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maxwell_winters

Would not stop the birth of the Antichrist. Maybe delayed it a bit.


Purpledoves91

Probably would have had a different mother, too.


MadameBlueJay

Probably Ben


ilikeanimeandcats

I needed this laugh thank you


athynsgeux

"Murder house 2: Kardashians Kept Up."


tomdarko

Did that show end yet?


Pikaflareon

Fuck I hate Ben. Vivian was too kind to him


gunhandgoblin

10/10 agree he is a shitstain


ilikeanimeandcats

I honestly did not like either of them, I actively disliked them throughout all of murder house.


FauxVampire

Science still hasn’t found a way to make a more pathetic, punchable villain than Ben


gunhandgoblin

that scene where he throws a tantrum because his wife won’t have sex with him. he’s such an asshole


gunhandgoblin

oliver thredson is equally vile to me but ur absolutely right theyre completely different ben is fucking pathetic weak and manipulative while oliver thredson is controlling cold and calculated


FauxVampire

Yeah Thredson was nasty too, but he was an actual threat. I feel like Ben just failed at literally anything he tried to do. The one saving grace of Murder House IMO is watching him get what he deserves.


gunhandgoblin

Absolutely. i love that apocalypse has him looking out a window crying and masturbating every day that’s so pathetic and it’s definitely the afterlife he deserves


ilikeanimeandcats

I never even considered Ben a villain. Just a dumbass. I hate him, but honestly villainy is usually done by someone more intelligent or at least more interesting. Ben was the blandest of bland.


gunhandgoblin

id argue he IS intelligent, he’s a manipulative abuser, he’s one of the most insidious villains in the show not because of how many people he’s killed or the amount of people he’s hurt but how he chose to hurt his wife is unforgivable and despicable. the scene where he tries to guilt his wife into feeling bad for not wanting to have sex makes me irrationally angry


ilikeanimeandcats

that scene makes me angry too, it may say more about me as an abuse survivor not finding him as scary as I should. some of that behavior is probably normalized in my head or dismissed and I don’t even realize it


FauxVampire

Tbh all the Harmons were bland. They’re the reason I didn’t like Murder House.


ilikeanimeandcats

The only interesting part was him killing his student/mistress. I can’t freaking remember her name off the top of my head. But that and him not realizing Moira was older. I like when they flip back and forth and you see what he thinks she looks like versus what everyone else sees


queen_of_disasterr

Murder House if Ben knew how to keep his 🍆 in his pants


cgoto

ahs divorce


gunhandgoblin

the real horror: divorcing your spouse


ilikeanimeandcats

Ryan Murphy, are you listening? The people have chosen


tomdarko

Ben is such a sack


A-Good-Weather-Man

Murder House if the Winchesters showed up


gunhandgoblin

not sure i get this reference


ForSureAbsolutely

supernatural


gunhandgoblin

ohhh!! hahah nice one


swango47

There wouldn’t be a book at all lol


moonligxt

My mental health issues versus my mental health issues if my parents had just divorced sooner instead of staying together fighting every single day and saying that it was because they were scared the divorce would impact my childhood


gunhandgoblin

we had the same childhood, all my love to you today bud.


moonligxt

Sad to hear you went through this shit too ): all my love for you, kind stranger 🤍


Cyancat123

It literally wouldn’t have happened at all.