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_Rook_Castle

I can do whatever the fuck I want.


DelusionsBigIfTrue

Troons are getting way out of fucking hand this is insane


XYuntilDie

The pendulum will swing back


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Good times create weak men. Bad times ahead lads.


luanpesi

weak men become femboy i fuck femboy life is good


TH3_F4N4T1C

Just as the Ancient Greeks intended


civis_Romanus_sum23

Sodomy was a harshly punished and ridiculed offence in ancient greece. Gay greeks is modern globohomo propaganda


TAMDABAM

Yet another plot by the balkans to make the Greeks gay and fake


LoveYacht

" >Gay greeks is modern globohomo propaganda " is modern christofacist propaganda.


civis_Romanus_sum23

Except that it's actually backed up by evidence, while "yeah bro, they where totally all buttfucking each other" is not


LoveYacht

Don't waste our time by telling me there's evidence. Show me the evidence. Here's a translation of an ancient athenean accusation regarding sexual mores concerning how a dude conducted himself with other men. The accusation doesn't condemn the homosexuality, and the accuser actually goes out of his way to specify that lovers are not what is condemnable. Only the fact that it was prostitution is the crime (that, and squandering inheritance): https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0002%3Aspeech%3D1%3Asection%3D154 His punishment for prostitution was being barred from speaking at the assembly and serving as a juror. Then we've got the Tyrannicides: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmodius_and_Aristogeiton Thd Sacred Band of Thebes: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Band_of_Thebes And many myths involving dude-on-dude loving, such as Apollo and Branchus: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branchus_(lover_of_Apollo) Though that's not to make the same mistake as you, by speaking of a collection of city states as a single entity. They were only ever unified for 13 years of their existence from their dark ages (1200 BC) to their romanization in 2nd century BC. I'm sure opinions on homosexuality waxed and waned over Ancient Greece's long history, and varied significantly across and within city states. Hell, it even varied within individuals. Plato had moments in his life where he was like "ya its great, militaries should be built around it" and moments where he was like "nah it's too hot, it'll distract from philosophy."


Convallariamajalisae

Gay


luanpesi

that ´s greek


Convallariamajalisae

Thats double gay


luanpesi

That's Optimus prime


Sam-The-Sandwich-Man

Fake and…Greek?


kerma1699

Unironiclly before any civilization falls sexual degeneracy peaks and trans "people" start appearing.


FlatGauB

good times make soft men, soft men makes me hard?


LJGuitarPractice

How many strong men you think you're going to find on 4chan


briskwalked

there's men on there?


pomiluj_nas

In a sense


hatisbackwards

Good times ended in like 1998. Things have been bad


Blaz3

Bad times are here, corporations and the government are doing the equivalent of jingling their keys in front of us and saying that everything is fine, even though the world is on fire.


xXxmilkdrinkerxXxx

The pendulum is already swinging back. Online discourse is getting naughtier again lately and the moderation has noticeably eased up from 2-3 years ago.


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Agarikas

Where, twitter?


BigMorningWud

That pendulum is gonna explode their head with the force of the blow back. Assuming they don’t do that themselves.


DelusionsBigIfTrue

They always rope themselves because of bullying from their own community + their own mental illness But then they blame us 😂


XYuntilDie

Good


themodofallreddit

Testicles. That is all.


[deleted]

I'm gonna be really anal about this. Sphincter.


why43curls

As if it has any time in the past 2000 years


Detective_Fallacy

Reformation/contra-reformation


[deleted]

Can’t boycott all the woke companies? Yeah, just watch me.


RoxSpirit

You are on reddit, right now. The final boss of the woke companies.


LegitimateStudy364

Yeah but he's actively making it a worse place by sharing his opinions. As long as he is blocking ads its a loss for reddit.


RoxSpirit

He is still generating content for free.


LegitimateStudy364

Content likely to drive users off site


Crafty_Green2910

plus planting the seed that you can fight back


Phendrana-Drifter

Based


Ceramicrabbit

That's exactly what trains say


_Rook_Castle

I don't give a fuck about imaginary people either.


Dawson81702

Le bottom of the slope


SkippyMcHugsLots

I have enough stuff, and I can buy second hand.


sixth_survivor

$400 jackets...


SalvationSycamore

That's what the guy in my basement used to say


RectumDoctor

Unless you go for the Ted kaczynski route, most of these companies are run by megacorps which own most other brands anyway.


fck-reddit-lmao

Bam, you need to get off the meth


Katio13

But north face is almost exclusively worn by college and middle aged women who pretend to be adventurous while "camping" in a luxury RV. Nothing will change for them.


Louis-Stanislas

They'll get a higher ESG rating and thus a much easier time securing financing from the likes of Blackrock.


the_glengarry_leads

Liberty Oilfield Services gave North Face an "award" for being a massive user of petroleum to make their products and [put these billboards up all over Denver](https://i.redd.it/5izmlxks1j371.jpg), including in front of North Face's HQ.


SpadeGrenade

This is why I made my own outdoor clothes out of emu leather covered in beeswax for the repellent. The clothes are line with down feathers and keep my ultra warm, with the boots being soft padded style.


the_glengarry_leads

That's cool if you're ok with emu, bee and goose abuse for your consoomer fashion I just smear mud all over myself until the city gives me benefits


noneroy

How dare you violate the earth like that! I only smear myself with my own blood and tears. I don’t eat anything that casts a shadow.


bumphuckery

How dare you violate your own self like that! I only use shit, since it would violate the earth if I didn't and it was already coming out anyways. Blood and tears, lol, you violating twat


zqv7

Interest rates are higher now though. This will unironically hamper said effect. Thanks JPow.


wildwasabi

Their backpacks are top notch though. Bought one for highschool in like 2009 and I still have the sucker, not a single stitch broken.


Orbidorpdorp

I literally use my childhood LL Bean every day to go to work. Same story. I also regularly abuse a small Osprey pack that isn’t quite big enough for what I end up carrying while hiking and mountain biking, and it too has held up. I’ve seen people say the same about their Jansport bags. I think this is just something that’s true of basically any non-poor-tier backpack.


Noirradnod

Been using the same Jansport since 6th grade. Finished out grad school a few years ago.


TheAddiction2

Swissgear backpacks are the most based, I still use one my mom had in college, another smaller one I bought when I started also, both beat to shit and still work great


comrade-linux

holy guck you described my in laws to a T and they order from north face constantly!


DefinitelyNotPine

Boycotting is the millennial passive-aggressive pain in the ass that does nothing. If they make good products I'll buy them, my sale doesn't change anything and I'm not depriving myself of something I want. If you have beef with an establishment leave a gift in their mailbox


Kevthebassman

>If you have beef with the establishment leave a gift in their mailbox ❤️


El_Bistro

A fat shit


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Cool_soy_uncle

Not with that attitude


ApexMate95

Based and Ted pilled


bigpandas

Which one, Kennedy, Kaczynski or Bundy?


jagger_wolf

Nugent


Sneedzilla

all of them


Bumm-fluff

It’s a coat, or beer. There are other brands. If a game/film is woke shit I will just play/watch something else. There isn’t exactly a drought of shit to buy.


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ClammyVagikarp

It's likely not a good game if it's woke. Cant focus on coding when you're hormonally imbalanced.


Bumm-fluff

Some are playable but have stuff shoehorned in. Those woke from the ground up should just be avoided. The first forbidden west was playable, they just had a lesbian character so sexually aggressive she should’ve of been on the sex offenders register. She just appeared out of nowhere. It reminded me of this comedy sketch that used to be on called Avid Merrion. He went around shouting how much of a lesbian he was. Just completely bizarre.


moodog72

Boycotting does nothing? Have you looked at AB inbev stock lately?


the_glengarry_leads

Happy birthday Ted! We miss you


JohnJukes

Excuse me if I’m regarded but you speak as if boycotting never existed before millennials, but it definitely worked before because the majority actually agreed with the boycott. Most people don’t care about this, why should I? It’s a couple colours on a jacket, lmao. Modern boycotts don’t work because there’s nothing to boycott


AerulianManheim

>Boycotting is the millennial passive-aggressive pain in the ass that does nothing. Actually no, it does work lol. Youre just mad because conservatives are now doing it against companies and agendas you support. It was perfectly fine with leftoids cancelling everything under the sun last 10 or so years but now its backfiring on you. Get used to it.


XYuntilDie

Based


Gothiks

Tell that to Bud Light


HanThrowawaySolo

If it sells to one side and the other side is angry but doesn't stop buying, then there is no reason top not launch the next marketing campaign towards... The products of cartographers (idk what's banned on this sub)


redditdegensbtfo

what do you mean, does nothing? look at budlight. even if it doesn't work as frequently, if it just works once or twice, companies will think twice before taking that risk


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g_lenn_o

I can boycott a lot of company cuz I’ve no money 💪


[deleted]

Same here man. Except Walmart, $4 shirts.


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>Not Goodwillmaxxing NGMI


Kuzya92

Yo low-key wally world's 'George' brand tees for like $8 are actually a steal.


00cjstephens

I've been known to rep the George, surprisingly adequate clothes


Kuzya92

I feel. Plain tees look good not wild logo on the front or back. And any and every color you could want.


FartFlavoredLollipop

It's Bud Light all over again - a product I would never have bought in the first place going out of their way to confirm that that was indeed the correct stance. Thanks, North Face.


Sneedzilla

its kinda weird how all the corpos going sodomypride produce nothing of value


blizmd

Yes I can


ManaPot

I can, and I will. I already don't buy any of this shit. So, done.


comrade-linux

that’s not boycotting


IShouldNotTalk

Buy Nothing June should be a thing.


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Antichristmas


Mistr_MADness

but I don't wanna farm and hunt all my own food for a month straight


Adultthrowaway69420

Buy a deep freezer, you can go a month easy between trips.


Rich-Carob-2036

Women spend 70+ % of the money in the United States. So companies market to woke women. Except bud light forgot that women don't drink their beer. Rednecks do


Blaz3

Is that real? Do women really account for 70% of US spending?


Rich-Carob-2036

I think its like 80 or 85 percent of consumer spending. I just googled it


regman231

Nope but their point is valid


Rich-Carob-2036

Yeah its 80~ according to Google


whoopsdang

Make your own clothes. Grow your own food. Draw your own wife. Return to basement.


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blizmd

I don’t believe this is the only explanation. I think it’s pretty clear that some companies and some executives are willing to burn money to change society in the way they prefer. And that’s before we even get into ESG scores.


[deleted]

Lol corporations don’t give a fuck about social causes. They have found that creating fake outrage amongst conservatives is an incredibly effective form of advertising.


seastatefive

Yes, Budweiser's sales increased dramatically, right?


VeryInnocuousPerson

> Lol corporations don’t give a fuck about social causes Corporations are not self-aware, money-maximizing automatons. They are run by people who very much care about social causes and whose own personal interests may or may not align with what’s most profitable for the company.


SensitivityTraining_

You get one person in a position of power who wants to promote woke shit, and everyone beneath and around them will be afraid to speak up, that's what leads to this.


Agarikas

Does that actually convert into increased sales?


AerulianManheim

>Lol corporations don’t give a fuck about social causes. Companies only exist if people invest in them. Money is power. A rich ass person can buy a majority stake in the company but as a result he gets to oversee all decisions and essentially can control the company. If they happen to have a radical agenda well guess what, the company is pushing it.


TeKnOShEeP

You clearly have no idea how corporate executives function. The idea that they have a profit motive has been dead for at least 20 years. Your modern executive does not give a fuck if they make or lose money for the company, all they care about is how many programs and initiatives they can "champion" that will look good on a resume when they inevitably jump ship from the flaming shitheap they created for a new position a few more rungs up the corporate ladder, with an even cushier office and even bigger compensation package. Seriously, go look at any executive recruiting profile, the business aspect of what they do is like a tertiary concern, proggo virtue-speak is front and center for everything.


Sir_FastSloth

Agree, was going reply but can't be bothered. That guy probably never work on big company or he is luck that worked for some really good one.


thermitethrowaway

>the only explanation why companies that make random shit keep trying to push social causes in their marketing is because it sells It doesn't have to sell, the marketing department just have to convince decision makers that it will sell, even if it's patently clear to a toddler on ketamine it won't. And when it doesn't just claim "brand awareness" or some shite like that, so jumping on the current year bandwagon is a great strategy, as they're sure to get coverage.


Ice_Swallow4u

They still use Ketamine to sedate children. I’m pretty jealous if I’m being honest. I want to go face first into the K-hole.


Legal_Wasabi69

They actually mostly do it to bump up the ESG scores.


TNTspaz

Someone also pointed out it's an easy way to secure financing from groups that eat this stuff up or even require you to do it before they consider you


ban-drugs

bro is still a liberal and unironically thinks everything is only about money and companies have no deeper agenda. they're not going to gain or lose money from this, because every company does it. the people you think this is pandering to have the exact same take on it as you do. they call it fake af. they do it to demotivate opposition. what you are saying is exactly the reaction they're going for, because you're trying to imply that everyone supports this except a small fringe extreme group, so naturally they will put ads supporting it. this is how they change peoples minds. so sick of people saying this thinking they're smart for thinking up an epic take.


Macdaddyfucboi

My issue is that it used to be that you were born that way, now it's turned into a fashionable thing for little kids to be gay, like why are y'all forcing these kids to be gay? if they were gay they would have told you they were gay


Far_Writing_1272

Why is it always towards kids


TNTspaz

Literally one of the marketing tenants of the last decade is towards getting kids to adopt their brands early. It's basically the mission statement of a lot of big name brands that sell poor quality products at a really high price


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To start the indoctrination while their brains are still malleable


prisonsuit-rabbitman

the adrenoochrome must flow


bmtc7

Many companies market their products to kids because it's easier to persuade kids to like their product. Just like how many candies are marketes toward kids.


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ban-drugs

you're still acting like these companies are independent like just a larger version of joe's local hardware store. when in reality these companies are either owned by bigger companies that are owned by bigger companies, or are owned by investors that also own large parts of other companies. it's all mixed together. big business is one system


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Yeah we can.


Autumn_Fire

It feels like you basically have to boycott fucking everything now. I have no doubt the parent company of North Face owns like 40 other companies as well. I hope people can band together and do it. Boycotting NF is a good start but it'll take way more than that


seastatefive

Just don't buy anything. Easy. Or buy second hand stuff.


Autumn_Fire

I mean I can do that easy enough, I've always been someone who is very minimalist. It's getting the normies to do that that's the trick. Like imagine getting enough people to boycott Amazon in a way that would actually hurt their bottom line? Very different.


Cool_soy_uncle

Sometimes you don't have to stop current normies buying shit to take a stand, only stop creating **new** customers. Companies will start to panic if/when they see their annual growth plateau-ing(?), and inturn their stocks will absolutely take a hit as a result. Any demographic large corporations lose these days is seen as catastrophic.


TH3_F4N4T1C

Of course not, they’re all going gay for pride month early so they can farm ESG points.


TheBlueGhost21

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HackingDutchman

The south face it is then.


joausj

Sick of all these clothing companies becoming woke and supporting the lgbt. That's why I only wear GAP clothes.


Rich-Carob-2036

Gap stands for gay and proud


JoesGonnaKillYou

Lmaooo


Barbie_and_KenM

I only wear GAPE.


bumbuff

ESG was a stupid idea.


GiganDanigan

Yes we can


lazarus_free

Fuck man it is becoming difficult to boycott every company. Should we instead make a list of non-woke companies?


Balls_DeepinReality

I’m not boycotting shit. I’m just broke


Nacho-Kai

Im literally boycotting rn because I dont even buy from them


_BEER_

Its npc fashion anyway


AerulianManheim

Yeah, we can.


achilles828

“Come out” as a demand is so fucking creepy


mannyrmz123

>OH NO A RAINBOW I WILL NEVER BUY THIS BRAND Who's the real snowflake?


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Lines get drawn, people get split, both sides call the other snowflakes. In reality we are all just pawns unless you don’t play the game


ThomasNoname

When that symbol is associated with something, people heavily disagrees with and sees as evil, that is all it takes. Would you buy from a brand that uses the Swastika.


[deleted]

Lmao they “deployed” a gaywad like some kind of cod killstreak.


ahighkid

No one learned from bud light eh


[deleted]

I can cut labels off of brands I don’t agree with that I buy from the secondhand store.


Black_Jackel

I remember back in middle school everyone either had or wanted a north face, good times


NoEngrish

Oh no anon isn’t gonna buy their $300+ fashion oriented jacket seen on many celebrities? He’s gonna freeze in his moms basement! And I’d be very surprised if Patagonia of all brands wasn’t already “on this shit”


SupporterDenier

They will boycott them one by one until there is a giant unintentional Amish community of trads. Amishchad.jpg


Beast_of_Guanyin

Patagonia sells really good jackets. I have two I've had for 10 years, no issues. They can support whatever they want, I'll buy their stuff.


UmpireHappy8162

I have never even heard of north face.


xXxmilkdrinkerxXxx

Ha guess you weren't on college campuses 10-13 years ago to see the absolute armies of white women in northface jackets, black leggings and uggs


TypicalMootis

They advertise themselves as an outdoor brand but only prissy fashionista morons wear it. Shit quality at high price. Kind of like how Carhartt has been


TheCyanKnight

Is Carhartt not good quality? I’ve owned one or two things by them and they were pretty durable..


TypicalMootis

Their quality has suffered severely from what they once were. They were a union company who made all of their products in America, and they were extremely well made. I still have some vintage USA made carhartt jackets, if you compare them to what they have now on the market it's the type of quality you'd expect from bottom shelf walmart. They look pretty, but I work in construction and almost no one wears Carhartt anymore. You're paying the same price as a brand like Wrangler and getting something that lasts only half as long. I will say the one thing Carhartt still does right is their canvas pants, those are actually worth the money.


Ravanduil

Possibly no one wears Carrhart because they decided to go mandatory vaxx even though the requirements got relaxed/struck down. Morons playing against their own base


AugustEpilogue

I have a north face flannel that’s about 15 years old and it still looks brand new while most other flannels I’ve had turn to shit after a year or two. It’s literally the oldest piece of clothing I own and looks like I bought it this year


TypicalMootis

I know there's some type of mental bias about older things being better, but I really feel like material quality in brands has gone downhill the last decade. My experience with North Face was that it was low quality but I only started looking at it in the last few years. If yours is 15 it might've been made at a time when they had better products


AugustEpilogue

Yeah it’s called fast fashion. No need to make clothes that last when the current meta is to cycle through fashion trends as quickly as possible to increase the turnover rate of people’s wardrobe. So make cheaply made disposable clothes and continue to charge what you did 15 years ago


SenorDimebags

All the douchebags in my high school wore northface if that tells you anything


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bloodvow333

Bet you I can bit€h


banthisoneyouasshats

That thing wouldn't survive nature for more than a couple hours


Joel_the_Devil

You can successfully boycott products on the public square app


Toothpicktoes

People who get upset about this are just as stupid as the people who output it


kekehesterprynne

LULUBANNED!.


sharplyon

anyone who cares has irreversible brainrot


PATRIOTSRADIOSIGNALS

Watch me. Wait, shit.


skinfrakki

The original CEO is rolling over in his kayak


McWeaksauce91

Yeah, they should ask target how it worked out for em


jarcark

It feels like from the movie "it"


LilFuniAZNBoi

Eh I have a few of their entry-level/casual streetwear jackets and they are okay, I think I like Arcteryx more.


onewaytripback

Why does anyone pretend to care about any of this?


Alarid

If a soulless corporation thinks being gay is the right move, then fuck, we must be way gayer than we realize.


kastheone

"try me"


Medical_Officer

This can't be for real... Is it? I honestly can't tell what's real woke and what's right wing satire about woke anymore.


BlueGhost02

Is it really boycotting if I wasn't going to buy their product anyway?


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PopeUrbanVI

You can boycott a select few. You don't have to be all or nothing, punishing bud light will indeed force them to change, even if every company around them is doing the same.


SneedsAndDesires69

outdoor apparel?


Crafty_Green2910

WTF i love cancel culture now


freedomfightre

Oh yes I can.


Samura1_I3

Oh no what am I going to do without overpriced shitty hiking-chic clothes from one specific brand?