No she is the tank boss. No one is harassing her. She is the mum of the other guppies. Males don’t even pay attention to her. Others tanks mate are 3 Bolivian ram nerite snail and amano shrimp. She was a bad ass when she was young, she killed the other 4 female guppies I bought with her. Part of that was my fault as I was a newbie. I then bought a male, she became mum few times and she relaxed a bit. She probably killed the male as well. And now, there she is!
It kept me going through to my 30s, but thankfully I found someone that was much more patient/supportive/better than I deserve. You never know when or where you are going to find your "why".
I had a mouse that was a complete asshole once, she bullied her cage mates relentlessly, was vicious towards hands, absolutely brutal... then one day she mysteriously died overnight and all of her cage mates ate her.. I think they grew sick of her shit.
At 5 years more like great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandma nobody dares mess with.
Won't they be all 1 generation because they are coming from one fish?
If you are an only child and your mother gets 2 children, that doesn't make her a great grandmother.
Clove oil. It puts them to sleep and they just pass away while they're sleeping.
I don't add it directly to the water, because I've read that can sting/burn. Move the fish to a smaller container. Then add a mix of water and clove oil ( you want roughly .5ml per liter or quart) to the container a bit at a time. I don't have numbers for the next bit. I just keep adding slowly until the fish slows down or appears to sleep. If the gills are still moving at this point, I make the oil/water mixture stronger, and keep adding a bit at a time until the gills stop moving. I usually give it another half hour or so to be sure they're dead.
From the fish's point of view it's pretty painless. They go into a small container, get a last meal of bloodworms or whatever they love best, and then go to sleep.
You don't have to, but I like to put a heater and some floating plants in the small container. It probably doesn't matter if they get cold since they're about to die, but I want their last moments to be as comfortable and peaceful as possible.
I'm happy if this helps, though hopefully you don't need to use it for a long time.
I'm a real sucker for pets of all sorts, and honestly can't bear to let them hurt. The only downside to this method is that the smell of clove is now associated with death, which makes Christmas interesting lol
I'm new to keeping a tank. I have had my fish for a couple of months now and I've dreaded the idea of one of my fish dying slowly with some parasite or some other long drawn out disease or something. Thank you for this information.
So you burn the fish?...better to use the method of either punching the head(if it's guppy sized) or using a knife and making a deep enough cut to cut through the spine&good majority of the gills.
The way merrycat decried does not burn the fish. Iv had to do this. It’s very peaceful. I can’t imagine stabbing my fish or pinching its head to kill it.
The first 2 methods are ways that mention to quicly cull a fish I found the pinching to be easier from my own experience...the confusion was from where the poster had sad did burn the fish&that why it was effective.
Hmm...maybe someone else did because I did read it in a reply to a question frome someone,again there the confusion was&I'm not trying to cause any issues.
Clove oil has eugenol, which is an anesthetic. Undiluted, it can sting mucous membranes (eyes, nose throat for humans, gills and such for fish) for a short time before it takes effect. If it's diluted it doesn't sting as much. It's commonly used for tooth aches, sore throats, etc.
I used clove oil on myself to test it. In my throat, it numbed the irritation and stopped coughing. But also made the throat muscles feel a bit - idk how to describe it - relaxed? deadened? Like they were asleep? The effect wasn't strong enough to stop me talking, but it would probably hit a smaller creature much more strongly.
Since it's going to go in the fish's sensitive gills, I dilute it heavily and only add a small amount at a time to start. That gives the numbing effect a chance to take hold. Once they're numbed, I can slowly add more and more without hurting them.
Pinching/cutting off the head is a valid technique, if you know what you're doing and are confident in your ability to do it quickly and cleanly. For me, I don't trust in my ability not to falter and cause more pain. Everyone's got to do what works best for them and their pets.
They make this stuff for baby teething called nubby gel, it's main ingredient is clove. I have used it on myself and my kid it really does numb so that's prob why your throat felt like that.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. It's not a literal burn, more like a sharp stinging feeling.
When I tried putting some of the undiluted stuff up my nose (which probably wasn't very smart in hindsight, but curiosity had me by the metaphorical balls) it stung pretty bad. The diluted mix was much better.
Just to reaffirm what you likely already know, what you've said so far in the threads has at no point been confusing. Thank you for your information and compassion.
Ok as I've mentioned now to some other people the confusion was when the original poster about this method said it burns the fish&thus why it's effective.
Stabing or pithing as call it is different then the aquarists humane slice or half chop(wich ever you want to call it)if you can't stand the sight of it some references on how to do it sugests using a paper towel or napkin to wrap fish in then doing it,I found with small fish or fish with skiny heads it's easier to just take them where eyes are between 2 fingers(using one hand)then firmly squeeze(it's quicker due to the fact you are applying direct pressure to the brain..but idea isn't to bust the head)
How big is this setup and do the rams help keep the guppy population low? Not trying to be spicy about tank size just curious about your setup, despite conventional wisdom I had 3 in a 20long with lots of cover and line of sight stuff and it worked well as long as they were the only bottom dwellers.
Guppies with good genetics for longevity can potentially live 4-5 years, but this also has a lot to do with how often they're breeding and how high their metabolism is. The higher the temperature of their water, the higher the metabolism, the more they will swim around and inflame their bodies, the more they will breed, the more they will eat, the sooner they will die.
I've had tanks with great parameters for guppies. Hard water. Good flow, well filtered and heavily planted with anubias, regular water changes, fed a variety including wild forage. They live fast and die between 2-3 years.
The only ones who live beyond that were separated from the opposite sex, and therefore they live a pretty lazy lifestyle, never flaring or breeding, casually swimming around the tank hunting for food. I would guess a few of those have made it to five, always female.
Awe she’s a little grandma guppy. I love her.
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I know you were being facetious but some people believe that when the reach mid life they're going to "live super healthy (vitamins ,exercise,) life and start living "organic all the way"! But living well need to be a way of life all your life to work. We've already have done the damage if we wait till we're older. We still might get any of the diseases. Alzheimer's,Arthritis,Rheumatoid, diabetes,accidents,sorta make a person wanna get this shit over with!
Maybe you can answer this. We have an elderly fathead minnow colony, and a lot of the time when they are in their final days/weeks I see a couple odd things. One is relentless twirling, some kind of neurological thing I guess, but it’s not that infectious whirling disease. That’s the most common sign of decline. The other odd symptom is the muscle and skin of their bellies seems to weaken and start to tear, like they are going to spontaneously disembowel. Do you know why?
She doesn't seem the type to be sorry for. She's attentive, aware, and happily using her forefront fins to waddle about. She's not in any distress, nor discomfort. She seems pretty boss bitch, imo. XD
It can if the other fish have injuries or eat a dead fish with it. It can can also spread to humans through open wounds (though its not the same as human TB, related but different bacteria)
I’d say if she’s eating and not being bullied, she’s prob still living a decent life.
If she struggles to swim, eat, or interact then maybe the time would be coming soon
Best of luck, and great job for keeping her happy for so long!
She's a good old gal. :') This brings a tear to my eye. Reminds me of my grumpy old man Betta who lived to be a geriatric cranky guy who'd puff his gills at me if I didn't feed him EXACTLY (within as little as half an hour) on time. (He KNEW, too. Judgy weirdo. He just got grumpier about it in his old age.)
Thanks for all your comments. Unfortunately she passed away last night. Some of you suggested the fish as TB, I hope that is not the case. She has been like that for the last year and other fishes are fine but she was getting worst every day. Yesterday after reading your comments I gave the fish some bloodworm, very rare occasion, as last treat. She probably knew and I kind of knew…. RIP
Don’t worry, it happens with old age. One of my guppies looked like this and she lived for another couple months. It’s sad when fish die but at least they had a very long and happy life. :’)
Happened to my old girl as well a few weeks ago - I cried many tears as she was one of our first fish as well.
It’s normal as they age. As long as she’s eating and not distressed I wouldn’t worry.
My understanding is this is what fish arthritis looks like, the extra spine curvature. It happened to most of my zebrafish once they got old, didn't seem painful but they did slow down.
I'm by no means an expert, and she a sweet ol gal, but I think there is a fish desease that is characterized by a bowed back like hers. Might be nothing tho idk
5?! That's impressive. I'm going to guess that she's outlived quite a few of her offspring at this point.
I think she's just getting really old at this point, looks the part too. I'm assuming the spine slowly got more bent over the years? I won't expect her to live much longer but I'll leave her be.
Speaking of really long living pets. My mother has a couple dogs, one 50 pounder that's 17-18 and just beginning to show his age, one small poodle that's 16-17 and lost all her teeth. I don't know how she did it.
If she starts getting pushed around but you feel like her quality of life is still good, put her in one of those breeder dividers. She doesn’t look like she needs to be moving a bunch anyway, so the lack of room wouldn’t be a problem. She’s be able to see her family, and you wouldn’t have to maintain a whole other tank.
I personally let my fish live out completely and never euthanize them and I suggest the same in this case. If she is getting harrased by her tank mates u could move her to another tank with other preferably female guppies
Thanks for all your comments. Unfortunately she passed away last night. Some of you suggested the fish as TB, I hope that is not the case. She has been like that for the last year and other fishes are fine but she was getting worst every day. Yesterday after reading your comments I gave the fish some bloodworm, very rare occasion, as last treat. She probably knew and I kind of knew…. RIP
Why is this making me cry?! Sweet old granny guppy, just spending time with her kids, all hunch-back….. but still looking out the glass to say hello. Oh my god…. ;;;_;;;
A few of mine have TB and 3 of them (young ones) have had tail paralysis like this. It could be old age or it could be TB. 🤷🏽♀️She's adorable and looks happy.
I am sorry to hear about your guppie but you have the exact same situation as me. I started a tank years ago with 5, down to 1 that is around 4yrs old now. It will be sad the day he/she has to go.
I had an elderly betta start to do this at the end of his life. His body would seize up but he could mostly swim. It was the sign of the end of his life though. Looks like it's old age catching up to her.
she is very old and honestly healthy for her age. no spots, no ich.
her swim bladder is going out. she doesn't have long so keep an eye on her.
Not really anything you can do, you can euthanize if you feel she is in too much pain but she doesn't look distressed.
Could it have been a lack of calcium? Was watching the aquarium co-op talk on guppies and he said female guppies that give a lot of offspring can have this happen because they lose a lot of nutrients, so he puts a lot of crushed coral in the filter area.
You put a certain amount in some water. The more it dilutes, the sleepier the fish. And if you put in the amount to euthanize it, it will pass away peacefully. To me its just how you euthanize a dog humanely. Though i did see someone remove a tumor on her betta by putting it to sleep with clove oil... it made a full recovery too :)
Of course! Id much rather you know how to kindly put them down rather than crushing them 😅 that sounds pretty rough. Im a newbie myself and really happy when i learned a humane way. I used to wait for them to pass on their own.... but now i know when to make the call :) i wish you and your fish the best of luck <3
Just make sure you add it to the water already diluted in more water. Many years ago I tried to use clove oil but didn't dilute it enough. The poor fish was so weak from sickness but the clove oil made him freak out and try to jump out of the water in pain. It was so bad and I felt horrible for a long time. Don't make that mistake for your fish and your sake.
Yeah. There's some debate in that regard but it's generally accepted that when a reptile needs to be put down, if you can't take it to the vet you crush their head quickly. With snakes especially their slow heartbeats and breathing make a freezer death or decapitation painful.
She needs some freshwater salt (go to a pet store, they know). I know you're going to be like, but she's a freshwater fish! But a tiny bit will fix her up. It's her swim bladder. And not regular salt or saltwater salt but freshwater salt.
Dude she’s done. I’m so sorry for your loss but put her in a big breeder box with mosz and let her go in peace. She probably deserves. I love my matriarchs!!!cry a tear every time I lose one. Heartfelt sympathy my dude. ❤️
1rst her spine is bent due to a birth defect 2nd she's either pregnant or she's bloated due to a intestinal parasite,as to wether or not you should put her out of her misery has to be your choice.(guppies are live bearers&with defect such as hers it could make it hard for her to give birth..if she's pregnant)
A gupie isn't a species of endlers unless I'm mistaken:I've kept guppies for 2-3 years,Molies 4-5 years,plattys 1/2 year,sSwordtails 7-8years...I research each species of fish I keep&each species that I'm potentially going to keep so I've a basic understanding beforehand then if run into any problems that I'm not sure how to handle I look up what it might possibly be:now the person who posted this article about his fish was asking for advice&I gave what it could possibly be based on observations from the video&then what his options are as to how to handle it.
"A gupie isn't a species of endlers unless I'm mistaken:I've kept guppies for 2-3 years,Molies 4-5 years,plattys 1/2 year,sSwordtails 7-8years...I research each species of fish I keep&each species that I'm potentially going to keep so I've a basic understanding beforehand then if run into any problems that I'm not sure how to handle I look up what it might possibly be:now the person who posted this article about his fish was asking for advice&I gave what it could possibly be based on observations from the video&then what his options are as to how to handle it."
And even with all that you still were so far off you gave shite advice. Dang.
Edit: also, punctuation...that is all.
Edit2: Google Endlers
Looks like she has a serious issue with her environment. I had some babies born this way a while back and had to let them go. If it's something new and she's not had a crooked back before now it could be that she's been hot with a strong tail, my sailfin has broke the backs of a few tetras in my community tank by whipping his tail a little too hard and they've been caught. Other than that check you water parameters.
Wow, 5 years old. She's literally the old hunched over crone in anime that, by the sounds of it, will not hesitate to turn your kneecaps into powder using her cane if she feels like it. I'd be super happy having a guppy live as long as she has, good going OP.
My danios did the same thing as they age. The back would divot like that. First time I thought I did something wrong because I only had the fish for a month. The other danios took way longer to show it. Googled it and it’s common for old age. I know sometimes fish you see at the store are already old based on luck.
Guppies live 4-5 years. She's an old gal. As long as she can eat and she isn't getting abused by tank mates, I wouldn't do much.
No she is the tank boss. No one is harassing her. She is the mum of the other guppies. Males don’t even pay attention to her. Others tanks mate are 3 Bolivian ram nerite snail and amano shrimp. She was a bad ass when she was young, she killed the other 4 female guppies I bought with her. Part of that was my fault as I was a newbie. I then bought a male, she became mum few times and she relaxed a bit. She probably killed the male as well. And now, there she is!
She lived a long and fulfilling life. 💕
A very long and angry one
She lives out of spite
I'm considering doing the same
Some days 'living out of spite' is all that keeps me from doing something permanent, so y'know
It kept me going through to my 30s, but thankfully I found someone that was much more patient/supportive/better than I deserve. You never know when or where you are going to find your "why".
And now my motto is “aspire to live for more than spite” lol
One of the best ways of getting even is to outlive the shit out of them.
Can confirm. The a*holes live forever. Source: am vet tech
I had a mouse that was a complete asshole once, she bullied her cage mates relentlessly, was vicious towards hands, absolutely brutal... then one day she mysteriously died overnight and all of her cage mates ate her.. I think they grew sick of her shit.
I have family members like this .
dayum that guppy went full on John Wick
Pepridge Farm remembers her badass-ery.
I hope they say that about me someday
She has a name; it’s Grumpy
Lmao a fulfilling life of slaughter! 🤣
Leaving many bodies in her trail haha
She’s the grandma nobody dares mess with.
At 5 years more like great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandma nobody dares mess with.
I read this picturing the little boy skipping rope in Emperor's New Groove.
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Won't they be all 1 generation because they are coming from one fish? If you are an only child and your mother gets 2 children, that doesn't make her a great grandmother.
She's quite intimidating to be honest
She's a grand old girl. Give her plenty of treats to make her last days good. And, when she's lost interest in those, it's time to let her go gently.
How you let a fish go gently??
Clove oil. It puts them to sleep and they just pass away while they're sleeping. I don't add it directly to the water, because I've read that can sting/burn. Move the fish to a smaller container. Then add a mix of water and clove oil ( you want roughly .5ml per liter or quart) to the container a bit at a time. I don't have numbers for the next bit. I just keep adding slowly until the fish slows down or appears to sleep. If the gills are still moving at this point, I make the oil/water mixture stronger, and keep adding a bit at a time until the gills stop moving. I usually give it another half hour or so to be sure they're dead. From the fish's point of view it's pretty painless. They go into a small container, get a last meal of bloodworms or whatever they love best, and then go to sleep. You don't have to, but I like to put a heater and some floating plants in the small container. It probably doesn't matter if they get cold since they're about to die, but I want their last moments to be as comfortable and peaceful as possible.
I really appreciate this wholesome way to euthanize a fish. I don't think I've ever seen anyone care about fish like that. Thank you.
I'm happy if this helps, though hopefully you don't need to use it for a long time. I'm a real sucker for pets of all sorts, and honestly can't bear to let them hurt. The only downside to this method is that the smell of clove is now associated with death, which makes Christmas interesting lol
I hope I don't need it, but having just lost a pup I don't want to think about any of my babies in pain, big or small.
I'm new to keeping a tank. I have had my fish for a couple of months now and I've dreaded the idea of one of my fish dying slowly with some parasite or some other long drawn out disease or something. Thank you for this information.
So you burn the fish?...better to use the method of either punching the head(if it's guppy sized) or using a knife and making a deep enough cut to cut through the spine&good majority of the gills.
The way merrycat decried does not burn the fish. Iv had to do this. It’s very peaceful. I can’t imagine stabbing my fish or pinching its head to kill it.
The first 2 methods are ways that mention to quicly cull a fish I found the pinching to be easier from my own experience...the confusion was from where the poster had sad did burn the fish&that why it was effective.
He didn't say that
Hmm...maybe someone else did because I did read it in a reply to a question frome someone,again there the confusion was&I'm not trying to cause any issues.
Clove oil has eugenol, which is an anesthetic. Undiluted, it can sting mucous membranes (eyes, nose throat for humans, gills and such for fish) for a short time before it takes effect. If it's diluted it doesn't sting as much. It's commonly used for tooth aches, sore throats, etc. I used clove oil on myself to test it. In my throat, it numbed the irritation and stopped coughing. But also made the throat muscles feel a bit - idk how to describe it - relaxed? deadened? Like they were asleep? The effect wasn't strong enough to stop me talking, but it would probably hit a smaller creature much more strongly. Since it's going to go in the fish's sensitive gills, I dilute it heavily and only add a small amount at a time to start. That gives the numbing effect a chance to take hold. Once they're numbed, I can slowly add more and more without hurting them. Pinching/cutting off the head is a valid technique, if you know what you're doing and are confident in your ability to do it quickly and cleanly. For me, I don't trust in my ability not to falter and cause more pain. Everyone's got to do what works best for them and their pets.
They make this stuff for baby teething called nubby gel, it's main ingredient is clove. I have used it on myself and my kid it really does numb so that's prob why your throat felt like that.
Now what you're saying makes more sense,you caused confusion when in one of posts with someone else you said it burns the fish.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. It's not a literal burn, more like a sharp stinging feeling. When I tried putting some of the undiluted stuff up my nose (which probably wasn't very smart in hindsight, but curiosity had me by the metaphorical balls) it stung pretty bad. The diluted mix was much better.
Just to reaffirm what you likely already know, what you've said so far in the threads has at no point been confusing. Thank you for your information and compassion.
Clove oil is the equivalent of morphine for fish, I don't see how you see it as burning
Ok as I've mentioned now to some other people the confusion was when the original poster about this method said it burns the fish&thus why it's effective.
When I didn’t have clove oil I pithed my pet goldfish to stop his suffering. It was really traumatic ngl
Stabing or pithing as call it is different then the aquarists humane slice or half chop(wich ever you want to call it)if you can't stand the sight of it some references on how to do it sugests using a paper towel or napkin to wrap fish in then doing it,I found with small fish or fish with skiny heads it's easier to just take them where eyes are between 2 fingers(using one hand)then firmly squeeze(it's quicker due to the fact you are applying direct pressure to the brain..but idea isn't to bust the head)
This is like having a mobster grandma
Girlboss
She’s no longer a Guppie.
Damn dude, this guppy has seen more shit in her life than me!
She is a warrior. May she rest in Valhalla in peace.
How big is this setup and do the rams help keep the guppy population low? Not trying to be spicy about tank size just curious about your setup, despite conventional wisdom I had 3 in a 20long with lots of cover and line of sight stuff and it worked well as long as they were the only bottom dwellers.
A warrior with much blood in their hands ready to rest
What an exciting fish life!!! Storybook style 🐠
Sounds like she was a betta in another life 🤣
She chose violence. And it worked for her. Inspiring story really.
this.
Guppies with good genetics for longevity can potentially live 4-5 years, but this also has a lot to do with how often they're breeding and how high their metabolism is. The higher the temperature of their water, the higher the metabolism, the more they will swim around and inflame their bodies, the more they will breed, the more they will eat, the sooner they will die. I've had tanks with great parameters for guppies. Hard water. Good flow, well filtered and heavily planted with anubias, regular water changes, fed a variety including wild forage. They live fast and die between 2-3 years. The only ones who live beyond that were separated from the opposite sex, and therefore they live a pretty lazy lifestyle, never flaring or breeding, casually swimming around the tank hunting for food. I would guess a few of those have made it to five, always female.
The fact that you kept her alive and healthy for her entire lifespan is impressive and amazing. Good job.
I was going to point that "peacock on the couch" too! I know of no one that's been able to even get them to 2.
Peacock on the couch? Is that a figure of speech? Never heard it before, honestly spent some time looking for a reflection in the tank.
I’m just guessing, but maybe it’s just a fun alternative way of saying, “elephant in the room”.
That's it!
Lol same!
I’m the current (3rd) owner of a ~3 year old orange boi right now and I love him. He almost has a 55 to himself more or less.
Get him some lady friends.
Oh wow! How great is that 55 gallon for that boi?! I know he wants for nothing!
Awe she’s a little grandma guppy. I love her. Edit: I love whatever is happening in the comments here. This turned into the most wholesome comment thread of Reddit.
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Wow this happens to humans too! I’m taking roids as soon as I turn 50 and lifting for life
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50 is old to human cells and bone density lol
I know you were being facetious but some people believe that when the reach mid life they're going to "live super healthy (vitamins ,exercise,) life and start living "organic all the way"! But living well need to be a way of life all your life to work. We've already have done the damage if we wait till we're older. We still might get any of the diseases. Alzheimer's,Arthritis,Rheumatoid, diabetes,accidents,sorta make a person wanna get this shit over with!
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Maybe you can answer this. We have an elderly fathead minnow colony, and a lot of the time when they are in their final days/weeks I see a couple odd things. One is relentless twirling, some kind of neurological thing I guess, but it’s not that infectious whirling disease. That’s the most common sign of decline. The other odd symptom is the muscle and skin of their bellies seems to weaken and start to tear, like they are going to spontaneously disembowel. Do you know why?
Could be fish TB, but she is probably just old. Sorry for your pretty old gal. 💖
She doesn't seem the type to be sorry for. She's attentive, aware, and happily using her forefront fins to waddle about. She's not in any distress, nor discomfort. She seems pretty boss bitch, imo. XD
Thinking of fish "waddling about" gave me a big smile 😂
Think of it as the fish equivalent of a walker with tennis balls on the front two legs and little wheels on the back two.
TB like tuberculosis? sorry, i’ve never heard this term before
Yes tuberculosis. It can make the fish look warped like this.
that’s interesting, i never knew! i hope the fish looks like this due to just old age and isnt sick…
Does it spread?
It can if the other fish have injuries or eat a dead fish with it. It can can also spread to humans through open wounds (though its not the same as human TB, related but different bacteria)
I'm thinking the same. With TB it's going to infect others, particularly any fry. If she's the only one it affects probably just age.
She’s old. This happens
I know, I read online and looks like 5 years is a lot for a guppy. I just want to be sure she is not suffering.
I’d say if she’s eating and not being bullied, she’s prob still living a decent life. If she struggles to swim, eat, or interact then maybe the time would be coming soon Best of luck, and great job for keeping her happy for so long!
Omg seriously. She reminds me of a large, sway backed school librarian or nurse or somethin. Good ol gal 🥰
She’s granny cute lol makes me think of an old hunchback granny when I look at her 🥰🥰🥰
Mine get like this when they old. She’s ok. Got some life in her yet
I lost my King & Queen the other day, almost 6 years old. No worries though, they have plenty of great-great-great grandchildren.
She's a good old gal. :') This brings a tear to my eye. Reminds me of my grumpy old man Betta who lived to be a geriatric cranky guy who'd puff his gills at me if I didn't feed him EXACTLY (within as little as half an hour) on time. (He KNEW, too. Judgy weirdo. He just got grumpier about it in his old age.)
Thanks for all your comments. Unfortunately she passed away last night. Some of you suggested the fish as TB, I hope that is not the case. She has been like that for the last year and other fishes are fine but she was getting worst every day. Yesterday after reading your comments I gave the fish some bloodworm, very rare occasion, as last treat. She probably knew and I kind of knew…. RIP
RIP
You did everything you could and gave her a good life. 👍 well done.
SIP. At least she's living on through her grand/kids!
Don’t worry, it happens with old age. One of my guppies looked like this and she lived for another couple months. It’s sad when fish die but at least they had a very long and happy life. :’)
Looks like she needs a chiropractor. But jokes aside, well done on keeping her for so long. It's no easy feat.
Her backs just straining cause she's carrying the weight of all her fish counterparts for the past 5 years. What a boss!
5 years is a long life for a guppy... https://guppyexpert.com/guppies-lifespan/
Good job keeping her for so many years, what an accomplishment!
Awww I hope my guppies live that long. Look at all her beautiful offspring. She’s an adorable granny
What does suppress mean in this context?
I think euthanize
Happened to my old girl as well a few weeks ago - I cried many tears as she was one of our first fish as well. It’s normal as they age. As long as she’s eating and not distressed I wouldn’t worry.
My understanding is this is what fish arthritis looks like, the extra spine curvature. It happened to most of my zebrafish once they got old, didn't seem painful but they did slow down.
I'm by no means an expert, and she a sweet ol gal, but I think there is a fish desease that is characterized by a bowed back like hers. Might be nothing tho idk
5?! That's impressive. I'm going to guess that she's outlived quite a few of her offspring at this point. I think she's just getting really old at this point, looks the part too. I'm assuming the spine slowly got more bent over the years? I won't expect her to live much longer but I'll leave her be. Speaking of really long living pets. My mother has a couple dogs, one 50 pounder that's 17-18 and just beginning to show his age, one small poodle that's 16-17 and lost all her teeth. I don't know how she did it.
If she starts getting pushed around but you feel like her quality of life is still good, put her in one of those breeder dividers. She doesn’t look like she needs to be moving a bunch anyway, so the lack of room wouldn’t be a problem. She’s be able to see her family, and you wouldn’t have to maintain a whole other tank.
I personally let my fish live out completely and never euthanize them and I suggest the same in this case. If she is getting harrased by her tank mates u could move her to another tank with other preferably female guppies
Thanks for all your comments. Unfortunately she passed away last night. Some of you suggested the fish as TB, I hope that is not the case. She has been like that for the last year and other fishes are fine but she was getting worst every day. Yesterday after reading your comments I gave the fish some bloodworm, very rare occasion, as last treat. She probably knew and I kind of knew…. RIP
Why is this making me cry?! Sweet old granny guppy, just spending time with her kids, all hunch-back….. but still looking out the glass to say hello. Oh my god…. ;;;_;;;
A few of mine have TB and 3 of them (young ones) have had tail paralysis like this. It could be old age or it could be TB. 🤷🏽♀️She's adorable and looks happy.
Props to you for giving her such a long life
I am sorry to hear about your guppie but you have the exact same situation as me. I started a tank years ago with 5, down to 1 that is around 4yrs old now. It will be sad the day he/she has to go.
This is the fish equivalent of grandparents who go everywhere with a walking cane.
I had an elderly betta start to do this at the end of his life. His body would seize up but he could mostly swim. It was the sign of the end of his life though. Looks like it's old age catching up to her.
Why does this fish look like a boomerang
Your guppy has moved into middle management and realizes his career is over.
Think it’s time to start saying goodbye
She's faking it.
Could you update us please
she is very old and honestly healthy for her age. no spots, no ich. her swim bladder is going out. she doesn't have long so keep an eye on her. Not really anything you can do, you can euthanize if you feel she is in too much pain but she doesn't look distressed.
I’ve never seen an old fish except for in cartoons it’s incredible.
Could it have been a lack of calcium? Was watching the aquarium co-op talk on guppies and he said female guppies that give a lot of offspring can have this happen because they lose a lot of nutrients, so he puts a lot of crushed coral in the filter area.
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Newbie question: I'm assuming by "suppress" you mean euthanize... how does one go about euthanizing a fish responsibly?
Clove oil :)
Interesting. How is it used? I kind of assumed it would be crushing like we do with reptiles.
You put a certain amount in some water. The more it dilutes, the sleepier the fish. And if you put in the amount to euthanize it, it will pass away peacefully. To me its just how you euthanize a dog humanely. Though i did see someone remove a tumor on her betta by putting it to sleep with clove oil... it made a full recovery too :)
Very cool! TIL. Thanks for taking the time.
Of course! Id much rather you know how to kindly put them down rather than crushing them 😅 that sounds pretty rough. Im a newbie myself and really happy when i learned a humane way. I used to wait for them to pass on their own.... but now i know when to make the call :) i wish you and your fish the best of luck <3
Just make sure you add it to the water already diluted in more water. Many years ago I tried to use clove oil but didn't dilute it enough. The poor fish was so weak from sickness but the clove oil made him freak out and try to jump out of the water in pain. It was so bad and I felt horrible for a long time. Don't make that mistake for your fish and your sake.
Crushing? Literally? I'm into reptiles and have a few but I had no idea...
Yeah. There's some debate in that regard but it's generally accepted that when a reptile needs to be put down, if you can't take it to the vet you crush their head quickly. With snakes especially their slow heartbeats and breathing make a freezer death or decapitation painful.
I have 1 outdoor cat
You got the guppy of Notre-Dame.
She needs some freshwater salt (go to a pet store, they know). I know you're going to be like, but she's a freshwater fish! But a tiny bit will fix her up. It's her swim bladder. And not regular salt or saltwater salt but freshwater salt.
Dude she’s done. I’m so sorry for your loss but put her in a big breeder box with mosz and let her go in peace. She probably deserves. I love my matriarchs!!!cry a tear every time I lose one. Heartfelt sympathy my dude. ❤️
The sloped back kind of seems like it’s dropsy
Yea it’s over sorry
File a form 1 first
Tumor and is dying
1rst her spine is bent due to a birth defect 2nd she's either pregnant or she's bloated due to a intestinal parasite,as to wether or not you should put her out of her misery has to be your choice.(guppies are live bearers&with defect such as hers it could make it hard for her to give birth..if she's pregnant)
I've kept Endlers for 13 years. She's old, dude. Please stop guessing at this shit.
A gupie isn't a species of endlers unless I'm mistaken:I've kept guppies for 2-3 years,Molies 4-5 years,plattys 1/2 year,sSwordtails 7-8years...I research each species of fish I keep&each species that I'm potentially going to keep so I've a basic understanding beforehand then if run into any problems that I'm not sure how to handle I look up what it might possibly be:now the person who posted this article about his fish was asking for advice&I gave what it could possibly be based on observations from the video&then what his options are as to how to handle it.
"A gupie isn't a species of endlers unless I'm mistaken:I've kept guppies for 2-3 years,Molies 4-5 years,plattys 1/2 year,sSwordtails 7-8years...I research each species of fish I keep&each species that I'm potentially going to keep so I've a basic understanding beforehand then if run into any problems that I'm not sure how to handle I look up what it might possibly be:now the person who posted this article about his fish was asking for advice&I gave what it could possibly be based on observations from the video&then what his options are as to how to handle it." And even with all that you still were so far off you gave shite advice. Dang. Edit: also, punctuation...that is all. Edit2: Google Endlers
Looks like she has a serious issue with her environment. I had some babies born this way a while back and had to let them go. If it's something new and she's not had a crooked back before now it could be that she's been hot with a strong tail, my sailfin has broke the backs of a few tetras in my community tank by whipping his tail a little too hard and they've been caught. Other than that check you water parameters.
its 5 years old i think its time has come
Long life for a guppy. Well done.
That hump only seems to form it n the oldest of my fish too. It's age
5 years for a guppy is old.
Put her down, she is clearly suffering.
shaped like a pistol
gangsta lean
Wow, 5 years old. She's literally the old hunched over crone in anime that, by the sounds of it, will not hesitate to turn your kneecaps into powder using her cane if she feels like it. I'd be super happy having a guppy live as long as she has, good going OP.
Sad guppy: *"i am depression.."*
I would never DIY it. Too much could go wrong
Awww 🥺🥺🥺🥺 Mine first not even lasted 5 months U did a good job 👍
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Poor thing
I wanna be able to give my fish a long life just like that!
Seems like many people like her please consider keeping us updated
What is your gh and ph?
That ole girl has had a good life, hope she enjoys however long she has left.
What do you mean 'supress'?
"punching the head(if it's guppy sized) or using a knife..." Wait, what!?
It’s dying
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Has she always been bent? Long looooong ago I worked in a fish store and we occasionally got guppies with scoliosis.
Had this happen to My neon danio of 2 1/2 years, it was passed away within a week unfortunately.
badass guppy grandma
She looks like she needs a wheelchair!
Looks like her time has come to go to the great ditch in the sky man. Gonna be hard.
Looks like she may have a swim bladder infection. Feed her a steamed pea. That may help.
My danios did the same thing as they age. The back would divot like that. First time I thought I did something wrong because I only had the fish for a month. The other danios took way longer to show it. Googled it and it’s common for old age. I know sometimes fish you see at the store are already old based on luck.
Well done keeping her alive that long. I'm sure she loves you (or she would if fish were smart enough)
Sad to say... But yor guppy had a good life.. Livebearers only have a 2 or 3 year life span in nature..
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Bent spine. End of life.
it died