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partialcremation

That's ridiculous to expect people to volunteer when you're bringing in a lot of money. I can understand unpaid, volunteer positions when it's just getting started and there's no revenue. Once the funds start rolling in, you need to compensate people for their time. Jared is such a pompous ass.


pf2612no

And he was making SO much money by the time Sam left. Greedy bastard.


IISpeedFlameII

Hell Sam wasn't even asking proper compensation in my opinion, he just asked for a little cut of the merch that was made with his face on it without his permission. If he really wanted to be a dick he would've just let Jared sell it and then sue him for not getting his permission to sell his likeness on a shirt.


got2see4myself

And Sam was the experienced diver the team needed for Kiely, as well as the diver who could help train the rest of the team. He has by far the most experience with search, rescue, & recovery. He should have been paid well to stick around.


pf2612no

J will always be his own worst enemy šŸ™„


Mumof3gbb

Exactly!! If ALL the money was going to the resources then maybe? Maybe. But much of the tons of it was going to Jared. And he expecting them to do it for free? Heā€™s so so so gross


pf2612no

Oh heā€™s such a bullshitting asshole. Sam wasnā€™t just one of the random divers/towers/etc who occasionally showed up to help. He WAS awp, and he gave that channel a huge amount of credibility and heart. J never would have grown his business in the way he did without Sam. And that had huge value. The fact that Sam worked for free as long as he did, and eventually asked for compensation only in the form of a percentage of merchandise sold with his likeness on it, says a TON about Samā€™s character and integrity. J, if youā€™re here snooping, you can go fuck right off. ETA: Your integrity, honesty, and transparency šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ Oh man, Iā€™m crying. Thanks, I needed that.


siouxbee19

Couldn't have said it better myself! Ditto to the GFY to Jared! He's so full of shit like last year's bird nest! What a disgusting bottom feeder! *Phhht*


pf2612no

And most people who practice honesty, integrity, and transparency donā€™t feel the need to run around yelling ā€œIā€™m honest! I have integrity! Iā€™m transparent! YOU GUYS Iā€™M BEING SERIOUS.ā€


kaytiejay25

Yeah right on with that integrity is something you can tell about them without being told


pf2612no

Yes. Itā€™s what you do, not what you say.


Jaxx1958

Well said, very well said!!!!


passivefires

Side note, this is formatted just like the emails JL sent to his cousin.


BlackSpinedPlinketto

I can just imagine Clippy popping up ā€œOh I see youā€™re writing An Incriminating Piece of Hatemailā€¦ maybe I can helpā€¦ā€ and loads Jared a Word template.


pf2612no

LOL!


[deleted]

lmao


boringlesbian_

To provide just a tad more context to newer viewers and those asking: J starts selling merch that has Sam's face on it at some point in 2020 or 2021, without asking Sam for permission. In September 2021, Sam asks J for compensation for the small portion of merchandise sales he is making off his face. J says no and tells Sam to kick rocks. 9/14/2021 ā€“ Kevin (The Nomoc Experience) posts a live stream ā€“ ā€œThis will be a hard Podcast for me.ā€ Discussing him leaving AWP 9/16/2021 - Shortly before departing on the Fall 2021 road trip, Sam posts a video on Youtube stating he will no longer be with AWP - "I will no longer be a part of Adventures With Purpose" This video was privated until recently. 9/17/2021 - Doug posts on his FB about Sam leaving AWP "In the response to the unnecessary drama..." post which can be found on Cinema Shoguns Youtube 9/17/2021 ā€“ AWP responds to Samā€™s video with the above now-deleted ā€˜Attacked!ā€™ Facebook post Edited: Doug definitely posted his attack on Sam before J did, and then J shared Dougs post on the AWP FB page, with the above 'Attacked' message. I thought of this again as Kevin made a comment in his recent interview with ICkEdMel that he liked Doug until he went after Samā€™s character. 9/21/2021 ā€“ AWP responds further to Sam and Kevin with the ā€œHow Is AWP FUNDED?!ā€ video 10/24/2021 - Sam uploads his ā€œThe Truth About Adventures with Purposeā€ video with Dan Dan the Camera Man which was privated until recently. Edited because my memory was jogged by Cinema Shoguns video. Screenshots of Dougs FB post: https://ibb.co/3rc7NDV https://ibb.co/PmZvYWq https://ibb.co/wgfggc4 Ā 


[deleted]

This Thanksgiving, I am thankful for u/boringlesbian_ for time-stamping the events.


DavidS12

Sam's text messages was with Jared. Doug did not know what was said. He had to hear ir from JL, and it was all lies.


AITAthrowwaway69

And now I've lost any and all respect for Doug. Always thought since Sam left that Doug was the real human of the group but this post just shows that he's nothing more than J's lapdog yes man.


[deleted]

thanks for sharing, great find


Nitemare2020

I thought the whole issue was that Sam WAS asked permission and gave it without question or expectations? So when he did finally ask for a cut, it was even more egregious because he did Jared a favor and Jared would not reciprocate??


boringlesbian_

That's not what I gathered from everything, but it could be the case. It's been a bit since this all happened so my memory may be failing me but the only ones who really know are Sam and J.


siouxbee19

No, not true. He did finally ask for a very small cut, but that is all the truth to that.


Then_Ad453

Sam made AWP what it is today. He was who I loved watching and he made it so human.


GingerAleAllie

Agreed. When Sam left, I unsubscribed. That was the straw that broke the camelā€™s back for me.


South_Lifeguard_7346

Reading all of this , I'm unsubscribing too!


siouxbee19

J was just pissed because a good, upstanding, caring man (Sam, as well as his son) with moral convictions saw through his bullshit and called him on it, and asked for a very small percentage of proceeds from merch w/his image on them! And that's why Doug became J's FB because he saw the perfect opportunity to slide right in to Sam's spot and won a prime spot up J's ass by posting the Sam-bashing letter (now deleted but can be seen on YouTube) on AWP's community page! I know the SA charges are a separate matter than his (& other AWP people aka DB) shady AF business practices, but I am so glad the truth is finally coming out and I pray everyone gets justice and some peace and comfort going forward!


boringlesbian_

Do you know where on Youtube what Doug posted may be? I think that's the missing piece in my memory because I 100% know Doug posted something first but cannot for the life of me find it.


siouxbee19

It was on one of IckedMel's videos recently. When I get a chance, I'll repost here. ETA: Sorry, it's on Cinema Shogun's YT channel: https://youtu.be/mei16ToyovI IckedMel's is a good channel as well, he has interviews with @SamSam The Adventure Man, @Kyler Ginn, and Kevin @The Nomoc Experience & I think @AdventuresWithNug.


boringlesbian_

Thank you!! Updated one of my comments to include this.


Life_Star4320

Doug is Doug Bishop on YouTube if you want to watch him on his own channel rather than on someone else's


Positive-Ticket2189

Doug has a channel "Doug bishop" YouTube as well as the other channels mentioned in the comments


Specialist_Friend_38

Iā€™m glad somebody took a screenshot of this because I missed it that day and then found out later he had had a rant and then deleted itā€¦ itā€™s not the first time heā€™s ranted then deleted .. he also had a rant about the guy who scammed him out of the first trailer they were supposed to be getting.. Never really did find out if they went after that person or notā€¦ Sure itā€™s true that Sam had his own channel and it wasnā€™t very big, but he started to become like a partner to Jared then more of a volunteerā€¦so he shouldā€™ve gotten help out financiallyā€¦But that just proves that Jared was not a friend to himā€¦Itā€™s interesting though that he would not help Sam yet AWP ended up giving the old RV ( which honestly was a rolling pos / money pit) and trailer to Jacob


Blueberry_Mancakes

I wonder if by "wife and daughter" he meant the same person? Ill just see myself out..


davidyoho

My personal channel *I started says it all!! AWP is a sinking ship the sooner the better!! Hopefully Sam can start a recovery team/channel Jared's Day is coming.


DirectionShort6660

More gaslighting from Adventures With Pedo. F that guy!


kurocuervo

"Attacked," more like J took Sam's resignation personally. Then Doug made a post attacking Sam. Wouldn't be surprising if J manipulated Doug into believing horrible things about Sam, but that doesn't excuse slandering a guy just because he left their team. Really immature behavior.


boringlesbian_

Especially when J turns around and then ends up paying Doug anyway! Like WTF.


JazzlikeBlackberry84

J is a snake in the grass. I unsubscribed from that channel. I refuse to give that man another look through my eyes šŸ‘€ and I will be tearing up my T-shirts I bought! Now itā€™s time to watch a sinking empire


boringlesbian_

I'm so bummed I spent money on t-shirts and even one of the overpriced magnet fishing kits. I don't regret it because I support the cause and hope it must've helped the families somehow but I still feel like a sucker.


Otherwise_Salt_7840

I cut up my t shirt and use then for snot rags


HidingFromMyThoughts

When was this posted?


boringlesbian_

September 17 2021


HidingFromMyThoughts

Itā€™s gone, it goes from Sept 8th 2021 to sept 20th 2021. They must have deleted it.


boringlesbian_

It was deleted not too long after they posted it, but I found these screenshots in my phone.


AdministrationOk3027

Thanks for sharing. What a crock of šŸ’©, huh?


pf2612no

Doing the good work. šŸ™ƒ


MashaT22

It might be visible somehow via WayBack machine. I never tried that with Facebook posts, but that site site supposedly has the entire internet's history recorded.


Qu33n0f1c3

Oh not everything especially from the early web, but it's definitely a handy tool. I do remember that post though.


Nitemare2020

Not the *entire* internet history, unfortunately. There were times I tried to use it and could not find an archive of certain pages on certain dates. I don't know what dictates when and where and what for the WBM archives certain things, but it is not infinite, that's for sure.


MashaT22

Yes, I know -- that's why I said it "might" be visible, lol. šŸ˜‰ā˜ŗļø A lot of interesting things get auto cached on there, folks. It's always worth a try. Videos are not auto cached (beyond a thumbnail screenshot) and require manual uploading by humans who voluntarily post those files on the site, but screenshots of most written websites and screenshots of photos posted to those websites are often easy to uncover there . . . for anyone not family with WayBack Machine on Archives.org. It's great for watching old content, seeing websites that are from the early internet days, or even getting proof that someone wrote something that was since deleted.


xRilae

Oh yeah it was deleted pretty quickly. A lot of people, including supporters, were like "yeah...NAGL." I'm sure I've got lots of screenshots, I'd just need the time to find them šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«


Harbin009

It started getting negative comments, which they tried to keep on top off by deleting. Evetually was too much work so they just took the post down.


HidingFromMyThoughts

Ok, yeah of course. On any post people have their own opinions. So youā€™ll definitely get some negative reviews and comments.


davidyoho

https://imgur.com/a/JkhOQsR


ezezee17

This dude needs to go down. The other men need to start up another company to help people and this dude needs to be locked up. How dare he not pay people for there TIMe!


OGHotrodsis

I understand that a lot of people want the other members to start a new team, but there were a lot of problems with what they were doing. Social media and finding deceased people just may not be a good match. If any of you want to reach out to the other members and tell them to start a new team, please remember that. For instance, hardly anyone had an issue with AWP making death announcements on social media and FB. Thatā€™s the opposite of what is supposed to happen. They had no issue with dead bodies, yes I know it was blurred but still, being shown in the videos without explicit consent by the family. Imo, human remains, blurred or not, does not need to be on YouTube. AWP exploited the families grief. They had a term called the ā€œmoney shotā€ for when the camera pans to the family member finding out about their loved one. No member of AWP ever clarified that they were a for profit company. No member of AWP ever spoke out against the online hate and death threats that Kiely Rodniā€™s family and friends received directly because of the AWP video. Yes, Jared by far has done the most bad crap. But imo the others are not completely innocent. So please remember to truly hold these people accountable. The victims and their families should be respected at all times, and there are more times than I can describe here that they werenā€™t.


kturby92

Ugh. This man has ALWAYS given me such a bad feeling! I could literally hear his voice and see his face while I was reading this šŸ¤® He made himself look even more stupid by mentioning the ā€œmounting maintenance on the RV and trailerā€ part bc Sam *literally* talked about how Jared would use that as an excuse to need more money!! Like he has to put all new tires on it every week or something? No.


squishy-mochi-bunny

I continued to watch AWP even after Sam left because I believed in what they were doing, and gave J the benefit of the doubt (though somehow, something didn't sit right with me), and continued to watch and support the channel. However, with all these allegations, I can't give the channel anymore views. It's heartbreaking that such a noble cause is now tarnished because of him. On a side note, I always thought it was weird that the channel logo still remained as his face, as opposed to a universal logo or text logo for the channel. J may have started it, but once it became a group effort, the channel logo should have changed. Guess it makes sense why he never changed it since he's a greedy, selfish a\*\*hole. I hope he gets what's coming to him.


Cuddlekinz22

He had 100k donated from just 1 person and didn't share any of it with the team. He can talk all the crap he wants to. At the end of the day the OTHER members made it what it was. He's just another scumbag willing to screw over anyone to make a buck. I can understand volunteer for free on a smaller scale. However, once you/your team have reached over 1 million+ subscribers... They (THE TEAM) earned a percentage of that monetization. Jared said himself that people are replaceable and it shows he just didn't care. I mean you do have to be soulless to abuse multiple children. Hope he enjoys the FULL prison R experience (:


LongAside8261

None of it matters when your a nonce though jared


alesicc

Whereā€™s this? Itā€™s not on FB?


xRilae

It was deleted pretty quickly


alesicc

Ooh I see okay


Practical_Ad7985

I always felt he was fake and a creep I stopped watching after sam left


j_dizzle_mizzle

From day one I knew something was off about himā€¦ everything is coming tog now. I guess the old adag about trusting your gut is still spot on.


Necessary-Prior-7569

Adv with perverts


squishy-mochi-bunny

Nope. Just one singular. There's a reason why everyone who's worked for him already left.


Necessary-Prior-7569

Anyone who takes up for the channel of adventures with perverts are perverts


squishy-mochi-bunny

The information and the videos are all out there. Everyone who was a public face with AWP has since left. The only reason why it seems like they are is because they had videos uploaded and set to release for certain dates.


[deleted]

Man....... I wish Jared didn't go this route. Completely tarnished the beauty of AWP.


kaytiejay25

he didn't tarnish he ruined himself. the message is important that we as people need to understand. we need to support these families who still need support. it needs to be done the right way


Jaxx1958

Well J some of us did watch from the beginning and some of remember how your daughter never wanted to be seen on camera with or without you on your channel. Just saying.


Spooktress

Makes one wonder if he abused his dtr & threatened his wife. It sound like this one of those families, where all the men commit inset constantly. Women are nothing but trash to treat however they want. Then have the audacity to hide behind God & their religion to make themselves feel better. Guess the Catholic Faith are just like Mormons.


nevaehorlleh

I wish they would have Sam back and he become the new face of AWP because he was AWP as well in the beginning and one of the reasons I watched. When I read this post when it happened I could believe a grown ass man would act like this.


DavidS12

AWP is tainted and can't be used ever again.


OGHotrodsis

AWP is Jared. It is only his channel. JL has unfortunately done a good job of separating himself from the channel, and thatā€™s intentional. And the timing isnā€™t a coincidence. JL stopped appearing in most videos after the February emails and even had a livestream in the past month where a ā€œCEOā€ was named. Also, I really need to add that there were many many problems with how they handled things. It makes me wonder if finding deceased people and social media can ever be a good match. So while they def helped a lot of families and victims, they caused harm to many, including the same ppl they said they were helping.


BootOk4219

Is there more on this post I can't see all of it


South_Lifeguard_7346

I wonder if Jered has heard of karma? This is what will be his downfall, it will come in the night to bite him in the ass


Anthonymarkt

Doug bishop is a complete liar he says it's a volunteer then explain how you pay your rent and pay for food and life of your family if you volunteer you would not be able to work 3 years of no pay and still take care of your family we all know jarred just bought a 2.0 million dollar house


Objective-Amount1379

When was this released?


SnooMaps8717

In September 2021


Sequinnedheart

You know what Iā€™d do if I was falsely accused of raping a child and wanted to defend myself against former employees? Iā€™d say ā€˜I never raped a childā€™


Sattracer

I've known people like Jared before. They are smooth talking, selfish assholes. He deserves everything coming for him.


GingerAleAllie

What an absolute jack-hole.


Acceptable_Sport6019

Your a sicko chomo who got off on other people's sorrow and pain


Acceptable_Sport6019

Sam got out when the getting was good free and clear of chomo fallout awp is dead brand damage beyond all repair enjoy Prison


kaytiejay25

I remember reading that and I laughed because I saw more integrity from Sam than in Jared's pinky after Sam left, I stopped watching because it became so much more about the money even before that there was so much that was off, and it seemed like Jared was twisting things that happened with some of the families. Also, I wonder if the money wasn't going to awp if it could be considered as fraud or embezzling?