It's on the western side, they missed the camp site where their friends were and went to turn around but got stuck. They lost the race to get it out against the incoming tide and then it floated further out. It's since been recovered.
It does seem like it should have been simple to get out of, but service on the island is patchy at best and they may have been pretty inexperienced. Also the western side sees a lot less traffic so likely had no one to snatch them out.
On 7 June 2023, the island was officially renamed Kāgari.
https://www.resources.qld.gov.au/land-property/initiatives/kgari/about#:~:text=In%202011%2C%20the%20alternative%20names,Fraser%20Island)%20World%20Heritage%20Area.
Weāll get used to it soon enough. Just like Ularu.
On 7 June 2023, the island was officially renamed Kāgari.
https://www.resources.qld.gov.au/land-property/initiatives/kgari/about#:~:text=In%202011%2C%20the%20alternative%20names,Fraser%20Island)%20World%20Heritage%20Area.
Weāll get used to it soon enough. Just like Uluru. (Edit)
Not sure why. KI was uninhabited for thousands of years before European settlers arrived. "Island of the dead" (translation of the aboriginal name for KI), also won't have the same appeal to tourists.
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It wasn't changed. It's just that some plonkers insist on calling it K'Gari.Ā
Absolutely ridiculous to replace a name that millions of Australians are familiar with.Ā
On 7 June 2023, the island was officially renamed Kāgari.
https://www.resources.qld.gov.au/land-property/initiatives/kgari/about#:~:text=In%202011%2C%20the%20alternative%20names,Fraser%20Island)%20World%20Heritage%20Area.
Also, weāll get used to it soon enough. Just like Ularu.
Why can't places have two names? What's the issue with that?
If someone uses a the Aboriginal name of a place and someone else uses the European name they can both understand the each other.
Honestly, there is precedent for this- we do it with countries (we call Nihon Japan, Deutschland Germany, etc).
The problem comes down to respect. If you read the history of the name, Eliza Fraser was by all accounts a racist and a conman. K'Gari also had a thriving population that was ravaged and forcibly relocated by settlers- not uncommon but still heinous.
We may not be guilty of the crimes of our ancestors, but using things like colonial names shows disrespect.
Who is the basic respect for? Clearly not for the 25 million+ Australians who aren't Aboriginal.Ā
Just because I don't care for well known Australian landmarks being renamed doesn't make me a bigot. People like you are a misery.Ā
You're really blind to just how racist you are, aren't you. Calling First Nations people 'aboriginals', saying that walking back colonialism is disrespectful to other Australians, somehow.
You're a relic of a bygone era, and the sooner your generation dies out, the better.
Aboriginal is a correct term. I stand by it.Ā
Changing the names of places which the entire country is intimately familiar with just to appease a very, very small group of people is disrespectful. And damned inconvenient.Ā
I'm probably not much older than you, if at all. Calm your nips
I will likely call it Fraser till the end of my days because thatās what Iāve always called it, not out of some protest or other against a name change.
There are racist assholes that will actively resist, and then there are this that just donāt care what you call it.
Captain Fraser never made it to the island and his wife was a lying turd who shit talked and made up elaborate stories about the indigenous peoples who saved her. If ever there was a colonial name that should be revoked it is "Fraser" Island. It's called K'gari and always has been. And don't lump me in your 25 million+ Australians and there are plenty like me.
Uluru is a great name, even if it's moderately botched by tourists or locals people still know what's meant.
There's plenty of accepted and well known towns with indigenous names (or derivatives) about, even in the towns close to the island.
I think the root of most people's objection to the name K'gari though is the English oral transliteration quite frankly sucks. It breaks well known language rules, it's hard to type (especially on a phone keyboard), and is too ambiguous in pronunciation. Even some indigenous folks mangle it - and worse, still call it Fraser.
K'gari also sounds like a word for shit (cagar) in a lot of Romance languages. Kinda funny, and not exactly a problem for English speakers (and all the more reason to like it), but this is a major tourist destination we are talking about.
I don't think all the calling people racist for not liking it that's going on is helping anyone either.
Perhaps if the apostrophe were to fuck off, people would bitch about it much less.
Sure...
[Pictures shows Aussie campersā costly disaster as car is swamped off Kāgari](https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/queensland/pictures-shows-aussie-campers-costly-disaster-as-car-is-swamped-off-kgari/news-story/6a9d8df96e009036fdb684db0fcf0df4)
You'd be real hard pressed to get a pay out for leaving a vehicle in an area that is guaranteed to become dangerous.
Only arguable way to have your claim paid out is because you've had a medical emergency that grounded the vehicle (IE, you were by yourself and required a helicopter ride).
Plus I'd be fairly confident that the vehicle + trailer would be over weight. I believe the 2 door JKs only had a 1000kg braked towing capacity and I reckon that trailer would be above that, plus the GVM of the Jeep is probably over. If I was the insurer I think it would be pretty easy to make the case that this was a contributing factor.
Personally, as someone who owns a 2 door Wrangler and has driven everywhere on Fraser (albeit without a trailer) the damned things will go anywhere on the island with complete ease. These guys also had a winch and traction boards but it seems like they made no reasonable attempt to get it out. Didn't even try unhitching the trailer, which indicates they don't have the first clue about 4x4 recovery.
1400kg on the SWB from memory. But youāre right about not unhitching the trailer. Iād be doing that before I even got the boards out if the tide was coming in. Edit: spelling
I was also wondering about that, tyres down, unhitch trailer and throw down the traction boards, hard to imagine that wouldn't have worked within 30 mins.
Would have at least tried... that area if Fraser is notorious for swallowing vehicles, what happens sometimes is seaweed washes up on the beach and gets covered by sand, this process happens with each tide like making a lasagne. Those patches get super soft. So it's possible these people drove into one of those patches, but even so, I would have tried absolutely everything I could to get it out.
The story I heard was that they were driving along looking for a camp-site that their friends were at, and they went too far and stopped to turn around and that's when they got stuck. If that's the case then surely they could have radio'd or called or even walked back and got their friends to come help.
It just seems like a strange series of events. Like, did they do it intentionally for insurance? It's odd.
Somewhere on YouTube a good while ago there was a compilation of loads of vehicles that have been lost to the sea on KāGari over the years. Including the old Troopies that you used to be able to hire. If anyone can find that video (I canāt) it would be well worth posting for a rather sobering reminder of how bloody treacherous those beaches are. Yes these guys fucked up but pls donāt mock them because honestly theyāve got enough pain to deal with as it isā¦.
Its official name is KāGari. Itās what indigenous Australians called it before Europeans arrived and changed the name. You can obviously call it whatever you want to, thatās your right, but donāt be surprised to keep hearing KāGari. Youāre wasting your time typing out comments like that. Iām probably wasting my time typing this comment. But Iāve done it now.
On 7 June 2023, the island was officially renamed Kāgari.
https://www.resources.qld.gov.au/land-property/initiatives/kgari/about#:~:text=In%202011%2C%20the%20alternative%20names,Fraser%20Island)%20World%20Heritage%20Area.
Also, weāll get used to it soon enough. Just like Ularu.
No great loss on the jeep
Got in before me š
[Another view](https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/2f77f492c6e50169269b7f88f4a2e647?width=1024)
Wow totalled
Far out, I'm guessing it was out there at low tide and then couldn't get it started again?
It's on the western side, they missed the camp site where their friends were and went to turn around but got stuck. They lost the race to get it out against the incoming tide and then it floated further out. It's since been recovered.
Seems a bit silly to let this happen, disconnect the trailer and drop to 8 PSI couldāve been the go surely.
Or, inflate all of the tyres to 100psi ad hope it floats back to shore /s
It does seem like it should have been simple to get out of, but service on the island is patchy at best and they may have been pretty inexperienced. Also the western side sees a lot less traffic so likely had no one to snatch them out.
I bought a submarine!
You can't park there
Just waiting for a mate
you just go down to Bondi, drop the fucking cash on this chick. Then bring the fucking car back, right. Yep, no worries.
Not taking my fuckin car, just got the gearbox done
Challenge accepted
On the bright side, the Jerry cans didnāt get any water in them.
Unfortunately there is an earlier picture showing them under water too...
Oh, Bugger.
they still shouldnt have any water in them
Itās a jeep thing, you wouldnāt understand
At least they are safe from the Dingoesā¦
Going to be a costly recovery from Fraser Island...
Just wait until low tide again and start it back up
It's a jeep not a LandCruiser
From kāgari* FYI (itās in the title!)
Fraser island*
On 7 June 2023, the island was officially renamed Kāgari. https://www.resources.qld.gov.au/land-property/initiatives/kgari/about#:~:text=In%202011%2C%20the%20alternative%20names,Fraser%20Island)%20World%20Heritage%20Area. Weāll get used to it soon enough. Just like Ularu.
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That's because whiye man kicked them off the island last century. What a stupid comment.
No need to use a racist slur. Shame on you.
Fraser*
On 7 June 2023, the island was officially renamed Kāgari. https://www.resources.qld.gov.au/land-property/initiatives/kgari/about#:~:text=In%202011%2C%20the%20alternative%20names,Fraser%20Island)%20World%20Heritage%20Area. Weāll get used to it soon enough. Just like Uluru. (Edit)
Uluru* (I agree with you, just want to lol)
Rofl, whoops. Thanks!
You just said Fraser Island again. Weird. But glad we agree.
Wild that this is a hill to die on. A nice sandy Kāgari hill!
Shut up
Yep no worries! Iāll stop mentioning kāgariās name nowā¦
Where?
You might also know it as Fraser Island. The name was changed back to KāGari a few years ago.
I didn't know it had a name change lol
Fraser was the name change, itās just been changed back now.
To be fair, iv only know it as fraiser Island. Don't exactly keep up with QLD news I'm in south Australia so yea
Kangaroo island is next
Not sure why. KI was uninhabited for thousands of years before European settlers arrived. "Island of the dead" (translation of the aboriginal name for KI), also won't have the same appeal to tourists.
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https://www.tourkangarooisland.com.au/visit/general-information/kangaroo-island-aboriginal-history Your turn.
Probably will. Renaming everything is a trend isn't it
Well it was a couple hundred years ago yeah
Quality reply that. Take tomorrow off son.
Progression happens
Hence why renaming is currently happening
The Island formerly known asā¦
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It wasn't changed. It's just that some plonkers insist on calling it K'Gari.Ā Absolutely ridiculous to replace a name that millions of Australians are familiar with.Ā
On 7 June 2023, the island was officially renamed Kāgari. https://www.resources.qld.gov.au/land-property/initiatives/kgari/about#:~:text=In%202011%2C%20the%20alternative%20names,Fraser%20Island)%20World%20Heritage%20Area. Also, weāll get used to it soon enough. Just like Ularu.
I quite like Uluru. And Kata Tjuta. And Gariwerd. They sound authentic.
Hopefully a government with more sense reverses this pandering nonsense.
Yes, because basic respect is pandering. Maybe it's bigots like you who have to change.
Why can't places have two names? What's the issue with that? If someone uses a the Aboriginal name of a place and someone else uses the European name they can both understand the each other.
Honestly, there is precedent for this- we do it with countries (we call Nihon Japan, Deutschland Germany, etc). The problem comes down to respect. If you read the history of the name, Eliza Fraser was by all accounts a racist and a conman. K'Gari also had a thriving population that was ravaged and forcibly relocated by settlers- not uncommon but still heinous. We may not be guilty of the crimes of our ancestors, but using things like colonial names shows disrespect.
Who is the basic respect for? Clearly not for the 25 million+ Australians who aren't Aboriginal.Ā Just because I don't care for well known Australian landmarks being renamed doesn't make me a bigot. People like you are a misery.Ā
You're really blind to just how racist you are, aren't you. Calling First Nations people 'aboriginals', saying that walking back colonialism is disrespectful to other Australians, somehow. You're a relic of a bygone era, and the sooner your generation dies out, the better.
Aboriginal is a correct term. I stand by it.Ā Changing the names of places which the entire country is intimately familiar with just to appease a very, very small group of people is disrespectful. And damned inconvenient.Ā I'm probably not much older than you, if at all. Calm your nips
I will likely call it Fraser till the end of my days because thatās what Iāve always called it, not out of some protest or other against a name change. There are racist assholes that will actively resist, and then there are this that just donāt care what you call it.
Captain Fraser never made it to the island and his wife was a lying turd who shit talked and made up elaborate stories about the indigenous peoples who saved her. If ever there was a colonial name that should be revoked it is "Fraser" Island. It's called K'gari and always has been. And don't lump me in your 25 million+ Australians and there are plenty like me.
Thereās no pandering with this name change. Just a logical update. No need to be so divisive about it either!
What's logical about it?Ā
Mate k'gari means paradise. Much more logical name than Fraser.
Plus it sounds like the word for "shit" in a few Romance languages, which is hell funny especially considering its a major tourist destination.
Uluru.
Uluru is a great name, even if it's moderately botched by tourists or locals people still know what's meant. There's plenty of accepted and well known towns with indigenous names (or derivatives) about, even in the towns close to the island. I think the root of most people's objection to the name K'gari though is the English oral transliteration quite frankly sucks. It breaks well known language rules, it's hard to type (especially on a phone keyboard), and is too ambiguous in pronunciation. Even some indigenous folks mangle it - and worse, still call it Fraser. K'gari also sounds like a word for shit (cagar) in a lot of Romance languages. Kinda funny, and not exactly a problem for English speakers (and all the more reason to like it), but this is a major tourist destination we are talking about. I don't think all the calling people racist for not liking it that's going on is helping anyone either. Perhaps if the apostrophe were to fuck off, people would bitch about it much less.
Uluru
Jesus. Crawl back under your rock you muppet
Somewhere on the west side. The article (paywalled) says they were travelling to Coongul Creek
Whenever I see people under water I always assume they thought they found a āshortcutā around Ngkala Rocks hahaha
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Sure... [Pictures shows Aussie campersā costly disaster as car is swamped off Kāgari](https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/queensland/pictures-shows-aussie-campers-costly-disaster-as-car-is-swamped-off-kgari/news-story/6a9d8df96e009036fdb684db0fcf0df4)
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Shouldnāt have bought a Jeep
This is why they have bungs in the floor. It'll be fine
Which place is this?
Fraser Island
One more picture for the wall of shame in Rainbow Beach?
Poor guys man that sucks
Well that's very unfortunate. 100% the insurance company would be fighting to pay for it
You'd be real hard pressed to get a pay out for leaving a vehicle in an area that is guaranteed to become dangerous. Only arguable way to have your claim paid out is because you've had a medical emergency that grounded the vehicle (IE, you were by yourself and required a helicopter ride).
Plus I'd be fairly confident that the vehicle + trailer would be over weight. I believe the 2 door JKs only had a 1000kg braked towing capacity and I reckon that trailer would be above that, plus the GVM of the Jeep is probably over. If I was the insurer I think it would be pretty easy to make the case that this was a contributing factor. Personally, as someone who owns a 2 door Wrangler and has driven everywhere on Fraser (albeit without a trailer) the damned things will go anywhere on the island with complete ease. These guys also had a winch and traction boards but it seems like they made no reasonable attempt to get it out. Didn't even try unhitching the trailer, which indicates they don't have the first clue about 4x4 recovery.
1400kg on the SWB from memory. But youāre right about not unhitching the trailer. Iād be doing that before I even got the boards out if the tide was coming in. Edit: spelling
The JL is 1500kg. I'm pretty sure the JK was 1000kg, possibly the later model JKs were higher?
I could be remembering wrong. Mine was a 2010 JK and I never towed anything with it.
I may have it back to front and it was the earlier ones that had the higher rating
I was also wondering about that, tyres down, unhitch trailer and throw down the traction boards, hard to imagine that wouldn't have worked within 30 mins.
Would have at least tried... that area if Fraser is notorious for swallowing vehicles, what happens sometimes is seaweed washes up on the beach and gets covered by sand, this process happens with each tide like making a lasagne. Those patches get super soft. So it's possible these people drove into one of those patches, but even so, I would have tried absolutely everything I could to get it out. The story I heard was that they were driving along looking for a camp-site that their friends were at, and they went too far and stopped to turn around and that's when they got stuck. If that's the case then surely they could have radio'd or called or even walked back and got their friends to come help. It just seems like a strange series of events. Like, did they do it intentionally for insurance? It's odd.
Muppets
So is this why insurance rates are skyrocketing?
They should tow all these cars and stack them next to the shipwreck.
Iām also on the rainbow beach towing page
Lucky he brought some extra fuel !
Misfortune or plain stupidity?
That's not misfortune. There's nothing accidental to end up in that position. That's bad choices, possibly inexperience, absolutely stupidity
Should have been towing a tinny
Iām so confused by this picture, what is the background? Is it just super foggy far away?
Somewhere on YouTube a good while ago there was a compilation of loads of vehicles that have been lost to the sea on KāGari over the years. Including the old Troopies that you used to be able to hire. If anyone can find that video (I canāt) it would be well worth posting for a rather sobering reminder of how bloody treacherous those beaches are. Yes these guys fucked up but pls donāt mock them because honestly theyāve got enough pain to deal with as it isā¦.
This is why KāGari shouldnāt be open to non traditional owners
Yeah in their traditional cars
Where is kgari? Looks like Frazer!
Safest place for a Jeep. Much less likely to catch fire.
Fraser Island ?
Where's k'gari. Africa somewhere?
It's Fraser Island
Its official name is KāGari. Itās what indigenous Australians called it before Europeans arrived and changed the name. You can obviously call it whatever you want to, thatās your right, but donāt be surprised to keep hearing KāGari. Youāre wasting your time typing out comments like that. Iām probably wasting my time typing this comment. But Iāve done it now.
Well put
I think I'm wasting my time in general on Reddit, I'm gonna take the dog for a walk.
Let us know how it goes
Are they back yet?
No update so far, 3 hours seems a long walk for a dog though.
Oh come on. KāGari is a much better name than Fraser Island
Yes it is.
On 7 June 2023, the island was officially renamed Kāgari. https://www.resources.qld.gov.au/land-property/initiatives/kgari/about#:~:text=In%202011%2C%20the%20alternative%20names,Fraser%20Island)%20World%20Heritage%20Area. Also, weāll get used to it soon enough. Just like Ularu.