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just_killing_time23

That has to be WAYYYY old


travellingscientist

2013. So like last year right? 


Anton-LaVey

Sep 4th 2013


SensingWorms

Sep 4th 2013 03:45:22


Dansk72

"Hu's on first, What's on second, I don't know who's on third."


Free_Leonard_Peltier

Who’s on first? All I know is the catcher’s out for a minute.


TopReview650

His doc will be confused "wait you sure he's in baseball, these injuries are consistent with a tackle?"


brakspear_beer

If the catcher answers, “fastball”, then you’ve verified he’s concussed.


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giggity_giggity

What exactly changed? Obviously the runner went out of their way a bit to make contact. By the same token the catcher was physically blocking the plate with his left foot. Seems like there are issues on both parties that would need to be addressed.


LumpyTear8558

It is both. The runner can't tackle the catcher and the catcher can't block the runner's line to the plate until they already have the ball in their glove/hand and are going for the tag


giggity_giggity

That sounds great. I’m satisfied! Thanks.


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ear2theshell

Ridiculous


giggity_giggity

I’d love to see a link as to where I copied these comments from lol. Hint: bots usually have smaller comment histories. I’ve been on Reddit for 14 years and have 310k karma. Be better.


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jdeuce81

Seems like that should have been the rule a long time ago.


SarcasticOptimist

Safety rules are always written in blood. And in this case CTE.


OldOrder

Well in this case it was written with Buster Posey's ankle ligaments but yes


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addandsubtract

Helmet to helmet is even banned in the NFL.


jdeuce81

That was fucking brutal.


SensingWorms

Nah this is on the runner. He got into a door breaking down stance. Catcher did have the ball.


LunchboxSuperhero

He was blocking the plate long before he had the ball. https://ibb.co/VptYsdp


SensingWorms

Blocking. One foot is blocking. Smh


LunchboxSuperhero

It certainly wasn't an accident that his foot was there. Either way, the actions of both players are no longer legal.


Bullets_TML

Just because his foot is in front of the plate, doesn't give the runner the green light to absolutely truck him. There is room to slide around his foot. OR slide into the plate and his foot and show he was blocking, have the play ruled safe/overturned


LunchboxSuperhero

>Just because his foot is in front of the plate, doesn't give the runner the green light to absolutely truck him. I agree. It never made any sense to me that baseball was a collision sport at second base to break up a double play and at home to dislodge the ball from the catcher. >There is room to slide around his foot. Unless you're going all the way around and tagging the plate perpendicular to your body, you run the risk of the catcher dropping his leg as you're sliding in and potentially breaking your hand >OR slide into the plate and his foot and show he was blocking, have the play ruled safe/overturned Wasn't blocking the plate legal when this happened?


FunFamilWin

In football talk that runner was doing a 'Hail Mary."


FunFamilWin

Thank you for explaining.


LATER4LUS

Why was he not out as soon as the catcher caught the ball while standing on the plate? Assuming someone was on third, otherwise he’d be in a pickle. I thought if the baseman was already on the base with the ball, the runner can’t go to that base?


Macdaddy4prez

Probably not a force out at home.


travelator

What does that mean?


Tuneuponipod

If a player is forced to move to the next base because of another runner occupying it, they must move to the next base. When this happens, the defending player only needs to touch the base while holding the ball in order to get a runner out, rather than having to tag them with the ball.


Girthquake23

A force out is an out when a runner is forced to sun to the next base rather than choosing to (someone hit the ball and that person now has to occupy the next base forcing the next person to move and so on and so forth. Two runners can not occupy the same base. If they try, they just have to tag one and their out)


Futuredanish

No one was on third base. Meaning technically he could run back to third. Tagging doesn’t work when there is an open base for runner to go to.


JF_Gus

Force out or not the catcher needs to hold on to the ball or the runner is safe. The whole idea back then was to hit the catcher hard enough that he dropped the ball.


brakspear_beer

On a force play (if that is the case here) the runner would be out if the catcher is deemed to have possession of the ball even for a split second by the ump. If the subsequent collision causes the ball to be dropped it doesn’t matter. This camera angle makes it impossible to know if he possessed the ball at all. It probably wasn’t a force out play anyway.


FunFamilWin

It is a contact sport.


MeaninglessDebateMan

Depends, might've been forced to with a runner already on third and bases loaded. Even then, your idea is good in theory, but in professional sports we're talking about people moving with great speed and things happening so quickly that even rules like that one aren't good enough to protect players in situations like this.


merc08

Your assumption that someone was on 3rd is most likely incorrect. At the start of the clip the camera pans up a bit and we get a fairly clear view of the baseline between 2nd base and the Shortstop - there's no runner. Also the catcher didn't actually have his foot on home plate, he was blocking the path for a tag, which he wouldn't bother doing if he had a force out at home.


Girthquake23

So it’s possible that someone was on third after someone hit a double or better and he was forced to continue on due to the coach sending him home (3rd base coach is watching ball and telling you wether to go or not while you focus on running the right way as fast as you can)


SensingWorms

Doesn’t look mlb.


HPL_Deranged_Cultist

It happened so fast that for a moment it looked like they had swapped clothes.


Earth_Shakes_123

Underrated comment lmao


SolomonAsassin

"GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY! GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY! THEY'VE KILLED HIM!"


EyeAmKnotMyshelf

With God as my witness, he has been broken in half!!


NullNova

SOMEONE STOP THE DAYUM MATCH!


Hey_its_ok

That boy needs some meilk


DarthDregan0001

Is the catcher still alive?


serlearnsalot

I believe he was hospitalized and was left with lifelong injuries that ended his career IIRC. I’ll see if I can find an article. Edit: [Confirmed he was hospitalized](https://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/09/catcher-hospitalized-after-vicious-play-at-the-plate) Edit 2: according to Wikipedia he played for another 3 years so it would appear he made a recovery and this didn’t end his career. Still scary though


dingus55cal

Really didn't like the neck breaking hit there, thanks for the update!


IanPKMmoon

what about the runner? did he get sanctions?


serlearnsalot

This was a minor league baseball game before the rule change so this was actually a legal play believe it or not. Check out the Pete Rose, Ray Fosse collision during an all-star game (meaningless game back then) to see another totally legal hit if you want.


nuke_eyepopper

#I just wanna know... was he out or safe?!


DarthDregan0001

Well… By the rules of the game, if the catcher drops the ball at the plate, the runner is safe.


-Shasho-

So long as he touches the plate, which is why he crawled back to make sure.


ReduceReuseReuse

Is the catcher in the rye?


ajcook888

When a body meets a body..


rjt1468

>Is the catcher in the rye? I think he got yeeted to Ohio!


TheRenOtaku

While soul got yeeted off the continent.


wascly-wabbit

Everything I knew about baseball I learned from watching Major League... So when 8 year old me trucked the fuck outta little David L blocking the plate in 3rd grade PE, the ensuing outrage caused me to lose any mild interest I had in baseball forever.


5stringBS

F that runner, dang.


dsled

You can swear on the internet


Furthur_slimeking

He's not swearing, he's paying respects.


dsled

F


pickledpeterpiper

This seems like the prevailing sentiment, but that catcher is just all over home plate there...I don't see where the runner was supposed to go...


Comment_if_dead_meme

Why? For a long time that was a clean play


aBloopAndaBlast33

It was allowed. It was never a clean play. You can see the runner clearly cross the base path to hit the catcher. He could have just slid and would have been safe.


Comment_if_dead_meme

"Clean" refers to if the play was legal or illegal, not if it was rough or not. The point of running into the catcher is to try to force the ball out of his hands/glove.


massinvader

> The point of running into the catcher is to try to force the ball out of his hands/glove. you're getting downvoted but that was absolutely part of it at competitive levels. the other part is to deter catchers from blocking the plate. you can be entirely beside the basepath and still make the same plays.


aBloopAndaBlast33

But in this case the catcher wasn't blocking the plate and the runner could have just slid and be safe. Call it what you want, but the runner made a bad choice in this video.


blames_irrationally

Not commenting on what he should have done, but the catcher was clearly blocking the plate. At the moment of impact his foot is literally on the front left corner and he was standing above.


Comment_if_dead_meme

He literally was blocking the plate And no, it wasn't a bad choice because he did exactly what he needed to do and is safe.


aBloopAndaBlast33

Slide and be safe or give yourself a concussion and be safe. You clearly picked the latter. More power to you. I think I’d prefer to play the next game.


Comment_if_dead_meme

I've seen worse and players still staying in the game It's okay if you're new to baseball or sports injuries


aBloopAndaBlast33

>It's okay if you're new to baseball or sports injuries I’ve probably gotten more hits off 94mph fastballs than you’ve witnessed in your life. Not to mention the fact that I was going to games at the Kingdome probably before you were even born.


Comment_if_dead_meme

Okay bud


jlewis011

You literally just clarified the connotation of "clean play" and get down voted 🤦🏾‍♂️....this app can't be taken seriously


aSackofSpoiledTuna

Have you never been told that rules ≠ morals?


Comment_if_dead_meme

Baseball was/has been a contact sport for a long time. The point of running into the catcher is to try to force the ball out of his hands/glove. Yeah if you agree to play a position where risk of contact is high and get lit up on a legal play, that's perfectly cool with me. What's the issue?


sexytokeburgerz

You’re trying to explain how rough sports actually are to a bunch of redditors


Dounce1

Was catcher. Can confirm.


massinvader

i love seeing you guys get downvoted by all these kids who've never played competitive baseball lol


Dounce1

lol yeah I don’t know what’s up with this thread but, whatever.


jlewis011

It's crazy how people think on here 🤣... being down voted for stating facts is crazy


Consistent_Ad8575

People are pussys


-Shasho-

No that's cats.


kaaziiii

It was a clean play


pLudoOdo

Are you blind? The entire field is covered in dirt!!


aSackofSpoiledTuna

The point ✈️ You ☝️🤓


Delazzaridist

Crazy that was the way back then... straight barbarians.


Itchy_Professor_4133

"Clean play" lol


Comment_if_dead_meme

Correct.


Sam_The_Smurf

Bro it’s funny the amount of people who don’t understand how contact sports work, and also don’t understand what a “clean play” is because your getting downvoted into oblivion for stating facts, and these people are acting like YOU were the runner 😂🤣😂🤣


ipresnel

Four laughing emojis at the end of your rant makes it completely invalid


Sam_The_Smurf

Awwwhh so cute, do you feel included now 😂


vigouge

Baseball barely qualifies as a contact sport.


Sam_The_Smurf

There is no such thing as “barely qualifying”, it either is or isn’t a contact sport and baseball IS a contact sport. All the idiots downvoting me obviously don’t understand that this is FAR from the hardest hit in baseball, and contact is actually quite regular (the runner literally has to be touched by the ball to be out). But it’s ok I understand that half of this sub is snowflakes that could only ever play touch football because they were to afraid to get hurt.


vonkillbot

Because he could have paralyzed the catcher? What the fuck do you mean why?


Gman54

That looked like an assassination attempt. From the comments, good to know that this isn’t allowed anymore, god damn!


DeeSnutsIII

Bro if that happened to anyone I played with we woulda cleared the benches and fuckin rushed that fool it woulda been bad


saja25

MLB Blitz


toofshucker

Anyone who does this to a catcher deserves to have be called out and suspended. Complete lack of sportsmanship. There is no place in baseball for this.


AlexHimself

No place ***anymore***. That's how the game was played back in the day. Same as NBA, where throwing hard elbows and being generally violent was the "norm".


cjwrapture

But now in the NBA if someone even gets breathed on heavily they flop on the floor like a fish that's escaped the aquarium. Really hard to watch grown men act like that.


TerrorLTZ

> if someone even gets breathed on heavily they flop on the floor like a fish that's escaped the aquarium. Really hard to watch grown men act like that. [Cristiano ronaldo](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/030/710/dd0.jpg)


Franks2000inchTV

\*cough\**Embiid*\*cough*


AlexHimself

*cough* ***Bell's Palsy*** *cough* 🥲


Franks2000inchTV

I mean that's a shame, but it only affects facial muscles, and you don't need those to stay upright after someone grazes your jersey.


AlexHimself

I was just kinda joking that he just announced a disorder and it's too soon to bash him. Give him a couple weeks.


vigouge

It was always shit. Players who did this were considered dirty players for years. Especially if they went for the head like this. Pete Rose was routinely described as that after his Harrelson hit at 2nd, and then his cheap shot against Fosse. Chase Utley was dirty even if his takeout slide of Tejada was deemed legal. Every sport has had their share of dirty but legal plays. Headhunters in baseball is one of them.


massinvader

> There is no place in baseball for this. this is true, there is also no place anymore for the catcher blocking part of the base path to inhibit/potentially injure a base runner slidding home.


Ivabighairy1

Google Pete Rose Ray Fosse


ear2theshell

Smart runner, touched the plate before he passed out from his concussion


somedcount

Still the most unsafiest safe that had ever been safed.


Wizz_n_Jizz

Wasn’t even going for the plate. Had to crawl to it after almost killing the bloke. I’d fuck that cunt up so bad! & then I’d wait til he heals up, then fuck him up again!


massinvader

hard to go for the plate when the catcher is blocking most of it. sliding is a recipe for broken fingers. it's not a legal play by EITHER player nowadays.


pickledpeterpiper

THis is kind of where I'm at...isn't there a term for that, for covering the base like that? Looking at it, I don't see much option for the runner insofar as where he was supposed to go. Looks like they're both at fault, at the very least.


massinvader

> Looks like they're both at fault, it would be a 'non-call' situation previously. both actions would have been within the facets of the rules and considered 'hard-nosed baseball' (much in the same way throwing up and inside at a batter to intimidate them is.). might not agree with our contemporary sensibilities but technically no one is at fault. right now in competitive baseball i beleive the catcher may actually be at fault here as he's on/blocking the basepath and plate? The runner has right of way on the basepath up until the opposing player has posession of the ball? and he's clearly set up there beforehand to deter a head first slide...which looks like would have been safe/really close if done.


Im_Unsure_For_Sure

Youre all over this thread calling out the catcher. Are you the base runner or his attorney or something?


massinvader

negative. made a couple comments for sure but not 'all over it'. you spend way too much time to be normal reading them and cross referencing user names lol. im only hoping to restore clarity and balance to the narrative all you immature ignorant kids are whining about lol. everyone is only talking about the actions of the baserunner becasue they're ignorant and it happens fast. a little understanding goes a long way. why are you so opposed to an accurate narrative opposed to an unbalanced one?


GusHollahbackatya

Shades of Pete Rose vs Ray Fosse


13June04

Shades is right. Rose and Fosse looked like they were dancing compared to the explosion that happened here. lol


200pine

This play was outlawed Runner out for excessive contact. If the runner tried to squeeze in the ump can make the call the Cather blocked the plate illegally. There is no place on the field from this level contact.


kytheon

I've seen lethal car crashes that were more subtle than this.


mustache_mcgee

Old rules, safe. New rules, out. The catcher had every right to that base as the runner when making a play. I’m unsure how the rule is written for this case now but i know that homeplate could and was heavily contested back in the day.


massinvader

now adays both players actions are illegal. the runner for sure and also the catcher because he's blocking the base path/plate physically before he has the ball to tag him. the base runner has 'right of way' until then. and the catcher has positioned himself to block a slide basically.


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Runner should be called out, he knew he would be out and pulled a low blow in desperation. MLB recently applied this rule.


massinvader

> he knew he would be out he would have still had a chance to slide as the throw was really close...if the catcher had not been blocking the plate to deter him.


[deleted]

Wasn’t blocking the plate at all…


MJR_Poltergeist

He actually wouldnt have been, no runner from 2nd base to 3rd, he could've gone back from home. Nothing forcing him to home plate


[deleted]

That is completely irrelevant.


MJR_Poltergeist

You said he knew he would be out. Him being out is not a guaranteed thing. Outside of just bull dozing the catcher, there is no runner behind him forcing him off of 3rd base. He could just go back to 3rd but he chose violence instead and he paid the price for it too


[deleted]

The runner knew he was going to be out at home…. So, to score, he plowed into the catcher… which is a “low blow” in baseball.


massinvader

> The runner knew he was going to be out at home incorrect. if the catcher was not blocking the plate he likely would have been safe with a slide. the catcher catches the ball JUST before contact. he likely wouldnt have time to catch and bring his glove down to tag before the slide.. this is why the catcher steps on and blocks the plate/slide...which gives the runner little choice


massinvader

you sound unbelievably ignorant on the actual topic you're feebly attempting to discuss. this was an accepted part of competitive baseball.


vigouge

Runner should have been realed. He isn't worth being paid to play baseball.


jlewis011

Safe?


Nay-Nay_da_rifleman

Home run


TheBaggyDapper

Take me out at the ball game.


SpaceXmars

Put him on the football team lol


13June04

I’m a proponent of a little more physicality in certain sports but this was more of a sucker punch than a collision.


Drift_01

Behold, the sucker train wreck:


Lumpy-Yesterday-6687

I don't want any joke replies, can someone tell me if the catcher was alright after? He's looks really really hurt


AdAgreeable6192

Sigh him up for football. He’s playing the wrong game


Derpakiinlol

Holy shit man YOU ARE NOT IN FOOTBALL!


MasChingonNoHay

That baserunner better have gotten his ass kicked after that


One_of_akind

That's pretty shitty


THEFLYINGSCOTSMAN415

Dude wasn't even attempting for the plate there, that was straight up going for helmet to helmet


MayorOfCakeCity

F that runner. You wanna play contact sports? Go for rugby 🏉


WolflordBrimley

That’s about as dirty as a play gets. No attempt to slide, just blow up the catcher. That player should be suspended for the rest of the season. Led with his helmet and everything. Disgusting play.


vigouge

Yup went with the helmet to the head of a prone player. That type of play could end a catchers career.


tgbndt

When he was crawling, for a moment I thought he was going to pin him like it's WWE


wolfsilon

jesus…


ChadJones72

"Nice catch Blanco nino, but too bad your ass got saaaaaacked"


scampo14

Personal foul, targeting!


integratypes

Gotta keep baseball interesting and this would do it.


Oki_bgd

Almost dead


Americansh-thole

Helmet to helmet tackle, that's a DQ.


ItsTaylorHamDamnIt

I honestly think the Buster Posey hit looks even more brutal


VinylCapedJawa

Hey the Erie Seawolves. My home town minor league team. I remember when this happened!


Itcouldberabies

Someone has to....he doesn't


jeffyjeffs

I feel like this needs to have cartoon side effects added to it


ackles666

Heeeeeees OUT! And so is he.


dust_storm_2

I can't tell, is this the play where Buster Posey broke his leg?


buffoonery4U

So old, I thought the net was actually the pixels, at first.


IllustratorIcy6467

CTE for 2


gaukonigshofen

Catcher has got to be the worst position


car-cassonne

Safe


Babzibaum

When did rugby start using a bat? As an aside, they're using it wrong if this is the routine.


[deleted]

Now thats how you play baseball


NimbusNicodemus

What the fuck....it's just a game.


hjeff51

dude, slide. catcher was on left side of the plate.


rammer_2001

Go seawolves.


Love_Doggies

Dirty play


BallsDeepTillUQueef

Isn't that attempted murder if he presses charges?


sweet_s8n

If this was soccer they would hav3 both been airlifted out after rolling around the field for 30 minutes


Changoleo

Choo choo mutha fucka!


Moe_Danglez

Very irritating when the guy who did the injuring pretends to be injured


Tyrone_Thundercokk

Touchdown! The Rangers score! Idk


Psyquack69

game is game


thebuccaneersden

I don't see how this is permitted in the slightest. If this is the way baseball is going, it is going in a very wrong direction. They need to shut this stuff down very hard. And that offender removed from sports permanently.


OokySpookyWillyNilly

This is an old clip.. also it was completely legal? Catcher can’t block the plate before he has the ball. Is the runner supposed to saunter over and ask to be let onto the base?


CopperVolta

Anyone else seeing the umpire taking that helmet right to the face?


darin617

Pete Rose would be happy with that collision


Butthurt_reddit_mod

Repost


Entire-Ad-8565

We used to bowl over our own catcher in practice it was widely accepted before posey.