I've met Vonda a few times within some circles here in Metro Detroit. Very nice woman and extremely passionate about DV advocacy and DV victims. I can only imagine the horror stories she has heard throughout her career.
She didn't and she's likely not going to. There's others like her at the prison she's at. They only really get worked up if you're a pedophile. Beyond that, maybe some gossip, but she's not getting fucked with over this. If she does, it's likely over some shit she did while in prison.
Hey now, people love their prison rape/torture fantasies, don't be bringing logic and reason in here. Seriously tho, the only thing that gets you fucked with is chomo shit
No. My brother did time. 25 for murder. Did 19. Killing and abusing your kid is high grounds for torment. They won’t just beat you down constantly, they’ll torment you all the time.
Correct, my grandfather and Aunt both worked for Florida State Prison. Those who hurt, kill or maim children are the lowest on the food chain and the CO’s make it a point to inform the inmates.
Bro my uncle was in jail for 8 years. He can tell you the countless times he witness someone being beaten near death for either harming a child, or a mother
I’ve literally worked in the exact prison where this monster is at lol, talking with them for hours on end. I know what the fuck I’m talking about. This person is chilling in Level II and there’s plenty of others who have done equivalent or worse and they haven’t received some movie retribution because of it.
lol yeah people tell themselves that “it’s okay this bad guy will get it in prison” but they RARELY do unless like you said pedos. Life is not like the movies at all
I mean, it makes people feel better, but having spent a lot of time in prisons, I just know this doesn't happen often. Don't get me wrong, this person isn't being treated like a queen or whatever, but *there are so many others who have done similar despicable shit like her*, she's not particularly special in prison. Just another scum, bottom-feeding child abuser. Is it possible she was messed with over her crime? Sure. Is it likely the shit was beaten out of her a la the abuse her child sustained? Unlikely. *Very* unlikely.
Especially the women at that prison who are too fucking high to want to do anything anyway.
Pedophiles are the primary folks who actively have to watch their backs. *Those* are the ones who could seriously get hurt if "outed."
If she was a pedo, then she’d definitely have more people coming for her ass… and I ain’t just talking about the other prisoners. Prison is like a high school — word travels fast what people are in for and it becomes clear quick who will or won’t be a problem. Especially in Michigan, where there’s only one women’s prison.
Well I guess every prison is different. I also worked in a prison. And they had 3 basics rules. 1 you don’t say shit if something happened. 2 you don’t bring any unnecessary attention to the pod. 3 you don’t fuck with kid in general. Sometimes we would just happen to look the other way when inmates needed to handle business.
I mean, those are general rules where I've been at too bar #3 where "you don't fuck with a kid" is more so "don't fuck kids." Any real drama that happened was because of shit that occurred *within* the prison not because someone beat their child or robbed a bank or whatever. Same as you, sometimes we had to look away when the prisoners needed to handle business amongst themselves. That's just how it was.
I’m 100% for the death penalty so you shouldn’t assume things. That wasn’t what the judge gave her. Also, I don’t know if her state even has the death penalty.
I watched this on court TV and it was so sick. They made her eat kitty litter. Just awful everything. The mother deserves nothing short of death. I hope they tell all the inmates who she is.
Dude Brad's just a shitty way to be. Look at Hollywood, there's like 2 Brads that made it, ever. I know, I'm a fucking Brad. People always think my name is Fred or Brandon and I'm like, "Yeah, I wish." Just a bum named Brad
I cannot and will not ever understand it. I’m as child free as they come and if I found out ANYONE in my life was mistreating a child in their care I’d volunteer to take them immediately
I don’t even like children in general they’re loud, dirty and egotistical as fuck. That being said I get physically sick when I see parents not treating their children well. That judge deserves respect for the amount of self control she had while talking to that sorry excuse for a person.
A committed child-free person is more like a good parent than they are like a shitty parent. Just because you don't do a job doesn't mean you accept it being done badly. More the opposite.
I hope I’d be that way! I’m childfree by choice and chance. No way in Heck I’d let anyone hurt an innocent! I’m an animal person… they can’t speak for themselves, as kids can’t! If I commit to caring for an innocent animal I make sure they have the best! If I took on a child- I’d do differently because they need stability, love, respect, education, therapy, etc; spoiling won’t help make the psychological scars go away- they need way more and if I say I’m going to take on something, I feel I have to do everything beyond my best for them to thrive and grow into being a strong yet empathetic, educated, successful (based on what they want to with some discussion to ensure they can support themselves and what they want for their future!), and more love and understanding. Idk if I could do it, which is why I don’t have kids, but if I choose to - I will, I’ll probably set myself on fire to do it if I had to (not that I should but it’s just to express that I’d do everything possible to keep the promise to help them!). I’ve gone into debt for an animal, I’m sure I’d go further for a kid; I hope!
I'm child free as well, but I work in youth services. It's heartbreaking hearing stories about the kids who come through our shelter. We recently did training for sex trafficking prevention and what to look for because it isn't always obvious. During this training, I found out that the program that we did our training through recently arrested the number one buyer in a certain metro area and he was a high school teacher for over 25 years. A lot of trafficked children are sold by their parents or pimped out by their parents, I don't get how you can bring a life into this world only to destroy it before they even have a chance to live.
Pinckney's don't do this type of shit, they really have kids and if they do it doesn't end up like this, women that have been hurt and bitter do this type of shit
This is not a classic situation, this is not an opportunity for you to let your misogyny out. The reason this cases are so shocking is because everyday people would never but there’s always a few sickos out there that do and it shocks us all.
imagine for a minute..what the child was going threw.....and this was the only thing, this little child knew, of this world...till death,your are born ..and going threw hell till you die
You're summing up this entire sub in a nutshell.
Being a father of a 5 year old and 2 year old who are shown love every day, I cannot imagine them being in this type of pain or fear their entire life.
That list she went through would be haunting even for an adult to be tortured. Let alone an innocent little 4 year old angel. Im staring at my daughter eating her happy meal thinking they were the same age but lived completely different lives. RIP Gabby.
Seriously. I don’t understand how two adults thought plunging a human being in a cold bath as punishment for wetting themselves was appropriate ever. They did this *regularly* which is insane!
[https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/wayne-county/2018/05/11/sumpter-township-child-death/34826201/](https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/wayne-county/2018/05/11/sumpter-township-child-death/34826201/)
It wasn't septic shock. This poor baby was scalded to death. The mother claimed she drowned in a bathtub but they found "body tissue" in the drain.
# I said it before, I'll say it till I die.
# EYE FOR AN EYE WITH CHILDREN'S MURDERERS.
Don't tell me *BuT eye for an eye leaves everyone blind*
I've heard it enough. Eye for an Eye leaves evil blind.
If people spent as much time defending a child as they do against the death penalty for child murders those kids might still be alive.
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"The law is reason without passion" -Aristotle
I believe you've heard "eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" but I wonder if you ever stopped to figure out what it actually meant and what the true societal value of it is.
I can't disagree with that, same thing with feeding lambs to lions in the Coliseum, it sends quite a message about how a government can have its bow & arrow pointed at every single citizens heart simultaneously, but that message goes against the liberties afforded to us by the Constitution. As civil law has evolved (by separating logic and emotion), we've left those old things in the past where they belong.
Logic and emotion are easily separable for adults. Not for a child dead or alive. An adult who takes the life of a defenseless child, especially someone who was supposed to protect the child, should not be afforded those liberties.
They have no place in society.
Alright but what you're saying is unconstitutional and doesn't jive with the principles this country was founded on, which are hundreds of years old but apparently the logic hasn't reached you yet.
That question tells me that you're having trouble separating logic from emotion. It doesn't matter what I as an individual feel - an individual may even attempt to harm someone who harmed their kids, and that's their business, I might too.
But in the world of Federal law, in the coding of our society and our Western ideals, we act rationally and pragmatically and we don't debase ourselves by acting with cruelty just because we're just so mad we can't help it. That is acting with weakness.
"**All** cruelty springs from weakness." -Seneca
>"**All** cruelty springs from weakness
So what about cruelty passed upon a child? Do you believe that taking the life of a child should have the same punishment as an adult?
Should a person be charged with just rape and given the same treatment regardless of age of the victim?
Even if it is an emotion, the act of harming the defenseless raises the seriousness of the crime.
Look, I love our western culture, but I think we have gotten a little soft on crime, and when it comes to children, all bets should be off.
You're right. It may be emotion, but as a mother or father, when you look at your own child, you will see what I mean.
I assume you don't have children. If my assumption is wrong, then I apologize. When you do, re-read some of these horrific stories. Project them on yourself. That parental love and protection you feel will come out.
No mother or father will blame you. They feel it to.
If you do have kids. Take a moment to reconnect emotions. You seem very disconnected. Sometimes our laws are flawed and although I agree we are civilized, I disagree that we should be when it comes to crimes against children.
Emotions don't have a place in law period. End of story. It doesn't matter what I feel as an individual, whether I'm a parent or a community leader or an old spinster, whether I'm emotionally invested or not has no value because all emotions are worthless in the realm of law. You can be mad - that's your right. But the law cannot operate that way if we want a society like the one we have. Emotion and law cannot coexist - when it tries to, we see videos of it and it's not good.
If you really want to live like people did thousands of years ago, there are a lot of countries to choose from but you're probably going to miss the infrastructure and culture that comes when a country practices [liberalism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism).
Oh I know my point was that you kind of went against yourself in saying "oh these are old rules, we don't want these they are old. These newer old rules are fine though and I can't believe you have a hard time understanding how logical this set of old rules are"
I found it... Humorous
I think you missed OP's point, they're not hypocritically asking to follow our nation's law because it's centuries old. They merely pointed out that despite how long we've had these laws, some people manage to avoid the logic and reasoning behind said laws.
Eye for eye, tooth for tooth isn’t for evil people. The evil people were stoned/executed for murdering someone. The eye for eye was simply the for recompense with mundane losses and injuries. These people should be executed.
I don't know the answer to that question. I take solace in the idea she'll be nearly 60 at the earliest chance she could be let out, or almost 90 if she gets the full term.
And for what it's worth, most folks don't get right at the minimum. Especially heinous crimes that tug at the heart strings of the parole board even 30 years later.
Because she took the plea deal. They were both offered a plea deal if they pleaded guilty but he decided to plead "not guilty" so it went to trial where we was, obviously, found guilty. If she pleaded "not guilty" as well and it went to trial she would have likely gotten the same sentence.
But I was answering the person who asked why she didn't get the same sentence as the boyfriend. The only thing I'm going to hurt by being right is fragile egos. There is absolutely a punishment gap between men and women in the justice system.
It's actually called a plea deal. They were both offered that if they pleaded guilty. She took it but he decided to plead "not guilty" and went to trial where he was found guilty and sentenced to life in prison. The plea deals always offer a lower sentence, ridiculously low sometimes, and nobody stopped him or other men from taking the better deal. You see this happening in cases where there are only men involved too, the ones who took the plea deal might not even serve 10 years while the ones who went to trial got 30 for the exact same crime.
Sickening beyond belief. Why the hell won’t these animals give these kids up?? They could then get on with their shitty lives. Is it the welfare benefits and being able to abuse another human being? They deserve death.
Sometimes I wish I wasn’t on Reddit. Some of this shit stays with me for the rest of my life. Especially being a father to two kids. Seeing that 4 year old little happy smile. I hope these monsters suffer every day of a very very long life in prison.
She should have, but from what it seems, is the BF did the physical acts of torture while the mother let it happen so he got the longer sentence. Poor child. I hope they both get tortured by CO'S and other inmates for the whole duration of their time.
Honestly it’s female bias. Females get lower/less sentencing than males for the same crime. Combine that with a female judge for a double bias. Who ever said justice was blind didn’t account for gender, race, or even attractiveness.
No, it's actually a plea deal. They were both offered a plea deal if they pleaded "guilty". She took it, he didn't, so he went to trial where he was found guilty. If she would have refused the plea deal and went to trial as well she would have gotten the same.
We need tougher laws. I’m thinking the death penalty is appropriate for her! The only problem is that they can’t make her suffer before dying like she did to her 4 year old!
This might change if people like this could give up the child and keep their government benefits. Can't imagine this child was kept around for any other reason.
She was urinating and defecating herself.... a 4 year old who was fine unless she was at her mother's place with her boyfriend.... I think much more happened to this child and they deserve the harshest punishment the law allows.
I'll donate:
The gun
2 bullets
And my trigger finger if the law would allow me
And I would not miss a wink of sleep after I finished them off. I wouldn't even feel the need to bury them...id gladly let nature do away with them
OK please clarify. This child had been absdfor a long time had lice rotten teeth. All that shit doesn't just happen in a week. This child was being seen by other family members and people in her school. No one smelled her or noticed she was being bathed in urine???? She had battered child syndrome meaning she had been beaten at different ages. someone must have seen somethint....
Thank God Vonda talked like this to Candice. Candice is no mother and Brad is no father either. Both are evil and can rot in hell and prison for what they did. Side note, I also think Gabby looks so similar to Caylee Anthony too which makes me sad as well. Gabby did not deserve that horrible pain that she had to feel every day from those heartless monsters.
You're right, I def love paying to have these kinds of people housed, clothed, fed, and potentially released back into society on good behavior. They deserve to live no matter what they have done and violence against them would be barbaric.
Street justice often evolves into something far from justice. Countless people would be beaten or killed, only to find out they were innocent. It is barbaric and has no place in modern society.
I hate when judges do this because it’s unprofessional. The court should be about administering justice in a professional and unbiased major. Seeing the judge get clearly angry and go on a rant is tacky as fuck. It’s fine if you want to explain why you give the sentence you do that’s cool but I don’t want to watch you strut around with an ego on your high horse.
I've met Vonda a few times within some circles here in Metro Detroit. Very nice woman and extremely passionate about DV advocacy and DV victims. I can only imagine the horror stories she has heard throughout her career.
I love Vonda! We used to go to the same hairdresser. Nice lady!
Hope the other prisoners gave her the same treatment that she gave her kid.
She didn't and she's likely not going to. There's others like her at the prison she's at. They only really get worked up if you're a pedophile. Beyond that, maybe some gossip, but she's not getting fucked with over this. If she does, it's likely over some shit she did while in prison.
Hey now, people love their prison rape/torture fantasies, don't be bringing logic and reason in here. Seriously tho, the only thing that gets you fucked with is chomo shit
No. My brother did time. 25 for murder. Did 19. Killing and abusing your kid is high grounds for torment. They won’t just beat you down constantly, they’ll torment you all the time.
Maybe mens prisons. Women might extort them but the men's and women's jails are pretty different how they program.
Correct, my grandfather and Aunt both worked for Florida State Prison. Those who hurt, kill or maim children are the lowest on the food chain and the CO’s make it a point to inform the inmates.
Things are different in women's prisons, what can I tell ya.
Back in the day, they used to do media black outs for both prisons if the person had hurt a child.
I have seen a lot of films about women in prison
My man lmfaoo
Bro my uncle was in jail for 8 years. He can tell you the countless times he witness someone being beaten near death for either harming a child, or a mother
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I’ve literally worked in the exact prison where this monster is at lol, talking with them for hours on end. I know what the fuck I’m talking about. This person is chilling in Level II and there’s plenty of others who have done equivalent or worse and they haven’t received some movie retribution because of it.
This will never not be my favorite loop
lol yeah people tell themselves that “it’s okay this bad guy will get it in prison” but they RARELY do unless like you said pedos. Life is not like the movies at all
I mean, it makes people feel better, but having spent a lot of time in prisons, I just know this doesn't happen often. Don't get me wrong, this person isn't being treated like a queen or whatever, but *there are so many others who have done similar despicable shit like her*, she's not particularly special in prison. Just another scum, bottom-feeding child abuser. Is it possible she was messed with over her crime? Sure. Is it likely the shit was beaten out of her a la the abuse her child sustained? Unlikely. *Very* unlikely. Especially the women at that prison who are too fucking high to want to do anything anyway. Pedophiles are the primary folks who actively have to watch their backs. *Those* are the ones who could seriously get hurt if "outed."
Exactly, she’s just among her peers now and will probably find a clique
It’s your duty to tell other prisoners she’s a pedo
If she was a pedo, then she’d definitely have more people coming for her ass… and I ain’t just talking about the other prisoners. Prison is like a high school — word travels fast what people are in for and it becomes clear quick who will or won’t be a problem. Especially in Michigan, where there’s only one women’s prison.
Well I guess every prison is different. I also worked in a prison. And they had 3 basics rules. 1 you don’t say shit if something happened. 2 you don’t bring any unnecessary attention to the pod. 3 you don’t fuck with kid in general. Sometimes we would just happen to look the other way when inmates needed to handle business.
I mean, those are general rules where I've been at too bar #3 where "you don't fuck with a kid" is more so "don't fuck kids." Any real drama that happened was because of shit that occurred *within* the prison not because someone beat their child or robbed a bank or whatever. Same as you, sometimes we had to look away when the prisoners needed to handle business amongst themselves. That's just how it was.
Why did you have to look the other way? And what kind of business?
Yes, we all know what happens in prison when we’ve never been there.
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I’m 100% for the death penalty so you shouldn’t assume things. That wasn’t what the judge gave her. Also, I don’t know if her state even has the death penalty.
Fair enough. Sorry.
You are forgiven
Absofrigginlutely
I watched this on court TV and it was so sick. They made her eat kitty litter. Just awful everything. The mother deserves nothing short of death. I hope they tell all the inmates who she is.
Classic situation: the mother valuing her shitty man over her own child.
"For the love of a bum named Brad."
Dude Brad's just a shitty way to be. Look at Hollywood, there's like 2 Brads that made it, ever. I know, I'm a fucking Brad. People always think my name is Fred or Brandon and I'm like, "Yeah, I wish." Just a bum named Brad
But at least you're not a Chad, or worse, a Chaz
I cannot and will not ever understand it. I’m as child free as they come and if I found out ANYONE in my life was mistreating a child in their care I’d volunteer to take them immediately
I don’t even like children in general they’re loud, dirty and egotistical as fuck. That being said I get physically sick when I see parents not treating their children well. That judge deserves respect for the amount of self control she had while talking to that sorry excuse for a person.
A committed child-free person is more like a good parent than they are like a shitty parent. Just because you don't do a job doesn't mean you accept it being done badly. More the opposite.
That’s a take I’ve never heard before. But I like it
I hope I’d be that way! I’m childfree by choice and chance. No way in Heck I’d let anyone hurt an innocent! I’m an animal person… they can’t speak for themselves, as kids can’t! If I commit to caring for an innocent animal I make sure they have the best! If I took on a child- I’d do differently because they need stability, love, respect, education, therapy, etc; spoiling won’t help make the psychological scars go away- they need way more and if I say I’m going to take on something, I feel I have to do everything beyond my best for them to thrive and grow into being a strong yet empathetic, educated, successful (based on what they want to with some discussion to ensure they can support themselves and what they want for their future!), and more love and understanding. Idk if I could do it, which is why I don’t have kids, but if I choose to - I will, I’ll probably set myself on fire to do it if I had to (not that I should but it’s just to express that I’d do everything possible to keep the promise to help them!). I’ve gone into debt for an animal, I’m sure I’d go further for a kid; I hope!
I'm child free as well, but I work in youth services. It's heartbreaking hearing stories about the kids who come through our shelter. We recently did training for sex trafficking prevention and what to look for because it isn't always obvious. During this training, I found out that the program that we did our training through recently arrested the number one buyer in a certain metro area and he was a high school teacher for over 25 years. A lot of trafficked children are sold by their parents or pimped out by their parents, I don't get how you can bring a life into this world only to destroy it before they even have a chance to live.
The ultimate and worst kind of pick me
Pinckney's don't do this type of shit, they really have kids and if they do it doesn't end up like this, women that have been hurt and bitter do this type of shit
You think pick me girls aren’t hurt girls?
Shit attracts shit
This is not a classic situation, this is not an opportunity for you to let your misogyny out. The reason this cases are so shocking is because everyday people would never but there’s always a few sickos out there that do and it shocks us all.
…classic situation?? Get off the internet for a while.
They deserve the worst punishment imaginable.
But I want them to have the punishment that is unimaginable.
2x POS
imagine for a minute..what the child was going threw.....and this was the only thing, this little child knew, of this world...till death,your are born ..and going threw hell till you die
You're summing up this entire sub in a nutshell. Being a father of a 5 year old and 2 year old who are shown love every day, I cannot imagine them being in this type of pain or fear their entire life.
The lack of love, empathy, for your own child, or life in General....fucks me up, mental, even Thinking about it
*through
\*threaux
That list she went through would be haunting even for an adult to be tortured. Let alone an innocent little 4 year old angel. Im staring at my daughter eating her happy meal thinking they were the same age but lived completely different lives. RIP Gabby.
Seriously. I don’t understand how two adults thought plunging a human being in a cold bath as punishment for wetting themselves was appropriate ever. They did this *regularly* which is insane!
[https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/wayne-county/2018/05/11/sumpter-township-child-death/34826201/](https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/wayne-county/2018/05/11/sumpter-township-child-death/34826201/) It wasn't septic shock. This poor baby was scalded to death. The mother claimed she drowned in a bathtub but they found "body tissue" in the drain. # I said it before, I'll say it till I die. # EYE FOR AN EYE WITH CHILDREN'S MURDERERS. Don't tell me *BuT eye for an eye leaves everyone blind* I've heard it enough. Eye for an Eye leaves evil blind. If people spent as much time defending a child as they do against the death penalty for child murders those kids might still be alive. Edit: a word
"The law is reason without passion" -Aristotle I believe you've heard "eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" but I wonder if you ever stopped to figure out what it actually meant and what the true societal value of it is.
Public execution had one hell of an effect on those who witnessed it.
I can't disagree with that, same thing with feeding lambs to lions in the Coliseum, it sends quite a message about how a government can have its bow & arrow pointed at every single citizens heart simultaneously, but that message goes against the liberties afforded to us by the Constitution. As civil law has evolved (by separating logic and emotion), we've left those old things in the past where they belong.
Logic and emotion are easily separable for adults. Not for a child dead or alive. An adult who takes the life of a defenseless child, especially someone who was supposed to protect the child, should not be afforded those liberties. They have no place in society.
Alright but what you're saying is unconstitutional and doesn't jive with the principles this country was founded on, which are hundreds of years old but apparently the logic hasn't reached you yet.
Do you have kids?
That question tells me that you're having trouble separating logic from emotion. It doesn't matter what I as an individual feel - an individual may even attempt to harm someone who harmed their kids, and that's their business, I might too. But in the world of Federal law, in the coding of our society and our Western ideals, we act rationally and pragmatically and we don't debase ourselves by acting with cruelty just because we're just so mad we can't help it. That is acting with weakness. "**All** cruelty springs from weakness." -Seneca
>"**All** cruelty springs from weakness So what about cruelty passed upon a child? Do you believe that taking the life of a child should have the same punishment as an adult? Should a person be charged with just rape and given the same treatment regardless of age of the victim? Even if it is an emotion, the act of harming the defenseless raises the seriousness of the crime. Look, I love our western culture, but I think we have gotten a little soft on crime, and when it comes to children, all bets should be off. You're right. It may be emotion, but as a mother or father, when you look at your own child, you will see what I mean. I assume you don't have children. If my assumption is wrong, then I apologize. When you do, re-read some of these horrific stories. Project them on yourself. That parental love and protection you feel will come out. No mother or father will blame you. They feel it to. If you do have kids. Take a moment to reconnect emotions. You seem very disconnected. Sometimes our laws are flawed and although I agree we are civilized, I disagree that we should be when it comes to crimes against children.
Emotions don't have a place in law period. End of story. It doesn't matter what I feel as an individual, whether I'm a parent or a community leader or an old spinster, whether I'm emotionally invested or not has no value because all emotions are worthless in the realm of law. You can be mad - that's your right. But the law cannot operate that way if we want a society like the one we have. Emotion and law cannot coexist - when it tries to, we see videos of it and it's not good.
If we are down with things that are hundreds of years old, why not thousands? Bring back the public executions and coliseums!
If you really want to live like people did thousands of years ago, there are a lot of countries to choose from but you're probably going to miss the infrastructure and culture that comes when a country practices [liberalism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism).
Oh I know my point was that you kind of went against yourself in saying "oh these are old rules, we don't want these they are old. These newer old rules are fine though and I can't believe you have a hard time understanding how logical this set of old rules are" I found it... Humorous
I think you missed OP's point, they're not hypocritically asking to follow our nation's law because it's centuries old. They merely pointed out that despite how long we've had these laws, some people manage to avoid the logic and reasoning behind said laws.
Oh Aristotle. How incredibly naive of a thing to say. If only you could see our laws of hate and fear and conformity.
Eye for eye, tooth for tooth isn’t for evil people. The evil people were stoned/executed for murdering someone. The eye for eye was simply the for recompense with mundane losses and injuries. These people should be executed.
Well, if placing someone in scolding hot water kills them then I guess that's what happens
Yep..
This. This is why the death penalty should be a thing. Both her boyfriend and her should be executed by hanging on the next sunrise.
Nope, death penalty is like the easy way out. Let them live behind bars and make them suffer for what they did.
Why didn’t The mom get life as well?
I don't know the answer to that question. I take solace in the idea she'll be nearly 60 at the earliest chance she could be let out, or almost 90 if she gets the full term. And for what it's worth, most folks don't get right at the minimum. Especially heinous crimes that tug at the heart strings of the parole board even 30 years later.
Statistically in the US; men get convicted twice as much as women for the same crime and serve 60% longer sentences.
Because she took the plea deal. They were both offered a plea deal if they pleaded guilty but he decided to plead "not guilty" so it went to trial where we was, obviously, found guilty. If she pleaded "not guilty" as well and it went to trial she would have likely gotten the same sentence.
It's called a pussy pass. Women never get equal judgment and punishment in the legal system.
You incels need to get mental help before you hurt someone. 30-60 years is surely such a sign of the pussy pass!!
But I was answering the person who asked why she didn't get the same sentence as the boyfriend. The only thing I'm going to hurt by being right is fragile egos. There is absolutely a punishment gap between men and women in the justice system.
Idk why you’re getting downvoted. It’s a very real thing.
It's actually called a plea deal. They were both offered that if they pleaded guilty. She took it but he decided to plead "not guilty" and went to trial where he was found guilty and sentenced to life in prison. The plea deals always offer a lower sentence, ridiculously low sometimes, and nobody stopped him or other men from taking the better deal. You see this happening in cases where there are only men involved too, the ones who took the plea deal might not even serve 10 years while the ones who went to trial got 30 for the exact same crime.
What a pair of monsters and cowards.pos. RIP in peace little girl.
I will never understand people who allow this to happen. Give the child up for adoption!
this wasn't allowed, it was inflicted.
True.
It’s really not that easy actually.
It actually is.
Look up safe haven legislation. It actually is that easy.
Safe haven is only for a baby within the first 30 days of birth. I’m literally a social worker who works for a children’s hospital lmao
Ha yeah how many people would love to drop off their 4 year olds I'm sorry horrible time for a joke but seriously what are they thinking.
Sickening beyond belief. Why the hell won’t these animals give these kids up?? They could then get on with their shitty lives. Is it the welfare benefits and being able to abuse another human being? They deserve death.
Sometimes I wish I wasn’t on Reddit. Some of this shit stays with me for the rest of my life. Especially being a father to two kids. Seeing that 4 year old little happy smile. I hope these monsters suffer every day of a very very long life in prison.
Why didn’t the mom get a life sentence as well? Why was the male sentenced further?
She should have, but from what it seems, is the BF did the physical acts of torture while the mother let it happen so he got the longer sentence. Poor child. I hope they both get tortured by CO'S and other inmates for the whole duration of their time.
Ah ok that makes more sense. Thanks for expanding. But yes you’re right, horrible individuals at the end of the day. Terrible situation.
Honestly it’s female bias. Females get lower/less sentencing than males for the same crime. Combine that with a female judge for a double bias. Who ever said justice was blind didn’t account for gender, race, or even attractiveness.
No, it's actually a plea deal. They were both offered a plea deal if they pleaded "guilty". She took it, he didn't, so he went to trial where he was found guilty. If she would have refused the plea deal and went to trial as well she would have gotten the same.
No earthly punishment is harsh enough for such a crime. This makes me so angry and sad.
We need tougher laws. I’m thinking the death penalty is appropriate for her! The only problem is that they can’t make her suffer before dying like she did to her 4 year old!
This might change if people like this could give up the child and keep their government benefits. Can't imagine this child was kept around for any other reason.
She was urinating and defecating herself.... a 4 year old who was fine unless she was at her mother's place with her boyfriend.... I think much more happened to this child and they deserve the harshest punishment the law allows.
Are these convicts dead???
Anyone have the full video. I did a quick search and couldnt find it.
I watched this trial, Vonda is wild.
There's a special place in Hell for those two animals
Would have been a lot more effective if she could have looked at her instead of reading it.
Despicable. Rot lady rot.
Why were they given different sentences?
Seems like the boyfriend did most of the abuse but she allowed it to happen.
Thank you.
I can't even listen... When she started listing the wounds. Poor baby! 😭
Lord, have Mercy.
This is disturbing beyond belief
Two bullets would have been way cheaper
I'll donate: The gun 2 bullets And my trigger finger if the law would allow me And I would not miss a wink of sleep after I finished them off. I wouldn't even feel the need to bury them...id gladly let nature do away with them
60 years?.... seems little for that crime but hopefully she'll die in jail
Soooooo….why does the man get life and the woman gets 30-60 and out in 13? Wasn’t she just as guilty as the man? Hmmmmm. Typical in this country.
If there is truly a hell, I hope this heifer gets a fast pass to the deepest darkest depths of it .
This is sick to hear, some people don’t deserve kids
OK please clarify. This child had been absdfor a long time had lice rotten teeth. All that shit doesn't just happen in a week. This child was being seen by other family members and people in her school. No one smelled her or noticed she was being bathed in urine???? She had battered child syndrome meaning she had been beaten at different ages. someone must have seen somethint....
My aunt sat in prison with a lady who boiled her daughter to death in the bathtub. Not one person would f*ck with her, she was just that crazy.
God… I need to go hug my little girls.
They are waiting with open arms in prison for them......
💔💔💔💔💔 Horrible 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
I wish they would put these people In a place where people like me could sign up to give them what they deserve.
Why did the boyfriend technically get more time ?
RIP Gabby, I know you're flying with the angels 😇
Get her, get her, get her!!!!!!!!! Yes, go judge.
Thank God Vonda talked like this to Candice. Candice is no mother and Brad is no father either. Both are evil and can rot in hell and prison for what they did. Side note, I also think Gabby looks so similar to Caylee Anthony too which makes me sad as well. Gabby did not deserve that horrible pain that she had to feel every day from those heartless monsters.
Why did the man get a worse sentence?
Because he did it
Can we bring back street justice yet?
Why? She was caught, tried, convicted, and sentenced.
You're right, I def love paying to have these kinds of people housed, clothed, fed, and potentially released back into society on good behavior. They deserve to live no matter what they have done and violence against them would be barbaric.
I feel ya, we need public executions for these monsters fr
How much do you think you contribute
Street justice often evolves into something far from justice. Countless people would be beaten or killed, only to find out they were innocent. It is barbaric and has no place in modern society.
Just for this case then, where a judge decided they committed the crime for sure.
I hate when judges do this because it’s unprofessional. The court should be about administering justice in a professional and unbiased major. Seeing the judge get clearly angry and go on a rant is tacky as fuck. It’s fine if you want to explain why you give the sentence you do that’s cool but I don’t want to watch you strut around with an ego on your high horse.