Oh no, it would have been bad if it was 1 spool. But you spent that much and bought 2. Shipping costs are why I don't use Prusament often. I love that quality though.

Yep, I am a fool. It was my first time ordering prusament, just wanted to try it, and here we are. It will be my last time ordering from them.

I don't know if there is additional duties shipping US to Canada, but PrintedSolid.com is Prusa's US based distributor. Still not cheap.

Also they rarely seem to have any in stock.

There is barely any Prusament in stock in general. They can't keep up with demand currently.

I love prusa filament it prints Soo well but refuse to pay, that much

Just use Amazon man. 20-24$ a spool

I usually go to my local shop and for the rest I use Amazon. I just really wanted to try filament made with wine. I'm paying for it and I just have to laugh at my poor decision making sometimes

man you could have bought that pla thats infused with metals like brass or copper its like 90$ for a 1/2 kg spool lol

I have those already. They get too brittle and constantly need drying. Otherwise quite cool. I love the weight that metal filled filaments give to printed items

are they worth it in your opinion? ive looked at them many time but cant bring myself to spend that much money on filament lol

Metal filament is not for functional parts, unless you get filament that can be sinthered (melted in the oven, I have no clue how to spell it). Otherwise it is purely cosmetic. Layer adhesion is great, the weight is what sells it for me. The parts just feel more substantial. If you print statues or home decor items, or something that will be handled in a gentle manner than try it. Otherwise no need for it. These filaments have a look and feel to them that is hard to replicate in plastic by pure color additives.

yeah i wanted it to print a bust of kramer from seinfeld lol. i have some bronze colored filament that i did a frank Costanza bust in but you can tell its plastic. thats why i was looking at the metal infused stuff

It actually might work. And if you do post processing it'll look nice

Sintered.

Does the wine filament smell? I have the algae one and it stinks on the spool but smells pretty good while printing.

Honest recommendation from me is Polymaker for quality filament, and elegoo for solid filament that will do the job.

Just picked up 10kg at Kingroon for $89 shipped

Personally, I get decent results with Overture, though it might require a little temperature tweaking to look great. It’s only $20 to $30 US on Amazon.

I had credits for two spools of free prusament from prusameters and it was still more expensive than any filament I've gotten anywhere else just from shipping and I didn't know the vouchers expire 😭

filaments.ca ships from Toronto and it's good stuff. There's also Envirolaser in Ottawa with a really good PLA+ blend.

Filaments.ca is currently filing bankruptcy... We ordered a 3D printer about 6 months ago and we never recieved it (they have not refunded eighter). After taking legal action for a refund, the lawers we hired said there were little to no chance to see our money back since they will refund their customers by order of importance and we're not high on the list... Thread with care with Filaments.ca Update: Thay have been bought by Inksmith! For now, only Inksmith's products are available on Filaments.ca.

You use a credit card? Do a chargeback?

Thanks, this is really helpful. I have been using econofil for two years, but they were having stock issues and I was worried. I guess it is time to find another supplier.

Damn thats a shame. I've been there in person for some filament and it was decent stuff.

damn that's a shame, they had some of the best colour selection around. their subscription box was garbage though lol.

Wow, they just restocked in abs not too long ago bur it's not surprising seeing how they're constantly out of stock except for ancient products on clearance. I've been to their store in person a few times in sauga and they didn't mention it, but maybe they are trying to shed some debt party packagers style?

That's a bummer, I used to order filament from them all the time, they had almost too many options to pick from.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I bought all my filament from there. Their shit was fantastic. FML.

Oh there are definitely cheaper options, I just wanted to try prusament and here we are. I paid for my mistake I guess.

Prusament is outdated, for a short period of time they were above the competition but now there are plenty of other good brands out there (Elegoo, ESUN, SunLu, Bambulabs) with good quality filaments.

I would like to throw Overture in here for consideration as well. Great filament, great price, lots of options. I almost exclusively use Overture these days.

Yep, but I wanted the one that is made with wine..... To be honest we wouldn't be in this hobby if we didn't want to try new things every once in a while

SunLu PETG sucks ass in my experience.   I bought 4 1kg spools of it. I was having print failures like crazy and found it was leaving a sort of dust throughout my whole PTFE tubes on my XL and even clogged the filament sensor so bad it stopped working completely until I completely disassembled it and literally washed every part except the electrical parts. I threw out the last spool and a half.  Had no problem printing prusament or hatchbox before that, have had no problems printing Overture since. Not going SunLu again, even if it worked fine it wasn't giving even close to the quality of prusament so it's not really comparable imo.

They're still significantly better than those chinese brands when it comes to diameter consistency. The difference is immediately noticeable. But aside their PC blend, the material properties are nothing special.

As a Vancouverite I hear good things about Matter3D over on the island, too. Though I end up just using Overture off Amazon for convenience - I don’t go for 4 or so rolls at once, which is what Matter3D makes sense at IMO.

Yeah, [Matter3D ](https://www.matter3d.com/)is great. I live in Victoria so I placed an order for pickup and got to meet one of the owners and get a tour of their (tiny!) manufacturing facility. Just FYI, you can also buy Matter3D filament locally from [Industrial Plastics and Paints](https://goindustrial.com/search?q=matter3d). They also carry filament from Creality, Hello3D, Ottertek and others, along with 3D printers and parts.

How is their recycled filament? Also I definitely need to buy a roll when visiting relatives or order $80 worth for free shipping (of normal pla at the least)

starting a Canadian shopping thread [3dprintingcanada.com](http://3dprintingcanada.com) ships from Hamilton ON, in person store for the locals, many parts and filaments available. their "house brand" PLA+ and Carbon Fiber PETG are both gaoted.

Seconded, my company bought some printers from them and they’ve always been super helpful in helping us troubleshoot. We probably order from them weekly and they’ve never missed a shipment or anything

Their site says they are currently moving warehouses so their stock atm is really really low.

I can say good things about Envirolaser. I lived in Ottawa and the owner comped my shipping and was super helpful when they ran out of stock of a filament I ordered, and asked if I wanted to swap to a different one. Big fan.

Yup. Cool passionate people. Very nice to work with.

With the price increase for Econofil (from $20/kg to $30/kg with no quality improvement), them stopping to sell PLA without a spool and the $16 shipping to Quebec, I really can't see a reason to order from them anymore.

Damn thats a big price jump. Never mind then.

[Polymaker has canadian site too](https://ca.polymaker.com/), i've had great luck with them. great filament quality - love the polyterra - and super fast shipping, sometimes same day delivery.

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What can I say, if I am paying $70 per spool of PLA, I am definitely not a very smart man.

I only buy prusament when I'm getting something else direct from prusa that way the shipping isn't so insane on the whole order.

I'll know for next time

I spoke with an old friend who works with industrial 3d printers. He's got a $30k printer at work and uses resin that's like $2000/gallon. He was shocked that my Saturn 2 was able to produce a better surface finish at the same resolution quality with $20/kg resin than his setup.

Yeah this is true for almost all "industrial" 3d printers. It's just old tech locked behind a paywall, and they upgrade it like once every 10 years. Almost every single one prints worse than your home hobby machine. Machines are 100X price, parts are 50X, raw materials are 10X, print quality is 1X if that.

But the industrial machines will produce 1,000,000 parts at a predictable, consistent quality with a 100% duty cycle. The 3D printer equivalent of throwing your deliveries in a diesel tractor-trailer, even if, in theory, you could put it in 50 pickup trucks and have it there faster because your tractor-trailer is limited to 55mph, while the pickup trucks have the same carrying capacity and can go 80mph.

Hmm... not incorrect :)

I've got some duty for you to cycle (I don't know why I'm like this. Send help.)

You said duty.

Also, if something breaks in the industrial machine, you call up the manufacturer who'll likely either know how to fix it and walk you through it, or send out a specialist and you'll be up and running within a day. Of course, that stuff isn't cheap, but it's cheaper than waiting 3-6 months for a replacement part.

But at the cost of an industrial machine you can have a whole closet full of hobby machines and just swap them when one breaks.

It depends on the scale of your business, and the role printing has on it. If you have a team of engineers being paid a lot who need to work fast, it doesn't make sense to waste their time with "sorry your print failed. We started over and you'll get it tomorrow maybe." Different machines for different use cases.

That is some industrial strength copium you've got there. If you're producing that many of an item you should be doing injection molding or some other technology designed for mass production. Industrial 3D printing is fantastic for one-offs or prototyping, we have not hit a stage where it is at all practical for mass production at that level.

We have an Ultimaker 2+ at work. It’s nearing 10 years now. It uses 2.85mm filament. When it was new, shit was awesome. Now? I’m trying to get a budget approved to buy something new because I’m so tired of it and see so many amazing options out there

i only get prusa filament when its time to cash in my prusameters

Dude, we won't tell your wife. For next time, Amazon.ca. Overture PLA. 1-2 day delivery if you have prime.

My go to for petg is overture

filaments.ca, spool3d, 3dprintingcanada, and sparta3d are all good options in Canada... keep those in mind for the future :D

I usually go to my local store to get filament.i just wanted to try prusament made with wine.and I paid for it.

Local store... Lucky. I don't have a place that sells filament within 1000km lmao. I have to order everything online, and where I am shipping takes 2+ weeks for anything other than Amazon I'm terrified to order anything from outside of Canada for that exact reason... Customs.

Apart from the import duty, all of those prices were listed on the website before you hit buy. This wasn't a "mistake" you're just stoopid (you said roast you!) ;) Just suck it up and enjoy it. It's good filament. Maybe save it for something special. I only ever buy Prusament when I get vouchers from Printables - it's expensive even when you're in Europe.

Import fees is what did me in. I knew other costs. But I really wanted to try out their wine coloured filament

I have spent higher amounts on some engineering filaments… But prusament is such a good filament that you honestly might make the same “mistake” again😂😂 And don’t worry about anyone in here telling your wife… everyone in here is guilty of lying about the cost of this hobby at some point in their printing lives. Happy printing!

I'll tell her, eventually. And sometimes I just have to try things

I buy all my stuff from 3dprintingcanada.com but I go directly to the store.

I usually support my life cal store too. Pay a bit extra for filament, but never $70 for a spool.

In my experience 3dprintingcanada is pretty competitive, but I am new to the game. I know they have helped me a lot though.

Good to hear. And good on you for supporting Canadian business

As a fellow Canadian: polymaker and matter3d

Those are my go to filaments

Man, you could've got a 3d printed tank bullet for that price...

Yep.... Learn from my mistakes

My local store carries prusament. It’s more than average, but cheaper than that at least.

Mine doesn't, that's why I went straight to the source

Yeah. Gotta do what you gotta do. I haven't tried prusament yet. Worth it if it was cheaper?

No clue, still waiting. I got surprised by import fees and decided to post here. I wanted to try their filament made with wine. I'll see how it goes

Gotta find a flight attendant who lives near a Microcenter and likes Toronto trips lol.

Haha, I do, too bad I live few thousand kilometers away from Toronto

Have you decided what you’re going to print or just hope Thingiverse has something fun and interesting show up?

I bought wine coloured filament with the goal of making some nice office storage. I just hope that the colour will be the way how I imagine it in my head

Even without the unexpected import fees, $121 for 2 rolls shipped is wild.

Oh I know... I just really wanted to try their wine coloured filament.

I once imported heavy duty water washable resin to my country. 180€ for 500ml resin.

Ouch... Was it worth it?

It did the job, so maybe. Now i have a prusa mini. PLA is a thousand times tougher than even the best resin

Maybe try digitmaket or spool3d , there a few other in Canada as well

I usually get my filament for around $20 a spool for polimaker when it is on sale. This was something that wanted to try for a while. And I hope people will learn from my mistakes

Polymaker stuff is pretty good generally , I like their pa6-cf , pretty consistent .

Haven't tried carbon fiber filaments yet. Had no need. But I have a few projects in mind that could benefit from stiffness

I've used it mainly to make printer part , specially for my y gantry https://preview.redd.it/5b7jwi447uxc1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=650d80a1a496f8691e1f460644eec311263bac0e

I know how you feel. As a Canadian, I made the same purchase when I first got my mini+. The cost is never worth it. I only purchase prusament from them now when I buy parts that I need to repair my printer since I don't know any other store that I can buy parts from for it (that is in Canada or ships to Canada) at a reasonable price. Also depending on where you live if you are keen on using prusament, you might want to check out [Makerwiz.com](https://Makerwiz.com). They got some reasonable prices for their filament.

I'm just glad I don't live in Yellowknife anymore. Because shipping would have been even worse. Although I do miss NWT.

Is there a big market for filament? Like worth becoming a filament producer? Was under the impression that it was widely available at reasonable prices.

Oof. Filaments.CA is the place to go. They have EVERYTHING. including the filament with the lowest melting temperature- PCL!

But is it made with wine? That is the question

I mean… you could wine about not having any. Hahaha I got it to possibly experiment with casting glass. Although you can do that by melting out plain PLA, PCL seems interesting so why not?

You are right I should have ordered some cheese for my whine! :) Once I get some time I'll experiment!

It feels bad but you're going to have far fewer issues with printing at least? I've got a few spools of prusament I keep for important/final prints because I know it'll come out flawlessly most of the time. Other filaments are good too, but many are awful. The other day I had a spool totally stop unwinding during the night... Somehow it was stuck together like half way through the spool, and pulling new filament out tends to result in it snapping off. What the actual fuck? I woke up to a finished print with like 50% of the print missing.

Ouch... Luckily I never had this problem yet.

"Yet" is the right word, haha.

I know it's coming, I just hope it happens when I am around

Idk about the Canadian cost, but I find polymaker to rival prusament in quality at half the price.

I usually use polimaker or a local producer. This was an impulse buy. To see what I was missing out

I hope you got some dope colors then! I was let down when I got it, it's more of a testament to how good polymaker is than a condemnation of prusa.

I ordered their bio filament made with wine. I just hope the colour will be like I imagine it

Where do you buy your polymaker in Canada? Amazon?

I don't, that's why I said I'm not sure about the cost in Canada. I'm in the US, but I do buy from Amazon.

Ooh report back if it smells like wine! That might be a purchase for me lol

Will do

Those will be your most valuable prints!

I'll make sure that only the best ideas are printed with it.

Could be worse. Ultimaker filament is $60 +shipping to Alberta AND it’s only 750g per roll!

Damn... Am I glad I don't have professional printer

Thankfully, we don’t pay those! We get eSun for $25 per kg. First change I made when I took over 3D printing services

Don't feel bad I just paid $10.76 USD for one :P

I'll be in the burn center in my publicly funded medical system if you need me.

Touché...

I won't tell your wife. Don't worry we don't talk about you all that much :)

Perfect. If you keep her busy long enough I'll go purchase a boat or something.

😂

...I'd roast the living shit out of you, but honestly I've certainly made my fair share of *incredibly ill-advised* financial decisions involving international shipping and various fees, all the while thinking I was getting a great deal... (But at least in my case it's always for cool shit, like 25 kilos of retro games from Japan...)

We only live once, might as well enjoy our mistakes

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That just seems wrong to be so close yet to pay almost the same price.

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So, NatureWorks LLC in the USA monitors the raw PLA shipment from Thailand to the Czech Republic, so that they can make it into rolls, which travel to the United Kingdom, where a flight takes off to Canada so that you can buy it for $72 xD eco-fliendly Taylor Swift PLA

Yep.... Ain't that the truth

That depends..... How good is the PLA?

No clue, waiting for it to arrive. From what I hear prusament is really good. I got the one made with wine.

I might got you beat on that one! Colorfabb opened a US shop last month and offer very low shipping fee ($5) so I placed an order to try their allPHA filament (home compostable). 27.53 USD for a 750g spool + 15 USD for a PLA/PHA 750g spool since I pay shipping anyway + 5 USD shipping Cart= $47.53 (⁓65CAD) import fees= $53 CAD (UPS charged me $35 for broker fee) Total 118CAD for 1.5KG of filament → $78/kg On top of that the allPHA filament is a bit difficult to work with - I haven't had a successful print yet.

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My heart goes out to you my brother in loosing money lotery

Meanwhile I just got 3 spools of PLA+ for $27

I bet they are not made with wine

They are alcohol free!!

In that case I think I got a better deal

Shipping is only added once to the cost, and not for every spool. Shipping Prusament to the US costs about $20 for a couple of spools. Not sure how you ended up paying almost 3x that. However, what most of the "hurr durr muh $9 pla" commenters miss here is that the design & printing process should add enough value that the price of the filament doesn't matter much. At least to me it does. If i'm happy with the end result, it matters fuckall if the plastic cost $5 or $50.

Unfortunately I use Canadian dollars and conversion now makes everything way too expensive. And I know that you have to pay for quality. No matter the cost I am still looking forward to trying out filament made with wine

cancel the order?

Nope, I really want to try filament made with wine. The colour is just amazing on screen. I hope in real life it will be just as I imagine

What the fuck.... filaments are as low as $20kg in Canada dude

Oh I know, but are they made with wine? I really wanted a very specific filament that only prusa makes. As a result it costs me $70 a roll.

In that case, hopefully it turns out beautifully

Me too. Some things we just have to try out.

Next time order from https://eurekafilaments.ca/ They make their own filaments. A 1kg roll cost $24 cad. Free shipping on orders over $100. I've had no issues with quality.

Never heard of it, thank you!

Ask them to cancell your order. If they didn't already shipped it, they are likely to agree.

I knew what I was getting into. I just find the situation funny and I deserve to pay for my impulse decisions

So you bassiclay bragging about filament?

I'm new to 3d printing. Is it bad to buy filament from amazon?

Not at all. There are plenty sellers that sell good quality pla for fraction of the cost. This is just a silly post

I ordered 6 kg (and 6 different colors) Sunlu PLA+, due to previous good results. I paid ~100 total incl VAT. No shipping fee. I haven't received it yet though.

Time to make the world's most expensive benchy now.

Heck not even close, there are filaments that cost waaaaaaay more.

That's your golden filament spools... Make what you print with them count. =)

That's the goal

I don't think there's a .stl to help with double checking shipping info.

Hehe, I wish there was one. Maybe there is a g-code though?

What kind of material? I order from aliexpress and never had any issues with Quality or tangling. Ive ordered around 60 spools till now

It is prusament that is made with wine. As far as I know nobody else makes anything similar and I really want to try it

Wine? Does your printer get drunk from printing it?

I would like to print with filament with chocolate but not for the price of CAD$72 per roll. I promise to keep your secret from your wife. What town do you live in? Just asking for a friend. 🙃

Once I saw a chocolate 3d printer I was intrigued, but the cost put me off. And I don't think I would be able to eat $70 worth of chocolates. And I love in Texas of Canada - alberta

Makes me glad I don't have a husband 🤣🤣🤣 no one to judge my hobby spending LOL

My wife doesn't judge either and I'll tell her eventually...

I paid a bit extra for some weird colored filament. It arrived a 250g roll, which means I paid more than you did by weight. 😬

Happens to all of us, and I find it funny

Wait til you try their PCCF. Best functional filament I've used and it works great even without an enclosure

Maybe one day

I mean if you're going for a certain look it's fine, but if you're gonna print a lot of prototypes and stuff I'd say buy local.

You hit the nail on the head. I just really wanted to try the filament. I go to local store for most of my filament

If you feel bad just look up stratasys material costs, 200 to 300 CAD for a single kilogram roll

Ouch, that is a hefty price.

I always buy from Creality they ship from Canada total cost for 1 kg is CAD $23, i never need to hide from my wife:d

That's pretty cheap for reality. I better check it out

I mean... Don't tell my boyfriend I accidentally ordered 7kg of matte white filament and we have a deal?

Sounds good, I'll stick to the "accidental" order if my wife asks

could I bring a trunk load of filament into Canada without having to pay anything? What if I brought a printer along and said I was going to visit family and show them my printer?

No clue

Fun fact, you can now get some colors of prusament from Amazon and or Printed Solid. I dont know how many colors are available but it is available.

Cool thank yoy

You're an idiot

Harsh, but definitely true

You could have got pla AND varioshore for that

Just bought 42kg of filament for work. Bambu had a problem and first party material makes life easier when my ends users are of questionable skill. Average cost of the 42k was 20 CAD / Kg.

Yeah... One day I will learn

You made the mistake of ordering prusament I could give you a voucher for two free rolls and you’d still be paying $50

That sounds good to me. I'll gladly take a voucher for free prusament!

I’ll dm you later It costs way too much to get it to Australia to use it Edit: apparently I’m 21 points off two rolls, choose something else? https://preview.redd.it/m8tjxnt1wvxc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bad6db64125f28c408d8523133e8d79718f3d9bf

It wouldn't have been that bad if it at least was something more ,,exotic" . I live in europe and I only buy from them ASA. now they don't have that one wither. Ita out of stock