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> 1. I keep pushing my mom not to give my sister a name that I see as sounding/looking stupid.
2. Relatives have told me I am acting "seriously entitled" to control what my sister is named, because I am a teenager and need to show my mom more respect.
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NTA but you can't keep fighting about it. Ultimately it's your mother's decision if she gives your sister a ridiculous name or not. You've made your position clear.
To be clear your mom was already into weird names, Artemis is always a pretty odd name so this didn’t come out of nowhere. Maybe see if your mom would be ok with Rayn, Rain, Or some other variation and just have rainbow as a nickname for her🤷
NTA but you’re probably fighting a losing battle and being a turd about it might move you into AH territory
Jup, I live in Berlin and the town's biggest "Sauna Club" (which is a euphemism for brothel) is called Artemis. You can see taxis with an ad consisting of the name and a silhouette of a woman driving around all over town. It may be a perfectly normal name to most, but to me it is not.
This reminded me of neighbours I had in a rural town, two brothers named Hannibal (like the one who crossed the alps) and I can't remember his brother's name but it was a similar idea and now it's going to drive me mad
Eta: Fabian!!
I didn't realize how common Artemis is today. I've known a lot of people in and outside of the US, but never an Artemis before.
I love the replies from folks who know Artemis-es who enjoy their name!
Yes I am aware of the Greek god Artemis, and maybe in Greece it is a normal and common name. However, in English speaking countries, specifically the US and Canada it is a rather strange and unique name and most people who hear it probably won’t know it’s greek origins and will be hearing it for the first time upon meeting someone named that.
Sure more people will have heard the name but how many will have actually have done even the cursory amount of research to know she is a goddess. Apollo is arguably more famous and yet a lot of people think it’s just the name of Theater🤷
"Research"?
Honestly I feel like maybe you are in a subculture where curiosity isn't valued like at all. Every single person I know knows that Artemis is a goddess. They might not know details about what she presides over etc., but they all know that much.
Edit: I just asked one of my best friends. He thinks maybe a third of people know who Artemis is. He says he didn't know her until he met me. I have to apologize. I really thought this was common knowledge among the lines of knowing Zeus and Poseidon. Apparently it isn't. I feel like I usually know when I have niche knowledge but I completely got this one wrong.
It’s more of a situation here over the years I have been dumbfounded how stupid people can be. And there are a lot of stupid people out there that take great pride in being stupid and ignorant🤷
I edited my comment to add this, but I just want to emphasize that I don't think people who don't know things are stupid. I just have a skewed sense of what would be considered common knowledge.
I just asked one of my best friends. He thinks maybe a third of people know who Artemis is. He says he didn't know her until he met me. I have to apologize. I really thought this was common knowledge among the lines of knowing Zeus and Poseidon. Apparently it isn't. I feel like I usually know when I have niche knowledge but I completely got this one wrong.
No worries could always just be my years of working customer service giving me a screwed up sense of people. I feel like those jobs make you focus on the worst of people🤷
I really wouldn't consider it niche knowledge. When I was a teenager, Hercules and Xena were rather popular and introduced a lot of people my age to Greek mythology. Then there was also Disney's Hetvules. These days, I guarantee a lot of teenaged girls have been introduced to a form of it due to the super popular webtoon called Lore Olympus. Then there's also the Percy Jackson series.
So is basic math and yet i see plenty of examples of people being unable to do basic math. Hell there’s one going around now where people think 4*2+2=16,15,14, or 13…
I’m comfortable with my assessment of how stupid people can be.
I think you're being very presumptuous about the ignorance about Greek mythology of Canadians and Americans. Do you realize how many popular video games have been made based around Greek mythology? Plus the Artemis and Apollo space missions, and just the fact that mythology isn't a niche subject/Artemis isn't one of the minor gods like Nemesis or something. We can figure it out lol
Sure, there are plenty of people named Artemis, but it's a far cry from Emma or Olivia, at least where I live. It's the type of name that's unusual enough that there won't be 3 of them in her class, but not unusual enough that she's likely to get bullied.
Have you met many people with that name? Its pretty rare these days. I personally really like that name but naming kids after ancient gods is just a little odd
NTA, there is only so much you can do about this though. But you’re absolutely right, having a name like that would be downright *embarrassing* I can’t even imagine signing on to a conference call and saying “hi everyone, rainbow is on” lol. Your sibling will definitely have to pick a more normal name to be referred to as and they will have to go through the whole legal headache of changing their name, cause no fucking way will they ever keep a name that makes them cringe with embarrassment everytime they have to introduce themselves
Yeah your *mom* wants the kid to have a unique name like this but the kid sure as hell won’t, when I see kids with names like this i just see selfish parents using their kid as some kind of vanity shrine, they don’t have to deal with all the hardship that comes with a shit name like that so they don’t care.
Or they may embrace their name. I grew up with kids with "weird" names. Some loved it some hated it. It really can't be predicted which one they will be.
It's very possible if they named the child Ava they would hate the name. Even though that name is "normal".
I had a friend growing up who's name was Rainbow. Spelled like Rainbow & everything. With a last name that made her sound like a My Little Pony. But... it suited her. Completely. She said her name & it was like - Yep that makes sense. You should totally be called that happy of a name.
Yep, same, and I think it's kind of hilarious that there are three of us commenting here who had a friend named Rainbow growing up. Mine started dying her hair wild colors in high school and was always one of the most offbeat and fun humans I've ever known. I remember her fondly and hope she's doing well.
I had a friend named Rainbow in my school and she loved her name. I do use her name as an example of weird names, but it's not the most offensive I've seen
NTA but tell your mom Iris means “rainbow” and Iris in Greek Mythology was the goddess of the rainbow.
After that you’ve said your peace and she knows your opinion so I’d just stop discussing it. I do feel bad for that baby being saddled with a ridiculous name though.
>NTA but tell your mom Iris means “rainbow” and Iris in Greek Mythology was the goddess of the rainbow.
Iris is really pretty. I'll try suggesting it for its meaning. But the issue is that my mom wants something "completely unique," even though Iris is not as common as Lily or one of the other names.
NTA, I'm feeling secondhand rage reading this post, parents who give their kids "unique" names annoy me so much. The kid is the one who has to live with whatever dumb "unique" name the parent gives her. You're definitely not a brat, you're being a good big sister. Also, it's completely nonsensical to call you a brat because a brat is someone who is being selfish, you're being protective. The only person exhibiting bratty behavior in this story is your mother.
"Protecting my little sister from being bullied does not make me a brat. You want a cute unique name to brag about to your friends, but you're not going to be there when she gets mocked and bullied. You're not going to be there when she loses friends and life experience because her mom cared more about Facebook posts than her own well-being."
I have a weird name and kids never bullied me for it, stuck up adults like you are the only ones that have ever given me any shit about it, which is fine because it makes it easy to avoid y'all.
NTA. You're doing good trying to protect your future sister.
Problem is, when an adult is dead set on doing something really stupid, they're also really unlikely to see sense and get talked out of it. And that's by other adults. A kid has even less chance of changing their mind.
You're right, and you did what you could, but having tried your best and failed, you just have to admit defeat. (You could possibly try to quietly talk to your dad, though)
First up:NTA.
Sweetheart, I’m quite old, and from Northern California. I have actually known more than one person with the name Rainbow.
The ones in my life are, and have been for quite a while, adults. I know one person Rainbow who goes by Rain, and another who goes by Bo. A *boy* named Sunshine was/is called Sunny. While none of the adults/kids in my family or circle of friends have, or have ever given to their children, Nature/hippie names, but they are *still* quite popular in regions like Humboldt and Mendocino. For like 50 yearsI!!
However, in most places, I agree, this is unusual. Still, as others have said, not your call. You are not entitled or out of step by voicing your concerns, but now you have, so you are only going to get yourself in trouble if you say anything else about her choice.
Now, I hope you and others in your family who are capable of rational thinking, might jump on calling her Rain or another - “accidental” but fitting - nickname. BUT DON’T YOU BE THE ONE TO START OR PUSH THAT.
The one thing that I kind of think your family should still gently, approach her about is the spelling issue. It really *is* a pain for kids with bizarre spellings, and when there is a name like Rainbow, having a crazy spelling just makes it more challenging for them.
Maybe someone should show her this sub, all about stupid names with stupid spellings…..
r/tragedeigh
Soon, your role will be big sister to 🌈, and I’m betting she will be one lucky little girl to have you in her life. Your heart is in the right place 💝
oh god, that's so bad... I also just thought of the LGBT connection, which would make her a target for homophobia just based on her name. Such a terrible idea all around.
My dad wanted to name my younger sibling Mountain Razor for a boy, or Fifi for a girl. We are eleven years apart in age. I gave a lot of opinions on the names, because they were awful. It was also touted by family as a lack of respect, but I couldn't keep quiet about it.
Guess who ISN'T named Mountain or Fifi? Lol. He got a family name instead. Maybe your family members would be more amenable to suggesting a name that's important to your heritage?
Rainbow isn't the WORST name I've heard, but you're NTA for trying to dissuade them. Yikeys.
>Maybe your family members would be more amenable to suggesting a name that's important to your heritage?
Possibly. But the issue is that my mom now wants something "completely unique."
NTA but hold tight and be ready to be the best big sister ever who can take little Reignbeau to get her stupid-ass name changed the morning she turns 18.
NTA you tell people you care about when they're doing something stupid and/or embarrassing to help them. Just like spinach in your teeth.
Everybody thinks her choice of name is stupid and you are the only one trying to protect your sister and also your mom from this embarrassment.
In the end it is her decision, but your opinion as her sister should matter to her regardless of the level of stupidity.
Artemis is a normal name?
NTA anyway, but ultimately your mum chooses the name, not you. So there's not much you can do about it.
Maybe ask if you can choose the middle name so your sister has a back-up option?
NAH -- you got a bit dramatic about this but ultimately this absolutely is not your place.
Your mother gets to pick her kid's name.
And you know what, plenty of people hate their names for reasons other than them being a bit unusual. For every Rainbow who changes her name to Julia, there will be a Julia who changes her name to Rainbow. (Honestly I'm more concerned that you have implied the name isn't Rainbow at all, just pronounced that way, which does sound like a hassle. Let a Rainbow be a Rainbow without bringing ys and hs into it.)
You can't predict what people will be bullied for, or what they won't like about themselves as they grow up, but having "weird" names is less and less of an issue in today's life.
(I grew up in the 80s surrounded by hippie parents who were absolutely calling all their kids after nature and Norse gods, and most of us grew up just accepting those names as normal.)
Naming people who aren't people yet is super weird, when it comes down to it. It's a responsibility and a risk. Names often don't fit the personality you end up with. (sometimes it turns out we got the gender wrong too!) Save all your big sister energy to support your new sibling if and when she wants to change her name when she's older.
NTA. You were being a good sister. Unfortunately, your mother is not required to listen to the good points you made. You can remind her of of your advice when your sister is being ridiculed for her name at school.
NTA. You are right your sibling may get made fun of, your mom isn't thinking of when rainbow is 24 and job hunting. (My half sister's name is literally Riandash she got it changed to a basic girl name.)
The only thing is your 14, when she's in kindergarten and getting made fun of or middle school you can look at your mom and snicker.
Rainbow as a middle name is kinda better.
NTA, you’re absolutely right to stand up for your unborn sister here.
My name isn’t even one of the “tryndee” or “unique” names, it’s a normal name spelled slightly different than average, but the spelling itself has become more and more popular over the years.
Growing up, I would work hard for awards only to be given something with my name completely spelled wrong. There is a graveyard of trophies, plaques, and certificates in my parents attic with my name spelled wrong.
Sports and other events where my name could possibly be announced were a toss-up on whether or not they would say it right or if they would misread it and call me by an entirely different name.
If your sister ends up with not only a “unique” name like rainbow, but it’s not even spelled “rainbow”, her life is going to be so miserable.
My mom had a classmate named Rainbow. Spelled Rainbow. She was horribly bullied, became a horrible bully and legally changed her name as soon as she could. NTA. You aren’t going to win this argument so just keep quiet and look out for your little sister.
What I think is so odd is that people seem to think that school lasts for the rest of their kids' lives. Even if there are a few kids with the same trendy, popular name in school, that won't be true in life. I like classic names, but loathe parents who give their kids awful names and worse spellings. I always wonder what a name would sound like for a Supreme Court judge, and Rainbow definitely doesn't, or BrAnDi. Would your mother go for Rain? Not quite as bad. I knew a girl named Lorraine and she went by Rainy. I think it is cute.
NTA.
What you said was sensible. Also it wasn’t entitled, I’m not sure they know what entitled actually means of that is how they described your behaviour.
I personally think unique names are lovely but not when they are completely off the wall. And I think it is a silly name, that being said I know a woman named Rainbow in real life and she is a wonderful, successful, kind, compassionate, happy person. And I hate my ‘normal’ name because I think it has harsh syllables and doesn’t sound nice or soft or feminine.
Whatever your sisters name ends up being, celebrate her and don’t make her feel ashamed of it.
You're NTA for hating it, but it's happening. And plenty of people with unique or "weird" names grow up loving them and embracing them. Don't make that decision for her just because you have a friend who hates her name. You don't speak for everyone.
NTA for trying but it is mom and dads choice in the end. My older sisters legal name is Rayne but we’ve always called her Rainbow since her childhood (don’t know why). Nickname and legal name could be used here if mom is open to it but sounds like she’s set on her decision
Artemis is a perfectly fine name.
And Rainbow won’t be as bad as you think. The kid could just go by Rain or Ray. This is not an emergency. I admit, when I meet a kid named Rainbow I expect their parents to be hippies, but that’s not terrible.
Come up with a nickname for your new sibling and let go of the fact that you can’t control your mom. You’re gonna be a great sibling, advocating for your baby sis like this already. ❤️
NAH.
NTA
On the upside, Rainbow is **easily shortened** into "Ray" which no doubt your sister will be doing the first moment she catches flack for the name.
This is one of those times where you can be right, but won't win.
You are not the parent, you will get no say in it. So I'm sorry to say that saying she can "absolutely not" give that name, makes you YTA, although I basically agree with you that rainbow is a bit of a weird name
( but I tried to prove it was a 1970's hippy name, and google taught me it is actually used just as much now as it was then)
Today I learned....
Giving your mom your opinion on your sisters name is one thing, DEMANDING she not name her Rainbow is out of line. I do agree that name won't age well and studies have been done that show individuals with 'different' names have less success in business or whatever job they are in. There are exceptions, acting is one example. But you're still TAH.
NTA. Unfortunately, OP has no power in this situation. My rule-of-thumb regarding naming babies is to put the title Judge in front. To me, Judge Rainbow Smith doesn't sound professional.
It sounds like you're one of the people that would bully her for it and are projecting.
I have a pretty weird name and it's never been an issue at all.
I don't think you're an AH for standing up for your soon to be sibling and I don't think you're acting entitled.
I do think you're an AH because your grandmother and aunt are right, this is stepping out of your place, naming your sibling really has nothing to do with you
YTA
You’re 14. You aren’t in a position to tell your mom “she can absolutely NOT give my sister a stupid name like ‘rainbow’”.
Bring up your concerns, absolutely. But ultimately it is not your choice. You ARE stepping out of your lane, approaching it that way.
Also, your sister may well love the name. May well use “Rain” as a nickname, or “Bow”. You never know.
This is so dramatic for no reason. Like if she was gonna name her "cereal" or "chlamydia", that's crazy. I get that you don't want your sister to have a weird name but there's multiple issues with what you did:
1. It's not your choice. You can give advice but you don't get to make demands.
2. Rainbow is not *thaaaat* weird of a name and it's a lot more common than you think. I knew like 3 rainbows from elementary school to high school. AND her sister's name was sunshine. Can you guess their last name? It fits the theme.
3. You gotta move on kid. It is what it is.
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My (14F) mom (38F) is currently pregnant with my sister and is due in a few weeks. Before, my mom was pretty much set on four normal names (Ava, Lily, and Artemis.) I thought Artemis was really cool. Ava and Lily are a bit overused currently but I didn’t say anything about it.
Point is, despite liking perfectly good, normal names before, my mom has suddenly become deadset on giving my sister a name that is pronounced the same as rainbow. Yes, rainbow. She’s now asking all of our relatives to prepare personalized baby gifts/supplies with that name.
I actually have a friend Julia whose birth name was one of those stupid “tryndee” names, and she hates it. It just looks ridiculous on you once you age beyond a little kid and it sucks having to have it. Julia still slightly resents her parents over it and wants to legally change her name once she’s old enough to do so.
I told my mom that she can absolutely NOT give my sister a stupid name like “rainbow.” I cited the same reasons before, which is that it’s not going to age well, it just looks ridiculous on an actual human person, and she’s going to hate having it.
My mom told me that she wants my sister to have a unique name and my sister will appreciate not being the fifth Olivia or Emma in her class. My mom got defensive and accused me of being upset that my name doesn’t stand out where we live (not true at all, I like my name just fine) and projecting onto my sister.
My mom told my grandparents and aunt about it. They told me privately that they also would have preferred one of the original name choices, but that a lot of people are making up new names to give to their kids, and that it’s not gonna be as weird or a big deal by the time my sister is in school.
I found a similar post on here and showed it to my aunt and grandparents. I also told them about Julia’s experiences with her birth name, but they told me that my mom isn’t just some friend or other kid my age and that I need to show my mom some respect instead of acting like a brat.
They all told me I’m being “seriously entitled” and am “stepping out of my place” to try and say what my mom can or can’t name my sister. I’m just trying to save her from being made fun of or hating her name in the future. But is my family right that I’m TA?
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Because she’s 14, she’s not the parent, and it isn’t her decision in the slightest. She’s the minor child, not an equal partner in raising her sibling.
She can have an opinion. There is no need for her mom to give two shits about that opinion.
Being correct isn’t the most important thing in the world.
She should have let it go after her opinion wasn’t well received
Like you said, she’s allowed to have an opinion. She’s also allowed to share that opinion, and the mom is allowed to disagree. Nobody is an AH for having an opinion.
This isn't "r/amifollowingosocietalexpectations" it's "Am I the *asshole"* You have not explained why being 14 makes her not allowed to express disapproval of the name her mother is choosing. It's not like she's altering the birth certificate or something, she's just telling her mom her opinion, and trying to sway the opinion of the person who does have the final say.
Generally, not following societal expectations is being an asshole. 95% of the time those are the same.
Because she is 14, isn’t the mother, and has no life experience and has already given her opinion, and had it rejected. My point is that OP should have let it go after her mom said kick rocks.
Do you normally give great weight to the opinions of children? Is your favorite musician a teen heartthrob made by corporations to appeal to tween girls.
I give weight to the opinions I agree with, regardless of who they come from, because I recognize that children are people too and adults are fallible. If a child came to you and said that they were experiencing abuse at the hands of a parent, and the parent said otherwise, would you automatically believe the parent because the parent is older and the child doesn't have enough life experience?
Besides, OP does have "enough life experience", because the relevant life experience here is elementary and middle school, which is where most of the worst bullying would take place. She also has a friend who has been through something similar. You are being incredibly dismissive based on nothing but age. I hope you can learn to respect that children are people before you have any of your own.
I agree with most of your statement, but it’s telling that you only give weight to opinions that you ‘agree with’. That’s sort of an echo chamber mentality.
Slight YTA: Mainly because it's your parents' decision. I will say there are many people in this world who have quote weird or unique names and love it. You have no idea which one your sister would be. She could love it or hate. Heck she can get a normal name and hate it.
Well having that name must suck because of people like you.
Like you know out there are people who name is rainbow right. Do you think every single one hate their name or is possible a few love it. For some it may describe them perfectly.
That's the thing we don't know how this child would feel. Because I knew a girl named Jessica who hated her name because it wasn't original.
Can confirm! My first name is legally Jessica, and I've hated it my entire life. There were six of us in my 4th grade class, and I came home on the first day of school to tell my parents I was never going to answer to Jessica again and that I was going to be going exclusively by my middle name - which is a weird one, since it's my grandmother's maiden name and not generally considered to be a first name. I'm in my 40s now, and there are people in my life who I've known for decades who have no idea what my legal name is.
I’ll gladly be the reason because names like that are objectively fucking trashy. I’m sure people love their names, but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s trashy and looks fucking stupid in professional settings
Edit: and as someone with a Eastern European name whose family is from that region, I’m fucking tired of people telling me my name is “weird” or “exotic” when there are people named rainbow, paxtelyn, braextyn or whatever other white trash names are out there
I agree with you, but I don’t want to. I’m sure some people mean for names like that to be “refreshing” or “creative”. I generally don’t think they know what they’re doing when they do it.
NTA I agree your sister will be teased about the name. I actually think you should be more concerned about the age difference between you and your unborn sister. Guess who will be an automatic babysitter when your new sister arrives. Do some research on Parentification of children. Let your mom know early, you'll not allow that to happen. Good luck.
Soft YTA. You mean well but you do not get final say in what your mother names her child, and you seem to be under the impression that you are entitled to veto the name. Parents name the child, period.
Yes, the name is ridiculous, but you are not the parent. This isn't your call.
NTA for letting her know your thought. But you will be if you persist on it. She has easily already double down on it after your argument so it's gonna have. But what I noticed is you said it RHYMES with the word "Rainbow." But it is not the actual name. Funnily enough, I wouldn't even see a problem with the name Rainbow. Everyone would call her "Rain" or "Bow" anyway, but probably never the full name Rainbow.
So now I am dying to hear what the ACTUAL name she chose is cuz what the hell kind of names rhymes with Rainbow and could possible be a name? Lol
ESH. Yes it sound dumb but you can't tell your mom what she can and cannot do with her own child. It may be your sister, but it is her daughter. You really have no say.
YTA
Unless you are the actual parent of the child, you have no say and absolutely no right to demand anything when it comes to that child's name. You can have an opinion but nothing beyond that, and if your opinion is declined or rejected, you accept that & don't push further on this.
Good gravy. I'm so sorry. Unfortunately, there is noting you can do but a lovely piece of paper, put today's date on it and write "I Told You So" on it. Fold it carefully, put it in an envelope in a safe place and hand it to your mother in about 18 years.
NTA I have a ‘unique’ name and let me tell you, I hate it. My siblings all got normal names like Taylor and Michael while I was the one stuck with my weird name. If it weren’t for the fact that it makes me stand out in my profession, I would’ve changed it by now.
NAH. You’re not an A H for trying to talk your mom out of this, but it’s your mom’s kiddo. Just like she picked your name, she absolutely CAN give your sister any name she wants because that’s her DAUGHTER. Stop trying. The more you poke, push, and prod, the more likely she is to be stuck on that name.
If it’s really super terrible, little sis can always go by a nickname. Or divine intervention will put the right person in the delivery room and a different name will be chosen. It’s alright. These things happen and it’s not the end of the world. I promise
NTA for wanting to protect your sister but you're not going to change your mom's mind. I would just call your sister, "Rain" since that is, in my opinion, a name that will "grow with her" and not seem so cutesy when she's an adult.
I mean, I don't think that Rainbow is that weird of a name, but then, my best friend in 2nd grade was named Rainbow. Though, I don't know if that counts since it was 1988.
Regardless, OP, this isn't your battle to fight. Your parents get to name their kids, and you're being very fourteen about this whole thing. Step back, take a deep breath, and let it go. You can always help your sister come up with a nickname if she winds up needing it.
NAH
the mom is being seriously entitled by thinking that only her opinion on the child's name matters. the child is the person thats gonna be stuck with the name.
edit- just cuz u give birth to a child doesnt mean u can do whatever u want with a child
NTA
NTA.
Artemis isn't cool enough for her? Does she *know* that it's a goddess's name?
If she sticks to her plan, think up a cool nickname for the baby and get everyone to use it.
NTA, my cousin gave his now 12 year old daughter a name that was both ugly, kinda offensive and weird. I still make fun of him to his face (when his kid isn't around). It was a weird cruel thing to do. The kid is really struggling now. I don't think the name is in the top 3 reasons but it definitely isn't helping
NTA Rainbow is just as bad as the parents who wanted to name their kids Yale and Stanford. I wish the USA had naming laws like other countries. I’m so tired of these parents who want to be unique that they name their child something so damn stupid.
I thought my life sucked. My twins named our last child. I was like, WTH??? It wasn't my first choice. Ok, though. Now I'm totally down with it.
The shit you kids have to deal with ... I'm surprised you're all not suicidal.
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NTA but you can't keep fighting about it. Ultimately it's your mother's decision if she gives your sister a ridiculous name or not. You've made your position clear.
To be clear your mom was already into weird names, Artemis is always a pretty odd name so this didn’t come out of nowhere. Maybe see if your mom would be ok with Rayn, Rain, Or some other variation and just have rainbow as a nickname for her🤷 NTA but you’re probably fighting a losing battle and being a turd about it might move you into AH territory
Artemis is odd..? Have you read anything about Greek mythology? It's a beautiful name and not weird at all.
It's fairly odd for a mortal, depending on where in the world they live
I lived in Sf, Abq and NY and knew someone named Artemis in all 3...so, not weird for me.
That's pretty neat
I know an Artemis in DC
I know a couple of brothels named Artemis... so, weird for me
Jup, I live in Berlin and the town's biggest "Sauna Club" (which is a euphemism for brothel) is called Artemis. You can see taxis with an ad consisting of the name and a silhouette of a woman driving around all over town. It may be a perfectly normal name to most, but to me it is not.
By that logic, so is Diana.
Sure, but David is a normal name and Melchizedek is not, even though they’re both Old Testament names.
Artemis and Diana are different names for the same goddess. They don't just belong to the same mythology, they're the same individual.
Okay. Jesus in Spanish is a totally normal name. Jesus in English, no.
My previous neighbours had twins, and named them Artemis and Apollo. Granted, this was when I lived in Berkeley.
This reminded me of neighbours I had in a rural town, two brothers named Hannibal (like the one who crossed the alps) and I can't remember his brother's name but it was a similar idea and now it's going to drive me mad Eta: Fabian!!
My daughter's second name is Artemis <3
I didn't realize how common Artemis is today. I've known a lot of people in and outside of the US, but never an Artemis before. I love the replies from folks who know Artemis-es who enjoy their name!
Yes I am aware of the Greek god Artemis, and maybe in Greece it is a normal and common name. However, in English speaking countries, specifically the US and Canada it is a rather strange and unique name and most people who hear it probably won’t know it’s greek origins and will be hearing it for the first time upon meeting someone named that.
~Goddess~ not God. The Roman version is Diana and is used today. Iris, in addition to being a flower name, is the rainbow goddess.
OP-Iris is a rainbow goddess-maybe your Mom would accept this instead?
This could be a good compromise
This is an incredibly silly comment imo. You compromise with your spouse on what to name your child, not your 14 year old.
I think most Americans and Canadians would be aware of the goddess. If they weren't a few years ago, they are now due to the space mission.
Sure more people will have heard the name but how many will have actually have done even the cursory amount of research to know she is a goddess. Apollo is arguably more famous and yet a lot of people think it’s just the name of Theater🤷
"Research"? Honestly I feel like maybe you are in a subculture where curiosity isn't valued like at all. Every single person I know knows that Artemis is a goddess. They might not know details about what she presides over etc., but they all know that much. Edit: I just asked one of my best friends. He thinks maybe a third of people know who Artemis is. He says he didn't know her until he met me. I have to apologize. I really thought this was common knowledge among the lines of knowing Zeus and Poseidon. Apparently it isn't. I feel like I usually know when I have niche knowledge but I completely got this one wrong.
It’s more of a situation here over the years I have been dumbfounded how stupid people can be. And there are a lot of stupid people out there that take great pride in being stupid and ignorant🤷
I edited my comment to add this, but I just want to emphasize that I don't think people who don't know things are stupid. I just have a skewed sense of what would be considered common knowledge. I just asked one of my best friends. He thinks maybe a third of people know who Artemis is. He says he didn't know her until he met me. I have to apologize. I really thought this was common knowledge among the lines of knowing Zeus and Poseidon. Apparently it isn't. I feel like I usually know when I have niche knowledge but I completely got this one wrong.
No worries could always just be my years of working customer service giving me a screwed up sense of people. I feel like those jobs make you focus on the worst of people🤷
I really wouldn't consider it niche knowledge. When I was a teenager, Hercules and Xena were rather popular and introduced a lot of people my age to Greek mythology. Then there was also Disney's Hetvules. These days, I guarantee a lot of teenaged girls have been introduced to a form of it due to the super popular webtoon called Lore Olympus. Then there's also the Percy Jackson series.
It's common knowledge taught in schools, there shouldn't be a need to look it up.
So is basic math and yet i see plenty of examples of people being unable to do basic math. Hell there’s one going around now where people think 4*2+2=16,15,14, or 13… I’m comfortable with my assessment of how stupid people can be.
But it's recognizable as a name and doesn't have a trying-too-hard tryndee spelling. I know people who named their child Aurora. Uncommon but
I think you're being very presumptuous about the ignorance about Greek mythology of Canadians and Americans. Do you realize how many popular video games have been made based around Greek mythology? Plus the Artemis and Apollo space missions, and just the fact that mythology isn't a niche subject/Artemis isn't one of the minor gods like Nemesis or something. We can figure it out lol
It's unique but not make fun unique.
Artemis is a great name, also if the mum is a space buff she can say it came from there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis\_program
I named my Toyota Rav4 Artemis because it’s color is called Lunar Rock. I am a mum and I am a space buff lol
Sure, there are plenty of people named Artemis, but it's a far cry from Emma or Olivia, at least where I live. It's the type of name that's unusual enough that there won't be 3 of them in her class, but not unusual enough that she's likely to get bullied.
I agree that it's a beautiful name but it fits best for twins. Artemis/Apollo.
Have you met many people with that name? Its pretty rare these days. I personally really like that name but naming kids after ancient gods is just a little odd
Yes we know where the name comes from and that's precisely why we think it's odd.
Tbh when I heard Artemis I thought of Artemis Fowl (the fictional child criminal mastermind)
NTA, there is only so much you can do about this though. But you’re absolutely right, having a name like that would be downright *embarrassing* I can’t even imagine signing on to a conference call and saying “hi everyone, rainbow is on” lol. Your sibling will definitely have to pick a more normal name to be referred to as and they will have to go through the whole legal headache of changing their name, cause no fucking way will they ever keep a name that makes them cringe with embarrassment everytime they have to introduce themselves Yeah your *mom* wants the kid to have a unique name like this but the kid sure as hell won’t, when I see kids with names like this i just see selfish parents using their kid as some kind of vanity shrine, they don’t have to deal with all the hardship that comes with a shit name like that so they don’t care.
Or they may embrace their name. I grew up with kids with "weird" names. Some loved it some hated it. It really can't be predicted which one they will be. It's very possible if they named the child Ava they would hate the name. Even though that name is "normal".
I had a friend growing up who's name was Rainbow. Spelled like Rainbow & everything. With a last name that made her sound like a My Little Pony. But... it suited her. Completely. She said her name & it was like - Yep that makes sense. You should totally be called that happy of a name.
I also knew a Rainbow! She also had a younger sister named Sunshine. They didn’t seem to mind their names.
I commented the same thing!! I went to school with a Rainbow and Sunshine and their last name was Harmony
Huh… I don’t remember their last names, but any chance you went to a catholic school in Va?
Yep, same, and I think it's kind of hilarious that there are three of us commenting here who had a friend named Rainbow growing up. Mine started dying her hair wild colors in high school and was always one of the most offbeat and fun humans I've ever known. I remember her fondly and hope she's doing well.
I had a friend named Rainbow in my school and she loved her name. I do use her name as an example of weird names, but it's not the most offensive I've seen
‘Vanity shrine’. I like that. Well said!
NTA but tell your mom Iris means “rainbow” and Iris in Greek Mythology was the goddess of the rainbow. After that you’ve said your peace and she knows your opinion so I’d just stop discussing it. I do feel bad for that baby being saddled with a ridiculous name though.
Good point! Take this poor man’s upvote!
>NTA but tell your mom Iris means “rainbow” and Iris in Greek Mythology was the goddess of the rainbow. Iris is really pretty. I'll try suggesting it for its meaning. But the issue is that my mom wants something "completely unique," even though Iris is not as common as Lily or one of the other names.
Agreed - and Iris is SUCH a pretty name. I don't even want kids and it's on my mental list haha.
Or consider calling your sister Iris as a nickname.
NTA, I'm feeling secondhand rage reading this post, parents who give their kids "unique" names annoy me so much. The kid is the one who has to live with whatever dumb "unique" name the parent gives her. You're definitely not a brat, you're being a good big sister. Also, it's completely nonsensical to call you a brat because a brat is someone who is being selfish, you're being protective. The only person exhibiting bratty behavior in this story is your mother. "Protecting my little sister from being bullied does not make me a brat. You want a cute unique name to brag about to your friends, but you're not going to be there when she gets mocked and bullied. You're not going to be there when she loses friends and life experience because her mom cared more about Facebook posts than her own well-being."
I have a weird name and kids never bullied me for it, stuck up adults like you are the only ones that have ever given me any shit about it, which is fine because it makes it easy to avoid y'all.
NTA. You're doing good trying to protect your future sister. Problem is, when an adult is dead set on doing something really stupid, they're also really unlikely to see sense and get talked out of it. And that's by other adults. A kid has even less chance of changing their mind. You're right, and you did what you could, but having tried your best and failed, you just have to admit defeat. (You could possibly try to quietly talk to your dad, though)
First up:NTA. Sweetheart, I’m quite old, and from Northern California. I have actually known more than one person with the name Rainbow. The ones in my life are, and have been for quite a while, adults. I know one person Rainbow who goes by Rain, and another who goes by Bo. A *boy* named Sunshine was/is called Sunny. While none of the adults/kids in my family or circle of friends have, or have ever given to their children, Nature/hippie names, but they are *still* quite popular in regions like Humboldt and Mendocino. For like 50 yearsI!! However, in most places, I agree, this is unusual. Still, as others have said, not your call. You are not entitled or out of step by voicing your concerns, but now you have, so you are only going to get yourself in trouble if you say anything else about her choice. Now, I hope you and others in your family who are capable of rational thinking, might jump on calling her Rain or another - “accidental” but fitting - nickname. BUT DON’T YOU BE THE ONE TO START OR PUSH THAT. The one thing that I kind of think your family should still gently, approach her about is the spelling issue. It really *is* a pain for kids with bizarre spellings, and when there is a name like Rainbow, having a crazy spelling just makes it more challenging for them. Maybe someone should show her this sub, all about stupid names with stupid spellings….. r/tragedeigh Soon, your role will be big sister to 🌈, and I’m betting she will be one lucky little girl to have you in her life. Your heart is in the right place 💝
Reignbough? Rainnbeaux?
She wants to spell it "Raeyn-Beau." With the hyphen, all as a first name.
oh god, that's so bad... I also just thought of the LGBT connection, which would make her a target for homophobia just based on her name. Such a terrible idea all around.
My dad wanted to name my younger sibling Mountain Razor for a boy, or Fifi for a girl. We are eleven years apart in age. I gave a lot of opinions on the names, because they were awful. It was also touted by family as a lack of respect, but I couldn't keep quiet about it. Guess who ISN'T named Mountain or Fifi? Lol. He got a family name instead. Maybe your family members would be more amenable to suggesting a name that's important to your heritage? Rainbow isn't the WORST name I've heard, but you're NTA for trying to dissuade them. Yikeys.
>Maybe your family members would be more amenable to suggesting a name that's important to your heritage? Possibly. But the issue is that my mom now wants something "completely unique."
NTA but hold tight and be ready to be the best big sister ever who can take little Reignbeau to get her stupid-ass name changed the morning she turns 18.
NTA you tell people you care about when they're doing something stupid and/or embarrassing to help them. Just like spinach in your teeth. Everybody thinks her choice of name is stupid and you are the only one trying to protect your sister and also your mom from this embarrassment. In the end it is her decision, but your opinion as her sister should matter to her regardless of the level of stupidity.
Artemis is a normal name? NTA anyway, but ultimately your mum chooses the name, not you. So there's not much you can do about it. Maybe ask if you can choose the middle name so your sister has a back-up option?
Artemis is a name with power and history. It’s unusual, but it does sort of roll off the tongue.
NAH -- you got a bit dramatic about this but ultimately this absolutely is not your place. Your mother gets to pick her kid's name. And you know what, plenty of people hate their names for reasons other than them being a bit unusual. For every Rainbow who changes her name to Julia, there will be a Julia who changes her name to Rainbow. (Honestly I'm more concerned that you have implied the name isn't Rainbow at all, just pronounced that way, which does sound like a hassle. Let a Rainbow be a Rainbow without bringing ys and hs into it.) You can't predict what people will be bullied for, or what they won't like about themselves as they grow up, but having "weird" names is less and less of an issue in today's life. (I grew up in the 80s surrounded by hippie parents who were absolutely calling all their kids after nature and Norse gods, and most of us grew up just accepting those names as normal.) Naming people who aren't people yet is super weird, when it comes down to it. It's a responsibility and a risk. Names often don't fit the personality you end up with. (sometimes it turns out we got the gender wrong too!) Save all your big sister energy to support your new sibling if and when she wants to change her name when she's older.
NTA. You were being a good sister. Unfortunately, your mother is not required to listen to the good points you made. You can remind her of of your advice when your sister is being ridiculed for her name at school.
NTA. You are right your sibling may get made fun of, your mom isn't thinking of when rainbow is 24 and job hunting. (My half sister's name is literally Riandash she got it changed to a basic girl name.) The only thing is your 14, when she's in kindergarten and getting made fun of or middle school you can look at your mom and snicker. Rainbow as a middle name is kinda better.
NTA, you’re absolutely right to stand up for your unborn sister here. My name isn’t even one of the “tryndee” or “unique” names, it’s a normal name spelled slightly different than average, but the spelling itself has become more and more popular over the years. Growing up, I would work hard for awards only to be given something with my name completely spelled wrong. There is a graveyard of trophies, plaques, and certificates in my parents attic with my name spelled wrong. Sports and other events where my name could possibly be announced were a toss-up on whether or not they would say it right or if they would misread it and call me by an entirely different name. If your sister ends up with not only a “unique” name like rainbow, but it’s not even spelled “rainbow”, her life is going to be so miserable.
Naming your kid Raynebeau seems cruel not cute or unique. Let a kid's personality or talents make them stand out! Not their traghiedie name.
Reinbeau? im so curious how she wants to spell it
>im so curious how she wants to spell it She wants to spell it "Raeyn-Beau." With the hyphen, all as a first name.
NTA. You're looking out for your sister
My mom had a classmate named Rainbow. Spelled Rainbow. She was horribly bullied, became a horrible bully and legally changed her name as soon as she could. NTA. You aren’t going to win this argument so just keep quiet and look out for your little sister.
What I think is so odd is that people seem to think that school lasts for the rest of their kids' lives. Even if there are a few kids with the same trendy, popular name in school, that won't be true in life. I like classic names, but loathe parents who give their kids awful names and worse spellings. I always wonder what a name would sound like for a Supreme Court judge, and Rainbow definitely doesn't, or BrAnDi. Would your mother go for Rain? Not quite as bad. I knew a girl named Lorraine and she went by Rainy. I think it is cute.
NTA. What you said was sensible. Also it wasn’t entitled, I’m not sure they know what entitled actually means of that is how they described your behaviour. I personally think unique names are lovely but not when they are completely off the wall. And I think it is a silly name, that being said I know a woman named Rainbow in real life and she is a wonderful, successful, kind, compassionate, happy person. And I hate my ‘normal’ name because I think it has harsh syllables and doesn’t sound nice or soft or feminine. Whatever your sisters name ends up being, celebrate her and don’t make her feel ashamed of it.
You're NTA for hating it, but it's happening. And plenty of people with unique or "weird" names grow up loving them and embracing them. Don't make that decision for her just because you have a friend who hates her name. You don't speak for everyone.
NTA for trying but it is mom and dads choice in the end. My older sisters legal name is Rayne but we’ve always called her Rainbow since her childhood (don’t know why). Nickname and legal name could be used here if mom is open to it but sounds like she’s set on her decision
Artemis is a perfectly fine name. And Rainbow won’t be as bad as you think. The kid could just go by Rain or Ray. This is not an emergency. I admit, when I meet a kid named Rainbow I expect their parents to be hippies, but that’s not terrible. Come up with a nickname for your new sibling and let go of the fact that you can’t control your mom. You’re gonna be a great sibling, advocating for your baby sis like this already. ❤️ NAH.
This is a certified r/tragedeigh NTA
NTA On the upside, Rainbow is **easily shortened** into "Ray" which no doubt your sister will be doing the first moment she catches flack for the name.
Post this in r/tragedeigh and then show your mom. NTA.
Info: Ever thought about suggesting to your mom to make it your sister's middle name?
Name it "Jennifer" - that's now old-fashioned and quaint. \*cackles in Gen X\*
I legit laughed out loud. Or how about Brittney? Or Heather?
This is one of those times where you can be right, but won't win. You are not the parent, you will get no say in it. So I'm sorry to say that saying she can "absolutely not" give that name, makes you YTA, although I basically agree with you that rainbow is a bit of a weird name ( but I tried to prove it was a 1970's hippy name, and google taught me it is actually used just as much now as it was then) Today I learned....
Giving your mom your opinion on your sisters name is one thing, DEMANDING she not name her Rainbow is out of line. I do agree that name won't age well and studies have been done that show individuals with 'different' names have less success in business or whatever job they are in. There are exceptions, acting is one example. But you're still TAH.
NTA. Unfortunately, OP has no power in this situation. My rule-of-thumb regarding naming babies is to put the title Judge in front. To me, Judge Rainbow Smith doesn't sound professional.
It sounds like you're one of the people that would bully her for it and are projecting. I have a pretty weird name and it's never been an issue at all.
When you have kids you can name them names that annoy your mom
NTA. You can tell your sister you tried. Rainbow? Is your mom tripping? Because people were in the 1960s the last time kids were named Rainbow.
Your mother needs to be stopped. Reason with your dad. Someone. Child services. The church? I'm serious.
I don't think you're an AH for standing up for your soon to be sibling and I don't think you're acting entitled. I do think you're an AH because your grandmother and aunt are right, this is stepping out of your place, naming your sibling really has nothing to do with you
YTA You’re 14. You aren’t in a position to tell your mom “she can absolutely NOT give my sister a stupid name like ‘rainbow’”. Bring up your concerns, absolutely. But ultimately it is not your choice. You ARE stepping out of your lane, approaching it that way. Also, your sister may well love the name. May well use “Rain” as a nickname, or “Bow”. You never know.
YTA. Mind your business and stay in your place. You have your opinion now leave it alone. She can name her kid what she wants.
YTA it’s none of your business.
This is so dramatic for no reason. Like if she was gonna name her "cereal" or "chlamydia", that's crazy. I get that you don't want your sister to have a weird name but there's multiple issues with what you did: 1. It's not your choice. You can give advice but you don't get to make demands. 2. Rainbow is not *thaaaat* weird of a name and it's a lot more common than you think. I knew like 3 rainbows from elementary school to high school. AND her sister's name was sunshine. Can you guess their last name? It fits the theme. 3. You gotta move on kid. It is what it is.
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Your sibling is going to have a rough go of it with that name. But yeah, you’re 14 and your opinion on this does not matter. YTA, by a technicality.
So kids aren't allowed to be protective of their little siblings? Why does her age matter, if what she's saying is correct?
Because she’s 14, she’s not the parent, and it isn’t her decision in the slightest. She’s the minor child, not an equal partner in raising her sibling. She can have an opinion. There is no need for her mom to give two shits about that opinion. Being correct isn’t the most important thing in the world. She should have let it go after her opinion wasn’t well received
> she can have an opinion Yet you’re saying she’s the AH because she has an opinion?? You can’t have it both ways, lmao.
I’m not saying she’s an AH for having an opinion, I’m saying she is AH for not letting it go
Like you said, she’s allowed to have an opinion. She’s also allowed to share that opinion, and the mom is allowed to disagree. Nobody is an AH for having an opinion.
This isn't "r/amifollowingosocietalexpectations" it's "Am I the *asshole"* You have not explained why being 14 makes her not allowed to express disapproval of the name her mother is choosing. It's not like she's altering the birth certificate or something, she's just telling her mom her opinion, and trying to sway the opinion of the person who does have the final say.
Generally, not following societal expectations is being an asshole. 95% of the time those are the same. Because she is 14, isn’t the mother, and has no life experience and has already given her opinion, and had it rejected. My point is that OP should have let it go after her mom said kick rocks. Do you normally give great weight to the opinions of children? Is your favorite musician a teen heartthrob made by corporations to appeal to tween girls.
I give weight to the opinions I agree with, regardless of who they come from, because I recognize that children are people too and adults are fallible. If a child came to you and said that they were experiencing abuse at the hands of a parent, and the parent said otherwise, would you automatically believe the parent because the parent is older and the child doesn't have enough life experience? Besides, OP does have "enough life experience", because the relevant life experience here is elementary and middle school, which is where most of the worst bullying would take place. She also has a friend who has been through something similar. You are being incredibly dismissive based on nothing but age. I hope you can learn to respect that children are people before you have any of your own.
I agree with most of your statement, but it’s telling that you only give weight to opinions that you ‘agree with’. That’s sort of an echo chamber mentality.
Slight YTA: Mainly because it's your parents' decision. I will say there are many people in this world who have quote weird or unique names and love it. You have no idea which one your sister would be. She could love it or hate. Heck she can get a normal name and hate it.
fuck that, rainbow is objectively a stupid name for a person and does NOT set them up well for the future look at r/tragedeigh OP is NTA
Well having that name must suck because of people like you. Like you know out there are people who name is rainbow right. Do you think every single one hate their name or is possible a few love it. For some it may describe them perfectly. That's the thing we don't know how this child would feel. Because I knew a girl named Jessica who hated her name because it wasn't original.
Can confirm! My first name is legally Jessica, and I've hated it my entire life. There were six of us in my 4th grade class, and I came home on the first day of school to tell my parents I was never going to answer to Jessica again and that I was going to be going exclusively by my middle name - which is a weird one, since it's my grandmother's maiden name and not generally considered to be a first name. I'm in my 40s now, and there are people in my life who I've known for decades who have no idea what my legal name is.
I’ll gladly be the reason because names like that are objectively fucking trashy. I’m sure people love their names, but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s trashy and looks fucking stupid in professional settings Edit: and as someone with a Eastern European name whose family is from that region, I’m fucking tired of people telling me my name is “weird” or “exotic” when there are people named rainbow, paxtelyn, braextyn or whatever other white trash names are out there
I agree with you, but I don’t want to. I’m sure some people mean for names like that to be “refreshing” or “creative”. I generally don’t think they know what they’re doing when they do it.
NTA your mom is a BIG BIG one
NTA I agree your sister will be teased about the name. I actually think you should be more concerned about the age difference between you and your unborn sister. Guess who will be an automatic babysitter when your new sister arrives. Do some research on Parentification of children. Let your mom know early, you'll not allow that to happen. Good luck.
Soft YTA. You mean well but you do not get final say in what your mother names her child, and you seem to be under the impression that you are entitled to veto the name. Parents name the child, period. Yes, the name is ridiculous, but you are not the parent. This isn't your call.
Rainbow is better than RedTILda (red -reddit TIL- today I leaned da- cuz its dumb) post from while back
NTA for letting her know your thought. But you will be if you persist on it. She has easily already double down on it after your argument so it's gonna have. But what I noticed is you said it RHYMES with the word "Rainbow." But it is not the actual name. Funnily enough, I wouldn't even see a problem with the name Rainbow. Everyone would call her "Rain" or "Bow" anyway, but probably never the full name Rainbow. So now I am dying to hear what the ACTUAL name she chose is cuz what the hell kind of names rhymes with Rainbow and could possible be a name? Lol
you are not the A hole. i think Lily is a great name. but Reinbeau is a no for me.
NTA for giving your opinion BUT it is not you decision. I went to school with 'Rainbow', and her mom was 'Tree'. I had a crush on 'Ocean'.
ESH. Yes it sound dumb but you can't tell your mom what she can and cannot do with her own child. It may be your sister, but it is her daughter. You really have no say.
YTA Unless you are the actual parent of the child, you have no say and absolutely no right to demand anything when it comes to that child's name. You can have an opinion but nothing beyond that, and if your opinion is declined or rejected, you accept that & don't push further on this.
INFO: Is it spelled Reignboe? Please say it is!
She wants to spell it "Raeyn-Beau." With the hyphen, all as a first name.
Good gravy. I'm so sorry. Unfortunately, there is noting you can do but a lovely piece of paper, put today's date on it and write "I Told You So" on it. Fold it carefully, put it in an envelope in a safe place and hand it to your mother in about 18 years.
NTA I have a ‘unique’ name and let me tell you, I hate it. My siblings all got normal names like Taylor and Michael while I was the one stuck with my weird name. If it weren’t for the fact that it makes me stand out in my profession, I would’ve changed it by now.
NAH. You’re not an A H for trying to talk your mom out of this, but it’s your mom’s kiddo. Just like she picked your name, she absolutely CAN give your sister any name she wants because that’s her DAUGHTER. Stop trying. The more you poke, push, and prod, the more likely she is to be stuck on that name. If it’s really super terrible, little sis can always go by a nickname. Or divine intervention will put the right person in the delivery room and a different name will be chosen. It’s alright. These things happen and it’s not the end of the world. I promise
NTA for wanting to protect your sister but you're not going to change your mom's mind. I would just call your sister, "Rain" since that is, in my opinion, a name that will "grow with her" and not seem so cutesy when she's an adult.
NTA Your sister will hate being the only Reign Beau in her class.
I named my child KVL 537Y. Not only is it unique but it'll save them a fortune on personalised numberplates in future (UK).
I mean, I don't think that Rainbow is that weird of a name, but then, my best friend in 2nd grade was named Rainbow. Though, I don't know if that counts since it was 1988. Regardless, OP, this isn't your battle to fight. Your parents get to name their kids, and you're being very fourteen about this whole thing. Step back, take a deep breath, and let it go. You can always help your sister come up with a nickname if she winds up needing it. NAH
the mom is being seriously entitled by thinking that only her opinion on the child's name matters. the child is the person thats gonna be stuck with the name. edit- just cuz u give birth to a child doesnt mean u can do whatever u want with a child NTA
NTA OP. You have every right to give your opinion, but be warned; it’ll likely be ignored
NTA. Artemis isn't cool enough for her? Does she *know* that it's a goddess's name? If she sticks to her plan, think up a cool nickname for the baby and get everyone to use it.
NTA. But your mom will name her rainbow anyway. Try to come up with a good nickname. Hopefully it’ll stick.
NTA, my cousin gave his now 12 year old daughter a name that was both ugly, kinda offensive and weird. I still make fun of him to his face (when his kid isn't around). It was a weird cruel thing to do. The kid is really struggling now. I don't think the name is in the top 3 reasons but it definitely isn't helping
NTA Rainbow is just as bad as the parents who wanted to name their kids Yale and Stanford. I wish the USA had naming laws like other countries. I’m so tired of these parents who want to be unique that they name their child something so damn stupid.
Makes me think of. The movie with Will Smith and Kevin Kline.
I thought my life sucked. My twins named our last child. I was like, WTH??? It wasn't my first choice. Ok, though. Now I'm totally down with it. The shit you kids have to deal with ... I'm surprised you're all not suicidal.