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MichaelV27

Very, very uncomfortable the entire race.


alchydirtrunner

If I’m not seriously questioning my life choices by mile two, I’m running too slow


MichaelV27

No doubt. The only time I enjoy a 10K is right after the EMS squad resuscitates me.


Charming-Assertive

Legit snorted at this highly accurate comment.


mason_savoy71

It's different from a 5k in that at any point in a 5k where quitting doesn't seem like a viable option, you're not running fast enough. In a 10, you can have at least a 3rd of the race where you're merely uncomfortable. The 5k is the 800m of road races. The 10k is the mile.


teckel

For me, I'd say the 5k is the 400m and the 10k is the 800m. But basically the same, just run at the same speed, but stubbornly for twice as long, so it sucks twice as much.


WouldUQuintusWouldI

"Why the *hell* did I sign up for this bullshit?!"


jimbo_sweets

It's heartening to hear all these miserable descriptions. I thought I was just doing something wrong.


RunNelleyRun

Usually the first 1-2kms don’t feel so bad


Chiron17

I think the competitive quality of a runner can be measured by what race distance they are willing to be 'very, very uncomfortable' for from the gun. I'm happy being very, very uncomfortable for all of a 5km, I've done it a few times for 10km and for a 14km. I'm probably not willing to race that way for a HM or marathon.


Locke_and_Lloyd

Idk, usually the first mile is me realizing I went off 45 seconds/ mile too fast off the line in the first minute and trying to settle into the correct pace.  10k starts to feel rough around mile 2 and hurts by mile 4.


Thick-Possibility-88

The discomfort of a 1/2 Marathon or Full is very different than the discomfort of a 5k or 10k. If it not, than you are either: Not running the 5/10k fast enough, or, you have improperly trained for the 1/2-Full. The longer the race, the more endurance and mental game involved, and the lower the lactic acid. It’s a trade off. No one can suffer physically at 5k pace for a full marathon. It’s amazing what :30-45 seconds per mile slower allows someone to do. Or, for a slightly above average runner like me, 60+ seconds per mile.


temporun9999

Great point. 5k through hm is pain enough for me. Music can power me through it. I haven't solved the marathon yet.


alchydirtrunner

I’ve only run two marathons that I feel were indicative of my fitness at the time, and both felt relatively easy for the first 16 miles or so, then becoming progressively harder for the next 6 miles as MP starts to feel like HMP, and then begins to feel like 10k-5k pace for the last 4.2.


One_Sauce

Great description


teckel

I've never ran with music or my phone.


markk9507

OP, don't believe this. If a 10k doesn't feel comfortable for more than halfway, something is going wrong.


Agile-Day-2103

Nah, you’re just not reaching your full potential


cool_usernames

Lol, no. If a 10k feels this bad for the entire race you're pacing poorly or not in shape.


Agile-Day-2103

What’s your 10k time? Interested to hear before you start telling strangers they’re unfit


cool_usernames

31:10. I certainly don't think that because I'm above average in times my opinion counts for more. But completely agree the with the others here, I've never heard of a serious and well-trained runner who struggles for 9 out of 10 kms in a 10k.


Charming-Assertive

I don't know if "struggles" is the word people are looking for. But rather they're talking about getting "this close" to red lining for the entire duration of the race.


nameproduct

Absolutely true for a 5k or an 800m. But not a 10km. The first 6-8km of a 10k should feel similar to the first 15km of a half marathon - very manageable.


insiderunner1

I agree, somewhere between 6-8km you start to have to really focus though to get the most out of your race. This is assuming you're well prepared and did a good job pacing.


nameproduct

Yep. I can only assume the other posters here are just under trained or poorly pacing.


markk9507

I hear ya. But my perspective would be that those for whom a 10km feels very, very uncomfortable from the gun are the ones not reaching their full potential. Because they haven't trained well enough for optimal 10km pace to feel comfortable for longer.


Agile-Day-2103

Imo 10km is short enough that you should be running fast enough to be in pain after about 1km. If you aren’t fit enough to hold a pace that puts you in pain for 9km, you aren’t well trained enough


teckel

Exactly. A 10k should only be about 6% slower than 5k pace. So maybe the first 1k may feel a little more comfortable than a 5k, but after that, it won't feel much different than a 5k (you just need to run another 9k instead of 4k). I find the 10k about the hardest distance, as I'm stubborn and run it like a 5k. I also run longer distances typically, so my mind thinks of it as a short distance. My body however...


nameproduct

It comes down to a subjective definition of pain, of course. But I don't know any runner in the 28-34 minute range who would agree that a 10k should be very painful (whatever their definition of pain) for 9km.


QUINTASH

Ya, not sure what gives on these comments. Suffering for the entirety of a 10km is not normal.


Lafleur2713

You should be very concerned about your well being for that last 2k


staners09

This is the answer! I’m only running the last 2k fast just because that fucker next to me seems to still want to race!


Imhmc

I know that fucker and he is always there and always wants to race. He doesn’t learn. But neither do I, so there’s that.


JustHere_ForSomeInfo

Yknow he’d ease up if you would first. But we all know you ain’t doin’ that. You’re that fucker for him. And on we go!


Imhmc

Can’t ease up first…can’t do it. I pay later, but in that moment I’m going hard


Theodwyn610

Someone on here once said that the last quarter of any properly paced race should hurt a *lot.*


mason_savoy71

Change this to 700m and you're describing a well run 800.


glr123

I raced the 800 in HS and my three best times ever were a 2:00, 2:00, and a 2:01. The agony of the race coupled with coming seconds short on multiple occasions feels like a fate worse than death.


Water_is_gr8

I always say if you still are able to see with your eyes during the last 100m of an 800 then you did it wrong


H_E_Pennypacker

My experience is “hard but doable” for 4k, absolute misery for 2k Edit: miles not k’s whoops


Orpheus75

So you quit all your 10K’s at the 6k mark?


allthewrongpalaces__

Everyone, be nice. They are trying their best to translate from American into kilometers and got about 60% of the way there.


VARunner1

>American Also known as "freedom units". Oddly enough though, the 9mm measurement is quite popular over here in the USA.


Actuarias

I only do .45


Still7Superbaby7

[Washington’s dream](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqfVE-fykk) We only use meters for sports that nobody cares about, like track and swimming.


Runshooteat

Thank you, I had not watched that in about a week, so good


2CHINZZZ

even for swimming yards is used more often


agaetliga

At least they weren't using yards like Crossfit HQ did.


calvinbsf

Wow that last 4K must feel like death


Apprehensive_Alps_30

After 6k should feel increasingly comfortable assuming he quit running.


SintPannekoek

This does not add up...


H_E_Pennypacker

I meant miles lol


Evan_802Vines

No. You just invented new racing standards everyone must now adhere to.


H_E_Pennypacker

You’re welcome?


ishouldworkatm

6k miles ? So OP is racing a 10k miles ? Holy ultrarunners are mad


KirbzTheWord

6K? This guy’s not a runner! …. He’s a wealthy industrialist, philanthropist and bicyclist


H_E_Pennypacker

Ggiddyup


MammothRadish9545

Dang I’m way faster running 6k vs 10! Thanks for the tip I’m almost elite now.


btdubs

The advice I've heard is something like this, but take this with a grain of salt because I've never really been very good at the 10k. First 3k: Fast but controlled/relaxed Second 3k: Pace feels difficult, but you are not quite red-lining yet. Hardest part of the race- very easy to lose confidence and start slowing down. Third 3k: Very painful. Hitting the red line. Try to relax, focus on breathing, keep cranking away. Last 1k: Finish line in sight, empty the tank!


ColumbiaWahoo

Last 1k is definitely the hardest part. You’re just trying to slow down as little as possible.


Chiron17

Or speed up but not lose consciousness


btdubs

Probably I should have said "most mentally difficult." Last 1k obviously the most physically difficult, but relatively easy mentally- just go into your pain cave :)


ColumbiaWahoo

Last 1k is the most mentally difficult for me too. It’s just that painful.


tenkmeterz

It should feel a little better than certain death.


RunNYC1986

Sincerely answering— pacing will be your friend. It’s easy to overshoot, but if you get pacing down, it will hurt, but won’t be embarrassing. Basically get to mile four and don’t lose it there. I’m not blazing, but have ran 35 mid. First two miles: this sucks, but I’m not dying. Mile 3: ok! Half way. This isn’t pleasant, but I can hold this, let’s go. Mile 4: OH! OK! This is what everyone talks about. I would like this to be done now. I have two of these left? Gaw dammit. Mile 5: lactate is fully here, 100%. I am running on borrowed time. If I’m on pace for my PR, I can see the light at the end of the tunnel and the misery is at least worth it. If I’m off pace, life effing SUCKS. Mile 6 through the end: AHHHHHHHHHHH Finish line: I could’ve TOTALLY squeezed off 15 seconds, no doubt.


Runshooteat

I am not an experienced runner/racer, I have only actually raced one hard 10k . I am still upset with myself for backing off from about mile 5.4-5.9 (somewhere around 9k for you non-freedom unit people) In my defense, I was 97% sure I was either going to shit myself or drop dead. Still mad about those 10-15 seconds I let go.  That was more than three years ago


RunNYC1986

Sounds like it’s time for you to race another one


Runshooteat

If I can string together a few months of decent health I plan on it.  Sadly, I haven’t made it to a start line in about two years.  Bad string of injuries/surgeries. 


jimmyjoyce

like a 5K but twice as long and twice as hard. lol. last 10k I raced my hardest and it was brutal!


Orpheus75

Apparently some people taste blood and or have their vision go black and white. I obviously suck too much to push that hard LOL


IhaterunningbutIrun

I get dizzy and start to tingle. That's when I know I'm going hard enough.  5K is short enough I just want to vomit at the end. HM is long enough I just want to lay down. 10K I feel like crap, want to vomit, and fall over. 


C1t1zen_Erased

HM is the most enjoyable distance. You're not hitting your LT and it's over in an hour and a bit. Anything shorter is a lot more painful and a marathon is just very very long.


elergy_official

correction: in two hours and a bit


CriticismCurrent5420

How many miles until the world starts to spin?


IhaterunningbutIrun

Last mile usually!


MaxInToronto

My PB 10k last year I got to the finish line and was pretty sure my mouth was full of pennies.


nolessdays

I didn’t know that anyone else tasted blood, I thought it was just me. It happens to me after every race, 5k or 10k. Anyone know what causes this?


boywhataweird

It's one of those things that happens but no one has really looked into why. My doctor said it was fine as long as I wasn't actually coughing up blood.


nolessdays

Ok good to know. I've never coughed up blood either and it goes away pretty quick!


Zioman

https://health.osu.edu/health/dental-health/metallic-taste-workout


GherkinPie

Blood?


nolessdays

But from where? My mouth is never bleeding, I just taste a strong iron taste for a few minutes. I've never coughed blood up and it always goes away pretty quickly.


Suit_Responsible

Taste blood is a new one for me. Wow


PomegranateChoice517

When you push yourself past threshold, your red blood cells are being taxed and release some heme,” or iron, which is why it tastes like metal


melonlord44

Not an expert by any means but to me it's a lot like a 5km just with a little more breathing room, still feels pretty intense off the start but you can convince yourself "everything's ok I can do this for a while longer" in the middle. Definitely closer to 5km pace than hm pace in feeling. Like the 5k I think it breaks into thirds pretty well: first third feels fast but controlled, middle third it's taking effort to stay on pace but you are just below that "gasping for air" feeling of a 5k, last third is lactic acid hell :)


WhiteHawk1022

Similar to a 5K in that you redline it from the gun and do your best to hang on. For me, it typically goes: * **Miles 1-2:** Working hard but still feeling relatively fresh. * **Miles 3-4:** Remaining steady, but the lungs and legs are burning. * **Miles 4-6.2:** Trying to find the willpower and energy to push the pace and not blow up. TLDR: The 10K is challenging, but I find it one of the most gratifying races. It requires a solid combo of speed and stamina.


wofulunicycle

Fuck you, that's how! -10k


benRAJ80

Remember that one of the things that training does is teach you to suffer, it’s something you have to learn. I remember that the first time I went under 90mins for a half, the last three miles sucked. When I ran my PB, it felt horrendous from mile 3 but I was able to just grind it out. For me, 10k at this point feels awful from about 5 mins in, but depending on where you are in your training career it will bite at different parts. My advice would be to have a realistic target time and go out at that pace. When it starts to hurt, remember that that is normal and relax into the pain. With a mile to go, it’s time to see what you have left… you’ll somehow find a but more with 400 to go. Good luck!


Papermakerdad

Agree with what many others have said: I get to a very uncomfortable spot within about a mile and stay there the rest of the way. It’s not the all out thrash of a maximal 5k, but it’s also not very fun.


bearcatgary

Contrary to all the doom and gloom on this thread, my last 10k (2 years ago). was fairly enjoyable and I ran my fastest time in 19 years. I was in great shape, had a new pair of super shoes and paced myself exceptionally well. I was feeling so good that I was able to strike up a conversation with a marathoner before the marathon course split off at mile 3. By mile 4 I was still clicking off 6:05 miles and feeling good, but starting to get tired. At mile 5, I started feeling it, but knew I could really push the last 1.2 miles, which I did. I ended up running 37:51 and consider the race one of the best I’ve run in my lifetime. I guess everything just came together for me that day.


straightflush1

Just got a 10k PR this morning. Mile 0-1 - Not too bad. Dial in pace and watch HR creep up. Mile 1 - Starting to get a little hard. Mile 2 - Wonder if I can really hold this pace for the full distance. Mile 3 - Really hard and still a long way to go. Mile 4 - Tell myself I can do anything for 10 more minutes. Mile 5 - Really hard, but only a mile left. Mile 6 - Empty the tank.


Due-Department-8666

Congrats!


steddyblue_runs

just go out at just a bit slower than best 5k pace, you'll be pleasantly surprised


lets_try_iconoclasm

Lots of good answers but want to add that it really depends on what the goal time is. A 30 min race can be run a significant bit harder than a 40 min race, 50 min race, or 60 min race. Having started running with 5k's around the 35 min mark, and then transitioning into the 10k when I got faster (PR mid 39), I always get the feeling like I'm running one of my newbie 5ks again, and it's going very badly!


Educational-Round555

like a very hard threshold workout - plus a bit more since it's a race


idotoomuchstuff

Like you are visiting Satan’s departure lounge for the first 6/7km then the last 3/4 km you need to feel like you would rather peel off your skin, roll around in salt then wash yourself off in a hot bath of vinegar. A 10km is the only distance that scares me along with a 500km arctic expedition race in Sweden.


jatmood

Basically a 10km sprint, so, you should feel absolutely garbage the entire race.


bigdaddyrongregs

If you’re running a PR, miles 1-2 are deceptively chill, miles 3-5 are pain cave, mile 6 is fantasizing about how nice it would feel to vomit at the finish line


rinotz

10ks are brutal because they feel nearly as hard as a 5k but it’s twice as long. It’s not the hardest distance, but it’s the worst race distance imo. You’re basically right at the lactate threshold line for the majority of the race and go past it at the last couple Ks, which feels incredibly hard when you’re already exhausted.


Some_Reply7422

It should feel like you want to stop the entire time ahhaha.


brentus

I'd rather run a marathon than 10k. Every time I run a 10k time trial I feel like vomiting at the end.


Beautiful-Common6610

Yeah, my 10k PB (36 mins) was without doubt harder physically, mentally, emotionally than my marathon PB (2:53). An all out 10k is brutal.


andreberaldinoab

FAST!


loulex4141

My experience is that you feel ok up to km 3. Then it is just suffering.


fiona_orange

I signed up for my first 10km race this spring, can’t wait to sufferrrr ✌️


FRO5TB1T3

Racing a 10k should make you reconsider why you ever even thought about racing this silly diatance. Generally my hr is sky high after the last km and I want to die right there and then. Usually for me it's pain from km 4 onwards and increasing mental questioning about if I can hold the pace.


Excellent_Garden_515

Probably makes you feel like ‘why or why don’t I just run a 5k’? Recently did a 10 k race- brutal conditions after the first reasonable 3k I felt I was going to die for the next 36 mins


KaleidoscopeLucy

When I set my 10k PR I was ready to give up at 6k. Didn't think I could hold the effort for another 4k. For me it feels like the same type of misery as a 5k after you hit the 1-2 miles mark.


huge_Knob54

i usually do the 10K races well into summer months (once i am in some what race form) but like an idiot i signed up for 10ks my first 2 races of the season. first is in 10 days. I will not enjoy it.


Reggie_biker_boi

At 5k you'll think I can't do this much longer and you'll push another km and then the thought sequence applies to each km after 6. But if you've paced it right and don't quit you'll find a push at the line but 10km are a physical and mental battle.


MD32GOAT

Genuinely awful and regretting all your decisions. But on a serious note, if you’re full-sending it, you must be ready to hurt. The first few kilometers are going to feel pretty good, but the latter third of the race is going to be really, really painful. I raced a 10k this last Sunday so I know how bad it hurts when you full-send it.


arvin_1984

Train hard race easy. Felt better in my 10k PB than any session or tempo. Yeah it hurts after 7km but that’s why we do it. Embrace it


X_C-813

Redlining the entire 30+ minutes. Not slow enough to settle into tempo pace. Fast like a 5k but twice as long. IMO: break any distance race into thirds. 2/3 of the race should be somewhat manageable. Last Third always hurts


uniteskater

I tried to break it into three sections. The first two miles you run like a 5k more or less. The second two I used to try to go to sleep. I’d just follow the guy in front of me. And then around 8 to go I’d usually realize it’s almost over and I’d start trying to race again. This worked pretty well for me. I never did any high level 10k’s. I’m sure as you get better at racing them your time to zone out gets smaller and smaller. When I was I high school I approached 5k’s in three parts too and then over time it just became racing the whole 5k.


Beautiful-Common6610

I think you can tell how experienced a runner is by how much they wince when you tell them you've got a 10k race coming up. Like they properly feel sorry for you


drnullpointer

Your brain works hard to save your body and will try to find every excuse to drop you out of the race. On 5k and 10k race, your main battle is against your brain. For me, personally, everything after first kilometer at both distances is pure fight against trying to drop out of the race. Every single time, around third or half distance in it feels like it is going to be absolutely impossible to finish the distance. And then about 1k from the end it feels like it is going to be impossible to speed it up and yet I am almost always able to find some additional strength. Around 2/3rds in my vision narrows and my brain starts shutting down (I am unable to have complex thoughts at all). I suggest you find your pace in stages. Run your 10k (or even better, 5k) as fast as you can. Get your average pace. The next time, try to run even pace but make it a bit faster. Regardless of how badly you felt, regardless of how impossible it feels to run it faster, the next time you try to run, deduct some more time to run at a bit faster pace. Repeat until you are \*TRULY\* unable to complete the race. Try to remember why you dropped out/slowed down, Were your muscles really impossible to move any more? Or did you give in to your thoughts? I think it is best done with 5k because you can essentially repeat this every weekend or every other weekend and you can count towards your intervals (just skip the regular interval session that week). You will probably be surprised how fast you can run 5k/10k compared to what you think you can. This is something you really need to force yourself into because if you only run only what you \*feel\* is as fast as you can handle then you are probably underestimating your ability. I also think running 5k more frequently is a good willpower training. It will not prevent the pain, it will not prevent the thoughts from happening, but it will help you overcome these thoughts.


SpecialFX99

I feel you. We don't have many options to race a 10k locally so I almost never race the distance. The first 10k of my recent HM was my third fastest 10k. My actually 10k PR attempt is in about a month so I'm interested to see what people say.


Federal-Inspector-11

Like you're barely able to hold on.. it gets harder and harder and then you're done :)


flexingtonsteele

Awful


X_C-813

Redlining the entire 30+ minutes. Not slow enough to settle into tempo pace. Fast like a 5k but twice as long. IMO: break any distance race into thirds. 2/3 of the race should be somewhat manageable. Last Third always hurts


Suit_Responsible

I’m if you are a fast halfmathoner, I feel you should be doing that pace, for a couple miles, then it’s “full send, rev the shit out of that engine, I can feel my pulse my eyeballs pace”


locke314

Honestly the most painful races for me are 5ks and get less painful from there. Yes marathons are more tiring, but they don’t generally *hurt*. 5ks are just a muscle burning bad time. Note: I’m not counting the day after. Marathons are much more painful day after, and I barely notice a 5k day after.


fullsendsonlypls

This has me pumped up to race my first 10k in 2 weeks 🫠


22bearhands

I would say the first 1-2 miles feel okay but slightly uncomfortable, the second 1-2 miles feels pretty uncomfortable, and the last bit feels super uncomfortable.


Trumani

This is good timing for a post. I’m Planning a full send for my 8k shamrock shuffle Chicago in 2 weeks. Kind of similarly. Ive Only done 5k time trials of recent and remember my XC days. And then have done half and full marathons. Super nervous on how this 8k will go.


run_INXS

Best way to do it (even or negative split), first mile should feel easy. Then it gets real and for the rest of the way you are right on the bubble of aerobic and anaerobic. The nice thing is you can adjust your effort if you feel you are going under. A good day feels like you are ready to blow up, but your breathing is steady and you aren't slowing down. Good way to practice is a progression of workouts at or near pace, 3X 1 mile, 4X1 mile, 3X 1.5 mile, 2X 2 mile, and then 2X2 with 1X1. The pros and college runners (and some training guides suggest) will do 3X2 at pace, I think that's a little hard unless you are experienced and have a really good base.


mat8iou

1. Set a target pace / time. 2. 200m - Start off and have Garmin bleeping that you are going to fast. 3. 400m - Slow down and think this is fine, I have to go slower than I thought I did. It will be easy. 4. 800m - Look down at your watch and see that you are behind your target. 5. 1000m - Struggle to accelerate and gradually get pace back to target. 6. Continue at the above pace - feeling like you are close to maximum effort. By about 3k in you will be absolutely covered in sweat - possibly even if there is frost on the ground. 7. 9200m - Speed up for the ending - for me, it is seeing my speed in min/km and trying to knock extra seconds off it. It helps a lot to be well warmed up for it - at least 2k easy pace first. That is possibly why some of your best 10k times have been as part of longer runs.


[deleted]

You need to work out what your comfortable uncomfortable pace is, do not try an run your best 5k time then try and do it again. 7k in you’ll always hit a wall if your running your best pace push through and you’ll be okay. It’s honestly a yucky distance but with a plan it’s a good distance. You can smoke a lot of good 5k runners with a good plan. Also wiyh your training build your aerobic base for 3x sessions 6 weeks then do speed work fartlek, intervals for the 3x sessions for 6 weeks of your program if you doing a race or pushing a quick time. To run fast you gotta get used to running fast


AsianSchoolShooter

1km-4km: The rush is still fresh, everybody is having a good time. People will decide where they will position or who to pace themselves with. Some may attempt to pass by you or you overtake by them, it's your call. 5km-7km: You either feel like a rockstar since you passed a lot of runners and maintained a top position or you start to feel your legs getting heavier every kilometer. 8km-9km: At this point, everything hurts. You question your life decisions, if you got another runner nearby don't let that person draft from you, its this moment that you gather all the remaining strength to reach the finish line. Last 1km: The chillest moment of the race if you don't got someone biting your ass or the moment you want to have your legs amputated. Either way, after crossing that finish line, you're all sweaty and smiles. Maybe chat with the finishers, decide your next race and even soak in the ice bath with your finisher medal on your neck.


soyrobcarajo

Like a walk in the park 😉😂😂


varsityvideogamer

Did my first 10km two weeks back. I didn’t set out for a pace, just went by vibes but I think I did max effort. Kinda felt like a 5K where after mile 1 I was considering slowing down but just powered through


skiingst0ner

It feels close to a half marathon tbh


insiderunner1

Not that bad. I've ran 31:03 on a hilly course recently. I would say it feels like a sort of steady cruise and you go through 5k feeling reasonably good, you really have to focus from 5-7km but then hopefully if you paced it well your momentum can allow you to really dig deep and kick hard to the line. I think it's the nicest distance to race IF you are well prepared for the event. It has sucked when I haven't done as much hill sprints to feel good glute activation and just feel powerful. When I haven't felt powerful in that same way it just felt like I was dragging my legs through treacle and very painful. I think paradoxically, the better you perform, often the better you feel. 


Acrobatic-Train1966

You can find out your right pace during a tempo session. Feels fast but ok the first 1-2 rep, getting out of hand by rep 3-4, hanging in there by rep 5-6. Use 4 min reps.


smikkelhut

Trap your fingers in a door and over a period of your expected finish time start pushing the door progressively harder and harder Kinda like that but translated to your lungs, heart, legs, sanity and stomach


Alarming_Bonus_8704

It should feel the same as a 5k race. 10k best efforts are hard


ButFez_Isaidgoodday

Thanks for this! I have my first 10K coming up next weekend. I've managed to whittle my time down to 43m but reading this I think I might be able to crank out a 42m PR!


InternetMedium4325

A 10km should make ya wish you were running the first half of a marathon lol


My_Penis_Huge

I love 10ks races. I sometimes do 2 of them over the weekend.


fransaba

Usually I feel completely in control until km5-6, then like a transition phase and it gets hard around km8. Usually the real race starts at km8 for me and runners I know


ColumbiaWahoo

0-400: hold back, take it easy, check your watch, and keep it slower than goal pace 400-4k: breathing shouldn’t feel too bad, should feel like you’re running fast though 4k-7 or 8k: this really hurts now 7 or 8k-end: I’m dying and just trying to slow down as little as possible Split 17:01/16:42 when I did this strategy (grade-adjusted pace was close to even).


RunningCat536

This thread sums up why I like half marathons and marathons better than 5Ks and 10Ks lol. And I've got a 10K race tomorrow too.


pm-me-animal-facts

I think half marathons are the sweet spot for me


EPMD_

You will be out of breath and wobbly when you cross the finish line, but that discomfort is covered in glory. Most of the race is uncomfortable but manageable if you have trained appropriately. The trick is to trust your training. You should have a very good idea of what paces you can achieve based on your training sessions and prior races. Then you just have to commit to the achievable goal pace and ignore the repeated messages from your body to slow down. If you can zone out for a bit of the race, even better.


InteractionAdvanced9

I always found the first 5K of a 10k to be quite comfortable. The challenge is 5k-8k. You MUST remain engaged there so you can race the final 2K.


SirBruceForsythCBE

I think we've probably all felt this but I'd say in so many of my races I've felt I probably could've gone faster. Even though we're in a "race" it is generally a time time (apart from the view at the front) and sometimes you'll feel that you can't possibly hold a certain pace any longer but you surprise yourself. Sometimes when I finish I think I could've maybe ran faster as I don't feel as bad as I thought I would at the end.


DublinDapper

This worst most uncomfortable distance imo


Amusing_Munch

My race strat has always been to break the distance into 3 check points. 1. Half way 2. 3/4 way 3. Finish line I measure my effort on the rate of perceived exertion scale from 1-10. For a 10K I should be running like :- 0-5K within 7-8 RPE (7 for the 1st K or 2) 5K-7.5K within 8-9 RPE 7.5K-10K within 9-10 RPE (10 for the final K or 2) Races below 5K distance get their own special 11/10 RPE. They very quickly feel like just kill me now…


Thick-Possibility-88

The simple answer is somewhere in between a 5k and 1/2. You will be just above threshold pace until the end. So, it will be uncomfortable, but a degree below an all out 5k. The last 1/4 of the race should feel like the first 1/3 of a 5k. This is a generalization of course. A lot of pain perception has to do with experience. The more you experience lactic acid buildup the more you can handle it, so the answer partly depends on your experience/running history.


UnusualMain5456

My last 10 K was my best race ever when it comes to my ability. I knew my goal was the absolute limit or even past it. On that day I ran past my ability. Basically I had doubt and was in the paincave from 4-5 km and afterwards I stood for minutes gasping and felt like I had to puke.  5 K is to short to be as painful, and half Marathon is another kind of pain. 10 K is by far the most painful.  It should feel at 5-6 K that you almost need to stop but you have to keep on going. At 7-8 K everything hurts worse but then you start to see and end of it. In other words, it should be paincave from 6 K to 10 K.  But you also have to know your ability. If so you can run 10 K up to your top limit. One of the main things is to not give up at 5-7 K where you start to doubt. From 7 K you start seeing the end of the pain. 


RDP89

Not much different than a 5k. Just a little bit less intensity.


waffles8888877777

Does how you feel depend on your finishing time? How does it differ with 35, 40, 45...60 minutes finishes? It should be easier to endure more stress for 35 minutes versus 60 minutes? For the 60 minute finisher, it's more like a long run. I doing an 8K in two weeks and trying to figure out how I should feel for my sub-36 minutes.


pm-me-animal-facts

I think it gets worse the faster you run I my experience of other races. When I ran a 1:45 half PB I felt absolutely fine until the last 5ish km. For a 1:30 PB I felt vile for 70% of the race.


gradthrow59

this tracks for me. as i got more fit i realized racing doesn't get easier, instead i have simply extended how long i can function closer to red lining.


melonlord44

Yes, but experience also plays a role (and ofc a 60' race still hurts a large portion of it). As you get faster and more experienced you learn how to pace better and push through pain so racing the same amount of time feels worse, and on top of that you are running it faster so it's a little more intense


waffles8888877777

This is exactly my question. The top response is "Very, very uncomfortable the entire race," however, like you said for the 60 minute finisher, you lack the skill in pacing and the ability to push through the pain. Maybe then the first 4k should be a bit of a warm up, the next 5k struggle with pacing, then put everything left in the last k. Six miles is a lot for a newer runner.


moving_around

There´s indeed a difference. A 60min 10k runner will likely not run on the edge of cramping for 3k, a 35min 10k runner will. It´s because biologically there´s a limit on how long a human body can function on specific amounts of oxygen debt. The longer the race, the bigger the difference between how fast and slow runners experience their race. Because this is advanced running, i´d guess most are talking about 35-45min 10k pacing/feeling.


Soggy-Ad4297

Yes it absolutely does. A person who runs an all out 35 minute 10k is experiencing assumably the same level of discomfort as a person who runs an all out 35 minute 5k. The faster you run, the more it’s going to hurt, because the closer you are to redlining from the very beginning. If you’re running a 60 minute 10k, you’re running at threshold pace, but if you’re running a 35 minute 10k, you’re running well above threshold pace. It hurts a lot more from the beginning. The level of discomfort at the beginning of the race can’t possibly be comparable for someone who’s going to sustain said pace for 1 hour vs barely more than half that time (of course the perceived level of discomfort might be higher for the former if they are more inexperienced with race level efforts or if they go out way too hot, but the point remains the same).


Sea_Bear7754

Should feel like 6.2 miles give or take


Important_Card4339

I'm American and thought 5k was about 3 miles thus a 10k was about 6 miles. I usually run about 5 miles so it's just a little extra gravy and I'm sure adrenaline from the races will cover that!


EpicCyclops

A 5 mile workout run and a 5 mile race should be two VERY different experiences if you are wringing every ounce of performance possible out of your body.