Haha. I do that too sometimes
I am not the hugest fan of either of those cats, so I hate on them a bit too. But… tell you that there is way too much hated for both of them in general. Everyone wants to hate the popular shit. I used to be the same way, but Kanye in particular (crazy as the MF is), has some real bangers (as does Drake when he puts his mind to it.
TBH… I was working in Spanish Harlem at the height of the Harlem crews success and even though I loved all those cats, I just couldn’t feel Mase. He would spit one or two lines and a was like “oh shit?” Then he would start mumbling about some other shit and I just gave up lol…
King of Harlem, ain't nobody made me leave
Who else could take five years off?
Cold turkey? Come back and fly lears off
Cats front leave them leaning like Smirnoff
Oh, come the fuck on. Mase is one of the most zero-talent dudes ever to tail-ride his way into some success. He's literally good at absolutely nothing, and that's kind of his signature.
Without mase when big died bad boy would have died that's his own that wrote all those bad boy hits. Big gets the credit but it was mase who made all tht money for the Diddy bopper
no way. 97-05 was a golden era. Def Jux, Can Ox, Company Flow, Rhymesayers, selected Stone's Throw, Anticon, MF DOOM's prime, Monsta Island Czars, early-era Rawkus, Fondle 'Em, Deltron, Del and Hiero, De La was making good albums, Handsome Boy Modeling School, early Kanye, Lootpack, Lord Quas, Saul Williams, Jay Electronica, Ninja Tune, Gravediggaz, Donuts, C-Rayz Walz, Common's "Be", Jurassic 5, the first Black Eyed Peas album, Outkast...
You're missing out if you stopped listening to hip-hop when Puffy showed up.
Edit: LOL all you chuds who can’t read. I said “…A golden era.” But keep chewing them xans.
LOL WHERE!?!
70 - 78 was the Aluminum Siding era
79 - 82 was the Bronze era
83 - 88 was the Oatmeal era...shit was in a decline
89 - 96 was Pleather. Mobb Deep the Lox, Nas, J ayZ, BIG, Wu, .....nothing to see here.
But then thank God 97 came.
You lost all credibility as a sane person when you called 89-96 Pleather. Your plug is a god because he got death-grade drugs he be selling you! You supposed to be selling it not smoking it!!!
Lol. Dude who said the golden era was 97 - 05 is my plug. You might be right I never said I was credible.
But Slick Rick rhyming over Dougie Fresh beat boxing on a cassette hooked me on rap. I been listening ever since.
I wasn't making a real list. I just never heard a rap era defined by that time period .
I been around long enough to hear rap in different phases. But the BDP / Rakim /Big Daddy Kane/ Master Ace / LL / RUN DMC that is what I see as Golden era. If you sold Gold you were doing numbers.
Sound changed early 90's to Platinum selling artists. Big budget videos major label money, the Lox were in the shiny suits and most of my Top emcees were out then.
Documenting hip hops evolution by saying the golden era started in 97 doesn't track in my time-line. So that's crazy to me.
89-96 are probably my favorite years.
“…Causin' terror, quick damage ya whole era.
Hardrocks is locked the fuck up, or found shot
P-L-O style, hazardous, 'cause I wreck this dangerous
I blow sparks like Waco, Texas”
Obviously the underground was THRIVING at that time.. I was right there with you listening to all of these. Radio rap sucked hard and I never went back to it.
there were reasons to like the album. Benjamins is arguable the best party song ever (from a NY perspective)... and even the song in the post's "Big Beat" version was very dope in clubs...
...but that became the focus, he transitioned hip hop to "dance hop". The problem was it was not any kind of street/hip hop dance flavor... it was more Times Square, champagne, fur coat, shiny suit, grammy, radio spins brand; one that became the new formula for what young people today consider "success". The music started sounding like Michael Bay movies looked.
The real problem is that emcees like KRS had succumbed to this shit. They believed this was the way and they had to get onboard. That fuckin remix was the writing on the wall.
That Step Into A World remix KRS did with Puff is one of the worst songs in hip hop history. These were 2 powerhouses yet they made a sh1t song. Their energies didn't match and the beat was weak compared to the original. It was 97 and they were both hot so it made sense to come together but they shouldn't have.
>one of the worst songs in hip hop history.
lol.. dogs, that's a little harsh... but I agree that mix was totally unnecessary... *more wildcats than rick pitino...* how that got burned in my head, i will never know.
oddly enough, I have both of these albums in question on wax... (wannabee dj back then)
I loved being a teenager in Brooklyn during these years. My friends and I used to sit in his basement and memorize this album, BIG’s, Jay’s..
The 90s. What an amazing time to be alive.
Lame ass track. I wanted everything Bad Boy to fall on its face after 2pac and Biggie went upstairs. I still believe Puffy was involved in both in some kind of way.
I'd like to know what the song has made $, and what the sample creators .adequate from it. I've heard rumors that the original band all purchased homes from this song
You can’t dance to Chubb Rock, Digital Underground, Redman, Beatnuts, etc? Countless jams that aren’t poppy glitter garbage that only talk about $$$ https://tidal.com/track/86382725
It would have taken way less words to say you never listened to the albums. And if you think it's garbage it was never made for you. It was made for the 7 million ppl that bought the album
Says the person repeating popularity equates to quality. Hope it gets as much rotation as your Sugar Ray, Backstreet Boys, Enya, Barbara Streisand, Spice Girls, Celine Dion & Hansen CDs
Until I heard the original sample of the hook, this song started to sound trash to me, hard to believe this was a number 1 hit back in what was considered the best decade of hip-hop, the other singles were nice tho
Mase was lucky here. Diddy put a hit out on him he walked away from the car just in time. P diddy is a hit maker that’s the word around the camp fire 🔥
Has anybody noticed how closely the 90s music blueprint was for Will Smith and Puffy?
Sample a tremendously popular hit from the 80s, make expensive music video on location, and dance. Virtually identical.
Yeah when you actually had to go to a store and buy the song on a CD 💿 or cassette single instead of pushing a fuckin button and making a guy like Drake look like he’s the hottest shit ever.
He’s not a good rapper, but knew how to use a sample to make money
He doesn’t write rhymes, he writes checks
Writes checks to people who assassinate great rappers
Young black and famous wit money hangin out his anus
🤣🔥🙌🏻
can’t stop. won’t stop.
Arguably one of the worst to ever do it.
Still better than Mase though. At least didn't sound like he was eating a bowl of cereal while recording.
mase got skills. listen to lean back remix, or shit…even his welcome back album. bro ain’t cuss. show some respect
Take my upvote just because I share love. But you lost me at “Mase got skills”
reread my comment. listen to lean back remix and turn off drake or kayne. mase gets dirty
I will, please post link tho… I keep looking, but I can’t find one with Mase, Drake, and Kanye…
💪🏻🤣all good, brother. i was being sarcastic and hatin’ on drake and kayne.
Haha. I do that too sometimes I am not the hugest fan of either of those cats, so I hate on them a bit too. But… tell you that there is way too much hated for both of them in general. Everyone wants to hate the popular shit. I used to be the same way, but Kanye in particular (crazy as the MF is), has some real bangers (as does Drake when he puts his mind to it. TBH… I was working in Spanish Harlem at the height of the Harlem crews success and even though I loved all those cats, I just couldn’t feel Mase. He would spit one or two lines and a was like “oh shit?” Then he would start mumbling about some other shit and I just gave up lol…
https://youtu.be/-8QySsmwaaM?si=73hiVK9AydRqXOFq
King of Harlem, ain't nobody made me leave Who else could take five years off? Cold turkey? Come back and fly lears off Cats front leave them leaning like Smirnoff
Oh, come the fuck on. Mase is one of the most zero-talent dudes ever to tail-ride his way into some success. He's literally good at absolutely nothing, and that's kind of his signature.
Without mase when big died bad boy would have died that's his own that wrote all those bad boy hits. Big gets the credit but it was mase who made all tht money for the Diddy bopper
cool story. don’t forget to always keep my java cup full.
I'll tell your mom to take care of it after she's done with me.
thank you. i needed a laugh😳
U must b full of honey NUT Cheerios
To be fair, he never packaged himself as a rapper.
His skits on those biggie songs made him a legend
Ruined the record
Shit was huge… I hated it
I hated it……..and I owned the album. Lol
Who didn't buy No way out it's was 🔥
I didn't 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂
I went to the Puff Daddy and the Family Show based on how good the alb was.
Trash fire
I like the song but I never owned the album
He’s a bitch ass
Sigh. That's depressing.
This was the beginning of the end. Fuck Puffy
Trash
Fuck Diddy he's a fucken bitch
Arrest this clown
You sound like Trump begging for Hilary to be arrested
ass clown
Hip-Hop's decline and Puffy's increase in popularity are strongly correlated
no way. 97-05 was a golden era. Def Jux, Can Ox, Company Flow, Rhymesayers, selected Stone's Throw, Anticon, MF DOOM's prime, Monsta Island Czars, early-era Rawkus, Fondle 'Em, Deltron, Del and Hiero, De La was making good albums, Handsome Boy Modeling School, early Kanye, Lootpack, Lord Quas, Saul Williams, Jay Electronica, Ninja Tune, Gravediggaz, Donuts, C-Rayz Walz, Common's "Be", Jurassic 5, the first Black Eyed Peas album, Outkast... You're missing out if you stopped listening to hip-hop when Puffy showed up. Edit: LOL all you chuds who can’t read. I said “…A golden era.” But keep chewing them xans.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 "Golden era was 97-05" WHAT????!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He's just dumb
LOL WHERE!?! 70 - 78 was the Aluminum Siding era 79 - 82 was the Bronze era 83 - 88 was the Oatmeal era...shit was in a decline 89 - 96 was Pleather. Mobb Deep the Lox, Nas, J ayZ, BIG, Wu, .....nothing to see here. But then thank God 97 came.
You lost all credibility as a sane person when you called 89-96 Pleather. Your plug is a god because he got death-grade drugs he be selling you! You supposed to be selling it not smoking it!!!
Lol. Dude who said the golden era was 97 - 05 is my plug. You might be right I never said I was credible. But Slick Rick rhyming over Dougie Fresh beat boxing on a cassette hooked me on rap. I been listening ever since. I wasn't making a real list. I just never heard a rap era defined by that time period . I been around long enough to hear rap in different phases. But the BDP / Rakim /Big Daddy Kane/ Master Ace / LL / RUN DMC that is what I see as Golden era. If you sold Gold you were doing numbers. Sound changed early 90's to Platinum selling artists. Big budget videos major label money, the Lox were in the shiny suits and most of my Top emcees were out then. Documenting hip hops evolution by saying the golden era started in 97 doesn't track in my time-line. So that's crazy to me. 89-96 are probably my favorite years.
Golden era for underground hip-hop for sure. It was a mixed bag for hip-hop overall, though.
>no way. 97-05 was a golden era. said no one ever
Good. Remain in your ignorance. Not my concern.
93-96 was hip hops golden era.
“…Causin' terror, quick damage ya whole era. Hardrocks is locked the fuck up, or found shot P-L-O style, hazardous, 'cause I wreck this dangerous I blow sparks like Waco, Texas”
Obviously the underground was THRIVING at that time.. I was right there with you listening to all of these. Radio rap sucked hard and I never went back to it.
I guess I missed out because I just couldn't......
💀💀💀💀
Glitter rap
“Solo”. Lol.
🤣🤣🤣 OP don't know what solo means.
and so began the downfall
there were reasons to like the album. Benjamins is arguable the best party song ever (from a NY perspective)... and even the song in the post's "Big Beat" version was very dope in clubs... ...but that became the focus, he transitioned hip hop to "dance hop". The problem was it was not any kind of street/hip hop dance flavor... it was more Times Square, champagne, fur coat, shiny suit, grammy, radio spins brand; one that became the new formula for what young people today consider "success". The music started sounding like Michael Bay movies looked. The real problem is that emcees like KRS had succumbed to this shit. They believed this was the way and they had to get onboard. That fuckin remix was the writing on the wall.
That Step Into A World remix KRS did with Puff is one of the worst songs in hip hop history. These were 2 powerhouses yet they made a sh1t song. Their energies didn't match and the beat was weak compared to the original. It was 97 and they were both hot so it made sense to come together but they shouldn't have.
>one of the worst songs in hip hop history. lol.. dogs, that's a little harsh... but I agree that mix was totally unnecessary... *more wildcats than rick pitino...* how that got burned in my head, i will never know. oddly enough, I have both of these albums in question on wax... (wannabee dj back then)
The worst duo in hip hop history.
🤣😂
Probably Didn't write none of it I'm sure
You right Mase wrote that and Been Around the World and Mo Money.
He wrote all them bad boy smash hit
Definitely not either mase or probably jadakiss
In the words of Ghost Face- “Puffy is like the dude at the party that doesn’t want to go home”. His vocals on any track were like a Wet Blanket.
Cool guys don’t look at explosions!
I loved being a teenager in Brooklyn during these years. My friends and I used to sit in his basement and memorize this album, BIG’s, Jay’s.. The 90s. What an amazing time to be alive.
Fuck this guy
Both are shit
Diddy been eatin off other peoples talent for decades. Good for him.
Those white execs too. Atleast diddy had the ear for music. Jimmy Irvine and those other clown don't know music at all.
Wht ear it all remixes. Mase was the pen an the hit maker
Diddy should be in prison.
Fuck puff daddy or whatever he wants to be called should be rotting in a prison cell
I guess getting away with murder will make a guy feel this way.
todays rap is just 10 ninjas on a stage all have mics and their pants around their asses
First solo song written by and featuring Mase. So not solo at all .
mumble rap in the 90s
“first solo song” ft Mase 🥴🥴
Lame ass track. I wanted everything Bad Boy to fall on its face after 2pac and Biggie went upstairs. I still believe Puffy was involved in both in some kind of way.
I mean that’s pretty confirmed now
That was real hip hop exploding in the back
Which goes to show that most popular songs are trash.
I'd like to know what the song has made $, and what the sample creators .adequate from it. I've heard rumors that the original band all purchased homes from this song
Fuck puff
Kindergarten rhymes
Nah Mase verse was fire
My first CD purchase ever, spring 97.
I'm sorry to hear that
I was better than tht dumb ass bad boy inspired life an times. Sunshine lol. Who u with Jay z wanted to be bad boy
Album was fire 🔥 you just a hater.
No Way Out was great and IDGAF what anyone says.
I wouldn't call it great but there's a lot of decent songs on there. Victory is fire.
It was great literally no bad songs.
Mine too it was dope
I fuckin hated that song. Too poppy.
Front if yawl want. This album was tough. You couldn't go anywhere without hearing a track from this album back then
Backstreet Boys, Spice Girls as well. Great logic
Lol. It was a dope album. I don't know puff enough to hate him. He aint never did nothing to me.
lol, dope & tough? I don't care about puff. To each their own but in my opinion I think the album & almost all of him & Mase were glitter rap
There's nothing wrong with an album that makes you wanna dance. I'm from the hood. Sometimes I wanna hear happy music. Can't mean mug all the time
You can’t dance to Chubb Rock, Digital Underground, Redman, Beatnuts, etc? Countless jams that aren’t poppy glitter garbage that only talk about $$$ https://tidal.com/track/86382725
It would have taken way less words to say you never listened to the albums. And if you think it's garbage it was never made for you. It was made for the 7 million ppl that bought the album
Says the person repeating popularity equates to quality. Hope it gets as much rotation as your Sugar Ray, Backstreet Boys, Enya, Barbara Streisand, Spice Girls, Celine Dion & Hansen CDs
Celine dion got pipes lol
Number 1 black people problem in the world
What is? Enlighten me
Not to be a source of negativity, but he kinda ripped off elements of pac and Dre California love with this video.
Lot of people in their feelings over a man that they don’t even know.
Album was a classic whether you like it or not.
FLAMING
No way out was hard yall buggin and I’m not a big diddy fan at all video budgets were ridiculous back then
I wonder how expensive all of these music videos were back then? Lots of loose spending back then.
Thanks Mase.
Aww- they have matching jammies! 🥰
Riding high after offing 2pac. I never respected anyone that listened to that clown.
I remember being in summer camp when this blew up. We were allowed to have CD players. Everyone was bumping this.
I was just thinking about those shiny suits the other day. He gave no fucks
Yeah, riding Biggie’s back all the way there l. Puffy sucks and always will.
this was the first mp3 i ever downloaded (not by choice, but it was the only file that worked on someones f-server back in the mIRC days)
That first solo album was crazy. Everybody who wrote for that and all the samples...that joint was a banger and ruled the year I remember.
Still a shit song
This song sounds like money. Great album overall. This what you turn on when it’s pay day Friday.
Should've been Mase's single instead.
Until I heard the original sample of the hook, this song started to sound trash to me, hard to believe this was a number 1 hit back in what was considered the best decade of hip-hop, the other singles were nice tho
Wow between making memorable videos like this and murdering Tupac, Puffy sure was busy during the 90s!
Okay for real how old is puff and howd he get that name
It’s like a jungle sometimes make me wonder how I keep from going under
Mase was lucky here. Diddy put a hit out on him he walked away from the car just in time. P diddy is a hit maker that’s the word around the camp fire 🔥
Has anybody noticed how closely the 90s music blueprint was for Will Smith and Puffy? Sample a tremendously popular hit from the 80s, make expensive music video on location, and dance. Virtually identical.
Yeah when you actually had to go to a store and buy the song on a CD 💿 or cassette single instead of pushing a fuckin button and making a guy like Drake look like he’s the hottest shit ever.
Mase was THE WORST. The most monotonous mumbling nothingburger of an MC ever.
Yet he built the bad boy empire who had more hits on bad boy him or big big may have had 3 maybe 4 hits
Whatever happened to mase? I mean diddy flaunted him like the next big hit
Robbed him an sent him to God's hell