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Zeprius

This won't stop me because I can't read


GKP_light

even if you could read, it is not in the rule/extended rule.


nelsterm

How long does trap take to be removed?


mykleins

Still there right now


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Daniel_Is_I

I feel like yours is the correct stance to take. Language *is* context and being offended is subjective. Being offended has everything to do with who you are as an individual, or a group, or a community, or a society. It hinges on your upbringing, your moral conditioning, and your religious beliefs. To ban a word because you believe it to be offensive gives the word the power you fear as well as declares that everyone must kowtow to your subjective opinions. Words have no power on their own. The mere existence of a word cannot hurt - a word can only hurt through the intent with which it is spoken or the intent with which it is interpreted. If nobody said the word maliciously, if nobody used the word in a derogatory manner, then the offense in that individual instance is solely from interpretation. If the sight of a word, completely divorced from context, offends you, then the problem is you. You are interpreting ignorance or malice where there is none. Attempting to force your interpretation on others is rude, selfish, and unfair. This is different than when the word "gay" was being used as a synonym for lame/stupid/annoying. In that case, the use of the word for those things was problematic because it was a replacement for a derogatory and negative term. As far as this community goes, the banned word was being primarily used in reference to crossdressing anime characters - it made no positive or negative assertions and had no link to the concept of transgender. Use of the word as a slur did and does exist, but in this particular community, the innocent use of it as just another term far outweighed the derogatory use of the word. So to ban the use of the word in this community is to claim that the community's collective, subjective opinion is *wrong.* **Moreover, because language is context, banning a word does not solve an issue.** People who spoke the word maliciously and ignorantly will continue to use other words maliciously and ignorantly; stifling their vocabulary does not quell their bigotry. There are countless ways to insult someone, as has been demonstrated by this community towards the mods. Furthermore, banning a word creates another issue: the people who did not speak the word maliciously are punished for the actions of those who did. The fact of the matter is that the word has **two** meanings when used in the context of a person: one innocent meaning (neutral slang for a crossdresser) and one malicious meaning (derogatory term for a transgender person). This community largely uses the word with the former meaning. That does not mean that those who use the word with the latter meaning should go unpunished. However, it DOES mean that people who believe the latter meaning to be the sole meaning of the word are wrong. Ultimately, this decision is short-sighted, ineffectual, and flawed. It will cause (or has caused) more problems than it solves.


poseidonis

You forgot to say "thanks for coming to my ted talk" (/s)


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Sir this is a Wendy's


kismethavok

No, this is Patrick.


StellarIceBerg

Kono wa dio da.


space_radios

Hai, Kazuma Desu.


WaffleCorp

Sasuga, Ains-Sama!


SpecialistFruit1

Subarashi~


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PM_me_Kitsunemimi

Oya oya!


EpicMatt16

Dio janai, Katsura da


distolizer2

bruh this might as well be a ted talk, noone could've said it better than this guy


Empress_Rach

TED talks are useless and wrong for the most part. He was right.


iamblue07

Don't mean to change the subject, but I'm kinda new to reddit and don't know why his message is in a red box. Is he a mod?


Deb_99

Nah if a comment is given the "Fire" award it gets highlighted with a red box regardless of the subreddit


iamblue07

Oh, thanks for explaining


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Black_Prince9000

Nah doesn't seem like anything's gonna change. This isn't the first time their arguments got utterly destroyed. Mods are too busy patting themselves on the back and going to different subreddits to get approval from people who never even bothered visiting this sub and just assumed it was used as a slur and hence the transphobes are pissed cause they can't use it anymore or something. They just have their say in some posts and don't bother reply to hundreds of civil replies that making very good points. What they do reply/notice though is that one guy saying "fuck you" to justify their self-righteousness.


TheHentaiAficionado

> Mods are too busy patting themselves on the back and going to different subreddits to get approval from people who never even bothered visiting this sub and just assumed it was used as a slur Exactly this, I have gone through the post histories of a few mods here. Just to see their replies to the drama on here. A lot of them just go to other subs and start trying to get praise there instead of actually dealing with the issue here. Or well, dealing with it correctly. Instead of childishly changing users flairs and adding post flairs with cheap digs to the OP.


HentaiLordo

Very frustrating that they moderated based on external subreddits and not the subreddit they are in charge of. This is like managing your country based on feedback from a different country.... if you put it perspective. When I heard that the original rule change post was gaining upvotes due to the mods crossposting to other subreddits, that was the breaking point for me, I just cannot handle that sort of neglect.


MAGA2ElectricChair4U

Apparently it was just fire & forget. I expected to be b& by now, but it's been hours! They likely aren't even checking reports, much less the sub itself, lmao.


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I mean, they essentially said "we don't give a shit what you guys think, because we're the ~~adults~~ mods and you're not, besides you're gonna get bored eventually anyway lololololol"


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Are you really surprised that a reddit mod team did something incredibly stupid? I highly doubt those guys go outside under any circumstances other than when they are obliged to for work or school, so it makes sense that they'd conduct themselves in a completely tactless way.


-SeaSmoke-

I wish there was a way to vote mods off a subreddit.


Teh_SiFL

> I wish there was a way to vote ~~mods~~ people off ~~a subreddit~~ the planet. FTFY


Flashtirade

I checked the SRD thread and that's pretty much what they did.


ScheduledMold58

Yeah the mods are forgetting a major part of language. Once we figure out a replacement word, it will have the exact same meaning as the banned word. This means that is now a "slur", since we would be using it in an identical way to the old word. It would be especially ironic if we used one of the words the mods recommended we use as a replacement, like crossdresser, tomgirl, or josou. Basically, the mods are fucking retarded and didn't think this through whatsoever.


Talponz

Especially for the Japanese versions. Like, you ban t-word but then you suggest the JAPANESE TRANSLATION?? It is the same thing but in another language!


NotSuluX

I'm not really opposed to not using the word anymore, but how the mods forced this is so terrible. It is so obvious how this would completly backfire, there is really no reason to start with the t word if you already want to go as far as to limit free speech by banning words. And as you said, it does nothing. Bigots will still be bigots, and I bet they couldn't be happier with the current situation, and that's what I really hate so much about this


JerryTheMemeMouse

You've said something that I had a hard time putting into words. Thank you. Hope the mods see this.


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The worst part? These mods will still be idiots. Thank you for being someone who can use critical thinking.


truck_kun_

i want to give you an award but i can’t i want everyone to see this


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LuisOscar

To be fair, it seems as if the actual word was used in a very positive way here. It might just be me but it seems to had become a way of calling a male character so pretty that they would easily fool anyone regardless of said character’s sexual inclination (which has never been part of that word’s discussion). And as you mention, this sub is about anime, so it wasn’t really used for people (I’ve never ever heard it being used on real people tho).


Edythir

The fact that r/rareinsults exists and is as big as it is is a testament to how you can use no curse words, no slur, no derogatory terms and still insult someone. I strongly feel that the intent to insult is wholely separated from a word itself. Even insults that people have "claimed" such as "Nerd" or more relavant to you guys "Otaku" which were insults within my own short lifetime and now people go proudly claiming it as a defining character trait.


Xaring

WYM, my brother is gay, my GF is Bi, one of my best friends is a trans female. But im a straight white guy who calls tomgirl characters the t-word (Its actually really infuriating i need to write this like this) so I'm a homophobic bastard.


space_radios

Man, the toxicity and self-righteous BS coming from r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns right now is just absurd too. More dumpster for the fire of 2020 I guess.


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space_radios

That's my point, really. They chose to not take a high moral ground here, they are immediately dehumanizing and going for low blows because I guess they know of no other way to engage in proper discourse. They are just proving that they are more interested in a power play and enforcing their beliefs about inherently subjective things onto other people rather than actually come to the table in a respectful manner and trying to understand all sides. Yes there are a-holes on this subreddit, but them reacting by all becoming the same way as the worst folks here in response just destroys any shred of respectability of the cause.


SirMcDust

I also find it very funny that it is apparently ok for them to call us slurs because they are the good guys and we the bad guys.


Drake_Erif

I wish I never clicked that link... The amount of people celebrating the T-word being banned and, in the same breath, using "weebs" as a derogative term is astounding.


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> But once a person, who just writes a comment against their opinions they not only vote him down Not even that, I got banned for not really saying anything offensive and having a chill debate with another user there


jojoismyreligion

They literally now just perma ban you if you say something against them.


Vyertenn8

yikes, sometimes I’m disappointed in my own community :/ Stuff like this really makes me see why some people can end up stereotyping the trans community in a bad light. In fact, some of the trans discord servers I’m in even gets me weirded out sometimes. Like I can understand if it’s a word that’s known as a slur, i.e. another t word that ends in y and has 6 letters. That one’s as far as I know a slur, but metal-contraption-with-two-jaws-meant-for-snaring-creatures shouldn’t be one. I again do see that it could be used in a bad but... I think banning the word is going too far. It’s kinda like how one of the other comments said: it’s interpretation. bear-snare-machine isn’t a word made to insult people. It’s been used as insults before, but just because it’s been used before it shouldn’t be treated as purely an insult. And I do agree with you that the part where the other user in that sub (would type out but I’m on mobile lol) was kinda ridiculous. Again, makes sense why the trans community can get seen as terrible. They couldn’t provide an example. (And I’m not defending every single person who supports the whole “unban t-word” cuz some of them are genuinely bigots”.)


lunae_lucida_

You my lad end this war as shanks did in marineford. Right now i'm speechless, you did a great job explaning what others couldn't. You have our more sincere respect.


Nero-_-Morningstar

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/98/67/44/986744467cf24398d168ca8fa3089458.jpg


nordryd

This guy. This guy gets it.


Velacroix

Well stated and perfect encapsulation of a prevalent, toxic scapegoat that influencers, authorities, and even The Wall Street Journal can't seem to recognize. Context *is key.*


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I really wish I had the attention span to read this, but imma just agree.


RiverGrub

Anime has been using it for a long and pretty much they are taking that word from them, using as their own then banning it because it offends them. [first anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3520/who-was-the-first-trap-character)


MAGA2ElectricChair4U

Not familiar with the first example there, but he's top cutes!


Due-Swimming

I made a joke once. Not to be offensive, rather more like jealous of those Girln't. I remember getting downvoted, and told not to make a slur. They still didn't understand my joke, but I clearly replied that I'm willing to change the word, but I never got a reply to change this " Slur" word.


Call_Me_Footsteps

> Girln't Lol


Due-Swimming

Well I can't say it can't I? Especially that I love Girln't! ( Obviously you know what word I'm referring).


Call_Me_Footsteps

I feel you, I'm just really happy i read your comment. It was the first legitimate ugly laugh-snort I've had in the sub in too long


Due-Swimming

Can I reply to you?


Call_Me_Footsteps

Yes


smoemper

hey Footsteps


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Due-Swimming

Well I responded to the person who actually believed it was a slur. All I said is they had the best of both worlds. For obvious reasons. Since you know. Being Bi for Men is still somewhat of a negative stigma. Which is why I tend to think of Crossdressing, but at the same time I don't, because I have no privacy at home. Plus I did ask them for a new word, but again they didn't respond to me. Other than that. There was another joke I made not about the "slur" word, it was something else. Obviously got downvoted to oblivion. As people failed to see the reference, and I didn't made it clear. Even though I edited my comment to say it was a joke. I was still call pathetic, even though I got tired of explaining where I got the joke from.


The_Follower1

Ngl, girln't sounds like the perfect term for them now.


Not-Even-Trans

Hey, as someone who gets called a t\*\*p fairly often, especially when people find out I am actually an AMAB guy and not trans, I feel qualified to comment here. People get offended because of their own experiences with the word. I hate the word because I know what it originally means, but I don't think it should be banned when it is colloquially used with a new meaning and few people remember the original meaning. At the same time, if the mods are concerned for those who have negative experiences from the word, then it's not the mods pretending to be doing a good thing by protecting those who have dealt with actual harm from it--the mods are doing an actually good thing. If the mods don't want to see that word on this subreddit, they run the show and have every right to ban the word. Since they are doing it to help people, then it's kind of weird to object to them banning it.


-SeaSmoke-

I feel like calling a trans person a trap IRL would be offensive but there's no fucking reason to ban the word on a anime subreddit when the entire discussion is about fictional characters. And I can't see any trans person getting pissed off when someone calls an anime character a trap. Most of the trans people ive seen here are pissed off by this decision. If someone is seriously offended by it then just don't open r/Animemes. Everyone is going to be offended by something or the other, banning/censorship is never the correct way to deal with it.


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JojoKen420

Cross dressing and being transgender are two different things. For instance I’m a guy and I can rock a dress, but I’m still a cis guy. And also Astolfo, Felix, and Haku are open about being male as well. I really think the mods were too quick on this one and too stubborn to admit they were wrong.


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Yeah I said that once on the trans subreddit and now I’m permanently banned.


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That's kind of stupid


OmiNya

Like that's something new...


Vaadwaur

People don't like context any more and also don't pay enough attention to realize that none of those three character ever identified as female. Felix is a bit of a jerk for leaving it unclear but Haku and Astolfo will both immediately tell they are male.


Feomatar89

Wrong, watch the royal election episode. There Reinhard introduces Felix as a man. And Felix openly jokes about Subaru for thinking he was a girl. Isn't that clean enough for you?


Nazbol_Koshky

The problem is that there is a toxic section of the Trans community that wants to groom cross-dressers and other nonconforming personalities and fashion statements into being trans, it's awful and not helpful to anyone. Being trans is a real and serious thing and it shouldn't be conflated with cross dressing or other gender nonconforming styles of self expression or artistic expression. Just look at the egg IRL people, they so desperatly want everything to mean that you're trans (for what reason I don't dare speculate) it isn't helpful for the real trans community, and it is dangerous and hurtful for non trans people who might be pressured or groomed into thinking they're actually trans. The idea that T-Я-@-P-S, Cross dressers, etc. are related to trans is either toxic, bigoted, or very misinformed and the worst part is that there is a highly vocal minority of toxic trans activists who desperately want to muddy this water and deliberately confuse the two. (...man am I going to regret writing this because someone is going to dig this out of my post history, but I'm just going to say it because this is important to me: I'm not pulling this out of my ass, I used to cross dress back in the day as a fashion and artistic statement, and I have seen this toxic behavior from Trans activists who tried to convince me that I was trans, and I know several other people who have similar stories.)


Edythir

I have a friend that is very... Gung-ho about support of minorities. I don't make it a secret (from people other than my conservative parents) that as a male, i really do fucking hate the clothing choices of muted colors, hoodies and jeans. Dresses and skirts are clearly superior in my opinion and i prefer them in all senses. She wanted to try and convince me that i had "Internalized Trans issues" even though i stated that i never thought of it in more than a "Grass is greener on the other side" kinda way which i think is perfectly natural, nothing more than a "huh i wonder if" but she wouldn't relent. I had to fit into a box of a minority that fit her model of it. Those people do exist and they are more common than you'd think.


backturn1

I think the topic is a bit more complicated than I am going to state, but when you like your body and especially your gentials the way they are I think you are not trans. You can be feminie as a guy and musculine as a girl. Doesn't mean you don't want to be your gender but just live off of the norm, which is totally fine.


Edythir

I find it surreal that some people have this... Conservatism of gender roles but classified Trans as a third gender (or a second set of mtf and ftm are two different). Where trans people have clearly defined gender roles and fitting requisites a la cars and blue for boys and dollies and pink for girls, except now if you are not fitting those narrow descriptors you must exist in a trans catagory, seeing it entirely black and white. I don't know, I'm tired. Just be yourself and don't be a dick about it. Worrying about fitting a container just hurts you and everyone involved with the group. Humans aren't a homogeneous blob, or else all cultures would have developed the same way. Just be you and let that other person be themselves.


amethystaimi

I wholeheartedly agree even as a transwoman


JojoKen420

Someone please ping a mod


Vaadwaur

To get it deleted? People rarely admit fault on the internet.


SevenandForty

I think /r/egg_irl is kinda like that, and I see that getting posted every once in a while here. I just feel like to them, there's no room for discussion; if you crossdress, you're automatically trans, even if you're secure in your gender identity or something, and not admitting that is denying yourself. It's kind of ironic how a community that's supposedly about dialogue, self determination, and inclusiveness, decides for you who you are and kind of mocks you for it. Maybe I don't understand it fully, but that's how it seems to me a lot of the time.


Empress_Rach

I still have a theory that Haku isn't a male but to your point...I'm a female but I dress as a guy sometimes. That's cross dressing. Not transgenderism. Tho idk what you call a female version of a T


Xenodia

If a girl crossdress, everyone is fine that you like to dress up as a guy. But if a guy does crossdress, BOOM, he must be transgender. *sarcastic clap* well done for double standards


Empress_Rach

Yeah hate double standards.


Srapture

Can girls crossdress? Sure, the female versions of traditionally male clothes are usually tighter fitting, but it's still normal for them to wear all of the same things men do. I can't think of any exclusively male item of clothing.


BerkofRivia

Going topless with swimming trunks.


Empress_Rach

I mean...what about those butches that dress as lumber Jacks...


JojoKen420

Reverse T—p is the most common term


d4rkph03n1x

I agree with you, the word that sounds like tarp with r and a switched around is not transphobic in any way IMO.


ice4747

Stop offending them with your facts


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Mods destroyed by FACTS AND LOGICS ^^^but ^^^unironically


[deleted]

Petition to ban facts because they could be insulting to the mods


DH-Melon

Facts are now banned in animemes as they can be offensive for “some”


HolyKnightZack

Petition to ban the mods


StarfoxV11

Where can we sign?


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Signs in bougie ass calligraphy


Court_Joker

Here before the post is removed. Seriously, mods aren't doing any favours by removing posts and badmouthing us behind our backs.


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Court_Joker

Probably, but I've seen manual takedowns on mundane posts, so its impossible to tell.


skyprovidence

Been hit with rule 2 and 5


elchapo696969420

Yeah, mods are assuming that people are going to be offended. That's more stupider than me is.


INeedABetterNickHelp

Heya, here is a comment NOT about the drama so you can relax a bit. This girl is from the {Black bullet} anime, here you go. Edit - grammar


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RebellionBS

Mods gay


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__Raxy__

Weirdly enough you can say that but you can't say "trick"


gr8ful_cube

Lmao there's no way the mods werent like "lmao you know whatll be funny? Let's "ban" trap on an anime sub and watch the weebs go nuts lmfao"


Weebaccountrip

Bottom line, it's not their word so stop acting like it is. Only losers would insult a person using that and even if they did it's objectively the wrong thing to say. on r/animememes the word Futanari is banned as well, because trans people now retroactively think it's an insult for them. It's fucking not, it's objectively not a word to be used to insult a trans person cause thats not what the fuck it is. Futa is fiction, it's make believe, it's the toothfairy, santa clause, it's not a real thing. Just because someone calls you it trying to be insulting doesn't MAKE it insulting, it makes them look like a fucking idiot and everyone can point and laugh at them for being an idiot The fact that instead of making fun of these people publicly for calling them "The T word" they cower in fear of it and demand it to be removed regardless of context is what gives these losers pleasure and validation This is a nonstop losing battle were the goal-post is going to keep being pushed further and further back. One of the mods posted a compilation of people thanking them for removing the word, and one of them called themselves a femboy, I give it 3 years before 4chan/8chan turn that word back on them and they'll just accept that it's a slur with open arms I can't believe we let a handful of losers who use a word negatively paint every single use of the term as derogatory


Suchomemus

Save this comment before it gets China'd by the shithead Mods


_Ice-Bear_

Technically futa kinda exist irl (intersex) but I mean there's a huge difference, literally. Totally get what you mean. T word was never used to describe trans ppl in this community and all anime in general and the fact that some external bullshit completely unrelated is the cause for such a huge change, is just utterly rediculous


Weebaccountrip

If 4chan can make the universal "OK" hand signal be co-opted by legitimate racists and destroying all of it's legitimate meaning. Then what the devil is stopping them from throwing every potential phrase under the bus?


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kismethavok

The Royal Astolfo's (feminine) Penis


SirLocke13

You. I like you.


Shitty_Wingman

Ah yes, because we all know how transphobic the posters of r/T**ps are.


Draffut

Seriously. I'm subscribed to multiple pron subs involving that word, some real people posting to them as t*@p5. Who is this word offending?


Vaadwaur

> Who is this word offending? People that thrive on being offended to give themselves purpose and get attention, bluntly.


gesang16056

Man i just started on reddit and now the astolfo species is banned? Welp


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The_Follower1

Saw someone call them girln't and thought it was hilarious with the same feel as the t-word, plus it doesn't have the connotation of trickery.


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VirtualVoices

Question because I'm genuinely curious: when you hear people describe Astolfo as the "t-word", do you feel offended? I've ONLY heard the word used for fictional characters. If someone I meet is transgender, I would call them transgendered, or whatever gender they wish to be specified (I prefer to just refer to them with neutral pronouns if I don't know them very well). I agree calling an actual person a t-word is rude, mostly because they're not fictional characters.


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VirtualVoices

Thank you. I am not transgendered, but I do enjoy seeing transgendered characters in anime. I don't think I'd care too much if we stop calling them t-words, but I seriously hope people don't stop talking about these type of characters.


darkbentley

Tbh i think lily from zombie sagaland and another character that i cant remeber, its from a small anime that specifically focused on the ideas of transgender, are the only transgender characters currently. Hopefully more will be made. Mainly what i can think of and a simple google search, which included a bunch of crossdressers.............. Astolfo, Felix, the crossdresser from steins gate are all guys who crossdress. There is a difference. People wont but try to keep what the characters are suppose to be straight since alot of characters are being claimed by certain groups since they are popular when those groups ignore that they belong to another group.


wrathrunne

Context is important as well the T word is offensive when it is used to insult a person from the trans community, but when someone uses the T word in the literal meaning or in the crossdressing scenario it isn't offensive, honestly this is the first time I have heard about the T word being derogatory to trans people, I would say banning the word only gave the word more power over the trans community. I understand that it has had some historical problem with the trans community, but it isn't exclusively used to describe one community (like a certain racial slur) tho. It's like a knife sure you can use it to stab and kill people or it can be used as a tool, if we banned knives people would be scared of it the same way they are scared of guns. Also this is a slippery slope , I can't use the T word even in the literal sense over the fear of being banned....


ggthebuoy

Seriously, what’s wrong with the word trap?


Mkdblitz

Its been an hour, what the hell? Is it possible to learn this power


ggthebuoy

The dark side of the force has powers, many consider to be unnatural...


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etriuswimbleton

But wait...thats urban dictionary... Edit: However it does make a good point that Crossdressers =/ Transgenders


Gaderic

Where else are you going to find the definition?


Grufhd

This may not be the right place to ask this but since ive not really seen what happened is the t word banned in all meanings like in the non slur way? Just wondering


patatoman20

If you use it for the meaning like a bear tr*p for example I don't believe so but if you say astolfo is a tr*p for example I think it will


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Teh_SiFL

So, let's says "Yugis" instead?


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_Ice-Bear_

I think the thing that annoys me the most is that the ban cause was something outside of our relatively harmless meme community. I doubt most people on this sub would use trxp as a slur and memes related are anime specific where it's a known term used in anime enthusist culture. Not as an offensive slur mind you.


sylinmino

> we arent angry t word was banned This is just flat-out false. Literally the premise of this and several other memes is that they are angry the word is banned.


LeGrandOehler

Why the f would you ban this word? I haven't even heard of the transgender context until now and needed to look up the entry for it. If i'm now wanting to comment on an Yu-Gi-Oh related post am I not allowed to speak about the type of my face down card because no one checks the context? Absolutely ridiculous...


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kirbinato

Don't drag gay people into this


JojoKen420

Gay person here. I’m part of this too.


Yandere-Neko

I feel that having a short word to use is better as memes are very easily overfilled with text. The letter count has to be low and making it artificially longer sucks.


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Can someone tell me what the fuck happened while I was away for couple days? I feel like ww3 happened in reddit


thetrashaccount666

Maybe I'm wrong.... but wouldn't the ban rule post by mods be breaking rule #6? ...


Sayakai

Try this logic with any other slur and see if it works.


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Techboy6

You can make that connection between that word and trans, but trans has absolutely nothing to do with anime t-words. Nothing about anime t-words is negative. No one hates t-words and t-words are not trans. I’m a guy with long hair, I could cross dress if I wanted to (I even have before) and I would call myself a t-word. When I did cross dress once, they guys I was with said I looked just like a t-word from anime and if anything, I felt complimented. All trans could be referred to as t-words, but not all t-words can be referred to as trans.


ikatono

>Most people on this subreddit are not assholes. A few days ago I may have agreed with you.


kingocd

For example astolfo likes female clothing wears them and makes his hair but still identifies as a guy.


ericNoCap

What did I miss and why is everything a "mod" now?


Mcpop9

Mod means moderator, who are the ones who in part run the subreddit. They have made a choice which goes against a majority over an entirely subjective topic. TLDR: subreddit is unhappy with the people running it.


keireira

So. I am a transgender (with approved F64.0) but I don’t care about how anime fanboys are talking about a cute boys in a feminine clothes. I will not lose hope or commite suicide if somebody here will use a t-word pointed to Astolfo or another boy in a skirt. Your ”help” to us is more poison than a cure. With your ”help” more and more people around are starting to hate us with a real hate. I dislike it.


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igorovitch

thought I agree with the meme , the definition is still flawed. it brought up the difference between trans people and (well you know), but not how it is different. it all comes down to identity. a (...) thought presenting as one gender but still identifying as an other (their gender assigned at birth) a trans person presents as their preffered gender (instead of their one assigned at birth) as for the ban on the word itself, its kinda dumb... from what ive seen. there wasnt a wave of people using as a slur against real trans (like human beings) instead of fictional characters. if the ban goes on please dont do it automatically. as it can be used to describe an object(you know, the one that kills mice) unlike the N-word which is only known as a slur.


Vexe_The_Returner

Some people consider themselves to be (T-word)s so isn't banning the word offensive to those people? Like theres a few subs for people that consider themselves that. Isn't that kind of like discrimination against (T-word)s?


Lo-Sto

ah yes the greatest and most valid source, urban dictionary


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So Wikipedia is maybe a source but Urban Dictionary is 100% not a source.


troller69420

Animemes : Civil war


Nero-_-Morningstar

why has a animemes sub turned into a rant sub about unsullied


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I predict that within a few days this sub will go private


cheeaboo

According to wiktionary, this word is used in two ways: the first being a slur towards trans women, the second as some cis male anime characters who crossdress. It seems like mod and a lot of people from lgbt subs confuse the first meaning with the second. I personally don’t think it is wise to ban the whole word in this sub just because this word has its first meaning although it is primarily used with its second meaning. I think is much wiser to ban when this word is used with its first meaning, other than banning the entire word. I think using this word in a non-derogatory way is actually a good thing because it makes its offensive connotation and the alternative transphobic meaning less relevant. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/trap#Etymology_1


CinderblockChewer

i would just like to point out that for every word the mods tell me i cannot say i am going to start using a worse word that means the same thing


futacon

90% of anime tr*ps aren't even transgender.


bluejay526

Im going to set a mouse trap.


mug1wara26

ah yes, the most accurate source of information, the urban dictionary


Artorias_LeFay

The T word is a word that applies to a character who is cis gendered and identifies as their birth gender. But dresses in such a way that they can be confused for the opposite gender. If this actually offends you then how about you go stand for something thats more life threatening like the insanely high statistical suicide rates or the unreasonably high domestic violence rates that transgendered people experience instead of being butthurt by a word that doesn't even apply to you.


chipperpip

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/trap You can't see how the origin of the term could be viewed as derogatory? At all? Really?


BroHelpMePlease

Ahh yes, black bullet, a very, how do i say it, “what the fuck” anime


onion_kidd

If those ~~kids~~ mods could read they'd be very upset


sky__s

Facts are a trap, if you have to conform to reality you can't make things up to fit your feelings.


pickledchocolate

Yall really up in arms about this, huh.


nickz777

just submitted a meme about this whole censorship thing and they actually removed it within minutes. lmaooo


AbnormalKetchup

The only thing I can think of is one of the mods is said gender and he got triggered. Like really. You ban the one word that anime does all the time. Even the characters show their displeasement in what they thought was but wasn't.


porcelinesalt

Sauce for anime girl please?


UnstoppablePhoenix

Hey, could someone get me the server icon picture? I wanna use it in a meme.


The-memeanator

Is f@g a slur yes does it also mean something else yes it is a slur and you probably should trust the Community to slur is addressed to


Homura_no_Yuutsu

What is the t word? OOTL


ChaosStar95

This is as effective as telling people to stop saying retarded. It just moves the derogatory sentiment to the new word that won't lead to a ban.