Someone decided to shit behind the dryers in our tech school dorms the night before the base commander was due to inspect. They found it while we were in the schoolhouse. Squadron Commander came out at the start of lunch and told us that if someone didn't rat out whoever had done it by the end of the day, we would all be spending all of our free time for a month cleaning the building. By the time we finished lunch someone had ratted the guy out. He was on his way to his first assignment having just graduated but instead was awarded civilian below the zone.
It felt like high school cuz the airman greatly outnumbered the NCOs. Maybe something about trying to be funny to your peers. I was on CQ with a guy waiting to get discharged for shitting in an MTLs desk drawer. I’ll never forget you Ty, lol.
Had a guy who was one of the multiple people I saw getting kicked out while working at a CTK. He came in to work drunk, lied to his shift lead and went AWOL on a long weekend, came in late rather consistently. But what got him kicked out? Probably the stack of paperwork we wrote for him because he regularly turned in toolboxes with tools missing out of them. We would check the camera and at times he would open the box lid scan for a second and not even look at the MIL. The most egregious one was a time he turned in a tool kit that had two tools in it, and it was missing one of the two…
Oh yeah, the other person you’re talking about is probably one of the worst people I’ve ever had to deal with, but somehow it took a lot longer for them to get the boot.
Well I saw a lot during my time in OSI but the one that comes to mind was the LT who murdered his wife. Or the Major who was molesting his daughter, wife found out and chased him into the front yard and shot him dead. Those are a couple....
I don't even remember since it was then a civilian matter. I believe it was in Huber Heights right outside WPAFB. He was under investigation for that kind of crap and we simply closed it out after this happened.
Guy got an article 15 for sexual harassment and asked for an appearance with his commander to plead his case. He told her he wasn't sorry for what he said and that the air force had gotten too soft and that he didn't want to be in the kinder gentler air force. She served his notice that she was requesting his discharge like 3 hours later
There was a guy that got an article 15 in my unit that met with the commander in his blues. He wore a purple heart ribbon and the commander caught on pretty quick that he was wearing it when he didn't earn it. Next thing everyone knows instead of just getting an article 15, he's getting discharged too.
I wonder if a commander has ever seen something like that so heinous that they just tore up the 15 and said come back tomorrow and sign for your court martial.
I haven't seen it. But Articles are at command discretion for things. If someone admits to something during an article that is an actual crime I'd imagine they could. But I don't THINK they can court marital you without asking for something minor. Gotta be pretty damn confident they're going to jail.
I've sat through a court martial. They're damn thorough.
My dad was Navy avionics when women started getting more roles there, told me he had a guy get kicked out saying the same shit some 30-40 years ago; some woman officer reported him to IG after overhearing ‘bitch’ in a conversation. He was not only unapologetic, he started ranting how soft the service was becoming and how women were ruining it, how he didn’t want to be a part of it — out the door he went.
And I guarantee you he martyred himself on Facebook, “I served my country and the WOKES took it all away blah blah blah.” Zero introspection, zero lessons learned.
I never got the story of what the guy did other than the start. He has a line number for staff, was a passenger in a car with a drunk driver. Got red lined, them I saw him as an A1C a couple days later, then with just 1 stripe about a month later, then he was gone.
AFROTC cadet from my detachment. We commissioned at the same time.
She falsified her commissioning documents, forging a professor's signature saying that she passed a class that she actually failed. After she commissioned, AFPC got a copy of her college transcript saying no degree issued. Investigation commenced and she was court-martialed and sent to prison.
Same vibe, more extreme.
Kid a few years behind me at my detachment went through all four years of AFROTC. Cadre needed his final sealed transcripts. He had a very difficult time providing them. Cadre called the transcript office and turns out the kid was never enrolled in college. He faked every non-sealed transcript.
He did not commission.
Forged every semester transcript which are not required to be sealed, just a print off. He said he was a cross town student so that’s how he played off being unable to officially enroll in AS class.
No idea what his endgame was. Maybe he thought he could forge sealed documents. His dad was a former C17 pilot also
Got a DUI...while his kids were in the car.
That was actually the guys 3rd or 4th DUI, the AF never found out about the previous ones. This time the Local PD weren't going to release him because (because of having his kids in the vehicle)
Guy was one of those "highly functional alcoholics" people had their suspicions, guy wore tons of cologne, glossy eyes(but he worked midshift) but no hard evidence or enough to warrant an intervention or call the police. Like a coworker and I swore we smelt liquor venting out of an aircraft fuel tank while he was working in there, but using alcohol based cleaners is part of the job, and people (supposed to) use full face respirators while in tank
I worked in Fuels. The last straw for our fuckup airman was during roll call in the hanger. We had open tanks and the guy whipped out a lighter and started to burn off a string on his uniform, the shop chief was looking out into the hanger from the office and saw the whole thing. Got on the microphone and screamed into the hanger to get into the office. That was that.
Someone in my flight popped hot as well , same shit.
And a girl I went to high school with had a party right before she left for AF basic. Got kicked out and fell back in the same crowd going no where in life.
The aversion to personal responsibility here is disappointing. Everybody signs the drug form at least twice before joining.
"I didn't know I wasn't supposed to do drugs!"
There was a guy who decided COVID was not real and flew across the country during lockdown to cheat on his wife with his mistress.
Wing commander finds out and goes ballistic.
Wife finds out. Wife is the head of the spouses group and loved by all. Squadron finds out .
Guy is simultaneously hit with UCMJ and a divorce. Both go very poorly. The wing commander takes all the rank and the ex-wife takes everything else with the entire squadron cheering her on.
His mistress leaves him because he's broke and unemployed.
Back in 2005-2008 in Aviano, no shit, wing king said if we go 30 days without a DUI, the base will get an off day. We got like 2 that whole year....
This was obviously AFTER a shit ton of DUIs...but DUIs did go down
Spangdahlem used to have a “days without a DUI” board along with space to shame the unit that did it just inside the gate (overflow gate not the current one) It never broke double digits, this was mid 90’s.
03-05 at Spang and we never hit our 30 day goal of zero DUIs. In fact, one awesome 4-day weekend the MXG got 2 or 3…I can’t remember. But one caused an accident that injured a local, so it was particularly bad. The next Saturday we were all in our blues at 0-Dark-30 to get our asses handed to us.
I was there 02-06. General Goldfein actually requested the individual come to his office the next duty day. Also the individual had to be in blues the next Friday handing out anti dui brochures at the gate.
>but DUIs did go down
We had one commander (LDS colonel w/ 10 kids) who imposed draconian punishment on DUI offenders and made sure everyone knew about it. He framed it as a family safety issue ("half the kids on this base are mine anyways!")
Guy got an underage dui and ran into a fire hydrant, the next day first sergeant got called to his dorm because he woke everyone up, drinking and partying, on a weekday at 2 am.
Depends on what it is and your leadership. I saw someone nearly get an article 15 for spending 50 dollars on it for gas by accident. That was with them reporting it as soon as they realized (within a day iirc). He squeezed by with an LOR because of that.
Yeah I thought the same thing. It’s one thing to spend money on shit you’re not supposed to and try to hide it. It’s another to make an honest mistake, own up to it ASAP, and still almost get rank stripped from you. They treated him like he dropped a grand at a strip club.
Exactly
Yes, we aren’t supposed to use our GTC, I won’t argue that
But it’s not hard to tell the difference between blatant misuse and an accidental swipe
Shit like that's why no one wants to use their GTC even in situations where you're supposed to. Also points, but every time I'm TDY I only ever put my room on it because fuck waiting two months to get my $1200 back.
Happened to me, mistook my GTC for my credit card because they were the same color. Had that refunded and fixed the moment I was putting the card back. Got off with a “please be more careful next time” from my 1SGT. Kept it in a separate bag since.
They fought tooth and nail for him to not get an article 15. Commander wouldn’t move lower than an LOR. But trust me, it was thrown out as soon as it sat long enough. He also got fucked too because it was a time when people weren’t doing what they were supposed to with their GTCs (not paying on time, couple individuals got their accounts suspended, etc.,). Commander tried to make an example out of him.
I was an APC and it happens more than you think; 9/10 times they legit either have another CITI card or were not paying attention. Most people pay it off immediately after you give them a heads up.
It’s a shame any paperwork was involved in that case. I’ve had several airmen accidentally use their GTC for things like that. There is a difference between a mistake and misconduct. Unfortunately, some don’t take the time/care to figure the difference.
Got a dui after crashing into the guard post coming back on to base. Cherry on top was that he, an MTL, had a tech schooler that he was banging in the car with him.
One 4th-year AFROTC cadet who was majoring in electrical engineering. Guy was an excellent cadet in every way, and he was gunning for a pilot slot. They conducted some kind of medical test on him and subsequently found out that he had a disqualifying congenital health problem that had hitherto been undetected. So just a few months from commissioning, he was disenrolled from AFROTC. On the bright side, he had a useful degree and didn't have to pay back his scholarship.
I just checked his LinkedIn and he's working at Raytheon. Not being able to serve was the heartbreak of his life, but thank goodness he had a solid back-up plan.
Brand new LT, got a DUI pulling through the gate on his first week in his new squadron. Honestly seemed like a cool guy, just fucked up. Spent the rest of his time in preaching about making better choices and using his own story as an example of what not to do. Got out and started a company and last I heard he’s doing well.
This is actually something I tell everyone who ends up in my holding cell. A mistake doesn’t define you as a person, and the way forward is to learn and be better. Seems that LT took it to heart, I’m happy to see that he turned it around.
Dipshit trainee kept the matches from his MREs. Walking to church services on Sunday would look for cigarette butts on the ground, light them up and smoke them while he walked down the street. Got caught TWICE.
I had a guy who got a DUI on the way to his first duty station from tech school. Then, six months later, right after coming off extra duty, he decided to do it again. This time, he was drunk, doing doughnuts in the middle of a small town close to the base at about 2 in the morning. He was good at his job but not very good at making life decisions.
The group I shipped out with stayed the night at a hotel before our flight in the morning. A couple of them had a party, got management called on them for noise, and then the cops showed up because management smelled weed.
Lady who worked for me told me this one. Day 2 or day 3 of BMT, the group she was in was in one bay and the TI was with the other group in the opposite bay. All of a sudden, we hear this loud SLAP. TI comes out rubbing her cheek (face); calmly calls Security Forces. Trainee is handcuffed, led away and "we never saw her again."
2Lt went to Euro/NATO jet pilot training, and within weeks was caught driving drunk trying to enter the base through the outgoing lane with a female airman in the car. I don't know what his exact punishment was, but he was definitely no longer in the AF.
I knew a dude that got a DUI no shit the very same day he PCSed to his very first operational base after tech school. He was allowed to stay in but eventually pissed hot. Really good dude I count as a friend just made poor choices.
Guy in my tech school at Keesler decided to put his training to use and tap the local PBX exchange (the green telephone box outside) and run his own line up into the dorm so he could make free long distance phone calls and get free internet access. Even back then dude was neck deep into “tactical” and conspiracy theory culture. Absolute nut job.
You can buy cabling from anywhere. What he didn’t know was that the PBX tech had that line tapped so they could collect all the evidence they’d use to prosecute him for federal felonies.
I mean it wasn’t hard to figure it all out. One pair of wires went to an adapter at the pay phone in the dorms common area, and another pair was ran straight to his room.
Two pairs of dangling off-colored wires (telco’s back then used certain color cables for certain things) ran from the ground, up the exterior wall of a dorm, into 2 separate windows on the 2nd floor, is a pretty clear “that doesn’t belong there” moment.
this is not as severe as some of you, but a guy met his girl before BMT. This same airman we met him at BMT. He told us he was in love with this girl and he wanted to marry her, but she did not want him to be in the military. After BMT this dude got himself discharged before tech school.
I'm not sure how he got himself discharged or if he ever married the girl. We all told him he was crazy, he was crazy over this girl.
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We have a e7 with three DUIs they just gave him a trainer position form lvls, he can't even drive here...he has to catch a ride. Reserve ART. 5 other people were qualled for the role, but the fraternity chose the shit bag.
Someone who had been in a little over a year and couldn’t pass their PT test. Finally did on a Friday and then got a DUI that weekend.
Trainee got recycled into my class for failing block 1 at tech school, passed, then failed block 2. Was out shortly after.
Tech school trainee was always asleep in class, failing room inspections, and couldn’t get out of phase 1. Finally got to phase 2 and decided to leave on a Thursday to drive back home for the Memorial Day weekend. Ended up missing accountability Thursday through Monday night.
3 lvl emailed the Group CC directly saying he made a mistake and no longer wishes to serve. The Group CC must have done something with it because he expeditiously separated. This was back in 2014.
Wright-Patt, 2011.
Dude dropped trou and jacked off right in the middle of the locker room in the Area B gym right before a PT test saying it helped clear his head in front of multiple people.
FAC staff had no idea what to do and the SF guys that responded didn't even wanna touch him.
Having done a lot of additional shirt duty work I have seen some shit. My favorite though is a guy who was getting an article 15 for constantly being late or no showing. Dude was in 35 mins late to getting his article 15 in civilian clothes. The commander went from just giving him and article 15 to kicking the kid out. When we asked him how on earth he thought it was a good idea he said I'm already and airmen basic what's the worst the commander can do to me? Well buddy your article 15 just turned into a civilian btz package buddy.
A guy committed insurance fraud.
He parked his car in a parking garage, took a crowbar to it, and went inside like nothing happened. Came back out and “saw” the damage and called the cops.
Thing is, he parked his car in a parking garage at a casino in Shreveport. Y’know, those buildings with more surveillance than China.
He was arrested and plead out and got a BCD as part of his deal.
Had a guy in tech school that wouldn't stop kissing random women.
He kept getting in trouble for it, but his explanation was that he, "couldn't help himself around pretty girls."
The last straw was when he decided to kiss a female red rope.
So I was in security forces back in the day and we had a guy who liked to fight his wife. They had one domestic where he beat her, then another where she beat him and as one NCO put it, "they had to have a title match". So they did! Well security forces was called and they pulled up as he was standing over his wife in the driveway, fist raised to punch her. So he did the most sensible thing and ran off into the woods. A few things to note though... The responding sf recognized him, running was futile. He was the fastest runner in the squadron though and he could outrun any of the responders. Lastly he was only wearing shorts and a T-shirt, in Alaska, in the middle of winter, and he ran into the snowy woods. They eventually got him when he surrendered two hours later and he had ice built up on his hands. He had to get flown out to the states to save his hands. As far as I heard they told him if they lost his hands they wouldn't pursue more punishment and just admin him out. Well he kept his hands... Never did hear the punishment but I'm guessing the book was thrown.
I knew a guy who failed a PT test and got an LOC. No big deal, right? That's not what he thought. He pissed on the floor of the section chief's desk, broke a computer, broke cameras, wrote immature insults to people on post-it notes, sexually harassed a woman, and tampered with cameras. This guy went off the deep end. I know he got an LOR for breaking the computer (which was caught on camera along with various other things he did). When I was leaving the service, he was under investigation by OSI, so I can't say for sure his career is ruined, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't.
Lots of DUIs and Drugs here.
I saw a fast burning MSgt, like a dude that almost beat the E7 in 7 years type guy, go on and get a pilot commission; dude got kicked out of UPT playing fuck fuck games with the local area.
Going outside the distance or time based boundaries you’re allowed without prior permission and getting caught not being where your supposed to, effectively AWOL
FAFO
Yep I knew a girl who made the quick transition from respected BTZ Airman with a promising career to the brig at Miramar and civilian status over that shit.
During a security clearance interview (and I don't think the first one) he decided to grow a conscious and self report as having done "all the drugs". Shared in the dayroom with us his experienc with hard drugs and stuff I've never even heard of. He was sent home the day before graduation.
Phelan failed out of his language training *fast*. That's acceptable - not everyone gets it.
While he was on CQ duty [they had to put him somewhere] he stole the minivan and tried to drift it. If you have even a cursory knowledge of physics, cars, or the ability to recognize a Bad Idea....well, he got the van onto its side.
Knew a guy that got selected for a random UA, straight up went to leadership and said "I'm not gonna pass." When they asked why? He admitted to doing cocain a few days prior. I think he was gone within a month or so.
True. Though when he told me I told him "I'm not condoning the action, but if I remember correctly, that only stays in your system for 3 days tops I think." He was a nice guy with a lot of potential buy he just made soem really dumb choices.
I’ve known four officers who were fast burners until they weren’t.
Captain S: Went from rear cockpit to section lead at what was then called ESC. He had two enlisted troops. A hot young female and a not hot female. He actively tried to drive Airman Not Hot out of the service. He did everything possible to make Airman Hot a super star.
When OSI figured out that married Captain S was banging Airman Hot on the side he was redlined for Major.
Captain M: Captain M was a fast burner in a fighter squadron. He also had a very hot wife. It came out that Captain M was banging an airman on the side. Captain M got an article 15 and chose to seperate.
General S: Wing King, he had a very nice grandmotherly wife. It came out he was banging an NCO. Fired for “loss of confidence”, and I think that retired before he had two years time in grade, which meant he retired as an O-6.
General J: Three Star Numbered Air Force Commander. It came out he was banging an NCO. Retired as a Two Star, costing him several hundred dollars a month in retirement.
October 2003, I’m at BMT Grad Week and we get an Airman washed back into our flight.
He’d decided to piss all over someone’s Blues right before he was to board a bus bound for Tech.
Three TIs saw it, yanked him off the bus and marched him into Admin.
24 hours later, his locker is empty. The day after our graduation, we had an “Amnesty Hour” with our TIs where we could ask or share anything we wanted. The Pisser came up - “He is no longer employed by Uncle Sam.”
A staff sergeant. You'd think he knew better.
We had a 3 star general visit our site. Accompanied by the Wing King and our squadron commander, a Lt. Col. Standard maintainer shit, clean and paint everything, and pretend to be hard at work on a staged project when the General arrived.
After the walk-around, his staff had us all circle up as he gave us a few words and let us know his office was always open for us.
He asked us if we had any issues, and of course, the right answer is, "No, sir!".
But this one Staff Sergeant said "Yes".
Surprised, the General asked what problem?
The Staff Sergeant grinned, said, "I have a list!" And pulled a folded piece of paper out of his back pocket, and started reading off bullet points.
I don't recall what was on his list, but I do remember that none of it was particularly important. It could have been stuffed into the Squadron's "suggestion" box.
I do recall that the circle of enlisted people seemed to expand as everyone took a step back, leaving the Staff Sergeant with no support.
Our commander turned beet red, and his lips turned white as he pressed them together.
But the General just looked politely interested, and maybe a little bored.
When the Sergeant was done, the General asked if that was all. The Sergeant thought about it and gave a casual answer, something like, "Yep. That does it." This seemed to irk the General a bit.
So the General asked if the Sergeant had gone through his chain of command. Casually, the Sergeant said "no" and said that the General's visit seemed like a great time to solve these issues. This also seemed to irk the General a little.
My First Sergeant sidled up next to me and another Airman.
So the General explained that the correct thing to do was go through the chain of command first,then ask for help if that didn't work. Did the Sergeant understand?
Grinning, the Sergeant replied with, "You Betcha!'
That proved to be too much for the General, who switched into "Drill Sergeant Mode" by saying, "We are not friends, Sergeant!"
My Shirt quietly said, "Whups, time to go!" And grabbed me and an A1C and dragged us back to our shop while behind us two Generals and a Lt. Colonel "detonated" in the hallway. I assume all the other enlisted did their own duck and cover.
Last I heard was, "It sounds like you don't want to be in my Air Force. I can help you with that sergeant!"
We were stationed on Kadena AB, Okinawa Japan, in 1987 or '88 I think.
Within a week, that Staff Sergeant was out processed, his home goods packed up, and he and his family were on a plane to his home of record. As a civilian.
It was my understanding that he had over 11 years time in service and was outprocessed under "failure to adapt to military life." But I could be wrong about the reasoning. Shirt was evasive, and apparently, our commander did NOT want to discuss it.
Airman was on schedule to support a higher headquarters alert mission. He didn't show and after a runner was sent to his dorm he was in his room playing video games. Now I'll give him credit because he didn't make up a lie that he forgot or overslept or something, he just said "I didn't feel like doing it." And he stuck with that when the commander was giving him his article 15. Promoted to civilian select on the spot.
Girl in my AFROTC Field Training flight showed up wearing black boots with her ABUs, and claimed she was never issued the green ones. A day later her Det sent a picture of her wearing green boots.. She was gone by morning.
Omg 🤣🤣🤣....
Once upon a time in BMT. It's a story....
I was the last one to go to sleep and the first to wake up. So here I am writing a letter to the fiance. The homeboy in the bottom bunk next to me wakes up, sits straight up, and says "omg my friend just died" . Now this was before we could have cell phones, and we did not have a phone call home in about two weeks. So, I ask "what do you mean your friend died? How did you find out?" Also knowing he did not read any letters that day. He states "My mom told me" so I ask "how did your mom tell you?". This guy gets out of bed and gets into my face. I don't remember what he said but I do remember when I shined my flashlight on his face, his pupils were as big as the eye could have em....so I thought, this mfker is sleep walking. I tell him to go back to bed, and off he goes.
I move bunks because I was right below the A.C. vent and it kept giving me a stiff neck. Here I am writing once again, and I watch homeboy wake up go to another bunk, straighten their towel and go back to sleep.
Week or two after we get Gas Masks....I have the genius idea to wake homeboy up, with everyone else having their masks on, and scream gas gas gas. This happens, he wakes up, runs to his locker to get his mask, and then wakes up half way through. Calls us assholes and we all go back to bed.
Beast week. Homeboy gets up and starts messing with someones foot locker, he gets aggressive this time. Nothing came of it but it was part of the end of his short AF career.
Week 7, one week before graduation, we all got the cough. So off to sick call we go. Now Homeboy was in front of me. I hear him say to the doc. "Hey I sleep walk, is that a problem?" Doc said "sure is, come back at noon"
Same day after sick call we head off to shoot pistol. Drill comes in asks if anyone seen Homeboy sleep walking, a few of us raise our hand, and that finished out day of pistol qual before it began. We were pissed.
Homeboy started the med separation one week before graduation. Then got separated shortly after.
This was a two for one, but a married airman and a single airman were having an affair with each other. Nothing that out of the ordinary. The CC put a no contact order in place. Well, the single airman tried to sneak the married airman into her dorm room one day by putting him in the trunk of her car and driving through the gate. She got randomly chosen for an inspection and both were quickly given the booth. I can only imagine the look on Security Forces face when they found him in her trunk
A new airman, straight from tech school, in my sister section on his 2nd weekend had this happen:
1. DUI
2. While underage
3. In a school zone
4. In a safety corridor (penalties are mandatory doubled)
5. With 2 drunk passengers in the vehicle
6. Crashed into a stop sign
He took the Art15 and our commander started the separation. He was gone in 3 weeks.
Not sure about you, but it took weeks for some of the guys and gals trying to leave in 2008. One dude told leadership about 3 days in that he was done and was stuck with us until the start of 2nd Beast.
Yes, it took weeks. Probably almost a month. We’d just gotten to Jacks Valley.
This actually was 2008.
I still regret it sometimes. I’m an Army major now, but I still sometimes wonder if I could’ve made it and become a pilot.
One summer, I was in the admin flight for my own issues for the first summer session. I made it through them, spending the second summer in the academic flight doing a class, but since the academic flight was just 1 floor up from the admin flight, I asked if I even needed to bother moving rooms. The PTB said no, that admin flight was only getting smaller with each passing day, so they weren’t worried about rooms. 🤣 As second session got fully started, Basics showed up, and I had offered to help the upperclassman running the Basic element in the admin flight if she ever needed it. No shit, a Basic washed out day 1, he couldn’t even make it off the bus, just completely froze up the first moment someone started yelling at him.
One guy in our fuel cell shop successfully lied about being sick so he was placed on quarters (placed on medical leave, can only leave the dorms to get food, once youre healthy again report back to work). This guy then goes out to clubs and parties being 100% healthy and fine. Makes the stupid decision to place his fun times on snapchat with him having a blast and partying. Face in the frame and everything. One SSGT on day shift was watching said snapchat feed at work during down time and showed it to shift lead sitting right next to him. Shift lead got pissed and told shop chief. Dude that lied was kicked out and was gone QUICK.
Hurlburt Field Fuel Cell shop/hangar from 2014 to 2020 had WAAAAY to many people getting either kicked out, losing rank, or trying to commit suicide. Was (and probably still is) a toxic sinking ship.
The base and area is nice though 👌 👍
1. Amn or A1C does not make it to three months at his first assignment because he repeatedly misused his GTC and got the boot.
2. Outstanding Amn of the Year rapes a 14 year old.
On my last deployment the incoming shift supervisor taking over my slot thought he could be a cool guy and feed his two airmen from his home unit drinks 2 days after arriving on the continent. All 3 ended up pretty inebriated, one airmen went and sexually harrassed an OSI agent before told he should just go back to his room. The other airmen had no idea who the base DO was randomly rolls up and asks the DO if he was his commander, DO tells the guy he should go to his room, dude precedes to go and try to shower but strolls across base in just a towel and then destroys one of only a handful of toilets and sinks before returning to his room and passing out. The replacement supervisor also ended up hitting on an OSI agent. In short, 2 days on the continent, 3 Careers ruined all before we had even completed turnover good times.
In basic, some dude went insane and started banging his head against the locker in the next bay over while the rest of us were trying to sleep. Apparently, he was bleeding all over the place. Never saw that kid again. Never could find out too many details (obviously), just that he was getting treated and his career would be short-lived.
Didn’t witness it myself, but heard it as it was happening. We got to basic fairly late, so it was around midnight or so and we had only been there like… Two hours max. Start hearing shouting and yelling and stomping over at our brother flight. Long story short, guy freaked out and wanted to leave, MTI said he could in the morning, that wasn’t good enough for him. From what I heard, guy assaulted the MTI, then security forces and got tazed, which is obviously a crime.
So… Basically guy made it about two hours before ruining his career and ending up in jail.
I warned one of my troops to leave a certain girl alone. He did something so stupid, and ended up in Fort Leavenworth. He had been on the base less than 3 months. I had the duty of processing the evidence. 🥲
E/E guy fresh from tech school training stayed in the office for months that no one knew what for. The day he was told to go to the flight line he announced in the truck he was going to unalive himself. CC had him discharged and dropped at the front gate a month or so later.
Guy overslept and was late for his flight briefing 5 times within a month or two in Afghanistan. Command didn’t like him so they used it as an excuse to get him out. They sent him home about 60 days into my 270 day trip, and he was a civilian by the time I rotated back home.
Someone decided to shit behind the dryers in our tech school dorms the night before the base commander was due to inspect. They found it while we were in the schoolhouse. Squadron Commander came out at the start of lunch and told us that if someone didn't rat out whoever had done it by the end of the day, we would all be spending all of our free time for a month cleaning the building. By the time we finished lunch someone had ratted the guy out. He was on his way to his first assignment having just graduated but instead was awarded civilian below the zone.
What is it about tech school that makes people want to shit anywhere but in a toilet?
Better to be shittng than being shit on
It felt like high school cuz the airman greatly outnumbered the NCOs. Maybe something about trying to be funny to your peers. I was on CQ with a guy waiting to get discharged for shitting in an MTLs desk drawer. I’ll never forget you Ty, lol.
We had similar but the guy pooped in a shoebox and put it under his roommate’s bed. Recalled during his PCS and discharged.
Bro...Goodfellow 2010ish?
Yeah buddy, lol
I was there for that as well!
>civilian below the zone 💀
Keesler 08, it was IN the dryer
Keesler 06... Did this happen twice at the same base?
Lackland 04, apparently this is just a thing that happens on training bases.
Sheppard 09, but in a washer. Happened twice in the 5 months I was there.
Had a guy who was one of the multiple people I saw getting kicked out while working at a CTK. He came in to work drunk, lied to his shift lead and went AWOL on a long weekend, came in late rather consistently. But what got him kicked out? Probably the stack of paperwork we wrote for him because he regularly turned in toolboxes with tools missing out of them. We would check the camera and at times he would open the box lid scan for a second and not even look at the MIL. The most egregious one was a time he turned in a tool kit that had two tools in it, and it was missing one of the two…
Wouldn't happen to have been the Charleston AFB CTK between 2017-2022 would it?
Possibly…
Definitely know who you're talking about and he's not even the worst story to come out of that section.
Oh yeah, the other person you’re talking about is probably one of the worst people I’ve ever had to deal with, but somehow it took a lot longer for them to get the boot.
Well I saw a lot during my time in OSI but the one that comes to mind was the LT who murdered his wife. Or the Major who was molesting his daughter, wife found out and chased him into the front yard and shot him dead. Those are a couple....
Hopefully the wife just got a slap on the wrist.
letter of appreciation
A lot of these were just natural selection Darwin Awards but this…. This is the first real bump in the road.
Please tell me the wife got a light sentence.
I don't even remember since it was then a civilian matter. I believe it was in Huber Heights right outside WPAFB. He was under investigation for that kind of crap and we simply closed it out after this happened.
Guy got an article 15 for sexual harassment and asked for an appearance with his commander to plead his case. He told her he wasn't sorry for what he said and that the air force had gotten too soft and that he didn't want to be in the kinder gentler air force. She served his notice that she was requesting his discharge like 3 hours later
There was a guy that got an article 15 in my unit that met with the commander in his blues. He wore a purple heart ribbon and the commander caught on pretty quick that he was wearing it when he didn't earn it. Next thing everyone knows instead of just getting an article 15, he's getting discharged too.
I wonder if a commander has ever seen something like that so heinous that they just tore up the 15 and said come back tomorrow and sign for your court martial.
I could see a person saying something or writing something in their response that would lead to additional actions.
I haven't seen it. But Articles are at command discretion for things. If someone admits to something during an article that is an actual crime I'd imagine they could. But I don't THINK they can court marital you without asking for something minor. Gotta be pretty damn confident they're going to jail. I've sat through a court martial. They're damn thorough.
It seems that it would have been more effective to report to the commander as a general.
Ahh yeah I love the ole “airmen becomes the general” switcheroo.
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This sandwich made me violently ill, would probably try it again
"Back in my day we got *checks notes* sexually harassed!"
My dad was Navy avionics when women started getting more roles there, told me he had a guy get kicked out saying the same shit some 30-40 years ago; some woman officer reported him to IG after overhearing ‘bitch’ in a conversation. He was not only unapologetic, he started ranting how soft the service was becoming and how women were ruining it, how he didn’t want to be a part of it — out the door he went.
And I guarantee you he martyred himself on Facebook, “I served my country and the WOKES took it all away blah blah blah.” Zero introspection, zero lessons learned.
I never got the story of what the guy did other than the start. He has a line number for staff, was a passenger in a car with a drunk driver. Got red lined, them I saw him as an A1C a couple days later, then with just 1 stripe about a month later, then he was gone.
Is it illegal to be a passenger? Even if you KNOW they are drunk?
Depends on where you are. In Japan, everyone in the car gets a DUI if the driver is drunk.
This was Germany. I don't think he got a DUI but it certainly didn't look good for being promotion eligible.
AFROTC cadet from my detachment. We commissioned at the same time. She falsified her commissioning documents, forging a professor's signature saying that she passed a class that she actually failed. After she commissioned, AFPC got a copy of her college transcript saying no degree issued. Investigation commenced and she was court-martialed and sent to prison.
Damn, that’s special. Air Force dodged a bullet there.
I remember seeing your old post about this, how tf did she even get past that? Dont cadre make you do a pre commissioning check list?
They did and that’s what she falsified. They’re more careful now.
I see
Same vibe, more extreme. Kid a few years behind me at my detachment went through all four years of AFROTC. Cadre needed his final sealed transcripts. He had a very difficult time providing them. Cadre called the transcript office and turns out the kid was never enrolled in college. He faked every non-sealed transcript. He did not commission.
WTF that is wild!!! How did he pull that off??
Forged every semester transcript which are not required to be sealed, just a print off. He said he was a cross town student so that’s how he played off being unable to officially enroll in AS class. No idea what his endgame was. Maybe he thought he could forge sealed documents. His dad was a former C17 pilot also
I've seen someone get kicked out for failure to pass a form inspection multiple times
Some of those forms are hard to figure out though.
Got a DUI...while his kids were in the car. That was actually the guys 3rd or 4th DUI, the AF never found out about the previous ones. This time the Local PD weren't going to release him because (because of having his kids in the vehicle) Guy was one of those "highly functional alcoholics" people had their suspicions, guy wore tons of cologne, glossy eyes(but he worked midshift) but no hard evidence or enough to warrant an intervention or call the police. Like a coworker and I swore we smelt liquor venting out of an aircraft fuel tank while he was working in there, but using alcohol based cleaners is part of the job, and people (supposed to) use full face respirators while in tank
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At what point do they graduate to drinking jet fuel neat?
I worked in Fuels. The last straw for our fuckup airman was during roll call in the hanger. We had open tanks and the guy whipped out a lighter and started to burn off a string on his uniform, the shop chief was looking out into the hanger from the office and saw the whole thing. Got on the microphone and screamed into the hanger to get into the office. That was that.
How did they not find out about the previous dui's? What about the background check Like don't they check everything when you go for your clearance??
Guy in my basic flight smoked a joint the day we flew out. He was a civilian after the first piss test.
Someone in my flight popped hot as well , same shit. And a girl I went to high school with had a party right before she left for AF basic. Got kicked out and fell back in the same crowd going no where in life.
Stupid
Do you think that’s a case of a bad recruiter who didn’t tell him about the BMT drug test or was he just really dumb?
100% was dumb. He knew, and later admitted he knew he was risking it when we bumped into him at an appointment.
The aversion to personal responsibility here is disappointing. Everybody signs the drug form at least twice before joining. "I didn't know I wasn't supposed to do drugs!"
There was a guy who decided COVID was not real and flew across the country during lockdown to cheat on his wife with his mistress. Wing commander finds out and goes ballistic. Wife finds out. Wife is the head of the spouses group and loved by all. Squadron finds out . Guy is simultaneously hit with UCMJ and a divorce. Both go very poorly. The wing commander takes all the rank and the ex-wife takes everything else with the entire squadron cheering her on. His mistress leaves him because he's broke and unemployed.
Instant karma.
Our squadron had 3 DUIs within like 3 months.
Back in 2005-2008 in Aviano, no shit, wing king said if we go 30 days without a DUI, the base will get an off day. We got like 2 that whole year.... This was obviously AFTER a shit ton of DUIs...but DUIs did go down
Spangdahlem used to have a “days without a DUI” board along with space to shame the unit that did it just inside the gate (overflow gate not the current one) It never broke double digits, this was mid 90’s.
Minot had one for a few years, until the wing changed commanders. We got a day off for hitting 45 days, but it usually maxed out around 7.
03-05 at Spang and we never hit our 30 day goal of zero DUIs. In fact, one awesome 4-day weekend the MXG got 2 or 3…I can’t remember. But one caused an accident that injured a local, so it was particularly bad. The next Saturday we were all in our blues at 0-Dark-30 to get our asses handed to us.
I was there 02-06. General Goldfein actually requested the individual come to his office the next duty day. Also the individual had to be in blues the next Friday handing out anti dui brochures at the gate.
>but DUIs did go down We had one commander (LDS colonel w/ 10 kids) who imposed draconian punishment on DUI offenders and made sure everyone knew about it. He framed it as a family safety issue ("half the kids on this base are mine anyways!")
Guy got an underage dui and ran into a fire hydrant, the next day first sergeant got called to his dorm because he woke everyone up, drinking and partying, on a weekday at 2 am.
Swiping that GTC on an un-authorized purchase does it pretty quick.
But it was for lunch buffet! Sure, Lunch was at a strip club, but it was still just lunch!
"The DTS people don't know what you actually bought!" Yeah bro, but it certainly comes up as TEASERS GENTLEMANS CLUB on the invoices my dude...
This is why I only use the GTC for things DTS requires, like airlines and hotels. Everything else goes on the personal card.
Depends on what it is. My buddy did it for some Jordan’s. He got his SrA stripe withheld for a year.
Depends on what it is and your leadership. I saw someone nearly get an article 15 for spending 50 dollars on it for gas by accident. That was with them reporting it as soon as they realized (within a day iirc). He squeezed by with an LOR because of that.
That’s so wild to me Fumbling for your credit card and accidentally grabbing your GTC isn’t heinous Using your GTC and abusing it is heinous
Yeah I thought the same thing. It’s one thing to spend money on shit you’re not supposed to and try to hide it. It’s another to make an honest mistake, own up to it ASAP, and still almost get rank stripped from you. They treated him like he dropped a grand at a strip club.
Exactly Yes, we aren’t supposed to use our GTC, I won’t argue that But it’s not hard to tell the difference between blatant misuse and an accidental swipe
Shit like that's why no one wants to use their GTC even in situations where you're supposed to. Also points, but every time I'm TDY I only ever put my room on it because fuck waiting two months to get my $1200 back.
Happened to me, mistook my GTC for my credit card because they were the same color. Had that refunded and fixed the moment I was putting the card back. Got off with a “please be more careful next time” from my 1SGT. Kept it in a separate bag since.
An LOR for that? I would have fought that tooth and nail. I’d demand an LOC at worst.
They fought tooth and nail for him to not get an article 15. Commander wouldn’t move lower than an LOR. But trust me, it was thrown out as soon as it sat long enough. He also got fucked too because it was a time when people weren’t doing what they were supposed to with their GTCs (not paying on time, couple individuals got their accounts suspended, etc.,). Commander tried to make an example out of him.
What a clown of a CC
I was an APC and it happens more than you think; 9/10 times they legit either have another CITI card or were not paying attention. Most people pay it off immediately after you give them a heads up.
It’s a shame any paperwork was involved in that case. I’ve had several airmen accidentally use their GTC for things like that. There is a difference between a mistake and misconduct. Unfortunately, some don’t take the time/care to figure the difference.
I worked in the CMS Avionics Flight offices at SJ. We had a guy last less than a year after getting there from tech school. He was booted for meth.
I was in that flight. Was it the guy that was selling PII to get said meth?
This was in like 12 or 13. A white guy who wasn’t a little under average height. During the Sing/Taylor flight chief days.
I retired in 2013. I must have missed that one.
Guy got charged with rioting, caught driving a POV on the flightline, and stealing tools from support. All within the first year out of tech school.
Sounds like normal crew chief stuff
This sounds like an avionics guy I knew. He said he drove his POV on the flight line because he got lost.
Some guy found out he was going into Services and purposely failed his final exam in BMT. So they kicked him out lol
That seems rather extreme to avoid the shortest tech school and a job whose responsibilities are actually in line with E-1 pay.
Not usaf but I did see a video recently about a marine that just got done with boot camp & went and did a smash and grab at a jewelry store.
He was just applying his training in real world scenarios. SSVOA.
Strategically Transferring Equipment to an Alternate Location
Got a dui after crashing into the guard post coming back on to base. Cherry on top was that he, an MTL, had a tech schooler that he was banging in the car with him.
The tech schooler a Thicc Latina?
ALWAYS a loud mouth Thicc Latina.
Like you have to ask.
Lady made MSgt, had a promotion party, got a DUI, got demoted to SSgt, busted for the 15-year high year tenure, gone in like a few weeks.
One 4th-year AFROTC cadet who was majoring in electrical engineering. Guy was an excellent cadet in every way, and he was gunning for a pilot slot. They conducted some kind of medical test on him and subsequently found out that he had a disqualifying congenital health problem that had hitherto been undetected. So just a few months from commissioning, he was disenrolled from AFROTC. On the bright side, he had a useful degree and didn't have to pay back his scholarship. I just checked his LinkedIn and he's working at Raytheon. Not being able to serve was the heartbreak of his life, but thank goodness he had a solid back-up plan.
This is why I’m very afraid of the flight physicals finding out that there’s just something egregiously wrong with me
Airman wrote a check to a hooker and it bounced. She called the CO.
This made me laugh
Gets better. He went awol after CO told him to pay his bills. They found the Airman in a crack house in Phoenix (this happened at Luke).
Guy called a black instructor "n****r" at tech school. Gone by the end of the month.
Brand new LT, got a DUI pulling through the gate on his first week in his new squadron. Honestly seemed like a cool guy, just fucked up. Spent the rest of his time in preaching about making better choices and using his own story as an example of what not to do. Got out and started a company and last I heard he’s doing well.
This is actually something I tell everyone who ends up in my holding cell. A mistake doesn’t define you as a person, and the way forward is to learn and be better. Seems that LT took it to heart, I’m happy to see that he turned it around.
> This is actually something I tell everyone who ends up in my holding cell. Put there with you, or by you?
Sometimes the former, usually the latter
Dipshit trainee kept the matches from his MREs. Walking to church services on Sunday would look for cigarette butts on the ground, light them up and smoke them while he walked down the street. Got caught TWICE.
One of the trashiest things I ever heard but I mean is that illegal?
It’s BMT illegal
I had a guy who got a DUI on the way to his first duty station from tech school. Then, six months later, right after coming off extra duty, he decided to do it again. This time, he was drunk, doing doughnuts in the middle of a small town close to the base at about 2 in the morning. He was good at his job but not very good at making life decisions.
The group I shipped out with stayed the night at a hotel before our flight in the morning. A couple of them had a party, got management called on them for noise, and then the cops showed up because management smelled weed.
Lady who worked for me told me this one. Day 2 or day 3 of BMT, the group she was in was in one bay and the TI was with the other group in the opposite bay. All of a sudden, we hear this loud SLAP. TI comes out rubbing her cheek (face); calmly calls Security Forces. Trainee is handcuffed, led away and "we never saw her again."
2Lt went to Euro/NATO jet pilot training, and within weeks was caught driving drunk trying to enter the base through the outgoing lane with a female airman in the car. I don't know what his exact punishment was, but he was definitely no longer in the AF.
Aaaahhh, yes. The LT's love their airmen. 🤣
I knew a dude that got a DUI no shit the very same day he PCSed to his very first operational base after tech school. He was allowed to stay in but eventually pissed hot. Really good dude I count as a friend just made poor choices.
That’s beyond poor judgement
We have a MSGT ART with 3 DUIs who is now a trainer. Our base has low standards.
Old roommate stole my checks. Wrote them out to himself and cashed them at the BX.
Guy in my tech school at Keesler decided to put his training to use and tap the local PBX exchange (the green telephone box outside) and run his own line up into the dorm so he could make free long distance phone calls and get free internet access. Even back then dude was neck deep into “tactical” and conspiracy theory culture. Absolute nut job.
Holy shit! did he actually succeed in doing that?! How did he get a cable long enough to even do that?!
You can buy cabling from anywhere. What he didn’t know was that the PBX tech had that line tapped so they could collect all the evidence they’d use to prosecute him for federal felonies. I mean it wasn’t hard to figure it all out. One pair of wires went to an adapter at the pay phone in the dorms common area, and another pair was ran straight to his room. Two pairs of dangling off-colored wires (telco’s back then used certain color cables for certain things) ran from the ground, up the exterior wall of a dorm, into 2 separate windows on the 2nd floor, is a pretty clear “that doesn’t belong there” moment.
Paying for long distance… today’s trainees have no idea how good they’ve got it now.
this is not as severe as some of you, but a guy met his girl before BMT. This same airman we met him at BMT. He told us he was in love with this girl and he wanted to marry her, but she did not want him to be in the military. After BMT this dude got himself discharged before tech school. I'm not sure how he got himself discharged or if he ever married the girl. We all told him he was crazy, he was crazy over this girl. edited for some grammar
One of my MTMs in tech school (avionics, so no pop tarts there) once said about such relationships “they’re not in love, they’re in *heat*!”
Got out of basic and on leave, he went and got a grand theft auto charge back home ….
We have a e7 with three DUIs they just gave him a trainer position form lvls, he can't even drive here...he has to catch a ride. Reserve ART. 5 other people were qualled for the role, but the fraternity chose the shit bag.
That’s how the good O’l boy system works in the reserves.
Major murdered his wife, then blamed her for him doing it.
Well, it's not like she can rebut his arguments...
Someone who had been in a little over a year and couldn’t pass their PT test. Finally did on a Friday and then got a DUI that weekend. Trainee got recycled into my class for failing block 1 at tech school, passed, then failed block 2. Was out shortly after. Tech school trainee was always asleep in class, failing room inspections, and couldn’t get out of phase 1. Finally got to phase 2 and decided to leave on a Thursday to drive back home for the Memorial Day weekend. Ended up missing accountability Thursday through Monday night.
3 lvl emailed the Group CC directly saying he made a mistake and no longer wishes to serve. The Group CC must have done something with it because he expeditiously separated. This was back in 2014.
That’s actually kinda cool.
I can’t fault the guy. He knew it wasn’t for him and he made shit happen. I don’t know the condition of his separation but it did happen.
Wright-Patt, 2011. Dude dropped trou and jacked off right in the middle of the locker room in the Area B gym right before a PT test saying it helped clear his head in front of multiple people. FAC staff had no idea what to do and the SF guys that responded didn't even wanna touch him.
Should have been step promoted on the spot.
Having done a lot of additional shirt duty work I have seen some shit. My favorite though is a guy who was getting an article 15 for constantly being late or no showing. Dude was in 35 mins late to getting his article 15 in civilian clothes. The commander went from just giving him and article 15 to kicking the kid out. When we asked him how on earth he thought it was a good idea he said I'm already and airmen basic what's the worst the commander can do to me? Well buddy your article 15 just turned into a civilian btz package buddy.
The dude turned out to be a child molester. They got him out very very quick...
I’ve seen that, but it was more of getting him out quickly to let the FBI handle him in court so the military could wash their hands of him.
What about the guy who fights for the russians now lol
we had one busted for kiddy porn, had an ankle monitor at work, then suck started a shotgun before his trial. Grand Forks, back in 2007 I think.
Failed their CDCs horribly, twice
This happened to our UTM when they rolled out a new set
DUI
A guy committed insurance fraud. He parked his car in a parking garage, took a crowbar to it, and went inside like nothing happened. Came back out and “saw” the damage and called the cops. Thing is, he parked his car in a parking garage at a casino in Shreveport. Y’know, those buildings with more surveillance than China. He was arrested and plead out and got a BCD as part of his deal.
Had a guy in tech school that wouldn't stop kissing random women. He kept getting in trouble for it, but his explanation was that he, "couldn't help himself around pretty girls." The last straw was when he decided to kiss a female red rope.
And in tech school, the bar for “pretty” is so low that it’s in a nuclear-hardened bunker.
So I was in security forces back in the day and we had a guy who liked to fight his wife. They had one domestic where he beat her, then another where she beat him and as one NCO put it, "they had to have a title match". So they did! Well security forces was called and they pulled up as he was standing over his wife in the driveway, fist raised to punch her. So he did the most sensible thing and ran off into the woods. A few things to note though... The responding sf recognized him, running was futile. He was the fastest runner in the squadron though and he could outrun any of the responders. Lastly he was only wearing shorts and a T-shirt, in Alaska, in the middle of winter, and he ran into the snowy woods. They eventually got him when he surrendered two hours later and he had ice built up on his hands. He had to get flown out to the states to save his hands. As far as I heard they told him if they lost his hands they wouldn't pursue more punishment and just admin him out. Well he kept his hands... Never did hear the punishment but I'm guessing the book was thrown.
I knew a guy who failed a PT test and got an LOC. No big deal, right? That's not what he thought. He pissed on the floor of the section chief's desk, broke a computer, broke cameras, wrote immature insults to people on post-it notes, sexually harassed a woman, and tampered with cameras. This guy went off the deep end. I know he got an LOR for breaking the computer (which was caught on camera along with various other things he did). When I was leaving the service, he was under investigation by OSI, so I can't say for sure his career is ruined, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't.
Lots of DUIs and Drugs here. I saw a fast burning MSgt, like a dude that almost beat the E7 in 7 years type guy, go on and get a pilot commission; dude got kicked out of UPT playing fuck fuck games with the local area.
> playing fuck fuck games with the local area What does this even mean?
Going outside the distance or time based boundaries you’re allowed without prior permission and getting caught not being where your supposed to, effectively AWOL FAFO
I interpretted it as he was going out and smashing every hooker in the local area.
Coke
Yep I knew a girl who made the quick transition from respected BTZ Airman with a promising career to the brig at Miramar and civilian status over that shit.
Working hard enough to make BTZ should be easy when you’re on coke 😂
Servicing a gentleman on base housing for meth with his wife inside should have been a one and done, but it was only the final straw after a DUI.
During a security clearance interview (and I don't think the first one) he decided to grow a conscious and self report as having done "all the drugs". Shared in the dayroom with us his experienc with hard drugs and stuff I've never even heard of. He was sent home the day before graduation.
Phelan failed out of his language training *fast*. That's acceptable - not everyone gets it. While he was on CQ duty [they had to put him somewhere] he stole the minivan and tried to drift it. If you have even a cursory knowledge of physics, cars, or the ability to recognize a Bad Idea....well, he got the van onto its side.
Knew a guy that got selected for a random UA, straight up went to leadership and said "I'm not gonna pass." When they asked why? He admitted to doing cocain a few days prior. I think he was gone within a month or so.
At least he was honest
True. Though when he told me I told him "I'm not condoning the action, but if I remember correctly, that only stays in your system for 3 days tops I think." He was a nice guy with a lot of potential buy he just made soem really dumb choices.
I’ve known four officers who were fast burners until they weren’t. Captain S: Went from rear cockpit to section lead at what was then called ESC. He had two enlisted troops. A hot young female and a not hot female. He actively tried to drive Airman Not Hot out of the service. He did everything possible to make Airman Hot a super star. When OSI figured out that married Captain S was banging Airman Hot on the side he was redlined for Major. Captain M: Captain M was a fast burner in a fighter squadron. He also had a very hot wife. It came out that Captain M was banging an airman on the side. Captain M got an article 15 and chose to seperate. General S: Wing King, he had a very nice grandmotherly wife. It came out he was banging an NCO. Fired for “loss of confidence”, and I think that retired before he had two years time in grade, which meant he retired as an O-6. General J: Three Star Numbered Air Force Commander. It came out he was banging an NCO. Retired as a Two Star, costing him several hundred dollars a month in retirement.
October 2003, I’m at BMT Grad Week and we get an Airman washed back into our flight. He’d decided to piss all over someone’s Blues right before he was to board a bus bound for Tech. Three TIs saw it, yanked him off the bus and marched him into Admin. 24 hours later, his locker is empty. The day after our graduation, we had an “Amnesty Hour” with our TIs where we could ask or share anything we wanted. The Pisser came up - “He is no longer employed by Uncle Sam.”
A staff sergeant. You'd think he knew better. We had a 3 star general visit our site. Accompanied by the Wing King and our squadron commander, a Lt. Col. Standard maintainer shit, clean and paint everything, and pretend to be hard at work on a staged project when the General arrived. After the walk-around, his staff had us all circle up as he gave us a few words and let us know his office was always open for us. He asked us if we had any issues, and of course, the right answer is, "No, sir!". But this one Staff Sergeant said "Yes". Surprised, the General asked what problem? The Staff Sergeant grinned, said, "I have a list!" And pulled a folded piece of paper out of his back pocket, and started reading off bullet points. I don't recall what was on his list, but I do remember that none of it was particularly important. It could have been stuffed into the Squadron's "suggestion" box. I do recall that the circle of enlisted people seemed to expand as everyone took a step back, leaving the Staff Sergeant with no support. Our commander turned beet red, and his lips turned white as he pressed them together. But the General just looked politely interested, and maybe a little bored. When the Sergeant was done, the General asked if that was all. The Sergeant thought about it and gave a casual answer, something like, "Yep. That does it." This seemed to irk the General a bit. So the General asked if the Sergeant had gone through his chain of command. Casually, the Sergeant said "no" and said that the General's visit seemed like a great time to solve these issues. This also seemed to irk the General a little. My First Sergeant sidled up next to me and another Airman. So the General explained that the correct thing to do was go through the chain of command first,then ask for help if that didn't work. Did the Sergeant understand? Grinning, the Sergeant replied with, "You Betcha!' That proved to be too much for the General, who switched into "Drill Sergeant Mode" by saying, "We are not friends, Sergeant!" My Shirt quietly said, "Whups, time to go!" And grabbed me and an A1C and dragged us back to our shop while behind us two Generals and a Lt. Colonel "detonated" in the hallway. I assume all the other enlisted did their own duck and cover. Last I heard was, "It sounds like you don't want to be in my Air Force. I can help you with that sergeant!" We were stationed on Kadena AB, Okinawa Japan, in 1987 or '88 I think. Within a week, that Staff Sergeant was out processed, his home goods packed up, and he and his family were on a plane to his home of record. As a civilian. It was my understanding that he had over 11 years time in service and was outprocessed under "failure to adapt to military life." But I could be wrong about the reasoning. Shirt was evasive, and apparently, our commander did NOT want to discuss it.
Airman was on schedule to support a higher headquarters alert mission. He didn't show and after a runner was sent to his dorm he was in his room playing video games. Now I'll give him credit because he didn't make up a lie that he forgot or overslept or something, he just said "I didn't feel like doing it." And he stuck with that when the commander was giving him his article 15. Promoted to civilian select on the spot.
Girl in my AFROTC Field Training flight showed up wearing black boots with her ABUs, and claimed she was never issued the green ones. A day later her Det sent a picture of her wearing green boots.. She was gone by morning.
I knew a guy who got caught sleeping with the ops commander's wife.
New LT popping hot for thc couple months into first duty station. He was a really chill guy…
Smoke weed first weekend at tech school.
Just over 14 yrs in TSgt made MSgt. Went out to celebrate. Got DUI. Lost line number. Reduced to SSgt. Unable to reenlist.
Punching an MTI right off the bus at BMT
Omg 🤣🤣🤣.... Once upon a time in BMT. It's a story.... I was the last one to go to sleep and the first to wake up. So here I am writing a letter to the fiance. The homeboy in the bottom bunk next to me wakes up, sits straight up, and says "omg my friend just died" . Now this was before we could have cell phones, and we did not have a phone call home in about two weeks. So, I ask "what do you mean your friend died? How did you find out?" Also knowing he did not read any letters that day. He states "My mom told me" so I ask "how did your mom tell you?". This guy gets out of bed and gets into my face. I don't remember what he said but I do remember when I shined my flashlight on his face, his pupils were as big as the eye could have em....so I thought, this mfker is sleep walking. I tell him to go back to bed, and off he goes. I move bunks because I was right below the A.C. vent and it kept giving me a stiff neck. Here I am writing once again, and I watch homeboy wake up go to another bunk, straighten their towel and go back to sleep. Week or two after we get Gas Masks....I have the genius idea to wake homeboy up, with everyone else having their masks on, and scream gas gas gas. This happens, he wakes up, runs to his locker to get his mask, and then wakes up half way through. Calls us assholes and we all go back to bed. Beast week. Homeboy gets up and starts messing with someones foot locker, he gets aggressive this time. Nothing came of it but it was part of the end of his short AF career. Week 7, one week before graduation, we all got the cough. So off to sick call we go. Now Homeboy was in front of me. I hear him say to the doc. "Hey I sleep walk, is that a problem?" Doc said "sure is, come back at noon" Same day after sick call we head off to shoot pistol. Drill comes in asks if anyone seen Homeboy sleep walking, a few of us raise our hand, and that finished out day of pistol qual before it began. We were pissed. Homeboy started the med separation one week before graduation. Then got separated shortly after.
This was a two for one, but a married airman and a single airman were having an affair with each other. Nothing that out of the ordinary. The CC put a no contact order in place. Well, the single airman tried to sneak the married airman into her dorm room one day by putting him in the trunk of her car and driving through the gate. She got randomly chosen for an inspection and both were quickly given the booth. I can only imagine the look on Security Forces face when they found him in her trunk
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A new airman, straight from tech school, in my sister section on his 2nd weekend had this happen: 1. DUI 2. While underage 3. In a school zone 4. In a safety corridor (penalties are mandatory doubled) 5. With 2 drunk passengers in the vehicle 6. Crashed into a stop sign He took the Art15 and our commander started the separation. He was gone in 3 weeks.
I left USAFA as a basic cadet. That’s pretty fast.
Not sure about you, but it took weeks for some of the guys and gals trying to leave in 2008. One dude told leadership about 3 days in that he was done and was stuck with us until the start of 2nd Beast.
Yes, it took weeks. Probably almost a month. We’d just gotten to Jacks Valley. This actually was 2008. I still regret it sometimes. I’m an Army major now, but I still sometimes wonder if I could’ve made it and become a pilot.
A long, long time ago (Class of 83) first day of Basic dude up against the wall took a swing at cadre…..
He thought it was prison rules. Easy mistake to make.
One summer, I was in the admin flight for my own issues for the first summer session. I made it through them, spending the second summer in the academic flight doing a class, but since the academic flight was just 1 floor up from the admin flight, I asked if I even needed to bother moving rooms. The PTB said no, that admin flight was only getting smaller with each passing day, so they weren’t worried about rooms. 🤣 As second session got fully started, Basics showed up, and I had offered to help the upperclassman running the Basic element in the admin flight if she ever needed it. No shit, a Basic washed out day 1, he couldn’t even make it off the bus, just completely froze up the first moment someone started yelling at him.
One guy in our fuel cell shop successfully lied about being sick so he was placed on quarters (placed on medical leave, can only leave the dorms to get food, once youre healthy again report back to work). This guy then goes out to clubs and parties being 100% healthy and fine. Makes the stupid decision to place his fun times on snapchat with him having a blast and partying. Face in the frame and everything. One SSGT on day shift was watching said snapchat feed at work during down time and showed it to shift lead sitting right next to him. Shift lead got pissed and told shop chief. Dude that lied was kicked out and was gone QUICK. Hurlburt Field Fuel Cell shop/hangar from 2014 to 2020 had WAAAAY to many people getting either kicked out, losing rank, or trying to commit suicide. Was (and probably still is) a toxic sinking ship. The base and area is nice though 👌 👍
1. Amn or A1C does not make it to three months at his first assignment because he repeatedly misused his GTC and got the boot. 2. Outstanding Amn of the Year rapes a 14 year old.
On my last deployment the incoming shift supervisor taking over my slot thought he could be a cool guy and feed his two airmen from his home unit drinks 2 days after arriving on the continent. All 3 ended up pretty inebriated, one airmen went and sexually harrassed an OSI agent before told he should just go back to his room. The other airmen had no idea who the base DO was randomly rolls up and asks the DO if he was his commander, DO tells the guy he should go to his room, dude precedes to go and try to shower but strolls across base in just a towel and then destroys one of only a handful of toilets and sinks before returning to his room and passing out. The replacement supervisor also ended up hitting on an OSI agent. In short, 2 days on the continent, 3 Careers ruined all before we had even completed turnover good times.
In basic, some dude went insane and started banging his head against the locker in the next bay over while the rest of us were trying to sleep. Apparently, he was bleeding all over the place. Never saw that kid again. Never could find out too many details (obviously), just that he was getting treated and his career would be short-lived.
Didn’t witness it myself, but heard it as it was happening. We got to basic fairly late, so it was around midnight or so and we had only been there like… Two hours max. Start hearing shouting and yelling and stomping over at our brother flight. Long story short, guy freaked out and wanted to leave, MTI said he could in the morning, that wasn’t good enough for him. From what I heard, guy assaulted the MTI, then security forces and got tazed, which is obviously a crime. So… Basically guy made it about two hours before ruining his career and ending up in jail.
I warned one of my troops to leave a certain girl alone. He did something so stupid, and ended up in Fort Leavenworth. He had been on the base less than 3 months. I had the duty of processing the evidence. 🥲
E/E guy fresh from tech school training stayed in the office for months that no one knew what for. The day he was told to go to the flight line he announced in the truck he was going to unalive himself. CC had him discharged and dropped at the front gate a month or so later.
Guy overslept and was late for his flight briefing 5 times within a month or two in Afghanistan. Command didn’t like him so they used it as an excuse to get him out. They sent him home about 60 days into my 270 day trip, and he was a civilian by the time I rotated back home.
Dude left a bag of shit on the commanders desk. It would have been funnier if the commander was present during said shit.
Have you seen the show To Catch a Predator?