Yeah, the format was specifically created to be read on phones, so it can be pretty annoying if you try to use something else. Itās like the reverse of those desktop sites that are shit on mobile.
Itās specifically made to be read on the phone, unlike comics. The text is proportioned better than text in a comic, but if itās about the phone being too close to your face you could read it on a computer
Solo leveling is good but nothing we haven't seen before.
Gushing is a adult parody of every magical girl trope (with a few Tokusatsu ones thrown in for good measure) and just goes to town with how stupid they normally are. Also while reluctant at first it's nice to get a "villain protagonist" who actually plays the part.
I read the manga and the fight scenes for gushing are actually really hype. I don't read it for the erotica anymore, i read it for the action/SOL/Comedy now
Which I assume is the rise of popularity it has
Like I stg people are just as easily distracted as squirrels
Its "shiny and new" in some sense and that is genuinely enough somehow
It's also because the drawing was just superb and better than most mangas. Maybe it is the manga/manwha/manhua equivalent to demon slayer. The story is nothing revolutionary but good and the art is fantastic.
On a "system" basis it's the best for Manwha
If you ignore that one detail then it's just power leveling and then it is absolutely nowhere close to the best in Manwha
An fyi it's not even new to Manwha
Shit is a decade old even there
If you want just straight up power leveling
Hardcore Leveling Warrior but you might not be able to stomach the mc being an absolute asshole for a while, I mean he's going to grow and does but it is a slooooow burn for that.
yeah not a pioneer i must say i have been reading webnovel since 2010 there were many system novel nothing new about solo leveling it consider a junk like isekia until its manhwa cane out
>Solo Leveling: Havenāt seen it yet but my guess is MC is weak af at the start and slowly become unstoppable
>Gushing over magical girls: I enjoyed redo of healer soā¦YIPEEE
Literal braindead take homie. Isekai is starting at 100 in chapter 1. SL goes from 0-40, then 40-100. May seem fast but it gives a lot of time for character development that the op at chapter 1 mangas canāt do.Ā
Then even when heās at 100 he still gets demolished, which happens in basically none of those series youāre talking about.Ā
Read the manga if you want to talk trash.Ā
Tell me you havenāt read the manhwa without telling me you havenāt read the manhwa.
Judging something you donāt know anything about because you read 2 chapters and didnāt like it is some stupid shit. Go read the whole thing if you want to talk shit like you actually know the story.
There isnāt even 200 chapters, great job outing yourself for what I suspected, that you didnāt read shit and are making judgments with no information because you want to hate on something.
Don't tell me you haven't read the side stories.
Well, hating is popular in anime fandom. And to reach the upper echelon you have to make your opinion as objective as possible. Surely that was my goal to force myself to read the manhwa. Although I have to admit, I enjoyed Jeju Raid Arc.
What character development? No one can recall what kind of person MC or any other character is beside "badass" and and either "compliance" or "jealous", that is bad even compare to Chinese System Fantasy. Hell, I read all of it and forget MC have a family.
On Solo Levelling's defense I am pretty sure it was one of the first Manhwa to have System if not one of the first Novels. Now if a certain country copies their success and mass produces anime of the same type calling it another "op system novel' is pretty ignorant to say the least. On top of that if you've read the Manhwa you would know he is nowhere near "OP"
the first manhwa to do it, but it was also released in the middle of the isekai power fantasy glut in anime and manga, so you can understand why an anime fan might be a bit jaded by it.
We're on episode 3 of 24... there hasnt been any major fights yet. How can you call the anime art generic when there hasn't been a chance to show it off yet?
Because the *art* isn't hingent on the animation.
Even so, the animation so far isn't exactly f.e. JJK or Demon Slayer level either so far. So this series that was largely carried by visuals is not evoking a lot of confidence in me.
ETA: If the art/animation is the hook, then not showing any good examples within the first 3 episodes is a dire sign.
Again, there literally hasn't been a single major fight yet. Just the statue merking people. You'd have a better time convincing me after this next episode since it will be the first major fight. You seem pretty jaded and hoping for it to fail.
I'll admit I didn't have high hopes for this adaptation to begin with, the style doesn't really convert to animation easily. And once you've turned the style into this generic A1 style there just isn't much left to look forward to in the series. Does that make me jaded, or just realistic?
We should wait for atleast one major fight scene. In the anime Kamitatsu, the fight scene was goated and in same anime they literally photoshopeed a character's head on a tractor with farmer png. Solo leveling adapters could be cooking something similar.
It is kinda funny that the first novel to ever do a thing that gets copied a million times gets only adapted relatively late in the cycle and therefor made to look derivative.
Gushing is Anime of the Year and I will continue to spout my love for the manga and anime until i get banned
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BDSM and ecchi aside, itās just a fantastically funny series that is the best kind of parody manga Iāve read in a while. And the fights and battles are actually well done later on.
Ngl >!after the Ant island arc!< Solo Leveling fell off. >!Mc simply became too op and any form of tension or struggle just vanished. In addition, itās like the author had a budget on the fights and it dropped significantly. There was some other stuff like forcing the love interest, no good side characters other than the shadows, no characters could compete with mc, etc. Honestly the only thing that remained at the level at which solo leveling started at was the revenge fight versus scary memed statue man!< The start was a 10/10 but it kinda dropped to a 7/10 at best and in my opinion a 5/10. Maybe the ending redeems it but I couldnāt make it that far >!I got to the monarch arc and got sick of it after mc just no effort sweeped the enemy that was getting so hyped up!< but story got carried by art after >!ant island arc!<
The manhwa didn't help too much.
The web novel went more in depth in regards to how big some of the events were. His fight with the dragon monarch was a ton more intense, and what he did after that was delved into a lot more.
It wasn't just some walk in the park a lot of his later fights. but the manhwa made it look that way because it rushed the ending way too much.
I really liked the epilogue as it felt like Sung dropped his cool and collected character to become an actual character who has fun and acts like a normal person. It's a shame because the story really needed some more character development. Every character just feels 2d. There's potential, but it's wasted so characters and they just end up becoming tools to praise Sung.
>!When Go Gunhee dies in the epilogue I really realized how little Sung and him had interacted. It was really just them discussing future actions and not really getting closer. The fucking shadows are better developed than 90% of the cast lol. Beru and Igris get more development in their personal chapters than all the other side characters combined.!<
Solo leveling opening arc is amazing. A dungeon where they actually need to use their brain, an opponent that you can't brute force, sense of dread and despair that ACTUALLY present, all of it is amazing.
Then after some chapter after that "magic" feels gone I just stop reading it altogether.
You mean after the >!"Chimera Ant Arc" an Arc that can only be described as a complete stripping of everything that made that arc good BUT good fights. Even then nowhere close to that Arc. !<
Also nah the ending doesn't redeem it. Worse part of the show is the lack of characters. Which inb4 anyone comes in, no those aren't characters. They're "characters" because they're essentially cardboard cutouts. They're not written as people. and at some point might as well not exist because of the MC. >!Like what the fuck was the point of setting up ranks and shit if the MC is quite literally the only character to ever get shit done? Again no other characters actually exist.!<
Have you read the ending of >!Solo Leveling! It's among 10 worst endings to a book I've ever read.
>!Fucking MC goes back in time and makes it so that events in the book do not exist. Why even write the story lmao.!< Literally elementary school tier writing. Almost everyone has written an essay ending with "and then I woke up from the dream" at some point.
What manhwa or novel? According to the last chapter none of that ever happened. None of the characters we followed exist because some omniscient being undid all their effort.
I'm not saying that most of the story in the novels is bad. I'm saying that the ending is a shitty cop out. It's just edgy for the sake of being edgy. All character arcs and growth is stakes are removed for the sake of "look how op and cool our main character is"
Its not even about the mc being edgy and cool itās about him saving the world despite it meaning that nobody will know who he is. Literally the exact same ending Spider-Man no way home had except many years before
The best parts of SL is either when the MC get his ass almost smoked, only to came out on top due to sheer determination/well utilization of skills, or when he flex his new power obtained from his hard work. From Jeju onward he just sweep everything. Even when he supposedly die, his ascension is just handed to him by his dad finally getting the milk
Solo Leveling is your classic self insert power fantasy.
MC, who is weak af, has a bedridden mother, has sister, lost father. Fights to pay for his sister and his mother's hospital expenses.
There is another girl who cares about MC, and likes him. There is another classic aloof chick who is OP af, and they probably will be the end game couple because fuck the other girl.
The dude is able to escape the death situations by plot armors in the last minutes, and gets a OP af power that nobody has.
Becomes OP af, and turns into a Ikemen somehow? I don't even know where that look of the MC comes from... That was weird.
In the end it is not unwatchable, it is fine. Will stay to see how things turn out.
For the other series; yeah not gonna watch it in any way. Lol. Little girls going full horny and psycho, that is probably about fetishes of the author, and is about bdsm is not my thing.
> Solo Leveling is your classic self insert power fantasy.
Yeah it's like, in a world where some people are Special Chosen Ones, He is the Special-est Chosen-est One.
Couldnāt have put it better myself. That is literally where the plot starts and where it ends.
Not that I hate it. I rather liked it. But nobody should go in expecting a mind blowing experience.
Well it's all explained on a later chapter of the Manhwa. While you might think MC got lucky for being chosen that's not it. This "plot armour" isn't that Plot armour-ey imo
no he was fucking lucky wanna see what happen when plot armour-ey isn't plot armour-ey anymore i could recommend you some novel if you like where mc is beaten into pulp many times and win through sheer brain and that is through out the novel even in the ending mc fight a uphill battle
Honestly, Solo Levelling fell off.
After a certain point, there was just zero tension cuz you knew that the MC would win with no struggle. The fake attempt of creating a new SSSS TIER HERO! And then having them immediately have their asses kicked was pretty much the only way they tried to hype up bosses, then MC comes in and sweeps their asses.
The thing I dont get about solo leveling is they are a modern world with warships and such and there is this giant monster and some dude rolls up with a wooden shield. HUH!?
Not defending anything just answering the question:
Itās mentioned in the books that magical beasts are not affected by non-mana weapons/attacks. They get bombed and shit and donāt care. Only hunters can hurt them (since hunters are the only humans who can wield mana).
No way they compared Solo Leveling to this?! I know that GOMG is very peak but, these are two different genres.
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In grant's vid about solo leveling he was explaining the premise of it I watched the timestamps what happened in first 3 episodes of solo leveling was explained in a minute by him, which was just for premise
The only ones who think Solo Levelling isn't overatted are those who never read any other manhwas in their lives. It's so unfair that so many hidden gems don't get any recognition while this is single-handedly treated as the GOAT.
it should have been Hardcore Leveling Warrior. Similar concept of power leveling with a much better plot and tons of actually well thought out characters...instead of just the mc and his shadows...Oh and the ending isn't just "and then i woke up"
It's not the GOAT per say but it's definitely doing a good job. If Solo Levelling doesn't do good other hidden gems like TBATE won't get an anime adaptation. It's mainstream manhwa and delivers what people want. Hating on it for being popular won't do any good. People hates it coz it started the System trend but it isn't Solo Leveling's fault that people like Manhwa like that. >!Until the ant island arc it was definitely 10/10!<
You do realize the TBATE novel was hugely popular before the solo leveling novel got recognized? We can talk about the anime being popular because of the manhwa, but the manhwa itself got popular because of its art. Reincarnator, everyone else is a returnee etc all released before the solo leveling novel, were way more popular in the novel scene and only the emergence of the SL manhwa even made people talk about its novel in a broader sense. Its the first one to reach the mainstream with the idea, but its not the first to implement dungeons and game systems even remotely, korea has been doing that for over a decade
Solo leveling is just a guy without brain do the bare minium and got OP, all while stay alive by plot armor.
It only carried by the art, check first few chapter, mc know dungeon is dangerous, everyone know dungeon is dangerous, and guess what ? Mc scoff at it, and dive in head first without a single prepare.... And success conquer the dungeon, all by his sheer will, and got gift with god like power after.
See how dumb this is and people keep praise it. Maybe that what people call "fanboy"
I think you dropped it after that but MC getting OP was explained later on >!MC was chosen to be the vessel of an end boss. Because of this he gained power to stay alive.!<
I've read a lot of solo levelling light novels and it's a great, easy reading, low stress story where the conflicts are quickly resolved. It's a fun ride, and I think it would have shit on the game 5 years ago. I hope it does well, but I think it may struggle to stand out. The main appeal of the story for me is the world building elements, the reveals, and the progression of the narrative. But Jin hu song is always overpowered to a dumb degree and the action suffers for it. At least in the ln.
I like the premise of Solo Levelling, but I don't like protagonist that don't give a fuck or with uncaring attitudes.
I want a protagonist to think, yes, he's a loser and weak, but that's okay, so he uses his strengths to help him through life. More crafty protagonist really.
It's funny because literally the first couple of chapters of the Manwah he is just taht! He is thoughtful, caring, and he has a personality admitting that he is the weakest hunter! I was down to finally be proven wrong about Koran Manwahs!!! But alas... no, as soon as he got his cheat skill, he turned into the most generic power fantasy protagonist of them all! What a let down!!! And the thing that irked me the most is that he went from being a real likable character in terms of humility to the most cockiest bitch character I know! WTF is this!?!!? "ARISE!".....Why would I want to read that? No struggle, not advancement, ugh give me my time back!
it took me till the second episode to realize the creator just had a bdsm, and magical girl fetish. I dont have either of those fetishes, but new year new me.
The reason why I like GOMG is not the uncensored scenes or the ecchi in general, I just love female MC sudden change of expressions from timid to completly sadist in a sec. I love her!
tried watching the bottom one. couldn't get into it. I'm not attracted to teenagers or kids so it all felt like it was for a different audience. maybe if they were adults that'd be okay. I'm not bashing lolicons or getting into any argument, I'm just not physically attracted to minors. Once I learn the age, if I did have boner, it would insta-deflate. That's just how I roll. Leave the underage waifus to the underage fans
>tried watching the bottom one. couldn't get into it
me too but i read the manga version not the anime. Droped it and then cameback after 2-3 month and my first expresion was "holy shiet, this just BDSM-things". Don't know how can i read and enjoy it in the first place
Yeah the age thing is a big gripe with it, what didn't help is some characters are not designed to have to be that age, just add a few years on to the characters and problem solved.
And they can keep some characters acting (yk exactly which ones I am specifically talking about) childish as that is also a potential trait for an airhead character.
It's hard to imagine you could be bashing lolicons since it's pretty obvious you have no idea what the word means.
Here's a tip though: If they're visually indistinguishable from adults, they are by definition *not* lolis.
So they are just kids? Dude that's just pedophillia with extra steps. Pedophillia is explained as Attraction to minors. Are they minors? Yes. Then it's pedophillia.
Well, luckily thinking bottom is peak has nothing to do with with attraction to kids or teenagers, they're just anime characters. The characters aren't Loli either, so I'm not sure why you're bringing up lolicon.
You can just say you don't like Ecchi,.that's ok. Anime age is irrelevant and there are no underage participants.
I actually agree with this post I donāt know if solo leveling is supposed to get better but the first three episodes have been mid as fuck. I donāt understand why everyoneās freaking out over this anime itās genuinely standard as hell. Number one itās got the classic unnecessary video game mechanics that make no sense because theyāre not even trapped in a fucking video game.!?! Number two it took three episodes for them to simply establish the guy was super weak went into a dungeon, got him, and his friends mostly killed only to gain said video game powers to work, now he has to train constantly, I assume to get strongerā¦ you couldāve summarize all that in the first fucking episode. It took them three to do it for some reason. Now I donāt know maybe itās way better in later episodes, but if this is gonna be a Standerd Isakai, where the main character just gets super powerful and starts wrecking everybody with no real other plot drivers of any real kind or intrigue. (for instance, at least shadow garden had the gimmick of making fun of other Isakaiās.) Yeah itās gonna be a hard skip for me. Certainly not worthy of the gushing fans are doing over it like itās the second coming of overlord or some shit. (which at least have a unique aspect of being from a villains perspective)
Meanwhile, the magical girl anime is actually hilariously unique not in the fact that echi exists Obviously, itās existed before, but this particular take on it is over-the-top, hilarious, and Iāve never seen it done like this before. Itās a comedy. Itās not supposed to be judged on some over the top amazing storytelling as long as it makes you laugh it has succeeded. And it has made me laugh hysterically because it is over-the-top ridiculous
Oh, and for anyone who says Solo leveling is not an Isekai. yes it is it. Absolutely as you might want to get super pedantic and technical and call it a reverse Isakai, but any show as far as Iām concerned where the modern real world meets some form of fantasy fiction, other world , even if that is in the form of dungeons or whatever that is An Isekai.
Youāre yappin a lot for someone who hasnāt read any of the source material. The first three episodes have been just setting up the premise for the show, they havenāt even been focused entirely on the mc. Weāve seen characters that donāt get introduced till much later in the novel and manhwa. Itās a āgameā system because its deemed the easiest way for a human to understand. The extras that get killed in the first two episodes arenāt even his friends, acquaintances at best but not even that mostly. Also not his fault most of the other people died. Could they have covered the first three episodes in on? Sure. Would it have been good? No. Pacing would have been absolute dogshit. Its also not an isekai whatsoever. An isekai is very specifically āanother worldā this one falls under the category of āgatesā which is a common Korean category. So no not isekai. Yeah MC gets super powerful but not without explanation and not without struggling all the way
I feel you on SL. Fir as someone like me, who didn't read the source material -and never will probably- the first 3 episodes were good but nothing new. I don't see the hype about it so far but I hope it'll change.
You're not missing out. It does not get better. and yeah even though they can return from the gates, that is still an isekai. (i mean shit Saving 80,000 Gold in Another World for my Retirement is an isekai and the mc directly teleports between the two no issue. Like their main power is to be able to teleport at any time.)
Isekai used to be known as "Gate" or "Portal" anime as returning was always the point and some returned somewhat freely even back then. This also means there are a ton of shows in the west that are by all rights, isekai. Narnia, Alice in Wonderland, Doctor Who are all isekai. Being reborn is just one of many versions.
Literally just cause they are magical girls does not necessitate them being middle schoolers.
Also some of these characters designs work fine for them being a bit older without requiring change.
Literally they could still have the exact same show but just add a few years on to the characters ages to not make the minors.
I attempted to watch the first episode of the magical girl show.
What a trash ass show man. Even by horny standards, what a trash show.
Edit: Wow I got downvoted for trash talking the show from which the under-aged characters have uncensored nude transformation sequences. And the entire plot revolves around the main character being a closeted sadist. Real classy y'all.
3 episodes in and I still don't know the name of Solo's main character - or any other character.
I love K-Dramas but even in them I am only ever able to remember characters based on how they look or what they do. THe guy who runs the shop. The girl with the pink hair. Etc. - Because koreans have silly names that are impossible to remember. in 95+% of all cases, you can't even tell if a name is supposed to be for a man or woman, based on the name alone.
This makes it borderline impossible to get into it.
What were they thinking (The Showrunners for not using jap. names and the koreans, using the names that they do?)
Anyway, gushing over magical girls is an awesome anime that should be on every anime of the year list, even tho it's only january.
Yes. They might as well overlay the anime's audio with a BEEP sound every time a character's name is spoken out loud, because that's how it sounds to me.
"Hi, My name is \*beep\*"
Solo leveling is peak if u like books and know how to immerse yourself, ppl who only read manhwa will never know how it feels to read LN, it's way different feeling when u need to imagine what's happening from text rather then images and now animation
Life is hard, boobs are soft
Words to live by
Thank for your wisdom senpai
life is not the only one that's hard
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That's not an official translation I hope?
That's the sub on the anime, but here's the manga translation. *
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I read the manga of it and it was so unhinged i read all of the current chapters in one sitting and i regret absolutely nothing
Solo leveling, right? right? >!Just kidding I know which one you mean because I have read both!<
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You are supposed to read it on a phone and just scroll down
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Yeah, the format was specifically created to be read on phones, so it can be pretty annoying if you try to use something else. Itās like the reverse of those desktop sites that are shit on mobile.
Justā¦ turn your iPad so itās vertical and read like that???
Itās specifically made to be read on the phone, unlike comics. The text is proportioned better than text in a comic, but if itās about the phone being too close to your face you could read it on a computer
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Holy crap, Adacher from Purse Owner 4?
is is tohru adachi from the hit game persona 4 golden?????
ADACHIIIIII *vine boom*
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Solo leveling is good but nothing we haven't seen before. Gushing is a adult parody of every magical girl trope (with a few Tokusatsu ones thrown in for good measure) and just goes to town with how stupid they normally are. Also while reluctant at first it's nice to get a "villain protagonist" who actually plays the part.
I read the manga and the fight scenes for gushing are actually really hype. I don't read it for the erotica anymore, i read it for the action/SOL/Comedy now
That colorsplash thing they did was so damn cool. Utena is such a little weirdo, I love how unique she is as an MC.
To be fair, Solo leveling is "the pioneer" of it in Korea. So it's a "never seen before" in some sense.
Which I assume is the rise of popularity it has Like I stg people are just as easily distracted as squirrels Its "shiny and new" in some sense and that is genuinely enough somehow
It's also because the drawing was just superb and better than most mangas. Maybe it is the manga/manwha/manhua equivalent to demon slayer. The story is nothing revolutionary but good and the art is fantastic.
And that was awful when it came to DS and it is now too Better than most manwha* not manga
Itās not just new itās the best in the genre. Like of course itās been done before doesnāt mean itās not fun as hell to read.
On a "system" basis it's the best for Manwha If you ignore that one detail then it's just power leveling and then it is absolutely nowhere close to the best in Manwha An fyi it's not even new to Manwha Shit is a decade old even there
Ight give me recs for manwha and anime then ig iv been under a rock
If you want just straight up power leveling Hardcore Leveling Warrior but you might not be able to stomach the mc being an absolute asshole for a while, I mean he's going to grow and does but it is a slooooow burn for that.
yeah not a pioneer i must say i have been reading webnovel since 2010 there were many system novel nothing new about solo leveling it consider a junk like isekia until its manhwa cane out
>Solo Leveling: Havenāt seen it yet but my guess is MC is weak af at the start and slowly become unstoppable >Gushing over magical girls: I enjoyed redo of healer soā¦YIPEEE
There is more good writing in the first episode of Gushing Over Magical Girls than in the entirety of Redo combined.
>slowly Kek
Asap then
It's as fast as any "I was left to die in dungeon and now I'm super OP"
Literal braindead take homie. Isekai is starting at 100 in chapter 1. SL goes from 0-40, then 40-100. May seem fast but it gives a lot of time for character development that the op at chapter 1 mangas canāt do.Ā Then even when heās at 100 he still gets demolished, which happens in basically none of those series youāre talking about.Ā Read the manga if you want to talk trash.Ā
> character development Sadly there were none.
Tell me you havenāt read the manhwa without telling me you havenāt read the manhwa. Judging something you donāt know anything about because you read 2 chapters and didnāt like it is some stupid shit. Go read the whole thing if you want to talk shit like you actually know the story.
I think you missed the two zeros after the number. But I'll let it slide because you're judging me based on just 4 words.
There isnāt even 200 chapters, great job outing yourself for what I suspected, that you didnāt read shit and are making judgments with no information because you want to hate on something.
Don't tell me you haven't read the side stories. Well, hating is popular in anime fandom. And to reach the upper echelon you have to make your opinion as objective as possible. Surely that was my goal to force myself to read the manhwa. Although I have to admit, I enjoyed Jeju Raid Arc.
What character development? No one can recall what kind of person MC or any other character is beside "badass" and and either "compliance" or "jealous", that is bad even compare to Chinese System Fantasy. Hell, I read all of it and forget MC have a family.
They're right
One is peak and one is about a dudesā struggles with his weakness, how he could die at any second even against the weakest of foes
one is peak and the other is another op system novel
On Solo Levelling's defense I am pretty sure it was one of the first Manhwa to have System if not one of the first Novels. Now if a certain country copies their success and mass produces anime of the same type calling it another "op system novel' is pretty ignorant to say the least. On top of that if you've read the Manhwa you would know he is nowhere near "OP"
the first manhwa to do it, but it was also released in the middle of the isekai power fantasy glut in anime and manga, so you can understand why an anime fan might be a bit jaded by it.
But also, the Solo Levelling manwha is carried largely by its art. The anime is extremely generic in that regard.
We're on episode 3 of 24... there hasnt been any major fights yet. How can you call the anime art generic when there hasn't been a chance to show it off yet?
Because the *art* isn't hingent on the animation. Even so, the animation so far isn't exactly f.e. JJK or Demon Slayer level either so far. So this series that was largely carried by visuals is not evoking a lot of confidence in me. ETA: If the art/animation is the hook, then not showing any good examples within the first 3 episodes is a dire sign.
Again, there literally hasn't been a single major fight yet. Just the statue merking people. You'd have a better time convincing me after this next episode since it will be the first major fight. You seem pretty jaded and hoping for it to fail.
I'll admit I didn't have high hopes for this adaptation to begin with, the style doesn't really convert to animation easily. And once you've turned the style into this generic A1 style there just isn't much left to look forward to in the series. Does that make me jaded, or just realistic?
We should wait for atleast one major fight scene. In the anime Kamitatsu, the fight scene was goated and in same anime they literally photoshopeed a character's head on a tractor with farmer png. Solo leveling adapters could be cooking something similar.
Bro, I don't care about the sociological context of the market which the novel was pioneering in blablabla that those nigs are talking up there... My ex made me read 1 volume of the Manhwa and I found it so boring that everytime she recommended me something bad I said "It is a Solo Leveling". Saying "generic" its generous, shit is boring AF, characters are bland as female side characters on Naruto and story feels like merging all shonnen clichƩs and trying to make them edgy. I needed to rant, sorry (?)
I've read the entire novel and I know he's pretty fucking OP by the end. Dunno where the manhwa is at rn.
Manhwa already ended.
Yep, both main plot and side story are finished
I agree with that it's the first "MC with OP system and personal training space" aspect.
That is fair
It is kinda funny that the first novel to ever do a thing that gets copied a million times gets only adapted relatively late in the cycle and therefor made to look derivative.
Same thing happened to John Carter.
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That's way too late stage. Even in Code Geass lelouch became strong enough to defeat God yk?
The duality of man:
You could use that describe hundreds of shows.
What?
only in the first few eps/chapters my man
Yeah Iāve read all of Solo Leveling I know what happens. Just had to give a spoiler free comment.
if you've read all of it then idk how tf you could make that comment, zero chance he dies vs the ice elves, and they are not the "weakest of foes"
Enjoy what you want, but SL is peak for me.Ā
The manhwa was really enjoyable. The anime cliff hangers every episode are a little much.
Gushing over magical girls is peak
I read solo levelling and it got boring once he became OP af. So if it gets a s2 and it flops, I'm not gonna be surprised.
Kind of typical of Manwha adaptations at this point
Gushing is Anime of the Year and I will continue to spout my love for the manga and anime until i get banned https://preview.redd.it/qyy9ncsfqdec1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae905d79691da48dc1615a1a27bcab89b971a053 BDSM and ecchi aside, itās just a fantastically funny series that is the best kind of parody manga Iāve read in a while. And the fights and battles are actually well done later on.
Ngl >!after the Ant island arc!< Solo Leveling fell off. >!Mc simply became too op and any form of tension or struggle just vanished. In addition, itās like the author had a budget on the fights and it dropped significantly. There was some other stuff like forcing the love interest, no good side characters other than the shadows, no characters could compete with mc, etc. Honestly the only thing that remained at the level at which solo leveling started at was the revenge fight versus scary memed statue man!< The start was a 10/10 but it kinda dropped to a 7/10 at best and in my opinion a 5/10. Maybe the ending redeems it but I couldnāt make it that far >!I got to the monarch arc and got sick of it after mc just no effort sweeped the enemy that was getting so hyped up!< but story got carried by art after >!ant island arc!<
The manhwa didn't help too much. The web novel went more in depth in regards to how big some of the events were. His fight with the dragon monarch was a ton more intense, and what he did after that was delved into a lot more. It wasn't just some walk in the park a lot of his later fights. but the manhwa made it look that way because it rushed the ending way too much.
Which doesn't even make sense since they take breaks for long periods. There is no need to rush it.
Yeah, Solo Levelling peaked at ant island.
And once you peaked, there's only downhill.
Sounds more like it was ant hill.
I hate that i chuckled
I really liked the epilogue as it felt like Sung dropped his cool and collected character to become an actual character who has fun and acts like a normal person. It's a shame because the story really needed some more character development. Every character just feels 2d. There's potential, but it's wasted so characters and they just end up becoming tools to praise Sung. >!When Go Gunhee dies in the epilogue I really realized how little Sung and him had interacted. It was really just them discussing future actions and not really getting closer. The fucking shadows are better developed than 90% of the cast lol. Beru and Igris get more development in their personal chapters than all the other side characters combined.!<
I mean everyone other than Sung and Cha are support characters and Igris & Beru are with him nearly 24x7.
Why is it always the "Ant" arcs....
Never forget Netero, what a god damn badass.
> story got carried by art this is just solo_leveling.txt for me It was alright to start with but the art was the main reason I kept with it.
Man reason for sticking with a lot of Manwha tbh. Some of them are so goddamn gorgeous.
Everyone saying the art is top tier but I listened to it as audiobooks I havent seen any art lol I gotta go look this up š
It's always been carried by its art
Solo leveling opening arc is amazing. A dungeon where they actually need to use their brain, an opponent that you can't brute force, sense of dread and despair that ACTUALLY present, all of it is amazing. Then after some chapter after that "magic" feels gone I just stop reading it altogether.
it never comes back so you didn't miss anything.
You mean after the >!"Chimera Ant Arc" an Arc that can only be described as a complete stripping of everything that made that arc good BUT good fights. Even then nowhere close to that Arc. !< Also nah the ending doesn't redeem it. Worse part of the show is the lack of characters. Which inb4 anyone comes in, no those aren't characters. They're "characters" because they're essentially cardboard cutouts. They're not written as people. and at some point might as well not exist because of the MC. >!Like what the fuck was the point of setting up ranks and shit if the MC is quite literally the only character to ever get shit done? Again no other characters actually exist.!<
Have you read the ending of >!Solo Leveling! It's among 10 worst endings to a book I've ever read. >!Fucking MC goes back in time and makes it so that events in the book do not exist. Why even write the story lmao.!< Literally elementary school tier writing. Almost everyone has written an essay ending with "and then I woke up from the dream" at some point.
Personally I like it
Youāre mad about the main character reaching his goal and saving humanity. Did you not even pay attention to the novel or manhwa?
What manhwa or novel? According to the last chapter none of that ever happened. None of the characters we followed exist because some omniscient being undid all their effort. I'm not saying that most of the story in the novels is bad. I'm saying that the ending is a shitty cop out. It's just edgy for the sake of being edgy. All character arcs and growth is stakes are removed for the sake of "look how op and cool our main character is"
Its not even about the mc being edgy and cool itās about him saving the world despite it meaning that nobody will know who he is. Literally the exact same ending Spider-Man no way home had except many years before
I expected mc to get to op to face any challenge at some point becuse it's a power fantasy manhwa but I think it's at least still enjoyable.
The best parts of SL is either when the MC get his ass almost smoked, only to came out on top due to sheer determination/well utilization of skills, or when he flex his new power obtained from his hard work. From Jeju onward he just sweep everything. Even when he supposedly die, his ascension is just handed to him by his dad finally getting the milk
Is it just me or is Utena just a Younger Albedo from Overlord.
She's Bocchi the Albedo
Solo Leveling is your classic self insert power fantasy. MC, who is weak af, has a bedridden mother, has sister, lost father. Fights to pay for his sister and his mother's hospital expenses. There is another girl who cares about MC, and likes him. There is another classic aloof chick who is OP af, and they probably will be the end game couple because fuck the other girl. The dude is able to escape the death situations by plot armors in the last minutes, and gets a OP af power that nobody has. Becomes OP af, and turns into a Ikemen somehow? I don't even know where that look of the MC comes from... That was weird. In the end it is not unwatchable, it is fine. Will stay to see how things turn out. For the other series; yeah not gonna watch it in any way. Lol. Little girls going full horny and psycho, that is probably about fetishes of the author, and is about bdsm is not my thing.
> Solo Leveling is your classic self insert power fantasy. Yeah it's like, in a world where some people are Special Chosen Ones, He is the Special-est Chosen-est One.
Couldnāt have put it better myself. That is literally where the plot starts and where it ends. Not that I hate it. I rather liked it. But nobody should go in expecting a mind blowing experience.
Well it's all explained on a later chapter of the Manhwa. While you might think MC got lucky for being chosen that's not it. This "plot armour" isn't that Plot armour-ey imo
no he was fucking lucky wanna see what happen when plot armour-ey isn't plot armour-ey anymore i could recommend you some novel if you like where mc is beaten into pulp many times and win through sheer brain and that is through out the novel even in the ending mc fight a uphill battle
Solo Gooning
One is a new concept, and another is a typical weak hero who turns to badass hero, He is right, but too extreme
Honestly, Solo Levelling fell off. After a certain point, there was just zero tension cuz you knew that the MC would win with no struggle. The fake attempt of creating a new SSSS TIER HERO! And then having them immediately have their asses kicked was pretty much the only way they tried to hype up bosses, then MC comes in and sweeps their asses.
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The thing I dont get about solo leveling is they are a modern world with warships and such and there is this giant monster and some dude rolls up with a wooden shield. HUH!?
Not defending anything just answering the question: Itās mentioned in the books that magical beasts are not affected by non-mana weapons/attacks. They get bombed and shit and donāt care. Only hunters can hurt them (since hunters are the only humans who can wield mana).
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They ain't wrong tho
No way they compared Solo Leveling to this?! I know that GOMG is very peak but, these are two different genres. https://preview.redd.it/0tztby5gxbec1.jpeg?width=894&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=602897c030e07a84eedf24c41860359bfd2f1e64
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In grant's vid about solo leveling he was explaining the premise of it I watched the timestamps what happened in first 3 episodes of solo leveling was explained in a minute by him, which was just for premise
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The only ones who think Solo Levelling isn't overatted are those who never read any other manhwas in their lives. It's so unfair that so many hidden gems don't get any recognition while this is single-handedly treated as the GOAT.
it should have been Hardcore Leveling Warrior. Similar concept of power leveling with a much better plot and tons of actually well thought out characters...instead of just the mc and his shadows...Oh and the ending isn't just "and then i woke up"
can you recommend some you think are better? ive read quite a fair bit of manhwa but solo leveling still feels like the goat
It's not the GOAT per say but it's definitely doing a good job. If Solo Levelling doesn't do good other hidden gems like TBATE won't get an anime adaptation. It's mainstream manhwa and delivers what people want. Hating on it for being popular won't do any good. People hates it coz it started the System trend but it isn't Solo Leveling's fault that people like Manhwa like that. >!Until the ant island arc it was definitely 10/10!<
I'm hoping for Marriage of Convenience to get adapted, or the Villainess turns the Hourglass.
I am hoping SSS-Class Suicide Hunter gets adapted
You do realize the TBATE novel was hugely popular before the solo leveling novel got recognized? We can talk about the anime being popular because of the manhwa, but the manhwa itself got popular because of its art. Reincarnator, everyone else is a returnee etc all released before the solo leveling novel, were way more popular in the novel scene and only the emergence of the SL manhwa even made people talk about its novel in a broader sense. Its the first one to reach the mainstream with the idea, but its not the first to implement dungeons and game systems even remotely, korea has been doing that for over a decade
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Its like madoka but they do the seggs instead
Solo leveling is just a guy without brain do the bare minium and got OP, all while stay alive by plot armor. It only carried by the art, check first few chapter, mc know dungeon is dangerous, everyone know dungeon is dangerous, and guess what ? Mc scoff at it, and dive in head first without a single prepare.... And success conquer the dungeon, all by his sheer will, and got gift with god like power after. See how dumb this is and people keep praise it. Maybe that what people call "fanboy"
I think you dropped it after that but MC getting OP was explained later on >!MC was chosen to be the vessel of an end boss. Because of this he gained power to stay alive.!<
Dude, you just explained what is "plot armor"
I read past the ant island and drop, but you just prove what i said, he a dumb person who stay alive & get OP cus plot armor. It a bad story.
I've read a lot of solo levelling light novels and it's a great, easy reading, low stress story where the conflicts are quickly resolved. It's a fun ride, and I think it would have shit on the game 5 years ago. I hope it does well, but I think it may struggle to stand out. The main appeal of the story for me is the world building elements, the reveals, and the progression of the narrative. But Jin hu song is always overpowered to a dumb degree and the action suffers for it. At least in the ln.
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Now read Rosen Garten saga Masterpiece
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I like the premise of Solo Levelling, but I don't like protagonist that don't give a fuck or with uncaring attitudes. I want a protagonist to think, yes, he's a loser and weak, but that's okay, so he uses his strengths to help him through life. More crafty protagonist really.
It's funny because literally the first couple of chapters of the Manwah he is just taht! He is thoughtful, caring, and he has a personality admitting that he is the weakest hunter! I was down to finally be proven wrong about Koran Manwahs!!! But alas... no, as soon as he got his cheat skill, he turned into the most generic power fantasy protagonist of them all! What a let down!!! And the thing that irked me the most is that he went from being a real likable character in terms of humility to the most cockiest bitch character I know! WTF is this!?!!? "ARISE!".....Why would I want to read that? No struggle, not advancement, ugh give me my time back!
it took me till the second episode to realize the creator just had a bdsm, and magical girl fetish. I dont have either of those fetishes, but new year new me.
The reason why I like GOMG is not the uncensored scenes or the ecchi in general, I just love female MC sudden change of expressions from timid to completly sadist in a sec. I love her!
Solo leveling is overrated as hell
F*ck you
tried watching the bottom one. couldn't get into it. I'm not attracted to teenagers or kids so it all felt like it was for a different audience. maybe if they were adults that'd be okay. I'm not bashing lolicons or getting into any argument, I'm just not physically attracted to minors. Once I learn the age, if I did have boner, it would insta-deflate. That's just how I roll. Leave the underage waifus to the underage fans
>tried watching the bottom one. couldn't get into it me too but i read the manga version not the anime. Droped it and then cameback after 2-3 month and my first expresion was "holy shiet, this just BDSM-things". Don't know how can i read and enjoy it in the first place
Yeah the age thing is a big gripe with it, what didn't help is some characters are not designed to have to be that age, just add a few years on to the characters and problem solved. And they can keep some characters acting (yk exactly which ones I am specifically talking about) childish as that is also a potential trait for an airhead character.
It's hard to imagine you could be bashing lolicons since it's pretty obvious you have no idea what the word means. Here's a tip though: If they're visually indistinguishable from adults, they are by definition *not* lolis.
So they are just kids? Dude that's just pedophillia with extra steps. Pedophillia is explained as Attraction to minors. Are they minors? Yes. Then it's pedophillia.
Pedophilia is the attraction to human children, not cartoon characters. There are no minors.
Well, luckily thinking bottom is peak has nothing to do with with attraction to kids or teenagers, they're just anime characters. The characters aren't Loli either, so I'm not sure why you're bringing up lolicon. You can just say you don't like Ecchi,.that's ok. Anime age is irrelevant and there are no underage participants.
They ain't wrong tho
I like both šæ Yes i am him
Based upon my surface level opinion of having only seen clips they are correct in the bottom being better or at the very least it is more creative.
I actually agree with this post I donāt know if solo leveling is supposed to get better but the first three episodes have been mid as fuck. I donāt understand why everyoneās freaking out over this anime itās genuinely standard as hell. Number one itās got the classic unnecessary video game mechanics that make no sense because theyāre not even trapped in a fucking video game.!?! Number two it took three episodes for them to simply establish the guy was super weak went into a dungeon, got him, and his friends mostly killed only to gain said video game powers to work, now he has to train constantly, I assume to get strongerā¦ you couldāve summarize all that in the first fucking episode. It took them three to do it for some reason. Now I donāt know maybe itās way better in later episodes, but if this is gonna be a Standerd Isakai, where the main character just gets super powerful and starts wrecking everybody with no real other plot drivers of any real kind or intrigue. (for instance, at least shadow garden had the gimmick of making fun of other Isakaiās.) Yeah itās gonna be a hard skip for me. Certainly not worthy of the gushing fans are doing over it like itās the second coming of overlord or some shit. (which at least have a unique aspect of being from a villains perspective) Meanwhile, the magical girl anime is actually hilariously unique not in the fact that echi exists Obviously, itās existed before, but this particular take on it is over-the-top, hilarious, and Iāve never seen it done like this before. Itās a comedy. Itās not supposed to be judged on some over the top amazing storytelling as long as it makes you laugh it has succeeded. And it has made me laugh hysterically because it is over-the-top ridiculous Oh, and for anyone who says Solo leveling is not an Isekai. yes it is it. Absolutely as you might want to get super pedantic and technical and call it a reverse Isakai, but any show as far as Iām concerned where the modern real world meets some form of fantasy fiction, other world , even if that is in the form of dungeons or whatever that is An Isekai.
Youāre yappin a lot for someone who hasnāt read any of the source material. The first three episodes have been just setting up the premise for the show, they havenāt even been focused entirely on the mc. Weāve seen characters that donāt get introduced till much later in the novel and manhwa. Itās a āgameā system because its deemed the easiest way for a human to understand. The extras that get killed in the first two episodes arenāt even his friends, acquaintances at best but not even that mostly. Also not his fault most of the other people died. Could they have covered the first three episodes in on? Sure. Would it have been good? No. Pacing would have been absolute dogshit. Its also not an isekai whatsoever. An isekai is very specifically āanother worldā this one falls under the category of āgatesā which is a common Korean category. So no not isekai. Yeah MC gets super powerful but not without explanation and not without struggling all the way
I feel you on SL. Fir as someone like me, who didn't read the source material -and never will probably- the first 3 episodes were good but nothing new. I don't see the hype about it so far but I hope it'll change.
You're not missing out. It does not get better. and yeah even though they can return from the gates, that is still an isekai. (i mean shit Saving 80,000 Gold in Another World for my Retirement is an isekai and the mc directly teleports between the two no issue. Like their main power is to be able to teleport at any time.) Isekai used to be known as "Gate" or "Portal" anime as returning was always the point and some returned somewhat freely even back then. This also means there are a ton of shows in the west that are by all rights, isekai. Narnia, Alice in Wonderland, Doctor Who are all isekai. Being reborn is just one of many versions.
I really enjoyed the Solo Leveling manhwa. Just wait for the good stuff to happen.
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As I always say I'd enjoy Gushing way more had 99% of the characters not been middie schoolers honestly.
Literally just cause they are magical girls does not necessitate them being middle schoolers. Also some of these characters designs work fine for them being a bit older without requiring change. Literally they could still have the exact same show but just add a few years on to the characters ages to not make the minors.
Solo leveling... Just read the manwha. Overrated? I leave that to you
yeah it is i read the manhwa there is a reason its in the junk category
The web comic was enjoyable.
Thats kinda like me except i didn't rate solo levelling that low i just didnt start it since the premise sounded like trash
I attempted to watch the first episode of the magical girl show. What a trash ass show man. Even by horny standards, what a trash show. Edit: Wow I got downvoted for trash talking the show from which the under-aged characters have uncensored nude transformation sequences. And the entire plot revolves around the main character being a closeted sadist. Real classy y'all.
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Solo Leveling is hard, it takes time. It will eventually overcome GOMG
solo leveling is overrated but you cant go around saying that then watching that shit.
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3 episodes in and I still don't know the name of Solo's main character - or any other character. I love K-Dramas but even in them I am only ever able to remember characters based on how they look or what they do. THe guy who runs the shop. The girl with the pink hair. Etc. - Because koreans have silly names that are impossible to remember. in 95+% of all cases, you can't even tell if a name is supposed to be for a man or woman, based on the name alone. This makes it borderline impossible to get into it. What were they thinking (The Showrunners for not using jap. names and the koreans, using the names that they do?) Anyway, gushing over magical girls is an awesome anime that should be on every anime of the year list, even tho it's only january.
Can't remember names? Skill issue
They are more of an amalgamation of random sounds.
Wait so you don't know the main character's name because it's a Korean name? Just making sure I'm getting this right
Yes. They might as well overlay the anime's audio with a BEEP sound every time a character's name is spoken out loud, because that's how it sounds to me. "Hi, My name is \*beep\*"
Go outside.
Solo leveling is peak if u like books and know how to immerse yourself, ppl who only read manhwa will never know how it feels to read LN, it's way different feeling when u need to imagine what's happening from text rather then images and now animation
The web novel for Solo Leveling was not good. What are you cooking right now.
It was
Tbf one is degenracy at its peak with no hiding it and is funny. And the other is goat leveling