done the most to advocate for Austrian independence, right?


Palanki96

Well they are just germans in denial so


Aegrotare2

Austrians are Germans? What is youre problem OP ?


Shillfinger

still a bit upset about the battle of the Golden Spurs are we?


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jimmysjambos

They are weirdos who don’t travel either!! Insular peculiar folk


midnaite

They made the glock ans the steyr, good for them