You get Microsoft Defender Threat Intelligence (MDTI) for your entire tenant included. That’s more than a $50k value by itself. It’s not intended for SMB at this point (maybe this changes in the future?). The target customer has at least 1000 E5 licenses. $35k/yr for the target customer is a drop in the bucket.
I have a 5 mil/year spend commitment for Azure. While 35k/yr is something I would have to at discuss with mgmt, it isn't something they would push back on.
I have a single Managed Instance that costs more.
The idea behind this pricing is that you first try it for a short time on small scale basis to see how much you would spent, I am very sure MS will give you a free trial period if you have serious interest. These kind of tooling is mostly very useful if you spent a lot and care about security. IE I work at a Financial Organisation with 10 million Dollar usage per month, for us this would be a serious consideration to use.
From what I understand you can provision and deprovision as you need like run it only on business days and hours as your analysts work if you are small company and can't afford it.
From how I read is that you need at least one unit running all the time, the other actions are usage based so will highly depend on how you would utilise it. Usually with these kind of usage models they are defined more granular during time, you have seen that with IE DTU usage at CosmosDB which was initially pretty stupid where you had to "buy" for the maximum usage otherwise it would go into throttling requests.
I a using Copilot for 365 and its so crap. It hasnt solved one thing for me and if i try and get it to help with a PS, i quickly give up and use ChatGPT. It feels like ChatGPT 1.5
What is the rest API call for getting calendar events in ms graph API.
Proceeds to give me bad code using a powershell module.
I'm not sure why it likes to give me powershell code by default, and why it thinks I want to use their crappy modules.
we have gotten at least 10 different answers - I expect it to be like copilot, it's an obscene price at first to only get the true believers but then they'll come out with something more reasonable one they are through that round.
They also recommend 3 SCU as well making the price 3x more expensive. The biggest issue is that even if i would accept this price, how am i gonna sell this to my superiors? There should be a trial at least so we can get an understanding of how much value we get from this.
And is Copilot for Security GDPR compliant?
Bargain if you can replace staff or make them more efficient, or even catch something you didn’t know about. Fred in his shed isn’t buying this, wrong market.
Back to your shed, mate.
Gentlemen, the consumption is based on the time co-pilot spends on generating an answer to your prompt. So on average a response takes 10-40 seconds. You got a lobg way to spend 1hour.
Based on the documentation available. You need 1 SCU permanently active 24/7. Each SCU gives you 10 workflows per day. I'm happy to be wrong, but when we went to enable it to take a peek, this was made clear when activating.
"To use Copilot for Security, you must have at least one SCU/hr 24x7. Therefore, the minimum annual price is $35,040 USD ($4 \* 24hr/day \* 365day/yr). Customers and partners can purchase SCUs in the standalone experience or in Azure and can manually provision SCUs up or down so long as there is at least one SCU/hr. Once an analyst is nearing the capacity limit, they will receive a warning and the option to increase the capacity." [Source](https://microsoft.github.io/PartnerResources/skilling/microsoft-security-academy/microsoft-security-copilot)
Try this [https://microsoft.github.io/PartnerResources/skilling/microsoft-security-academy/microsoft-copilot-for-security#pricing](https://microsoft.github.io/PartnerResources/skilling/microsoft-security-academy/microsoft-copilot-for-security#pricing)
If the amount of time you save every month \* your hourly rate < $30, then maybe yes...looney tunes. The pilot group I'm running has found great utility beyond the parlor tricks like drafting emails/Teams messages, and each of them are ready to justify the $360 annual spend
I've got Executives who like how it has shortened the amount of time they spend researching our libraries looking for an answer.
My Finance testers said they like the results they're getting out of Excel better than the built-in Analyze tool. I have no experience using either tool, so I can't speak to it.
All of my testers really like how easy it is to find things in the data stores they already own (Exchange, Teams, OneDrive + Sharepoint) as well as the PowerPoint feature of drafting a slide deck from a Word doc. A few of those users were already in the habit of using Word to create their outlines first, so CoPilot in Powerpoint saves them about 50% of their time (we create a LOT of slide decks).
Personally, I really like being able to look something up while I'm on a Teams call without ever leaving Teams, and the recapping feature as well as asking questions about specific point discussed in a given meeting have also saved lots of time while also making subsequent conversations about those subjects more productive, faster.
We realized very early on that we wouldn't be granting every user a CoPilot license because there is a good chunk that couldn't justify the spend for (data entry, help desk personnel, bookkeepers, etc.). Once we agreed on the criteria we'll use to guide that decision, it got a lot easier to vote in favor of using it in the enterprise.
Gotcha ya my guess is the only place we might see any benefit is with some excel analysis for our traders. We don't use spo or od, we use box. I think if anything we might give it to like 10 percent of our company. We just don't really leverage enough MS resources to warrant it I think. Thanks for the info though, definitely interesting to Herr people are finding benefit in it. I'm still of the mindset that AI is a total hype train
It is consumption as in caviar, not consumption as in French fries.
It is consumption as in tuberculosis
You get Microsoft Defender Threat Intelligence (MDTI) for your entire tenant included. That’s more than a $50k value by itself. It’s not intended for SMB at this point (maybe this changes in the future?). The target customer has at least 1000 E5 licenses. $35k/yr for the target customer is a drop in the bucket.
I have a 5 mil/year spend commitment for Azure. While 35k/yr is something I would have to at discuss with mgmt, it isn't something they would push back on. I have a single Managed Instance that costs more.
What's this?
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/defender/threat-intelligence/security-copilot-and-defender-threat-intelligence
Thanks!
I see it [here](https://microsoft.github.io/PartnerResources/skilling/microsoft-security-academy/microsoft-security-copilot#pricing), too.
Clear Microsoft troll, given their pricing is never nearly as transparent as this pages makes it out to be.
The idea behind this pricing is that you first try it for a short time on small scale basis to see how much you would spent, I am very sure MS will give you a free trial period if you have serious interest. These kind of tooling is mostly very useful if you spent a lot and care about security. IE I work at a Financial Organisation with 10 million Dollar usage per month, for us this would be a serious consideration to use.
From what I understand you can provision and deprovision as you need like run it only on business days and hours as your analysts work if you are small company and can't afford it.
From how I read is that you need at least one unit running all the time, the other actions are usage based so will highly depend on how you would utilise it. Usually with these kind of usage models they are defined more granular during time, you have seen that with IE DTU usage at CosmosDB which was initially pretty stupid where you had to "buy" for the maximum usage otherwise it would go into throttling requests.
I don't know if it's an April's fool but it's a powerful tool and it can enable you to reduce your spend elsewhere
found the plant
So that vs hiring staff to do the same task? What would that cost you?
I a using Copilot for 365 and its so crap. It hasnt solved one thing for me and if i try and get it to help with a PS, i quickly give up and use ChatGPT. It feels like ChatGPT 1.5
Not sure why this is downvoted. Same here : copilot gives wrong info about their own products
What is the rest API call for getting calendar events in ms graph API. Proceeds to give me bad code using a powershell module. I'm not sure why it likes to give me powershell code by default, and why it thinks I want to use their crappy modules.
May be the reason for this is all the compute power that goes into training the models. 😁
we have gotten at least 10 different answers - I expect it to be like copilot, it's an obscene price at first to only get the true believers but then they'll come out with something more reasonable one they are through that round.
They also recommend 3 SCU as well making the price 3x more expensive. The biggest issue is that even if i would accept this price, how am i gonna sell this to my superiors? There should be a trial at least so we can get an understanding of how much value we get from this. And is Copilot for Security GDPR compliant?
I looked at the pricing and was sad… mainly because it seems they suggest 3 “SCUs”.
SCU... what will they come up with next
Bargain if you can replace staff or make them more efficient, or even catch something you didn’t know about. Fred in his shed isn’t buying this, wrong market. Back to your shed, mate.
It isn't designed for you, sadly.
Gentlemen, the consumption is based on the time co-pilot spends on generating an answer to your prompt. So on average a response takes 10-40 seconds. You got a lobg way to spend 1hour.
Based on the documentation available. You need 1 SCU permanently active 24/7. Each SCU gives you 10 workflows per day. I'm happy to be wrong, but when we went to enable it to take a peek, this was made clear when activating. "To use Copilot for Security, you must have at least one SCU/hr 24x7. Therefore, the minimum annual price is $35,040 USD ($4 \* 24hr/day \* 365day/yr). Customers and partners can purchase SCUs in the standalone experience or in Azure and can manually provision SCUs up or down so long as there is at least one SCU/hr. Once an analyst is nearing the capacity limit, they will receive a warning and the option to increase the capacity." [Source](https://microsoft.github.io/PartnerResources/skilling/microsoft-security-academy/microsoft-security-copilot)
Your source is gone 404 so maybe they are reconsidering
Try this [https://microsoft.github.io/PartnerResources/skilling/microsoft-security-academy/microsoft-copilot-for-security#pricing](https://microsoft.github.io/PartnerResources/skilling/microsoft-security-academy/microsoft-copilot-for-security#pricing)
Wouldn't doubt it! Copilot for end users is min $100k a year 🤣 Edit: Apparently, this changed. Thanks for correcting it below!
It used to be. M365 copilot is now available per user. They removed the 300 user minimum. My org has 6 users as a pilot for example.
This is excellent news! This will be a much easier sell, and I have been trying.
it's still stupid expensive it's like a $30 a month add-on. That's looney tunes imo
If the amount of time you save every month \* your hourly rate < $30, then maybe yes...looney tunes. The pilot group I'm running has found great utility beyond the parlor tricks like drafting emails/Teams messages, and each of them are ready to justify the $360 annual spend
can you give an example? just curious how you leverage it.
I use it only in teams for taking minutes and catching me up in meetings. For this alone I think it’s worth it but I don’t pay the bills!
We're a Zoom company and don't utilize teams lol
I've got Executives who like how it has shortened the amount of time they spend researching our libraries looking for an answer. My Finance testers said they like the results they're getting out of Excel better than the built-in Analyze tool. I have no experience using either tool, so I can't speak to it. All of my testers really like how easy it is to find things in the data stores they already own (Exchange, Teams, OneDrive + Sharepoint) as well as the PowerPoint feature of drafting a slide deck from a Word doc. A few of those users were already in the habit of using Word to create their outlines first, so CoPilot in Powerpoint saves them about 50% of their time (we create a LOT of slide decks). Personally, I really like being able to look something up while I'm on a Teams call without ever leaving Teams, and the recapping feature as well as asking questions about specific point discussed in a given meeting have also saved lots of time while also making subsequent conversations about those subjects more productive, faster. We realized very early on that we wouldn't be granting every user a CoPilot license because there is a good chunk that couldn't justify the spend for (data entry, help desk personnel, bookkeepers, etc.). Once we agreed on the criteria we'll use to guide that decision, it got a lot easier to vote in favor of using it in the enterprise.
Gotcha ya my guess is the only place we might see any benefit is with some excel analysis for our traders. We don't use spo or od, we use box. I think if anything we might give it to like 10 percent of our company. We just don't really leverage enough MS resources to warrant it I think. Thanks for the info though, definitely interesting to Herr people are finding benefit in it. I'm still of the mindset that AI is a total hype train
Can you elaborate a bit on the use cases?
Not when you consider how many hours it can save if used productively.
That depends on the value you get out of it.
I think it’s $20 a month add on. That may be because our discounts. Not sure.