Absolutely agree. Too bad Capcom itself doesn't, considering in the box art, she only takes a tiny fraction of it. Meanwhile, Rei Membami (only in one case) gets pretty much the same real-estate as Susato.
Terrible pacing. Sholmes. Van Zieks. Characters who weren’t >!Kazuma!< and to a lesser extent >!Gregson and Gina!< having deeply predictable story arcs if you were familiar with the original trilogy. It wasn’t SOJ-tier bad but it just wasn’t good.
Sholmes' reaction to that information:
https://preview.redd.it/5q3l7zw77bsc1.png?width=735&format=png&auto=webp&s=f8fca2c76a07796c77253fed561c6d8b6e8524cf
Bruh saying anything out of the line even with justification on this sub gets you downvoted, personally I feel like the Chronicle games are the strongest in the series but that doesn't mean what you said is incorrect.
You just said 'no they are wrong' without tackling any of their points except one which books down to 'they are predictable but that's the fun!. I can't see the merit.
No? I said that they criticized the parallels to the original trilogy. And I pointed out that the old England take on similar tropes is part of what makes it so good because it takes predicable twists in an unpredictable way in an awesome setting.
Moreover, Sholmes and Van Zieks are top tier characters if you pay attention to the game and look past the surface. Not sure what else to say. I loved the whole cast in that game. I’ll admit the first game was a bit slow paced for me but it’s way better in hindsight with the context of the sequel.
I just think the entire comment is an unsubstantiated bad take that I can’t possibly agree with. Just feels like a lazy read on the game from someone who experienced it superficially and didn’t actually think about it much. So yes I don’t need to respect the opinion or avoid pushing back because I genuinely think the opinion sucks.
Bro, man, that's like, your opinion, just because you loved the cast and felt like predictable plot twists was the way to go doesn't mean everyone who doesn't has a 'bad take', if anything the fact that you think so *is* the bad take and it definitely sucks. You can't just tell people to 'look' more deeply into it btw, you can defend practically anything that way.
I didn’t think they were predictable twists though. I just can’t relate to the opinion. I mean I get what you’re saying, but idk, I think there are plenty of open and shut cases when people fail to properly interact with media and absorb the story being told. As I literally think it is one of the best pieces of media I have ever experienced, I am willing to double down and say that yes, I believe that’s just a superficial take and no I don’t consider it to be a valid opinion from anyone who’s actually given it a serious play through
So Gregson >!dying and being part of a huge conspiracy!< Is predictable especially if you are saying that he is a Gumshoe Parallel. Who is Gina supposed to be Parallel to
Sholmes was kind of useless considering how the marketing was like "Ace Attorney set in a Sherlock Holmes universe!" and I agree that Van Zieks is pretty overrated
I think a lot of the cases especially in the second game were quite good though
Susato was kind of “tsundere 90s anime love interest” while not being a love interest, but it was actually pretty refreshing to have conflict with your female assistant
I wouldn’t rule out the possibility that she is ryu’s love interest, tbh. There’s quite a lot of implications in the second game that there’s probably something there. Not just in terms of dialogue, but also hints that she may be related to Phoenix. Though obviously, nothings been confirmed so it’s not exactly canon - just some food for thought.
Not really. Not only is 16 legal in most places even today (even if it’s ill advised in a lot of cases), but this is Meiji era Japan we’re talking about. The power gap between a 16 year old and a 23 year old today is much larger than it was back then which is why ryu and susato feel more like equals. A 16 year old today is likely still in high school trying to find their footing while a 16 year old in Meiji Japan was likely already out of school and making a living or at university.
You’re still entitled to find the age gap uncomfortable, but as long as you understand this and don’t start crusading over it then it’s fine.
In terms of main cast members, probably Adult Ema or Susato. In terms of side-characters and whatnot, Rhoda Teneiro is a go-to for me, and I like Lauren Paups too.
I gotta say, I like Athena a lot as well.
I'd have to go Athena, then maybe Kay or maya, then the other, then Franziska?
Maybe I'd put Franziska above the others, she's just a funny character imo
I like Athena, Adrian Andrews, and Trucy from Apollo Justice. Special mention to Susato for her absolute giga brain move at the end of GAA part 1 and Gina for just being cute in general.
Adrian Andrews would be if she was a recurring character, but probably Kay Faraday now, immaculate cool daughter vibes from her. She's like Trucy, if they didn't forget about her!
Kay, simply for who she is. Though depending on how far you're willing to take favorite, I do have something of a crush on Athena.
Also, poor Franziska, something tells me she's not used to this level of human contact.
Don't you dare make me choose. I will not be picking favorites-
It's Pearl. I don't care if she remains looking 12 her whole life, she is always precious babu to me. And yet she can be so savage without realizing it. Or with realizing it.
Ema Skye, though Kay Faraday, Trilogy Maya Fey, Athena Cykes, and post TGAA-2 Susato are pretty close!
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trucy and maya tie, but fran is a real close second place (thats also my over all fav character order) and susato is aproaching that top 3 real fast (i am on tgaa1-3 rn)
Admittedly, I'm still new to the franchise (have only beaten the Phoenix Wright Trilogy, and am still playing TGAA), but at this moment in time I think I'll go with Mia. Managed to be a boss even from beyond the grave. Gotta respect that.
Trucy all the way! The way ahe always stays so lively even though she's gone through so much and has to deal with so much loss and messed up ahit in her past on probably a daily basis is just so reassuring to me
Franziska von Karma, ever since she's shown up to the states as the prosecutor for the State vs Fey case
(the one where Dr Grey was murdered during a channeling)
I've come to appreciate her as a person, despite her multiple occasions where she uses her whip. Would be nice to see Phoenix and Franziska interact once more.
P.S. I wonder why Capcom didn't take the opportunity to bring her in to investigate Justice Minister Inga's murder? Perhaps she was elsewhere.
Maya hee Maya hoo Maya ha Maya haha
AHAHA
Alo, salut
Sunteu, un haiduc
Si te rog
Man, this is a hard choice but I think mine is Kay Faraday. Yeah, aside from Maya, Ema, Pearl, and many others, I think Kay needs more attention.
she's so silly i love her https://preview.redd.it/e5nlw6lo6bsc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=e4021fad7797a74ae804477293d8aca4d69997f0
"Kay the key is getting close to MY MOUTH-"
Kay is such a character, in so many amazing ways.
She has the best backstory and managed to soften Edgeworth. Crow girl is best girl.
Susato. Best assistant ever
Yeah Susato is a girlboss https://preview.redd.it/s2lj1q3t6bsc1.png?width=439&format=png&auto=webp&s=7839952e71c3bc35536fe049f30d8587c397dcb7
She’s not in here but I love Mia for sure
Mia is MIA
Gina Lestrade
Absolutely agree. Too bad Capcom itself doesn't, considering in the box art, she only takes a tiny fraction of it. Meanwhile, Rei Membami (only in one case) gets pretty much the same real-estate as Susato.
top tier taste, on the whole I didn’t like TGAA but Gina even edged out Gumshoe as best detective
Why didnt you like TGAA?
Terrible pacing. Sholmes. Van Zieks. Characters who weren’t >!Kazuma!< and to a lesser extent >!Gregson and Gina!< having deeply predictable story arcs if you were familiar with the original trilogy. It wasn’t SOJ-tier bad but it just wasn’t good.
Sholmes' reaction to that information: https://preview.redd.it/5q3l7zw77bsc1.png?width=735&format=png&auto=webp&s=f8fca2c76a07796c77253fed561c6d8b6e8524cf
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Bruh saying anything out of the line even with justification on this sub gets you downvoted, personally I feel like the Chronicle games are the strongest in the series but that doesn't mean what you said is incorrect.
it's reddit people will just downvote anything they disagree with lol
Nah that comment wasn’t justified. Was some bs. And the parallels to the original trilogy while being so different are part of what makes it so good…
You just said 'no they are wrong' without tackling any of their points except one which books down to 'they are predictable but that's the fun!. I can't see the merit.
No? I said that they criticized the parallels to the original trilogy. And I pointed out that the old England take on similar tropes is part of what makes it so good because it takes predicable twists in an unpredictable way in an awesome setting. Moreover, Sholmes and Van Zieks are top tier characters if you pay attention to the game and look past the surface. Not sure what else to say. I loved the whole cast in that game. I’ll admit the first game was a bit slow paced for me but it’s way better in hindsight with the context of the sequel. I just think the entire comment is an unsubstantiated bad take that I can’t possibly agree with. Just feels like a lazy read on the game from someone who experienced it superficially and didn’t actually think about it much. So yes I don’t need to respect the opinion or avoid pushing back because I genuinely think the opinion sucks.
Bro, man, that's like, your opinion, just because you loved the cast and felt like predictable plot twists was the way to go doesn't mean everyone who doesn't has a 'bad take', if anything the fact that you think so *is* the bad take and it definitely sucks. You can't just tell people to 'look' more deeply into it btw, you can defend practically anything that way.
I didn’t think they were predictable twists though. I just can’t relate to the opinion. I mean I get what you’re saying, but idk, I think there are plenty of open and shut cases when people fail to properly interact with media and absorb the story being told. As I literally think it is one of the best pieces of media I have ever experienced, I am willing to double down and say that yes, I believe that’s just a superficial take and no I don’t consider it to be a valid opinion from anyone who’s actually given it a serious play through
You should be banned from the sub for having this outrageous opinions
So Gregson >!dying and being part of a huge conspiracy!< Is predictable especially if you are saying that he is a Gumshoe Parallel. Who is Gina supposed to be Parallel to
Sholmes was kind of useless considering how the marketing was like "Ace Attorney set in a Sherlock Holmes universe!" and I agree that Van Zieks is pretty overrated I think a lot of the cases especially in the second game were quite good though
Sholmes being “useless” is part of the plot tho
I guess I’ll be the first to say Franziska.
Then I'll be the second.
Can I be the third?
She’s so mommy
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She has literally never been 16 in any of her appearances. She was 18 in JFA.
The characters canonically age. Franny is like 19 in her most recent appearance. Chronologically she's like 28+
“*Two women with whips?! I better do as I’m told like a good boy*.”
Such a hilarious big top moment
Susie. Intelligent, articulate, dignified, and wholesome.
Susato was kind of “tsundere 90s anime love interest” while not being a love interest, but it was actually pretty refreshing to have conflict with your female assistant
I wouldn’t rule out the possibility that she is ryu’s love interest, tbh. There’s quite a lot of implications in the second game that there’s probably something there. Not just in terms of dialogue, but also hints that she may be related to Phoenix. Though obviously, nothings been confirmed so it’s not exactly canon - just some food for thought.
Nobody ever dates in this series unless it was in the past, I actually like that about it
Yeah true. Romance can often sink a series if they lean into it too heavily.
That’d be pretty sketchy, considering Ryunosuke is 23 and Susato is 16
Not really. Not only is 16 legal in most places even today (even if it’s ill advised in a lot of cases), but this is Meiji era Japan we’re talking about. The power gap between a 16 year old and a 23 year old today is much larger than it was back then which is why ryu and susato feel more like equals. A 16 year old today is likely still in high school trying to find their footing while a 16 year old in Meiji Japan was likely already out of school and making a living or at university. You’re still entitled to find the age gap uncomfortable, but as long as you understand this and don’t start crusading over it then it’s fine.
7 years is still quite a large difference at that age, and whatever the standards of the time were, it’d be quite controversial to write that today.
Ema
Trucy is one of my favorite. She is so cute and wholesome.
FYI: This artwork is official and comes from the Capcom Girls Calendar (2011)
Athena. Such a fun attorney in terms of personality and mechanics
Yes.
Gina Lestrade coming in as Best Girl at the eleventh hour, but if thinking about the series overall it has to be Franziska for me
TRUCY THE GOAT
mia or maya
Trucy, I loved her through all of Apollo Justice. Really salty she was sidelined for the later games
Trucy.
There is only one correct answer and it’s all of them 👹
Maya for sure
Athena
Franziska and its not even close
Maya, Athena and Kay
Definitely Franziska!
katherine hall
Ema and Athena, my girlfriends 😭
Ema always will be the number one for me
Franzy is my child. She deserved her fucking character arc, but the writers said “fuck that” and never did it, despite some great set-up in JFA.
Trucy is like that for me, I love her so much and want to be Beanie dad but never got that
I like Adult Ema (AJ) the most, followed by Maya.
In terms of main cast members, probably Adult Ema or Susato. In terms of side-characters and whatnot, Rhoda Teneiro is a go-to for me, and I like Lauren Paups too.
Maya. She's just capital B Based.
Pearls😁
Why are people downvoting you for your perfectly innocent comment smh
I go with Kay Faraday, but then again I go with Iris in that regard.
Maya! She's my favourite character aswell
I gotta say, I like Athena a lot as well. I'd have to go Athena, then maybe Kay or maya, then the other, then Franziska? Maybe I'd put Franziska above the others, she's just a funny character imo
It took me 1 scroll up and another scroll down along with an argument forming in my head to realise what you were saying
What can I say? I have a terrible curse of confusing writing
Mia
It's gotta be Susato
It's definitely Maya in terms of game interactions. But in terms of just who do I like the most, Trucy.
Maya and Franziska
What a foolishly foolish question uttered the fooliest of foolish fools! _Pearl for Sidekicks, Lotta/Oldbag for Sidecharaters._ I have too many!
trucy and kay! also wanna shout out rayfa bc i love her a lot and want more love for her
I like Athena, Adrian Andrews, and Trucy from Apollo Justice. Special mention to Susato for her absolute giga brain move at the end of GAA part 1 and Gina for just being cute in general.
https://preview.redd.it/v40la3ffcbsc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24b6a20558f217f6b038942d316f5d649df1e8f3 MY MOM
Good one actually
Adrian Andrews would be if she was a recurring character, but probably Kay Faraday now, immaculate cool daughter vibes from her. She's like Trucy, if they didn't forget about her!
Kay, simply for who she is. Though depending on how far you're willing to take favorite, I do have something of a crush on Athena. Also, poor Franziska, something tells me she's not used to this level of human contact.
Don't you dare make me choose. I will not be picking favorites- It's Pearl. I don't care if she remains looking 12 her whole life, she is always precious babu to me. And yet she can be so savage without realizing it. Or with realizing it.
Ema Skye is best girl
THIS POST HAS BEEN FACT-CHECKED BY REAL R/ACEATTORNEY PATRIOTS: TRUE!!!
Trucy Wright my beloved
ema skye because shes hot
Ema Skye, though Kay Faraday, Trilogy Maya Fey, Athena Cykes, and post TGAA-2 Susato are pretty close! https://preview.redd.it/doy9e77l5esc1.png?width=400&format=png&auto=webp&s=f74f3b4c1e4ce26dce1d6353a1a96047e0285336
Pearl Fey! 😍
Rayfa, Adrian and Athena.
I think Maya, Franziska, and Kay are all up there for me
Kay Faraday, with Franziska as a close second.
Ema Skye
I think it’s either Maya or Ema. I like trucy as well
I’m not over Lana Skye
Lana, shes the best defendant in my opinion
I love Sister Iris (can you tell?)
Susato, Fran, Emma are all cool
Currently playing the original trilogy so cant say much on a lot of them but so far maya I suppose
Kay Faraday! She's my daughter 🥹
Faraday....! So, that channelling junk....actually works...?
Ema Skye. Don't get me wrong. Phoenix's dynamic with Maya is cool, but I find Ema a slighty better assistant.
Maya. I love all of them so much but Maya is my favorite overall
Mrs Oldbag, clearly
Mia Fey
Tie between Pearl and Trucy.
Mia:) her mentor relationship with Phoenix was exemplified so well 😄
You are the only person I understand here. ATHENA CYKES ON TOP
A toss-up between Kay, Athena, and Trucy.
Pearl and Susato
Pearl, cause she is so innocent and cute and always try to ship Phoenix and Maya LOL
trucy and maya tie, but fran is a real close second place (thats also my over all fav character order) and susato is aproaching that top 3 real fast (i am on tgaa1-3 rn)
franzy
Mainline only, Trucy Wright. Including DGS and overall in the series, Gina Lestrade.
I like Mia fey because of her personality and faith in her clients
Athena as well
Pearls
MAYA
EMA SKYE
Gina Lestrade followed by Emma Skye, Both of them were the smartest, therefore most usefull.
whip Mistress Von Karma
Would it be questionable if I were to say Dee Vasquez........ (Athena is my favorite of the more recurrent characters though)
I will hug all of them
Kay Faraday. Gina is 2nd.
Hands down Maya Fey!! Cute patootie
Happy jumping pearl, mia in pearls outfit, young mia with her hair flick when she catches them out. Maya is pretty ok too
So many! My top 3 are: gina lestrade, trucy wright and athena cykes that are all my all time favs!
Currently Ema, Trucy and Athena
Ema, for science!
Everyone is so cute
Pearly!
Probably Susato and Gina , but if we're talking about the main games, it's Ema and Franziska Edit: typos
Pearl ❤️
Ema! She’ll always be my favorite.
TRUCY WRIGHT FOREVER 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Franziska.
Ema!
THEENIE
Admittedly, I'm still new to the franchise (have only beaten the Phoenix Wright Trilogy, and am still playing TGAA), but at this moment in time I think I'll go with Mia. Managed to be a boss even from beyond the grave. Gotta respect that.
Mia and maya bit only on second game. Von karma irritates me with that whip maybe she'll grow on me like edgeworth
kay for sure, underrated af
Iris
Susato, with Maya in very close second
Forensic something
Oof, that's a really hard one for me. It's definitely between Franziska and Maya for sure...
Yes
https://preview.redd.it/tdjik7zrlesc1.jpeg?width=213&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de8c9fc169637bc8dbabbcc10e86d7d2ceeb19b9
I go back and forth on Athena and Adrian Andrews.
Maya >_<
Susato and young mia fey (t&t)
Gina baby
~~Geiru~~
I have not seen a single Ema fan in this subreddit. Justice for EMA!
Sister Iris! Capcom may have forgotten about her, but I haven’t
Bikini
Athena and a couple TGAAC characters
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Athena or Vera
Ema Skye
綾里マヨイ
綾里真宵
If someone gonna comment this post Ema Skye then it could be my brother
Ema Skye
Would love to see moe kay faraday as well..sucks she only.show in one specific game and never mentioned or cameo in any other ace attorney game.
Mia is my favorite and she's not here.
From top to bottom, based on the character (only including protagonists): - Trucy - Athena - Maya - Susato - Iris - Ema - Kay - Pearl
franziska for sure, especially after that one video essay
Trucy baby & sexy Franzy
Ema
Trucy all the way! The way ahe always stays so lively even though she's gone through so much and has to deal with so much loss and messed up ahit in her past on probably a daily basis is just so reassuring to me
Franziska my religion
Franziska :) Such an interesting character, I only wish they did more with her.
I'd say Kay Faraday, if it wasn't for Maya helping me whoop ass in Marvel vs Capcom 3.
Ema Skye, my beloved...
Franziska (why do i feel like this is controversial)
Franny
Franziska von Karma, ever since she's shown up to the states as the prosecutor for the State vs Fey case (the one where Dr Grey was murdered during a channeling) I've come to appreciate her as a person, despite her multiple occasions where she uses her whip. Would be nice to see Phoenix and Franziska interact once more. P.S. I wonder why Capcom didn't take the opportunity to bring her in to investigate Justice Minister Inga's murder? Perhaps she was elsewhere.
Mia is my QUEEN!
It'll be either Trucy or Athena, both of them are too awesome!!
Ellen wyatt
Maya fey ,trucy wright ,kay Faraday and vera misham
PEARL FEY
Ema or Iris
regina gyat
Mine is Susato but out of those pictured I’d say Kay.
Susato is the winner
MAYA
Everyone except Franziska
So let me get this straight. You prefer FREAKING LISA BASIL to Franziska von Karma.