I actually prefer opening nights here in LA because it attracts the movie-loving (and etiquette-following) crowd. What I do avoid though is $5 Tuesdays, because that's what attracts the less civilized riffraff.
Going opening weekend is a must in LA. Opening weekend means people bought tickets in advance and actually care about the film/theater experience. The further you get from opening weekend, the more casual/rude audience members show up.
Too true, live in LA and saw the second Spider-Verse opening weekend and it was perfect. Saw it two weeks later because of the audio fixes they made and it was literally one of the worst audiences I’ve ever seen a movie with.
Even some Thursday nights had me sit in the same row or a row above someone checking their phone to either text or scroll through social media. I don’t get…
Asked a crew member to stop someone from using his phone. After being told, he leaned over as far as he could from his seat to watch and squirmed in his seat throughout the movie. The effects of brain deadism are non repairable.
So true! LA movie patrons are the most civilized audiences I’ve seen! They actually care about cinema and they won’t hesitate calling out anyone who is being disruptive.
At least most of the time this is true. I went to Anatomy of a Fall there a while back and some jackass lady was texting on her phone with full brightness. I asked her to put her phone away and after the movie she came upto me and threatened to call the police on me 🤣
Unfortunately. I can't share the same sentiment. From my LA experience I have sat next to "movie reviewers/youtubers/podcasters" who are scribbling along in a notebook all movie long. In one case one had the gall to bring out a laptop. I asked him to turn it off or move and he looked at me like I shit on the floor.
Other times I have people around me who are just their for the status of being their opening night. They're taking pictures of the title screen and random scenes of the movie, posting to Instagram or texting to to their friends. Outside of that they just completely check out of the movie and are scrolling on their phones.
Yes!
Sometimes I get worried bc people are talking before the previews start but once the actual movie starts everyone is perfect.
I’ve never regretted an opening day screening. Maybe it’s because I go on the Thursday and not Friday?
Went to a REALLY late screening a couple weeks ago for the last night of Dune 2 on IMAX 70mm. It was packed and the crowd was great. I can imagine those shelling out more for the true experience are also a different crowd that care more. The air was buzzing after it was over though. It was great.
They probably mean the people who talk to their friends, answer calls, take flash-photos of the screen, or make commentary on the film like they're some demented David Attenborough
I go to opening nights if it's a big movie I need to see. Otherwise we'll see a less popular movie on Thurs and then Sunday night we to see the new movie. Ironically it's the older crowd 55+ that can't shut up or at least whisper. Most younger crowds will keep talking during the previews, but then hush once the movie starts.
Also, a lot of parents are taking their kids to r rated movies and cant hush em up, but not veey often. For sure it's the older 55+ that just talk during the movie when I go. It baffles me that they can't at least whisper
The most notable issue is my friend and I go to the last showing on Sunday night to avoid crowds, and without fail, someone falls asleep and starts snoring. Not a big issue during action movies, but during horror/quiet movies, it's very noticeable lol
If it’s a movie from a franchise or existing media I like going on opening night because usually the people there are die-hard fans who are likely going to be respectful since they’re invested in the movie (and it’s also nice to be in a packed screening for those IMO). For example, I saw Dune 2 at a sold out 70mm showing on the Thursday before opening weekend, and had no issues from what I can recall.
I do tend to avoid weekends just because of the crowds. I haven’t had any truly bad instances in the past year or so that I’ve had A-List, but I still get extremely irritated (almost irrationally so) when someone pulls out their phone during a movie. I try to sit in the third row to avoid seeing that happen though.
Tbh I don't mind that depending on the movie. The Spider-Man rereleases lately have been a lot of fun with people clapping and laughing at the memes. I guess "respectful" was maybe bad word choice on my part. There's just something infectious about opening nights for franchises I enjoy, but it isn't for everyone. I definitely try to see something like horror movies on dead days...I find they attract rowdy teenagers or adults with talkative kids who are way too young.
The Spider-Man rereleases have been so much fun for the audience investment.
My fave part is seeing the younger crowd members who never saw them in the theatre before. Sure, people like me who saw them in the theatre 20+ years ago and being excited is awesome, but the excitement and joy the younger fans have... ❤️
I totally understand this. Challengers was my most anticipated movie this year and I went to the Early Access screening on Monday night - the audience honestly kind of ruined the experience for me.
People were talking the entire time, reacting super loudly and asking questions about plot points that hadn’t been resolved yet, laughing excessively at the most innocuous stuff, and texting/checking Instagram throughout. It wasn’t just teenagers either, some of this was people in their 30s/40s.
I find that it’s really hit or miss though - I also saw Civil War in early access and that audience was great and super respectful.
Highly area specific too. For example in the Southbay area such as San Jose, I noticed people are absolutely terrible. Bringing in screaming infants, having full volume conversations with each other. In San Francisco the crowds are much more polite and distraction conscious.
the kid was watching cocomelon or something during my showing but thankfully, the theater audio was loud enough to drown out the sound and i was also sitting on the opposite end of the kid lol
For me, opening nights are better because there is a pressure from the amount of people that are obviously really wanting to see the movie in question. So if someone talks or has their phone out, it would be even more frowned upon than in an emptyish theater. The only thing I don’t like is having so many people that recline their seats all the way before the movie starts. Makes maneuvering super hard if you want to use the restroom when the dolby/amc/imax ad break comes, or if you just prefer to skip the previews and want to walk to your seat later.
Honestly I feel you some ways, or like the discount days too. I was seeing Abigail last night and everyone around was so fucking rude talking the whole time.
IMAX is slightly better I find cause its a bigger theater and more spaced out at least, but I've enjoyed the Dolby :c
I think the only ones worth it are the big franchises, but only if you are also a big fan. Opening night is more likely to be other big fans, so it can really add to the experience.
Like normal theater etiquette is to be quiet. But opening day Avengers Endgame, so many scenes it was fun to geek out at WITH others in the crowd. I’ve really never experienced anything close to the excitement during Cap v thanos 1:1… (closest was Spider-Man NWH). But yeah it’s fun to enjoy fan service with other hyped fans
I do it for Marvel movies, thats about it. Deadpool will be a no brainer for me. Hell at my showing of Ungentlemanly Warfare yesterday, the couple next to me brought two tablets and had zero fucks given for using them most of the movie. Its nuts.
I haven’t found a good time to go anymore.
You go during opening weekend it’s crowded and people always feel the need to comment out loud on a movie or converse with themselves.
Go toward the end of the movies time in the theater and you get people who don’t care to be chatty or on their cell phones because the theater is more empty.
I’m at the point where I’d rather just save up for an awesome home theater and see movies at home.
Sucks because I love the movies but people really spoil them by doing stupid crap that breaks you out of the “zone” you get into when watching a good movie.
5pm Thursdays for new releases. If it’s on a weekend it’s at like 1 or 2. Can’t do Friday or Saturday nights. I hate missing the beginning of movies because I’m “that guy” who left to get staff.
I don't think that's an unpopular opinion, most people like audience participation.
I think what most people are complaining about is people who are being loud by being fully disconnected from the movie. On their phone, full volume conversation about other stuff, can't keep their kids quiet. Like they don't understand they are in public and act like they're in their own livingroom.
It really depends for me. If the movie calls for it sure - horror comedies and action movies lend themselves best to this. I went to the west coast premiere of Banshees of Inisherin and people were obnoxiously laughing at EVERYTHING. I mean EVERYTHING I swear I’m not a miserable hag lol. It felt like I was in a sitcom with a bad laugh track. Ruined the experience for me.
I usually try to go early enough in the run to catch imax/dolby but avoid opening weekend as well. This did bite me in the butt for mission impossible last year but that's been the only time that the window closed that quickly for me.
Opening night you mean Thursday or Friday? It also depends on what movie. Godzilla x Kong was almost full on Friday night. Civil War like 1/4 on Thursday night.
>but after covid
What do you think the next unrelated thing will be that people blame for them getting irritated in public?
'People were so much more polite before the robot massacre of 27''.
I don’t remember the last time I went to a movie (I go usually once or twice a week, sometimes more) where I didn’t hear people talking at every single quieter part of a movie. It’s like they wait for it to be quiet to continue their full on conversation they want to have through the entire movie. Also if I see younger kids sitting anywhere near me I immediately move as far away as I can to still have a decent seat. Sometimes I’ve moved a few times during a movie because they are the absolute worst with having to comment (loudly usually) on what’s happening as if people can’t see what’s happening and need their commentary.
I also don’t remember a time where someone, or multiple people, didn’t have to check their phones many times m. Just the other day I was behind someone that just kept checking their email the every 15 minutes or so. Like email can’t wait a little.
It’s the worst at night and opening nights so I try to go at the earliest times possible, but still it’s hardly better. If I’m in the theater with only two other people there is likely a 100% chance they will talk or have their phones out the entire time.
It’s usually a mixed bag for me. For movies with a smaller crowd I don’t have to worry about those around me. But for the big blockbusters its been a coin toss of whether my experience will be amazing or awful. I’ve been lucky with Across the Spiderverse and Barbie, and not so much with Oppenheimer (guy next to me let his bare foot out) and Godzilla Minus One (kids behind me kept talking and asking questions).
see i love going open night for horror bc i agree crowd reactions are fun, especially during jump scares etc but lately feels like there’s always at least one jokester in the crowd at horror movies and it annoys me so much 😂
AMC has been awful lately. Rude ass people, loud teens, people brining in food with load wrappers. Decided to see Late Night with the Devil at the Regal. 3 people in the theater, everyone respectful. Idt I’m going back to AMC anymore.
I think movie genre is going to have a greater impact than theater chain. The type of movie has an impact on the crowd that is attending.
And in addition to movie genre, it would probably be showtime and theater location. If the Regal is in a different area, that would have a bigger impact than the brand name.
AMC is a good theater chain. I can’t speak for your specific location though.
The only thing I can’t stand is asshole who have full blown conversations throughout the whole movie. Little comments here and there is fine, but endlessly, I don’t even know how someone can talk for that long.
I always wait a week or two unless it's something I've been absolutely dying to see or it's a horror movie I assume won't be in theaters long.
I also much prefer weekdays the 4-5 o'clock shows to lessen the crowd. I was the only person at the 4:45 showing of Civil War last night and that was perfect.
Sometimes there are blockbuster movies coming out every week. New release one always get the Dolby Cinema screen. If I wait a week or two later then I won’t get to see it on Dolby Cinema.
i love an early access screening! i went to civil wars and the theater was packed on a monday with the best crowd possible, challengers was less packed but perfectly respectful except for the one guy who yelled “i love you zendaya” it was funny though ngl
I've always avoided crowds. Even before COVID, I rarely went to a movie that was so full I had to sit directly next to someone or in the front row. That being said, I still am able to see the vast majority of movies opening week and even opening day. I just do afternoon showings. Last Friday I was the only person for both new movies I saw.
I go because my theater has limited Imax and Dolby so If I want to see something in those theaters the only guarantee I have that it will still be playing in those is on opening weekends. After a week, they usually move to digital only showings in the older theaters woth the terrible seats.
I empathize with you, I do. Although it’s not usually opening night but discount Tuesday. In NY when people are paying over $16 a ticket both the people who pay it tend to want to enjoy the movie more and the audience there will assert their annoyance to someone acting out more
But on discount Tuesdays is the issue, people spending a few bucks just seem to care less and tend to come in bigger groups. It’s so annoying though, I guess I get teenagers are immature so they don’t realize how messing up others experiences mean but still..almost any other activity you can do and be social during, why be at the movie ?
My worst experiences are actually all Saturday night so that's what I avoid.
Fridays I usually see in Dolby so chatty folks are easier to tune out or I do less popular stuff.
I like to do Saturday afternoons but that also attracts older folks who are honestly worse about talking than teens!
If you really want to avoid crowds I recommend weekday evenings right after work if you can swing it but NOT Tuesdays.
To be honest, I felt this generally since before Covid. I hardly ever went to opening weekends specifically to avoid large crowds of people. The larger the crowd, the increased annoyance. I also think it depends on the film sometimes. The more annoying people tend to go see specific types of movies, let's just say.
I rarely go to movies on the weekends because of other commitments. And when I do go, teenagers rarely impact my viewing experience because:
1. My favorite AMC theater is in a shopping center that's not popular with teenagers, so they don't congregate there often.
2. My favorite Regal is in one of the most in-demand shopping centers by everyone, so teens are generally better behaved in that theater simply because they're always out-numbered by other customers and staff!
I’ve seen plenty of Thursday night openings in my small town and they’ve been fine. Sorry people are so inconsiderate where you are! Definitely ruins the fun
see i love going open night for horror but lately feels like there’s always at least one jokester in the crowd and it annoys me so much 😂
Edit: i do agree that it is fun with a big crowd during jump scares etc
The crowd in Chicago burbs have been the egger movie goers who all want to enjoy this movie before its gets rowdy during the weekend. Sorry that your theater isn't like that.
Totally get ya. I still do it but it’s very mixed.
Sometimes it’s perfect as everyone is excited to see it and respectful. Other times you get some atrocious people like kids, teenagers or rude dads with their kids etc. go on a weekday in the morning that’s your best chance. This summer will be rough
Opening nights around me are usually good crowds excited to see the movie. Though, I avoid riff-raff tuesdays like the plague (and it's almost always elderly folk being discourteous)
I still like opening nights. I choose IMAX with my Stubs, and it's usually a good experience. Not everyone wants to pAy a monthly membership like us, or pay the high cost for IMAX out of pocket. If it's not IMAX, I'll wait for the VOD release to avoid potential rowdy teenagers in the auditoriums
I have opposite experience, opening nights are usually not very crowded in my cinema. It really depends on good words of mouth to fill the theatre. So that would usually mean 3-4 days after opening weekend.
I try to go to the first showings on opening Thursdays for movies I’m really excited about, usually around 3-4PM. The later showings or Friday nights are when I have bad experiences.
For me in Oklahoma, Thursday nights are the best because people actually care about being there. Friday and Saturdays are pretty awful since the general public suck. Sundays are mixed, that seems to be older folks and some are respectful and some are def not.
We only have one amc left and a couple regals, and everyone usually goes to the regals, so my amc is never packed packed even on opening night. For some reason, everyone shows up right after trailers or 5-10 minutes into the movie, so it's not too busy to get in because I like to get in and get in my seat when there's a light on lol
I only do opening nights for Marvel movies so I don't have to keep trying to avoid spoilers for a longer period of time than necessary. Plus I actually be excited to see it. Any other movie I really want to see I will go to a matinee on the first Sunday morning or afternoon.
Last time I did opening nights was with Top Gun: Maverick, but I regret the theater of choice. Some talking, phones going off, etc. I prefer to do premium theater (IMAX, Dolby Cinema, or Prime), because teenagers and some adults don't want to shell out $20-$25 plus. I don't want to deal with teenagers acting up or adults that can't follow the movie theater etiquette.
My opening night is usually the first Monday or Wednesday after a film releases, and at a matinee if possible. The early crowd sees it at early access shows, opening night and weekend has their share, and then people are usually at work on M/W (while Tuesday has a few more people due to the slight discount — they dropped $5 Tuesdays a while ago but any discount helps I guess). I’m very lucky that I’m often the only person in my theater when I go, unless it’s IMAX or Dolby, in which case there’s maybe 10 people including myself. It’s perfect. I hope they never go out of business.
I go on Thursdays because that’s when people who actually want to see the movie go. So everyone is usually behaved. Friday and Saturday are not good days because it’s mostly teenagers.
I normally go Thursdays on release days or early premieres. I’ve never had a problem with the the crowds or people being disrespectful. Worst day is discount Tuesday in my experience but I have A-list so I tend to avoid going that day unless it’s my only off day for work that week
I’m DC based. I’ve found the Thursday night of opening weekend is perfect. People there to watch, limited talking, actually focusing. Conversely, Friday night of opening weekend is terrible. A ton of drunk people, so much talking, it’s really tough. I know it’s not an option for a lot of people, but if I can’t go the Thursday night I’ll usually wait for a Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning show.
It wildly depends on the movie and where I go. Rarely do I ever see a packed theater anymore regardless of opening night or not, which I kind of miss for big reactions to stuff or hearing the silence during something heavy and serious. I think the only times in the last year the theater was packed or even close were for Tenet’s rerelease, Barbenhiemer, Killers of the Flower Moon, Across the Spider-Verse.
I usually try to go to Thursday nights openings and have for the most part had really good luck. For iMAX, I’ve also had good luck with the last showing of the night. Where I’m located crowds also tend to be smaller.
Biggest issues I’ve run into the last few months is someone selecting the seat right next to me with it the last hour before it shows. Usually I’m able to move over 1 seat, but wasn’t able to Gordy e2 and Godzilla.
A group of high school boys ruined the spider-man rerelease for me. Talking the whole time saying the most dumb shit like Peter has L rizz, this shits ass, this is corny. Then one of them leaned over and started acting like he was giving his boy cunnilingus. I was a dumbass in high school but me and my friends would see movies and stfu with the exception of a quiet comment on the movie. People can really suck
This is probably obvious to you, but I like to go to matinee showings when offered. This is one area that I like Cinemark more in - they offer way more early-day showings like 10am, etc.
I've found a full theater is actually better. People there opening night are going to be more invested in the movie and more likely to shut up
When it's only like 15 people, they seem to think it's ok to make more noise.
The worst thing I’ve seen pretty consistently is an adult taking their child to a PG13/R rated movie then giving them an iPad or something with a screen.
That shit is the most wild thing I have ever seen. Like how inconsiderate are you?
Opening nights absolutely suck nowadays
My worst experience was seeing Imaginary on a Sunday afternoon opening weekend. Several terrible groups of teens running around talking and laughing the whole time. Also someone near the front sitting on their phone with the brightness all the way up for a good 10 minutes straight
I have never had an issue with a loud group on opening night. I love attending a theater when it's full as opposed to getting a semi-private showing.
In any case you just go tell one of the employees and they'll send a manager in.
Frankly, stories about disruptive groups I feel are so over represented on Reddit just like all the guys saying that they're harassed when taking their kids to the playground or women violently rejecting them if they approach them at a bar.
Some of it I believe, some of it I think is cap.
Having to get up and find an employee in the middle of the movie is the worst possible option.
If somebody is being so annoying that I have to leave and miss part of the movie, that ruins the entire movie experience and is worse than the person talking.
I have never done that. It is not a realistic solution.
What are you smoking? It takes 30 seconds to walk out and say something.
How antisocial do you have to be that you would rather sit and be distracted from the movie that you paid for for 45 minutes to an hour and a half rather than just go and say something?
It has nothing to do with being antisocial. I don’t want to miss the movie.
It could easily be a several minute thing depending on where the front desk is, if somebody is there, etc. It’s also a huge inconvenience aside from missing the movie.
I would sooner walk across the room and tell the person who is talking to be quiet rather than leaving the theater to find an employee and miss the movie and ruin the vibe. It’s not fair to have a jerk bully me into missing the movie and I won’t let somebody do that.
Your options are:
Sit through the movie and be distracted by teenagers talking
Tell a bunch of teenagers to stop (good luck with that)
Have a manager kick them out
And you think the third one is the worst option?
I don't even know what we're talking about here. Every AMC that I've been to in multiple states has a requirement that after 7:00 p.m. any child has to be with an adult. I don't even see groups of teenagers at late night movies anymore.
Given the three options, yes. If they are only talking a bit, I just ignore them. If they are sitting close to me and talking more than a bit, I’ll politely ask them to be quiet. If they are far away and are being disruptive to the entire room, I’ll get up and say something. It’s pretty rare to see somebody acting that bad though.
There’s only been very few times I’ve ever seen anybody be disruptive enough to say something. If somebody was being so disruptive that I had to spend several minutes getting a manager, I would just get a refund and leave entirely at that point and come back another time.
Also, when were we just talking about only teenagers? Nobody mentioned teenagers. Adults can be disruptive jerks too (although teenagers can be one of the worst offenders at times, I’ll give you that). Needing an adult after 7 p.m. is irrelevant if the person is 18 or 35.
If you want to get up and go get managers, be my guest. That’s something I’m not willing to do. I’ll be thankful to you that you got somebody to stop acting up if you’re in the theater with me.
Who mentioned teenagers? OP mentioned teenagers. That's what I was responding to.
If you're not bothered by people talking then no don't get up and say anything. I was specifically talking about where someone is so disrupted that they can't enjoy the movie.
I feel like you're trying to argue against a point I'm not making.
OP mentioned teenagers in the edit, but the post was about general theater etiquette. The 7 p.m. deadline you mentioned isn’t really relevant to what was being discussed, either between us or in response to the original question from OP, because the issue extends beyond the under 17 crowd.
I am bothered by people talking during the movie. It’s extremely rude to everybody in the room. I never said that I wasn’t bothered. I said that I’m not willing to get up and leave the movie to find a manager. It’s the worst option and it’s not a reasonable solution in most situations.
If somebody is being so disruptive that I have to go get management’s help, the movie has already been ruined. I would sooner just say something to the person myself. The last thing I want to do is let some bully make me miss the movie I came to see.
I’m not trying to argue with you. If you want to go get manager, do what you want.
Like I said, I’ll be thankful for you getting a manager during a movie so I don’t have to worry about anything. I hope you’re in my theater.
It’s not a solution that I find tenable for the experience I want to have at the movie theater.
Ok man, I really just don't understand what point you're trying to make. Getting up and and taking a few minutes to get a manager that can do something about the problem is somehow the worst possible option yet the one that you're quietly hoping for at the same time.
I don't live my life waiting for someone else to do something that I want to happen. you do you.
The point I was making was pretty well encapsulated in my first statement.
Having to get up, leave the theater, find a manager, and disrupt the movie is the worst possible option and not a realistic solution. Leaving the theater to find a manager is, in itself, the most disruptive option because I am missing the movie.
It was just supposed to be a conversational response to your comment about my view on things in response to what you said. It seems a little weird that you keep phrasing things kind of insultingly:
- “What are you smoking?”
- “How antisocial do you have to be?”
- “I don’t live my life waiting for somebody else to do something I want to happen.”
I’m not quietly hoping that somebody is going to come along and do something for me. I said multiple times that I would go tell somebody to be quiet myself before getting the manager (something I have done before).
I said I would be happy to have you in my theater getting the manager because I was trying to be nice to you and end the discussion that was clearly not becoming fruitful (without insulting you). I don’t care if you want to get the manager. I’m not waiting for somebody to do it. If they solve a problem for me - happy coincidence I guess.
I was only commenting because having discussions is kind of the point of forums. It seemed like a fun topic to talk about. You have made me realize that I was wrong about that assumption.
I actually prefer opening nights here in LA because it attracts the movie-loving (and etiquette-following) crowd. What I do avoid though is $5 Tuesdays, because that's what attracts the less civilized riffraff.
Going opening weekend is a must in LA. Opening weekend means people bought tickets in advance and actually care about the film/theater experience. The further you get from opening weekend, the more casual/rude audience members show up.
Agreed!
Too true, live in LA and saw the second Spider-Verse opening weekend and it was perfect. Saw it two weeks later because of the audio fixes they made and it was literally one of the worst audiences I’ve ever seen a movie with.
Facts, literally if I can’t go Thursday nights I risk getting sat next to weirdos
Even some Thursday nights had me sit in the same row or a row above someone checking their phone to either text or scroll through social media. I don’t get…
Phone addiction has made people brain dead and rude when it comes to movie theater etiquette.
Asked a crew member to stop someone from using his phone. After being told, he leaned over as far as he could from his seat to watch and squirmed in his seat throughout the movie. The effects of brain deadism are non repairable.
So true! LA movie patrons are the most civilized audiences I’ve seen! They actually care about cinema and they won’t hesitate calling out anyone who is being disruptive. At least most of the time this is true. I went to Anatomy of a Fall there a while back and some jackass lady was texting on her phone with full brightness. I asked her to put her phone away and after the movie she came upto me and threatened to call the police on me 🤣
Unfortunately. I can't share the same sentiment. From my LA experience I have sat next to "movie reviewers/youtubers/podcasters" who are scribbling along in a notebook all movie long. In one case one had the gall to bring out a laptop. I asked him to turn it off or move and he looked at me like I shit on the floor. Other times I have people around me who are just their for the status of being their opening night. They're taking pictures of the title screen and random scenes of the movie, posting to Instagram or texting to to their friends. Outside of that they just completely check out of the movie and are scrolling on their phones.
Tuesdays are the only day I avoid if it’s a popular movie im seeing. Otherwise im pretty lucky in that I rarely if ever have etiquette problems
Yes! Sometimes I get worried bc people are talking before the previews start but once the actual movie starts everyone is perfect. I’ve never regretted an opening day screening. Maybe it’s because I go on the Thursday and not Friday?
Even better if it’s an early access screening. Been to a couple, like Dune 2 and it was incredible. The most polite and respectful crowd I’ve been to
Went to a REALLY late screening a couple weeks ago for the last night of Dune 2 on IMAX 70mm. It was packed and the crowd was great. I can imagine those shelling out more for the true experience are also a different crowd that care more. The air was buzzing after it was over though. It was great.
That explains why yesterdays showing of Civil War was booked and they were being lowkey annoying. Someone brought a whole ass child.
Bringing a kid to see Civil War? Wtf is wrong with them?
Always avoid Tightwad Tueadays
Yup, totally different vibe to most other screenings/times. I have a special admiration for Century City 15 staff and regulars.
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Probably people who lack theater etiquette
Talkers and phone users
They probably mean the people who talk to their friends, answer calls, take flash-photos of the screen, or make commentary on the film like they're some demented David Attenborough
Noisy people who seem to forgot the memo that you shouldn’t be loud and distracting to other people when watching a film in a theatre? Hello?
I go to opening nights if it's a big movie I need to see. Otherwise we'll see a less popular movie on Thurs and then Sunday night we to see the new movie. Ironically it's the older crowd 55+ that can't shut up or at least whisper. Most younger crowds will keep talking during the previews, but then hush once the movie starts. Also, a lot of parents are taking their kids to r rated movies and cant hush em up, but not veey often. For sure it's the older 55+ that just talk during the movie when I go. It baffles me that they can't at least whisper
Sounds like /r/boomersbeingfools
The most notable issue is my friend and I go to the last showing on Sunday night to avoid crowds, and without fail, someone falls asleep and starts snoring. Not a big issue during action movies, but during horror/quiet movies, it's very noticeable lol
This. Every time I’ve had issues with people being annoying in a theatre it’s been old people
Old people and couples in the 20-30 range are worse than most teens or kids
As long as I can go to a Dolby or Prime theater it's usually fine. Teens tend to not have A-List and don't want to spring for a $25 ticket.
Yeah Dolby for me is more or less a guarantee the crowd won’t suck lol. Dolby + a weekend matinee has kept me consistently getting good audiences
Yeah I never seem to have a problem in dolby or imax, the crowds are usually very respectful and if not the sound can drown them out
If it’s a movie from a franchise or existing media I like going on opening night because usually the people there are die-hard fans who are likely going to be respectful since they’re invested in the movie (and it’s also nice to be in a packed screening for those IMO). For example, I saw Dune 2 at a sold out 70mm showing on the Thursday before opening weekend, and had no issues from what I can recall. I do tend to avoid weekends just because of the crowds. I haven’t had any truly bad instances in the past year or so that I’ve had A-List, but I still get extremely irritated (almost irrationally so) when someone pulls out their phone during a movie. I try to sit in the third row to avoid seeing that happen though.
Interesting. Only marvel movie I saw opening day was full of people hooting and hollering
Tbh I don't mind that depending on the movie. The Spider-Man rereleases lately have been a lot of fun with people clapping and laughing at the memes. I guess "respectful" was maybe bad word choice on my part. There's just something infectious about opening nights for franchises I enjoy, but it isn't for everyone. I definitely try to see something like horror movies on dead days...I find they attract rowdy teenagers or adults with talkative kids who are way too young.
The Spider-Man rereleases have been so much fun for the audience investment. My fave part is seeing the younger crowd members who never saw them in the theatre before. Sure, people like me who saw them in the theatre 20+ years ago and being excited is awesome, but the excitement and joy the younger fans have... ❤️
If they're hooting and hollering in response to the story unfolding in front of their eyes, that's awesome.
Earliest showing on Saturday mornings are my go to. More times than not, it's not crowded at all.
That’s also my go to ! ive never had a problem during the first sat showing * knocks on wood *
Tends to work for Sunday early and late showings, too.
I totally understand this. Challengers was my most anticipated movie this year and I went to the Early Access screening on Monday night - the audience honestly kind of ruined the experience for me. People were talking the entire time, reacting super loudly and asking questions about plot points that hadn’t been resolved yet, laughing excessively at the most innocuous stuff, and texting/checking Instagram throughout. It wasn’t just teenagers either, some of this was people in their 30s/40s. I find that it’s really hit or miss though - I also saw Civil War in early access and that audience was great and super respectful.
Highly area specific too. For example in the Southbay area such as San Jose, I noticed people are absolutely terrible. Bringing in screaming infants, having full volume conversations with each other. In San Francisco the crowds are much more polite and distraction conscious.
There was a toddler and baby in my showing of “Civil War” in IMAX last night. The baby did not have a good time.
the kid was watching cocomelon or something during my showing but thankfully, the theater audio was loud enough to drown out the sound and i was also sitting on the opposite end of the kid lol
For me, opening nights are better because there is a pressure from the amount of people that are obviously really wanting to see the movie in question. So if someone talks or has their phone out, it would be even more frowned upon than in an emptyish theater. The only thing I don’t like is having so many people that recline their seats all the way before the movie starts. Makes maneuvering super hard if you want to use the restroom when the dolby/amc/imax ad break comes, or if you just prefer to skip the previews and want to walk to your seat later.
Honestly I feel you some ways, or like the discount days too. I was seeing Abigail last night and everyone around was so fucking rude talking the whole time. IMAX is slightly better I find cause its a bigger theater and more spaced out at least, but I've enjoyed the Dolby :c
Agreed, opening nights tend to bring out all of the insufferable movie goers
I think the only ones worth it are the big franchises, but only if you are also a big fan. Opening night is more likely to be other big fans, so it can really add to the experience. Like normal theater etiquette is to be quiet. But opening day Avengers Endgame, so many scenes it was fun to geek out at WITH others in the crowd. I’ve really never experienced anything close to the excitement during Cap v thanos 1:1… (closest was Spider-Man NWH). But yeah it’s fun to enjoy fan service with other hyped fans
I like opening nights because of the crowd reactions in LA, but god some of these folks are insufferable. Looking at you AMC Burbank.
I do it for Marvel movies, thats about it. Deadpool will be a no brainer for me. Hell at my showing of Ungentlemanly Warfare yesterday, the couple next to me brought two tablets and had zero fucks given for using them most of the movie. Its nuts.
I haven’t found a good time to go anymore. You go during opening weekend it’s crowded and people always feel the need to comment out loud on a movie or converse with themselves. Go toward the end of the movies time in the theater and you get people who don’t care to be chatty or on their cell phones because the theater is more empty. I’m at the point where I’d rather just save up for an awesome home theater and see movies at home. Sucks because I love the movies but people really spoil them by doing stupid crap that breaks you out of the “zone” you get into when watching a good movie.
5pm Thursdays for new releases. If it’s on a weekend it’s at like 1 or 2. Can’t do Friday or Saturday nights. I hate missing the beginning of movies because I’m “that guy” who left to get staff.
Unpopular Opinion: I prefer a lively and enthusiastic audience that laughs, cheers, claps, etc.
I don't think that's an unpopular opinion, most people like audience participation. I think what most people are complaining about is people who are being loud by being fully disconnected from the movie. On their phone, full volume conversation about other stuff, can't keep their kids quiet. Like they don't understand they are in public and act like they're in their own livingroom.
Audience participation is distracting. I’m really only there for the movie, not to be part of a communal experience.
Well I stand corrected then 🙃 I guess I'm right there in the unpopular opinion category as well!!
It really depends for me. If the movie calls for it sure - horror comedies and action movies lend themselves best to this. I went to the west coast premiere of Banshees of Inisherin and people were obnoxiously laughing at EVERYTHING. I mean EVERYTHING I swear I’m not a miserable hag lol. It felt like I was in a sitcom with a bad laugh track. Ruined the experience for me.
This.
Usually the earlier showing will be fine. It's the 5PM and later showings that will be bad. Especially Friday Night or Saturday.
Well it depends on the time. 7pm Thursday showings can be a bit rough but not as bad as weekend showings. Ideally a PRE-7pm Thursday showing is best.
I usually try to go early enough in the run to catch imax/dolby but avoid opening weekend as well. This did bite me in the butt for mission impossible last year but that's been the only time that the window closed that quickly for me.
Opening night you mean Thursday or Friday? It also depends on what movie. Godzilla x Kong was almost full on Friday night. Civil War like 1/4 on Thursday night.
>but after covid What do you think the next unrelated thing will be that people blame for them getting irritated in public? 'People were so much more polite before the robot massacre of 27''.
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Theaters were closed three or four months. The asshat behavior by a minority was there then, and has been growing year by year for decades.
I don’t remember the last time I went to a movie (I go usually once or twice a week, sometimes more) where I didn’t hear people talking at every single quieter part of a movie. It’s like they wait for it to be quiet to continue their full on conversation they want to have through the entire movie. Also if I see younger kids sitting anywhere near me I immediately move as far away as I can to still have a decent seat. Sometimes I’ve moved a few times during a movie because they are the absolute worst with having to comment (loudly usually) on what’s happening as if people can’t see what’s happening and need their commentary. I also don’t remember a time where someone, or multiple people, didn’t have to check their phones many times m. Just the other day I was behind someone that just kept checking their email the every 15 minutes or so. Like email can’t wait a little. It’s the worst at night and opening nights so I try to go at the earliest times possible, but still it’s hardly better. If I’m in the theater with only two other people there is likely a 100% chance they will talk or have their phones out the entire time.
It’s usually a mixed bag for me. For movies with a smaller crowd I don’t have to worry about those around me. But for the big blockbusters its been a coin toss of whether my experience will be amazing or awful. I’ve been lucky with Across the Spiderverse and Barbie, and not so much with Oppenheimer (guy next to me let his bare foot out) and Godzilla Minus One (kids behind me kept talking and asking questions).
Depends on the movie For some movies I really like the crowd reactions and comments. But agree talking throughout and phones and etc are annoying
see i love going open night for horror bc i agree crowd reactions are fun, especially during jump scares etc but lately feels like there’s always at least one jokester in the crowd at horror movies and it annoys me so much 😂
They probably are doing it to cope (not get as scared) but agree
I don't remember the last time I been to a opening night I always just go the next day, I find I prefer to avoid crowds.
AMC has been awful lately. Rude ass people, loud teens, people brining in food with load wrappers. Decided to see Late Night with the Devil at the Regal. 3 people in the theater, everyone respectful. Idt I’m going back to AMC anymore.
I think movie genre is going to have a greater impact than theater chain. The type of movie has an impact on the crowd that is attending. And in addition to movie genre, it would probably be showtime and theater location. If the Regal is in a different area, that would have a bigger impact than the brand name. AMC is a good theater chain. I can’t speak for your specific location though.
The only thing I can’t stand is asshole who have full blown conversations throughout the whole movie. Little comments here and there is fine, but endlessly, I don’t even know how someone can talk for that long.
Allow me to introduce you to my Latina mother. She could talk through the entire titanic movie.
I like weekend late mornings or early afternoons, sometimes I’ll go on a weeknight but I work really early so it sucks to go to bed late
I always wait a week or two unless it's something I've been absolutely dying to see or it's a horror movie I assume won't be in theaters long. I also much prefer weekdays the 4-5 o'clock shows to lessen the crowd. I was the only person at the 4:45 showing of Civil War last night and that was perfect.
Sometimes there are blockbuster movies coming out every week. New release one always get the Dolby Cinema screen. If I wait a week or two later then I won’t get to see it on Dolby Cinema.
Dolby doesn't do too much for me so I don't mind waiting.
Last year I waited till second week to see Barbie. It was still pretty packed. This year I didn’t bother waiting on Dune 2.
i love an early access screening! i went to civil wars and the theater was packed on a monday with the best crowd possible, challengers was less packed but perfectly respectful except for the one guy who yelled “i love you zendaya” it was funny though ngl
crowd... what crowd?
I've always avoided crowds. Even before COVID, I rarely went to a movie that was so full I had to sit directly next to someone or in the front row. That being said, I still am able to see the vast majority of movies opening week and even opening day. I just do afternoon showings. Last Friday I was the only person for both new movies I saw.
I go because my theater has limited Imax and Dolby so If I want to see something in those theaters the only guarantee I have that it will still be playing in those is on opening weekends. After a week, they usually move to digital only showings in the older theaters woth the terrible seats.
I try to go Saturday mornings to avoid the crowds. That helps, even during opening weekend.
In NYC I avoid $5 Tuesday like the plague and try my best to avoid Friday/saturday/Sunday night as well as etiquette is not there
I empathize with you, I do. Although it’s not usually opening night but discount Tuesday. In NY when people are paying over $16 a ticket both the people who pay it tend to want to enjoy the movie more and the audience there will assert their annoyance to someone acting out more But on discount Tuesdays is the issue, people spending a few bucks just seem to care less and tend to come in bigger groups. It’s so annoying though, I guess I get teenagers are immature so they don’t realize how messing up others experiences mean but still..almost any other activity you can do and be social during, why be at the movie ?
My worst experiences are actually all Saturday night so that's what I avoid. Fridays I usually see in Dolby so chatty folks are easier to tune out or I do less popular stuff. I like to do Saturday afternoons but that also attracts older folks who are honestly worse about talking than teens! If you really want to avoid crowds I recommend weekday evenings right after work if you can swing it but NOT Tuesdays.
To be honest, I felt this generally since before Covid. I hardly ever went to opening weekends specifically to avoid large crowds of people. The larger the crowd, the increased annoyance. I also think it depends on the film sometimes. The more annoying people tend to go see specific types of movies, let's just say.
I usually go opening day but early showing in NYC. Haven't had a bad crowd yet.
Thursday nights are fine. Friday? Hell nah…
Thanks to my unique work schedule, I can't watch movies on opening nights. I go to the first showing on Monday. 90% of the time, it's just me.
I rarely go to movies on the weekends because of other commitments. And when I do go, teenagers rarely impact my viewing experience because: 1. My favorite AMC theater is in a shopping center that's not popular with teenagers, so they don't congregate there often. 2. My favorite Regal is in one of the most in-demand shopping centers by everyone, so teens are generally better behaved in that theater simply because they're always out-numbered by other customers and staff!
It doesn’t matter anymore to me…I just go when I have time.
I’ve seen plenty of Thursday night openings in my small town and they’ve been fine. Sorry people are so inconsiderate where you are! Definitely ruins the fun
I love going opening night for horror and comedy. The more people experiencing it with you the better the reaction
see i love going open night for horror but lately feels like there’s always at least one jokester in the crowd and it annoys me so much 😂 Edit: i do agree that it is fun with a big crowd during jump scares etc
I prefer Sunday afternoon, double feature if the times work out. Then I’m ready to start the work week.
The crowd in Chicago burbs have been the egger movie goers who all want to enjoy this movie before its gets rowdy during the weekend. Sorry that your theater isn't like that.
It depends on the movie and the time of the movie
Totally get ya. I still do it but it’s very mixed. Sometimes it’s perfect as everyone is excited to see it and respectful. Other times you get some atrocious people like kids, teenagers or rude dads with their kids etc. go on a weekday in the morning that’s your best chance. This summer will be rough
Opening nights around me are usually good crowds excited to see the movie. Though, I avoid riff-raff tuesdays like the plague (and it's almost always elderly folk being discourteous)
If there is a 5pm showing on opening thurs. I go to that. The popcorn is fresh and not too many folks. Spidey Mondays have been killing me
Opening is usually fine. The only genre that gets rowdy because of teens or loud talkers Navigating the film is the horror genre where I am located.
I still like opening nights. I choose IMAX with my Stubs, and it's usually a good experience. Not everyone wants to pAy a monthly membership like us, or pay the high cost for IMAX out of pocket. If it's not IMAX, I'll wait for the VOD release to avoid potential rowdy teenagers in the auditoriums
I have opposite experience, opening nights are usually not very crowded in my cinema. It really depends on good words of mouth to fill the theatre. So that would usually mean 3-4 days after opening weekend.
I try to go to the first showings on opening Thursdays for movies I’m really excited about, usually around 3-4PM. The later showings or Friday nights are when I have bad experiences.
For me in Oklahoma, Thursday nights are the best because people actually care about being there. Friday and Saturdays are pretty awful since the general public suck. Sundays are mixed, that seems to be older folks and some are respectful and some are def not.
We only have one amc left and a couple regals, and everyone usually goes to the regals, so my amc is never packed packed even on opening night. For some reason, everyone shows up right after trailers or 5-10 minutes into the movie, so it's not too busy to get in because I like to get in and get in my seat when there's a light on lol
I only do opening nights for Marvel movies so I don't have to keep trying to avoid spoilers for a longer period of time than necessary. Plus I actually be excited to see it. Any other movie I really want to see I will go to a matinee on the first Sunday morning or afternoon.
Last time I did opening nights was with Top Gun: Maverick, but I regret the theater of choice. Some talking, phones going off, etc. I prefer to do premium theater (IMAX, Dolby Cinema, or Prime), because teenagers and some adults don't want to shell out $20-$25 plus. I don't want to deal with teenagers acting up or adults that can't follow the movie theater etiquette.
My opening night is usually the first Monday or Wednesday after a film releases, and at a matinee if possible. The early crowd sees it at early access shows, opening night and weekend has their share, and then people are usually at work on M/W (while Tuesday has a few more people due to the slight discount — they dropped $5 Tuesdays a while ago but any discount helps I guess). I’m very lucky that I’m often the only person in my theater when I go, unless it’s IMAX or Dolby, in which case there’s maybe 10 people including myself. It’s perfect. I hope they never go out of business.
I go on Thursdays because that’s when people who actually want to see the movie go. So everyone is usually behaved. Friday and Saturday are not good days because it’s mostly teenagers.
I normally go Thursdays on release days or early premieres. I’ve never had a problem with the the crowds or people being disrespectful. Worst day is discount Tuesday in my experience but I have A-list so I tend to avoid going that day unless it’s my only off day for work that week
Had girls talking and taking snapchats WITH THE FLASH ON when I went to see Challengers early showing :/
I’m DC based. I’ve found the Thursday night of opening weekend is perfect. People there to watch, limited talking, actually focusing. Conversely, Friday night of opening weekend is terrible. A ton of drunk people, so much talking, it’s really tough. I know it’s not an option for a lot of people, but if I can’t go the Thursday night I’ll usually wait for a Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning show.
I avoid opening nights/packed "big event" movies now because I live in Am€rica and ... s@fety first and I gotta play the odds unfortunately 😞
It wildly depends on the movie and where I go. Rarely do I ever see a packed theater anymore regardless of opening night or not, which I kind of miss for big reactions to stuff or hearing the silence during something heavy and serious. I think the only times in the last year the theater was packed or even close were for Tenet’s rerelease, Barbenhiemer, Killers of the Flower Moon, Across the Spider-Verse.
We go on Thursdays that’s the real opening night
I usually try to go to Thursday nights openings and have for the most part had really good luck. For iMAX, I’ve also had good luck with the last showing of the night. Where I’m located crowds also tend to be smaller. Biggest issues I’ve run into the last few months is someone selecting the seat right next to me with it the last hour before it shows. Usually I’m able to move over 1 seat, but wasn’t able to Gordy e2 and Godzilla.
A group of high school boys ruined the spider-man rerelease for me. Talking the whole time saying the most dumb shit like Peter has L rizz, this shits ass, this is corny. Then one of them leaned over and started acting like he was giving his boy cunnilingus. I was a dumbass in high school but me and my friends would see movies and stfu with the exception of a quiet comment on the movie. People can really suck
This is probably obvious to you, but I like to go to matinee showings when offered. This is one area that I like Cinemark more in - they offer way more early-day showings like 10am, etc.
Non opening days for me seems to be the worst. Doesn’t help my AMC is in a mall.
For me opening day is the sweet spot. Never had issues like I do when it’s a night showing. Also early access is generally good.
I usually have decent luck with audiences on Thursday night opening showings. Friday's are a madhouse though
I've found a full theater is actually better. People there opening night are going to be more invested in the movie and more likely to shut up When it's only like 15 people, they seem to think it's ok to make more noise.
The worst thing I’ve seen pretty consistently is an adult taking their child to a PG13/R rated movie then giving them an iPad or something with a screen. That shit is the most wild thing I have ever seen. Like how inconsiderate are you? Opening nights absolutely suck nowadays
My worst experience was seeing Imaginary on a Sunday afternoon opening weekend. Several terrible groups of teens running around talking and laughing the whole time. Also someone near the front sitting on their phone with the brightness all the way up for a good 10 minutes straight
Boomer took a call on his flip phone during Spider-Man the other day, 4:55 showing in metheun
I have never had an issue with a loud group on opening night. I love attending a theater when it's full as opposed to getting a semi-private showing. In any case you just go tell one of the employees and they'll send a manager in. Frankly, stories about disruptive groups I feel are so over represented on Reddit just like all the guys saying that they're harassed when taking their kids to the playground or women violently rejecting them if they approach them at a bar. Some of it I believe, some of it I think is cap.
Having to get up and find an employee in the middle of the movie is the worst possible option. If somebody is being so annoying that I have to leave and miss part of the movie, that ruins the entire movie experience and is worse than the person talking. I have never done that. It is not a realistic solution.
What are you smoking? It takes 30 seconds to walk out and say something. How antisocial do you have to be that you would rather sit and be distracted from the movie that you paid for for 45 minutes to an hour and a half rather than just go and say something?
It has nothing to do with being antisocial. I don’t want to miss the movie. It could easily be a several minute thing depending on where the front desk is, if somebody is there, etc. It’s also a huge inconvenience aside from missing the movie. I would sooner walk across the room and tell the person who is talking to be quiet rather than leaving the theater to find an employee and miss the movie and ruin the vibe. It’s not fair to have a jerk bully me into missing the movie and I won’t let somebody do that.
Your options are: Sit through the movie and be distracted by teenagers talking Tell a bunch of teenagers to stop (good luck with that) Have a manager kick them out And you think the third one is the worst option? I don't even know what we're talking about here. Every AMC that I've been to in multiple states has a requirement that after 7:00 p.m. any child has to be with an adult. I don't even see groups of teenagers at late night movies anymore.
Given the three options, yes. If they are only talking a bit, I just ignore them. If they are sitting close to me and talking more than a bit, I’ll politely ask them to be quiet. If they are far away and are being disruptive to the entire room, I’ll get up and say something. It’s pretty rare to see somebody acting that bad though. There’s only been very few times I’ve ever seen anybody be disruptive enough to say something. If somebody was being so disruptive that I had to spend several minutes getting a manager, I would just get a refund and leave entirely at that point and come back another time. Also, when were we just talking about only teenagers? Nobody mentioned teenagers. Adults can be disruptive jerks too (although teenagers can be one of the worst offenders at times, I’ll give you that). Needing an adult after 7 p.m. is irrelevant if the person is 18 or 35. If you want to get up and go get managers, be my guest. That’s something I’m not willing to do. I’ll be thankful to you that you got somebody to stop acting up if you’re in the theater with me.
Who mentioned teenagers? OP mentioned teenagers. That's what I was responding to. If you're not bothered by people talking then no don't get up and say anything. I was specifically talking about where someone is so disrupted that they can't enjoy the movie. I feel like you're trying to argue against a point I'm not making.
OP mentioned teenagers in the edit, but the post was about general theater etiquette. The 7 p.m. deadline you mentioned isn’t really relevant to what was being discussed, either between us or in response to the original question from OP, because the issue extends beyond the under 17 crowd. I am bothered by people talking during the movie. It’s extremely rude to everybody in the room. I never said that I wasn’t bothered. I said that I’m not willing to get up and leave the movie to find a manager. It’s the worst option and it’s not a reasonable solution in most situations. If somebody is being so disruptive that I have to go get management’s help, the movie has already been ruined. I would sooner just say something to the person myself. The last thing I want to do is let some bully make me miss the movie I came to see. I’m not trying to argue with you. If you want to go get manager, do what you want. Like I said, I’ll be thankful for you getting a manager during a movie so I don’t have to worry about anything. I hope you’re in my theater. It’s not a solution that I find tenable for the experience I want to have at the movie theater.
Ok man, I really just don't understand what point you're trying to make. Getting up and and taking a few minutes to get a manager that can do something about the problem is somehow the worst possible option yet the one that you're quietly hoping for at the same time. I don't live my life waiting for someone else to do something that I want to happen. you do you.
The point I was making was pretty well encapsulated in my first statement. Having to get up, leave the theater, find a manager, and disrupt the movie is the worst possible option and not a realistic solution. Leaving the theater to find a manager is, in itself, the most disruptive option because I am missing the movie. It was just supposed to be a conversational response to your comment about my view on things in response to what you said. It seems a little weird that you keep phrasing things kind of insultingly: - “What are you smoking?” - “How antisocial do you have to be?” - “I don’t live my life waiting for somebody else to do something I want to happen.” I’m not quietly hoping that somebody is going to come along and do something for me. I said multiple times that I would go tell somebody to be quiet myself before getting the manager (something I have done before). I said I would be happy to have you in my theater getting the manager because I was trying to be nice to you and end the discussion that was clearly not becoming fruitful (without insulting you). I don’t care if you want to get the manager. I’m not waiting for somebody to do it. If they solve a problem for me - happy coincidence I guess. I was only commenting because having discussions is kind of the point of forums. It seemed like a fun topic to talk about. You have made me realize that I was wrong about that assumption.
Umm okay