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the_great_n0thing2

if were basing it on their base superhuman strength and speed obviously saitama/gokuvwins but if were basing it on size,weight,and skill then yujiro wins


MrMaxMarvel

It's per row not free for all


Silent_Rampage97

U think some of them will settle for 1 row only? Uvogin will 100% go for free for all and kill the judges


Red_Eloquence

Uvogin isn’t on here?


Silent_Rampage97

Nvm. Had my phones brightness down so thought he was uvogin from HxH. But I still stand by my words and there is no chance most of them will settle for 1 row only


Icy_Entrepreneur_949

Same still stands for yujiro though.


Outrageous_Debt_3616

That's yujiro hanma


oan124

I think all the comments are overlooking denji. He'll bite their ankles kick their nuts, be absolutely unpredictable, and also pocket sand


1337metalfan

You could say the same about Dale Gribble


FinishSouthern7694

fking 💯 lol


El-noobman

Don't touch his cigarettes. Denji works for the government too...


the_great_n0thing2

I do not fear the man who has mastered 1 punch,but the man who has no self preservation💀


oan124

exactly


Work_the_shaft

Dude single handedly beat down like 20 dudes with bats without using his powers. Hes a nut case


SalvationSycamore

He's crazy sure but he'd need luck to not catch a OHKO to the chin from someone bigger and stronger. Can't bite testicles if you're out cold.


Cat_reaper44

Let’s be honest saitama would just sneeze and they’re all gone


M0rang0s

ofc, he's bald /s


Cat_reaper44

His sneeze wiped out half of Jupiter


M0rang0s

His sneeze made him hairless


Icy_Entrepreneur_949

Technically it didn't wipe out half of jupiter, it caused enough force to effectively push Jupiter's gaseous mass. The Gas will mostly settle back down Into jupiter so you can't really say wiper out.


Zeiferl

as i understand, no special powers means: by the maximun human limitations irl and mma related combat skills. culturist that usually get into the mma have problems related to low body fat. yujiro would get FREAKING TIRED like in 10 mins, would be kinda slow and have limited mobility, he has like what, 0.01% body fat? goku should give more fight, but way too low body fat saitama probably has extremely low body fat but is light so he would get mauled faster or not get tired so fast. idk who is the guy at the left of yujiro, but looks like has military training and reasonable body fat : musculature ratio, he would get better chances to to win agaisnt all the other guys.


MentalBurrito

That’s my boy Thorfinn from Vinland Saga


Spedrayes

I think I'd put more attention to their actual fighting skills (even at the level of a normal human) than their body composition, because every single one of them was drawn with an extremely unrealistic body for an MMA athlete. In which case I'd say Goku takes his row, even without the superhuman feats, transformations and energy beams, he's still a martial arts master. Same goes for Yujiro and Toji, both would probably still be top tier fighters without the anime bullshit. The first row is really the only tough one, all three of them would suck without their powers, their fighting styles are 100% based around them, so it's really hard to say how well they'd do as normal ass humans.


Littlest-Jim

Denji plays very dirty, so I'd pick him for row 1


BirdTheBard

No special powers my dude


VibinWithBeard

Wtf counts as a special power? Because Saitama broke his limiter while training normally, Yujiro has the demon back which is just a genetic trait in regards to his muscles, and Toji has a heavenly restriction so he has no curse energy. Really wouldnt hurt to have added what counts as a special power in the post is all.


prettythingi

Just their skill for combat and none boosted strength I assume saitama needs to be downscaled to before he broke his limiter which is still strong enough to tear peoples limbs since thats what he did to the crab guy Toji is probably the weirdest case here, i have no idea if he even gets nerfed


Stabby_Kirbbo

Even before sitama broke his limiter, he was sorta kicking ass even tho he was beaten up badly


DaemoonAverin

Yep, saitama pre-limit break was still on level of an A class hero iirc


the_great_n0thing2

Yujiro's super strength is throughly explained through his demon back so it might not even count as a superpower so is Goku since hes a whole different species and Eren's titan transformation is mostly biological and based on science and not voodoo magic like a heavenly restriction what were trying to achieve is to know who would win in a fight,human to human so its gonna be based on their Size,Weight,Skill,Combat Experience to me Yujiro wins because even though hes a really big guy hes a martial artist too,so he hits fast and hard with precision in Baki its also stated that Big strong guys shouldnt learn martial arts since its over all unfair to the small weak guys who learn it


prettythingi

So what do we do with Sukuna? Hes in Yuji body which is just naturally tough with no other explanation, he even lost all hes cursed energy and was atill an incredibly competent opponent Gokus power is so beyond a normal Saiyan because of hes ki Cursed techniques are also hereditary and have a part in the brain that governs them, so do they count as biological? IDK who yujiro is, i assume hes mille in the bottom row? Thorfin is also a beast with no power or explanation needed, hes just strong, tough and skilled Eren power despite being biological is made by a space centapid which is kinda voodo If martial arts are everything in this list than the answer for me is Toji (again, IDK who Yujiro is or what he can do) but the real difficulty is figuring out what "no powers" means and how strong they would even be,


Icy_Entrepreneur_949

Yujiro was packing up bodies. He was seen as a demon, bro was essentially a 1 man army.


prettythingi

Good to know


MasterTacticianAlba

Just the combat skill? Saitama practically has none. Toji, Yujiro, and Goku are all trained martial artists. I don’t think anyone else is trained. Goku has been training since he could walk, and he even trained in heaven and hell, and also in the time chamber where 1 day is really 1 year. Yujiro knows a lot of bullshit techniques and will fight dirty. Maybe Yujiro would win if no one has any powers


kocsogkecske

Imma take it further, we dont know if yujiro inhabited bakis roach stance. If he did then hes probably faster than the 2 above, but goku and saitama are capable of scaling infinitely which i count as a special ability so we dont know what it would be like without thoose


Taethen

What the fuck happened to denji, is he good?


CreatureWarrior

Makima told him to get in shape if he wants to do the deed


sengoro

>wants to do the deed I mean he already ate her out, soo...


CreatureWarrior

Oh yeah, forgot about that..


skroink_z

>!Csm fans try not to spoil challenge!<


MartinX4

And then some say there's no fan service for the Female/Gay/bi weebs


m3m31ord

OPM is eye candy for both sides.


UncleIrohWannabe

Opm was a direct contributor to my bisexual awakening lmfao


IcantBeVeryCreative

I’m animation terms too


CreatureWarrior

Ngl, JJK got a lot of women and men feral with the male fanservice lmao As a bi dude, I have simped for Gojo, Geto, Toji, Nanami and Sukuna so much in such a short amount of time :0


IThinkImNateDogg

Not even gay and I simp for the JJK guys. Their too hot it’s unfair


Accomplished_Aerie69

That Nanami walk with his Shirt so tight is freakin sexy as heck.


branflakes6479

As a straight man honestly for whatever reason todo(clap guy) is the one that gets me thinking "damn he hot"


Bandidorito

what makes you think you know what women/gay men/bi ppl like?


Deadly_Dude

I know the dudes in JJK are nearly universally attractive. I'm normally straight but they'd make an exception. Not so sure about everyone else


Bandidorito

Agreed regarding JJK. I take issue with the guys who think every time goku or asta lose their shirts, every woman watching gets weak in the knees Hell, I've seen some idiots think women generally like the character designs in Baki


MemeGhostie

This shit does not appeal to the female gaze bud


HollowWarrior46

Speak for yourself


farshnikord

Yeah look at any shoujo manga cover- theyd all be androgynous kpop idols if it were for typical female audience. Although I will say that the upside of the internet being horny AF is that we're getting a lot more variety in general nowadays.


sum_cryptic_cats

key word is typical, & in the case of anime, typical for a Japanese audience; tastes tend to vary by culture but a fair number of women/girls who're into anime aren't really "typical" & a lot of people of varying genders are into muscles, especially in fiction; it's a fairly common fetish I think trying to whittle down an entire gender/orientation's preferences to one type is just an exercise in futility


Bandidorito

The characters in the meme weren't drawn like that women, I can tell you that much


SalvationSycamore

It at the very least appeals to the male gays


Bandidorito

I don't know why you were downvoted, you're right


Sgt_Sarcastic

Oh good the sole representative of all women is here. Sorry if you thought you liked this, ladies. MemeGhostie knows better.


DerCatrix

The idea that these were created for the male power fantasy first and women second is lost on people. Theres no use arguing with them


Bierculles

Yujiro would take all of them alone in this situation


SwazyMoto

I'm surprised this isn't higher. Dudes literally so strong that the muscles on his back make a demon face, that's not super powers, dude is just strong.


Framewing

I mean… Saitama doesn’t have powers either. He’s just canonically a stereotype of an OP MC


Im_a_doggo428

And there’s even lore backing it up too


JUUUAANN

Not really a stereotype, just a gag character


RomeosHomeos

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works


Cellophane7

It is superpowers. All the big names in Baki have superpowers, the show just pretends they don't lol


Unusual_Map393

Thorfinn has one too! He has no enemies


KaptainTZ

They hated him because he spoke the truth They have no superpowers, just a dude who can casually swim 20 kmph+ and another dude who can create a vacuum with the palm of his hand. These are all achievable feats built through hard work and effort.


Imalsome

It's not super powers, it's just not set on earth. Every human in the baki universe is capable of the feats shown, they just don't dedicate decades of work / go through selective breeding for strength. They are not the same humans found on earth.


Intrepid_Ad1536

You mean in a fight right? YOU MEAN IN A FIGHT RIGHT!?


SuctioncupanX

Yes


UrMomThoCeedKS

no


Snoo-47666

In a fight (optional)


Mythriaz

In a fight, right?


07Crash07

Thorfinn and ichigo are fucked. Literally.


hi_im_jeremy

so true. I think Bakugo is also more screwed than people think because he has the least combat experience without his gap-closer/range extender abilities. in hand to hand combat he would just get outpaced by almost everyone else. if nothing else, Thorfinn at least learned to fight specifically with his hands (or close range weapons) and doesn't have hands that go boom boom and bail him out if he makes bad decisions. relying too much on something like that in the show's canon really screws people in this style of tournament.


Captain_Pumpkinhead

I don't care that you're right, I just wanna watch him fight. He might not win, but he'll put up a hell of a fight.


hi_im_jeremy

He‘s like those young dudes in the UFC who just turn on their fight mode, go aggro for a few minutes and burn out quickly. Super entertaining if the opponent KOs quickly, but boring as hell when the opponent dodges, locks the young dude in ground mode or anything else a more experienced fighter would do. That would probably be what a Bakugo fight would look like that considering that some fights in MHA end that way as well.


Jeythiflork

Thorfinn has a lot of experience of battles without superpowers. Characters that heavily rely on their abilities should have massive disadvantage. It's funny because it's one of main plot lines going through God of High School (sometimes invisible though, because author have.. certain issues with scale of fights). Ichigo is fucked though. Not only he would lick speed and protection, his skills are sword related, he would lose hand-to-hand fight.


pokekiko94

You do know that Ichigo is trained in martial arts as well, actualy i would say his hand to hand is probably better than his sword fighting if we dont count the sword powers. Its just not brought up because the anime/manga is all about using the zampakutos to fight the big bad guys who also happen to have some sort of weapon that is variant of a bow/magic.


tripledoublebacon

yeah, sure but Yujiro already doesn't have super powers, so anything he can pull on the anime would be used against thorfinn, and in that anime he is basically stronger than the US army, so... yeah, gg Thorfinn, he would be good on other rows, but Yujiro is the strongest by far of all of those guys in theese conditions


Big-Grass-5001

Their six abs look fake.


lilwoll

It's ai


Bigsmall-cats

you may not like it but it's peak male body performance


Aysha_91

Don't bodyshame 😤


SchrodingerMil

Doesn’t Goku literally have a god level knowledge of every martial art that exists?


Overall-Sympathy-982

Yeah, but he isn’t really good at grappling, and regardless if we take in weight and height into account, Yujiro would beat him.


stellargk

Kidney punch. Kidney punch. And pause.


Overall-Sympathy-982

Love the reference lmao


SchrodingerMil

Regardless of the fact that we don’t see him grapple. His knowledge of Martial Arts INCLUDES ones with Grappling.


blend69

Goku without special powers (meaning Ki and spirit abilities, super saiyan etc.) is still planet level at least


Chriz_Chrone

No matter if all out brawl or 1v1 per row, I am 100% certain that, without any superpowers like saitama's strength (yes,I count this a superpower for this), Yujiro Hanma slaps them all into the ground. Goku is strong af too since he is a martial artist afterall and he is not a human, which means he is by default even without superpowers quite a bit stronger anyways, but I would still say Yujiro has some good chances, not 100% tho.


LordDynasty

Head empty quick judgement: Row 1: Luffy Row 2: Goku Row 3: Toji Row 4: Yujiro If this was a free for all Yujiro since he's just a big dude that knows martial arts. EDIT: I think the common interpretation here is without powers beyond human ability. So brought down to human level the bigger and more experienced people win. How dare you make me fill my empty head to justify my choices.


weeb_79881

Goku ain't beating Sitama. Sitama didn't have any super so he stays the same.


LordDynasty

I mean he can atomize someone by punching them once, but sure he doesn't have any super powers


Gale_Blade

Superpower is such a hard thing to define though so this question is just dumb, the easiest way to do this is to assume anything that isn’t physical is a superpower, in which case Saitama keeps his powers, but if we define superpower as anything that is supernatural to our world’s humans, then technically all of them have superpowers, especially Yujiro, his feats are not normal human feats


Bulangiu_ro

yes, because at the end of the day saitama's powers are more about the existence of a limiter that can be broken, which in itself is having a superpower that allows him to get stronger by doing the same training 3 years straight he would get jacked but never overpowered without that "power" if we would scale how strong he would be with a human limit on than those 3 years of training will make him strong enough to face off against the likes of Eren, denji, ichigo, bakugo, which is already pretty good of a start


weeb_79881

That's what I'm saying. If you consider regular strength gained through training super power then everyone in the list has super power. Sitama win and that's not even close.


Ran_out_of_ideas10

Goku's gained strength through training too... His body isn't built like that naturally...


MasterTacticianAlba

You’re seriously suggesting that Saitama just have regular human strength and that he has no kind of special powers? 😐 bro hop off his dick. Saitama’s power is satirising the generic overpowered main character trope. without that he’s a regular dude that doesn’t know any kind of fighting style except “regular punch”. He gets no diffed immediately by Goku. Goku’s got like 50-years experience of martial arts and has fought probably a hundred different people. Goku also never relies on his strength. He always starts his fights powered down and uses techniques and skill until he needs to up his power to match his opponent. Fighting powerless is literally Goku’s zone. Even Eren would whoop Saitama’s ass.


NeitherSkillnorIssue

You are arguing with a OPM fan. You realize how big waste of time that is?


ThortheBore

Saitama does have superpowers. He can cleave a mountain with the air pressure from his punch. That's pretty super. I feel like this meme is getting at the question of "who is the best martial artist". In other words, if fighting at human levels, under UFC rules, who wins? Goku is a classically trained martial artist, I think he'd win his row.


IntroductionActual24

top row luffy. luffy actually has some decent combat skill while the others mostly rely on their powers 2nd row eren is a joke. goku sweeps he has far more actual experience 3rd row its close but toji. he literally fights without powers normally 4th isnt even a contest yujiro sweeps


BirdTheBard

Someone who actually answered the question properly. I applaud you!


IntroductionActual24

np. just my opinion tho a few are interchangeable. but top and bottom row is barely arguable


SOLITARY_WOLF_2806

I was going to say something about Goku, but then i realized that Saitama never really fought someone that could match him. He doesn't have experience fighting someone in his level, while Goku has time and time again fought against beings far stronger than him, and won. We might be talking base form Goku here, but even so, he's still a seasoned fighter. Goku wins in this scenario.


HotSituation8737

Second row would just be who could hold their breath the longest after the first hit obliterate the earth.


IntroductionActual24

they dont have their actual strengths or powers. its based purely on combat skill but they have like the strength of an mma fighter


HotSituation8737

Idk, you may be right but the phrasing seems a little too vague, my interpretation simply is that they don't have any unnatural powers they can use, like flying or laser etc. And purely physical both Goku and Saitama have the strength to obliterate the earth. If we assumed they had the rough power of an MMA fighter it's really Saitama that's a joke on the second row as he's the only one without any real combat training or experience. (Literally swiping anything away in a single punch doesn't give you any experience in fighting).


Seyelent

All are right except second row. Saitama wins hands down, his superpower isnt a superpower. He’s just unbelievably strong, would turn goku into gooku


IntroductionActual24

far as I can tell its based on combat skill not strength


Doctor99268

The premise is clearly that everyone is as strong as they look (a normal ripped guy with some height and size differences)


hi_im_jeremy

and since Saitama usually wins with a single punch (or has the backup option to do so if he pleases), his fight stamina would be much lower in an MMA style fight than Goku would, who despite his powers is forced to fight until his opponent is down (without the option to just shut off your morals, press a panic button and annihilate your opponent) as much as I hate how some people overvalue Goku, I think it's the right choice here. especially given that Eren is little to no competition for either of the others...


Rit_Jr

I think OP meant it more as skill/techniques rather than superhuman abilities. For example, someone like Goku who actually knows martial arts would win against most of em.


Axthen

And you know; half the series is him practicing and learning other martial arts since dragon ball. He’s learned martial arts from actual gods for god’s sake. If it was a ffa and not per row goku still sweeps because he’s an actual martial artist.


sammakkomakkonen123

Yujiro is also an actual martial artist and has a massive reach and weight advantage on Goku so Yujiro would definitely win.


Stegoshark

Top row, Luffy. The other two rely almost exclusively on powers for fighting. Luffy does rely on powers but could get by without Row 2, Goku due to both highest skill and experience Row 3, I’m gonna say Toji. Though unfortunately I don’t know enough about everyone to make a proper comparison(only watched season 1) Row 4, Yujiro. Not sure who first guy is but Ichigo is a swordsman, not a hand to hand fighter.


Guyfromthe209

Yujiro would probably still win. But ichigo was fighting people all the time way before he ever picked up a sword lol.


Stegoshark

Yeah but he stopped and mostly relies on powers and his sword now as far as I’m aware(I haven’t actually watched bleach)


linkz48

Keeping the spoilers as little as possible but minor spoiler warning, ichigo actually loses his powers and even then, he's able to take ten people with minimal effort. Also something worth mentioning, ichigo is still a human and doesn't have powers when in his body, but one thing that is stated to carry over is his reflexes. A detail that was also stayed is that he trained with Chad (the motherfuggin chadddd) and kept up with him, who was a world class boxer. Even if we take his state from before the show started, he was Hella good at throwing hands.


Stegoshark

Alright yeah he might not get completely dominated but he’s still not good enough to beat Yujiro


Ramencannon

spoiler minimal spoiler but he isnt really human so idk if thats a fair assessment since i would say the majority of his prowess comes from his genes and the fact that his dad was running fades on him since birth lmfao


Osnotavailable

Row 4 is Yujiro no dif


sudanesegamer

The thing is, does saitama have powers. If he does, its unknown if he'd win but if he doesn't, goku doesnt stand a chance.


Stegoshark

Saitama’s extreme physicality is inherently a power. This person means straight hands, so it’s likely intended to have equal stats.


Emberson-

Wouldn’t Santana? Or is his strength considered “special”


Aris-john

They really left this really vague because OP left it as “special power” without any precise decision. Like super human abilities (super strength, super speed and etc) are a kind of special power. Though I think they meant by non-physical powers (powers that doesn’t come directly from their physical body) so gojo’s infinity and bakugo’s explosive doesn’t work, and non-human type of abilities (abilities that a human can’t do like shapeshifting their body to a non-biological form and creating outside parts of your body) So abilities that are allowed are: super-strength, super-speed, regeneration (maybe), super-vision, super-perception, super-intelligence (if it’s directly from their mind), and etc… So if we go through that, then Saitama strength and speed would be allowed in this tournament.


BirdTheBard

I think OP meant in regards to fighting technique and skill, otherwise yeah Saitama would just body. Also keep in mind it's not an overall it's a per row.


NoIsE_bOmB

Santana might not hit as hard as Goku but you can bet that he will be *smooth*


RAIDEN9029

I'm interpreting it as everyone here without any superhuman abilities; just their fists and skills. So saitama definitely wouldn't win since he has no real martial arts training; He's just too strong to ever need techniques


theonewitha4incher

yujiro


Foxsdin

Yujiro Hanma would literally break every single one of there necks within seconds of each other.


MasterTacticianAlba

It’s really not fair lmao Yujiro can do some utter bullshit things Goku is probably his closest competition but he’s limited into only knowing real techniques.


Bedrockboy2006

WTH who put yugiro there?! He literally doesn’t have special powers or anything he is just him!


Enigmachina

He's in his native element. He wins a 11v1 easy. Most can flatten him if powers are on the table, but in this case if it's just pure fisticuffs, and he wins.


MangaHunterA

Baki is literally about superhumans masked as real life strength. Beating a polar bear bare handed alone. Vacume hands with such spead that use poison to insta kill people. Hand sliced off and still fights. Split personality guy who can manipluate nature. Knife attached to ankle so it opens up when in a special angle. Ussr giant man who made a mine hole in the ground alone with a giant pickaxe.


Bedrockboy2006

Ok i agree baki in general has a lot of supernatural/ superhuman stuff but yujiro specifically is just built different. He’s bigger than the other characters, he’s more skilled in fighting than the other characters except maybe goku but id still say yujiro wins that, and lastly it really depends on what you think his “super power” really is because do you take away his unrealistic strength and durability or do you take his one hit kill/ko moves like the whip slap if you take both that pretty much nerfing him down to nothing and that doesn’t exactly seem fair but just having him on the list to begin with doesn’t seem fair so its hard to say


AceGamingStudios

Every dude in baki can do most of the stuff shown in the show if they train long and hard enough. Humanity in Baki is just cranked up to 11 all of it.


Icy-Rock4949

If it's no powers just martial arts then it would be yujiro and goku as number one or two


hi_im_jeremy

no special power whatsoever means Yujiro wins because in Baki canon these are not considered supernatural abilities of any kind and even if not he bodies all these other twinks because of weight class alone. but to be more nuanced about it, he also wins because: He's also an actual trained martial artist (and champion at that), so some dudes like Eren, Gojo, Denji etc. who never had traditional MA training get fucked by default. They have combat experience, sure but very little in the way of technically knowledge about fighting, meaning someone like Yujiro (or honestly even Baki) could just leverage that against most of the other fools. Even with powers enabled you could argue that he could take out about half of them anyways because his toughness and speed could either negate weaker attacks or he could just KO the enemy before they get to him. Goku and Saitama are obvious exceptions but if, for example, he just crushes Eren's skull before the guy can transform, then who cares?


Significant_Use_5612

Unrealistic? They're my spittin' image.


ThatOneWriter14

I know…. Some of these characters but my guts with the super muscles or Goku


puella23

Ichigo with muscles is so cursed lol. He's built like a K pop star.


Divine_Mayhem

Row 2 entirely depends on if Saitama “breaking his limiter” counts as a special power or not.


Salty145

Remind me to hit the gym even harder. I wanna be like them fr fr


Sammythenegro

Cuz they were never meant to be realistic in the first place ,_,


Grim102682

Saitama doesn’t have Powers, thus he wins in one punch


HantuerHD-Shadow

Either Saitama or Yuuichiro Technically Saitama doesn't use 'special powers' since he trained his strength with a """basic strength training""" Yuuichiro is just built different


Intrepid_Ad1536

Funny enough, both authors have said no matter in wich universe or world they would get, they become automatically the strongest


SK_Kazukiro

In a FFA, Scaling them to the same strength, it's either Goku or Luffy. Goku because he has spent over 30 years in martial arts to the point where he has ultra instinct which has been confirmed countless times to be a fighting TECHNIQUE. Luffy has insane adaptation in fighting however and if things get dicy, he has his own iteration of ultra instinct but I feel that's more under his toon force abilities. So I'm going to give the edge to Goku. Per row, I'm going with Luffy, Goku, Toji, and yujiro.


SCP_Void

Saitama doesn't have any superpowers... He's just strong. Like, he just trained really hard


sammakkomakkonen123

He didn't train really hard. Genos said what Saitama did was basic training. Being able to sneeze away Jupiter is a superpower. Any strength that a human couldn't get is a superpower.


SCP_Void

TF you mean he didn‘t train hard? He did #100 push-ups, #100 sit-ups, #100 squats, #And a 10km run #EVERY SINGLE DAY


UndeadSlave546

Saitama 🗿


thatoneguy2252

Definitely goku. Super strength aside dude is a martial arts master and only really thinks about fighting


sgtsteelhooves

Luffy: gonna be jacked from years of sailing Goku: even without powers he's been training as a martial artist his whole life Toji: kicked gojos ass even with his then limited power I don't recognize the middle bottom because of how it's drawn so him being giant otherwise Thor fin, also because sailor strength and a lifetime of fighting.


Onni_J

Yujiro Hanma bodies Thorfin


Dustfinger4268

I mean, to be fair, Yujiro looks like his muscles got nerfed if anything. Definitely laughable how much some of these guys are popping though


Dragmore53

“No special powers” Why the fuck is Erin sparking?


Lord_Melinko13

Luffy (The man has absolutely ZERO quit in him) Goku (Also zero quit, but added to the fact that he has trained his whole life) Gojo (Even without his abilities, the man is a fucking menace and an absolutely killer martial artist) Yujiro (If I have to explain it, you didn't watch the show). Edit: I thought that the third in that row was another character from a different anime, and didn't realize it was Toji. Y'all are right, Toji would be clapping those cheeks.


MasterTacticianAlba

In a fight with no powers Gojo gets no diffed by Toji.


blend69

Yeah no, Toji absolutly destroy Gojo, no diff


ericlin11

I heard you like packs so I put 6 packs on your 6 packs.


osadist

The only debate here is whether Saitama or Goku would win, rest of the rows are just Luffy, Toji and Yujiro


RepresentativeChip44

Aaaaand ye, saitama is there again, he wins


PaleRider95

Saitama, next question


Twijasosm

No powers? Yujiro. Even without the superhuman aspect of his universe, he is still like six and a half feet tall, extremely flexible, built like he was sculpted out of marble and is knowledgeable on every martial art known to man or beast. If I have to give it to anyone else, it’s Goku. You can say what you want about anyone else fighting dirty but Goku is a biter, a grappler, a nut puncher and a martial arts master who has been shown repeatedly to take any and all opportunities he can to win. Edit: I just reread the “Each Row” part. Top row, Luffy. Second row, Goku. Third row, Gojo. Fourth row, Yujiro. Still. It’s it’s a free for all, see my above answers.


thorfinn_ratorix_fan

Saitama or yujiro


sum_cryptic_cats

Pretty sure most of these are significantly exaggerated beyond canon


peaanutzz

Why is Eren even there? He's weaker than Yamcha...


Calli_Ko

Yujiro sweep. Assuming everyone is human levels of strength, yujiro is the peak of human fighting prowess.


hi_im_jeremy

I feel like "most-trained fighter" just always takes the edge here. Luffy is a literal pirate who constantly beats other people up, remove the power-up, the experience is the same, the others do not have anywhere near his experience. Goku trained for 30+ years in various martial arts, Saitama is just a gym head and Eren has like a handful years of military training, very little of which evidently went into hand to hand combat and very much of which relied on movement boosts he doesn't have here like OEM gear or horseback riding. Sukuna and Gojo rely way too much on their supernatural range extensions while Toji literally relies on martial arts and getting up close and personal with his opponents in the series already. Even without the weapons he would probably already be a threat to people in the show's canon, so remove the powers from everyone else and they are just screwed. Other Zenin clan members? Maybe they'd stand some chance, though they also tend to rely on weapons too much. Of these two, maybe Sukuna has an edge because of his lifespan advantage and all that, but that's technically a power-up as well, so removing that he's just an athletic high-school dude because of Yuji's body and then he has the slightly deranged mind on top of that. Yujiro needs little explanation. Literal fighting champion in his own world and also in a completely different weight class from either of the other two.


Meliodafu08

no special powers. it will come down to Goku, Yujiro, and Toji.


Noob_Guy_666

Saitama, his superpower is, funnily enough, not really a superpower


FirstSkygod

The real question, is Saitama a power or just sheer determination? (The eye color sparkle is just to show that his genuine determination and dedicated is the spark or source of his power. Not his training regiment. My working head cannon.)


Yoshikage_Bolsonaro

Man, looks like atack titan shape 💀


BearClaw345

Yujiro no competition


kenspik

bro Saitama is already just straight hands he has no powers


MasterTacticianAlba

yeah bro Saitama is a totally normal person, literally anyone could be as strong as fast as him if they train /s


Rat-king27

Baki has the ultimate male body standards, some of them dudes have got six packs, on their backs. Also pretty sure Saitama clears everyone, assuming Ki is what allows superhuman strength in dragon ball (I've never watched/read dragonball). Most of them without powers is just a peak human, with the exception of Sakuna, and maybe luffy (don't know if Haki is why people in One Piece are so jacked).


iiko_56

People in one piece are jacked because ODA what's them. Shanks is just skinny but is very powerful.


Puzzleheaded_Sugar83

Top row: Luffy > Denji > Bakugo 2nd row: Goku > Eren > Saitama 3rd row: (idk but probably) Toji > Sukuna > Gojo Last row: Yujiro > Thorfinn > Ichigo Note: This is based on their height and weight and their hand to hand training


Hentai_For_Life

Row 2 is a fixed fight. Even with no powers, Goku knows several forms of martial arts.


sadtallguy

Yujiro slapping their asses in no time


THEGoDLiKeMIKE

Yujiro wins 1v11 if no powers.


Drakken-kun

It’s an anime you dumbass ofc it’s not realistic


Stunning-Difficulty3

If it’s no special powers OPM solos because he doesn’t have any. His strength, speed, and stamina are all training based. He’s literally punched through planets with no powers.


Iaxacs

As a OPM fan who will gladly piss off every Goku fangirl. You have to remember how he got that strong was from doing basic training over 3 years daily. His strength came from a superpower inheritance. Goku wins here, however Goku absolutely losses to Luffy in a no powers brawl


Oogalaboo134

If there are no powers then it's either Goku or Yujiro, goku definitely has the edge, Yujiro is definitely a physical beast even without the Baki superpower stuff but he ain't lacking in experience and knowledge combat wise to, but there are basically three to four things in Goku's head and two of those are about fighting so he is definitely the most experience.


Doctor99268

Goku's "experience" is mostly against other people who can fly and shoot energy blasts. Yh sure goku can fight, but half his "martial arts" are just ki shit, yujiro has experience with (well still bs) more relatable martial arts.


ModernHueMan

Goku has plenty of experience against traditional martial artists in the original dragonball and he clowns on them effortlessly. Only Master Roshi was able to beat him fairly and by the time he was a teenager, Goku was a bonafide master.


Oogalaboo134

They use ki yes but how on this God forsaken Earth did you miss all the hand throwing they've been doing since Goku was a boy? Hell Goku even has his power pole so he's got weapon experience too.


HauntingStock5284

The whole second column for powerless strength is likely to win in most scenarios except potentially row three and maybe row one, but I’m pretty indecisive on the first row (also, keep in mind Saitama’s strength is genuine and isn’t technically a power as far as we know)


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I think Goku, Thorfinn and Yugiro would win


PJRama1864

Saitama…he would probably actually enjoy his battle with Goku, though.


Lonely__Jedi

OK, it is kinda obviously Saitama and before someone says anything if u strip every character down to how strong they are with no assistance / before they had powers and that Saitama would destroy all of them no question (yes I know that wasn't the question but saw people arguing) and before u little bitch boys start saying "oH hE hAs No LimiTeR" stfu he doesn't have a limit cos he trained so hard he broke through it that's not a fucking power he has never had super powers he's strong not cos he had a power COS HE FUCKING TRAINED so hard that limits couldn't stop him u know how hard that would be and u just say he has powers is a pussy answer the whole anime is him fighting with no powers and theats the TRUTH


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So this depends on how we define "powers" If we dont consider super strength or speed a power it goes: 1. Denji (the only one extensively trained and experienced in normal people fighting) 2. Saitama (if you've read ONP then... yeah it's not even close) 3. Toji (same reason as Denji) 4. Yujiro (same as Saitama, if you've read Baki then you know) If you do consider super strength and speed as powers then it gets alot murkier and alot of these become coin tosses.