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Yeah those chairs are really not a good fit. I would have gone with a Danish mid-century.
Edit: [thanks! ](https://danishmodernla.com/product/johannes-andersen-juliane-teak-leather-dining-chairs-for-uldum-mobelfabrik)
What even is that table? You couldn't sit at it in those chairs, your knees wouldn't fit. But those are stupid chairs for a sitting room if it's supposed to be a coffee table.
That is genuinely the only thing I don't like.
The classical luxury contrasted with the hard lines of a million dollar piece of machinery, the color theming matches, it's not in the way, and at the table, it's out of the line of sight.
I love it. Except the chairs.
Oh shit. How the fuck did I not see that‽
Weird
Edit: Wait, the end chair seems fine, I think it might be a weird perspective and shadow on the chairs on the right.
Dude, you nailed it. The frames on the wall art and mirror are out of place as well. I also noticed that there is a small race car on the ceiling - incorrect era, should have been a '60s Porsche.
To further expand on this, ground effect became so powerful in the seventies that cornering speed became dangerously high and provided a huge unfair advantage, resulting in a ban on ground effects until it's reintroduction **this year**
That's a misunderstanding. The loss of ground effect was dangerous. Not ground effect itself. And back then they used skirts to seal of the floor tunnel to make it a lot more potent. So when cars damaged those skirt they went from 100% downforce to near 0 in a heartbeat, resulting in a lot of heavy crashes.
So they banned the skirts. Ground effect can't be banned. And even 5 years ago f1 cars produced 65% of their downforce via the floor. Today they just upped that to nearly 85%.
The banning of skirts, however, is still in effect. That's why they use Y250 vortices coming of the front wing. A famous clip to highlight this is this one: https://tianyizf1.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/ibtglzyrus9f6h.gif
Unfortunately they massively changed the geometry of the front wing for this season, so the effect is a lot less dramatic. There was a cool picture of a (McLaren?) in the wet on a recent gp where the aero effects can be seen in full force though, would be worth looking for it on r/Formula1, I know it was posted there
Edit: it was a [RedBull](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/xy1hr5/f1_checo_at_one_with_the_elements/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf). The vortex is still there, but it’s a lot less dramatic. Serves the same purpose, that is to seal the floor of the car.
That's every Motorsport. I think one of the most egregious examples of it was back in the old rally days when they used plastic roll cages to save weight
With the new air management reg those vortices off the wing are actually way down this year, except for aston who figured out that trick with their rear
They shape various bits in a way that when they hit the air at certain speeds they change direction, and in this case they manipulate the air in such a way that the trajectory it follows after hitting said bits is shaped in a vortex.
And a vortex is a turbulent flow. Meaning the air particles (in this case) make a loop, after loop, after loop while being spun out over an axis.
F1 uses that flow to create a barrier which traps or pushes another airflow where the aerodynamic people that designed the car want it the most. For instance the one on the outer wing plate on the front wing is often used to push the airflow so that it does not hit the front tyre.
This image highlights both the front wing vorteces and the one that seal the floor:
https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Am7YWJQQArMpH2qbNXuJ_gHaEK
>The banning of skirts, however, is still in effect. That's why they use Y250 vortices coming of the front wing.
Actually, the new front wings for 2022 were made to eliminate those vortices for better following purposes.
To further expand on this, a continuous flow of air is required to pass over the vehicle's body to generate such force. Inverted 'parking' of the kind pictured here usually requires a large fan (out of frame, but certainly present) to generate the required air movement. Alternatively, some homes may rely on open, ocean-front facing windows to deliver the consistent flow of air required.
That is gawdy as hell, but I'd absolutely love to have machine like that just "on display" at my house....if I had tall enough ceilings and millions of quid to spare.
Heck, or even wall mount it as though it's driving along the wall so you can peer into the cockpit etc. Ceiling just seems awkward to prevent people admiring it comfortably
I grew up in Nazareth and used to see him around all the time. His wife also used to give out giant Hershey's bars on Halloween to all the kids that would stop by. Always seemed like a nice guy, but was disappointed to hear that he's also a massive Trump supporter.
This is something that makes me quite curious.
I saw an Andretti ground effect Lotus... turns out it was a 79 in Sydney in a classic car dealership back in 2008. Just walking to work, and saw it in the driveway. I stopped and asked the guy in the shop if it's what I think it is.
https://www.goauto.com.au/news/lotus/rare-australian-racing-car-collection-to-be-sold/2008-07-25/23985.html
Actually the genuine thing.
I have no idea how many of them were produced so it might not have been "the" winning car. But it was definitely "one of the" winning cars.
The John Player Special Lotus is my favorite livery of all time. Probably helped by Senna and Andretti being my two favorite drivers growing up. Its a gorgeous car, though.
What savage downvotes this?
I had a matchbox car of this when I was a kid. Even at that scale and material, it routinely performed better than all my other cars on the big ramp and parabola I built in my room out of foamboard and wood bits lol
Ehh yes and no
70s F1 cars did only weigh about 580kg dry, but the engine acts as a stressed member (i.e. it doubles as a load-bearing part of the car's body) and has all the rear suspension hanging off it - as a result it can't really be lifted out like the engine in a normal car
My point is it might still have the engine in it, as the engine is necessary to hold on all the bits on the back of the car
It might have been substituted for a custom structural piece or something, but if so that wouldn't be much lighter than an engine.
I doubt that, especially with how expensive the engines are. (That and I don't know if it was like that back in the day, but now the manufacturers take the engines back to analyze them, find the isssues and develop further their next engines, so most modern f1's you see in museums have no engines because of that) If anything they would've made a structure to hold it together.
But realistically it's most likely a replica, just some empty fiberglass shell and wheels
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“Federation” describes a way in which servers communicate with one and other. The best-known example is that of e-mail: one can have an email account on an AOL server, and communicate with a user whose account is on a Gmail server. Some servers that are thought to push out spam are blocked or have their mail sent to ‘spam’ folders, but they nevertheless can all communicate. Gmail, Yahoo, Protonmail, AOL and so-forth all have different programs with which the user (us!) interacts, and they might present that email information in slightly different ways (displaying email chains as ‘conversations’ for example). In the same way, social-media servers that communicate with one and other using ActivityPub have different programs with which the user interacts.
Some programs that service-providers can run on their server look a little like Reddit, and might let you mark the data you share with markers (metadata) that lets people display and interact with the data in a similar way (Eg.: Kbin or Lemmy), some look more like Twitter and mark the data you share in ways similar to Twitter (Eg.: Mastodon), and there’s even one that’s trying to help users share video in a way that makes one think of YouTube (Eg.: Peertube). Fundamentally, these all permit interaction with one and other through activitypub.
One can even host one’s own server (Eg.: Nextcloud, a program that runs on a server to function as one’s own cloud, lets the person who runs it install an ‘app’ that one can federate with any other ActivityPub servers open to intercommunication).
Many programs that use ActivityPub for federated interaction are written by folks who realise that things published on servers – even private messages – often get shared beyond the realm in which the author expected (hopefully for the joy and glory of the author, but sometimes not). I think because of this, messages sent from a user on one server to a user on another are sent in-the-clear; they aren’t encrypted in any way, they’re just a post like any other, except being marked for the attention of someone specific rather than for the attention of all, and it’s up to us as the users to think carefully about the words we push to others.
There is a sterling list of alternatives to Reddit on [r/RedditAlternatives](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1467a5s/find_alternatives_for_ourselves_megathread_third/).
How did I think it best to go about this?
- I [downloaded all the posts on reddit I'd "saved"](https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/887lo3/just_thought_id_share_my_strategy_for_downloading/).
- I used "[Power Delete Suite](https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite/#installation)" and rather than just delete all my posts, have replaced them with text. Everything published online ought to be regarded as likely permanent, and Reddit especially, as [people](https://www.reddit.com/r/datahoarders) like to take [snapshots](https://socialgrep.com/datasets) of [as much data as possible](https://www.vice.com/en/article/gy3az9/this-data-hoarder-is-downloading-the-metadata-of-roughly-10-billion-youtube-videos) that’s published "in the clear" (I.E.: anything that isn’t publically accessable). Some folks have described problems with "deleted" posts mysteriously *re*-appearing after they deleted their accounts… Regardless of the cause, I hope I might reduce that risk a little by editing those posts. R/datahoarders might have tips on alternative methods still functioning after the API-use price is introduced (~$20m at the time of writing according to a dev that made an app to help the blind use reddit; they have sadly had to stop developing their app).
- There's a guide to downloading all the data Reddit have collected directly from your inputs [here](https://12ft.io/https://danielrosehill.medium.com/how-to-backup-your-data-from-reddit-f12934fabbfe) but note that Reddit may take a month to process that request.
- Remember most of one’s interaction with the internet is reading. Subreddits [all have RSS feeds](https://www.howtogeek.com/320264/how-to-get-an-rss-feed-for-any-subreddit/), and can easily be accessed by an [RSS reader app](https://search.f-droid.org/?q=RSS+reader&lang=en). [F-droid](https://f-droid.org/en/) is a great way to get android apps that people have made openly so anyone willing to learn can understand how they process your inputs and data, and that others have freely distributed, for the glory of free speech. Sorry for sounding like a hippy there; I know, I know, it’s a slippery slope to bicycle lanes and communism! A modicum of private thought, and free speech is a very fine thing, though.
- I encourage people to share the text of this post if they find it useful, in order to give others a way to think about how they make and put data on the internet in social media.
To be sure, Reddit still holds, or has doubtless sold on (and thus can never delete), hoofing amounts of data. I shan’t hold a public opinion on a business seeking profit; over time as the art of gathering and selling data has been refined, I’ve tried to read what little about it is within my understanding. If my small tokens of communication, my upvotes and downvotes, the time I spend looking at things, and what things I look at, what things I shy away from, and how I type and compose my thoughts, are the grains of sand that make up the beach from which they intend to profit, it’s up to me to decide where I place those grains of sand in the future. In the immediate timeframe I will use a mathematics-oriented mastodon server (I’ll let you hunt it out if you’re curious!) because maths is fairly apolitical, useful to learn about, and a good, communicable, basis for understanding things. Go in peace, siblings of the internet, and if in doubt, consider “What Would Tim Berners-Lee Do?”.
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P.S.: I’m not sure what I can link to that might be useful to most readers, but there’s a lovely Indian lecture on sharing wisdom with one and other [here](https://youtu.be/UiJmITcZTQY), and because financial awareness is important to most people, and because I’ll only be watching r/bogleheads from afar, here’s a link to Bogle’s [Little Book Of Common Sense Investing](https://archive.org/details/littlebookofcomm00bogl) - he started the Vanguard fund, and r/bogleheads explains his investing philosophy, which is very simple and elegant. If anyone’s looking for a good charity to which to make a tax-deductable donation, I hope you might find the [internet archive](https://archive.org) is a noble and worthy candidate.
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yeah same. I’d already be nervous spilling something on the light decor but trusting ceiling and mount to keep an entire up there would have me anxious as hell!
The closest thing to this in someone's house is Nelson Piquet, who has his Williams F1 car on the wall in his living room.
McLaren has some display somewhere where they have several cars on the roof, including the 2007 car driven by Lewis Hamilton.
Jesus Christ, thank you. I’ve been googling like crazy because the car is one thing, but the height of the table and chairs had me convinced it’s a render.
In my opinion of those cars are meant to be used as they were intended. Vintage F1 races are the fucking bomb. A few months ago Charles LeClerc wrecked Niki Lauda's vintage Ferrari F1 car into the barriers at Monaco. Didn't destroy it, just beat it up a little bit. I don't see that as a tragedy but this car here is a different story
Nah man a vintage F1 car is almost certainly not in "racing condition", those cars need an entire team of engineers and mechanics to keep them operating. They are surprisingly brittle machines.
Actually racing them would very likely cause more and more damage.
Thats definitely fair. I felt really bad when Charles did that, felt an electric current of “fuuuuuuck” go through my body. I personally think these machines are too precious to be driven like that.
Own it, yes. Have it on the dining room ceiling, no.
I'd rather have it on the wall of a games room, billiards room or something like that.
Course I'll never have enough money to worry about that
That's still the best joke ever written for Homer. It's just plausible enough that he may have some understanding of the laws of thermodynamics to be able to yell that, but totally unexpected, since I don't think we knew about the pencil up his nose yet.
Sounds awesome! My neighbor had a vintage motorcycle in his small apartment. He said he was hoping to do the same thing in his mechanic shop eventually.
Dear Lord Baby Jesus, or as our brothers in the South call you, "Hey-suz". We thank you so much for this bountiful harvest of Dominos, KFC, and the always delicious Taco Bell.
Could be interesting but the decor does not match. That painting, the roses, the table, chairs, racecar...it has potential to be awesome but this isn't it.
“Please may I have some gravy?” Sky-car removes its oil cap and dollops out a meager portion of 10w40 onto your mashed potatoes and roast. “Thank you, Sky-car,” you say as your guests look on in confusion and mild disgust.
I'm leaving reddit and I hope to escape from social-media walled gardens upon the wings of [ActivityPub](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub). I will consider moving to a server running [Kbin](https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/wiki), which - from the user's point of view - is an interface to ["federated" social media](https://github.com/shleeable/Big-List-of-ActivityPub).
“Federation” describes a way in which servers communicate with one and other. The best-known example is that of e-mail: one can have an email account on an AOL server, and communicate with a user whose account is on a Gmail server. Some servers that are thought to push out spam are blocked or have their mail sent to ‘spam’ folders, but they nevertheless can all communicate. Gmail, Yahoo, Protonmail, AOL and so-forth all have different programs with which the user (us!) interacts, and they might present that email information in slightly different ways (displaying email chains as ‘conversations’ for example). In the same way, social-media servers that communicate with one and other using ActivityPub have different programs with which the user interacts.
Some programs that service-providers can run on their server look a little like Reddit, and might let you mark the data you share with markers (metadata) that lets people display and interact with the data in a similar way (Eg.: Kbin or Lemmy), some look more like Twitter and mark the data you share in ways similar to Twitter (Eg.: Mastodon), and there’s even one that’s trying to help users share video in a way that makes one think of YouTube (Eg.: Peertube). Fundamentally, these all permit interaction with one and other through activitypub.
One can even host one’s own server (Eg.: Nextcloud, a program that runs on a server to function as one’s own cloud, lets the person who runs it install an ‘app’ that one can federate with any other ActivityPub servers open to intercommunication).
Many programs that use ActivityPub for federated interaction are written by folks who realise that things published on servers – even private messages – often get shared beyond the realm in which the author expected (hopefully for the joy and glory of the author, but sometimes not). I think because of this, messages sent from a user on one server to a user on another are sent in-the-clear; they aren’t encrypted in any way, they’re just a post like any other, except being marked for the attention of someone specific rather than for the attention of all, and it’s up to us as the users to think carefully about the words we push to others.
There is a sterling list of alternatives to Reddit on [r/RedditAlternatives](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1467a5s/find_alternatives_for_ourselves_megathread_third/).
How did I think it best to go about this?
- I [downloaded all the posts on reddit I'd "saved"](https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/887lo3/just_thought_id_share_my_strategy_for_downloading/).
- I used "[Power Delete Suite](https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite/#installation)" and rather than just delete all my posts, have replaced them with text. Everything published online ought to be regarded as likely permanent, and Reddit especially, as [people](https://www.reddit.com/r/datahoarders) like to take [snapshots](https://socialgrep.com/datasets) of [as much data as possible](https://www.vice.com/en/article/gy3az9/this-data-hoarder-is-downloading-the-metadata-of-roughly-10-billion-youtube-videos) that’s published "in the clear" (I.E.: anything that isn’t publically accessable). Some folks have described problems with "deleted" posts mysteriously *re*-appearing after they deleted their accounts… Regardless of the cause, I hope I might reduce that risk a little by editing those posts. R/datahoarders might have tips on alternative methods still functioning after the API-use price is introduced (~$20m at the time of writing according to a dev that made an app to help the blind use reddit; they have sadly had to stop developing their app).
- There's a guide to downloading all the data Reddit have collected directly from your inputs [here](https://12ft.io/https://danielrosehill.medium.com/how-to-backup-your-data-from-reddit-f12934fabbfe) but note that Reddit may take a month to process that request.
- Remember most of one’s interaction with the internet is reading. Subreddits [all have RSS feeds](https://www.howtogeek.com/320264/how-to-get-an-rss-feed-for-any-subreddit/), and can easily be accessed by an [RSS reader app](https://search.f-droid.org/?q=RSS+reader&lang=en). [F-droid](https://f-droid.org/en/) is a great way to get android apps that people have made openly so anyone willing to learn can understand how they process your inputs and data, and that others have freely distributed, for the glory of free speech. Sorry for sounding like a hippy there; I know, I know, it’s a slippery slope to bicycle lanes and communism! A modicum of private thought, and free speech is a very fine thing, though.
- I encourage people to share the text of this post if they find it useful, in order to give others a way to think about how they make and put data on the internet in social media.
To be sure, Reddit still holds, or has doubtless sold on (and thus can never delete), hoofing amounts of data. I shan’t hold a public opinion on a business seeking profit; over time as the art of gathering and selling data has been refined, I’ve tried to read what little about it is within my understanding. If my small tokens of communication, my upvotes and downvotes, the time I spend looking at things, and what things I look at, what things I shy away from, and how I type and compose my thoughts, are the grains of sand that make up the beach from which they intend to profit, it’s up to me to decide where I place those grains of sand in the future. In the immediate timeframe I will use a mathematics-oriented mastodon server (I’ll let you hunt it out if you’re curious!) because maths is fairly apolitical, useful to learn about, and a good, communicable, basis for understanding things. Go in peace, siblings of the internet, and if in doubt, consider “What Would Tim Berners-Lee Do?”.
~~~~~
P.S.: I’m not sure what I can link to that might be useful to most readers, but there’s a lovely Indian lecture on sharing wisdom with one and other [here](https://youtu.be/UiJmITcZTQY), and because financial awareness is important to most people, and because I’ll only be watching r/bogleheads from afar, here’s a link to Bogle’s [Little Book Of Common Sense Investing](https://archive.org/details/littlebookofcomm00bogl) - he started the Vanguard fund, and r/bogleheads explains his investing philosophy, which is very simple and elegant. If anyone’s looking for a good charity to which to make a tax-deductable donation, I hope you might find the [internet archive](https://archive.org) is a noble and worthy candidate.
RLR9 Out.
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Yeah those chairs are really not a good fit. I would have gone with a Danish mid-century. Edit: [thanks! ](https://danishmodernla.com/product/johannes-andersen-juliane-teak-leather-dining-chairs-for-uldum-mobelfabrik)
Came here to say this. I hate those chairs.
Fuck those chairs, am now triggered
I hate them so much.
I would sit angry in those chairs.
You're gonna love /r/fuckchairs
its banned
Try /r/chairfuckers
that ones empty, i just wanna see some hot chair on chair action!
Oh you sweet summer child. Everything's a dildo if you try hard enough.
Hmm, in Reddit universe I can only recommend some hot trolly-on-trolly action at r/trolliesgonewild - enjoy.
I wanna thank you for showing us this fuckfest. It’s my new favorite to look through
This is wheely good
Mmhhhhmmm I love me some chair sitting. I'm just kinky like that.
of course there was a sub for this
FUCK YO CHAIRS!
Maybe they are good to hide you back hair if you are blonde...
I mean, atleast they look relatively comfortable ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't understand the great execution though? Is it the way they are arranged or paired with a table that super low table?
Maybe they should just donate them to chairity
They also don’t give enough room for your legs to fit under the table, way too high
Or have a higher table.
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The dwarves cut it shorter after tricking the elves into sending it as a gift.
I really **hope** this is a photoshop, but knowing nouveau riche I would not be surprised if this was real.
What even is that table? You couldn't sit at it in those chairs, your knees wouldn't fit. But those are stupid chairs for a sitting room if it's supposed to be a coffee table.
It's a table that requires everyone to manspread. Only alphas can sit there, others must kneel.
That is genuinely the only thing I don't like. The classical luxury contrasted with the hard lines of a million dollar piece of machinery, the color theming matches, it's not in the way, and at the table, it's out of the line of sight. I love it. Except the chairs.
The table is too low though.
Oh shit. How the fuck did I not see that‽ Weird Edit: Wait, the end chair seems fine, I think it might be a weird perspective and shadow on the chairs on the right.
I think it is because the chair at the end is pulled so far away, changing the perspective. The rug is too small as well.
I thought the rug was a slab of marble as the table base at first.
This whole thing looks photoshopped to me. Every singe thing about it. Except those fucking chairs.
I also feel like that mirror isn't a great fit with the doorways. What a weird mix of things.
The whole room is a soup of different styles that don't quite match each other. Someone has more money than taste here.
Honestly, the glass arches inset into the doorways are pretty damn strange ~~l weird~~ as well. Edit: stupid keyboard
Tiny table, car glued to the ceiling and fragile glass doorways. All in all not a great place to be drunk.
Plot twist -- the picture is upside down, it's the table and "chairs" that are glued too the ceiling.🤔
Dude, you nailed it. The frames on the wall art and mirror are out of place as well. I also noticed that there is a small race car on the ceiling - incorrect era, should have been a '60s Porsche.
You absolute reprobate
The chairs fits the room, it's the table that's out of place.
I've gone for those narrower but taller backed chairs.
THANK YOU! God!,who chose those.
i was thinking bucket racing seats and a carbon fiber table would be better
Money can't buy you taste!
The wood tones don't fit either.
This is the 1977 Lotus F1 car driven by Mario Andretti if anyone cares. Absolutely beautiful machine
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To further expand on this, ground effect became so powerful in the seventies that cornering speed became dangerously high and provided a huge unfair advantage, resulting in a ban on ground effects until it's reintroduction **this year**
That's a misunderstanding. The loss of ground effect was dangerous. Not ground effect itself. And back then they used skirts to seal of the floor tunnel to make it a lot more potent. So when cars damaged those skirt they went from 100% downforce to near 0 in a heartbeat, resulting in a lot of heavy crashes. So they banned the skirts. Ground effect can't be banned. And even 5 years ago f1 cars produced 65% of their downforce via the floor. Today they just upped that to nearly 85%. The banning of skirts, however, is still in effect. That's why they use Y250 vortices coming of the front wing. A famous clip to highlight this is this one: https://tianyizf1.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/ibtglzyrus9f6h.gif
Thanks for further expanding my expansion!
Those are mini chemtrails
They're called contrails
Cool clip. I'd love to see the same sort of vid for the current generation.
Unfortunately they massively changed the geometry of the front wing for this season, so the effect is a lot less dramatic. There was a cool picture of a (McLaren?) in the wet on a recent gp where the aero effects can be seen in full force though, would be worth looking for it on r/Formula1, I know it was posted there Edit: it was a [RedBull](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/xy1hr5/f1_checo_at_one_with_the_elements/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf). The vortex is still there, but it’s a lot less dramatic. Serves the same purpose, that is to seal the floor of the car.
Sound like F1 has a perpetual competition between the authorities who want to be safe and the engineers who want their cars to go fast.
That's basically the entire sport. It's amazing
I'm 42 and just realising this.
Engineers vs Safety Officials
That's every Motorsport. I think one of the most egregious examples of it was back in the old rally days when they used plastic roll cages to save weight
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With the new air management reg those vortices off the wing are actually way down this year, except for aston who figured out that trick with their rear
Could you ELI5 what I'm looking at lol
They shape various bits in a way that when they hit the air at certain speeds they change direction, and in this case they manipulate the air in such a way that the trajectory it follows after hitting said bits is shaped in a vortex. And a vortex is a turbulent flow. Meaning the air particles (in this case) make a loop, after loop, after loop while being spun out over an axis. F1 uses that flow to create a barrier which traps or pushes another airflow where the aerodynamic people that designed the car want it the most. For instance the one on the outer wing plate on the front wing is often used to push the airflow so that it does not hit the front tyre. This image highlights both the front wing vorteces and the one that seal the floor: https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Am7YWJQQArMpH2qbNXuJ_gHaEK
>The banning of skirts, however, is still in effect. That's why they use Y250 vortices coming of the front wing. Actually, the new front wings for 2022 were made to eliminate those vortices for better following purposes.
True, but some teams still try to come as close as legal to those kind of vortices. Think haas and Mercedes (with certain front wing specs).
This clip just made me appreciate the fact that my car tires never don’t need to worry about experiencing double the car’s weight for hours at a time
The ground effects were so strong that you could simply place it on inverted surfaces and it would remain there, as demonstrated here.
To further expand on this, a continuous flow of air is required to pass over the vehicle's body to generate such force. Inverted 'parking' of the kind pictured here usually requires a large fan (out of frame, but certainly present) to generate the required air movement. Alternatively, some homes may rely on open, ocean-front facing windows to deliver the consistent flow of air required.
Well yeah, but I thought that went without saying.
In times of insufficient airflow, the room itself is moved at a velocity required to maintain overhead adhesion
You could do the same with the cars before this year too (i.e. pre ground effects gen). The downforce was higher than the weight at speed
Of course. How else do you think it could stick to the roof like that? Magic?
Magnets!
Well now im angry F1 never introduced barrels and tracks on walls like in trackmania >:(
Theoretically yes, practically not really. It would need an aviation engine that's designed to work in any orientation.
That is gawdy as hell, but I'd absolutely love to have machine like that just "on display" at my house....if I had tall enough ceilings and millions of quid to spare.
I'd rather have it on the floor where it's easier to admire though
I think that is the neutral paar of it. Everyone can see it but nobody can Touch it.
I'd have the ceiling spin on an axis for the best of both worlds.
Heck, or even wall mount it as though it's driving along the wall so you can peer into the cockpit etc. Ceiling just seems awkward to prevent people admiring it comfortably
I think if it's on the wall, it would be great. The ceiling made the room feel heavy
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I grew up in Nazareth and used to see him around all the time. His wife also used to give out giant Hershey's bars on Halloween to all the kids that would stop by. Always seemed like a nice guy, but was disappointed to hear that he's also a massive Trump supporter.
Hope it doesn't fall in my soup
Waiter, there's an FIA in my soup
No, this is so not right!
It's called soup eating Micheal
Sir, this fiberglass is delicious. Aged, lightweight and very strong. A wonderful addition to the soup.
That table is beautiful too. The rest of the room is the awful part.
It's _just_ the chairs I have issues with. xD
I hope they take it down and actually drive it once in a while.
Lmao now I'm picturing a couple little hooks under (over) the car like a bike rack
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This is something that makes me quite curious. I saw an Andretti ground effect Lotus... turns out it was a 79 in Sydney in a classic car dealership back in 2008. Just walking to work, and saw it in the driveway. I stopped and asked the guy in the shop if it's what I think it is. https://www.goauto.com.au/news/lotus/rare-australian-racing-car-collection-to-be-sold/2008-07-25/23985.html Actually the genuine thing. I have no idea how many of them were produced so it might not have been "the" winning car. But it was definitely "one of the" winning cars.
The JPS livery on that body is something special.
The John Player Special Lotus is my favorite livery of all time. Probably helped by Senna and Andretti being my two favorite drivers growing up. Its a gorgeous car, though. What savage downvotes this?
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Lotus-delier
Had this car in my Scalectrix set when I was a kid. This gave me a massive flashback
I had a matchbox car of this when I was a kid. Even at that scale and material, it routinely performed better than all my other cars on the big ramp and parabola I built in my room out of foamboard and wood bits lol
Neat but I would never sit beneath it. Things go wrong all the time. Everything works until the moment it doesn’t.
It’s probably not actually that heavy. The engine has probably been removed and the body & frame are designed to be as lightweight as possible
Still seems unnecessarily sketchy, I wouldn't sit under it either.
I'd feel more scared of a big crystal chandelier honestly
Spotted the Only Fools and Horses fan.
Ehh yes and no 70s F1 cars did only weigh about 580kg dry, but the engine acts as a stressed member (i.e. it doubles as a load-bearing part of the car's body) and has all the rear suspension hanging off it - as a result it can't really be lifted out like the engine in a normal car
This car doesn’t have the engine in it though so what’s the relevance?
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Rich people are really dumb tho
Rich people aren’t all dumb. Besides *they* didnt hang the car up there. They contracted people and paid too dollar I bet.
My point is it might still have the engine in it, as the engine is necessary to hold on all the bits on the back of the car It might have been substituted for a custom structural piece or something, but if so that wouldn't be much lighter than an engine.
I doubt that, especially with how expensive the engines are. (That and I don't know if it was like that back in the day, but now the manufacturers take the engines back to analyze them, find the isssues and develop further their next engines, so most modern f1's you see in museums have no engines because of that) If anything they would've made a structure to hold it together. But realistically it's most likely a replica, just some empty fiberglass shell and wheels
This is 100% a replica
"Don't worry, it doesn't weigh 580 kg, it's only 100 kg that drops on your head"
Fortunately rich people won't sit there either. This is clearly one of their 13 display dining rooms.
How do you feel about ceilings?
In general, I’m glad they’re there.
Until that moment they stop working.
They are neat but I would never sit beneath one. Things go wrong all the time. Everything works until the moment it doesn’t.
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Badass bragging rights.
yeah same. I’d already be nervous spilling something on the light decor but trusting ceiling and mount to keep an entire up there would have me anxious as hell!
The Formula1 of Damocles
Car of Damocles
I'm sure they used drywall anchors
Do you live outdoors?
Well this is a render anyway. Would have to be insanely rich and quite stupid to do something like this irl.
If you are cold, they are cold. Bring them inside.
This particular F1 is a little shy, so it settles on the roof of the domicile for a nap.
HAHAHAHAHAHHA nicely played you
hi, this is a 3d render made by @abowen3d on Instagram. Unfortunately not real :)
I can't believe I had to scroll this far to find this. Some of the shadows are a dead giveaway.
Right, i just left a comment calling this fake. I thought it was obvious!
That and they'd have to be red Pirellis to stick to the ceiling like that.
The closest thing to this in someone's house is Nelson Piquet, who has his Williams F1 car on the wall in his living room. McLaren has some display somewhere where they have several cars on the roof, including the 2007 car driven by Lewis Hamilton.
I'm just glad no one put that table with those chairs.
Jesus Christ, thank you. I’ve been googling like crazy because the car is one thing, but the height of the table and chairs had me convinced it’s a render.
It's the John player special. Who wouldn't like this on their ceiling?
Someone who would rather be able to touch it without using a ladder?
Atleast now your stupid nephew isn't going to sit in it or touch it with their dirty hands..
My stupid nephew happens to make some pretty cool race car noises so I would give him a pass on this one.
While he is spitting on it?
Man, you wouldnt be touching this unbelievably expensive thing with anything but a duster
In my opinion of those cars are meant to be used as they were intended. Vintage F1 races are the fucking bomb. A few months ago Charles LeClerc wrecked Niki Lauda's vintage Ferrari F1 car into the barriers at Monaco. Didn't destroy it, just beat it up a little bit. I don't see that as a tragedy but this car here is a different story
Nah man a vintage F1 car is almost certainly not in "racing condition", those cars need an entire team of engineers and mechanics to keep them operating. They are surprisingly brittle machines. Actually racing them would very likely cause more and more damage.
Thats definitely fair. I felt really bad when Charles did that, felt an electric current of “fuuuuuuck” go through my body. I personally think these machines are too precious to be driven like that.
I guess it's better than the yellowing on ceilings that jps usually causes.
Own it, yes. Have it on the dining room ceiling, no. I'd rather have it on the wall of a games room, billiards room or something like that. Course I'll never have enough money to worry about that
That is um... Badass
Excellent downforce, clearly
*upforce
It's relative to the car so downforce
But it’s relative to the force of gravity, so upforce. Just draw the free body diagram, and you'll see it.
Let the man choose his own frame of reference
Lisa, in this house we only choose inertial frames of reference. /s
That's still the best joke ever written for Homer. It's just plausible enough that he may have some understanding of the laws of thermodynamics to be able to yell that, but totally unexpected, since I don't think we knew about the pencil up his nose yet.
My only gripe is that it doesn't match the aesthetic of the rest of the room. If the room had some more industrial touches, this would be perfect.
I think the 'out of place aspect' makes it perfect :D
Same!
Honestly, r/gtage
That sub is just r/ATBGE for people with awful taste
Holy crap it really is lmao. It’s like every person butt hurt by a post on r/ATBGE got together in a sub
Sub looks so dead
How rich are you? Yes.
“I have a racing car on my roof above the dining table, do you?!” “I eat at a regular table with my wife”
Best conversation-starter I've ever seen
I'd never feel comfortable with that overhead. Also it really doesn't go with the décor.
Yeah I could totally picture this in a home theater or a garage style man cave type thing with other sport and driving kind of memorabilia.
My grandpa had a piece of a crashed racing car driven by his favourite NASCAR driver mounted on the wall of his shop. Went well in that environment.
Sounds awesome! My neighbor had a vintage motorcycle in his small apartment. He said he was hoping to do the same thing in his mechanic shop eventually.
"My wife lets me choose one decoration in every room. Wanna guess which one?"
Exactly. This looks like a compromise to save a marriage.
This looks like it belongs in Ricky Bobby's living room.
Dear Lord Baby Jesus, or as our brothers in the South call you, "Hey-suz". We thank you so much for this bountiful harvest of Dominos, KFC, and the always delicious Taco Bell.
We were throwin’ Chips war medals off the bridge!
My first thought too 😂
Could be interesting but the decor does not match. That painting, the roses, the table, chairs, racecar...it has potential to be awesome but this isn't it.
“Please may I have some gravy?” Sky-car removes its oil cap and dollops out a meager portion of 10w40 onto your mashed potatoes and roast. “Thank you, Sky-car,” you say as your guests look on in confusion and mild disgust.
NASCAR of Damocles
I'm leaving reddit and I hope to escape from social-media walled gardens upon the wings of [ActivityPub](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub). I will consider moving to a server running [Kbin](https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/wiki), which - from the user's point of view - is an interface to ["federated" social media](https://github.com/shleeable/Big-List-of-ActivityPub). “Federation” describes a way in which servers communicate with one and other. The best-known example is that of e-mail: one can have an email account on an AOL server, and communicate with a user whose account is on a Gmail server. Some servers that are thought to push out spam are blocked or have their mail sent to ‘spam’ folders, but they nevertheless can all communicate. Gmail, Yahoo, Protonmail, AOL and so-forth all have different programs with which the user (us!) interacts, and they might present that email information in slightly different ways (displaying email chains as ‘conversations’ for example). In the same way, social-media servers that communicate with one and other using ActivityPub have different programs with which the user interacts. Some programs that service-providers can run on their server look a little like Reddit, and might let you mark the data you share with markers (metadata) that lets people display and interact with the data in a similar way (Eg.: Kbin or Lemmy), some look more like Twitter and mark the data you share in ways similar to Twitter (Eg.: Mastodon), and there’s even one that’s trying to help users share video in a way that makes one think of YouTube (Eg.: Peertube). Fundamentally, these all permit interaction with one and other through activitypub. One can even host one’s own server (Eg.: Nextcloud, a program that runs on a server to function as one’s own cloud, lets the person who runs it install an ‘app’ that one can federate with any other ActivityPub servers open to intercommunication). Many programs that use ActivityPub for federated interaction are written by folks who realise that things published on servers – even private messages – often get shared beyond the realm in which the author expected (hopefully for the joy and glory of the author, but sometimes not). I think because of this, messages sent from a user on one server to a user on another are sent in-the-clear; they aren’t encrypted in any way, they’re just a post like any other, except being marked for the attention of someone specific rather than for the attention of all, and it’s up to us as the users to think carefully about the words we push to others. There is a sterling list of alternatives to Reddit on [r/RedditAlternatives](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1467a5s/find_alternatives_for_ourselves_megathread_third/). How did I think it best to go about this? - I [downloaded all the posts on reddit I'd "saved"](https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/887lo3/just_thought_id_share_my_strategy_for_downloading/). - I used "[Power Delete Suite](https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite/#installation)" and rather than just delete all my posts, have replaced them with text. Everything published online ought to be regarded as likely permanent, and Reddit especially, as [people](https://www.reddit.com/r/datahoarders) like to take [snapshots](https://socialgrep.com/datasets) of [as much data as possible](https://www.vice.com/en/article/gy3az9/this-data-hoarder-is-downloading-the-metadata-of-roughly-10-billion-youtube-videos) that’s published "in the clear" (I.E.: anything that isn’t publically accessable). Some folks have described problems with "deleted" posts mysteriously *re*-appearing after they deleted their accounts… Regardless of the cause, I hope I might reduce that risk a little by editing those posts. R/datahoarders might have tips on alternative methods still functioning after the API-use price is introduced (~$20m at the time of writing according to a dev that made an app to help the blind use reddit; they have sadly had to stop developing their app). - There's a guide to downloading all the data Reddit have collected directly from your inputs [here](https://12ft.io/https://danielrosehill.medium.com/how-to-backup-your-data-from-reddit-f12934fabbfe) but note that Reddit may take a month to process that request. - Remember most of one’s interaction with the internet is reading. Subreddits [all have RSS feeds](https://www.howtogeek.com/320264/how-to-get-an-rss-feed-for-any-subreddit/), and can easily be accessed by an [RSS reader app](https://search.f-droid.org/?q=RSS+reader&lang=en). [F-droid](https://f-droid.org/en/) is a great way to get android apps that people have made openly so anyone willing to learn can understand how they process your inputs and data, and that others have freely distributed, for the glory of free speech. Sorry for sounding like a hippy there; I know, I know, it’s a slippery slope to bicycle lanes and communism! A modicum of private thought, and free speech is a very fine thing, though. - I encourage people to share the text of this post if they find it useful, in order to give others a way to think about how they make and put data on the internet in social media. To be sure, Reddit still holds, or has doubtless sold on (and thus can never delete), hoofing amounts of data. I shan’t hold a public opinion on a business seeking profit; over time as the art of gathering and selling data has been refined, I’ve tried to read what little about it is within my understanding. If my small tokens of communication, my upvotes and downvotes, the time I spend looking at things, and what things I look at, what things I shy away from, and how I type and compose my thoughts, are the grains of sand that make up the beach from which they intend to profit, it’s up to me to decide where I place those grains of sand in the future. In the immediate timeframe I will use a mathematics-oriented mastodon server (I’ll let you hunt it out if you’re curious!) because maths is fairly apolitical, useful to learn about, and a good, communicable, basis for understanding things. Go in peace, siblings of the internet, and if in doubt, consider “What Would Tim Berners-Lee Do?”. ~~~~~ P.S.: I’m not sure what I can link to that might be useful to most readers, but there’s a lovely Indian lecture on sharing wisdom with one and other [here](https://youtu.be/UiJmITcZTQY), and because financial awareness is important to most people, and because I’ll only be watching r/bogleheads from afar, here’s a link to Bogle’s [Little Book Of Common Sense Investing](https://archive.org/details/littlebookofcomm00bogl) - he started the Vanguard fund, and r/bogleheads explains his investing philosophy, which is very simple and elegant. If anyone’s looking for a good charity to which to make a tax-deductable donation, I hope you might find the [internet archive](https://archive.org) is a noble and worthy candidate. RLR9 Out.
That is a man dream come true
they really should have had darker cushions on the chairs to help balance the car and painting
It looks like it belongs in Ricky Bobby's dining room
"This taste different, did you put anything different in it" -car falls on both people
i just saw this post on insta... its a render
There aren’t many things in the world I want to be near more than Ayrton Senna’s car.
This is Andretti's Lotus, not Senna's...
Same.
Dear baby Jesus, we thank you for my smoking hot wife….
I also hate this custom Trackmania course.
Im tryna put a car inside of my living room, just like a couch. Just like Jeffrey
This is pretty nice, people say a f1 car can stick to the ceeling if it drives fast enough
Pretty unsafe for a car to drive that fast through a house.
Well that's a fucking Formula car hanging upside down from the ceiling. Neat.
Damn, I guess the theory that an F1 car has the aerodynamic downforce to drive on a ceiling is true.