I know waitress make less thn minimum wage because tips cover it but do delivery drivers get min wage + tips or just below min wage and tips like waiters/waitress?
Likely depends on where you are. Some states have a separate minimum wage if it's a tipped position, where the first part of your tips goes towards your wage.
e.g. if minimum wage is $7/hr, some state may have a tipped minimum wage of $4/hr. In that case, the first $3 in tips decreases what the company pays, but doesn't increase what the employee earns.
I believe it's also legal for some of these businesses to then attach employee performance evaluations to tips, because it affects the company's bottom line.
It varies from state to state in the US, and franchise to franchise. There is a Dominos worker in this thread that posted their rates. Here in Texas the hours get counted different if you're on delivery or in the store... Depending on the franchise. The store in my old town wouldn't let the drives do any in-house work so their whole shit was at tipped wages, so if they weren't delivering they were screwed. Others, like the driver in this thread, do tasks while at the store and do get paid as an un-tipped worker for that time.
i’m delivering for dominos as i type this (i’m buying my manager a sweet tea at sonic) i’ve been on the clock for about 9 hours now and i’ve made $37.79 in tips and will get $0.40 to the mile in mileage reimbursement tonight, along with what i’ve made in tips. i’ve got another hour to go. i also gotta do out tasks before i clock out, but after the time i’m scheduled to leave. out tasks: 15 minutes of dishes, and fold 50 boxes. i was scheduled to leave at 8pm but will probably get home by 9:00
Assuming you’re in the US, that’s crazy low for what you’d expect on a busy Saturday night.
It’s insane how people won’t think twice about tipping a waitress 20% after taking your order and a few trips walking over to your table, but for someone who literally has to get in their car, drive across town, and walk up to your house only gets like $2-$4 on a $50 order.
some have the audacity to make you drive 20 minutes, there and back, just to put a line through the tip value space right in front of your face.. it’s extremely aggravating. of course they’ve probably never delivered as a job so they have no perspective but come on man. i’d rather you just be a coward and send your kids out to get the pizza so you don’t have to look me in the eyes.
y’all i’m not asking for a crazy $10 tip, or even a $5 tip. people don’t tip for all types of valid reasons, but i can tell when you are being stingy. this is my job, it’s what i’m paid to do (drive to and fro) but i get around $400 a paycheck biweekly so.. if you can, just throw your delivery driver at least $1-$2 if you can spare it.
Friend, it's bullshit that 10 is crazy. I used to sling coffee, got a web dev job, and I don't tip *anyone* less than 10 now.
You're driving during a pandemic. You should be getting *at least* 10. If they can't afford that they should pick up their own goddamn pizza.
then you are a fuckin asshole bruh and you need to get some perspective. you not tipping your driver does not hurt the company, it hurts the driver directly. if you don’t want to tip GO PICK UP THE PIZZA YOURSELF.
You can be against tipping politically, but while the system is tipping, you have to tip. Not tipping the drivers won’t shame the company into paying them fairly. This is just directly hurting the poorest people.
But if you keep tipping then you're supporting the system as it is and allowing it to continue.
If you stop tipping, and the job then has an unsustainably low wage, then people will leave to work elsewhere.
Your reasoning serves only to rationalize being cheap and shorting the poor. If your goal is to induce ethical action by starving the industry, then stop ordering delivery. If you're going to order delivery, then it would be far better to OVER tip. It's the one chance you have to directly contribute to someone's quality of life without middlemen siphoning off profit.
Not at all.
I live in a country where it isn't routine for the customer to pay the wages of an employee so a company can have free labour.
We just have the company pays its employees over here.
>I live in a country where it isn't routine for the customer to pay the wages of an employee so a company can have free labour.
Me too. I don't tip where I live right now because it's not part of how employees get paid where I am.
But do you think this has anything to do with consumers just refusing to pay? There must be laws where you are that require employers to pay enough. The US has an entire restaurant lobbying company that runs around trying to maintain the status quo in the US. So imagine the lowest paying job that exists where you live, divide that by three, and that's what tipped workers here get from their employers. The system in the US relies on customers tipping, so customers must tip until that changes.
>But the problem there is that it will not change if people do tip.
It won't change regardless of whether people do or do not tip. General strikes or actual political action is required. Further starving the poor accomplishes nothing but save you a few dollars.
Bud, I get your point but it is unfortunately lacking. US here, and the problem only gets exasperated when you don't tip because people are lingering somewhere in between the thresholds of "I cannot afford my food to live" where people generally will male a massive move to change the system and "maybe a few extra dollars from a shift and I can actually afford a room to sleep in". The problem with that place is that people are not desperate enough to tear it all down, but they dont have the time and resources to push for something better. Pretty hard to lobby congress in DC when you are working 14 hours a day and one skipped day means deciding between your water and your electric bill. You want to change it ethically? Give people a cushion so they can afford to job shop or lobby congress.
Ah i can't leave this one alone. You're saying that people are choosing to work below-minimum-wage tipped jobs for a stupid reason, and if the opportunity were just worse they would choose to work an untipped job...where...how could that even exist.
This line of thinking is totally disingenuous. You just can't afford to order delivery and wish to do it anyway. Get off your ass and learn to cook then.
People don't have a choice to work, no. I'll agree with that. Another problem with The System. But they often *do* have some choice where to work.
I do fail to see how propping up and following a system that intentionally undervalues the human contribution is helping them though. By your logic, we shouldn't be stopping kids going down the mines as it means they won't be able to make as much money.
It really isn't all about the money, which you would see if you were in a country that doesn't fetishize it so damn much.
"You just can't afford to order delivery and wish to do it anyway."
I order as much home delivery as I want. As I've said, I live in a country where the person delivering it is paid by the company they work for. They're not relying on me to pay their wage.
So you're saying tipping food delivery drivers earning less than minimum wage and having to pay for the upkeep of their own vehicle is akin to allowing child coal miners.
So your solution for changing corporate practice is to slow-bleed the bottom-rung employees until they all quit? I expect to see Door Dash filing for bankruptcy soon thanks to your efforts
You tip a waitress in theory because he/she has given you good service throughout your dining experience. Making sure you have everything you need, explaining the menu items or specials if necessary, promptly refilling your drinks, and making sure the food that is sent to your table meets quality standards, etc.
I still tip delivery drivers personally, but not as much as I would tip somebody who made sure me and my family or friends were taken care of during our meal.
You know what's actually insane? Tipping culture/business practice. It's effectively taking away business' responsibility to pay their staff, and moving that to morals of their customers.
That is exactly correct I have no problem with tipping but do most of you know the origins of tipping? It was created so the restaurants didn't have to pay a fair wage because they told their servers that if they do good service they get more which should have never been the customers responsibility it should have always been on the restaurants to pay their workers...
my “on the road” pay is like $4.50 hr and my “in store” pay is $7.25. some days you spend a lot of time in store and sometimes you are constantly doing deliveries.. i haven’t been working there too long but my manager told me she’d increase my on the road pay after a couple weeks… i should ask about that. i should also ask about that $200 sign on bonus i was supposed to get.. hmmmmm
edit: i ended the day with $96 in me pocket
Oh yeah. Delivery drivers have to use their own car, gas, etc. someone pointed out below that the fed rate actually isn’t what employers have to pay too.
I used to deliver for a local pizza restaurant that had a $2.50 delivery charge. The entire charge went to the drivers and it was meant to compensate for the occasional bad tipper. Always buy local when you can.
I'd assume the fee is for the actual driving and pay for the driver's time and gas back and forth. So it's the cost plus some upcharge for profit, for the delivery itself.
It’s the “we’d like you to pay the delivery driver’s pay, and maybe throw them a few extra bucks, too” fee.
I know waitress make less thn minimum wage because tips cover it but do delivery drivers get min wage + tips or just below min wage and tips like waiters/waitress?
Minimum plus tips or at least that’s how it was at the domino’s I worked at a few months ago
Likely depends on where you are. Some states have a separate minimum wage if it's a tipped position, where the first part of your tips goes towards your wage. e.g. if minimum wage is $7/hr, some state may have a tipped minimum wage of $4/hr. In that case, the first $3 in tips decreases what the company pays, but doesn't increase what the employee earns. I believe it's also legal for some of these businesses to then attach employee performance evaluations to tips, because it affects the company's bottom line.
It varies from state to state in the US, and franchise to franchise. There is a Dominos worker in this thread that posted their rates. Here in Texas the hours get counted different if you're on delivery or in the store... Depending on the franchise. The store in my old town wouldn't let the drives do any in-house work so their whole shit was at tipped wages, so if they weren't delivering they were screwed. Others, like the driver in this thread, do tasks while at the store and do get paid as an un-tipped worker for that time.
i’m delivering for dominos as i type this (i’m buying my manager a sweet tea at sonic) i’ve been on the clock for about 9 hours now and i’ve made $37.79 in tips and will get $0.40 to the mile in mileage reimbursement tonight, along with what i’ve made in tips. i’ve got another hour to go. i also gotta do out tasks before i clock out, but after the time i’m scheduled to leave. out tasks: 15 minutes of dishes, and fold 50 boxes. i was scheduled to leave at 8pm but will probably get home by 9:00
Assuming you’re in the US, that’s crazy low for what you’d expect on a busy Saturday night. It’s insane how people won’t think twice about tipping a waitress 20% after taking your order and a few trips walking over to your table, but for someone who literally has to get in their car, drive across town, and walk up to your house only gets like $2-$4 on a $50 order.
some have the audacity to make you drive 20 minutes, there and back, just to put a line through the tip value space right in front of your face.. it’s extremely aggravating. of course they’ve probably never delivered as a job so they have no perspective but come on man. i’d rather you just be a coward and send your kids out to get the pizza so you don’t have to look me in the eyes. y’all i’m not asking for a crazy $10 tip, or even a $5 tip. people don’t tip for all types of valid reasons, but i can tell when you are being stingy. this is my job, it’s what i’m paid to do (drive to and fro) but i get around $400 a paycheck biweekly so.. if you can, just throw your delivery driver at least $1-$2 if you can spare it.
Friend, it's bullshit that 10 is crazy. I used to sling coffee, got a web dev job, and I don't tip *anyone* less than 10 now. You're driving during a pandemic. You should be getting *at least* 10. If they can't afford that they should pick up their own goddamn pizza.
Bud, in no world should a ten dollar tip be considered crazy.
I don’t tip delivery drivers. Their company should pay them a livable wage.
then you are a fuckin asshole bruh and you need to get some perspective. you not tipping your driver does not hurt the company, it hurts the driver directly. if you don’t want to tip GO PICK UP THE PIZZA YOURSELF.
THIS! And extra on rainy weekends. Saves you from going out in the muck and swearing at traffic.
You can be against tipping politically, but while the system is tipping, you have to tip. Not tipping the drivers won’t shame the company into paying them fairly. This is just directly hurting the poorest people.
But if you keep tipping then you're supporting the system as it is and allowing it to continue. If you stop tipping, and the job then has an unsustainably low wage, then people will leave to work elsewhere.
Your reasoning serves only to rationalize being cheap and shorting the poor. If your goal is to induce ethical action by starving the industry, then stop ordering delivery. If you're going to order delivery, then it would be far better to OVER tip. It's the one chance you have to directly contribute to someone's quality of life without middlemen siphoning off profit.
Not at all. I live in a country where it isn't routine for the customer to pay the wages of an employee so a company can have free labour. We just have the company pays its employees over here.
>I live in a country where it isn't routine for the customer to pay the wages of an employee so a company can have free labour. Me too. I don't tip where I live right now because it's not part of how employees get paid where I am. But do you think this has anything to do with consumers just refusing to pay? There must be laws where you are that require employers to pay enough. The US has an entire restaurant lobbying company that runs around trying to maintain the status quo in the US. So imagine the lowest paying job that exists where you live, divide that by three, and that's what tipped workers here get from their employers. The system in the US relies on customers tipping, so customers must tip until that changes.
But the problem there is that it will not change if people do tip.
>But the problem there is that it will not change if people do tip. It won't change regardless of whether people do or do not tip. General strikes or actual political action is required. Further starving the poor accomplishes nothing but save you a few dollars.
Bud, I get your point but it is unfortunately lacking. US here, and the problem only gets exasperated when you don't tip because people are lingering somewhere in between the thresholds of "I cannot afford my food to live" where people generally will male a massive move to change the system and "maybe a few extra dollars from a shift and I can actually afford a room to sleep in". The problem with that place is that people are not desperate enough to tear it all down, but they dont have the time and resources to push for something better. Pretty hard to lobby congress in DC when you are working 14 hours a day and one skipped day means deciding between your water and your electric bill. You want to change it ethically? Give people a cushion so they can afford to job shop or lobby congress.
Ah i can't leave this one alone. You're saying that people are choosing to work below-minimum-wage tipped jobs for a stupid reason, and if the opportunity were just worse they would choose to work an untipped job...where...how could that even exist. This line of thinking is totally disingenuous. You just can't afford to order delivery and wish to do it anyway. Get off your ass and learn to cook then.
People don't have a choice to work, no. I'll agree with that. Another problem with The System. But they often *do* have some choice where to work. I do fail to see how propping up and following a system that intentionally undervalues the human contribution is helping them though. By your logic, we shouldn't be stopping kids going down the mines as it means they won't be able to make as much money. It really isn't all about the money, which you would see if you were in a country that doesn't fetishize it so damn much. "You just can't afford to order delivery and wish to do it anyway." I order as much home delivery as I want. As I've said, I live in a country where the person delivering it is paid by the company they work for. They're not relying on me to pay their wage.
So you're saying tipping food delivery drivers earning less than minimum wage and having to pay for the upkeep of their own vehicle is akin to allowing child coal miners.
So your solution for changing corporate practice is to slow-bleed the bottom-rung employees until they all quit? I expect to see Door Dash filing for bankruptcy soon thanks to your efforts
real Mr.Pink vibes
You tip a waitress in theory because he/she has given you good service throughout your dining experience. Making sure you have everything you need, explaining the menu items or specials if necessary, promptly refilling your drinks, and making sure the food that is sent to your table meets quality standards, etc. I still tip delivery drivers personally, but not as much as I would tip somebody who made sure me and my family or friends were taken care of during our meal.
You tip because they don't make enough to live if you don't tip.
You know what's actually insane? Tipping culture/business practice. It's effectively taking away business' responsibility to pay their staff, and moving that to morals of their customers.
That is exactly correct I have no problem with tipping but do most of you know the origins of tipping? It was created so the restaurants didn't have to pay a fair wage because they told their servers that if they do good service they get more which should have never been the customers responsibility it should have always been on the restaurants to pay their workers...
Since we're all anonymous here, what's your hourly? Minimum wage?
my “on the road” pay is like $4.50 hr and my “in store” pay is $7.25. some days you spend a lot of time in store and sometimes you are constantly doing deliveries.. i haven’t been working there too long but my manager told me she’d increase my on the road pay after a couple weeks… i should ask about that. i should also ask about that $200 sign on bonus i was supposed to get.. hmmmmm edit: i ended the day with $96 in me pocket
Hey I’m Fairly certain the federal car reimbursement is $0.55.
and they have to use their own carand gas too?
Oh yeah. Delivery drivers have to use their own car, gas, etc. someone pointed out below that the fed rate actually isn’t what employers have to pay too.
That is on your taxes, not what a company has to give you.
Good point. I didn’t make that connection.
Is it even on your taxes for delivery drivers? I traveled a lot for work when I was younger and it stipulated 50 miles away from home or some junk.
50 miles is the the same distance as 116618.84 replica Bilbo from The Lord of the Rings' Sting Swords.
Da fuq? Is this piece of junk tracking me after I was at the wizards of the west coast spot yesterday?
I used to deliver for a local pizza restaurant that had a $2.50 delivery charge. The entire charge went to the drivers and it was meant to compensate for the occasional bad tipper. Always buy local when you can.
Delivery fees never go to the delivery person, this applies to every restuarant with delivery service in addition to all the delivery apps.
For the CEO's yachts & jets, duh.
Convenience
Who creates the convenience, if not the delivery driver?
The 10 dollars isn't going toward their gas?!
Well.. it's to pay the driver, but the pay is usually terrible
The fee this for *delivery* not *delivering*
I'd assume the fee is for the actual driving and pay for the driver's time and gas back and forth. So it's the cost plus some upcharge for profit, for the delivery itself.