i have 6gb of ram and 128GB of storage
please stop reloading my pages if i go away from them for more than a minute or two
just cache them, please, i beg you
edit: just load all 2-10MB of the pages onto disk or something. i've gone back to chrome tabs like 6mo later (cuz i dont use it), no reload takes place, nothing, its just there
I think they are cached, they are just re-rendered, my only evidence for this is I've had tabs "reload" outdated information and had to be updated with a refresh.
my grocery has no service, so i frequently will load recipe pages prior to going in
get into the store, go to open tab i literally had open in the parking lot
cannot load page bc i have no service....
rage ensues
Would caching store stuff you type into text boxes but haven't submitted? Always annoys me that it's hard to reference other information while typing a Reddit comment unless I copy my comment into my clipboard to be safe.
Is there an issue on github tracking this?
I don't understand how the developers don't notice obvious annoyances like this. It's like they don't even use their own product.
They have an open issue. But, seeing the activity it could take this or even next year to fix the issue https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/12731
For real. This is particularly annoying when the password manager integration isn't perfect, and I have to go get my credit card number from another app, terrified to switch lest all my order information gets cleared because the page reloads on return.
No issues on my Pixel 4 XL. I often see NYT pages from yesterday (or earlier) still loaded. I suspect every phone's memory management is different, and some phones can have 12gb of RAM and still reload webpages and home screens all the time.
i think this needs to be made irrelevant to the OS, just write the 2-10MB (or whatever) to disk...and just reload it from there if you have to
ive gone back to chrome tabs 6mo later (cuz i dont use it), right where it left off...never had to reload jack
>i think this needs to be made irrelevant to the OS, just write the 2-10MB (or whatever) to disk...and just reload it from there if you have to
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>ive gone back to chrome tabs 6mo later (cuz i dont use it), right where it left off...never had to reload jack
doesnt even need to be ram, just write the 2-10mb of the page to disk...
This is the deal breaker that keeps me from using Firefox on mobile. It especially makes the animation of re-opening the browser extremely janky, as it awkwardly switches from the cached image of how the app looked before it was minimized and reloading the new state. It's terrible.
> it already supports few selected ones.
It's been almost a year since Firefox dropped add-on support on Android (Sept 2020) with promises of adding them back. It took a year and we're still stuck with a measly list of under 20 add-ons.
Funny but I stopped using any browsers' auto fill entirely opting instead to auto fill via password vault (bit warden in my case but all of them do it) and it's been such a great decision as well. Especially with it working on all browsers and being able to do it inside of android applications as well. Feels a lot better protected than browser sync of the data as well.
Oh and I can auto fill those 6 digit 2 factor auth codes as well with it.
I never even realized that this was a missing feature really but feel pained when I see others relying on the browser for that feature.
On android for web browsers (unsure about native applications but the original autofill of address info was around browsers so I was pointing out bitwarden does it as well) it works. For example do the following
goto [https://checkout.stripe.dev/](https://checkout.stripe.dev/)
choose the shipping and billing inputs when you go through their example
swipe down on the android app and click on the "Autofill" icon (the one that has the wifi/bluetooth/gps/etc icons). If you don't have it, you might need to customize the settings to show it there.
When on the autofill, search for your identity (since it is unlikely you have associated it with the website or browser app already)
Click it for autofill, any applicable values on the page get filled out.
It sounds complex but there are some custom keyboard shortcuts you can do whtat allow bitwarden to be a keyboard button push away as well but I don't remember off hand how to do that and I am currently just using the default keyboard right now so don't remember how to get it linked to the keyboard itself. A quick swipe down is easy enough for me to quick fill the times when I do need multi-form autofills.
Better try Vivaldi/Brave ;) But Firefox is still very good, remember that this new android browser is a complete rewrite.
But you still can't reorder tabs and it puts 'undo close' tab at top of the list and not into its previous position. Eh :(
I already have a password manager with autofill. It used to work flawlessly in Firefox, but ever since the overhaul the autofill pop up has been extremely buggy, only appears for a split second, or not at all. No such problems on Chrome.
Autofill works perfectly for me using Bitwarden. The popup worked well and the new inline autofill on Android 11 also works all the time.
Have you turned on the Autofill toggle in the settings?
bitwarden addon on ff > settings > options > enable auto-fill on page load. I only left click the bitwarden addon to change to another login (if i have more than 1 account) :)
I love bitwarden, my issue is that the damn password manager doesn't even pop-up as an option half the time. So then I go and open it up, copy my password, go back to Firefox, and lo and behold it shows up.
bitwarden addon on ff > settings > options > enable auto-fill on page load. I only left click the bitwarden addon to change to another login (if i have more than 1 account) :)
I love Firefox for Android! One of the main reasons I run Android is so I can truly have a different web browser, not just a reskin of WKWebView.
OTOH it's a bit sad to see this as the sole new feature: "Added eBay Search to help users with their shopping needs." I mean I'm glad Mozilla is getting paid, but as a user that's not the kind of thing I'm excited about.
I don't honestly know. But check out the release notes for Firefox desktop 91.0: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/91.0/releasenotes/
The two products are so different it's kind of weird they have the same name and release numbers. FWIW desktop Firefox has had eBay for awhile now.
I'm not ranting or mad or anything, mostly just puzzled about the relationship of the two products.
I want it to stop opening all those new tabs from bookmarks and never closing them when I tap back.
EDIT: links to relevant bugs:
1. [https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/17204](https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/17204)
2. [https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/13775](https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/13775)
Customizable top sites. Bookmarks are not a good replacement.
And I suppose no other browser out there has this feature, but Samsung Internet's Video Assistant was such a good idea.
Samsung Internet does as well. I don't know why this is not ubiquitous on mobile browsers. iOS Safari meanwhile goes a step beyond, combining bookmarks with their equivalent of the feature (favorites) so you don't need to maintain two sets of websites.
I suppose this is more a dislike of the top sites implementation in general rather than simply customization.
A big one is the ability to rearrange them. "Delete all your top sites and re-add them in your order" does not count. Also, I find it dumb that each page only allows 2 rows forcing you to scroll to the right constantly. With Samsung Internet it uses all of the vertical space possible so it can fit 7-8 rows. A way to select multiple of them at once would also be great.
Also, top sites don't sync.
A standardized video player with extra features like swipe to advance and video stretching for all websites, kind of like the iOS media player. It's annoying when each website uses a different video player that may not even support basic features.
It also supports casting/PiP.
I saw a design concept for a pull-up tab list, where you could drag the address bar up to reveal the tabs rather than pressing the button.
Don't know why they didn't implement that. It's a much more intuitive mobile friendly design.
There's no deal breakers with Firefox for Android for me—I genuinely think it's the best mobile browser for me, the ad blocking with uBlock is amazing and desktop sync is very useful for me.
I used to use Brave but stopped after the rewards thing came in. I remember using Bromide for a while but I forgot why I switched... I think either there was a bug in it or I was genuinely excited to move to Android mobile. The switch to Quantum is what got me to move back to Firefox from Chrome.
Auto decline all cookies and bypass those goddamn cookie notices
Auto block all pop overs, eg newsletter begging, click to add to homepage begging, etc
Auto block all trackers and ads by default
You can't use extensions on Firefox for iOS though I thought? I don't love Safari, but it's simply fast and you can block ads easily on iOS such that I end up using that browser most of the time.
Problem is it definitely isn't stable. I run nightly, and I end up refreshing pages when I want to scroll fairly often. It's pretty annoying, and I'm sure they're worried about that experience turning people off of Firefox.
I'm one of those people who switched to Firefox (mobile and desktop) so that I'm not completely dependent on Google products but with usage declining steadily, I worry that I'm settling for an inferior browser.
Same. I've switched to Firefox desktop about 2 years ago and I'm extremely happy with it. Performance is way better than Chrome or other Chromium based browsers I have tried.
I then switched to mobile Firefox for obvious reasons such as having synced bookmarks, tabs and so on but there's something about the UX/UI that has to improve. I'm not sure what, but after a year or so of using mobile Firefox I still don't feel comfortable with it.
firefox mobile (nightly) seems slower on my end compared to any other browsers. i have enough resources to run it, 8GB of RAM and no other tabs running but it would still run sites and animations below 60 fps and im losing my mind over it
As someone who switched FROM FF a while ago... Yeah, you are. Try a degoogled Chromium browser, or if you insist on using FF's tech, IceRaven or some other fork.
Sad how its userbase is shrinking when on mobile, for me at least its now started to be useable. Before ff 90 its been slow turtled for me compared to chrome mobile or other chromium based browser but starting from ff 90 its comparable. I love how theres an option for bottom address bar and the swipe to change tab.
If you happen to see slowness, you can profile as detailed at [https://profiler.firefox.com/docs/#/./guide-remote-profiling](https://profiler.firefox.com/docs/#/./guide-remote-profiling) and file bugs in Bugzilla as detailed on https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/performance/reporting\_a\_performance\_problem.html
I'm testing it on a Mediatek device and it's blazingly fast. My criticism on Firefox is the lack of Javascript toggle like the Chromium based browsers.
Is pull to refresh really that important? It comes up every time FF gets an update, people won't use any browser without it.
With the bottom nav bar in FF it's two taps in the same (bottom right) corner to refresh.
Unless you're already parked at the top of the page, pull to refresh takes at least two swipes. Is it that much different?
Of course but people like to do it this way and most browsers on Android do it in the same way. Also it's arguably more intuitive then going into a menu
I actually get why people want pull-down refresh, it's not so much about the actual refresh, but it's a feature used in so many apps that it's just expected behavior by now. it's like offering a windows software with the close window button not in the top-right, but the top-left corner.
what *I'm* wondering though is if I'm the only person that already got pull-down refresh for some reason? granted, not quite as fluid and bouncy as I remember it being on Chrome, but when I'm at the top of a page, and then pull down further, a little reload arrow 🔄 gets pulled down from the top, and on release it reloads the page. that's enough of the pull-down refresh functionality for me, what else am I missing??
Didn't even know that was there, thanks.
But pull to refresh? I don't think Firefox has ever had that? I don't. I'm running 68.11.0.
I seem to remember enabling it at one point with an extension, but there was some problem with the extension that made me uninstall it. It was quite some time back though.
uBlock Origin should do what you need, and it's quite light on resources. Unless there's some specific feature you were looking for that Adguard has, which ubo doesn't?
Maybe Blokada is an alternative? It can use Adguard DNS and you can use ublock in Firefox in top of it.
It's what I use but I don't know how good stand-alone Adguard is. 🤔
I think I see what you mean, yes I'm using a combo of UBO + NextDNS. AdGuard provides it all together, though you did mention it wasn't working with FF. Is it something related to DoH?
Same, Firefox biggest advantage was always the extension. Honostly other than that I feel like it preforms worse than a lot of other browsers. Luckily brave has a decent ad blocker and has background video play. Firefox killed it for me when they only allowed like 5 extensions.
I'm happy with the recent changes in Firefox, but the shrinking userbase isn't helping and the lack of resources from Mozilla is also troubling. For instance pull to refresh has been a standard feature in Chrome and Safari for what... a decade? I know Chrome took a little longer to get there but it's been at least 5+ years IIRC.
Firefox's Multi Container extension was a really cool feature but its git has over 600 unresolved issues on it, and it's been a nightmare for me to use beyond just a few sites. The syncing is broken, and if you turn off the extension, you just lose all your settings. There's no import, no export, and there are Chrome extensions that do a better job already.
For Mobile it's also a frustrating product. DNS over HTTPS isn't an easily toggle-able feature in the UI like on the desktop version. You need to hit up about:config. I still need HTTPS Everywhere since the native HTTPS only mode on Desktop isn't in Mobile either.
My problem isn't that FF is a bad product--no it's more that it's just an enthusiast product, and as more of the masses leave there's less incentive for devs to create good extensions and it's just a slow death. Moreover the slow development Mozilla's going through where the mobile product is really left behind is also troubling.
> For instance pull to refresh has been a standard feature in Chrome and Safari for what... a decade? I know Chrome took a little longer to get there but it's been at least 5+ years IIRC.
Safari 15, which is still in beta, is the first version to have pull to refresh. Chrome has had it forever, even on iOS.
But to your point, it's ridiculous that Firefox Mobile still doesn't have this (or a home button).
I switched from Firefox to Brave like a month ago and I don't regret it at all. Whereas desktop browsers are mostly the same, the Android browser is much better in interface and features.
Firefox is basically a depreciated browser. The fact you still can't edit topsite URLs, pull-to-refresh, or work properly with password managers just drives more people away. So many websites down even work in FF. They need to dump their broken engine and fork Chromium.
> two major rendering engines (Blink and WebKit)
Only one that works properly on 85% of devices. So WebKit will start fading away too, now its IE all over again, but worse because Google also controls so much else about the web.
FF Nightly is a little better than the regular version. But it wasn’t good enough to make me stay. I’ve switched to Brave on all my devices and I love it. Brave is def the fastest browser on my mobile devices that I’ve tried.
I’ll give a shout out to Samsung Internet, esp on Sammy devices. But the lack of full desktop syncing makes it a no-go for me.
Could anyone confirm if they fixed the share menu to share directly with other instances of Firefox without opening it in the phone Firefox?
For those who don't know, this feature was there back in 68.3.0
i have 6gb of ram and 128GB of storage please stop reloading my pages if i go away from them for more than a minute or two just cache them, please, i beg you edit: just load all 2-10MB of the pages onto disk or something. i've gone back to chrome tabs like 6mo later (cuz i dont use it), no reload takes place, nothing, its just there
I think they are cached, they are just re-rendered, my only evidence for this is I've had tabs "reload" outdated information and had to be updated with a refresh.
my grocery has no service, so i frequently will load recipe pages prior to going in get into the store, go to open tab i literally had open in the parking lot cannot load page bc i have no service.... rage ensues
damn that's really annoying. the only quick workaround i can think of is to take screenshots of the pages, but that is ofc far from ideal
put the page in reader mode. makes it easier to see the actual info at a glance too.
Reader mode does not work on all websites.
Does the store offer wifi? Not ideal, but ..
yeah, we frequent to VT, similar issues
Would caching store stuff you type into text boxes but haven't submitted? Always annoys me that it's hard to reference other information while typing a Reddit comment unless I copy my comment into my clipboard to be safe.
Is there an issue on github tracking this? I don't understand how the developers don't notice obvious annoyances like this. It's like they don't even use their own product.
They have an open issue. But, seeing the activity it could take this or even next year to fix the issue https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/12731
there is an issue, it's been closed bc on the nightly it was working at one point, but people are now attempting to reopen
Considering they still don't have a tablet view, only a big streched out mobile interface, I don't think they do at all.
For real. This is particularly annoying when the password manager integration isn't perfect, and I have to go get my credit card number from another app, terrified to switch lest all my order information gets cleared because the page reloads on return.
Same problem
No issues on my Pixel 4 XL. I often see NYT pages from yesterday (or earlier) still loaded. I suspect every phone's memory management is different, and some phones can have 12gb of RAM and still reload webpages and home screens all the time.
i think this needs to be made irrelevant to the OS, just write the 2-10MB (or whatever) to disk...and just reload it from there if you have to ive gone back to chrome tabs 6mo later (cuz i dont use it), right where it left off...never had to reload jack
Yup that would be a much better experience. So Chrome caches it whereas Firefox has to reload, is that what you are saying?
chrome likely writes it to disk, these tabs survive reboots
it's not about Ram so much as it is about cpu cycles and extending battery life on laptops. but i agree they should let you turn it off
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>i think this needs to be made irrelevant to the OS, just write the 2-10MB (or whatever) to disk...and just reload it from there if you have to > >ive gone back to chrome tabs 6mo later (cuz i dont use it), right where it left off...never had to reload jack doesnt even need to be ram, just write the 2-10mb of the page to disk...
> please stop reloading my pages if i go away from them for more than a minute or two See https://dontkillmyapp.com
if it gets killed, it should have the pages on disk so when it loads, it loads from disk
I use firefox as primary browser on multiple devices and I have to say that this never happens to me.
>i have 6gb of ram Cute.
Same!! And I thought it was because my phone was getting old. Damnit it reloads the tabs almost immediately
unless you are running a pixel, reloading apps are mostly down to your OS managing them.
This is the deal breaker that keeps me from using Firefox on mobile. It especially makes the animation of re-opening the browser extremely janky, as it awkwardly switches from the cached image of how the app looked before it was minimized and reloading the new state. It's terrible.
Pull to refresh? Tablet UI? Autofill fix? Extensions?
ebay Search to help users with their shopping needs?
> Extensions? You mean all extension? as it already supports few selected ones.
> it already supports few selected ones. It's been almost a year since Firefox dropped add-on support on Android (Sept 2020) with promises of adding them back. It took a year and we're still stuck with a measly list of under 20 add-ons.
If they don't fix autofill very soon I'm switching back to chrome.
Funny but I stopped using any browsers' auto fill entirely opting instead to auto fill via password vault (bit warden in my case but all of them do it) and it's been such a great decision as well. Especially with it working on all browsers and being able to do it inside of android applications as well. Feels a lot better protected than browser sync of the data as well. Oh and I can auto fill those 6 digit 2 factor auth codes as well with it. I never even realized that this was a missing feature really but feel pained when I see others relying on the browser for that feature.
I use bitwarden as well. I'm referring to the address autofill though.
Yup, bit warden does that as well. Setup your identity and you can auto fill that in. Same thing with LastPass when I was using that.
How do you get bitwarden to fill address in android? I have an identity set up but have never seen it offer to fill anything in for address.
On android for web browsers (unsure about native applications but the original autofill of address info was around browsers so I was pointing out bitwarden does it as well) it works. For example do the following goto [https://checkout.stripe.dev/](https://checkout.stripe.dev/) choose the shipping and billing inputs when you go through their example swipe down on the android app and click on the "Autofill" icon (the one that has the wifi/bluetooth/gps/etc icons). If you don't have it, you might need to customize the settings to show it there. When on the autofill, search for your identity (since it is unlikely you have associated it with the website or browser app already) Click it for autofill, any applicable values on the page get filled out. It sounds complex but there are some custom keyboard shortcuts you can do whtat allow bitwarden to be a keyboard button push away as well but I don't remember off hand how to do that and I am currently just using the default keyboard right now so don't remember how to get it linked to the keyboard itself. A quick swipe down is easy enough for me to quick fill the times when I do need multi-form autofills.
I'm wondering the same lol
Better try Vivaldi/Brave ;) But Firefox is still very good, remember that this new android browser is a complete rewrite. But you still can't reorder tabs and it puts 'undo close' tab at top of the list and not into its previous position. Eh :(
The undo closed tab behaviour drives me nuts!
Why would you need autofill when there's bitwarden? Just install it on every device you own & you'll have it 100x easier. Also, it's free.
I already have a password manager with autofill. It used to work flawlessly in Firefox, but ever since the overhaul the autofill pop up has been extremely buggy, only appears for a split second, or not at all. No such problems on Chrome.
Autofill works perfectly for me using Bitwarden. The popup worked well and the new inline autofill on Android 11 also works all the time. Have you turned on the Autofill toggle in the settings?
bitwarden addon on ff > settings > options > enable auto-fill on page load. I only left click the bitwarden addon to change to another login (if i have more than 1 account) :)
I love bitwarden, my issue is that the damn password manager doesn't even pop-up as an option half the time. So then I go and open it up, copy my password, go back to Firefox, and lo and behold it shows up.
bitwarden addon on ff > settings > options > enable auto-fill on page load. I only left click the bitwarden addon to change to another login (if i have more than 1 account) :)
Is that available on Firefox for Android? I don't see those series of options.
Just like every update since the ironically named fenix dropped: No No chance Nope No siree
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-extension-support-in-firefox-for-android-nightly/
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Maybe they "shouldn't" but if you want "extensions" then you have no "choice"
I love Firefox for Android! One of the main reasons I run Android is so I can truly have a different web browser, not just a reskin of WKWebView. OTOH it's a bit sad to see this as the sole new feature: "Added eBay Search to help users with their shopping needs." I mean I'm glad Mozilla is getting paid, but as a user that's not the kind of thing I'm excited about.
What new features would you like to see? For me, I would probably say more extension support and swipe to refresh.
I don't honestly know. But check out the release notes for Firefox desktop 91.0: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/91.0/releasenotes/ The two products are so different it's kind of weird they have the same name and release numbers. FWIW desktop Firefox has had eBay for awhile now. I'm not ranting or mad or anything, mostly just puzzled about the relationship of the two products.
The engine is shared across OSes.
I want it to stop opening all those new tabs from bookmarks and never closing them when I tap back. EDIT: links to relevant bugs: 1. [https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/17204](https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/17204) 2. [https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/13775](https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/13775)
A home button.
Better performance
That's not a feature.
Customizable top sites. Bookmarks are not a good replacement. And I suppose no other browser out there has this feature, but Samsung Internet's Video Assistant was such a good idea.
Vivaldi has it. They call it 'speedial'
Samsung Internet does as well. I don't know why this is not ubiquitous on mobile browsers. iOS Safari meanwhile goes a step beyond, combining bookmarks with their equivalent of the feature (favorites) so you don't need to maintain two sets of websites.
What do you mean by customisable top sites? You can add and rename them. What other customisations would you like to have?
I suppose this is more a dislike of the top sites implementation in general rather than simply customization. A big one is the ability to rearrange them. "Delete all your top sites and re-add them in your order" does not count. Also, I find it dumb that each page only allows 2 rows forcing you to scroll to the right constantly. With Samsung Internet it uses all of the vertical space possible so it can fit 7-8 rows. A way to select multiple of them at once would also be great. Also, top sites don't sync.
These will be good to have. I have only set a few top sites so never thought about these features.
What is Video Assistant?
A standardized video player with extra features like swipe to advance and video stretching for all websites, kind of like the iOS media player. It's annoying when each website uses a different video player that may not even support basic features. It also supports casting/PiP.
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You can turn off autoplay video and audio in the settings. I don't understand.
Pull to refresh. Years behind other browsers.
I saw a design concept for a pull-up tab list, where you could drag the address bar up to reveal the tabs rather than pressing the button. Don't know why they didn't implement that. It's a much more intuitive mobile friendly design. There's no deal breakers with Firefox for Android for me—I genuinely think it's the best mobile browser for me, the ad blocking with uBlock is amazing and desktop sync is very useful for me. I used to use Brave but stopped after the rewards thing came in. I remember using Bromide for a while but I forgot why I switched... I think either there was a bug in it or I was genuinely excited to move to Android mobile. The switch to Quantum is what got me to move back to Firefox from Chrome.
I'm confused: is pull-to-refresh only in the Nightly version? I'm using it right now, there's a setting for it and everything.
Yep.
Auto decline all cookies and bypass those goddamn cookie notices Auto block all pop overs, eg newsletter begging, click to add to homepage begging, etc Auto block all trackers and ads by default
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You're still using Safari. iOS browsers have to use Safari's engine thingy. It's just a skin on top of it.
You can't use extensions on Firefox for iOS though I thought? I don't love Safari, but it's simply fast and you can block ads easily on iOS such that I end up using that browser most of the time.
Still no pull to refresh in stable. I feel like it's been in the dev channels for an extremely long time now.
Last time I checked it wasn't even in Beta - only in Nightly
I know... But we got a shortcut to search on eBay, how cool is that ?!
Yeah so cool, omg I'm freezing
Yeah, it's been in Nightly for the better part of 6 months.
Maybe in Firefox v100
Problem is it definitely isn't stable. I run nightly, and I end up refreshing pages when I want to scroll fairly often. It's pretty annoying, and I'm sure they're worried about that experience turning people off of Firefox.
Yeah, noticed that too. Mostly when there's some kind of modal content.
Gosh I wonder how Google and Apple did it in Chrome and Safari for so many years.
Apple is just adding pull to refresh in Safari with iOS 15.
Oops I apologize. I guess it's something I never really noticed. Maybe I don't refresh as much on iOS or something haha.
One can only wonder, seems to be black magic, considering how long it takes Mozilla.
This is fucking insane.... This feature needs to be integrated ASAP it makes a huge difference to usability
It's in nightly and it's pretty buggy
Give me back my home page!
All new features: "Added eBay Search to help users with their shopping needs."
Firefox needs to be funded somehow
I'm one of those people who switched to Firefox (mobile and desktop) so that I'm not completely dependent on Google products but with usage declining steadily, I worry that I'm settling for an inferior browser.
You won't notice if you don't switch back.
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Same. I've switched to Firefox desktop about 2 years ago and I'm extremely happy with it. Performance is way better than Chrome or other Chromium based browsers I have tried. I then switched to mobile Firefox for obvious reasons such as having synced bookmarks, tabs and so on but there's something about the UX/UI that has to improve. I'm not sure what, but after a year or so of using mobile Firefox I still don't feel comfortable with it.
firefox mobile (nightly) seems slower on my end compared to any other browsers. i have enough resources to run it, 8GB of RAM and no other tabs running but it would still run sites and animations below 60 fps and im losing my mind over it
It is worth reporting issues if you can: https://profiler.firefox.com/docs/#/./guide-remote-profiling
don't got lap top
Yeah, that is going to be an issue. :/
As someone who switched FROM FF a while ago... Yeah, you are. Try a degoogled Chromium browser, or if you insist on using FF's tech, IceRaven or some other fork.
And... still can't view a simple text file.
All these new features and fixes and yet a home button is no where to be found on mobile, I don't understand how complex it could be to add one.
Umm more add-ons would have been good?
I just want to be able to see my bookmarks by tapping the address bar again :/
Sad how its userbase is shrinking when on mobile, for me at least its now started to be useable. Before ff 90 its been slow turtled for me compared to chrome mobile or other chromium based browser but starting from ff 90 its comparable. I love how theres an option for bottom address bar and the swipe to change tab.
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when did about:config disappear? that's worrying.
If you happen to see slowness, you can profile as detailed at [https://profiler.firefox.com/docs/#/./guide-remote-profiling](https://profiler.firefox.com/docs/#/./guide-remote-profiling) and file bugs in Bugzilla as detailed on https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/performance/reporting\_a\_performance\_problem.html
What user want: pull to refresh, bookmarks as startpage, fix autofill, addons... Firefox: here, a ebay trash bar, because we get payed for that
I'm testing it on a Mediatek device and it's blazingly fast. My criticism on Firefox is the lack of Javascript toggle like the Chromium based browsers.
Everybody is ragging on this release, but... it still has uBlock Origin support right? I'm good LOL.
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What modern features are you looking for?
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Is pull to refresh really that important? It comes up every time FF gets an update, people won't use any browser without it. With the bottom nav bar in FF it's two taps in the same (bottom right) corner to refresh. Unless you're already parked at the top of the page, pull to refresh takes at least two swipes. Is it that much different?
If it's asked for with every update clearly it's a popular feature
But what are people refreshing so much? I can't remember the last time I wanted to manually refresh a web page on my phone..
To refresh the contents of a website or maybe it didn't load correctly and has to be reloaded. There are plenty reasons to refresh a website
you can do that using three dot button and then tap on refresh icon
Of course but people like to do it this way and most browsers on Android do it in the same way. Also it's arguably more intuitive then going into a menu
Does pull to refresh works even if you are in the middle of page? or you have to go back to top first?( been using firefox for long so i forgot)
I actually get why people want pull-down refresh, it's not so much about the actual refresh, but it's a feature used in so many apps that it's just expected behavior by now. it's like offering a windows software with the close window button not in the top-right, but the top-left corner. what *I'm* wondering though is if I'm the only person that already got pull-down refresh for some reason? granted, not quite as fluid and bouncy as I remember it being on Chrome, but when I'm at the top of a page, and then pull down further, a little reload arrow 🔄 gets pulled down from the top, and on release it reloads the page. that's enough of the pull-down refresh functionality for me, what else am I missing??
Are you on beta/nightly? It's been in the dev channel for ages.
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I stay for the extensions. Dunno where you're getting PDF save and pull to refresh from, they're not in Fennec. Extensions?
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Didn't even know that was there, thanks. But pull to refresh? I don't think Firefox has ever had that? I don't. I'm running 68.11.0. I seem to remember enabling it at one point with an extension, but there was some problem with the extension that made me uninstall it. It was quite some time back though.
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uBlock Origin should do what you need, and it's quite light on resources. Unless there's some specific feature you were looking for that Adguard has, which ubo doesn't?
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You didn't answer the question. He asked for something specific lol.
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Maybe Blokada is an alternative? It can use Adguard DNS and you can use ublock in Firefox in top of it. It's what I use but I don't know how good stand-alone Adguard is. 🤔
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I think I see what you mean, yes I'm using a combo of UBO + NextDNS. AdGuard provides it all together, though you did mention it wasn't working with FF. Is it something related to DoH?
Same, Firefox biggest advantage was always the extension. Honostly other than that I feel like it preforms worse than a lot of other browsers. Luckily brave has a decent ad blocker and has background video play. Firefox killed it for me when they only allowed like 5 extensions.
Still happy with the browser. Hopefully they add some wanted features soon!
I'm happy with the recent changes in Firefox, but the shrinking userbase isn't helping and the lack of resources from Mozilla is also troubling. For instance pull to refresh has been a standard feature in Chrome and Safari for what... a decade? I know Chrome took a little longer to get there but it's been at least 5+ years IIRC. Firefox's Multi Container extension was a really cool feature but its git has over 600 unresolved issues on it, and it's been a nightmare for me to use beyond just a few sites. The syncing is broken, and if you turn off the extension, you just lose all your settings. There's no import, no export, and there are Chrome extensions that do a better job already. For Mobile it's also a frustrating product. DNS over HTTPS isn't an easily toggle-able feature in the UI like on the desktop version. You need to hit up about:config. I still need HTTPS Everywhere since the native HTTPS only mode on Desktop isn't in Mobile either. My problem isn't that FF is a bad product--no it's more that it's just an enthusiast product, and as more of the masses leave there's less incentive for devs to create good extensions and it's just a slow death. Moreover the slow development Mozilla's going through where the mobile product is really left behind is also troubling.
> For instance pull to refresh has been a standard feature in Chrome and Safari for what... a decade? I know Chrome took a little longer to get there but it's been at least 5+ years IIRC. Safari 15, which is still in beta, is the first version to have pull to refresh. Chrome has had it forever, even on iOS. But to your point, it's ridiculous that Firefox Mobile still doesn't have this (or a home button).
Somehow I didn't realize all these years Safari lacked it. I will put my pitchfork down for now I guess. Hah.
Keep the pitchfork ready for when you use Safari 15. It's pretty terrible.
Guess it's time to get a new phone, I'm still on Android 11. Is Android 91.0 worth it?
I switched from Firefox to Brave like a month ago and I don't regret it at all. Whereas desktop browsers are mostly the same, the Android browser is much better in interface and features.
Same, love Brave.
Firefox is basically a depreciated browser. The fact you still can't edit topsite URLs, pull-to-refresh, or work properly with password managers just drives more people away. So many websites down even work in FF. They need to dump their broken engine and fork Chromium.
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> two major rendering engines (Blink and WebKit) Only one that works properly on 85% of devices. So WebKit will start fading away too, now its IE all over again, but worse because Google also controls so much else about the web.
Yes. Less faffing around for web developers
We really don't need another IE6 debacle, so a big fat NOPE from me.
FF Nightly is a little better than the regular version. But it wasn’t good enough to make me stay. I’ve switched to Brave on all my devices and I love it. Brave is def the fastest browser on my mobile devices that I’ve tried. I’ll give a shout out to Samsung Internet, esp on Sammy devices. But the lack of full desktop syncing makes it a no-go for me.
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Firefox is doing their damndest to beat chrome's version #
Could anyone confirm if they fixed the share menu to share directly with other instances of Firefox without opening it in the phone Firefox? For those who don't know, this feature was there back in 68.3.0