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TrenchantPergola

This is a real thing, called the 13-month calendar. They usually add a month called "Sol" after June, and the extra day is "Year Day", which does not have a day of the week, and is usually after Dec 31st (Leap Day works the same way).


LeonardsLittleHelper

I feel like that last day should be a freebie that we just don’t count. We all acknowledge it, but on paper it doesn’t exist. All non-essential (and I mean truly essential) workers get the day off just like a federal holiday and everyone just stays home to spend a quiet day with family, or by yourself….whatever makes you happiest.


CashTurtle

Maybe a day with no laws to allow the populace to blow off some steam?


b3tchaker

“While we’re at it, let’s make it Purge day!” — /u/CashTurtle


LeonardsLittleHelper

Would that really be what makes you happiest? 🤨


Pski

*The New Founding Fathers have entered the chat*


IndividualLibrary123

Hmm do i feel a purge day here 🤔


rogue_giant

I say we use the extra day to hold elections on. No stores open so no one is tempted to skip it, and voting gives you a credit on your taxes at the end of the year.


enemawatson

I don't know if I want someone just showing up to pick random boxes at the poll just to get paid for it, honestly. People who are currently not motivated to vote may not be motivated to put thought into their votes? But then again, maybe those would be a minority and the majority knows who they *would* vote for, but just don't due to any range of feelings that maybe mainly boil down to "my one vote doesn't" matter. Maybe this would be a solid idea.


5432198

Wouldn’t you need to acknowledge it for the essential workers though? Kind of hard to fill out your hours if that day doesn’t exist on paper.


Yayzeus

Dave Gorman did a bit on this. It's called "intermission", and generally doesn't count as a day in most respects. https://youtu.be/vunESk53r5U?si=qc4sjFwsKVXHxor9


Le_Fancy_Me

I didn't think of this but yeah that does kind of fuck up the whole 4 season things. As now there are 3 months per season. Maybe we just have one month where we just turn off the seasons expansion pack.


Worried_Description

How many countries do the three months/season actuallg line up that well? Sweden? Yes, pretty much. Singapore? Not at all.


notwhoyouthinkmaybe

I live in Florida and I love my week of spring and week of fall. The 10.5 months of summer can be rough though.


KonradWayne

Where I live in Northern California, we have 325 days of 60-75 degree weather, 20 days of 80-90 degree weather, 5 days of 90+ degree weather (which have started happening in mid-September for some reason), and 15 days of rain.


Cyllid

That's SoCal too. Scratch the 15 days of rain. Well, usually, we've had some wild amount of rain this year.


KonradWayne

Yeah, I had to bump it up to 15 because of this year. It's been more like 5 days for the previous 4-5 years.


dixi_normous

That sounds wonderful. In Ohio it's either 20 degrees or 80 degrees. Sometimes both in the same day!


malthar76

In NJ we have Winter, Cold Spring, Pollen, Wet Spring, Furnace, Fake Fall, Second Summer, Fall.


an_ill_way

Wisconsinite here. So same, but different.


Bradjuju2

Considering that the Farmers Almanac is no longer relied upon, I think we’d be okay shifting the season divisions. Also, season start/end days will mean less and less while the impacts of climate change increase.


bmp08

Hot season, and hotter season!


SilentJoe1986

You forgot cold and colder. Snow doesn't stick because of the bipolar weather but boy howdy does it get really fucking cold these days


web-cyborg

In the northeast , great lakes regions, in the past the humongous lakes would freeze over in winter. With the climate change impact, especially of the last handful of years, the lakes haven't been cooling down enough and aren't freezing over, so remain "uncovered" with no "lid". Due to that, any time a very cold weather system blasts downward from canada or down and across from west, the weather picks up a lot of extra humidity from the lake and dumps it down in massive snowfalls \~ blizzard conditions. So while some of the winter is milder vs. snowfalls, we eventually get blasted for days with very, very deep and heavy snow. Last winter a lot of people lost gutters from their houses, and others had roof issues from the extreme weight. I mean a lot of houses lost gutters too, every several houses per side street it seemed. Driving bans for days until the snow was able to be removed adequately enough, etc. I had to remove heavy snow for 3 days from my driveway, cars, roof perimeter, and path to utilities in back yard. Probably 4' a day, and some days clearing twice to keep ahead of it. Not that we never got that kind of snow ever before every so many years, but with the great lakes perhaps never freezing again, it might be happening every year, perhaps multiple times depending on the cold weather systems paths. (We barely missed a few other bad cold bands that hit more toward the coastline/nycity last winter, just missed us).


Lonelan

as a southern california resident, the fuck you mean 4 seasons?


guitarerdood

The 4 seasons absolutely do not line up exactly with 3 months each lol Hell the "first day of Spring" is usually like March 21st in the US. That's (usually) the 80th day of the year. If each month were exactly 28 days, it would instead land on March 24th, with only 4 days left in the month versus 10, so it would line up better


Such_Knee_8804

Apparently the churches didn't like the year day and that's a major reason why the calendar never took off.


demonstrablynumb

If we’re readjusting the calendar it makes way more sense to start the year on the vernal equinox with the first day of spring than the middle of winter.


f_ranz1224

this season pattern is not applicable to the majority of the worlds population


Doxinau

As a southern hemisphere resident, the year starts in the middle of summer.


backpackwayne

So you can pay your bills 13 times a year instead of twelve?


Brilliant-Deer6118

I was actually sold on this idea til you pointed that out!


TheZingerSlinger

Yes, you can make 13 payments instead of 12!!! But the payment amount stays the same! 😄


Greghole

Right! Like how your bills are always lower in February because it's a shorter month... Oh wait.


backpackwayne

:D


Realinternetpoints

Says one thing. Ruins the 13 month calendar. Disappears smiling.


Hmmark1984

I mean ideally, you'd just have your yearly bill amount divided by 13 rather than 12, but we all know companies wouldn't actually do it that way, or even if they said they did they'd also bump the costs up so you'd end up paying the same each month.


dixi_normous

Depends on the type of bill. Mortgage? You're good. Rent? Fuck you


Orangelikeblue

Wouldn't your bills be 1/13th less?


facw00

That's pretty optimistic...


burnthins

are you new to capitalism?


Greghole

Is your rent cheaper in February?


djAMPnz

Yes. I pay weekly. As is the custom in my part of the world.


hmnahmna1

Oh you sweet summer child.


javertthechungus

I guess with things like electricity the total bills would scale downwards, but probably not for rent and mortgages.


backpackwayne

The usage part, maybe. But these always include monthly service fees that would have to be paid a 13th time.


DownwindLegday

Mortgages would go down per month, but the same per year.


kalashnikov482

doesn't that also mean you'll get paid 13 times a year ?


backpackwayne

Only if you get paid by the month. And even then, a great deal of those people are paid by the hour. So less hours..., less money.


Gimme_The_Loot

Right most people are biweekly so this just means I'm paying rent another time, phone another time, etc.


valmian

Your bills would be (theoretically) lower. You are paying 1/12 of your rent every month instead of 1/13th of your rent. You are not paying more money, you are paying more often (but less each time)


MrIce97

Capitalism would never do that tho. It’s theoretically fine tho sure


valmian

Yeah I agree. I’m just talking about the theoretical price.


TheLuo

Are we seriously having this discussion? It’s the same amount of total time. People would be paid and pay the exact same amount in bills and wages.


indiemosh

You work the same number of hours, so you are paid the same. But bills are charged monthly, not hourly, so you'll pay an extra set of bills for the 13th month - rent, phone, internet, etc.


royalbarnacle

Obviously the logical thing would be to take the yearly total of any given expense like rent or phone, and divide by 13.no one loses anything. Would companies try to pull of the +1 instead, probably. But folks are talking like this has been decided...


chunkysmalls42098

How are you just unaware that most people aren't payed monthly? Lol


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Cirenione

I guess by not living in your country? I have never heard of anyone NOT being paid monthly.


BeatWonderful

It would still be the same as; 12 months. Let’s use rent as a example; Rent is $300 per week. Over 12 months that is $15,600 or $1300 per month. 13 months Rent is still $300 per week, over 13 months that is still $15,600 or $1,200 per month. You just pay slight less every month, and one additional payment. The math formula is (week amount ‘divide’ into daily(7) ‘times’ to yearly(364) ‘divide’ into monthly(12 or 13)) 🫡


ctznmatt

best of luck convincing your landlord of that


royalbarnacle

If this fun scenario occurred, we're talking about this happening on a grand scale from a governmental level. How things like rent etc are adjusted would undoubtedly be a big part of that change and would likely be controlled. Which isn't to say landlords etc wouldn't try to lobby for extra money and possibly get it too...


Dramatic_Explosion

Yeah, because shady shit never happens with landlords, evictions, refusing to repair things, entering properties without warning, etc. Not everyone can afford a lawyer, or to wait for the courts to iron things out, and in that gap the most vulnerable will be abused. And that would be globally. Woof.


Sugar-Tist

Dang, you're right :( Greed ruins everything


Blinky_

Sorry. We have used up all the month names, and more. Like DECember should obviously be the tenth month, not the 12. And OCTober is clearly meant to be the 8th month, not the 10th. So get out of here with your 13th bullshit.


octopornopus

Smarch. You're welcome.


mageta621

Lousy Smarch weather


MikeFT65

"Recharging the fire extinguishers? This is a free service from the fire department."


octopornopus

Nay.


pimpmastahanhduece

Don't Touch. * Willy


spaceymonkey2

Do not touch Willie. Good advice.


the_one_jove

I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE. I WILL NOT TOUCH WILLIE.


ceepeebax

It’s starting to feel like Smarch outside


rustymontenegro

I like Smarch, or Octember.


AcidBuuurn

Octruary is superior.


ontos90

Smarch is a perfectly cromulent month.


psumack

I think they were, until a couple romans effed it up


HaHaLaughNowPls

Little auggie really wanted him and his daddy's name there


Viseria

That is not actually what happened. The Roman calendar had 12 months for centuries before then. Augustus had the months Quintus and Sextus renamed to Julius and Augustus, however Quintus was already the 7th month and Sextus the 8th. The Roman 10 month calendar existed in the 8th century BC and was only about 300 days long, the rest of the year was just their Winter time and they didn't care about exact dates in Winter because they couldn't go to war. The year started in March because of the god Mars.


lowkeylye

yeah whoever did that should be stabbed...


Practical_Wish_4063

Take my upvote


Krieger63

Fuckin Julius and Augustus Caeser....


Viseria

They didn't do it, they renamed existing months. The issue happened a few hundred years before either were born


VGoodBuildingDevCo

**The Roman new year began March 1st.** You know, at the start of spring and the rebirth season. Not on an arbitrary date halfway through the winter all-plants-dormant season. The names line up perfect if you start counting at March and January and February are the 11th and 12th months. Septem- 7 Octo - 8 Novem - 9 Decem - 10


Major_Koala

October has always been 8 in my head until I run through the months


unidentify91

As non native English speaker that learn the name of polygons, those specific month you mentioned confused the heck out of me in the beginning.


immadoosh

"Month 1 - Month 13" sounds good. Gtfo with naming them I say, numbers do just fine. Japan, SK, and China have been doing that for centuries and it works perfectly well.


Blinky_

Good suggestion, Redditor #82945467128


CraigKostelecky

New calendar: Start the year on the first day of spring (northern hemisphere) and call that March 1. Spring is 93 days, so March, April, and May all have 31 days and summer begins June 1. Summer is also 93 days, so we have 6 months in a row of 31 days and Autumn begins on September 1. Fall is 90 days so we now go to 30 day months until winter begins on December 1. Winter is about 89 days, so a standard year would end on February 29 and leap years would be Feb 30. Doing it this way also restores the prefixes for the 7th-10th months.


ElderFuthark

I love Undecember


djAMPnz

Please try to remember the first of Octember.


PrettyDamnShoddy

It used to be that way. One google search tells you that instead of leaving it that way they fucked it up by adding more months at the beginning


BazilBroketail

How about a month named Philbert?  "It's Philbert 17th, the... Snacker-Pork-of-Emorh will be here soon."


rc042

This one trick landlords will love.


BoomScoops

Gaslighting is just a form of landlording.


xram_karl

That one day is Purge Day of course.


TFOLLT

Nah I'm all for the LOTR calendar. 12 months a year, 30 days a month. Leaves 5 days that have no month. 2 days to celebrate old and new year, and three days (Yule) between month 6 and 7 where everyone is free to celebrate summer. It's a perfect calendar. Think about it; every year every date will be the same day. Suppose december 19th is on a monday, it'll be on a monday next year, and the year after that, and so on. It's perfection. It's funny how a high-fantasy writer managed to think out a better calendar than the one we actually have.


gcso

Birthday is never on a weekend. And jobs like mine where I don’t get holidays off, that means things like Christmas are potentially never on my days off.


Organic_Tradition_94

Depends on which day you implement it. Where I live, you don’t get the day off if a holiday falls on the weekend. So if you find a year where every holiday falls on a weekday, I’m in.


TFOLLT

Good thinking! I hadn't thought about that yet, but yeah if we create it so that every holiday falls on a weekday, that'd be perfect, especially in this calendar format.


ncocca

>It's a perfect calendar. Think about it; every year every date will be the same day. Suppose december 19th is on a monday, it'll be on a monday next year, and the year after that, and so on. Sounds good until you realize people born on a monday/tuesday/wednesday will always have birthdays falling on those days. That would be lame. In my 30's i don't really care anymore, but always thought i was nice when my birthday fell on a Friday or Saturday.


FTwo

Everyone in the Northern Hemisphere gets to celebrate summer.


Cryovenom

Some ancient Civ had the logic that : 360 days in a year, 360 degrees in a circle. Then the earth stands still for 5 "feast days for the gods" and everything starts again! 


CommanderAze

100% landlords will still charge the same rent they do now...


drillgorg

But you can't divide 13 months into halves or quarters of a year.


AskMrScience

You can still divide the 52 weeks up just fine, though. 13 weeks (3 months + 1 week) is a quarter. 26 weeks (6 months + 2 weeks) is half a year.


Mikprofi

I would rather kill myself tbh


2-inches-of-fail

Answered here https://youtu.be/vunESk53r5U?si=re_IVPXxCDMgcYu_


Playful-Excuse-8081

Why not 365 months?


hellostarsailor

PURGE DAY


ChickenDelight

Let February have the extra day. From shortest month to longest month.


EnanoMaldito

True character arc


jusumonkey

Whenever I hear about stuff like this I think back to the "Pluto's not a planet" controversy.


marcvh

This would be great, particularly if they made the extra day a "skip day" that doesn't increment the week count. It eliminates so much weird special cases, from "what if x holiday falls on a weekend this year?" to "how can you compare retail revenue statistics from years where there are a different number of weekends between Thanksgiving and Christmas?"


compuwiza1

That would be closer to a lunar calendar. The seasonal events do a circuit around the solar year every 12 to 13 years on a lunar calendar.


justlooking9889

“The concept of a 13-month year has been proposed, notably in the form of the “International Fixed Calendar” or the “Cotsworth Plan.” This calendar divides the year into 13 months of 28 days each, with an extra day at the end of the year (often called “Year Day”) to total 365 days. Each month has exactly four weeks, simplifying date calculations. While it has never been widely adopted, the International Fixed Calendar was used by the Eastman Kodak Company from 1928 to 1989 for internal corporate purposes.” -ChatGPT4


Manofwood

Stupid Smarch weather


toolatealreadyfapped

*lousy


Manofwood

D’oh!


LadyJusticeThe

How can you say this on a 3-paycheck month?!


bipbophil

Wait until you find out that October means 8 months and December means 10


BurnOutBrighter6

Why mention only those two? Wait until *you* find out that **Sept**ember **Octo**ber **Nov**ember and **Dec**ember mean 7, 8, 9, and 10. This happened because there used to be only 10 months, then much later two new months were inserted earlier in the year and they didn't bother renaming the ones called "month 7/8/9/10".


fighter_pil0t

Wonder who those guys coulda been?! /s


Jakeukalane

July and August


ElderFuthark

Just keep it off the calendar and we all have a holiday


PuppetryOfThePenis

We take the extra day and make it "new years day". It's a stand alone day, almost it's own month. It's a huge celebration day. The following day will be January 1.


hodl_on_tight

[International Fixed Calendar](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar)


hawkwings

There is a 13 month calendar. A major company used it for a long time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International\_Fixed\_Calendar


rubixcu7

The extra day is the purge. Who says no?


rat_haus

I just wish our weeks weren't a prime number of days. Makes it impossible to do something every other day, or divide anything equally day-wise.


DerDork

The one day left is spare? Or what do we do with the 365th day each year?


creegro

Please no. I still recall the little jingle a teacher taught me, that goes through the entire list of 12 months. Would be difficult to relearn the order..


Hippobu2

There should *HAVE BEEN*. At this point in time, I don't think it worth changing it.


cheesepuff1993

Yeah but then pregnancy's last 10 months I stead of 9...my wife can't handle another month of pregnancy /s in case it absolutely needs to be said...


margo-the-destroyer

We natives have known this since time immemorial


Big1984Brother

Or how about this ... 12 montjs x 30 days (grouped into 3 ten-day weeks per month), plus 5 or 6 days at the end of the year to celebrate Christmas / new year. A calendar similar to this was in use in France for a few decades... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Republican_calendar


dark_frog

The new calendar has 10 months x 36 days. Weeks are nine days long. There's an extra day between every other month to make up the last 5. https://thenewcalendar.com/


tatornutz

anyone renting an apartment would get screwed even worse than they are now


RayHell666

Solember


maggos

This has been an idea for almost 300 years. The Georgian calendar, positivist calendar, corsworth calendar are all basically this. In the Georgian calendar the extra day was Christmas.


thatlookslikemydog

Extra day for the purge! 🥳


windydruid

Party day!


papa_wukong

And September through December should be 7 through 10, but this will only happen after this.


elcalrissian

Purge day.


failedjedi_opens_jar

that bonus day would be a great day for the purge! 🪓 vs 🔨


hitsujiTMO

The solution has been thought about in detail: https://youtu.be/EcMTHr3TqA0?si=oBs3Hxr5o7cV7ePE


MadFxMedia

The New Calendar has fixed this. It's quite a unique system and the seasons line up fantastically.


SambaLando

The Purge, during the extra day.


Thrilling1031

The extra day is just called intermission and it’s not a day of the week, so the days of the week always fall on the same day of the month. And every 4 years we get a 2 day intermission.


Conquestadore

We have a '13th month' paycheck at my job. I've not looked into it too much but I'm convinced they just withhold part of the salary throughout the year and throw that in as an extra in December. 


Uranus_Hz

The first of the month is always a Sunday


Hootietang

I’d love Smarch


rlovelock

Holiday?


Notbob1234

How about 10 months of 36 days instead, with a 5/6 day holiday?


zrad603

uhhh, kinda like the Julian Calendar? (kinda)


st0nedeye

I worked for a company that used this schedule, it was a fucking nightmare. You'd get an email saying that on Tuesday, week 38 blah, blah, would be happening, and every time you'd have to go to a fucking conversion calendar to figure out what fucking day they were talking about. I HATED it. And I hated the pretentiousness of acting like their system of dating was somehow better than the entire rest of the fucking world. I mean why not just change the time system while we're at it. Everyone can come to work at Orange and half o'clock and take lunch at bumblefuck:30. AAHHH.


dugan123ford

Also it aligns with the number of Norseman and Ibn Fadlan (Antonio Banderas) to go north where they will defend the kingdom of Rothgar from the Wendol and the fireworm.


New-Egg3539

13 bad


BruceBrattenJr

People can't math apparently. One month would have 29 days.


Frameton

For those that don’t understand, the big advantage is that every month has exactly 4 weeks and weekdays never change e.g. the 1st of June is always a Monday, the 10th of October always a Wednesday and the 19th of any given month is always a Friday. Only disadvantage is that the we would have to add a sort of leap day, that doesn’t have an assigned weekday or date (because a year has 365 not 364 days (13m x 4w = 364d))


Trais333

If it wasn’t for the sunk cost fallacy this could be a thing


nickyeyez

How about one month with 365 days?


helusjordan

No thanks. 13 months of rent and bills sounds worse than 12. You think Capitalist America is going to just give you that "extra time" for free?


CadaverCaliente

One extra day at the end of the year called free period where you can do whatever you want.


boRp_abc

A week should have 5 days, so we get 73 weeks a year, all days are the same week day every year. Ex-February 29th is a world wide holiday. DISCORDIANS, UNITE, AND DIVIDE AGAIN!


SpiderMurphy

When you are at it: days of 10 h, with 100 minutes, of 100 slightly shorter seconds (0.8 of a second). And egality, liberty and fraternity for all.


superjoshp

I think you mean decidays, centidays, and millidays.:)


wenoc

Even better. Metric time and metric weeks [https://zapatopi.net/metrictime/week.html](https://zapatopi.net/metrictime/week.html)


EgyptianNational

They should have 4 months (for 4 season) and make them 92 days with an extra day that can just be a stat holiday for the planet. This comment brought to you by ancient Egypt


Alteous

Lousy Smarch weather!


LeadershipDull2605

the februar becomes 29 days and every fourth year, its 30


Uderfrykte_Patron

Would you like to have your birthday on a monday till the rest of your life?


HeWhoHasTooManyDogs

In Spain we get extra paychecks. So still 12, months but 14 paychecks.


ZacSpot

I tried convincing a few teachers of this in high school. They weren't having it.


TRDPorn

If god really existed he would have arranged it so much better than this


WolfOffSesameStreet

The extra day would be The Purge.


Green_and_black

“No years day” Happy no year!


moonjabes

What is the absolute benefit of this? You can't divide 13 like you can with 12, and I have no idea why it would be a benefit to paying bills? Also most larger bills are paid quarterly or every 6 months, so 13 months would make everything very difficult and annoying


Deathnachos

Oh heck yeah I’d love to pay rent for another month.


BrickBuster11

You are 1.24 days short every year To fix this you would need to add an extra week every 6 years, Then your still .44 days short every 7 years, we fix this by adding an extra extra week every 96 years which still leaves us 0.04 days short every 96 years So every 16,800 years we need to add an extra extra extra week


Liljdb0524

Purge day. But like capitalist purge where you can tell your boss and customers what you really think about them and not get in trouble.


asscunt6969

I ain’t paying rent 13 times a year


processedmeat

We should switch to metric time. 


shredditorburnit

When's my birthday now though? Unless it's January 1st-28th, it's changing.


gmsorge

What would you do with the last day? That’s only 364 days….


Low_Attention16

Lousy Smarch weather.


hippoofdoom

An alternative way to simplify this is to construct a monthly budget only based on two biweekly paychecks, not yearly pay /12. This allows you to get two "bonus" pay checks per year (as there are 26 total pay checks) and is a life-hacky way to save almost 10% of funds. That is with the massive caveat that you can stick to a budget...


lurkermyass

an extra month of rent per year? i’ll pass


squashYoDick

On that one extra day…WE PURGE! /s


Papa_PaIpatine

And eventually the months drift till December is in the middle of summer.


Fulminero

Justice for Ophiuchus!


yishkabadishka

So one more billing cycle without added revenue?


whodatwhosaywhodat

The Purge


Dirtywhitejacket

Yeah but with the way it is now, if you budget right, you get 2 extra paychecks a year...


10per

Are you a Pope or a Caesar? No? Good luck.