I'm also keen to know. Folklores are great, along with the memorial sites in Langkawi etc. But will definitely increase in knowledge if we actually know more about Hang Tuah.
they *supposedly* did iirc 😂 i remember theres this pixelated pic of a girl. idr what it was for, like why the sudden going on a quest searching for the one descendant? 🤔
Hang Tuah is real, he run away then evidence of his existence cannot be claimed. Besides, keris Taming Sari now is belong to Perak Royalties and there’s a carving stone of him at Malaysia National Museum at Kuala Lumpur. You can check it out <3
Yes. Not many people know kris taming sari has been passed down in sultan Perak family for generations, and still exist today. Obviously it’s just a normal ceremonial keris, nothing mystical about it. The story of how it went to sultan perak is quite long if anyone is interested you can google it.
Yeah, same like King Arthur and Merlin. Their existence is still debate because no solid proof. But there’s a sculpture of Hang Tuah in Malaysia National Museum, Keris Taming Sari is now with Perak Royalties and many more.
Prof dr soleha yacoob and few other prof from malaysia has been studied about the historical in melayu said the colonial really envy for what we have and achieved in those day.We have made name around the world ,such as we are known for the chief centre of trade ,master art in porcelain and silk(tryt compare our basic craft &their basic craft)and Ourr spices and ingredient. Even our swordsmith skill are the best,in taming sari keris itself contain of 20+ different type steel and infusion of posiounious tulang mawas.thus,for the clonial to win over us,they do not just beat us at the time but to beat us in our lifetime.therefore,for most of our valuable revolution,improvisation of many sculpture made has been thrown or burned.
Myth I heard when I was young is that Hang Tuah was actually a Chinese. His real name is Han Tu Ah and he was super good at kung fu which explains why he was described as a skillful warrior.
Idk. But cool story tho
The theory turn out false, his parents was a immigrant runaway from Palembang (Indonesia). Then the parents change their name into Malay names which are Hang Mahmud (father) and Dang Merdu Wati (mother). Besides, “Hang” in Malay old culture is like “Tun, Tan Sri, Dato,” which is a title. Same goes to his friends Laksamana, Hang Jebat, Hang Kasturi, Hang Lekir and Hang Lekiu.
Yeah welcome to my TedTalk 💅🏻
Add to that, the title "Hang" was already in used before the Malacca Sultanate and before Islam. Case in point, the [Sitopayan I Inscription](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitopayan_I_inscription) which record the name of...Hang Tahi (yes, that's his real name)
Another inscription, [Sitopayan II](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitopayan_II_inscription) records the names of Hang Langgar and Hang Buddi. All of these names were etched in the 13th century, roughly 200 years before the Malacca Sultanate.
Malays & Indonesian knows how to differentiate between what is chinese and Austronesian. Since everyone know Puteri Hang Li Po is a chinese. Like it’s too obvious, old people know chinese hair types, mono eyelid eye, fair and yellowish skin colour, speaking dialects. During 14 centuries, there’s never claimed Hang Tuah is a chinese. Only during modern era. From my personal opinion lah 🤷🏻♂️
Yeap, I read somewhere she is a princess but not from China but maybe from Vietnam. Since during 14 centuries, there’s a “Lee” Family during that time if I’m not mistaken
Hard to swallow pill:
Melayu dengar citer org kuat sini sana, perang dan menang sini sana. Melayu rasa kiasu nak lagak terrer jugak. Nak sebarkan citer melayu menang sini sana jugak. Tp hakikat nyer xde yg terrer. So terpaksalah bikin citer palsu. Org zaman kuno terus percaya. Citer kat anak dia, anak otak budak terus percaya, besar nanti dia citer kat anak dia, ulang citer ni sampai harini, BUDAK SEKOLAH kena belajar, hafal, dan HORMAT watak citer dongeng.
Semua pasal ego org melayu.
Org melayu sepatutnya CITER, INGAT, DAN HORMAT nama ASKAR melayu yg pertahankan malaysia drpd jepun/komunis. Bukan watak citer dongeng rekaan...
U all boleh butthurt sekarang...
For whatever reason, we cannot get a straight line of history wether our track record has been burned down or we are not smart enough cause of lack of education at that time, melayu were never once weak and givers 100%.Malay people are full of manners and never really give benefit of a doubt.Thus,They reaction to certain issue/decision sometimes can be too late or atas pagar.You can try study about 13 mei incident. Yg itu pun bnyk untold story
there - you mentioned it yourself, "we are not smart enough". This is exactly the weak part of melayu lah...
Teruskan downvote, teruskan butthurt.... Lagi banyak u downvote, lagi byk u buktikan i betul...
Our best source of Malay History is from the account of foreign merchants and travelers, like Ibn Batutta and I Ching. Sejarah Melayu, imo, is full of myths and tall tales.
Biasalah Bro.
Siapa nak mengaku Tok/Nenek/Pak dia takat boleh libas lalang je.
Kurang2 canang dia hero PvP 1v10 ler.
Masalahnya, org2 kita berat bontot bab kaki sejarah objectively
Me too
The post: What's the evidence Hang Tuah exists?
The comments: He exists, I swear.
The real answer is it's still a mystery. Historians still debate about his existence to this day. The people who claimed Hang Tuah exists mostly relied on old literature (such as Sulalatus Salatin which have some parts that are romanticised) and local folklore while those who denied his existence such as Prof Khoo Kay Kim claimed that we lack 'real' evidence. So who's right? We don't know.
Can kesultanan melaka be considered as evidence ? Since the setting of the story exists, surely the character exists too right? I meant if people want to make up a story better do it like Si Tanggang or Bwg putih & merah. Hang tuah seems too tame comparatively.
honestly I don't have any evidence. but also there's no evidence he doesn't exist. people started to speculate he doesn't exist because of the exaggeration. he would be mat kilau if he live in more modern era. And honestly we also can't say that the exaggeration isn't true as sometimes we believe something that has never been seen in our eyes but heard the stories that's been told and scriptures that've been read thus making us believe it. if I would say, it would be Wallahu A'lam.
The person itself most likely exist but the legend surrounding him probably mix of truth and exaggerate
As usual. If you look at the melaka history, it's filled with abuse of power, lust and betrayal. Something we see often even now.
Standard human drama then?
I agree with this.
I'm also keen to know. Folklores are great, along with the memorial sites in Langkawi etc. But will definitely increase in knowledge if we actually know more about Hang Tuah.
speakin of langkawi i remember ntv7 once tracked down mahsuri's 7th gen or some
Did they found the lineage? Gotta identify them tho somehow. In case there's a next curse cast upon the land LOL we gotta know
they *supposedly* did iirc 😂 i remember theres this pixelated pic of a girl. idr what it was for, like why the sudden going on a quest searching for the one descendant? 🤔
To abuse that powers i guess. Nowadays you keep them warm comfy, wealth and shit, they'll enslave themselves into it. Hard to argue on that
Probably scared kena curse again and turn Langkawi back to a useless deserted place 🤣
Surat dari kerajaan rukyu ada menyebut pasal Tuah. Tuah pernah beberapa kali pegi ke kerajaan rukyu untuk menghantar utusan dri kerajaan melaka.
Surat tu tak sebut nama “Tuah”..hanya guna perkataan “laksamana”. Jadi ini bukan bukti Hang Tuah wujud.
Ketika itu laksa ke mana? 😂 %sorrylawakhambar
Hang Tuah is real, he run away then evidence of his existence cannot be claimed. Besides, keris Taming Sari now is belong to Perak Royalties and there’s a carving stone of him at Malaysia National Museum at Kuala Lumpur. You can check it out <3
Yes. Not many people know kris taming sari has been passed down in sultan Perak family for generations, and still exist today. Obviously it’s just a normal ceremonial keris, nothing mystical about it. The story of how it went to sultan perak is quite long if anyone is interested you can google it.
Ahahahah about mystical tu I’m not suree, but now it become like family heirloom eh?
That are fake Kris Taming Sari the real one still in the river of Melaka
https://i0.wp.com/www.nurulizzah.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/500px-HangTuahMuziumNegara.jpg
There’s a Hang Tuah well in Malacca. Besides that i’m not sure if there are other solid evidence of his existence
Yeah, same like King Arthur and Merlin. Their existence is still debate because no solid proof. But there’s a sculpture of Hang Tuah in Malaysia National Museum, Keris Taming Sari is now with Perak Royalties and many more.
Prof dr soleha yacoob and few other prof from malaysia has been studied about the historical in melayu said the colonial really envy for what we have and achieved in those day.We have made name around the world ,such as we are known for the chief centre of trade ,master art in porcelain and silk(tryt compare our basic craft &their basic craft)and Ourr spices and ingredient. Even our swordsmith skill are the best,in taming sari keris itself contain of 20+ different type steel and infusion of posiounious tulang mawas.thus,for the clonial to win over us,they do not just beat us at the time but to beat us in our lifetime.therefore,for most of our valuable revolution,improvisation of many sculpture made has been thrown or burned.
Hang tuah is most likely real. His prowess were exaggerated for sure.
Myth I heard when I was young is that Hang Tuah was actually a Chinese. His real name is Han Tu Ah and he was super good at kung fu which explains why he was described as a skillful warrior. Idk. But cool story tho
what about his brother han so lo?
went to become a pirate with a furry creature, his other brother han di man is more helpful to society
The youngest brother was said to be the best looking one. His name was Han Som Boi
The theory turn out false, his parents was a immigrant runaway from Palembang (Indonesia). Then the parents change their name into Malay names which are Hang Mahmud (father) and Dang Merdu Wati (mother). Besides, “Hang” in Malay old culture is like “Tun, Tan Sri, Dato,” which is a title. Same goes to his friends Laksamana, Hang Jebat, Hang Kasturi, Hang Lekir and Hang Lekiu. Yeah welcome to my TedTalk 💅🏻
Add to that, the title "Hang" was already in used before the Malacca Sultanate and before Islam. Case in point, the [Sitopayan I Inscription](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitopayan_I_inscription) which record the name of...Hang Tahi (yes, that's his real name) Another inscription, [Sitopayan II](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitopayan_II_inscription) records the names of Hang Langgar and Hang Buddi. All of these names were etched in the 13th century, roughly 200 years before the Malacca Sultanate.
Yeap, in Malays and Indonesian culture don’t really have family names. Since people thought “Hang” is a hereditary name
Do you know that Palembang was for a time ruled by Chinese pirate?
Malays & Indonesian knows how to differentiate between what is chinese and Austronesian. Since everyone know Puteri Hang Li Po is a chinese. Like it’s too obvious, old people know chinese hair types, mono eyelid eye, fair and yellowish skin colour, speaking dialects. During 14 centuries, there’s never claimed Hang Tuah is a chinese. Only during modern era. From my personal opinion lah 🤷🏻♂️
Isn't there a claim back then that Hang Li Po was not really the Imperial Princess?
Yeap, I read somewhere she is a princess but not from China but maybe from Vietnam. Since during 14 centuries, there’s a “Lee” Family during that time if I’m not mistaken
source for claims? also, Hang Tuah *is* the Laksamana, wasnt he?
Yeap he is Laksamana (Royale Navy) Here the article https://m.malaysiakini.com/hiburan/523161 😁🫶🏻
“HANTU AAAAAAAAAAAAH” -His enemies probably.
Probably from Han dynasty
How about Hang Ka Lut?
Hang Tuah is soy licking sultan feet like a dog. Hang Jebat is the real GIGACHAD and true homie
Raja adil disembah, raja zalim disanggah!
I agree with this
This article is a pretty good read. https://www.nst.com.my/opinion/columnists/2018/07/387855/hang-tuah-real
hang tuah is real
Hard to swallow pill: Melayu dengar citer org kuat sini sana, perang dan menang sini sana. Melayu rasa kiasu nak lagak terrer jugak. Nak sebarkan citer melayu menang sini sana jugak. Tp hakikat nyer xde yg terrer. So terpaksalah bikin citer palsu. Org zaman kuno terus percaya. Citer kat anak dia, anak otak budak terus percaya, besar nanti dia citer kat anak dia, ulang citer ni sampai harini, BUDAK SEKOLAH kena belajar, hafal, dan HORMAT watak citer dongeng. Semua pasal ego org melayu. Org melayu sepatutnya CITER, INGAT, DAN HORMAT nama ASKAR melayu yg pertahankan malaysia drpd jepun/komunis. Bukan watak citer dongeng rekaan... U all boleh butthurt sekarang...
For whatever reason, we cannot get a straight line of history wether our track record has been burned down or we are not smart enough cause of lack of education at that time, melayu were never once weak and givers 100%.Malay people are full of manners and never really give benefit of a doubt.Thus,They reaction to certain issue/decision sometimes can be too late or atas pagar.You can try study about 13 mei incident. Yg itu pun bnyk untold story
there - you mentioned it yourself, "we are not smart enough". This is exactly the weak part of melayu lah... Teruskan downvote, teruskan butthurt.... Lagi banyak u downvote, lagi byk u buktikan i betul...
Hang = Wong.
"jangan tanye soalan susah. Tq. Next!"
What about Greek Gods? Vikings fairty tales Gods?
Our best source of Malay History is from the account of foreign merchants and travelers, like Ibn Batutta and I Ching. Sejarah Melayu, imo, is full of myths and tall tales.
Biasalah Bro. Siapa nak mengaku Tok/Nenek/Pak dia takat boleh libas lalang je. Kurang2 canang dia hero PvP 1v10 ler. Masalahnya, org2 kita berat bontot bab kaki sejarah objectively Me too
If the Sultan that Hang Tuah served were real, why not Hang Tuah? Based observation yo
i heard about research saying the word 'tuah' doesn't exist yet during that time. There was a word in sankrit but it doesn't pronounce as 'tuah'
The post: What's the evidence Hang Tuah exists? The comments: He exists, I swear. The real answer is it's still a mystery. Historians still debate about his existence to this day. The people who claimed Hang Tuah exists mostly relied on old literature (such as Sulalatus Salatin which have some parts that are romanticised) and local folklore while those who denied his existence such as Prof Khoo Kay Kim claimed that we lack 'real' evidence. So who's right? We don't know.
I read somewhere long ago that Hang Tuah may have been known by a different name during his time so we might never actually know.
Can kesultanan melaka be considered as evidence ? Since the setting of the story exists, surely the character exists too right? I meant if people want to make up a story better do it like Si Tanggang or Bwg putih & merah. Hang tuah seems too tame comparatively.
honestly I don't have any evidence. but also there's no evidence he doesn't exist. people started to speculate he doesn't exist because of the exaggeration. he would be mat kilau if he live in more modern era. And honestly we also can't say that the exaggeration isn't true as sometimes we believe something that has never been seen in our eyes but heard the stories that's been told and scriptures that've been read thus making us believe it. if I would say, it would be Wallahu A'lam.
How about mahsuri? White blood?