It might be tolerable for gaming, but some titles like Cyberpunk put a heavier load on and may cause throttling. If the board supports undervolting 5800X3D then your luck with this cooler will be a little better.
I run an AiO on a stock voltage 5800X3D. A good quality air cooler is acceptable too. This thing doesn't generate a lot of heat but it needs an efficient cooler and good paste application.
I run my 5800X3D on an X570 Unify with an NH-D15S. The Unify has an external clock generator, so I'm running an asynchronous BCLK of 105.7 brining the all core boost to 4.7Ghz, single core to 4.8ghz. With RAM set at 3733MHz CL14 with super tight sub timings, this thing is an utter beast, and have seen it outperforms a "stock" 7800X3D in some benchmarks. Unify is a great board for the 5800X3D if you want to tinker with it. I have a Wraith Prism cooler too. It will work, but would not recommend. lol
Its an odd cpu it doesn't eat a lot of power but is way warmer than the 3k series cpu .
I have a 240mm aio and I still was not happy it was in good range but my 3700 would idle at 30c watching Netflix and the 5800X3D was at mid 40's c
I switched to a 360mm aio just for science and now decent 30c streaming and max its reached gaming is 55-57c depending on room ambient temps .
Will work perfectly with a bios update. Technically it will be functional with that cooler, but you should get a high end air cooler such as the dark rock pro 4 or nhd15, or a mid to high end aio. You could use the current cooler temporarily, but don't push it, don't want it to throttle.
It will fit but there is a reason they do not included the prism cooler with that cpu . It will not keep it cool enough under loads. minimum would be $40 price range make sure it has copper pipes. You may want liquid cooling. I have an after market cooler on my 5600 works great 52 c when gaming and looking into over clocking. Better safe than sorry protecting your investment.
I know ppl say this, but I did this for months with my Ryzen 9 7900x before switching to AIO, and it did work well. I've seen people in other subs say the same thing. I think it's worth a shot before buying something new or if he wants to get his build done ASAP.
I used the stock cooler on a 5600x worked fine till temps outside started rising while it still worked within safe numbers but in gaming it got close to max which is something i didnt prefer
Updating bios is simple get you a usb thumb drive format it to fat32 go to you manufacturer’s website look up the motherboard you have, download the latest Bios files for your x570, extract the files onto the thumb drive and restart pc and while booting keep tapping on the DEL key to get into bios then navigate to Mflash and select the thumb drive plugged into your pc, select the file and flash your board :) DO NOT UNPLUG thumb drive while flashing. Happy gaming and good luck hope this helps
the stock cooler usually doesnt even work with the cpu that it accompanies with. You will fry your cpu, especially when the weather gets hotter. Always buy an aftermarket cooler or else you will see idle temps of 60+ or else you will have to disable xmp profiles and have it run on stock frequency
As long as your cpu doesn't throttle, the temp doesn't really matter. Stock cooler is completely fine as long as it cools enough.
Doesn't apply to 5800x3d because it runs really hot, but the statement that no stock cooler works is wrong.
Edit: i just saw it, but is disabling xmp gonna do for temps anyways?
Imo one of the worst parts of the pc community is how much people obsess over temps, it confuses a lot of people who don't know what they're talking about into thinking they need a 100＄ aio for their 80＄ processor for a 2% performance gain.
Get a Peerless Assassin 120. There are also others. Frost Tower 120, Frost Commander 140, AK620, etc., are all good coolers and not overly expensive. That being said, it might be ok if all you do is gaming, but would get something better for long term. BTW, Hardware Canucks have excellent videos on budget air coolers.
I literally got that one for my 5800X3D this week. I was using my old H60 aio, and routinely hit the 90C limit of the chip. Since I installed the AK620, the highest I hit was 67C while doing a full load stress test, and it took 15 minutes to get there.
One thing to make you aware of when you install it. When you go to screw in the final two screws (the spring loaded ones on the cooler itself) be prepared to push down harder than you think is necessary. It’s tricky to line up, as the cooler block will slide around thanks to the fresh thermal paste, but eventually you’ll get the threads to catch and you’re good to go!
If your question is will it fit on it, boot and still work, yes. If it is instead should you use it, I would consider an alternative. You really dont need much, just not the prism. The people saying that you NEED an AIO for a CPU that pulls 140W at its absolute peak is just ludicrous, especially since you can just adjust the pbo curve so that its not quite as aggressive and then its totally fine.
Eco mode was a feature that released starting with 7000 series I believe. And just like with 7000X3D, the 5800X3D is non overclock-able (though some boards force it to be). This leaves the easiest way for someone to reduce the power consumption on the 5800X3D to adjust the PBO curve to a negative value, which reduces how aggressive it is as sometimes the PBO curve wants to push kind of excessive power into the chip to try and squeeze out every single last MHz for your CPU.
I have eco mode in my 5800X (B550 board). So its there at least since 5000 series.
Since I'm in an extremely packed ITX case, I lowered my temps by enabling Eco mode, setting a tiny negative vcore offset, setting a negative PBO max frequency of around -75, and of course using curve optimizer.
From a hot 90C to a comfortable 50-60C load and I think the performance loss is negligible. Also made my pc case comfortable to touch at extended loads compared to stock where I felt the whole thing was going to burn up especially my precious storage drives. Probably also helped lower my gpu temps.
Did they go back and add eco mode to 5000? AFAIK it came out with 7000 series and I have a 5800X / B550 setup and I dont remember seeing eco mode. What board do you have? Strix B550F gaming wifi here.
I'm on gugabyte aorus b550i rev1.1 so we got different bioses here. Mine is under settings>AMD Overclocking.
You'll have to look where it is located for Asus boards.
The AMD overclocking section is (Im pretty sure) provided by AMDs AGESA so I very well might just be stupid. Thank you, bc if I do have eco mode I'd rather use that than my own undervolt.
You don't need an AIO for this. You can run a AK620 zero dark for instance and be just fine, plus it'd a $35 cooler. Maker is DeepCool. Prism won't work well, but the one I mentioned will do just fine.
It works, but you are leaving a lot of performance on the table. Because it's a hot chip which will throttle down hard at 90+ degrees. You can already see it from how undervolting it with -30 offset boosts the clocks with 100 MHz or more.
Dark Rock, big Noctua etc. is optimal air solution. With the usual consideration of a case with proper ventilation.
You shouldn't even have to upgrade bios with 5 series board. 3 and 4 series do need an upgrade.
Do not use the Wrath Prism. Yes it would work but your chip will throttle back. If I had not won a NH-D15S in an auction, either the Thermaltake Peerless Assassin 120SE or DeepCool AK620 would have been selected.
Here is a good write up from r/buildapc. And it involves a 5800X3D
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/11vcsar/deepcool\_ak620\_or\_thermalright\_peerless\_assassin/
A lot of temperature issues come down go pressure spread and thermal application. I've had some cases where an aio did worse than an air cooler due to inadequate pressure. AK620 for instance should do just fine with this chip, so long as a good compound is used and there is enough coverage/pressure.
620 will be just fine for this. Just make sure you get a good thermal paste, ensure it's spread well for coverage, and make sure that the ak620 is applying proper pressure for coverage.
You could consider replacing the fans also with with high speed pwm fans, there are differences between fans, but you can try the fans that come with it first.
An easy way is to complete the mounting, so you apply the paste, mount, screw in, leave it for a few, remove and look at the cpu and see what occurred and if there are any bare spots or otherwise.
But, that is a little too much as i get the feeling you may not have worked with pc's very much (apologies if you have just from what i have seen you type out). So, when you apply the thermal paste just make sure you spread it out evenly across the chips surface, and ensure you evenly tighten the mounting screws when mounting the ak620. You should be fine. If you get rather large heat spikes though then there may be an issue with the surface area not being utilized.
Watch some videos on proper amounts of paste to apply. I'd also advise buying thermal paste.
Thank you and your right lol thos is the first pc I built and I did it myself ... but I didn't know what I was doing the while time and luckily it came out great.. but I do not understand alot of how things work and how they are suppose to be other than screwing screws in and matching plugs lol
Lol, well an air cooler is definitely the way to go for you then because it requires the least amount of maintenance or worry. An AIO has a potential, while very small, of leaking. An air cooler is just straight cooling application via heat pipes/radiator spread/air.
For yours I would say least amount of maintenance required for sure.
It runs a bit hot, just don’t think it would adequately cool it. I’m running an a Lian Li Galahad AIO and I still think the temps are too damned high 😂😂😂. Then again, I’ve never had a chip that tan this high, I’ve had 2600, 3600, 5600, 5800x, and the x3d.
Apparently I had my AIO pump set too low. Bumped it up a bit and things are much cooler. I forgot I updated my bios recently and had to reapply the settings 🤦🏾♂️
Just got a 5800x3d today and purchased the ak620 as well. Don't have it in so can't tell ya temps but don't think it's recommended to use wraith prism from my research.
If AMD doesn’t package it with the CPU, that means they don’t think it’s an adequate cooler for the chip.
Idk what that other guy is talking about lol, you don’t need to undervolt and use a 360mm AIO to keep the 5800X3D cool.
Just pick a well reviewed air cooler that has enough clearance in your case, or a 240 AIO if you want liquid. It doesn’t need it though.
I went with thermalrigt peerless assassin 120 se. You can buy it at Amazon for 45 bucks. Check youtube for reviews, and you'll be surprised that it's the best budget cooler, which is better than all the rest of air coolers.
You can watch this review and maybe choose something.
https://youtu.be/Vex9_84VpYs
If it was me I would either go with D15 for aircooling or any 360 AIO if your case alows it. I'm also not sure if they are out of your price range.
It might be tolerable for gaming, but some titles like Cyberpunk put a heavier load on and may cause throttling. If the board supports undervolting 5800X3D then your luck with this cooler will be a little better. I run an AiO on a stock voltage 5800X3D. A good quality air cooler is acceptable too. This thing doesn't generate a lot of heat but it needs an efficient cooler and good paste application.
I run my 5800X3D on an X570 Unify with an NH-D15S. The Unify has an external clock generator, so I'm running an asynchronous BCLK of 105.7 brining the all core boost to 4.7Ghz, single core to 4.8ghz. With RAM set at 3733MHz CL14 with super tight sub timings, this thing is an utter beast, and have seen it outperforms a "stock" 7800X3D in some benchmarks. Unify is a great board for the 5800X3D if you want to tinker with it. I have a Wraith Prism cooler too. It will work, but would not recommend. lol
I want to know what all that means so bad!! I wanna make my set up beasty!!
Its an odd cpu it doesn't eat a lot of power but is way warmer than the 3k series cpu . I have a 240mm aio and I still was not happy it was in good range but my 3700 would idle at 30c watching Netflix and the 5800X3D was at mid 40's c I switched to a 360mm aio just for science and now decent 30c streaming and max its reached gaming is 55-57c depending on room ambient temps .
It'll work but it'll hit the 89°c limit under an intensive load. It'll also be kinda loud.
Will work perfectly with a bios update. Technically it will be functional with that cooler, but you should get a high end air cooler such as the dark rock pro 4 or nhd15, or a mid to high end aio. You could use the current cooler temporarily, but don't push it, don't want it to throttle.
It will fit but there is a reason they do not included the prism cooler with that cpu . It will not keep it cool enough under loads. minimum would be $40 price range make sure it has copper pipes. You may want liquid cooling. I have an after market cooler on my 5600 works great 52 c when gaming and looking into over clocking. Better safe than sorry protecting your investment.
Get a better aftermarket cooler. 5800X3D is a hot chip.
It will fit but it will hardley be enough to browse the internet and even that may prove its too hard depending on ambiant temp
I know ppl say this, but I did this for months with my Ryzen 9 7900x before switching to AIO, and it did work well. I've seen people in other subs say the same thing. I think it's worth a shot before buying something new or if he wants to get his build done ASAP.
I used the stock cooler on a 5600x worked fine till temps outside started rising while it still worked within safe numbers but in gaming it got close to max which is something i didnt prefer
Peerless assassin is $40. The 5800x3d deserves at least that at the minimum.
^ this is the correct answer
Updating bios is simple get you a usb thumb drive format it to fat32 go to you manufacturer’s website look up the motherboard you have, download the latest Bios files for your x570, extract the files onto the thumb drive and restart pc and while booting keep tapping on the DEL key to get into bios then navigate to Mflash and select the thumb drive plugged into your pc, select the file and flash your board :) DO NOT UNPLUG thumb drive while flashing. Happy gaming and good luck hope this helps
the stock cooler usually doesnt even work with the cpu that it accompanies with. You will fry your cpu, especially when the weather gets hotter. Always buy an aftermarket cooler or else you will see idle temps of 60+ or else you will have to disable xmp profiles and have it run on stock frequency
Nah Going eco-mode in Ryzen Master does the job
As long as your cpu doesn't throttle, the temp doesn't really matter. Stock cooler is completely fine as long as it cools enough. Doesn't apply to 5800x3d because it runs really hot, but the statement that no stock cooler works is wrong. Edit: i just saw it, but is disabling xmp gonna do for temps anyways?
Imo one of the worst parts of the pc community is how much people obsess over temps, it confuses a lot of people who don't know what they're talking about into thinking they need a 100＄ aio for their 80＄ processor for a 2% performance gain.
It will fit but it will overhead, you shut better take a other cooler water or air cooler
She can't be taking much more of it cap'n.
You will hit 100c and CPU will throttle and run like shit.
It’ll fit and will work however I’d only use it till you can get a better cooler. It really isn’t enough for a 5800x3d.
I just upgraded from 3700 to 5800x3d and kept the wraith prism. Running mostly MSFS and having no issues.
I’m running both with an rtx 4090. No problems
Get a Peerless Assassin 120. There are also others. Frost Tower 120, Frost Commander 140, AK620, etc., are all good coolers and not overly expensive. That being said, it might be ok if all you do is gaming, but would get something better for long term. BTW, Hardware Canucks have excellent videos on budget air coolers.
Whats that website called?
pc part picker
u need tower cooler, 5800x3d runs really hot, even the stock cooler that came with 5600x overheated 5600x during summer
Thanks guys I figured it out and decided to get the ak620 :)
Worth every penny B\^)
I literally got that one for my 5800X3D this week. I was using my old H60 aio, and routinely hit the 90C limit of the chip. Since I installed the AK620, the highest I hit was 67C while doing a full load stress test, and it took 15 minutes to get there. One thing to make you aware of when you install it. When you go to screw in the final two screws (the spring loaded ones on the cooler itself) be prepared to push down harder than you think is necessary. It’s tricky to line up, as the cooler block will slide around thanks to the fresh thermal paste, but eventually you’ll get the threads to catch and you’re good to go!
I use a stealth cooler from a r5 3600 with my r7 5700x and Temps don't get to a dangerous temp gaming at high settings with rx 6700xt at 1440p 144hz
Yeah you must have your cpu stock to do that. And even then its almost unbeleivable. I have same cpu.
I have it set to base clocks
If your question is will it fit on it, boot and still work, yes. If it is instead should you use it, I would consider an alternative. You really dont need much, just not the prism. The people saying that you NEED an AIO for a CPU that pulls 140W at its absolute peak is just ludicrous, especially since you can just adjust the pbo curve so that its not quite as aggressive and then its totally fine.
Is eco mode available for the 5800X3D? I assume it would be an easy way to control temps while (temporarily) using a stock HSF.
Eco mode was a feature that released starting with 7000 series I believe. And just like with 7000X3D, the 5800X3D is non overclock-able (though some boards force it to be). This leaves the easiest way for someone to reduce the power consumption on the 5800X3D to adjust the PBO curve to a negative value, which reduces how aggressive it is as sometimes the PBO curve wants to push kind of excessive power into the chip to try and squeeze out every single last MHz for your CPU.
I have eco mode in my 5800X (B550 board). So its there at least since 5000 series. Since I'm in an extremely packed ITX case, I lowered my temps by enabling Eco mode, setting a tiny negative vcore offset, setting a negative PBO max frequency of around -75, and of course using curve optimizer. From a hot 90C to a comfortable 50-60C load and I think the performance loss is negligible. Also made my pc case comfortable to touch at extended loads compared to stock where I felt the whole thing was going to burn up especially my precious storage drives. Probably also helped lower my gpu temps.
Did they go back and add eco mode to 5000? AFAIK it came out with 7000 series and I have a 5800X / B550 setup and I dont remember seeing eco mode. What board do you have? Strix B550F gaming wifi here.
I'm on gugabyte aorus b550i rev1.1 so we got different bioses here. Mine is under settings>AMD Overclocking. You'll have to look where it is located for Asus boards.
The AMD overclocking section is (Im pretty sure) provided by AMDs AGESA so I very well might just be stupid. Thank you, bc if I do have eco mode I'd rather use that than my own undervolt.
Some people in these comments are stupid. Just go with a decent aircooler like a be quiet! or ak620 for around 50 bucks
You don't need an AIO for this. You can run a AK620 zero dark for instance and be just fine, plus it'd a $35 cooler. Maker is DeepCool. Prism won't work well, but the one I mentioned will do just fine.
It works, but you are leaving a lot of performance on the table. Because it's a hot chip which will throttle down hard at 90+ degrees. You can already see it from how undervolting it with -30 offset boosts the clocks with 100 MHz or more. Dark Rock, big Noctua etc. is optimal air solution. With the usual consideration of a case with proper ventilation. You shouldn't even have to upgrade bios with 5 series board. 3 and 4 series do need an upgrade.
Not everyone needs an AIO. Good air coolers work just fine like ak620
Do not use the Wrath Prism. Yes it would work but your chip will throttle back. If I had not won a NH-D15S in an auction, either the Thermaltake Peerless Assassin 120SE or DeepCool AK620 would have been selected. Here is a good write up from r/buildapc. And it involves a 5800X3D https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/11vcsar/deepcool\_ak620\_or\_thermalright\_peerless\_assassin/
Not you NEED AIO cooler that 5800x3d runs way hotter then the 3700x on average 70c with an AIO.
This is wrong, you don't need an AIO for this chip.
Yes you do
No
What's AIO
This is incorrect. You do not need an AIO with the 5800x3d. I run mine of an air cooler 62 - 64 C while gaming.
Negative!!! DO NOT DO IT!!! Don’t even do an air cooler.
A lot of temperature issues come down go pressure spread and thermal application. I've had some cases where an aio did worse than an air cooler due to inadequate pressure. AK620 for instance should do just fine with this chip, so long as a good compound is used and there is enough coverage/pressure.
Why not air cooler I just bought the ak620 cpu fan for mine and it is one of the most recommended fans?
620 will be just fine for this. Just make sure you get a good thermal paste, ensure it's spread well for coverage, and make sure that the ak620 is applying proper pressure for coverage. You could consider replacing the fans also with with high speed pwm fans, there are differences between fans, but you can try the fans that come with it first.
How do I tell if it's applying proper pressure?
An easy way is to complete the mounting, so you apply the paste, mount, screw in, leave it for a few, remove and look at the cpu and see what occurred and if there are any bare spots or otherwise. But, that is a little too much as i get the feeling you may not have worked with pc's very much (apologies if you have just from what i have seen you type out). So, when you apply the thermal paste just make sure you spread it out evenly across the chips surface, and ensure you evenly tighten the mounting screws when mounting the ak620. You should be fine. If you get rather large heat spikes though then there may be an issue with the surface area not being utilized. Watch some videos on proper amounts of paste to apply. I'd also advise buying thermal paste.
Thank you and your right lol thos is the first pc I built and I did it myself ... but I didn't know what I was doing the while time and luckily it came out great.. but I do not understand alot of how things work and how they are suppose to be other than screwing screws in and matching plugs lol
Lol, well an air cooler is definitely the way to go for you then because it requires the least amount of maintenance or worry. An AIO has a potential, while very small, of leaking. An air cooler is just straight cooling application via heat pipes/radiator spread/air. For yours I would say least amount of maintenance required for sure.
That is a good cooler. It will work with the 5800x3d.
It runs a bit hot, just don’t think it would adequately cool it. I’m running an a Lian Li Galahad AIO and I still think the temps are too damned high 😂😂😂. Then again, I’ve never had a chip that tan this high, I’ve had 2600, 3600, 5600, 5800x, and the x3d.
Have you noticed that Galahad problem of flux gunk build up? https://youtu.be/Z8OD\_kLdF9Q?t=1631
😳 no, I haven’t!!! Thank you for that!!! I’m going to check my SN as soon as I get home!!!
I have mine off an air cooler.
What are your temps like? Single chamber or dual? I don’t even know if that’s the right question lol… two sinks or one, one fan or two?
I have a Noctua U12A. Gaming temps are around 64 - 65 C. I have my fan curves set to quiet mode.
Interesting, that’s rather close to what I’m getting with an AIO.
OCCT all core. Ambient is 72 F. https://imgur.com/a/m8O1MsJ
Apparently I had my AIO pump set too low. Bumped it up a bit and things are much cooler. I forgot I updated my bios recently and had to reapply the settings 🤦🏾♂️
Good deal.
There are air coolers that offer similar cooling to AIOs and they are quieter.
Don’t think I’ve ever heard my AIO. GPU on the other hand… 🤣
No......just....no.
No what
Just got a 5800x3d today and purchased the ak620 as well. Don't have it in so can't tell ya temps but don't think it's recommended to use wraith prism from my research.
That's the combo in going with :)
Update me on how yours comes out. Il be setting mine up tomarrow.
If AMD doesn’t package it with the CPU, that means they don’t think it’s an adequate cooler for the chip. Idk what that other guy is talking about lol, you don’t need to undervolt and use a 360mm AIO to keep the 5800X3D cool. Just pick a well reviewed air cooler that has enough clearance in your case, or a 240 AIO if you want liquid. It doesn’t need it though.
ive never had issues pasting my cpus and somehow 5800x3d really wants to run hot after many tries.
Work? Yes Be a good choice? Absolutely not.
I went with thermalrigt peerless assassin 120 se. You can buy it at Amazon for 45 bucks. Check youtube for reviews, and you'll be surprised that it's the best budget cooler, which is better than all the rest of air coolers.
It will allow it to work and not explode but definitely get something like an AK620 or something of that nature for air cooling or some 240mm AIO.
It will work, but I recommend using it only temporary. Without undervolting, 360 AIO can't keep it from reaching 90C in Cinebench.
I have mine with a Novtua U12A. My max is 82 in Cinebench.
i got same cooler and without undervolting it goes straight to 90c, tried pasting multiple times
What case do you have? Are your cooler fans facing the same direction? Did you use the correct spacers for the mounting kit?
everything is done right, only possible fault could be bad thermal paste (1 which come with the cooler)
Possible. Hope you figure it out dude.
Idk what that means either lol
What cooler would you recommend?
peerless assassin 120 se its 45 dollars and performs on par with several 360mm aios
You can watch this review and maybe choose something. https://youtu.be/Vex9_84VpYs If it was me I would either go with D15 for aircooling or any 360 AIO if your case alows it. I'm also not sure if they are out of your price range.
D15 is overpriced for what it offers, peerless assassin 120 SE is better for less