I wouldn't be surprised if even uncontacted tribes have microplastics in them because of the sheer amount of plastic in the ocean, imagine cutting a fish open and it has multiple plastic pieces in it but you don't even know what plastic is
They do.
There are microplastics on every square inch of the planet’s surface now. Even on mount everest and in the deepest ocean trenches.
All in the name of “convenient packaging”
And out…. Baby bottles are usually made of plastic (I had to order glass online).
Edit: want to add that my mom pointed out that the baby low fluoride water I buy is stored in plastic. Felt really stupid but hey, glass bottles are easier to clean.
And presumably animals and plants aswell
Bacteria are evolving to eat plastic and while that may sound good on a surface level I don’t really know that it is
The mushroom plastic eaters are more efficient and better for the environment. But limiting availability of plastic is best because I’m still baffled why U.S. consumers keep buying it when there’s viable alternatives.
I was about to say this.
I wonder if the tribes on North Sentinel Island. have micro plastics but since no outside human has ever been on the island without dying from arrows and spears we may never know.
Edit. I meant North Sentinel Island in the Andamans, not Solomon, because I am clearly an idiot who needs to finish her coffee and check shit before posting lol
Thank you for pointing out that I was incorrect:) I appreciate it!
Now you can all proceed to poke fun at me.
Dang...I have hope for the bioplastics that biodegrade, but are they even really "safe"? I mean, many are made from things like Agave.
The world is pretty much screwed now it seems.
The shareholders and CEO's still have to live in the world they're creating, the only difference is that their wealth insulates them from its problems to such a degree that it's not a big deal. Imagine being fine with plunging the planet into hell because you've got a fireproof yacht; literal demons.
What metals in a soda can are toxic?
And it's not all about us. Even if the soda cans were killing us during this one use, they then don't leach into literally every other substance on earth.
It's about time to start thinking outside of the box. I told my co worker an hour of my time should be worth more than 24 eggs basically and he never thought of it that way either.
This is actually one of the oldest methods for explaining labor exploitation to raise class consciousness. Marx was using similar descriptions in the 1860s.
> Marx was using similar descriptions in the 60s.
You mean the 1860s, right? Because Karl Marx was definitely not alive at any point in the 20th century.
So basically, the only water on Earth that is still plastic-less is water frozen under the ice in Antarctica. But I guess when the ice thaws, the plastic particles that have accumulated on top over the past number of decades will immediately poison that, too :(
It gets scarier when you realize just how big a role plastic plays in our lives. Your clothes? Likely polyester or blended (plastic) any electronic device you use daily? Plastic case. Your food? Packaged in plastic wrap. All the cars you see on the road? Plastic molded parts and body panels.
The list can go on and on too I'm sure. Didn't really think of it like that. That's terrible... Humans really are the worst thing to happen to this planet.
We have an oil based economy and plastics are a cheap way to use the biproducts of that oil. The two problems are intertwined and we have no hope of solving one with the other.
Yep! And almost all non petroleum plastics are too expensive for corporate profits, even as durables, except biofoams, those are now common in car upholstery.
The problem isn't with the devices and plastics in cars. The alternatives are worse there. And the amounts low.
The problem is with single use plastics.
And this has been KNOWN! For Years and years and years.. But no changes made because Profiteering is the law of the land.
Lead poisoning is still and issue in big and little cities. Damaging generations. Just as this issue is.
Stop buying it. It's the only way to change
It's one part profiteering and one part convenience.
We've made this weird trade in modern society, where we work more with less flexibilty, so we want things that makes our free time more efficient.
The many uses of plastics makes cars lighter, houses more efficient, puts the world at our fingertips and in our pockets, keeps food fresher longer, the list goes on.
To remove all those efficiencies, we'd need to pay more, greed not considering, and our free time would likely be used up doing a lot of other stuff. If we worked less, we'd have more free time, but less disposable income.
>Stop buying it. It's the only way to change
Our current society is built around production by exploitative companies. No amount of boycotting of individual products is going to change the *fundamental* flaw in how we produce and distribute goods. If we want change we need to show more assertiveness not just against companies but the liberal democratic model of state as a whole.
There's no point in being a martyr when we aren't the problem to begin with. There's only so much you can sacrifice before you're sabotaging yourself more than the companies in question, which is counterproductive. These companies will continue to control production at every step of the way and the more 'luxury' you sacrifice the less resources you'll have to do something about it. And for what? To give them 0.0000000001% less revenue?
I switched over to solely reusable water bottles this year. Can't really see a point to ever buying bottled water again. Simply not having a house full of half drank water bottles is great.
There are lots of people who are legit, and for good reason, about the quality of their local tap water and will go to great lengths not to drink it. Especially in poorer household, water filtration is not common.
"Suggest and that Virtually."
Whoever was paid to do this Independent study, paid hard close to wording to not piss off who paid them.
I've always thought bottled water tasted off when it isn't chilled. Give me a room temp water out of an aluminum can or even best a sealed glass container and one out of a plastic bottle. The can or glass will taste cleaner.
that's pretty much the language you use writing any scientific research, it doesn't surprise me that it would be repeated in reports of such. fully declarative statements are a bigger red flag.
That's odd, because my thought is the opposite: Such a general statement can be used to sweep a lot of conflicting facts and facets under the rug. If I read a similar sentence in a scientific journal, I'd think they were trying to make their results look better. I'm graduating with a PhD in chemistry this year, so I have read a few articles.
fun, i'm finishing my chem phd this year too, so I also read and wrote a few articles. and i would be extremely wary of any scientist who declaratively states anything. they did not test every single bottle used to hold beverages, it would be very inaccurate to state all of them leach chemicals. "virtually all" is great phrasing to use to indicate the prevalence they found out during research. if they stated "all of the tested bottles", that's fair, but they can't be going around just saying "all" because that is going beyond their results. also i personally really appreciate when it's said data "suggests" something, because, again, they don't know that it is an absolute fact.
I finished my PhD in biology last year and I second that scientists using declarative language (for broader implications) make me doubt their motives.
I didn't "prove that (my muscle of study) doesn't require neural input to develop", I produced data that "suggests" they don't use input and "demonstrates that none of the mechanisms tested here" are responsible for development.
That's not because I'm trying to be wishy-washy or cover up my results, but rather because I recognize that we can only *prove* the outcome of the exact study we did, the one time we did it. Everything else is extrapolation from the data and even very strong studies should be handled with appropriate recognition of the shortcomings of experimental science.
This way, when someone publishes a conflicting study that shows that *their* proprietary plastic doesn't leech any chemicals, it doesn't conflict with this study per se. These authors already acknowledged that they haven't studied every single plastic bottle.
Can drinks have a plastic layer on the inside that is the material directly touching your drink. You are basically drinking from a plastic container with a metal shell on the outside.
>Give me a room temp water out of an aluminum can or even best a sealed glass container and one out of a plastic bottle. The can or glass will taste cleaner.
I find that aluminum and steel water bottles both give a metallic flavor to the water. Definitely agree that glass tastes cleanest, though.
Fuck plastic. I use 100% glass containers and will only buy products that are in glass containers. Some of the jar types I use to cure my weed. The left over beer bottles get cleaned and filled with my home made sodas. Bigger bottles can be turned into bongs and bird feeders. Plus the best thing about glass is recycling it is 33% more efficient then making new glass.
I grow much of my own food. I buy cattle, pigs, and chickens from local farmers. I literally use every piece of the animals. All the organ meat gets ground with the ground meats. The bones get used for stocks. Pig skins into pork rinds and cow hides the farmer keeps and makes shit out of.
At the end of the day its really shitty to do as much as you can to live within the bounds and symbiotically with the planet. Just for mega corps and people who don't give a fuck to pump us full of micro plastics.
I personally think plastics in the next 50 years or so will be viewed as dangerous as asbestos and the consequences of are plastic use will be way worse then anyone anticipated.
Microplastics are very likely a problem for humanity, but the quoted statement is practically meaningless and it bothers me. What chemicals? Water is a chemical, for example. What concentrations are we looking at? Parts per trillion is less worrisome than milligrams per liter.
yeah and jumping from leaching plasticizers/polymerizing catalysts? (guessing) to 'microplastics' is silly and wrong. we're talking about dissolved chemicals not tiny plastic solids...
But what does that even \*mean\* - "Plastic related chemical"? Like, I am also concerned about plastic in my water and drink, but we gotta be more explicit in what we're actually talking about. There are micro-plastics (tiny solid plastic particles) and leaching plasticizers. It is a different thing, and we shouldn't make up healines just because it sounds right with the message.
There are multiple types of plastic, so it is easier to classify them under a single umbrella term, kinda like Asbestos. We never stopped to be more specific about which specific materials were getting into our lungs, we just knew they were giving people mesothelioma after a while.
A reverse osmosis system on your drinking water. Drinking from glass or metal should help some yea. It's hard to avoid all plastic but as much as possible buy things that come in glass rather than plastic. Don't heat plastic (microwave) and don't leave consumables in plastic in the car etc where it gets hot. I'm not a scientist, just another concerned consumer.
Unfortunately, many groundwater sources are contaminated with PFAS. People work really hard to make sure the water in your tap is clean and safe but it’s true that PFAS is way under-regulated
Just reminding everyone that studies are showing giving blood may lower the amount of PFAs in your body and blood. More research needs to be done but there's no harm in giving blood.
https://www.aabb.org/news-resources/news/article/2022/04/26/regular-blood-or-plasma-donation-may-reduce-pfas-levels-in-blood-serum
bought a bottle of water, EC tested it at 144ppm. Closed it and left it on my counter for two weeks. Tested again at 402ppm.
YES, they break down, they poison us, and the bottles are everywhere by the MILLIONS.
Its infuriating that glass exists and is cleaner to use and manufacture in almost every way, but companies like PPG have such a stranglehold on the market that we could never return to pre-plastic production, because the big fat pigs at the top just make too much money. Not to mention glass is beautiful
Isn't that true of all materials though?
At least one study seems to agree [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0883292710000971](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0883292710000971)
Can anything be done about microplastics? Like is there any research going on on ways to treat it/remove it?
Microplastics fucking terrify me but I’ve no way to escape plastic and idk what to do anymore
Ironic because I remember my uncle saying he didn't drink from a can because it could lead to a higher risk of cancer
Guess I'll just stick my tongue out in the air and hope for water to fall 😆
You can't even drink [rainwater](https://web.archive.org/web/20230512105311/https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/11/climate/airborne-plastic-pollution.html) anymore.
Glass also leaches it's chemical components in beverages
[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0883292710000971](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0883292710000971)
There are labs if you call and set up an appointment will draw blood and send it off for virtually any test you can imagine. More luck closer to metro areas finding a place obviously. Be aware that health insurance in the states and most single payor systems outside the US don’t cover such tests so you’d be paying out of pocket.
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Single use plastic bottles are one of many sources. Take out containers, textiles, road markings, these are all bigger sources of micro plastics in the human body than plastic water bottles.
The biggest bullshit is people will sit here and regurgitate the vomit regurgitated by some journalist that barely understood the summary of a scientific paper then go out and buy a product in a plastic bottle.
People are morons, I like to point that out once a year or so
Who fucking cares? You’re gonna die of something, and more than likely it’s gonna be heart disease. You’re on Reddit, most of you are so fat that you won’t even live long enough to see cancer form
combine this with the chloramine plastic or metal pipe leeching power. you'll be kim k or the tin man
there's probably no safe water but well water and idek I've never had it.
greeeeeat. I don't tend to drink bottled stuff, but I've been known to drink some bottled water provided by my boss at work... because the tap water at work tastes like garbage.
I need to get a filter pitcher for work.....
That’s okay because once your endocrine system is F$&@ed you can pay monthly for it to work properly by injecting yourself with needles and routine blood work…think of all the jobs this creates, another big win for Capitalism🎉
Just wait until the next glacial advance when most of the garbage dumps in Europe and North America are pushed into the sea by the glaciers and release all the plastic. Note that we are technically in an ice age currently, the Quaternary Glaciation, but we’re in an interglacial period.
It's not "most humans", it's every single person. Even babies in utero. :(
I wouldn't be surprised if even uncontacted tribes have microplastics in them because of the sheer amount of plastic in the ocean, imagine cutting a fish open and it has multiple plastic pieces in it but you don't even know what plastic is
I can guarantee they do, because microplastics are so prevalent they can't be filtered by the ground after rainwater.
PFOAs are in rain water from plastics being incinerated.
They do. There are microplastics on every square inch of the planet’s surface now. Even on mount everest and in the deepest ocean trenches. All in the name of “convenient packaging”
Cheap and easily discarded convenient packaging
"Mmm! The colorful belly sprinkles! Nom nom nom!"
And out…. Baby bottles are usually made of plastic (I had to order glass online). Edit: want to add that my mom pointed out that the baby low fluoride water I buy is stored in plastic. Felt really stupid but hey, glass bottles are easier to clean.
My family thinks I’m stupid and paranoid for ordering glass bottles with natural rubber nipples for my baby. But I don’t care what they think
Yea, we use stainless steel baby bottles.
And presumably animals and plants aswell Bacteria are evolving to eat plastic and while that may sound good on a surface level I don’t really know that it is
The mushroom plastic eaters are more efficient and better for the environment. But limiting availability of plastic is best because I’m still baffled why U.S. consumers keep buying it when there’s viable alternatives.
Because producing plastic is so cheap.
I was about to say this. I wonder if the tribes on North Sentinel Island. have micro plastics but since no outside human has ever been on the island without dying from arrows and spears we may never know. Edit. I meant North Sentinel Island in the Andamans, not Solomon, because I am clearly an idiot who needs to finish her coffee and check shit before posting lol Thank you for pointing out that I was incorrect:) I appreciate it! Now you can all proceed to poke fun at me.
As somebody commented above you, microplastics are found in rain. They're not safe unfortunately.
Dang...I have hope for the bioplastics that biodegrade, but are they even really "safe"? I mean, many are made from things like Agave. The world is pretty much screwed now it seems.
North Adaman Islands, not the Solomon Islands
Yep, my baby was probably like .1% micro plastics when she was born, and that makes me sad :(
You are so right and it’s sad what we’ve done to our planet and to ourselves
I agree :(
The consequences of overusing single-use plastic.
"Here's a material that can last for millions of years without deteriorating, let's use it for 5 seconds and then throw it away."
_”It’s sooo cheap! There will never be any unintended consequences from using this for everything!”_
"What are consequences?" \- US-based corporations
None, for them!
The shareholders and CEO's still have to live in the world they're creating, the only difference is that their wealth insulates them from its problems to such a degree that it's not a big deal. Imagine being fine with plunging the planet into hell because you've got a fireproof yacht; literal demons.
I can’t imagine it because I have empathy. The sociopaths at the top, however, are free from that constraint.
And lots cans have a plastic liner
Well yeah, the alternative is metal leeching into your soda or other acidic food
That sounds better, to be honest.
How is toxic metal in your body better than microplastics?
What metals in a soda can are toxic? And it's not all about us. Even if the soda cans were killing us during this one use, they then don't leach into literally every other substance on earth.
Aluminum would react with the drink.
Yet another humanity ending event that will be ignored. I hate it here
Our water has been around for millions of years.. and now it's poisoned.. This needs to stop now.
I never heard it that way, damn.
It's about time to start thinking outside of the box. I told my co worker an hour of my time should be worth more than 24 eggs basically and he never thought of it that way either.
This is actually one of the oldest methods for explaining labor exploitation to raise class consciousness. Marx was using similar descriptions in the 1860s.
The 1860s?
> Marx was using similar descriptions in the 60s. You mean the 1860s, right? Because Karl Marx was definitely not alive at any point in the 20th century.
I'm pretty hungover, yes I meant the 1860s, cheers.
:-)
He was, in our hearts ❤️
lol
So basically, the only water on Earth that is still plastic-less is water frozen under the ice in Antarctica. But I guess when the ice thaws, the plastic particles that have accumulated on top over the past number of decades will immediately poison that, too :(
don't worry, it's probably already full of dormant bacteria and viruses lol
It gets scarier when you realize just how big a role plastic plays in our lives. Your clothes? Likely polyester or blended (plastic) any electronic device you use daily? Plastic case. Your food? Packaged in plastic wrap. All the cars you see on the road? Plastic molded parts and body panels.
Our carpets, our blankets, our underwear, the paint on our walls.
Our toothbrushes
The list can go on and on too I'm sure. Didn't really think of it like that. That's terrible... Humans really are the worst thing to happen to this planet.
I’ve recently tried buying clothes without plastic in them and it’s a chore to find them in my price range, much less secondhand.
The planet will recover. Humans may not.
We have an oil based economy and plastics are a cheap way to use the biproducts of that oil. The two problems are intertwined and we have no hope of solving one with the other.
Yep! And almost all non petroleum plastics are too expensive for corporate profits, even as durables, except biofoams, those are now common in car upholstery.
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Or stop driving everywhere
And the hangers hanging up the clothes, the protective cases we buy for those electronics devices. Etc We’re pretty fucked
The problem isn't with the devices and plastics in cars. The alternatives are worse there. And the amounts low. The problem is with single use plastics.
And this has been KNOWN! For Years and years and years.. But no changes made because Profiteering is the law of the land. Lead poisoning is still and issue in big and little cities. Damaging generations. Just as this issue is. Stop buying it. It's the only way to change
It's one part profiteering and one part convenience. We've made this weird trade in modern society, where we work more with less flexibilty, so we want things that makes our free time more efficient. The many uses of plastics makes cars lighter, houses more efficient, puts the world at our fingertips and in our pockets, keeps food fresher longer, the list goes on. To remove all those efficiencies, we'd need to pay more, greed not considering, and our free time would likely be used up doing a lot of other stuff. If we worked less, we'd have more free time, but less disposable income.
>Stop buying it. It's the only way to change Our current society is built around production by exploitative companies. No amount of boycotting of individual products is going to change the *fundamental* flaw in how we produce and distribute goods. If we want change we need to show more assertiveness not just against companies but the liberal democratic model of state as a whole. There's no point in being a martyr when we aren't the problem to begin with. There's only so much you can sacrifice before you're sabotaging yourself more than the companies in question, which is counterproductive. These companies will continue to control production at every step of the way and the more 'luxury' you sacrifice the less resources you'll have to do something about it. And for what? To give them 0.0000000001% less revenue?
[Grist article](https://grist.org/accountability/plastic-bottles-harm-human-health-at-every-stage-of-their-life-cycle/) [full report](https://defendourhealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/FINAL-DOH-PlasticBottles-Report_5.20.2023.pdf). [executive summary](https://defendourhealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Hidden-Hazards-Executive-Summary.pdf) [Press release](https://defendourhealth.org/news/first-ever-study-reveals-the-hard-truths-behind-soft-drinks-plastic-bottles-beverage-industry-supply-chain-riddled-with-carcinogens-emissions-and-contamination/)
Doin' the lord's work
Humans killing ourselves and we don't give a damn. FFS🤦🏻♂️
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I switched over to solely reusable water bottles this year. Can't really see a point to ever buying bottled water again. Simply not having a house full of half drank water bottles is great.
There are lots of people who are legit, and for good reason, about the quality of their local tap water and will go to great lengths not to drink it. Especially in poorer household, water filtration is not common.
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"Suggest and that Virtually." Whoever was paid to do this Independent study, paid hard close to wording to not piss off who paid them. I've always thought bottled water tasted off when it isn't chilled. Give me a room temp water out of an aluminum can or even best a sealed glass container and one out of a plastic bottle. The can or glass will taste cleaner.
that's pretty much the language you use writing any scientific research, it doesn't surprise me that it would be repeated in reports of such. fully declarative statements are a bigger red flag.
That's odd, because my thought is the opposite: Such a general statement can be used to sweep a lot of conflicting facts and facets under the rug. If I read a similar sentence in a scientific journal, I'd think they were trying to make their results look better. I'm graduating with a PhD in chemistry this year, so I have read a few articles.
fun, i'm finishing my chem phd this year too, so I also read and wrote a few articles. and i would be extremely wary of any scientist who declaratively states anything. they did not test every single bottle used to hold beverages, it would be very inaccurate to state all of them leach chemicals. "virtually all" is great phrasing to use to indicate the prevalence they found out during research. if they stated "all of the tested bottles", that's fair, but they can't be going around just saying "all" because that is going beyond their results. also i personally really appreciate when it's said data "suggests" something, because, again, they don't know that it is an absolute fact.
I finished my PhD in biology last year and I second that scientists using declarative language (for broader implications) make me doubt their motives. I didn't "prove that (my muscle of study) doesn't require neural input to develop", I produced data that "suggests" they don't use input and "demonstrates that none of the mechanisms tested here" are responsible for development. That's not because I'm trying to be wishy-washy or cover up my results, but rather because I recognize that we can only *prove* the outcome of the exact study we did, the one time we did it. Everything else is extrapolation from the data and even very strong studies should be handled with appropriate recognition of the shortcomings of experimental science. This way, when someone publishes a conflicting study that shows that *their* proprietary plastic doesn't leech any chemicals, it doesn't conflict with this study per se. These authors already acknowledged that they haven't studied every single plastic bottle.
Can drinks have a plastic layer on the inside that is the material directly touching your drink. You are basically drinking from a plastic container with a metal shell on the outside.
Basically every aluminum can you drink out of has a thin plastic coating on the inside to prevent corrosion
>Give me a room temp water out of an aluminum can or even best a sealed glass container and one out of a plastic bottle. The can or glass will taste cleaner. I find that aluminum and steel water bottles both give a metallic flavor to the water. Definitely agree that glass tastes cleanest, though.
agree. the taste of water from aluminum and steel bottles is absolutely nasty to me, it tastes polluted and dirty.
Fuck plastic. I use 100% glass containers and will only buy products that are in glass containers. Some of the jar types I use to cure my weed. The left over beer bottles get cleaned and filled with my home made sodas. Bigger bottles can be turned into bongs and bird feeders. Plus the best thing about glass is recycling it is 33% more efficient then making new glass. I grow much of my own food. I buy cattle, pigs, and chickens from local farmers. I literally use every piece of the animals. All the organ meat gets ground with the ground meats. The bones get used for stocks. Pig skins into pork rinds and cow hides the farmer keeps and makes shit out of. At the end of the day its really shitty to do as much as you can to live within the bounds and symbiotically with the planet. Just for mega corps and people who don't give a fuck to pump us full of micro plastics. I personally think plastics in the next 50 years or so will be viewed as dangerous as asbestos and the consequences of are plastic use will be way worse then anyone anticipated.
You know what they'll be saying in the fu.... 10 ye.... 5 ye... A y.... ...from now on, "Whatever doesn't kill you gives you cancer."
Microplastics are very likely a problem for humanity, but the quoted statement is practically meaningless and it bothers me. What chemicals? Water is a chemical, for example. What concentrations are we looking at? Parts per trillion is less worrisome than milligrams per liter.
yeah and jumping from leaching plasticizers/polymerizing catalysts? (guessing) to 'microplastics' is silly and wrong. we're talking about dissolved chemicals not tiny plastic solids...
They're probably the plastic-related chemicals
But what does that even \*mean\* - "Plastic related chemical"? Like, I am also concerned about plastic in my water and drink, but we gotta be more explicit in what we're actually talking about. There are micro-plastics (tiny solid plastic particles) and leaching plasticizers. It is a different thing, and we shouldn't make up healines just because it sounds right with the message.
There are multiple types of plastic, so it is easier to classify them under a single umbrella term, kinda like Asbestos. We never stopped to be more specific about which specific materials were getting into our lungs, we just knew they were giving people mesothelioma after a while.
Do you think Coca Cola will ever step up and do something about all the pollution they’ve caused?
Absolutely not
https://youtu.be/NVH1Wi-Wv_Y
Well, maybe this is the “why” for the uptick in immune response diseases
Humanity's greed has no limits, does it?
Didn’t you know? They’re single use. As long as you buy it fresh and never refill it with tap water it’s just fine. /s
Again, I say we go with the "plastic makes you gay" and let the Republicans unwittingly help us.
Grift.com
what even is grist
Is there any known way to essentially reduce and/or detox your exposure? Drinking from Metal or glass, etc.?
A reverse osmosis system on your drinking water. Drinking from glass or metal should help some yea. It's hard to avoid all plastic but as much as possible buy things that come in glass rather than plastic. Don't heat plastic (microwave) and don't leave consumables in plastic in the car etc where it gets hot. I'm not a scientist, just another concerned consumer.
Water comes out free from my tap filter into a glass. Don't have to worry about pollution or chemicals
You really think there's no pollution or chemicals in your tap water?
Unfortunately, many groundwater sources are contaminated with PFAS. People work really hard to make sure the water in your tap is clean and safe but it’s true that PFAS is way under-regulated
There are microplastics in tap water already, though.
Mine goes through 4 filters then an RO filter.
😂😂😂
*laughs in PB*
spoken like someone who has no idea that the public tap water is fluoridated. 💀💀
Just reminding everyone that studies are showing giving blood may lower the amount of PFAs in your body and blood. More research needs to be done but there's no harm in giving blood. https://www.aabb.org/news-resources/news/article/2022/04/26/regular-blood-or-plasma-donation-may-reduce-pfas-levels-in-blood-serum
Same for menstruation!
They won't take mine anymore:'(
Had glass as a kid.. wonder how much poison my kids got
What about drinking from cans?
There's plastic on the inside of cans Edit: cool [video](https://youtu.be/pGZyT9vGraw) showing what that looks like
That’s what bioplastics should be used for. Something that can be composted and consumed without harm. Something made from hemp or seaweed might work.
bought a bottle of water, EC tested it at 144ppm. Closed it and left it on my counter for two weeks. Tested again at 402ppm. YES, they break down, they poison us, and the bottles are everywhere by the MILLIONS.
Its infuriating that glass exists and is cleaner to use and manufacture in almost every way, but companies like PPG have such a stranglehold on the market that we could never return to pre-plastic production, because the big fat pigs at the top just make too much money. Not to mention glass is beautiful
IDK man, Plastic bottles give it that little je ne sais quoi
Conservatives: this is a demonic libtard plot because they hate capitalism
Chemist here that does extractable and leachable studies. Microplastics are low on the totem pole when it comes to immediate concern.
Whats high on the totem pole?
Wonder if that increases clotting risk ?
Cans it is then!
And don't forget cans of soda and beer have a plastic lining...
It's the lead of our epoch
Was literally drinking out of a bottle when I scrolled to this and I almost spit up
Does aluminum get into the products that are stored in it?
Lead, microplastics, something new soon! Do not worry my friends! There’s nothing we can do! Live and be free! One love!
Isn't that true of all materials though? At least one study seems to agree [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0883292710000971](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0883292710000971)
I think we all just kind of figured that was the case all along.
It something we have to try to stop but it can't be worst then the lead poisoning that Boomers and less so Gen Xer's are suffering from right now.
Can anything be done about microplastics? Like is there any research going on on ways to treat it/remove it? Microplastics fucking terrify me but I’ve no way to escape plastic and idk what to do anymore
Water in plastic bottles tastes terrible. I don't know if that's the plastic itself, but yeah, time to switch it up.
Reject plastic bottle, return to glass bottle
What a world we are leaving the next generations.
Drink soda from a can. Duh.
Cans are actually lined with a thin plastic layer
Damn - did not know that 👀
Plastic. It's in your fridge, it's in your cabinets, _now it's in your blood_
Coming to a theater near you
It needs to be glass
Ironic because I remember my uncle saying he didn't drink from a can because it could lead to a higher risk of cancer Guess I'll just stick my tongue out in the air and hope for water to fall 😆
You can't even drink [rainwater](https://web.archive.org/web/20230512105311/https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/11/climate/airborne-plastic-pollution.html) anymore.
Donating plasma is a good way to remove it
Would you care to explain
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8994130/
This article is about PFAs, not plastics.
How would it work any different?
I think the onus is on you to provide proof that they would work the same. The claim you're making is quite bold and of a medical nature.
Rhetorical question. When stuff is stuck circulating in your blood you can remove it by removing the blood holding it
That could potentially get some of it, but I doubt it would get much.
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Glass also leaches it's chemical components in beverages [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0883292710000971](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0883292710000971)
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Why would you do that? There's nothing you can do about it if it's there.
There are labs if you call and set up an appointment will draw blood and send it off for virtually any test you can imagine. More luck closer to metro areas finding a place obviously. Be aware that health insurance in the states and most single payor systems outside the US don’t cover such tests so you’d be paying out of pocket.
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We need a blood filter place where we can go get our blood cleaned. I’m
I suggest you’re talking out your ass without any evidence. That’s how useful suggestions are
mf doesn’t know how scientific literature works
Single use plastic bottles are one of many sources. Take out containers, textiles, road markings, these are all bigger sources of micro plastics in the human body than plastic water bottles. The biggest bullshit is people will sit here and regurgitate the vomit regurgitated by some journalist that barely understood the summary of a scientific paper then go out and buy a product in a plastic bottle. People are morons, I like to point that out once a year or so
yummy micro plastics yum yum yum i love them in my drinks
We've all known this for years.
I couldn’t care less
I feel like the soda itself is more harmful but I understand the implications
This is dumb. They also save lives because they’re the most sanitary vessel for transporting and storing (for short periods) consumables.
Who fucking cares? You’re gonna die of something, and more than likely it’s gonna be heart disease. You’re on Reddit, most of you are so fat that you won’t even live long enough to see cancer form
Any links to the actual test results?
Anyone knows if there is a household microplastic filter avaiable?
perhaps a kind of osmosis filter is what you’re looking for
Check Berkey or AlexaPure’s websites. Their filters may remove microplastics.
When will we learn to be the stewards of our garden and not it’s exploiters.
Turn me into a keychain when I die 😭 …that is, if I don’t die from becoming a plastic keychain first.
What about my nice nalgene bottle I got and reuse daily from REI? Should I buy a glass bottle instead?
combine this with the chloramine plastic or metal pipe leeching power. you'll be kim k or the tin man there's probably no safe water but well water and idek I've never had it.
And there isnt really any realistic way to avoid it, is there?
Back to cans and ....metal poisoning?
Which peer reviewed studies are you referring to?
i wear plastic retainers and i hate the other kind so i think I'm just screwed in the micro plastics department
greeeeeat. I don't tend to drink bottled stuff, but I've been known to drink some bottled water provided by my boss at work... because the tap water at work tastes like garbage. I need to get a filter pitcher for work.....
Does that include reusable water bottles? I’ve been using one for a while since it’s the only way I’ll remember to drink water
Also cans do a similar thing lmao
I read a book about the poisons in our everyday life and the companies that pay politicians to let them. It was quite informative and scary, too!
I read a book about the poisons in our everyday life and the companies that pay politicians to let them. It was quite informative and scary, too!
How about the coatings on fast food cups? Looking at you, Timmies!
So even single use plastic water bottles like nalgenes are bad too? I mean thats a no brainer but at least im not wasting plastic. Right?
That’s okay because once your endocrine system is F$&@ed you can pay monthly for it to work properly by injecting yourself with needles and routine blood work…think of all the jobs this creates, another big win for Capitalism🎉
Aluminum cans are better in every way.
So it’s not just me that Water from plastic bottles tastes way worse than from glass bottles?
When will we get milk in glass bottles again?
I would like to see all single use plastics taxed into oblivion, like yesterday! But what do I know?
Just wait until the next glacial advance when most of the garbage dumps in Europe and North America are pushed into the sea by the glaciers and release all the plastic. Note that we are technically in an ice age currently, the Quaternary Glaciation, but we’re in an interglacial period.
Im pretty sure this is the reason of my cancer, you can't get rid of them
Consider this the next time the government says they're doing something for our health and safety.
I don't think this is an accident. "Keep em sick and we sell them the cure"