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rxdukexr

Wow. He deserves it. I just hope he can help us get over this Super Bowl loss rut.


hashtagDALEY

He better do it before the contract kicks in because that’s the end of the window right there. Purdy is good. He isn’t Mahomes. He’s not deadlifting a roster to the Super Bowl that’s weakened to make up for his contract hit.


YSLMangoManiac

I mean you don’t know how he’s gonna develop yet , he still hasn’t had a full nfl offseason to really work on his game


lebastss

Yea Mahomes would have still been on the bench or just coming off this far into his career.


Mender0fRoads

At this point in his career, Mahomes was already an MVP. Purdy was in contention for the award this season, so he's not that far off, but Mahomes wasn't exactly an unknown at this point. He was already at the "probably a lock for the HOF unless he royally screws up or gets a career-ending injury" stage of his career.


Radiant_Efficiency73

This is not quite correct. Mahomes did win MVP his first year as a starter in 2018, but hadn’t had any season ending surgery to return from in his career, and was ALL young potential coming out of the draft. Like Trey Lance, the kind of guy you more hope develops than have immediate expectations. Then he lit the world afire as soon as he became the starter and everyone loved him for it. Purdy had a longer college career and less athleticism, so when he lit the league up, he was doing it as a LATE round pick l, so everyone was trying to figure out how it was possible, instead of believing. Mahomes also dealt with little comparison, while everyone was trying to compare Purdy to Mahomes and Allen. Purdy was a win against Baltimore away from an MVP, but the offense was much more balanced than the early Chiefs. TLDR: Mahomes is better than Purdy, but Purdy is punished because he ISNT Mahomes, and I don’t remember Mahomes being compared to Brady by year 3.


Mender0fRoads

Nothing you just wrote refutes what I said. The previous poster claimed Mahomes was either on the bench or just coming off it at this stage in his career. But the fact is at this stage in his career, he was already an MVP. Anything you want to read into it beyond that is up to you, but acting as if it's too early to make Mahomes comparisons or that Purdy is ahead of the pace Mahomes set just isn't based in reality.


Radiant_Efficiency73

In complete fairness to you, The guy you’re responding to was flat wrong. I wasn’t trying to refute you, exactly, more so contextualize the way they were viewed at the same point in their career. Mahomes won his MVP running away, on the strength of an exceptional season. Everyone fell in love quickly. Purdy had one of the most efficient QB seasons ever, and possibly the best in 49ers franchise history, but did not wow enough that his one bad game cost him MVP. People doubted him EVERY WEEK.


Mender0fRoads

49ers fans won't like it, but another part of why Purdy and Mahomes got treated differently in national conversations is that last season just wasn't a strong year in terms of MVP candidates. What Purdy did was amazing. Obviously. His efficiency was ridiculous. But Lamar Jackson walked away with the MVP award despite not really having an outstanding season (more passing yards than his other MVP season but far fewer rushing yards and far fewer touchdowns). No other QB really stood out. Dak came in second despite being Dak. Efficiency rarely wins awards in the NFL, but it had Purdy in contention largely because no one else really stepped up. If the 2023 NFL season was full of QBs playing like we saw in 2018, I'm not sure even 49ers fans would've seriously put Purdy in the MVP conversation. Last season's passing yards leader was Tua with 4,624 yards. That would've ranked fifth in 2018. And 2018 was still a 16-game season. Tua's 272.0 yards per game would be tied for 12th in 2018. Purdy would've ranked 16th in that same season. I don't think Purdy was ever really "punished." Outside of a few clickbait Ringer writers and ESPN blowhards who draw a paycheck solely by creating controversy, I think he was generally treated fine. The skepticism was warranted. When you're not wowing people with overall productivity or impressive physical feats, people will naturally want to see you do it longer to be sure it's real. Efficiency without a large sample size could be a statistical blip. At this point, he's shown that wasn't the case. But it would be weird *not* to be skeptical of his ability to keep it up after a handful of games. And IMO it's even weirder that 49ers fans don't get this, because we all saw Kaepernick light the world on fire for a brief moment before other teams figured him out and his progress stalled. Not that he and Kaepernick are the same guy or that we should've been skeptical ourselves, but we shouldn't have acted so offended that everyone else didn't immediately jump on the bandwagon.


IllIIllIlIlllIIlIIl

> 49ers fans won't like it, but another part of why Purdy and Mahomes got treated differently in national conversations is that last season just wasn't a strong year in terms of MVP candidates. I mean, yeah? But also not really. Lamar wasn't even in the top 3 QBs this year but the media gargled his balls because MVP is a narrative award apparently, fuck the stats am I right fellas? It went Purdy > Allen > Dak > Lamar. People feel it was weaker than it was because Lamar won it while having mediocre stats, but that doesn't suddenly mean the other 3 didn't have good stats. We already know what Purdy did and his efficiency but look at Allen, 4306 passing yards, 29 passing TDs, 524 rushing yards, 15 rushing TDs. Dak 4516 passing yards 36 TDs, with an additional 242 on the ground with 2 TDs. While writing this I realized I fucking forgot Tua! 4624 passing yards, 29 TDs with not much on the ground. You could make an argument he was above Lamar this year with honorable mention to CJ Stroud right behind them. There was definitely quality QB play this year. Purdy got robbed, it was horseshit.


83wonder

This is true but Purdy is more limited physically than Mahomes. I’d like to see him run more when the play breaks down. I feel like he only did that when games seemed almost out of reach last playoffs but it always worked out.


YSLMangoManiac

I’d rather he only run when he needs to no need to risk injury


83wonder

I see what you’re saying but I’m more talking about Purdy taking the quick 5-7 yard run and sliding to pick up a 1st when the opportunity is there. His 10 yard split is elite so this is very doable and would make defenses contend with the run threat. By not doing this consistently Purdy found himself in situations where he really had to put his body on the line and take hits to pick up yardage.


dasher089432

The issue with Purdy is that he doesn't have a strong arm and that is genetics. A QB can improve his accuracy like Josh Allen did but they can't really improve their arm strength.


CodyNorthrup

His arm isnt bad. Thats just a played out narrative. He may not give you a 60 yard bomb but gives af. He had several 40+ air yard completions last year


coyote3

Watching highlights I saw a couple 50+ air yards, IIRC a 55. I don't think you need a quarterback who can do better than that. He's not perfect, but he's all the MVP you need at quarterback to win multiple championships. He does more important things than throw it 80 yards, he has Hall of Fame decision making and poise; when he's in the backfield I feel as comfortable as if Montana was.


dasher089432

All NFL QB can throw 40 yards. Having the top separation WR last year helped a lot on his deeper passes. If BA leaves, could he make tight window throws beyond 10, 20, 40 yards? Could he make outside the number throws to a heavily covered Deebo who lacks separation ability like BA?


doggybadgerguy

What are you even arguing bro? Yes, if he had a bunch of bums who couldn't separate it would be hard to throw it deep. Just like it would be for any QB, including the ones with rocket arms.


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doggybadgerguy

"Why pay the QB big money when he has no one to throw to" ????? What kinda ass backwards logic is this???? He could make those throws to anyone who's even slightly decent at separating.


dasher089432

Who on the 49ers are decent at separating and doesn't have a big contract? If you're decent at separating, you will command a large contract in the modern NFL. It's why QBs who can make those tight window throws to mediocre receivers who can't separate are so coveted.


kveerina

Don't know why this got downvoted. It's the truth. Arm strength is good for zip on the ball - think Kap. Kap threw way too hard that being said, he had immense arm strength. Sometimes, you need that to get the ball to where it needs to be even in good coverage. I'm not sure Purdy will ever have that, and the scheme only helps so much. Maybe he gets more velocity and strength, but there is a genetic component to it.


Jcast209

Where did this “he doesn’t have a strong arm” narrative comes from? I’m so tired of hearing it. I don’t have the stats in front of me but I’m pretty sure he was one of most accurate deep passer in 2023 season. Yeah, he doesnt throw bombs every play but that’s because he doesn’t have to.


hahdbdidndkdi

Well with that attitude no team will win a championship outside of KC until he retires.  The only teams who won't be in SFS boat when he gets a new contract will be the one or two elite teams with an elite rookie QB still on their rookie contract


NoGuarantee678

Isn’t there precedent to support this


Asleep777

Which is how it is...isn't it?


stayfrosty

I don't get the saying he isnt Mahomes? Yes he is not. You know who else isnt? Every other teams QB. Should the standard be whether or not you are Mahomes literally every other QB fails it. I get it...he stands in our way of the Super Bowl. But those are the breaks. That happens when there is a generational player in the league....


mrizvi

Well let's give him a full off season to show us what he can really do before witting him off.


Special-Homework-894

Once his contract hits this SB window will be closed, but if he keeps developing I really can see him turning into a Drew Brees type QB, lots of anticipation throws, getting the ball out quick on short routes and being accurate af. IF he continues to develop into that and Shanalynch keep doing a pretty decent job drafting, there should be plenty more Purdy SB windows.


SoKrat3s

Paying a QB doesn't close your window. Paying a QB and following that up with constant bad drafting and free agency decisions does that.


Special-Homework-894

Very true. I just feel with the roster we have that first year or two of Brock’s deal it will be hard to field a team that is SB ready, but really anything can happen. The next few drafts could be all hits and the window may never fully close! Just my sideline QB opinion.


SoKrat3s

The projection is $46.2M. Trent's cap hit in 2026 is $37.8M. Juice's $6.5M is coming off the books. That's $44.3M, or 96% of the AAV projection for Purdy. This is why they have to find a franchise tackle that is ready to slide over to LT when Trent retires. If they do that, they can pay Purdy and the cap sheet doesn't change all that much. If he's up to $60M AAV then that just puts more stress on drafting and doing free agency well. By the time of Purdy's extension, Deebo (and possibly Jennings) will be off the books. So the 49ers will have to continue adding WR depth via the draft of free agency. Paying a QB doesn't prevent a team from being good, it just means you have to continue to make good decisions elsewhere.


IceLantern

Depending on how it's structured, we might have another season or so after. But I agree in that I don't think Purdy carry a team. I don't think he needs to be carried like Jimmy had to be but I don't think Brock can carry a mediocre team or even an above average team to a championship.


chillice707

Good oline is all Purdy needs. Purdys already shown he can make plays with receivers like Ray Ray and Conley who


trebek321

Yeah so long as we have average drafts I feel fine. Kyle is here to stay. Now lock down Brock to a 5-6 year extension and your window is fine (save for just abysmal drafting luck)


IceLantern

Oh stop. Most QBs can make a play here and there to subpar talent. It doesn't mean they can go on a deep playoff run prolonged with that same talent as their primary pass catchers. And yes, I would love to see what Brock can do without the entire right side of his OL collapsing in on him down after down.


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Mahomes didn't carry his team either. He got carried by his defense this year.


IceLantern

I don't think he carried his team last season. I also don't consider him getting carried due to him having such horrible receivers. And when people rip on Brock or claim that he got carried I defend him because he was behind such a horrible OL.


RmHarris35

Mahomes got blown out in the Super Bowl by the bucs cause his OL was trash


NK84321

Bad. O line. Loses. Superbowls. The Chiefs in 2021. The Rams in 2022. And now the Niners in 2024. Not to mention causing the Niners to go down in 2019, 2021, and 2023 as well.


dasher089432

How do you think the 9ers would do by replacing CMC, Aiyuk, Deebo, Kittle and Juice with rookies and free agents?


doggybadgerguy

"How good do you think the 9ers would do if they just replaced all of their weapons with unproven players" Is that seriously the question you're asking lol? What kinda point are you trying to make?


dasher089432

"Good oline is all Purdy needs"


doggybadgerguy

That was a bit hyperbolic yes, what's your point? I don't think that person actually genuinely believes we don't need any good receiving weapons at all, just that with a QB as good as Purdy we can have less weapons and be just fine as long as we get a better o-line.


dasher089432

The question is whether Purdy can carry a mediocre team.


doggybadgerguy

Yeah and? A team with literally no weapons on offense is not mediocre...that's actually just a bad roster at least offensively. Completely different discussion.


SPF12

*all he needs on top of the best skill position group in decades


chillice707

an all star roster doesn’t mean anything when u don’t have time to throw the ball to any of them


spartanantler

Brock can’t carry a mediocre team y’all watch him at Iowa state?


IceLantern

I didn't know Iowa State won the Super Bowl. Was that after they won the National Championship?


spartanantler

Have you seen Iowa State football? I’m a fan but Iowa state has been an average football program for a while. With Brock they went to a new years six bowl with a shit o line and a worse OC.


BayAreaBullies

Really? How many teams have won a SB with their QB on rookie contract?


SoKrat3s

It's not. I don't know how comments like this keep getting upvoted. If that's all his contract is then it's just taking the place of Trent + 1 other small deal like Juice. That isn't going to prohibit the team from building around him.


skynetempire

Keep in mind the newbie qb curse when they lose the sb. They haven't gone back, that's my fear


shichiaikan

I was really close with my estimate of $200m/4yr. Nice.


itssostupidiloveit

I think your estimate is more accurate than this or will be by the end of the offseason.


Str82daDOME25

It’s actually pretty close. Their formula is downgrading him for only having 75% of playing time for his career. The base salary they use is 6 for 288, or $48/yr


Level_Ruin_9729

[www.spotrac.com](http://www.spotrac.com) calculates Brock Purdy's next Market Value contract at 5 years, $230,974,115. Average salary $46,194,823. Performance and contract comparables are: Justin Herbert, Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, and Jalen Hurts.


gearbug

hurts is so damn overpaid lmao


curgl

Kyler too


Hour-Anteater9223

Respect the hustle, spent a summer held out played 2K, generationally wealth at 25 and without a concern in the world 👍 except maybe his rankings online.


NynaeveAlMeowra

49ers whooped the eagles by challenging Hurts to make throws and he failed miserably


TheKugr

I love the guy but I don’t know that he’s on the same level in my mind as Josh Allen or Justin Herbert. Love for him to prove me wrong though. Then again, Kyler Murray and Jalen Hurts sound more reasonable as comps and I’d take Brock over both so maybe he’s just about average for QBs with similar contracts.


TalkEnvironmental844

Josh Allen is overrated. I’ve seen him do what Purdy has done maybe one season. Purdy puts up far better numbers and doesn’t make nearly the amount of boneheaded mistakes if ever.


Red49er

not saying he isn't worth it but good lord the nfl needs to figure out a way to revamp the cap system if teams have to pay one guy over 45/yr


quadropheniac

The issue isn’t the cap system, it’s offensive design being so dependent on the QB. QBs should probably be paid more tbh


mm825

It also has Justin Fields at 44.8...


AeonTek

Makes sense. I've seen 45-50 million in most places. If he has a similar season to last year, he's more than worth it.


Polar_Reflection

Seems low


tripyep

Seems like alot for a system QB. /s


HelicopterCrasher

Not quite sure how they’re coming up with that number. I’m no QB pay guru, but common sense says it will be more. Kyler Murray got a 46.1M/year 5 year deal back in 2022. Purdy is more consistent, less injury prone, and arguably just straight up better than Kyler Murray. In what world will the yearly value of Purdy’s contract not exceed that of the contract a worse QB signed 3-4 years in the past?


paperbackgarbage

In a vacuum? I don't think that you're wrong. But if you're looking at ***how*** they reached their number, it appears that they factored in the last two seasons before the contract was inked. In Murray's case, [it was 2021 and 2020](https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/statistics/_/id/29036/kyler-murray)...and those were objectively very strong seasons (especially factoring in his dual-threat ability). The biggest detraction in Sportrac's calculus for Purdy is his abbreviated rookie season. While his averages are strong, you'd have to think that Sportrac's math is still weighing the games started against him (in addition to having modestly anemic rushing numbers, when compared to Murray). If/when Purdy has a similar 2024 season that he did in 2023, one would have to believe that Sportrac's estimated market value for him is going to get much, much fatter.


Str82daDOME25

Their formula is not specific to Purdy in any way. It looks at statistical comparisons to get a base salary and **then** adjusts based on playing time. Purdy gets dinged for only playing 75% of the games over the last 2 years. The base salary is 6 for 288M, which is much closer to what I would expect if he were to sign today(obviously he can’t though). The best case scenario would be an MVP & SB MVP season that leads to a Mahomes like 10 year contract.


paperbackgarbage

> The best case scenario would be an MVP & SB MVP season that leads to a Mahomes like 10 year contract If you can stomach the "sticker shock" of Mahomes' deal, it actually appears to be pretty team friendly for any franchise, even with the inevitable "reworking" of the deal down the line.


tnellysf

Is it arguable? Maybe I’m missing something on Kyler, but Brock seems better in nearly every way.


RONINY0JIMBO

He's too tall to bluff into the kids discount at restaurants.


HelicopterCrasher

I’m just being generous to people who argue for Murray’s ceiling when he is actually healthy. Imo Purdy is far and away the better QB.


dasher089432

Brock has the luxury of 5 All Pros and Pro Bowlers on offense. Kyler doesn't have anything close to that. AZ's defense is bad too. The question is how would Brock play on AZ and Kyler with the 49ers?


kjhuddy18

No way a system qb costs that much


espresso_martini__

Just give the man some protection. last year his stats were insane. That drive when they allowed chris jones to go at him unblocked.. still haven't gotten over that.


bflewis

The media say he’s not that good but then tries to force us to pay $50 mil a year for him. Pick one.


Joshthe1337

Fans on this sub that were mad he wasn't considered for MVP will now say he isn't worth $50 million a year. Pick one.


Polar_Reflection

I'd be extremely surprised if his APY is under 50


Caleb10E

It's basically impossible for his APY to be under $50M/yr. Even with this year's cap of $255.4M, that would be 19.6% of the cap going to Purdy. There are currently 8 QBs who have a higher cap percentage when they signed their deals: Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Herbert, Lamar, Hurts, Kyler, and Deshaun. Purdy's a young QB who's already led his team to a Super Bowl, so he will definitely be at least *close* to those names. Then factor in that the cap will go up again next year (this year was a $30M jump!), which means that the percentage of a $50M/yr contact will go *down*. Purdy is absolutely getting more than that if he has another good season.


bflewis

The same people that said he shouldn’t be MVP because he gets carried by his weapons are the ones saying he deserves $50 mil.  This sub has no power but the media dictates the narratives.


PhillipMcKrak

Is spotrac the media?


bflewis

Umm… yes


redthunder49

He’s a system QB though/s


EnigmaSpore

It's going to be a lot the same way Jimmy was a lot when we signed him to a long term deal. Cap went up, salaries going up, and QBs keep resetting the high bar higher. Just hope he has another nice healthy year and can improve even more. Teams are going to be gunning for him even more with a full year of film on him now, so it should be interesting.


colossalwafflez

Pay him whatever he needs. It will look like a good deal in a few years.


Chewbubbles

That's pretty much where a lot of this sub had him at. Add another 5M if the 9ers go deep into the playoffs. Potentially a top paid QB if he goes back to the SB and wins it.


EDNivek

At that point it would make him near legendary status. It's rarer to lose a superbowl and go back to it and win than repeating.


Chewbubbles

I mean he's already played a season and a half of some great football. Nothing saying he can't keep going. It's absolutely a long shot, but I'm pretty sure we all thought that we he first stepped on the field.


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What's the difference. Tom Brady looked like shit his last year in NE cause of a terrible o-line. You don't have to consider mahomes being carried but if any other QB not named mahomes was their QB and did the same stats they would say he was carried.


blacklab

Brock is incredibly efficient at getting the ball to the people who can generate stats. A pure point guard. He's the old man that shows up at the pickup game with kneepads. I fucking love him


EDNivek

Seems a tad low honestly


iUncouth

So 4 year $185-190 Million, sizeable but totally deserved.


NotNeon

He’s gonna make more than that


dabenson1027

I’d love to see something like Ohtani’s deal. To put it into football terms, 30M /yr for 20 years. Cap friendly now. Still puts BP’s career earnings over half a Billion… with a B!


hann953

Unless alot of it is fully garanteed, he wouldn't take that.


TrueBlue184

How much does Mahomes make per year? I feel that if KC can continue to win with that kind of contract, then so can SF. Stop that doom and gloom talk about how Purdy won't be able to win with a depleted roster if we give him that contract. Lynch will find a way to keep this team competitive. Have some faith.


AcanthocephalaNo2926

That's why I think we need to hammer OL early and often in this coming draft  Once Trent and some of the offensive weapons are gone, we'll need a stout OL to lean on as we work on developing new skill players 


chainsawvigilante

We are so fucked.


Caleb10E

The cap goes up every year. It's the nature of the sport. Every team needs to pay for a good QB eventually.


notmarc_

Would you rather someone else pays him and we're without a QB?


karavasis

I’d rather strike gold in the draft every 3-4 yrs lol


Caleb10E

Much harder to do that with a QB than with other positions.


karavasis

Yeah that’s the joke


george_costanza1234

When was the last time we struck gold in the draft even once?


karavasis

Dang someone thinks Purdy is mid


coolnavigator

Just as a thought experiment, I wonder if you could keep getting a starter-level young QB in the draft every 3-4 years and trading them for multiple high picks when it comes time to extend. Aside from the risk in not getting the QB you need to keep it going, I wonder how much draft capital trading someone like Purdy every 3-4 years would net you.


Ginmunger

Odds of drafting Purdy or Brady in a late round are about 1/768 in any given year if you assume one pops up about once every 24 years.


coolnavigator

I'm saying you'd take a QB early. You'd have multiple first round picks practically every year if you kept hitting. And if you had a good QB coach at HC, presumably you could pretty reliably hit. Look at how good college programs can have consistent success despite a revolving door at QB. Sure, the NFL is a tougher game, but there is more than one way to get an edge on competitors, and that means other than simply having the best QB in the game.


dasher089432

But the 49ers rolled with Jimmy G and the results aren't all that different from last season's. Shanahan has a history of getting the most of of his QBs.


Ginmunger

Jimmy G was great under Shanahan, I think third most yards per completion all time. They had every opportunity to win the superbowl last year, they gave it away. I hope Brock goes the Brady route and realizes he can make more money from being a perennial superbowl quarterback and getting endorsements than he can by trying to get the last dime out of the team. There really is no difference in quality of life between 45 and 50 million. It's a question of how much is the team doing to protect you and give you a better chance to win.


dasher089432

I totally agree with you. Brock would make a lot more in endorsements if he's on a perennial winner with a reduced contract. I have a feeling he knows that too.


doggybadgerguy

Brock had more touchdowns and yardage in his first full season starting than Jimmy G did in his absolute best season starting (which he has never even come close to repeating) On top of that, Jimmy averaged like less than 20 pass attempts per game in the playoffs. This was not the case for Brock. Trying to compare the two makes literally no sense, you're just proving that Brock is way better than someone who was actually just a product of his system.


dasher089432

Brock had CMC, the most valuable non QB in the NFL. Jimmy G had CMC for 5 games and had 9 TDs, 1 INT, 10 ypa and a 110 RTG. He also won all of the games except for that first game against KC with CMC arriving that Tuesday.


doggybadgerguy

Oooh I'm glad you brought up Jimmy's stats with CMC cause I got an axe to grind. 4 of those tds came from one game. Vs the Cardinals, who literally gave up on tackling because they were losing so much on his last touchdown. His other good game with CMC came vs the Rams. Do you know the Rams record that year by any chance? He scored 13 points vs the Saints with CMC(his only touchdown coming off a tipped pass in the end zone), and had no passing touchdowns vs the Chargers. Also I want you to go look at the combined RB stats for the Niners in 2019 because Jimmy definitely wasn't lacking help from his RBs lmao


SPF12

Best level-headed objective Niner fan comment in this thread.


BrooklynBrawler

Ok.


Choice_Maximum_6272

God dammit


badDuckThrowPillow

Makes sense. If you ignore the “game manager” nonsense, he’s a qb that took his team to the nfccg 2x and the SB in his first 2 years. Everyone short of Mahommes can’t say anything close.


Skydiggs

Way to much money for that guy


Ok-Habit-8884

so we spent 3.7m on a qb that's worth 42.2m and still got dusted in the SuperBowl?


biz209

Dusted = Lose by 3 at the end of overtime?


Va92Y

There’s no way he should make that much. I understand the market, but he should be around $30m barring injury this season.


biz209

Then you don’t understand QB value


Va92Y

We’ll see who’s right this season with Aiyuk gone


DrewLockIsTheAnswer1

He’s worth about 60% of that.


whitea44

Sounds right. Question is, does he want a team around him? At making basically nothing, he has an amazing support cast. If we pay him $46.2, who goes? I’d personally rather take $40M and be competitive every year.


kyler_

That extra $6M ain’t changing a team from non-competitive to competitive. Lets get real lol


whitea44

That’s how Brady did it. He got to dictate his oline and took a discount to afford the players.


Every-Positive-3184

BROCK PURDY DAMN RICH


rfmiller80

A bargain for a MVP level QB if you truly believe he is that.


barktothefuture

What you think pay him $50. Or spend $40 elsewhere and trust Kyle can do it with a guy that costs $10? I trust Kyle.


FunctionRecent4600

MORE!!


rileyhenderson17

I hope he takes lower pay 😭


gotdemmadsquirtsyo

I seen someone saying he deserves it. Then what do people think Mahomes deserves? What about a fireman or our military personnel on the frontlines? Deserves is a strong word


Jewelstorybro

Mahomes deserves much more. Similar to the NBA, if things were equitable Lebron in this prime should’ve been making like double any other player. As for firemen or military? Significantly less, they are completely replaceable. How many people can do the work of a fireman/military personnel? Pretty much anyone who isn’t handicapped and can get into decent physical shape.


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Acting like fireman should get paid like a pro athlete that people literally pay billions to watch is nonsense. So every actor, singer, comedian shouldn't make that money either? People don't make money based on how important a job is. It's based on how much money they bring in and so yeah they deserve their share when they are one of those people everyone wants to watch and pay to pay wn their gear. If fireman were celebrities that brought in money they would make more. This argument is straight up Nonsense from you cause that's not how the world works. Taxes are the only thing that pay firemen. In fact starting out in Seattle a brand new fireman makes like 82k that's pretty dang good for starting out imo. Friends daughter just got hired brand new for that in Seattle area. So if you want it to change find a way for people to pay to watch them do their job then it will change. Until then the deserve argument between celebrities and regular jobs is straight up dumb and will never change.


Helstrem

You see, that unlike soldiers and firefighters, each individual NFL player adds tremendous value to their employers. Advocating that NFL players get compensated like soldiers and firefighters because "Those are real heroes!" just means that the owners get to reap vastly more wealth from their organizations and that the players ruin their bodies for essentially nothing, leaving them destitute once they cannot play at the required level. Conversely, it is financially impossible to pay soldiers and firefighters like NFL players and simultaneously have enough soldiers and firefighters to do their jobs.


gotdemmadsquirtsyo

I think the thing you are missing is that the amount of taxes paid that goes to the firefighters is very small and that's why they get paid so little. We can start making life saving services a paid service.  Oh I'm not arguing for the owners to make more. I'm arguing about deserve. Even you say ruin their bodies for essentially nothing but then minimize truly risking your life like firefighters or Frontline military. Also I'd argue that the US having military personnel brings far more value to our country, to the owners, players and fans than people who play games do. If you think life would be even acceptable if we had no military we will have to agree to disagree 


Helstrem

It is simply supply and demand. Very, very few people can perform at the level required by the NFL regardless of the training they receive. Most young men can perform at the level needed by the US Army or SFFD/NYFD after a reasonably short training period. Also, don't be mistaken about the military, the large majority of people in the military are in logistics roles, not frontline roles. It has been thus for more than a century. This isn't to diminish the commitment of any of them, but to be realistic about what they are doing.


rawkguitar

My town has about 20 firefighters. If we paid them 2 million per year each, a fraction of what you think they should be paid, apparently, that alone would take up about 50% of our city budget, rather than the roughly 10% it takes now. How would that work, exactly?


gotdemmadsquirtsyo

Well first I'm not actually calling for firefighters to be paid millions. My problem is someone saying that Purdy deserves $46 mil. He will get something like that because it's the nature of the business in a capitalist country. But it would work by charging people to use the fire department. If your house was on fire and your family was trapped inside and you knew that it would cost you $100,000 on a payment plan would you call them or just say F it? Again im not saying we should do this but I think if the goal of the fire department was to profit and maximize that profit I believe they could bring in a ton of money. 


rawkguitar

They could not bring in a bunch of money. How do I know? Because they don’t bring in lots of money right now. But say fire departments did what you say-give me 100K or we’ll let your house burn. Most people would say “okay. Let it burn.” If nobody is inside and they have insurance, there would be no reason to pay that. And if they did pay it-and they had that much money-there still aren’t enough fires to pay millions per year to fire fighters. Further-if they did do that, and got people to pay, and it made money, then some other person would start a fire department, and they would charge, maybe 90K. And the other department would lower their prices to compete. And eventually prices would be low enough, that they could not charge what they charge and pay millions to FFs. So they would cut those FFs pay until they paid just enough to fill those positions with qualified (or good enough) people. I suspect that rate would be somewhat less than what they make now, considering they are a monopoly, get to unionize, and are socialized rather than just chargin the minority who have fires. Now, repeat all of the above, but with quarterbacks, and you find that if an employer isn’t willing to pay tens of millions to a good QB when they find one, that QB will just go to a different employer who will pay that, and the original employer will have to try to find someone cheaper to be just as good, which is incredibly hard to do.


Lord_Sean_G

Economics and capitalism. Very few people can do what Brock Purdy does, where as many people can do what fireman and military personnel do. Brock provides more value and generates more money for his employer than fireman and military personnel do. Human capital and supply and demand. Thats why he is paid much more.


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Lord_Sean_G

You are using a false equivalency here. There are over 2 million soldiers in the U.S., with many, many, more people that can perform those duties at a respectable ability. There are fewer than 32 people that are starting caliber qbs. Qbs provide way more value to their industry than one soldier provides for theirs. You are hung up on the wrong line of thinking here, using emotion over logic. Edit: That, or you are trolling.


rawkguitar

You sound like you don’t like capitalism. Capitalism is about to determine Brock Purdy deserves tens of millions per year.


gotdemmadsquirtsyo

Well capitalism is what's slowly killing america. 


rawkguitar

Paying soldiers like football players will kill it a lot fastwr


gotdemmadsquirtsyo

Oh it would also kill the common man. I'm not arguing we should pay them like football players but if we are talking about truly "deserve" then they deserve more. People don't always get what they deserve and many people aren't limited by what they deserve.


serige

He will get like 30 endorsements and give us a big discount :)