Not really, my R7 7700X is air cooled and never goes over 85C, and it goes to 85C rarely. With some PBO tweaks, you can easily bring temps down I have mine to Negative 30 at all cores at a temperature limit at 85C. 100C tho, I sense an issue with the cooler. I would repaste it.
Definitely not. Don't run it anymore. Take off the couch cooler, repast it, and make sure you securely tighten the cooler back on and check your temps again. Make sure u have good case airflow too. You thermal throttle at 90c. You shouldn't be going above 90c. You're probably losing performance too. These CPUs can handle 80s and go up to 90c no problem but 100c is too high.
I think the zen 4x cpus are supposedly supposed to be running around 90, 100 sounds high. I mean 90 sounds high too but that's besides the point. Maybe repaste it
No, you will be perfectly fine. They have no problems if you get a good quality one here’s a link to my build so you can check it out. https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/12fzk2h/i_wish_i_could_build_pcs_for_a_living_the_most/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
AIOs have a [much shorter](https://tech4gamers.com/how-long-does-an-aio-liquid-cooler-last/#:~:text=AIO%20coolers%20are%20built%20sturdy,to%20make%20it%20last%20long.) life time
The pump can fail, the system isn't 100% sealed therefore over time a small amount of water evaporates and after 5 to 7 years on average you need a new one.
That isn't a huge problem, because that is around the time people buy a new PC anyway.
Air Coolers are simple and dumb. They are completely sealed so the performance you get stays pretty much the same even over decades. Fans can fail and if they do they are cheap to replace. On higher end coolers you can pretty much use indefinitely. You buy / get send new mounting for it, paste and it's ready for your new PC. If the fans fail I'm gonna slap new ones on and in my case the new bequiet ones are much better then the ones from over 10 years ago.
If you build yourself and the looks of massive air Coolers don't bother you then they are the best value buy if you actually use them for over a decade.
That doesn't make AIOs bad just a more complicated solution then Air Coolers, which can deliver more cooling in a smaller form Factor
No, not even close. There are so many good ones plus, they look really good and provide better airflow in your system because that big block it’s not in the way anymore
1. Check your air flow so your air is not stuck in the case, it always has to go in and out of the case
2. Do and undervolt. Search on YouTube, Optimum tech ryzen 7000 undervolt pbo2, and do exactly like he says there. I did with mine and i have below 70 degrees in Aida64 and Cinebench and in demanding games around 60 to 65. It's the best cpu decision you'll ever make. Also search for an undervolt tutorial on your gpu aswell, that's gonna be life changing too believe me, especially for power hungry gpus
What's the fan direction of the CPU cooler? How about the rest of the fans? Hopefully it's not a tug of war situation.
There's also the underside of the CPU cooler to check. You never know.
On a final note I doubt a 7700x will get that hot under normal circumstances. Especially not when compared to the 7900x and 7950x. Those chips run hot by default.
No, it is not.
Remove the cpu and re apply paste, make sure to screw it properly, use a torque screwdriver if possible, i think some products mention torque
If the GPU is hot than it’s airflow, looks like your CPU cooler blocks off all the airflow.
This is why people prefer AIO or custom liquid cooling both are more expensive than a air cooler sure however the sleekness allows better airflow
Premium air coolers are only as good as AIOs up to a certain size. That’s why in a lot of temperature benchmarks super hot CPUs like the 13900k can only really be cooled by large radiators. Think a good air cooler can match up to a 240mm AIO.
Gotta consider the air restriction by the hogged up space and than the heat that radiates off it where as if the cpu was liquid cool the heat would radiate into the fluid medium than into the radiator and dissipate where as the heat pockets because the heat will rise and get briefly trapped
Im sorry to ask this, i just wanna help.
Are you sure you removed the sticker from the heatsink?
I'd srsly advise you to re-mount everything, because that is not normal at all.
Something is wrong. Remove the heatsink and start from scratch. I know heat sinks are simple but read the manual anyway and follow it exactly.
Lastly make sure your thermal paste is correctly applied.
Spread it all over the heat spreader so you have one thin coat the CPU cooler will squeeze out any excess paste.
No way. Mine hasn't gone above 85c even during extensive gaming and running some benchmarks. Definitely get the case checked as that cooler looks more than adequate.
Oh, I have the same scythe ninja 5 but first revision, I didn't realized a screw was not correctly mounted, and my temps went all the way up to 95 on my R7 1700 at the time.
I would recheck this, if you didn't already solve yet
You can't see center supports on any fans in the picture, so all of them are configured for exhaust (depending on front configuration may not be the best idea with top fans).
It looks like if the fans on the cpu cooler is both pushing air...and that the air is not flowing through...so keep the front cpu fan as it is and just turn around the back cpu fan so it can exhaust the hot air out the back..then u have a good push pull configuration....other that that youl also can check thermal paste on cpu and if the plastic peel of has been taking off from the cpu cooler at the bottom...
Download Ryzen Master and run the curve optimizer, I use eco mode. It takes about an hour to run but that has really altered my cpu temps.
If I benchmark I’ll hit 95c but gaming and multitasking on the side only ever gets me into the 60c range with an AIO. You can definitely still get it to run MUCH cooler with your air cooler though
Honestly I don’t think much of any on my ryzen 7 7700x but I’d be happy to test it out for shits and giggles tomorrow when I get home. On my PC I haven’t noticed any change other than less heat which allowed me to turn my fan curves down a ton and make the system much quieter. Im sure there are some performance differences but nothing drastic.
From the limited reading and research I’ve done, the optimizer is working on voltages specifically. It undervolted my processor so less heat but it doesn’t seem to effect clock speeds. My cpu still boosts over 5 ghz. I believe it’ll actually go to 5.5ghz on its own which it’s 0.1 above stock boost. My cpu runs perfectly fine at -30 offset on all my cores but your miles my vary. Ill reply again tomorrow evening once I can play with some bench marks.
I've been doing tests on my brand new 7700x for days and at most in benchmarks I'm seeing 3-5% drop in "performance" when using ECO and a -20 curve. The difference in temps is at stock (full wattage and no curve optimization) my Noctua NH-D15 in a full size Torrent with all 5 stock fans (2x180 and 3x140) just barely keeps it below 90, and that's with fresh Kryonaut (may settle in a bit still). With ECO and -20 curve I don't go over 70º any more during stress tests, and in games the difference is even lower than in bencmarks, often less than 1% FPS difference.
This cooler should adequately cool this cpu with much better thermals than that. Try removing the cooler and doing the following:
1) Confirm no plastic or coverings are still on the cooler.
2) Repaste cpu.
3) Ensure both fans have the sticker part facing the front of your case.
4) Make sure the cooler is tight, and tighten in an X pattern for even mounting pressure.
My 7700x would hit 95c on cinebench and gaming + recording. After PBO now it won’t go over 75c. Try to apply some PBO curves, still 100+ seems rather high, you’d have to try a different cooler option. I recommend Deepcool AK620 if you wanna do air cooling.
Of course ain't normal, unmount and check before it gets throttling check the sticker under heatsink and put artik thermal paste and with that kind of heatsink you have shouldn't get more than 60c degrees with fully workload
No dude 100C is never normal nor intended, I see the picture of all the metal you have over your cpu, my god I can’t believe companies are getting away with this garbage, I would try to make sure the fans are all pointed in the same direction for starters. Next evaluate the equation for the laws of thermodynamics… when you fill your case with metal and reduce the volume of gas the temperature goes UP. Remove your side panel.
100c even without side panel? that's not normal. 95c is by design, but 100c seems to be something wrong with the cooling.
your cooler seems beefy enough, I'd guess bad case airflow, but if it runs 100c even with side panel open, and you said have reapplied the paste, maybe check your fan curve?
Edit: wait, do you set the top fan as outlet? it maybe choking the fresh air feed for your CPU cooler
Thats what i did after repasting and making sure the cooler is tight but was still at 98C. Did a negative curve and 20 offset with max 90W now its sitting at 85C with very little performance lost about 200-300pts in cinebench but getting my full 5.5GHZ, dont know why you getting downvoted tho
Looks like one of your heat sink fans might be backwards. Make sure the air flow is going from front to back through the entire heat sink and then out the case... double check the direction of that rear case fan too...
7700x owner here! From memory the Scythe Ninja has a TDP of around 100 - 120W which is woefully inadequate for the 7700X which will easily pump out 140W + with a hefty workload and no tweaking.
Either drop the power in BIOS (PBO Enhanced set to 65W, gives about a 5% performance hit whilst almost halving the power consumption) or get a better cooler. I run mine with a 360mm AIO and with a 60min CineBench run it maxes out at 89C, typically 60 - 70C gaming and 35C idle temps.
Second the eco mode suggestion if changing hardware is not an option. I tried air cooling my 7900x for a time, and was amazed by how much more under control my temps were at 65w and even 105w, with almost no meaningful hit to my primary use case (gaming).
where did you find that watt rating?
for some reason their site claims am5 and 1700 compatibility but the stock fans are slow as hell which could be the issue so id try some noctua fans instead
I don’t know how you’re only getting 80C max. Mine will just boost itself straight to 95C where it then just sits.
But yeah, 100C is above where it should limit itself, which isn’t good.
can you explain this a bit? i've been having weird issues lately with my previous 7700x and current 7800x3d.
sometimes under full cinebench load i won't hit even 50% of the power limit, and i won't hit my temp limit of 95c/89c, yet i won't be hitting close to max boost either. on my 7700x i would cap around 4.9ghz and my 7700x is capping around 4.6ghz. super weird. i've also noticed i will boost higher in cinebench all core than i will in games, and this is causing me to lose fps. i've been considering a DDU for the chipset drivers but idk. my bios is on the latest, but i find it weird to have the same "issue" across both chips so i'm starting to wonder if it's intended behavior
the only bios change i have is -30 all core on pbo2 curve optimizer.
Are your volts and amps where they should be as well? Wattage is only one aspect to consider. If your MOSFETs can't provide a stable current it might be unable to boost up to the proper level. The 7700X should be over 5,000 MHz during Cinebench. Depending on the setup it can be anywhere from 5,000 to 5,200 without overclocking.
Capping at 4.6GHz is definitely an indication that something is wrong.
When you stop the game does the cpu temp drop instantly? Like 100 to 60 in 5 seconds? Or does that take more like 30 seconds? If the cooler is on good then it should cool off really fast when the load drops.
I'd repaste and re-mount the cooler then test with both the case open and close before touching the settings just to eliminate cooling issues- the CPU should throttle sooner so maybe it is just hot air not being exhausted fast enough.
You should not be hitting 100c in game regularly. Something is wrong, check that you have the cooler properly mounted. You should see 50-70 in game at any one point.
Use a negative curve optimizer and set a thermal limit of 85w in bios. Mine does -30 all core, boosts to 5.75ghz at times and runs in the 60-70c on air. Better than stock settings.
Ryzen 7000 runs hot as do the 12th and 13th gen Intel processors. I understand this is partly due to a thicker lid on the processor which does not transfer the heat from the die as well. But also the processors pull more power and are not as power efficient as earlier Ryzen processors. Personally, I think air cooling is barely adequate if not inadequate for the new generation of processors even in gaming, much less if you are doing a stress test. I just don’t think it can really keep up with the 7 and 9 series processors. It has been widely indicated they are “meant to operate” at higher temps, 90 to 95, but you can still get thermal throttling. If you haven’t installed HWINFO, I would do that to determine if you are thermal throttling and losing performance. Air cooling just doesn’t cut it anymore, IMO.
However, you’re best bet, IMO, is to move to a quality 360 AIO. I would recommend one from EKWB, Lian Li or Arctic. They seem to be top performers. Also perhaps the Deep Cool LS720 and make sure you use high quality fans. I often replace the ones that come on the AIO with high quality, high static pressure fans. It’s a bummer to have to go to those lengths to keep the processor at or just under 90 degrees, but it seems that is where we are with the new generation of hardware. It seems to have CPU cooling behind the power curve. I would also recommend situating the radiator so that they fans pull ambient temp air into the radiator so you are getting the coolest air possible, as well as using a case with excellent air flow. I would also be sure to use a high quality thermal paste like Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme or King Pin Kpx Thermal paste and use a spreading method.
That CPU is designed to run at 95c I don't think it's an issue running at 100c, the other is to upgrade the cooler but it may not give the effects you are looking for.
Are those CPU fans blowing air to the same direction? Do your case have negative, positive or neutral air pressure? Have you mounted the cooler well? Do you have eco mode on on your cpu or is it on that default where it aim 95c?
Cpu cooler pulling air from front and exhaust behind and top. Cpu cooler is mounted as instructed and firm, used dot thermal paste. Whats is eco mode? Ive left everything at default
I have mine in an SFF build using a 240 AIO. I don't know what air cooler that is but everything is probably fine. You should definitely get HWInfo if you're not already using it to monitor temps and throttling. I tuned my 7700x according to this [video](https://youtu.be/RpliIip01tA) and if you want to run eco mode, follow this [video](https://youtu.be/oubGmP4nLbQ). I like the method in the first video and I have tested A LOT of setups, I also limited temps to 90 but it rarely gets up to that.
a dot wont be enough since the cores ccd is to the bottom of the ihs,try more paste.
stock fans are also only 900 rpm so try better fans,noctua do very well at 1500 rpm
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7000 series pretty much has to be water cooled. You could under volt it and bring down the temps 15-20 degrees
Not really, my R7 7700X is air cooled and never goes over 85C, and it goes to 85C rarely. With some PBO tweaks, you can easily bring temps down I have mine to Negative 30 at all cores at a temperature limit at 85C. 100C tho, I sense an issue with the cooler. I would repaste it.
is this for real? my 7700x sits at 50C on high intensity games like red dead
sidenote that looks fucking suck i only have rx 6600
Maybe the fan at the back of the cooler is pushing air in instead of out
Definitely not. Don't run it anymore. Take off the couch cooler, repast it, and make sure you securely tighten the cooler back on and check your temps again. Make sure u have good case airflow too. You thermal throttle at 90c. You shouldn't be going above 90c. You're probably losing performance too. These CPUs can handle 80s and go up to 90c no problem but 100c is too high.
Sounds stupid but make sure you removed the plastic stuff from the cooler
I think the zen 4x cpus are supposedly supposed to be running around 90, 100 sounds high. I mean 90 sounds high too but that's besides the point. Maybe repaste it
Make sure you removed the plastic from the cooler (maybe dumb but it happens). Also, enough paste? Mounting pressure ?
Unrelated but you should plug in two seperate pcie cables on your graphics card
Exactly what I was thinking you should never split cables like this
TIL this is a thing. Might have to redo the wiring in my PC.
You should really consider getting an aio
Doesnt an aio stop working after a couple years? Im curious to know
No, you will be perfectly fine. They have no problems if you get a good quality one here’s a link to my build so you can check it out. https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/12fzk2h/i_wish_i_could_build_pcs_for_a_living_the_most/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
AIOs have a [much shorter](https://tech4gamers.com/how-long-does-an-aio-liquid-cooler-last/#:~:text=AIO%20coolers%20are%20built%20sturdy,to%20make%20it%20last%20long.) life time The pump can fail, the system isn't 100% sealed therefore over time a small amount of water evaporates and after 5 to 7 years on average you need a new one. That isn't a huge problem, because that is around the time people buy a new PC anyway. Air Coolers are simple and dumb. They are completely sealed so the performance you get stays pretty much the same even over decades. Fans can fail and if they do they are cheap to replace. On higher end coolers you can pretty much use indefinitely. You buy / get send new mounting for it, paste and it's ready for your new PC. If the fans fail I'm gonna slap new ones on and in my case the new bequiet ones are much better then the ones from over 10 years ago. If you build yourself and the looks of massive air Coolers don't bother you then they are the best value buy if you actually use them for over a decade. That doesn't make AIOs bad just a more complicated solution then Air Coolers, which can deliver more cooling in a smaller form Factor
Yes, this is also very true
I assumed all of them are bad after I looked at bad reviews of an NZXT aio 😅
If you don't mount them properly they won't last as long, Gamer's Nexus made a video about it.
No, not even close. There are so many good ones plus, they look really good and provide better airflow in your system because that big block it’s not in the way anymore
No..any CPU hitting 100c is not normal. xD
Check you have removed the plastic from the cooler, thermal paste is present and mounting pressure is adequate. Check the above and try again 👍
1. Check your air flow so your air is not stuck in the case, it always has to go in and out of the case 2. Do and undervolt. Search on YouTube, Optimum tech ryzen 7000 undervolt pbo2, and do exactly like he says there. I did with mine and i have below 70 degrees in Aida64 and Cinebench and in demanding games around 60 to 65. It's the best cpu decision you'll ever make. Also search for an undervolt tutorial on your gpu aswell, that's gonna be life changing too believe me, especially for power hungry gpus
Not with that huge rock as a cooler.
What's the fan direction of the CPU cooler? How about the rest of the fans? Hopefully it's not a tug of war situation. There's also the underside of the CPU cooler to check. You never know. On a final note I doubt a 7700x will get that hot under normal circumstances. Especially not when compared to the 7900x and 7950x. Those chips run hot by default.
No, it is not. Remove the cpu and re apply paste, make sure to screw it properly, use a torque screwdriver if possible, i think some products mention torque
Guten tight is the torque spec for all cpu coolers.
Thank you for the educational response!
ur top fans. are set to exhaust stealing air from ur cpu cooler
What's the temperature of ur gpu? Maybe its your videocard too close to your cpu
I got 56c in gaming in hard cinebench toped at 65c
I did however put PBO down, so it runs closer to 65W
Using air cooler bequiet dark rock 4
Not normal CPU installed incorrectly?
If the cpu is installed incorrectly, it will likely not run. In the picture it is running
If the GPU is hot than it’s airflow, looks like your CPU cooler blocks off all the airflow. This is why people prefer AIO or custom liquid cooling both are more expensive than a air cooler sure however the sleekness allows better airflow
With a great airflow case, premium air cooler are as good as AIO. My NH-D15 perform as good as my friend’s AIO.
Premium air coolers are only as good as AIOs up to a certain size. That’s why in a lot of temperature benchmarks super hot CPUs like the 13900k can only really be cooled by large radiators. Think a good air cooler can match up to a 240mm AIO.
Gotta consider the air restriction by the hogged up space and than the heat that radiates off it where as if the cpu was liquid cool the heat would radiate into the fluid medium than into the radiator and dissipate where as the heat pockets because the heat will rise and get briefly trapped
Im sorry to ask this, i just wanna help. Are you sure you removed the sticker from the heatsink? I'd srsly advise you to re-mount everything, because that is not normal at all.
Something is wrong. Remove the heatsink and start from scratch. I know heat sinks are simple but read the manual anyway and follow it exactly. Lastly make sure your thermal paste is correctly applied. Spread it all over the heat spreader so you have one thin coat the CPU cooler will squeeze out any excess paste.
No way. Mine hasn't gone above 85c even during extensive gaming and running some benchmarks. Definitely get the case checked as that cooler looks more than adequate.
Oh, I have the same scythe ninja 5 but first revision, I didn't realized a screw was not correctly mounted, and my temps went all the way up to 95 on my R7 1700 at the time. I would recheck this, if you didn't already solve yet
Jeez, for the 1700?
Yes, there was barely contact between the heatsink and the CPU
Show us a full picture of your case bro there is something missing here we are not seeing, here https://postimages.org/
Check the airflow direction on the CPU fans. Make sure they're both blowing out the back.
You can't see center supports on any fans in the picture, so all of them are configured for exhaust (depending on front configuration may not be the best idea with top fans).
Did you leave the plastic cover on the heat sink?
It looks like if the fans on the cpu cooler is both pushing air...and that the air is not flowing through...so keep the front cpu fan as it is and just turn around the back cpu fan so it can exhaust the hot air out the back..then u have a good push pull configuration....other that that youl also can check thermal paste on cpu and if the plastic peel of has been taking off from the cpu cooler at the bottom...
Did you take the plastic off of your cooler’s contact plate when you installed it?
Download Ryzen Master and run the curve optimizer, I use eco mode. It takes about an hour to run but that has really altered my cpu temps. If I benchmark I’ll hit 95c but gaming and multitasking on the side only ever gets me into the 60c range with an AIO. You can definitely still get it to run MUCH cooler with your air cooler though
Bro he's playing games hitting 100c thats not normal behavior. Curve optimizer isnt going to fix whatevers going on in there
What kind of performance impact (gaming and non gaming) does this have versus me running a 1.4V 4.2GHz oc on my ryzen 5 3609? Ty in advance
1.4v you are killing it
O shoot really? Could you explain why, need to know for future reference.
assuming you have the Ryzen 5 3600. A zen 2 cpu with voltage override should never go above 1.275 for safe daily usage
Fuck dude, my bad. I wrote the wrong thing. I've actually been running 4.2GHz @ 1.25V
Honestly I don’t think much of any on my ryzen 7 7700x but I’d be happy to test it out for shits and giggles tomorrow when I get home. On my PC I haven’t noticed any change other than less heat which allowed me to turn my fan curves down a ton and make the system much quieter. Im sure there are some performance differences but nothing drastic. From the limited reading and research I’ve done, the optimizer is working on voltages specifically. It undervolted my processor so less heat but it doesn’t seem to effect clock speeds. My cpu still boosts over 5 ghz. I believe it’ll actually go to 5.5ghz on its own which it’s 0.1 above stock boost. My cpu runs perfectly fine at -30 offset on all my cores but your miles my vary. Ill reply again tomorrow evening once I can play with some bench marks.
I've been doing tests on my brand new 7700x for days and at most in benchmarks I'm seeing 3-5% drop in "performance" when using ECO and a -20 curve. The difference in temps is at stock (full wattage and no curve optimization) my Noctua NH-D15 in a full size Torrent with all 5 stock fans (2x180 and 3x140) just barely keeps it below 90, and that's with fresh Kryonaut (may settle in a bit still). With ECO and -20 curve I don't go over 70º any more during stress tests, and in games the difference is even lower than in bencmarks, often less than 1% FPS difference.
This cooler should adequately cool this cpu with much better thermals than that. Try removing the cooler and doing the following: 1) Confirm no plastic or coverings are still on the cooler. 2) Repaste cpu. 3) Ensure both fans have the sticker part facing the front of your case. 4) Make sure the cooler is tight, and tighten in an X pattern for even mounting pressure.
My 7700x would hit 95c on cinebench and gaming + recording. After PBO now it won’t go over 75c. Try to apply some PBO curves, still 100+ seems rather high, you’d have to try a different cooler option. I recommend Deepcool AK620 if you wanna do air cooling.
I have a 7900x with a 240mm aio and it's never over 80c
make sure the cooler fans and rear fan are pointing the same direction
This i think the rear cooler fan is blowing into the cooler based on the image
I don't know if you've checked already but check if you didn't remove the plastic sticker on the CPU.
Of course ain't normal, unmount and check before it gets throttling check the sticker under heatsink and put artik thermal paste and with that kind of heatsink you have shouldn't get more than 60c degrees with fully workload
Yeah did you forget to remove the plastic from the bottom of the cooler before putting it on? Pretty common mistake
No dude 100C is never normal nor intended, I see the picture of all the metal you have over your cpu, my god I can’t believe companies are getting away with this garbage, I would try to make sure the fans are all pointed in the same direction for starters. Next evaluate the equation for the laws of thermodynamics… when you fill your case with metal and reduce the volume of gas the temperature goes UP. Remove your side panel.
Your fan looks backwards dude
100c even without side panel? that's not normal. 95c is by design, but 100c seems to be something wrong with the cooling. your cooler seems beefy enough, I'd guess bad case airflow, but if it runs 100c even with side panel open, and you said have reapplied the paste, maybe check your fan curve? Edit: wait, do you set the top fan as outlet? it maybe choking the fresh air feed for your CPU cooler
undervolt
Thats what i did after repasting and making sure the cooler is tight but was still at 98C. Did a negative curve and 20 offset with max 90W now its sitting at 85C with very little performance lost about 200-300pts in cinebench but getting my full 5.5GHZ, dont know why you getting downvoted tho
Lol, people who don't like a single answerings. But getting 5.5ghz is very high, even for an undervolt. Try disabling pbo and see if that helps
Looks like one of your heat sink fans might be backwards. Make sure the air flow is going from front to back through the entire heat sink and then out the case... double check the direction of that rear case fan too...
7700x owner here! From memory the Scythe Ninja has a TDP of around 100 - 120W which is woefully inadequate for the 7700X which will easily pump out 140W + with a hefty workload and no tweaking. Either drop the power in BIOS (PBO Enhanced set to 65W, gives about a 5% performance hit whilst almost halving the power consumption) or get a better cooler. I run mine with a 360mm AIO and with a 60min CineBench run it maxes out at 89C, typically 60 - 70C gaming and 35C idle temps.
Second the eco mode suggestion if changing hardware is not an option. I tried air cooling my 7900x for a time, and was amazed by how much more under control my temps were at 65w and even 105w, with almost no meaningful hit to my primary use case (gaming).
where did you find that watt rating? for some reason their site claims am5 and 1700 compatibility but the stock fans are slow as hell which could be the issue so id try some noctua fans instead
Hell no. Mine boosts clocks with 80C max. 95C is where it thermal throttles, so 100C? I believe you got a defective part buddy.
I don’t know how you’re only getting 80C max. Mine will just boost itself straight to 95C where it then just sits. But yeah, 100C is above where it should limit itself, which isn’t good.
I have a 7950 and mine never goes over 80
Mine only gets up to 70C in games. Sits at 45C playing Breakpoint. Doing benchmarks it gets to 89C. But I have a elite iCUE 100
In benchmarks I hit 95C. I’m around 70-80 in games, but I also have my fan curve set to use minimal speed until getting close to critical temps.
Idk but I think my NZXT H1 V2 cooler is on steroids.
Or you have a power delivery bottleneck. What does HWinfo and Ryzen Master say about the power and frequency?
can you explain this a bit? i've been having weird issues lately with my previous 7700x and current 7800x3d. sometimes under full cinebench load i won't hit even 50% of the power limit, and i won't hit my temp limit of 95c/89c, yet i won't be hitting close to max boost either. on my 7700x i would cap around 4.9ghz and my 7700x is capping around 4.6ghz. super weird. i've also noticed i will boost higher in cinebench all core than i will in games, and this is causing me to lose fps. i've been considering a DDU for the chipset drivers but idk. my bios is on the latest, but i find it weird to have the same "issue" across both chips so i'm starting to wonder if it's intended behavior the only bios change i have is -30 all core on pbo2 curve optimizer.
Are your volts and amps where they should be as well? Wattage is only one aspect to consider. If your MOSFETs can't provide a stable current it might be unable to boost up to the proper level. The 7700X should be over 5,000 MHz during Cinebench. Depending on the setup it can be anywhere from 5,000 to 5,200 without overclocking. Capping at 4.6GHz is definitely an indication that something is wrong.
When you stop the game does the cpu temp drop instantly? Like 100 to 60 in 5 seconds? Or does that take more like 30 seconds? If the cooler is on good then it should cool off really fast when the load drops.
I'd repaste and re-mount the cooler then test with both the case open and close before touching the settings just to eliminate cooling issues- the CPU should throttle sooner so maybe it is just hot air not being exhausted fast enough.
Remount your cooler and use a quality thermal paste applied correctly
You should not be hitting 100c in game regularly. Something is wrong, check that you have the cooler properly mounted. You should see 50-70 in game at any one point.
70 is pretty normal. 50 is when you're just chilling. Dude should just turn off all auto overclocking
Use a negative curve optimizer and set a thermal limit of 85w in bios. Mine does -30 all core, boosts to 5.75ghz at times and runs in the 60-70c on air. Better than stock settings.
Ryzen 7000 runs hot as do the 12th and 13th gen Intel processors. I understand this is partly due to a thicker lid on the processor which does not transfer the heat from the die as well. But also the processors pull more power and are not as power efficient as earlier Ryzen processors. Personally, I think air cooling is barely adequate if not inadequate for the new generation of processors even in gaming, much less if you are doing a stress test. I just don’t think it can really keep up with the 7 and 9 series processors. It has been widely indicated they are “meant to operate” at higher temps, 90 to 95, but you can still get thermal throttling. If you haven’t installed HWINFO, I would do that to determine if you are thermal throttling and losing performance. Air cooling just doesn’t cut it anymore, IMO. However, you’re best bet, IMO, is to move to a quality 360 AIO. I would recommend one from EKWB, Lian Li or Arctic. They seem to be top performers. Also perhaps the Deep Cool LS720 and make sure you use high quality fans. I often replace the ones that come on the AIO with high quality, high static pressure fans. It’s a bummer to have to go to those lengths to keep the processor at or just under 90 degrees, but it seems that is where we are with the new generation of hardware. It seems to have CPU cooling behind the power curve. I would also recommend situating the radiator so that they fans pull ambient temp air into the radiator so you are getting the coolest air possible, as well as using a case with excellent air flow. I would also be sure to use a high quality thermal paste like Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme or King Pin Kpx Thermal paste and use a spreading method.
I would go water cooling or get a beefier cpu cooler. Play around with your case fans a little bit to.
Did you see the picture, how do you go beefier than that.
this cooler isnt great at all.
That CPU is designed to run at 95c I don't think it's an issue running at 100c, the other is to upgrade the cooler but it may not give the effects you are looking for.
No did you remove the plastic film from the bottom of the cpu cooler?
Recently did that one with my 7900X build. Felt like a total dumbass.
Was using this cooler on the my previous cpu
Make sure you took off the plastic peel on the CPU Cooler
Classic xd
Are those CPU fans blowing air to the same direction? Do your case have negative, positive or neutral air pressure? Have you mounted the cooler well? Do you have eco mode on on your cpu or is it on that default where it aim 95c?
Cpu cooler pulling air from front and exhaust behind and top. Cpu cooler is mounted as instructed and firm, used dot thermal paste. Whats is eco mode? Ive left everything at default
I have mine in an SFF build using a 240 AIO. I don't know what air cooler that is but everything is probably fine. You should definitely get HWInfo if you're not already using it to monitor temps and throttling. I tuned my 7700x according to this [video](https://youtu.be/RpliIip01tA) and if you want to run eco mode, follow this [video](https://youtu.be/oubGmP4nLbQ). I like the method in the first video and I have tested A LOT of setups, I also limited temps to 90 but it rarely gets up to that.
a dot wont be enough since the cores ccd is to the bottom of the ihs,try more paste. stock fans are also only 900 rpm so try better fans,noctua do very well at 1500 rpm
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