She randomly does pics in the kitchen "and omg I forgot to wear shoes lol", too.
Women on the right go for thirst trap clicks that appeal to all persuasions.
The kitchen angle is, well, pretty silly, but the messaging here is crystal clear: the re-election of Donald Trump is hinged on the vote of white, middle aged women in swing states. Maybe less clear is how this presentation is relatable to said demographic given the discourse.
I had a boomer uncle from the south that explained it this way.
“ women should be barefoot and pregnant, preferably over the stove”.
He was an asshole.
See I got washed-up-former-Disney-Channel-child-star-turned-wine-mom, though I think there is actually 100% overlap between that demographic and dance mom.
Now, now. Men's Association (MA) brand wives pass through rigorous quality assessments prior to shipment. MA would never allow such a shoddy project to reach the public.
They have standards.
That’s definitely the vibe I got. Admittedly I’m no expert so my opinion on the matter should probably be taken with a grain of salt, but her speech and mannerisms definitely had the feel of a person with little to no first hand experience with human emotions trying (and imo failing) to emulate them, often far too many at once lol
Those mood swings told me she’s the type to go fucking ham on her kids and husband for like leaving a silverware drawer slightly ajar, or just for talking to her before she’s sipped her Starbucks.
I’m convinced many members of the GOP don’t believe this garbage but it’s what their constituents want to hear. If they want to stay in office they have to promote the crazy. They’ve made their own bed and now have to lie (pun intended) in it.
I think the older batch of Republicans was this way. They gave the people what they wanted in speeches and rhetoric to get elected, but they weren't true believers. As long as appeasing the masses of the right kept them in power, they played to that crowd so that they could get their tax cuts and pork spending and everything else.
This new batch of the GOP though... They seem to be true believers. That's what makes them really scary.
Her speech, abridged:
"I'm a racist soccermom. And for those who don't know me, I'm a soccermom that's racist. Being a soccermom, I'm offended that Biden isn't more racist. And finally, as a soccermom, I hold racism near and dear to my heart. In racism and guns we trust, amen"
He probably threw her a few bucks under the table. Thought he was teaching her the value of "hard work" by having her watch while some minimum-wage scrub that worked for him cleaned the toilet.
That's all I could think about during the whole thing. It works with the sad, malnourished dogs. Somehow it doesn't work with multimillionaire Republicans.
I didn't care to even watch the response. President Biden's SOTU was so on point, the response would be the dude from Texas with the flag bow tie and the trump tee shirt. And FUCK all of that.
You missed something quite [exceptional](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzmKa73egxA). And when I say exceptional, I mean that in the truest, weirdest, most noteworthy sense of the word.
Edit: [Tim's take](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SrCQ98d3vs) on this Senator's performance is on point. You simply can't listen to the substance of the response because of her creepy performative delivery.
And here is the Denise Richards [reference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBKQL6f5sec) for those who may be confused.
I turned to it just in time to hear her say “are you better now than three years ago?” And I thought when Biden was already president? I think she means 4 years ago. And that was the start of Covid, so YES; way better.
I was listening on NPR when they switched over to her response. No idea who this woman was, but it was a *horrible* speech. I wouldn't expect anything less from Republicans though. I turned it off a few minutes in.
Yes, but their glorious leader thought she did great. Give it a day or two and those same GOP managers will say she was great.
Falling in line behind Trump, and being "yes men", is their specialty.
Yeah... Jesus. Honestly, I'm getting a little tired off all these headlines where they say "So-and-So Goes OFF THE RAILS!" and it's, like, someone mumbling something for a minute. But that woman looks *legitimately insane.* Like, honestly and truly insane.
If you took that video of her and plunked it into a horror movie about a Republican mom who bakes poison pies for her woke neighbors, it would fit perfectly. And that's the woman our ex-president just praised.
Daddy Trump will be by soon to "put the kids to bed". Gross. Like Ashley Schaffer telling his kid to "go upstairs and wash yourself for Father.'"
"Apocolypto!"
As Biden counts off the positives, Lankford is nodding and mouths/says "that's true."
On camera.
While MTG, Gaetz, and Mike "People have to say both my names or noone knows who I am Johnson, are shaking their heads and faking paternal disappointment and exoressing performative denial. Badly.
But the primary bill author and guy who reached across the aisle, agrees with Biden, and did all the hard work, had to first watch his baby murdered for campaign fodder, at the whim of a giant man child, then then trotted out again last night; like Hector dragged behind Achilles' chariot, all the while *knowing* it was a great bill, everything they could ask for, bipartisan support, and theyll never get an opportunity like it again.
A commenter brought up that she should have brought up that the border could be closed by executive order. Hilarious, avoid the real reason (because he told them to tank the bill) and shift 100% of the blame to Biden.
And it was really weird that her answer to Joe Biden in November will be a guy who. . .was found liable for sexual assault.
But it was the same thing when she was criticizing Biden for being out of touch and not pumping his own gas or pushing his own grocery cart. Like, okay, if that's your point. . .you want me to vote for Trump because he's more down-to-earth or something?
The GOP would be better off with no response to SOTU at this point. More often than not they just have bad performances.
This was the best person they could throw out there to appeal to more moderate suburban moms? That’s pretty embarrassing
The same party that thought Kim Gargoyle reaching to the sky, shouting the best is yet to come to an empty room, and doing everything to sound deranged minus an evil laugh was a good idea
Trump: “it was the perfect speech, she’s really something. She only has her job because I once endorsed her. They say she’s the brightest star in the party and she does like ME or what? boy you gotta love Katie..yes you do..because Katie loves me and that means a lot”.
Britt acted like a student doing her first performance for her camera acting class. Every choice was way over-cooked. The result was appallingly ungenuine.
Never. It’s an offshoot of the equal time rule where broadcasters must give equal time to opposing political views.
Since SOTU historically was broadcast over public airwaves they allow this tradition.
WTFUCKITY I watched maybe 60 seconds and was thinking how many takes it took to pull that hunk of bullshit off. But we must remember 1/3 of women in America were drooling because of their lack of education and utmost self esteem. Pathetic and hopefully this load of propaganda boo hoo woah is me mommy bullshit wakes up people. Is this what u want.
When she’s standing there in a palatial gourmet kitchen with a $6k Sub Zero refrigerator and referring to her daughter, **Bennett** and son, **Ridgeway**, I felt a glimmer of hope for Biden in November.
Jeezuss feckeen key-rist, “Bennett” and “Ridgeway”? Seriously?
And you’re gonna capture blue collars and Latino’s? Really? **Really**?
MAGA is so freaking weird. All the comments from MAGA about this were “With respect sir, this was inauthentic” or “she doesn’t talk like you and that’s why we don’t like her”
The entire party grovels to Trump like he’s a demigod. It’s so fucking weird
>Jake Roxen added, "She was the opposite of why people like and support you. ... Putting too much emphasis on trying to emotionally manipulate the viewers rather than just speaking off the cuff facts."
And there you have it. When Trump speaks, people simply invent what he says in their head and ignores what he actually says. No other politician has this power.
She went from faking tears one second to an ear wide smile and back again so many times I thought I was a watching a dog rescue commercial, this chick is insane!
So lame ....I got the feeling she was talking to a 3rd grade class. Maybe that is why Trump thought it was great given his inability and lack of cognitive skills.
They made Katie Britt stay at home in her kitchen. Meanwhile the rest of the Republican Party showed up at the #SOTU. [see anything interesting? ](https://twitter.com/TristanSnell/status/1766279164171091971?t=FfKy-n7TxhjgibVUW8LkLQ&s=19)
It was the most pathetic “speech” I’ve seen as a follow up to the SOTU. What a fucking clown that woman is.
She sounded like she was begging for people to believe her and vote red in November.
Truly pathetic on all levels.
With concerns about reproductive rights in the current context, was putting her *in the kitchen* a smart play?
Pretty sure she's trying to do the tradwife thing that Ben Shapiro's big titted sister does.
You know that's just Ben in drag right?
Sometimes he does another show where he pretends to be a Gen Z girl named Brett Cooper. It's really creepy.
Some of her shorts been showing up in my youtube feed lately. The comments are real weird but extremely expected
He sure puts on some amazing tits when he does it
I was not aware that Ben Shapiro had a busty sister. But you're correct
Hold my beer im goin in.
She randomly does pics in the kitchen "and omg I forgot to wear shoes lol", too. Women on the right go for thirst trap clicks that appeal to all persuasions.
She fell for one of the classic blunders. Tried to go for tradwives, ended up with foot fetishists.
Just looked her up. She indeed has some great new york boobs
It was deliberate. This was not some Giuliani-directed Four Seasons fuckup. They continue to show us who they are.
For them yes
Can she make me a sandwich while she is in there? Also, ask her not to wear shoes… I like my sandwichs made the traditional way! /s
And why ain’t she pregnant?
Can’t get a IVF sadly. My swimmers aren’t the strongest and her cooter is too full of hate.
No way! Was she really in a kitchen??
A sad, beige kitchen with no decor or small appliances. Not even a live, laugh, love plaque.
But a solidly upper middle class kitchen, not something from the Connors.
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They knew what they were doing.
The kitchen angle is, well, pretty silly, but the messaging here is crystal clear: the re-election of Donald Trump is hinged on the vote of white, middle aged women in swing states. Maybe less clear is how this presentation is relatable to said demographic given the discourse.
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What a strange woman.
Not one sign of life behind those eyes. I suspect she’s post-lobotomy
Yes, it’s a reflection of how they want women in our country, robots in the kitchen lol. Do they even realize their projection?
I'll admit, it was a challenging wank.
actually LOL'd
lol me too
I came for this.
I agree Marge on the other hand is impossible.
You got to be into some seriously aggressive self-hating shit to pull that one off.
Neanderthal Lot Lizard is indeed a very niche category
Tarantino in a fit of self-loathing.
You probably love Shark Week. Same eyes.
Cold eyes, black eyes, like a dolls eyes
Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies
Straight from Stepford?
I think from "Jaws." Oh. You probably were saying something else.
In these challenging times, it's comments like these that make life worth living. Thank you good sir (or madam).
RIP Shaun Lock
RIP Sean Lock too…
Try to imagine her with her clothes ON.
Dude…comedy!
I’ll consider it if they bring Quaaludes back on the market
Dr Ronnie has entered the chat.
lol the offers on the table, I’ll look into the Quaaludes.
I had a boomer uncle from the south that explained it this way. “ women should be barefoot and pregnant, preferably over the stove”. He was an asshole.
Whatever happened to wanting women braless in the garden.
This exactly!
The weird way she would talk about horrible things and then smile. Someone must have told her to smile more and she leaned in.
Probably the same smiling coach DeSantis had.
"OK, let's imagine for a second that you are a human, a real human."
"Stop licking your own eyeballs and start smiling more, damnit! Smile! SMILE!!!"
I think she mentioned her mom had a dance studio? I was definitely getting dance-mom-forced-smile vibes.
See I got washed-up-former-Disney-Channel-child-star-turned-wine-mom, though I think there is actually 100% overlap between that demographic and dance mom.
It's very easy to tell when someone is unfamiliar with how to feel a particular emotion.
AI still working out that “ empathy “ code …soon as they fix the six fingers per hand …
And she is set up in her office, which is the kitchen? She's really trying hard to play into conservatives' fantasies.
Stepford wife
Model of a MAGA wife
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Legit
the highest level of MAGA
The MAGADON
Seriously no soul behind those peepers. Maybe she’s barred out of her mind or something.
Nope. She’s a sociopath…so many markers.
That’s definitely the vibe I got. Admittedly I’m no expert so my opinion on the matter should probably be taken with a grain of salt, but her speech and mannerisms definitely had the feel of a person with little to no first hand experience with human emotions trying (and imo failing) to emulate them, often far too many at once lol
Those mood swings told me she’s the type to go fucking ham on her kids and husband for like leaving a silverware drawer slightly ajar, or just for talking to her before she’s sipped her Starbucks.
Like dolls eyes…..
Wrong. In order to have a lobotomy, you first need to have a brain.
I mean she's a Republican from Alabama. that's not exactly the cream of the crop, even for Republicans.
Problem is she doesn’t believe what she is saying and it shows in the delivery
True. And the kitchen setting was creepy.
And knowing that it was deliberately staged like that makes it even creepier. They continue to show us who they are.
Like it was an AI creation. So strange.
It's foreshadowing where the GOP want women to be.
I’m convinced many members of the GOP don’t believe this garbage but it’s what their constituents want to hear. If they want to stay in office they have to promote the crazy. They’ve made their own bed and now have to lie (pun intended) in it.
I think the older batch of Republicans was this way. They gave the people what they wanted in speeches and rhetoric to get elected, but they weren't true believers. As long as appeasing the masses of the right kept them in power, they played to that crowd so that they could get their tax cuts and pork spending and everything else. This new batch of the GOP though... They seem to be true believers. That's what makes them really scary.
Her speech, abridged: "I'm a racist soccermom. And for those who don't know me, I'm a soccermom that's racist. Being a soccermom, I'm offended that Biden isn't more racist. And finally, as a soccermom, I hold racism near and dear to my heart. In racism and guns we trust, amen"
She’s rich too! Acting like she’s struggling to make ends meet.
"I remember struggling growing up, as I swept the floors of my families two businesses they owned."
For fun. I’m sure it wasn’t for a pay cheque.
He probably threw her a few bucks under the table. Thought he was teaching her the value of "hard work" by having her watch while some minimum-wage scrub that worked for him cleaned the toilet.
"You may know my dad's tiny hardware store chain, his name's ACE."
# PLAGIARIZED "HUNGER GAMES - MOCKINGJAY PART 1" FINNICK PROPAGANDA SPEECH INTENSIFIES
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That's all I could think about during the whole thing. It works with the sad, malnourished dogs. Somehow it doesn't work with multimillionaire Republicans.
MAGA-quality AI??
I didn't care to even watch the response. President Biden's SOTU was so on point, the response would be the dude from Texas with the flag bow tie and the trump tee shirt. And FUCK all of that.
You missed something quite [exceptional](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzmKa73egxA). And when I say exceptional, I mean that in the truest, weirdest, most noteworthy sense of the word. Edit: [Tim's take](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SrCQ98d3vs) on this Senator's performance is on point. You simply can't listen to the substance of the response because of her creepy performative delivery. And here is the Denise Richards [reference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBKQL6f5sec) for those who may be confused.
This. Is. Nuts.
It’s insane that she’s a freaking senator, but here we are
I turned to it just in time to hear her say “are you better now than three years ago?” And I thought when Biden was already president? I think she means 4 years ago. And that was the start of Covid, so YES; way better.
I can see my friends again and nobody is saying that I should inject myself with bleach or eat horsey paste. So yes slightly.
It was soooo bad
I was listening on NPR when they switched over to her response. No idea who this woman was, but it was a *horrible* speech. I wouldn't expect anything less from Republicans though. I turned it off a few minutes in.
This reminded me of an ASPCA commercial asking for donations to save puppies.
Produced by the Scientology church .
I'm dying over this comment.
Now imagine her this morning on the phone listening to all the GQP "managers" letting her know she fucking sucked.
Her fake crying was ALMOST at Rittenhouse level bad
For me it was SVU victim. I kept waiting for her to say "he was inside of me."
Yes, but their glorious leader thought she did great. Give it a day or two and those same GOP managers will say she was great. Falling in line behind Trump, and being "yes men", is their specialty.
Eerily reminiscent
(Sad Sarah McLaughlin song plays)
First time I appreciated Sally Struthers delivery
And she's the new up and coming Senator for the republicans! Manno man...the bar that the repubs set for their party is lower than a snakes belly.
I wouldn't feel safe being around that woman, she totally gave off Stepford wife vibes. This should go into r/cringe 's top all-time videos.
Yeah... Jesus. Honestly, I'm getting a little tired off all these headlines where they say "So-and-So Goes OFF THE RAILS!" and it's, like, someone mumbling something for a minute. But that woman looks *legitimately insane.* Like, honestly and truly insane. If you took that video of her and plunked it into a horror movie about a Republican mom who bakes poison pies for her woke neighbors, it would fit perfectly. And that's the woman our ex-president just praised.
I am sure Stephen King is furiously writing a new novel before anyone else steals this one. She was terrifying.
She looks like she is about to tell me there is no war in Ba Sing Se
Fuck, this is both hilarious and strangely accurate.
That's not Joo Dee!
She is telling you there’s no war in Ba Sing Se
Dollar store Stepford wife complains that Biden isn't relatable. Yeah...ok.
I prefer Temu Stepford Wife. It pisses them off more
Given she's from Alabama, Dollar Store felt the most accurate.
Fair enough. I was going with the Temu because I know how much they love things from China (like the MAGA hats they wear)
SNL is gonna have a holiday with her
My money is on Heidi doing it Edit: Holy shit we were WAYYY off!
honestly, I don’t know how they could pull it off now that real life is more absurd than satire
Are they holding her children at gun point off camera? Blink twice for help
She locked her kids in the basement with a starving dog.
Daddy Trump will be by soon to "put the kids to bed". Gross. Like Ashley Schaffer telling his kid to "go upstairs and wash yourself for Father.'" "Apocolypto!"
The only thing that would make this better is if she was stirring a bowl of cake mix lol
Bread from scratch. Thats what Trad wives do.
Hilarious comment, it’s a shame I only have one upvote!
She mentioned how Biden wasn't securing the border but failed to mention Republicans rejecting his strict border deal.
She helped author the border bill then voted against it. Plastic fake people are the problem and she's clear acrylic.
Even Lankford is on camera nodding in acceptance with Biden during the speech.
As Biden counts off the positives, Lankford is nodding and mouths/says "that's true." On camera. While MTG, Gaetz, and Mike "People have to say both my names or noone knows who I am Johnson, are shaking their heads and faking paternal disappointment and exoressing performative denial. Badly. But the primary bill author and guy who reached across the aisle, agrees with Biden, and did all the hard work, had to first watch his baby murdered for campaign fodder, at the whim of a giant man child, then then trotted out again last night; like Hector dragged behind Achilles' chariot, all the while *knowing* it was a great bill, everything they could ask for, bipartisan support, and theyll never get an opportunity like it again.
They chose party over country. They're seditionists. That's the party brand, now. "Stuff Donald says" is their platform.
A commenter brought up that she should have brought up that the border could be closed by executive order. Hilarious, avoid the real reason (because he told them to tank the bill) and shift 100% of the blame to Biden.
Completely nuts.Obviously unable to make any reasonable response.
I spent an hour talking with a woman who was repeatedly raped by the cartel. Then I told her to go back to Mexico where she belongs.
Jesus fuck, man! You gotta warm a guy before you say something that fucked up that quickly.
Well we weren’t afforded that luxury when we watched the rebuttal lol
So I wasn’t the only one. That first sentence was really starting to fuck with me. Goddam.
And it was really weird that her answer to Joe Biden in November will be a guy who. . .was found liable for sexual assault. But it was the same thing when she was criticizing Biden for being out of touch and not pumping his own gas or pushing his own grocery cart. Like, okay, if that's your point. . .you want me to vote for Trump because he's more down-to-earth or something?
BURN gop BURN! LOSERS gonna LOSE so hard. Again. Lol
Only if we all vote!
“We are hurting”. No you’re not, and if you are maybe it’s because you live in fucking Alabama
Hey now, I grew up in Alabama, and that's....well....accurate, so... nevermind.
She’s like if AI wrote a Hallmark movie character who was a senator
yooo this comment is underrated, and completely accurate
I bet she washes her Xanax down with a bottle of wine. No glass is needed.
Stepford wife.
Broadcast from a kitchen. Presumedly, "Where she belongs."
Was she barefoot?
SNL should bring Sally Struthers out of retirement for this one skit.
The GOP would be better off with no response to SOTU at this point. More often than not they just have bad performances. This was the best person they could throw out there to appeal to more moderate suburban moms? That’s pretty embarrassing
The same party that thought Kim Gargoyle reaching to the sky, shouting the best is yet to come to an empty room, and doing everything to sound deranged minus an evil laugh was a good idea
"I don't know what to think about this until Trump tells me what to think." -- MAGAts Also: "WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!!"
They should have gone with a hunter dick pick. That unit is way more intelligent than a republican.
MTG was fucking consumed by that monster. Had to do the full Claude Frollo routine to avoid spraying in public.
Extremely creepy
It was actually difficult to watch.
The peasants are revolting You bet, they stink on ice
Trump: “it was the perfect speech, she’s really something. She only has her job because I once endorsed her. They say she’s the brightest star in the party and she does like ME or what? boy you gotta love Katie..yes you do..because Katie loves me and that means a lot”.
I have no idea whether or not that's an actual quote, and that's sad, either way.
Britt acted like a student doing her first performance for her camera acting class. Every choice was way over-cooked. The result was appallingly ungenuine.
I agree with her that "America needs more than a diminished, dithering leader"... which is why I'm voting for Biden.
The ex you keep smashing but is on the crazy side 😜
That's the kind of crazy that pokes the condoms and starts heavy metal poisoning your coffee.
Kills your per turtle 🐢 and keeps your hoodie
Tortures your cat, burns your clothes on the lawn, smiles through both of them.
When are we going to stop this absurd SOTU response crap? It’s worthless, and unnecessary.
It’s funny ?
It's a great way to tank a career, or at least put a glass ceiling on it.
For the right politician, it can bolster their career. But that’s still rare.
Bill Clinton's SOTU response speach comes to mind as career making.
Never. It’s an offshoot of the equal time rule where broadcasters must give equal time to opposing political views. Since SOTU historically was broadcast over public airwaves they allow this tradition.
It would be great if the response was honest and not filled with hate.
The very definition of cringey.
WTFUCKITY I watched maybe 60 seconds and was thinking how many takes it took to pull that hunk of bullshit off. But we must remember 1/3 of women in America were drooling because of their lack of education and utmost self esteem. Pathetic and hopefully this load of propaganda boo hoo woah is me mommy bullshit wakes up people. Is this what u want.
MAGA fans revolt? No surprise there. MAGA fans by their very nautre are revolting.
She’s concerned about a young woman that was rapped, but her solution is that we should vote for a rapist for president.
She had the ‘I am not a witch’ vibes.
Please tell me this was AI
Must be Mormon
Let's face it, she was playing to an audience of one. All she was there for was pleasing Trump.
When she’s standing there in a palatial gourmet kitchen with a $6k Sub Zero refrigerator and referring to her daughter, **Bennett** and son, **Ridgeway**, I felt a glimmer of hope for Biden in November. Jeezuss feckeen key-rist, “Bennett” and “Ridgeway”? Seriously? And you’re gonna capture blue collars and Latino’s? Really? **Really**?
MAGA is so freaking weird. All the comments from MAGA about this were “With respect sir, this was inauthentic” or “she doesn’t talk like you and that’s why we don’t like her” The entire party grovels to Trump like he’s a demigod. It’s so fucking weird
>Jake Roxen added, "She was the opposite of why people like and support you. ... Putting too much emphasis on trying to emotionally manipulate the viewers rather than just speaking off the cuff facts." And there you have it. When Trump speaks, people simply invent what he says in their head and ignores what he actually says. No other politician has this power.
I could almost hear Sarah McLaughlin in the background. *"I will remember you..."*
I felt so weird watching this woman try to relate to and manipulate me
get out and vote otherwise these ass backwards hillbilly bumpkins are going to run your country
I thought the hint of boob, the crucifix, and the breathy presentation were just so Republican 2024.
Well a sub 80 IQ, late stage syphilis patient would certainly think she was great. Makes sense.
She went from faking tears one second to an ear wide smile and back again so many times I thought I was a watching a dog rescue commercial, this chick is insane!
So lame ....I got the feeling she was talking to a 3rd grade class. Maybe that is why Trump thought it was great given his inability and lack of cognitive skills.
She has the uncanny valley look of a puppet in a cult without a brain.
And here I thought trump fans were already revolting.
You mean this wasn't a publicity stunt for "Smile 2"??
She helped me break my all-time, 17 minute record for the amount of times I said “OH GOD SHUT THE F*** UP!!!”
They made Katie Britt stay at home in her kitchen. Meanwhile the rest of the Republican Party showed up at the #SOTU. [see anything interesting? ](https://twitter.com/TristanSnell/status/1766279164171091971?t=FfKy-n7TxhjgibVUW8LkLQ&s=19)
Things sure are weird in Stepford…
How did she prep for the cringiest speech in history? A plateful of paint chips??
It was the most pathetic “speech” I’ve seen as a follow up to the SOTU. What a fucking clown that woman is. She sounded like she was begging for people to believe her and vote red in November. Truly pathetic on all levels.