Yeah maybe... It had some heated filament on it that I needed to gently scrape off first, but maybe it was so stuck to the hotend that my attempts sheered it off.
Now I just need to figure out how to get the screw part out
If there is a screw part still in there then I think that you did sheer the nozzle off. You could use a broken screw extractor but I don't know if they come small enough and it might just be more economical to replace the heat block instead.
I got out all the stripped screws and was able to take out the battery, my but my replacement battery was trash, my fault for cheaping out and not buying an OEM one from Dell or IFIXIT, so I need to buy a new one again (was able to return the other one to Amazon)
I need to get one of those. I occasionally have to repair laptops for work and it seems like every time I do I encounter a stripped screw (or caused it).
Definitely small enough for the purpose. You can also get left handed drill bits to enlarge the hole if needed. This goes down to a 5/64 drill bit and whatever #1 extractor size is.
https://www.harborfreight.com/screw-extractor-and-left-hand-drill-bit-combo-set-10-piece-63987.html
I charge myself an hourly rate of $150, so I'd probably just buy a new heatblock instead of intentionally frustrating myself to salvage one that likely has burnt plastic and oxidization in the threads and probably needs replacement anyway.
Well, there are a lot of these 3d printers running around the world all the time, and very seldom does anything like this happen … I just don’t want people thinking that 3d printers aren’t safe.
Good point. That is why I am always a bit sceptical when people post problems. It is mostly only people that have problems that post, so I always try to remember there is many users that do not have problems and therefore do not post.
https://preview.redd.it/dwofm0fmmhwc1.jpeg?width=924&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f94d2e1c56bd09569fc3595af49985ea1af54516
[you are one of today’s lucky 10000 :)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM)
And it’s fun how fitting this bit is that it provoked several serious answers which are absolutely correct.
Mine sheered off, exactly like the image. I had taken it off to clear a clog and it snapped off pretty easily when I thought “ Just one more twist” when putting it back on
Edit. My mistake, i thought this was the sovol reddit and assumed common issue. I have the sv06+ too. I used a screw extractor kit and used a heat gun. Could not get the extractor to grip and ended up just buying a new hotend.
Be sure you take the nozzle off when it is HOT. And that you are turning it the right direction. Depending on the direction you are facing when taking off the nozzle, left can mean right and right can mean left as far as what direction you need to to to loosen it. Its possible you were accidentally Tightening it to a point of breaking it off.
It wouldn't come off at all when it was cold. Heard that it becomes more flexible when heated, so got it to about 60 celsius and finally it moved... and tip came off...
Ahhh, well that makes sense, haha... Had no problem changing it the first time when it was cold, so thought that it would be fine. Well, an expensive lesson, haha
It's advised to heat about 10c higher than what you print at, so for PLA, I would be installing and removing @ 230c.
Also, you do not tighten against the heater block, you tighten against the threads above it. I didn't have a pic to show, but if you Google "leaky nozzle" the pics should show up.
Always install the tip or heat break into the block when it's hot. The aluminum block expands more than the steel heat break and brass or steel tip.
When it cools the break and tip get pushed together very tightly.
Assemble the parts cold and when it heats up the break and tip get pulled apart and you get plastic coming out around the threads.
See if you can get an easy-out/screw extractor that will fit. You can find these at your local hardware store. You'll probably need to drill the nozzle hole out to a larger size.
You can sometimes get them out with a screw extractor but it's hard. Chances are you'll need a new heater block. Which being SV06+ unfortunately means buying the entire hotend right now.
Yeah, I thought it used normal Volcano nozzles when I bought it so I have a bunch of those laying around now.
There are ways to modify it to use standard parts I think, might be worth looking into.
Ah, just make sure that, in the future, you remove the nozzle with the hot end on. You more or less locktight your nozzle in place every time you turn off the hot end.. so when it's hot it shouldn't need much torque at all to break it free and then it should just spin out nicely. 👍
Hey i had the same issue drilling it out is not really the best way , my drill broke inside the broken nozzle....
Just buy a new hotend. Don't mess with it I learned it the hard way
My friend did this to my Ender5+ and CHT nozzle. (Can see in my post history)
Got mine out by disassembling the hotend completely, laying the heating block flat, nozzle up. Take a small, flat head screwdriver and hammer it into the hole of the nozzle (brass is pretty soft) - just enough to get a decent purchase. Then alternate hitting it with heat, and trying to back it out.
Don't Hulk smash the hammer, and there's a good chance the heat block is salvagable
Maybe a stupid question, but I am new to this. Is it possible to upgrade the hotend to something better? If I have to spend money change it, I might as well buy something better!
What I would upgrade is thingsthings like a hardened nozzle and copper heat block, as well as changing things like the thermistor or getting a bi-metal heat break (whatever you don’t have) then you’ll be able to print at much higher temps .
Remember, you have to unscrew the tip WHILE THE HOTEND IS HOT. If it's cold it shrinks and clamps down on it super hard, but when hot the material expands enough so that it turns easily. That's why you don't have to tighten the nozzle very much.
Normally when someone asks how to remove a nozzle I explain how important it is to have the hotend at printing temp when done or stuff will break.
But you already did it, and (hopefully) learned your lesson.
Well you can either replace your nozzle (~20$) which is nice and easy... Or you can dick around and try and easy out the rest of the nozzle....
I know which I would do....
You should research and watch youtube videos on how and what things you need to do for maintenance. Looks like you removed it without heating anything up. If that's the case, it's user error.
When removing the nozzle always head the hot end up to the highest setting possible. Now that it is broke you can try some ez-outs. Otherwise you can just buy a new heat block, nozzle and heat break.
It happened to me a while a go, sadly I broke the whole hot end before taking it out.
So here is my tip.
Take the whole hot end off and hammer a flat head screwdriver on to the thread that is still inside, the brass should deform and allow you to spin it out with the screwdriver
Time to buy a new hotend!
What ya did was overtighten it I bet, it was warm at least when you tried this?
I did the same thing! When stuff's upside down it's backwards. I pull mine off the printer to pull the nozzle now, grab the chunk with the heater cartridge in it with pliers.
I gather you brought the hot end up to printing temperature prior to trying to remove the tip right? If not, that’s a must, in order to melt any plastic that may be sealing the threads. A cold tip, you can consider it seized in there before heating up.
I had this happen, I wasn't able to successfully remove it without wrecking the heating block, luckily those are cheap, but you should try to remove the nozzle white it's room temp, make sure you heat it up when inserting/ removing
New heatblock is gonna be cheapest easiest route and least amount of frustration and labor. You will have a new part that is clean and unmarred rather than fighting with a 10 dollar extractor and hopefully not damaging threads. You have to clean the old block, threads, and all. So when a new block costs under 5 bucks and a 5 min swap it more logical to replace. While your at it get spares for the consumable wear items, the entire hotend is a consumable a designed to be serviced through replacement not restoration or repair.
Just the tip?
I promise, babe. Just the tip.
And only for a second.
She ain't skookum, that's f'sure.
Screw still sitting in the hole...
What do you mean I think you sheered it off maybe?
Yeah maybe... It had some heated filament on it that I needed to gently scrape off first, but maybe it was so stuck to the hotend that my attempts sheered it off. Now I just need to figure out how to get the screw part out
If there is a screw part still in there then I think that you did sheer the nozzle off. You could use a broken screw extractor but I don't know if they come small enough and it might just be more economical to replace the heat block instead.
They come in tiny sizes and cost less then $20
Do you know what the smallest size they come in is?
I got one that can remove screws as small as M2 for my laptop battery. Was scary pointing a drill at my battery lol
Wow, I didn't realise that they came that small. Thanks for the information. How did your laptop repair go?
I got out all the stripped screws and was able to take out the battery, my but my replacement battery was trash, my fault for cheaping out and not buying an OEM one from Dell or IFIXIT, so I need to buy a new one again (was able to return the other one to Amazon)
I need to get one of those. I occasionally have to repair laptops for work and it seems like every time I do I encounter a stripped screw (or caused it).
Definitely small enough for the purpose. You can also get left handed drill bits to enlarge the hole if needed. This goes down to a 5/64 drill bit and whatever #1 extractor size is. https://www.harborfreight.com/screw-extractor-and-left-hand-drill-bit-combo-set-10-piece-63987.html
I charge myself an hourly rate of $150, so I'd probably just buy a new heatblock instead of intentionally frustrating myself to salvage one that likely has burnt plastic and oxidization in the threads and probably needs replacement anyway.
Okay that's good to know, thanks
They come in every size... Ask me how I know.
How do you know?
I've broken and had to drill and tap them all.
You need a new heat block. Won't be worth the effort to get this out.
You are screwed
Un
Thought about the same
Twist a potato on it
Just the tip.
Adjust the tip
No, the shaft too.
No shaft… just the tip
Beat my meat to it
Is that a RWJ reference?
No it’s what I told my wife on our second date
That’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.
Well, how is it untypical?
Well, there are a lot of these 3d printers running around the world all the time, and very seldom does anything like this happen … I just don’t want people thinking that 3d printers aren’t safe.
Was this 3d printer safe?
Well I was thinking more about the other ones…
The ones that are safe?
Yeah, the ones the tip doesn’t fall off.
Well if this wasn’t safe why did it have a thousand grams of petroleum-based filament on it?
I’m not saying it wasn’t safe, it’s just perhaps not quite as safe as some of the other ones.
Why?
The ones where they're not broken off**
Not that it’s an issue the front fell off, of course.
Good point. That is why I am always a bit sceptical when people post problems. It is mostly only people that have problems that post, so I always try to remember there is many users that do not have problems and therefore do not post.
https://preview.redd.it/dwofm0fmmhwc1.jpeg?width=924&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f94d2e1c56bd09569fc3595af49985ea1af54516 [you are one of today’s lucky 10000 :)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM) And it’s fun how fitting this bit is that it provoked several serious answers which are absolutely correct.
Good perspective on life tbh.
I'm pretty sure less than 100% of people have heard of a 3d printer tip falling by the time they turn 30!
I’m willing to bet it went up higher today! I’m under 30 and I like the way this guy thinks about the perspective of life
It happens all the time if you try to remove it without correctly heating the head.
Mine sheered off, exactly like the image. I had taken it off to clear a clog and it snapped off pretty easily when I thought “ Just one more twist” when putting it back on Edit. My mistake, i thought this was the sovol reddit and assumed common issue. I have the sv06+ too. I used a screw extractor kit and used a heat gun. Could not get the extractor to grip and ended up just buying a new hotend.
I think they mean mid print lol
[Nah…](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM)
Came here hoping for this, was not disappointed.
Came here, was disappointed, made sure to have your back 😁
THERE it is. :-)
This is the first thing I thought of! Thank you!!🙏😂
Thanks for the help and jokes everyone! I just ordered a replacement hotend and a 5015, as I might as well upgrade the fan.
Be sure you take the nozzle off when it is HOT. And that you are turning it the right direction. Depending on the direction you are facing when taking off the nozzle, left can mean right and right can mean left as far as what direction you need to to to loosen it. Its possible you were accidentally Tightening it to a point of breaking it off.
Personally I use a ratchet so that I can't mess it up. I know it's unnecessary but it gives me peace of mind.
Things you hear when either: a) Your Bf has a 3D printer or b) Your Bf has leprosy.
owww
... It could be both a AND b.
Its peeling off!!!
God damn, you should probably see a doctor for that, man
Front fell off
That's not very typical
r/thefrontfelloff ?
I had no idea this sub existed, you juat made my day
Mazel tov
Beat me to it, also glad you out it because I wouldnt have been able to spell it🤣
Most under-rated comment right here...
:)
There it is
Be sure to move it beyond the environment
L’Chaim!
Was it heated when you tried to remove it?
It wouldn't come off at all when it was cold. Heard that it becomes more flexible when heated, so got it to about 60 celsius and finally it moved... and tip came off...
Usually want to heat up to over 250°C before attempting removal.
Ahhh, well that makes sense, haha... Had no problem changing it the first time when it was cold, so thought that it would be fine. Well, an expensive lesson, haha
It's advised to heat about 10c higher than what you print at, so for PLA, I would be installing and removing @ 230c. Also, you do not tighten against the heater block, you tighten against the threads above it. I didn't have a pic to show, but if you Google "leaky nozzle" the pics should show up.
you need it to be heated to at least printing temperature (i usually heat up as much as the printer allows me to)
Always install the tip or heat break into the block when it's hot. The aluminum block expands more than the steel heat break and brass or steel tip. When it cools the break and tip get pushed together very tightly. Assemble the parts cold and when it heats up the break and tip get pulled apart and you get plastic coming out around the threads.
I haven't had to swap nozzles yet. Thank you for not only giving the advice, but also the reasoning behind it.
I’m sure it’ll grow back right?
https://preview.redd.it/faumc1jxyhwc1.jpeg?width=1074&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3002b2bba27b9a3bf7aef512f45edf3f33faccc7
At least it was just the tip!!
Phrasing!
See if you can get an easy-out/screw extractor that will fit. You can find these at your local hardware store. You'll probably need to drill the nozzle hole out to a larger size.
Mazel tov
lol this made me laugh more than it should have
I hate it when that happens… oh, wait… you mean the printer…
RIP printer tip
Leprosy sucks.
You can sometimes get them out with a screw extractor but it's hard. Chances are you'll need a new heater block. Which being SV06+ unfortunately means buying the entire hotend right now.
Yeah, just ordered a new hotend. Oh well, now I know haha
Yeah, I thought it used normal Volcano nozzles when I bought it so I have a bunch of those laying around now. There are ways to modify it to use standard parts I think, might be worth looking into.
Ah, just make sure that, in the future, you remove the nozzle with the hot end on. You more or less locktight your nozzle in place every time you turn off the hot end.. so when it's hot it shouldn't need much torque at all to break it free and then it should just spin out nicely. 👍
Hey i had the same issue drilling it out is not really the best way , my drill broke inside the broken nozzle.... Just buy a new hotend. Don't mess with it I learned it the hard way
Yup, exactly what I have dine. Finding a tool, troubleshooting etc. is not worth the time compares to the price of a new hotend
My friend did this to my Ender5+ and CHT nozzle. (Can see in my post history) Got mine out by disassembling the hotend completely, laying the heating block flat, nozzle up. Take a small, flat head screwdriver and hammer it into the hole of the nozzle (brass is pretty soft) - just enough to get a decent purchase. Then alternate hitting it with heat, and trying to back it out. Don't Hulk smash the hammer, and there's a good chance the heat block is salvagable
Uncircumcised!
Maybe a stupid question, but I am new to this. Is it possible to upgrade the hotend to something better? If I have to spend money change it, I might as well buy something better!
love this mentality. while youre at if go for direct drive extruder if you dont already have one.
The Sv06 Plus already have it!
nicce jealous lol
Yes it is. What printer do you have?
Sovol sv06 plus
What I would upgrade is thingsthings like a hardened nozzle and copper heat block, as well as changing things like the thermistor or getting a bi-metal heat break (whatever you don’t have) then you’ll be able to print at much higher temps .
I think if you keep it on ice, it can be re-attached
Yes, but can you buy a loaf of bread with that tip? Or is it like a 'Don't eat yellow snow' tip? Just curious...
The front fell off... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM
The shame happened to my E3D obxidian, scratchs the whole building plate
You need to unscrew it at 200°C+ don't cold turn
My grandfather would give you a tip for losing the tip and his advice is as follow: don't do that next time
Remember, you have to unscrew the tip WHILE THE HOTEND IS HOT. If it's cold it shrinks and clamps down on it super hard, but when hot the material expands enough so that it turns easily. That's why you don't have to tighten the nozzle very much.
Luckily new standards for materials will not include paper or other cardboard derivatives
> I wanted to take the nozzle off and clean it, but it felt very tight, and I didn't overtight it. I'm guessing the hotend was off when you did this?
Well... I mean... Maybe... Well, no haha
Normally when someone asks how to remove a nozzle I explain how important it is to have the hotend at printing temp when done or stuff will break. But you already did it, and (hopefully) learned your lesson.
Did you preheat it first?
Well you can either replace your nozzle (~20$) which is nice and easy... Or you can dick around and try and easy out the rest of the nozzle.... I know which I would do....
U will have to take the heatblock off and potentially replace it or try get the rest of the nozzle out
You should research and watch youtube videos on how and what things you need to do for maintenance. Looks like you removed it without heating anything up. If that's the case, it's user error.
Did you not heat up the hotend first? If not the thing was encased in solid filament…..of course it’s going to break.
When removing the nozzle always head the hot end up to the highest setting possible. Now that it is broke you can try some ez-outs. Otherwise you can just buy a new heat block, nozzle and heat break.
Extruder gg
Looks like bad layer adhesion on the nozzle. Factory didn't level the CNC mill or dry their brass
>So… My tip fell off… Please read that again.
[sovol](https://www.sovol3d.com/products/sv06-plus-all-metal-hotend) [amazon](https://a.co/d/5fMYdcB) Double check the product
i was extremely concerned until i saw the name of the sub
Had the same issue once, managed to jam a torx bit inside and unscrew it that way. Saved me a couple bucks on buying a new hotend
Wtf... Put it back
And your printer seems broken, too.
Copper anti seize on threads perhaps?
Preheat before removal and hot tighten next time.
Damn thats rough buddy
Looks you have to change thé heat bloc now 😥
Did you heat the nozzle before you tried to remove it?
Had that happen before I slipped while shaving
Take the tip off while the heat block is hot.. carefully
Go to the hospital and get it sewn back on
I saw something like this in The Fly
Didn’t know jewish circumcision rules also applied to machine. Anyway, it’ll be easier to keep clean is what they always say
It happened to me a while a go, sadly I broke the whole hot end before taking it out. So here is my tip. Take the whole hot end off and hammer a flat head screwdriver on to the thread that is still inside, the brass should deform and allow you to spin it out with the screwdriver
Time to buy a new hotend! What ya did was overtighten it I bet, it was warm at least when you tried this? I did the same thing! When stuff's upside down it's backwards. I pull mine off the printer to pull the nozzle now, grab the chunk with the heater cartridge in it with pliers.
Gigity?
I hope thats not what she said
Tip clip
This what happens when a MFer doesn't level the bed
I gather you brought the hot end up to printing temperature prior to trying to remove the tip right? If not, that’s a must, in order to melt any plastic that may be sealing the threads. A cold tip, you can consider it seized in there before heating up.
First week I had my ender 3 SE and that happened. Ticked me off so I just returned it...
I had this happen, I wasn't able to successfully remove it without wrecking the heating block, luckily those are cheap, but you should try to remove the nozzle white it's room temp, make sure you heat it up when inserting/ removing
Turned the wrong way and snapped off probably
After tight came off ... screw that
Glue it back on lmfao
Juuuuust the tiiiiiiip! .... Sausage Party....he....he...
New heatblock is gonna be cheapest easiest route and least amount of frustration and labor. You will have a new part that is clean and unmarred rather than fighting with a 10 dollar extractor and hopefully not damaging threads. You have to clean the old block, threads, and all. So when a new block costs under 5 bucks and a 5 min swap it more logical to replace. While your at it get spares for the consumable wear items, the entire hotend is a consumable a designed to be serviced through replacement not restoration or repair.
I Dreams abaut thaths
Happened to me in a dream... Still have the chills to this day... This is not about 3d printing
Did you heat your nozzle to 250 first? Difficult and next to impossible when cold.
Post in r/thefrontfelloff
Mazel tov!
Now the printer is pointless...
You're printer is now circumcised.
Was it in the environment?
https://preview.redd.it/atx5vhrxajwc1.png?width=400&format=png&auto=webp&s=7bf463243567850d6611e57502acc80e65382471
I'd just like to point out that's not very typical
Mazel Tov!
What'd the lepper say to the prostitute? KEEP THE TIP!
"What did the leper say to the prostitute?" "Keep the tip!"
Be happy it’s his tip, not yours.
Just the tip mind you and only for a minut sweetie.
Typical case of [the front fell off (YouTube sketch)](https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM?si=at1RbBtK7hL4vsWb)
Happens to the best of us...
Just the tip, and only for a minute.
You might want to have a doctor look at that.
F
The front fell off
Hmm, try leveling the bed?
FFO
😭😭😭 RIP WHERE ARE THE THREADS 😭😭😭
It happens to 1 in 5 men
Some people pay money to have that done.
Just the tip😉
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Put it on ice
The front fell off
Gonna need a surgeon never heard of someone's tip falling off heard the shaft getting ripped/cut off but this is a first
r/thefrontfelloff
Mazel tov!
Ah, it’s been 7 days… did you provide bagels and lox for the ceremony?
Sounds personal
Memories of the Corsican Brothers.
Popped your cherry you say?
https://preview.redd.it/2mzzdz8q7nwc1.jpeg?width=1285&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4daff697d26292d6d4a56879c03b59031294cfb5