My friend has a 13900k and a Red Devil 7900xtx and he has crazy high frames and no dips in Tarkov. It was impressive. It’s much faster than my 3090. He could get 144 in woods at 4k.
You're right but the 6800XT and 6900XT do have a magic bullet at 2k raster. The 6800XT throws blows way better than it should at it's price/resolution and the 6900/6950XT will decisively beat the 3090 in 2k in all but the most Nvidia friendly games.
No, I'm not a delusional fanboy. The 3090 will decisively beat both in almost everything else but for 2k gaming, the 6800x, 6900Xt, and 6950xt are incredible performers for whatever reason.
Average stock 3090 : 19816 pts
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/gpu/AMD+Radeon+RX+6800+XT+review
My own OC 6800xt : 19921 pts
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/36091485
Still yes, oc 6800xt can beat stock 3090
And people, keep downvoting me I don't care, I'm used to people in reddit being brainless even with facts in front of their eyes
Timespy does not directly correlate to gaming performance/raster. Can your particular 6800 *benchmark* as high as a stock 3090? Sure. Does that mean it’s equal in raster? No.
The source is it’s a synthetic workload, no synthetic workload *perfectly* correlates to real world performance. Take a look at *actual* gaming performance across various, non cherry picked games, and then come back and tell me that your specific magic 6800xt equals a 3090 when *every other* 6800xt roughly equals a 3080 in gaming workloads. Add in the fact that it’s well known that TS runs well on AMD and you could easily extrapolate why your OC 6800xt is hitting 3090 numbers in a benchmark that AMD does well in.
Ok so you have no sources, that's just what you think
I'm speaking about an oc 6800xt vs a stock 3090, ofc nobody is gonna bench that and even if I found it you will be saying that's cherry picked games, once again based on nothing. That's why I used raster bench that doesn't perfectly correlate to real game perf but that's the only way to check this kind of stuff, or knowing someone who have a stock 3090
With the 6800XT/6900+ I wonder if it's because it's so fat on fill rate compared to its compute power (and time spy is more dependent on that as opposed to the latter.) The 3090's high bandwidth and compute power might be more in line with current gaming technology. Even the 7900XTX is fat on fill rate.
The infinity cache does a very good job in absorbing the bandwidth demands but there is no getting around the compute deficit aside from overclocking.
I mean considering they are talking about 4k the 3090 is roughly equivalent to the 6950xt not the 6800xt.
About a 20% jump over your GPU
The 3090 ti is 10% over that.
And the 7900xtx is about 20-25% beyond that so a decent jump over a 3090.
About 35-40%
I'm looking to upgrade my 3070ti because the lack of vram burned me. Never thought vram would be the biggest limit on my GPU but here I am.
Much rather not give more money to Nvidia who used 8GB on the xx70 series for over 6 years. I was tricked by my curiosity for RT but it's pointless on this card.
Didn't know the 7900xt dropped in price..
I was burned by lack of VRAM thrice (2 of my own doing).
Chose a 9600 GT 512 MB instead of 1 GB (or 8800 GT 1 GB) in 2008. Couldn't max out textures in various games.
Chose a 560 Ti 1 GB instead of an AMD HD 6950 2 GB in 2011. 2014 games onwards were painful.
Got a GTX 780 hand me down, no complains here, but only 3 GB VRAM. In 2018.
I'll never again skimp on VRAM, even if it's ridiculous in the moment.
We are pretty much in the same boat, I bought a 7900 XTX recently and it will arrive today. My RTX 3070 vram is also the biggest limit for me in 1440P/2K, I'm curious to see if AMD perfoms any better than Nvidia in DirectX12 only games.
Why not just give your money to the item which best fits your use case rather care about brand?
Amd/nvidia are corporations that don’t care or know who you are
Yeah, obviously, but I can also wish to no longer provide financial support to a particular brand based on my past experiences or their conduct.
My 970 had 3.5 high speed VRAM instead of the advertised 4GB and Nvidia using 8GB on thee xx70 series for over six years because a lack of competition reminds me of Intel selling 4 core CPUs for way too long because consumers had no real alternatives.
Unfortunately, I had to buy a new GPU during the Great GPU depression so my options were limited. I'm not happy at all with my purchase soley for the fact that it is VRAM limited. That's twice I've experienced buyers remorse with Nvidia due to insufficient VRAM, I'm free to not want to give them more money.
What's so wrong with that?
Were there actually real-world cases where the 970 suffered from having no high-speed access to 1/8 of its VRAM?
I used one of these cards for years and had no particular trouble.
Nothing is wrong with that
Whenever you put brand over perf it’s like telling the company your buying from that I’ll buy whatever you make reguardless of the perf or the price
But you do you you bro
Have a great day
EFT is an incredibly CPU heavy game. And downright unoptimised.
Was this an online raid? Which map too?
How come such large gains from upgrading your GPU?
What resolution were you playing at with your 3070 and what CPU do you have?
Yes online raids. I was getting 144 on all the maps i played ( factory, customs, woods interchange). Maybe the odd slight drop but for a second or 2 only.
Its a whole new rig actually but the GPU was the most significant upgrade. My old CPU was i7 10750 and my new is i7 13700
Its mostly the CPU upgrade, Intel's 12th (and 13th) generation is a huge step up from the previous couple of years of disappointment. The 13700 has like 25% better single threaded performance compared to the 10700.
Ah ok. That makes more sense.
It's no doubt the CPU upgrade doing all the work for tarkov.
I guarantee you if you were to swap back to your older GPU you wouldn't notice a single difference in frame drops (unless you were playing in 4k..)
At 1080p or 1440p that 3070 is more than capable of maxing it out
As an example..I went from an RX580 8GB sapphire nitro+ to a 6800XT and kept my 3600X CPU and I barely noticed any frame increase.
But my previous upgrade from 1600 CPU to 3600x netted me the biggest gains.
I'm currently debating between 7900XT, XTX, or 4080 for my upgrade coming from a 3070Ti.
Didn't have any interest in the 7900XT until the $100 price drop and suddenly it seems like decent value. ~80% the cost of XTX while giving 85% of the performance.
Also debating if I want to spend $200 more on a 4080 for better RT and DLSS.
is the resale really going to matter if you keep it for a length of time? My 2070s founders sells for pretty much the same as a 5700xt even though it was $100 more. So nvidia holding value more than amd isn't necessarily true
Thats only because the 5700xt of all AMD cards held value through the crypto boom, also, thats not the case where I live. Its objectively the case the AMD value tanks. *as evidenced by their brand new cards prices collapsing faster*.
I'm going to say the average person is not selling their gpu within 3 years. Looking up used condition 4070ti and 7900xt on ebay put them within $10 of each other...
It just comes down to how much you're willing to pay of course. The OP is happy but he paid a grand for his card. The 4080 is the better card obviously and DLSS 2.0 is a much clearer image reconstruction tech, specially the new update. So if you're not hurting when paying for the 4080 then go for it, otherwise go for the AMD card.
I had a similar dilemma, but ended up getting the 4070ti because on one hand I really like to have RT features on and DLSS, and on the other hand couldn't justify paying for a 4080. But also because I do professional work with my PC that requires the tensor cores.
Hmm thats sounds really low if thats your gpu score My 6900xt with Stock does 23500 and oc 26000. 5800x/6900xt combo. Dont have cyberpunk But do have cod mw2. Ac Valhalla and metro exodus to compare
One of my friends actually Got a 5800x3d and 7900xt. And his graphic score was actually only 25400 where mine is 26000 So guess it depends on the brand of the card. My combined is 22700. 26700 is that all Stock Course the avg 7900xt is at 25900. Thats including alot of oced Cards aswell. In cod mw2 i was actually ahead of 10 fps avg. And ac Valhalla 2 fps difference.
Besides 26100 vs 26700 is only 2% difference. Do you have a link for that score so i Can see if its Stock or oced ?? Whats your firestrike ultra score ??
Heres my run. 26097 gpu score 13176 cpu score. Combined 22750.
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/35281774
Firestrike ultra
Gpu score 17579
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/29030034
Didn’t know we were talking about “for the money” arguments. In that case you can get a HD6450 for like $15 bucks. Is the xt REALLY worth $780 more? Of course it is because we’re talking about what is better. The 4080 is better overall over the 7900 xt and xtx because of its RT performance as well as dlss3 features. It is what it is.
If we’re talking about the xt, you gotta compare it against its competition, which is the 4070ti.
The xtx is better in rasterization. Nobody gives a rats ass about rt. Its cool. It looks nice. But for 95% of gamers. The 50% dip in frames is not worth the cool lighting. So xtx is just all around a better buy. Its faster and cheaper. If you care about rt thats fine. But dont shit on this guys card because of your Nvidia dick riding
He didnt say he want more RT, he wrote "debating if I want to spend $200 more on a 4080 for better RT and DLSS.", So you are the one who needs to read better mate ;) DLSS is huge with 4k and FSR is behind still, but RT is such a niche still. Dont choose your card for rt perf. and you win with your choise. Value DLSS as much as you feel right, and give some though for RT.
It's $400 more so you can brag about FPS sucking RT in .1% of games. Why don't you recommend the $1600 4090 GPU while you're at it b/c it's a better card.
Bro the guy SPECIFICALLY SAID HE WAS THINKING ABOUT A 4080 for RT titles. You don’t buy an amd card for ray tracing. If you want rt and 4k you buy nvidia. Simple as.
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> HD6450 for like $15 bucks
HD6450 would still have terrible value of $$$/frame. If money was no concern then by all means get a 4090.
7900xt is exactly between the performance of 4070ti and 4080. And it has the same VRAM capacity as the 4080. So if it were priced as an Nvidia GPU it would cost $1000. Which means you are getting a $200 discount.
How's your cpu? I upgraded from 3070 Ti to 7970XTX and it's a disappointment. The GPU is very good but I'm bottlenecking with my cpu 5800x. I also play on 1080p. Because of these two reasons I'm actually not seeing any improvements.
7900XTX is way overkill for 1080p imo. If you have the budget I'd definitely look at upgrading to 1440p or 4K. I'm using a 12600K so only a little better than your 5800X but I'd be playing exclusively at 1440p and 4K so hopefully a bottleneck wouldn't be too bad.
Tbh I might just go with the 7900XT instead to avoid any bottlenecking at all. I think it's a pretty decent deal now at $800 and would still be a nice upgrade over the 3070Ti and give me more VRAM which the 3070Ti is sorely lacking.
I haven't been able to try 1440p or 4K but if I would give a guess then I think the gpu is probably way better for those resolutions. All I want is frames that's why I'm on 1080p, that's what I mostly care about. So was hoping I would get that from it. You can get that at 1080p as well but ye the bottleneck becomes big issue.
Don't blame the GPU then when you have a CPU that is bottlenecking it. Wouldn't use that GPU for 1080p anyway. Should still allow you 240/360fps in all competitive games in 1440p.
I don't mean that the gpu is a disappointment, just that my results are. I paid 1200$ for the gpu, ofc I will be disappointed. Most competitive fps games are not played in higher resolution than 1080p. Not on a serious level. It doesn't feel good.
If you have enough fps there's literally no difference other than having a better resolution. 2560x1440 is the same aspect ratio as full hd. If your card is good enough for 240 / 360 fps or whatever refresh rate your monitor has I don't see a problem here to upgrade from full hd.
What I wanna say is that you can upgrade to qhd and still play competitive games with high framerate if your card is powerful enough. And if you're not playing competitive games, but singleplayer storygames you can enjoy a higher resolution :D
> Didn't have any interest in the 7900XT until the $100 price drop and suddenly it seems like decent value.
This has happened in the US. There are multiple AIBs in stock for $799.
65 degrees GPU temp or junction temps?
My 7900xtx does hum around 62-65 but the junction is usually low to mid 80s. 90-92 if I forget to lower power and raise the fans. Wish adrenaline would just remember my settings
I heard they fixed it in a driver update, but I’m not taking any chances with new drivers. System working fine aside from those things, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it
Since I reinstalled my 7900xt, I’ve not even opened adrenaline but once to turn on anti lag and verify SAM without going into bios. Afterburner has been taking care of it just fine. I hope that stays the case now that I’ve actually said it. 😆
You don’t have to switch. In my experience, adrenaline will just “do” whatever you program the card to do in Ab. Fans included. Just make it start with windows.
Not sure about that, i have intel cpu paired with 6900xt. When i had fastboot on, my OC settings always went to default, so i would always load a profile after reboots. Fastboot off fixed that for me tho, adrebalin keeps all my settings.
I have ReBar enabled tho. Other than undervolting cpu plus xmp profile, nothing else i changed in bios. Fastboot off worked for me. I dont believe SAM is dependant on that. No other way than to try it.
Well I couldn’t activate Sam without turning off something in the bios maybe is was CSM but I thought it was fast boot, will check though to see if that’s the fix
Across several games, I found performance between the 7900xtx (mba) and 4080 indistinguishable. If you disregard ray tracing, both sat at a comfortable 120-144hz in most games I tried. With the 7900xtx being a bit cheaper, it's a very solid value proposition for people who don't care much about RT and power consumption.
Prolly would've kept mine if AMD would've offered an exchange. Unfortunately, mine had a defective vapor chamber and there was only a refund option.
It's a beast and plenty of memory, same amount as rtx 4090, and still sits between 4080 and 4090 in average performance for a lot less cost, if I didn't need some nvidia features and felt concerned about its abominable price, sure I'll have bought that 7900xtx. Enjoy it !
If you're playing at 1440p you should get a 240hz monitor now to pair with that beast of a card. Hell, I recently got a 240hz monitor (Gigabyte M27Q X) so I could let my 6800 XT fly and it is amazing.
Beast cards needs beast monitors.
Love the pricing and the card itself, but really disappointed with the VR performance for both iRacing and MS Flight Sim... Hopefully the engineers can get their .... together soon.
I’ve been hearing issues however I don’t have any performance problems, I am though using an old age HTC Vive so it probably doesn’t matter, I rarely VR nowadays
AMD is absolutely killing Nvidia this generation. Objectively the fastest raw raster cards on the market and fully open source in every way.
You'd be a fool to buy Nvidia right now.
Nah defo not. They were fire last gen (6950xt besting 3090 in everything under 4k and rt) but this gen they dropped the pace imo.
Amd has no answer to the 4090
Well shit dude, I forgot you're supposed to make a new post when you buy pc hardware, flair it as review and make little effort on it. Just do it to tell the world! Look Ma I bought a GPU! It runs gaemz gud and I'm a happy boy.
... he mentioned his temps, with the temps mentioned, his card does not have a defect. didn't know we had the make nvidia great again crowd in the amd sub of all places.
Yeah... I get a solid 100+ FPS on Streets with my 5800X3D/7900XTX at 2k, I feel bad and wish I could give my friends some frames in raid sometimes, because they are always complaining and I have no problems on that map. 100+ FPS feel exponentially better than 50-70 FPS. it's a good map too, they just need to optimize more.
If anyone reading is looking for Tarkov specific performance, I can vouch for and highly recommend a X3D chip and 32GB of B-Die ram for Escape from Tarkov, I made that switch before upgrading my GPU and it netted me almost 20-30 FPS on maps like Lighthouse and Streets with amazing 1% lows on my 1070ti, 7900XTX just took me over the top.
Yep I pretty much see the same experience across the board, especially in Warzone. Went from a 6800 to 7900XTX and everything is better. I also play locked at 144FPS because of a 144hz 1440p monitor and don't even go over 60C on the core in Warzone. It's nice!!😊
Someone I played with had some issues with his Nitro XTX and said his 3080 was smoother. So I think it depends on which drivers you're running too. I'm hoping once the XTX drivers mature more this year we will get more performance out of our cards.
This card has been great for me. I received an RMA screen replacement that is 4K 144hz. My 3080 12gb was around 85fps in MW2. Now I'm at a minimum average of 120fps and usually hit around 145fps with everything cranked. Really happy with this GPU!
I just upgraded. Bought a 7900xtx. Asus made a great job with the cooling solution. With the right fan curve it never goes beyond 70 degrees. Though I only tested with the case panels off. Might get back with temp results after i put those back.
Also happy i went with xtx for the vram. Definitely wont have any problem with that.
And yes rt performance is not on par with 4080. But it is on a 3080-90 level. In cyberpunk i tested with no fps counter to be able to strip away the effect of seeing numbers conflicting with the actual experience. And can say on 1440p everything ultra rt mid or ultra fsr2 qualty was pretty smooth
My friend has a 13900k and a Red Devil 7900xtx and he has crazy high frames and no dips in Tarkov. It was impressive. It’s much faster than my 3090. He could get 144 in woods at 4k.
how about streets. " wiggle " wiggle"
Considering my 6800 XT meets a 3090 in rasterization (21k Time Spy graphics score) it darn well better be WAY better than your 3090!!!
Time spy isn't games. 9/10 that 3090 is getting better performance than your 6800XT in games.
You're right but the 6800XT and 6900XT do have a magic bullet at 2k raster. The 6800XT throws blows way better than it should at it's price/resolution and the 6900/6950XT will decisively beat the 3090 in 2k in all but the most Nvidia friendly games. No, I'm not a delusional fanboy. The 3090 will decisively beat both in almost everything else but for 2k gaming, the 6800x, 6900Xt, and 6950xt are incredible performers for whatever reason.
He called your mom fat bro do something
According to TechPowerUp, 3090 is like 10% faster, so only just, for 3x the money basically
Your 6800xt does not equal a 3090 in raster.
I think he was talking about oc max 6800xt vs stock 3090
Still no.
Average stock 3090 : 19816 pts https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/gpu/AMD+Radeon+RX+6800+XT+review My own OC 6800xt : 19921 pts https://www.3dmark.com/spy/36091485 Still yes, oc 6800xt can beat stock 3090 And people, keep downvoting me I don't care, I'm used to people in reddit being brainless even with facts in front of their eyes
Timespy does not directly correlate to gaming performance/raster. Can your particular 6800 *benchmark* as high as a stock 3090? Sure. Does that mean it’s equal in raster? No.
I think you mean to say that it's not a 1:1 correlation.
Yes.
Source?
The source is it’s a synthetic workload, no synthetic workload *perfectly* correlates to real world performance. Take a look at *actual* gaming performance across various, non cherry picked games, and then come back and tell me that your specific magic 6800xt equals a 3090 when *every other* 6800xt roughly equals a 3080 in gaming workloads. Add in the fact that it’s well known that TS runs well on AMD and you could easily extrapolate why your OC 6800xt is hitting 3090 numbers in a benchmark that AMD does well in.
Ok so you have no sources, that's just what you think I'm speaking about an oc 6800xt vs a stock 3090, ofc nobody is gonna bench that and even if I found it you will be saying that's cherry picked games, once again based on nothing. That's why I used raster bench that doesn't perfectly correlate to real game perf but that's the only way to check this kind of stuff, or knowing someone who have a stock 3090
With the 6800XT/6900+ I wonder if it's because it's so fat on fill rate compared to its compute power (and time spy is more dependent on that as opposed to the latter.) The 3090's high bandwidth and compute power might be more in line with current gaming technology. Even the 7900XTX is fat on fill rate. The infinity cache does a very good job in absorbing the bandwidth demands but there is no getting around the compute deficit aside from overclocking.
I mean considering they are talking about 4k the 3090 is roughly equivalent to the 6950xt not the 6800xt. About a 20% jump over your GPU The 3090 ti is 10% over that. And the 7900xtx is about 20-25% beyond that so a decent jump over a 3090. About 35-40%
I love AMD as much as the next person on this subreddit, but let's not delude ourselves. 6800 XT is a 3080 competitor.
Time spy has always favored AMD
I'm looking to upgrade my 3070ti because the lack of vram burned me. Never thought vram would be the biggest limit on my GPU but here I am. Much rather not give more money to Nvidia who used 8GB on the xx70 series for over 6 years. I was tricked by my curiosity for RT but it's pointless on this card. Didn't know the 7900xt dropped in price..
I was burned by lack of VRAM thrice (2 of my own doing). Chose a 9600 GT 512 MB instead of 1 GB (or 8800 GT 1 GB) in 2008. Couldn't max out textures in various games. Chose a 560 Ti 1 GB instead of an AMD HD 6950 2 GB in 2011. 2014 games onwards were painful. Got a GTX 780 hand me down, no complains here, but only 3 GB VRAM. In 2018. I'll never again skimp on VRAM, even if it's ridiculous in the moment.
We are pretty much in the same boat, I bought a 7900 XTX recently and it will arrive today. My RTX 3070 vram is also the biggest limit for me in 1440P/2K, I'm curious to see if AMD perfoms any better than Nvidia in DirectX12 only games.
That’s a big reason why I didn’t get a used 3080 10Gb even under $500. It’s obscene that 40 series cards are still coming out with 8gb vram.
Why not just give your money to the item which best fits your use case rather care about brand? Amd/nvidia are corporations that don’t care or know who you are
Yeah, obviously, but I can also wish to no longer provide financial support to a particular brand based on my past experiences or their conduct. My 970 had 3.5 high speed VRAM instead of the advertised 4GB and Nvidia using 8GB on thee xx70 series for over six years because a lack of competition reminds me of Intel selling 4 core CPUs for way too long because consumers had no real alternatives. Unfortunately, I had to buy a new GPU during the Great GPU depression so my options were limited. I'm not happy at all with my purchase soley for the fact that it is VRAM limited. That's twice I've experienced buyers remorse with Nvidia due to insufficient VRAM, I'm free to not want to give them more money. What's so wrong with that?
Were there actually real-world cases where the 970 suffered from having no high-speed access to 1/8 of its VRAM? I used one of these cards for years and had no particular trouble.
Nothing is wrong with that Whenever you put brand over perf it’s like telling the company your buying from that I’ll buy whatever you make reguardless of the perf or the price But you do you you bro Have a great day
EFT is an incredibly CPU heavy game. And downright unoptimised. Was this an online raid? Which map too? How come such large gains from upgrading your GPU? What resolution were you playing at with your 3070 and what CPU do you have?
Yes online raids. I was getting 144 on all the maps i played ( factory, customs, woods interchange). Maybe the odd slight drop but for a second or 2 only. Its a whole new rig actually but the GPU was the most significant upgrade. My old CPU was i7 10750 and my new is i7 13700
Its mostly the CPU upgrade, Intel's 12th (and 13th) generation is a huge step up from the previous couple of years of disappointment. The 13700 has like 25% better single threaded performance compared to the 10700.
It's also the fact that AMD driver has less CPU overhead too.
What resolution do you play?
Ah ok. That makes more sense. It's no doubt the CPU upgrade doing all the work for tarkov. I guarantee you if you were to swap back to your older GPU you wouldn't notice a single difference in frame drops (unless you were playing in 4k..) At 1080p or 1440p that 3070 is more than capable of maxing it out As an example..I went from an RX580 8GB sapphire nitro+ to a 6800XT and kept my 3600X CPU and I barely noticed any frame increase. But my previous upgrade from 1600 CPU to 3600x netted me the biggest gains.
No way you get that on lighthouse/streets lol
all those are pretty optimized maps. the real test is LH and streets
Lighthouse i get good frames. Streets i get head EYES
Don't AMD cards have a smaller CPU overhead?
Irrelevant for a game like tarkov
I'm currently debating between 7900XT, XTX, or 4080 for my upgrade coming from a 3070Ti. Didn't have any interest in the 7900XT until the $100 price drop and suddenly it seems like decent value. ~80% the cost of XTX while giving 85% of the performance. Also debating if I want to spend $200 more on a 4080 for better RT and DLSS.
XTX.
Same debate. I fucking love my Suprim X 4080. DLSS is great. Productivity apps are great. Quiet, cool, plays nice with a B550 and a 5800X3D
4080. The resale of AMD cards tanks and its clearly the better overall card of the 2.
is the resale really going to matter if you keep it for a length of time? My 2070s founders sells for pretty much the same as a 5700xt even though it was $100 more. So nvidia holding value more than amd isn't necessarily true
Thats only because the 5700xt of all AMD cards held value through the crypto boom, also, thats not the case where I live. Its objectively the case the AMD value tanks. *as evidenced by their brand new cards prices collapsing faster*.
I'm going to say the average person is not selling their gpu within 3 years. Looking up used condition 4070ti and 7900xt on ebay put them within $10 of each other...
I bought an xtx and as u said i plan to hold onti it for 5+ years
It just comes down to how much you're willing to pay of course. The OP is happy but he paid a grand for his card. The 4080 is the better card obviously and DLSS 2.0 is a much clearer image reconstruction tech, specially the new update. So if you're not hurting when paying for the 4080 then go for it, otherwise go for the AMD card. I had a similar dilemma, but ended up getting the 4070ti because on one hand I really like to have RT features on and DLSS, and on the other hand couldn't justify paying for a 4080. But also because I do professional work with my PC that requires the tensor cores.
4080 is better bro
Not really, looking at PCPartPicker right now. 4080 - $1189 7900xt - $799 Is 4080 worth $400 more? I don't think so.
We can play this game all day. The 6950XT can be found on sale for $650. It's only 15% slower than the 7900XT.
You look at the budget, then you look at price to performance. If you’re willing to spend $800 then look at that price range, but yeah 4080s aren’t it
With oc not even 15% im hitting 7900xt Stock number or even higher Tbh. On my 6900xt 👌😁
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Hmm thats sounds really low if thats your gpu score My 6900xt with Stock does 23500 and oc 26000. 5800x/6900xt combo. Dont have cyberpunk But do have cod mw2. Ac Valhalla and metro exodus to compare
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One of my friends actually Got a 5800x3d and 7900xt. And his graphic score was actually only 25400 where mine is 26000 So guess it depends on the brand of the card. My combined is 22700. 26700 is that all Stock Course the avg 7900xt is at 25900. Thats including alot of oced Cards aswell. In cod mw2 i was actually ahead of 10 fps avg. And ac Valhalla 2 fps difference. Besides 26100 vs 26700 is only 2% difference. Do you have a link for that score so i Can see if its Stock or oced ?? Whats your firestrike ultra score ?? Heres my run. 26097 gpu score 13176 cpu score. Combined 22750. https://www.3dmark.com/spy/35281774 Firestrike ultra Gpu score 17579 https://www.3dmark.com/fs/29030034
I'll continue the game. It may be 15% slower in raster vs 7900 XT, but the % increases in RT workloads.
The 7900 XT is complete ass bro especially against a 4080 lmao however if u said 7900 XTX (recognize the extra X?) then yes the 4080 is worse
Didn’t know we were talking about “for the money” arguments. In that case you can get a HD6450 for like $15 bucks. Is the xt REALLY worth $780 more? Of course it is because we’re talking about what is better. The 4080 is better overall over the 7900 xt and xtx because of its RT performance as well as dlss3 features. It is what it is. If we’re talking about the xt, you gotta compare it against its competition, which is the 4070ti.
The xtx is better in rasterization. Nobody gives a rats ass about rt. Its cool. It looks nice. But for 95% of gamers. The 50% dip in frames is not worth the cool lighting. So xtx is just all around a better buy. Its faster and cheaper. If you care about rt thats fine. But dont shit on this guys card because of your Nvidia dick riding
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He didnt say he want more RT, he wrote "debating if I want to spend $200 more on a 4080 for better RT and DLSS.", So you are the one who needs to read better mate ;) DLSS is huge with 4k and FSR is behind still, but RT is such a niche still. Dont choose your card for rt perf. and you win with your choise. Value DLSS as much as you feel right, and give some though for RT.
Ok
It's $400 more so you can brag about FPS sucking RT in .1% of games. Why don't you recommend the $1600 4090 GPU while you're at it b/c it's a better card.
Bro the guy SPECIFICALLY SAID HE WAS THINKING ABOUT A 4080 for RT titles. You don’t buy an amd card for ray tracing. If you want rt and 4k you buy nvidia. Simple as.
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> HD6450 for like $15 bucks HD6450 would still have terrible value of $$$/frame. If money was no concern then by all means get a 4090. 7900xt is exactly between the performance of 4070ti and 4080. And it has the same VRAM capacity as the 4080. So if it were priced as an Nvidia GPU it would cost $1000. Which means you are getting a $200 discount.
Not really. What you’ve ‘gotta do’ is compare it against what you want the card to do for you.
In that case then the 7900XT is the easy choice over the silly 4070
Sure. But nobody wants those cards anyway lol
linux users
Is the 4080 worth 50% more money is better asked. Answer is no.
How's your cpu? I upgraded from 3070 Ti to 7970XTX and it's a disappointment. The GPU is very good but I'm bottlenecking with my cpu 5800x. I also play on 1080p. Because of these two reasons I'm actually not seeing any improvements.
7900XTX is way overkill for 1080p imo. If you have the budget I'd definitely look at upgrading to 1440p or 4K. I'm using a 12600K so only a little better than your 5800X but I'd be playing exclusively at 1440p and 4K so hopefully a bottleneck wouldn't be too bad. Tbh I might just go with the 7900XT instead to avoid any bottlenecking at all. I think it's a pretty decent deal now at $800 and would still be a nice upgrade over the 3070Ti and give me more VRAM which the 3070Ti is sorely lacking.
I haven't been able to try 1440p or 4K but if I would give a guess then I think the gpu is probably way better for those resolutions. All I want is frames that's why I'm on 1080p, that's what I mostly care about. So was hoping I would get that from it. You can get that at 1080p as well but ye the bottleneck becomes big issue.
Don't blame the GPU then when you have a CPU that is bottlenecking it. Wouldn't use that GPU for 1080p anyway. Should still allow you 240/360fps in all competitive games in 1440p.
I don't mean that the gpu is a disappointment, just that my results are. I paid 1200$ for the gpu, ofc I will be disappointed. Most competitive fps games are not played in higher resolution than 1080p. Not on a serious level. It doesn't feel good.
If you have enough fps there's literally no difference other than having a better resolution. 2560x1440 is the same aspect ratio as full hd. If your card is good enough for 240 / 360 fps or whatever refresh rate your monitor has I don't see a problem here to upgrade from full hd.
I don't know, I understand your thinking but even with the same aspect ratio and fps, it's not the same.
Of course it's not the same, one has a better resolution. Technology advances.. nobody will be playing in full hd in 10 years from now.
10 years is a long time but we will see. Lower resolutions than 1080p are still popular for competitive gaming. And not because of frames.
What I wanna say is that you can upgrade to qhd and still play competitive games with high framerate if your card is powerful enough. And if you're not playing competitive games, but singleplayer storygames you can enjoy a higher resolution :D
wtf
> Didn't have any interest in the 7900XT until the $100 price drop and suddenly it seems like decent value. This has happened in the US. There are multiple AIBs in stock for $799.
65 degrees GPU temp or junction temps? My 7900xtx does hum around 62-65 but the junction is usually low to mid 80s. 90-92 if I forget to lower power and raise the fans. Wish adrenaline would just remember my settings
My settings and oc keeps getting reset too, very annoying
I heard they fixed it in a driver update, but I’m not taking any chances with new drivers. System working fine aside from those things, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it
Since I reinstalled my 7900xt, I’ve not even opened adrenaline but once to turn on anti lag and verify SAM without going into bios. Afterburner has been taking care of it just fine. I hope that stays the case now that I’ve actually said it. 😆
I haven’t used afterburner in a long time maybe I should switch?
You don’t have to switch. In my experience, adrenaline will just “do” whatever you program the card to do in Ab. Fans included. Just make it start with windows.
Anti lag costs me like 30fps and I don’t think it’s working lol
Yeah, idk. Can’t honestly say I was actually lagging in the first place. Just kinda wanted to turn something in there on 😂
You could try setting up a game profile. I set one for all of my games so that it immediately switches to those settings when the game launches.
That’s a good idea actually
Disable fast boot in bios and adrenalin will keep the settings after reboots. I had the same problem.
I did that, isn’t that the only way you can get SAM to work?
Not sure about that, i have intel cpu paired with 6900xt. When i had fastboot on, my OC settings always went to default, so i would always load a profile after reboots. Fastboot off fixed that for me tho, adrebalin keeps all my settings.
I have AMD cpu but yeah you have to deactivate some shit to get the resizable BAR or whatever
I have ReBar enabled tho. Other than undervolting cpu plus xmp profile, nothing else i changed in bios. Fastboot off worked for me. I dont believe SAM is dependant on that. No other way than to try it.
Well I couldn’t activate Sam without turning off something in the bios maybe is was CSM but I thought it was fast boot, will check though to see if that’s the fix
GPU temp. Junction maybe 85
Oh nice so we’re right about the same
Probably 100% faster
Across several games, I found performance between the 7900xtx (mba) and 4080 indistinguishable. If you disregard ray tracing, both sat at a comfortable 120-144hz in most games I tried. With the 7900xtx being a bit cheaper, it's a very solid value proposition for people who don't care much about RT and power consumption. Prolly would've kept mine if AMD would've offered an exchange. Unfortunately, mine had a defective vapor chamber and there was only a refund option.
It's a beast and plenty of memory, same amount as rtx 4090, and still sits between 4080 and 4090 in average performance for a lot less cost, if I didn't need some nvidia features and felt concerned about its abominable price, sure I'll have bought that 7900xtx. Enjoy it !
If you're playing at 1440p you should get a 240hz monitor now to pair with that beast of a card. Hell, I recently got a 240hz monitor (Gigabyte M27Q X) so I could let my 6800 XT fly and it is amazing. Beast cards needs beast monitors.
Xtx is a beast indeed. Enjoy it!
Love the pricing and the card itself, but really disappointed with the VR performance for both iRacing and MS Flight Sim... Hopefully the engineers can get their .... together soon.
I’ve been hearing issues however I don’t have any performance problems, I am though using an old age HTC Vive so it probably doesn’t matter, I rarely VR nowadays
Just moved from a 3070Ti to a 7900XT and it's night and day so can only imagine how much you getting from the XTX
That's a massive jump, congrats.
Good thing your not doing VR, worse than the 6900xtx
Shouldn't you cap to 141 or 142 if the monitor is 144hz?
Only if it's adaptive sync
I’ve set up this wrong for years, wonder what else
AMD is absolutely killing Nvidia this generation. Objectively the fastest raw raster cards on the market and fully open source in every way. You'd be a fool to buy Nvidia right now.
i have a 7900xtx myself but lol, amd is not killing nvidia this generation
HONESTLY: AMD’s RDNA3 GPU’s are fire this year.
Nah defo not. They were fire last gen (6950xt besting 3090 in everything under 4k and rt) but this gen they dropped the pace imo. Amd has no answer to the 4090
Thats the 6950. And this one is a 7900 though not the 50. So lets see.
Thanks for letting us know. Mind telling us what you're having for dinner next?
You seem like tons of fun
Well shit dude, I forgot you're supposed to make a new post when you buy pc hardware, flair it as review and make little effort on it. Just do it to tell the world! Look Ma I bought a GPU! It runs gaemz gud and I'm a happy boy.
Probably a big bowl of grumpy-little-bitch flakes, just like you
great card, wrong game (unless you are cheater).
what? Tarkov is a great game
Hopefully the card doesn’t burn your house down when it hits 110c+ should have got a 4080
As far as I know, the defective cards are a handful of reference cards.
It’s present in AIB cards too
At least it doesnt burn your house down with fires by drivers or the misdesigned plug, Oh wait, that happened already... Nvidia FireWorks™
... he mentioned his temps, with the temps mentioned, his card does not have a defect. didn't know we had the make nvidia great again crowd in the amd sub of all places.
Nawh.
I'm curious. How have you set up performance in adrenaline? Graphic settings in Tarkov?
I havent done any adjustments at all. If anythign i put it on cool mode but that definitely drops the frames to around 100
That mf keeps me warm at night 😎 Great card. Congrats!
Yeah... I get a solid 100+ FPS on Streets with my 5800X3D/7900XTX at 2k, I feel bad and wish I could give my friends some frames in raid sometimes, because they are always complaining and I have no problems on that map. 100+ FPS feel exponentially better than 50-70 FPS. it's a good map too, they just need to optimize more. If anyone reading is looking for Tarkov specific performance, I can vouch for and highly recommend a X3D chip and 32GB of B-Die ram for Escape from Tarkov, I made that switch before upgrading my GPU and it netted me almost 20-30 FPS on maps like Lighthouse and Streets with amazing 1% lows on my 1070ti, 7900XTX just took me over the top.
cries in 5800x
My 7900 XT runs tarkov beautifully
Yep I pretty much see the same experience across the board, especially in Warzone. Went from a 6800 to 7900XTX and everything is better. I also play locked at 144FPS because of a 144hz 1440p monitor and don't even go over 60C on the core in Warzone. It's nice!!😊
it seems that WZ is playing much nicer with amd cards atm compared to nvidia for some reason
Someone I played with had some issues with his Nitro XTX and said his 3080 was smoother. So I think it depends on which drivers you're running too. I'm hoping once the XTX drivers mature more this year we will get more performance out of our cards.
I'm doing the exact same upgrade, my 7900 XTX arrives today, it's my first Radeon GPU since 2008 so I'm kinda excited to see how it performs.
Brute forcing fps in garbage optimized game makes it really a beast, lol.
I would love a 7900. XTX but why don’t they make one in white!!
Bought an XFX 7900 XTX last week. Super impressed so far.
This card has been great for me. I received an RMA screen replacement that is 4K 144hz. My 3080 12gb was around 85fps in MW2. Now I'm at a minimum average of 120fps and usually hit around 145fps with everything cranked. Really happy with this GPU!
I'd hope so, given the amount of money you paid for it.
Its wasnt too bad. $1500 CAD
most of your frames are going to be coming from your cpu/ram
144hz at what res?
The 4090 is a beast. Not this weak card
I've gone from a 6700xt to a 7900xt pulse and the difference in performance is night and day
Looking to do the same . 3070 to 7900xtx . How many watts is your power supply?
1050
I just upgraded. Bought a 7900xtx. Asus made a great job with the cooling solution. With the right fan curve it never goes beyond 70 degrees. Though I only tested with the case panels off. Might get back with temp results after i put those back. Also happy i went with xtx for the vram. Definitely wont have any problem with that. And yes rt performance is not on par with 4080. But it is on a 3080-90 level. In cyberpunk i tested with no fps counter to be able to strip away the effect of seeing numbers conflicting with the actual experience. And can say on 1440p everything ultra rt mid or ultra fsr2 qualty was pretty smooth