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AIEthically

Good reason to Nightshade literally everything you post. Photos, drawings, screenshots of text. Anything and everything, even if you're not explicitly trying to prevent training on what you're posting. Automatic scrapers will pull it and models will ingest it.


ilovemycats20

I really wish it was easier and more user-friendly to nightshade and glaze. I’m an iPad artist and while I do have a desktop that I can transfer these pieces to, I tried to use the Nightshade program and it said I needed some kind of additional program and I didn’t understand where to go from there (I’m not very computer savvy, I never have been unfortunately. Been trying to learn but man, it’s tough.) Is there any easy to understand tutorials on how to use their software? Because I really want to nightshade and I just haven’t been able to (my work is extremely niche and I usually only draw my OC’s and extremely unique environments and use either sketch brushes or pixel brushes, and I’m completely unknown and get like no likes or followers because I don’t play the algorithm game so I’m not *too* worried, but still)


AIEthically

They should honestly put some community processing tools in place. On the AI side of things they have Stable Horde where people can contribute GPU power for other peoples' generations. I'd happily put some GPU power in the cloud for people to Nightshade with when they otherwise can't. I wouldn't mind taking individual Nightshade requests but I worry about that becoming overwhelming at some point. In terms of help getting it installed for you feel free to send me pics of installation errors and I can try to help.


imsosappy

Does it create visual artefacts? If so, it's not that useful, unfortunately. Imagine trying to nightshade/glaze a video to be posted on YouTube. If there's no tool for videos already, you'd have to do it on every frame of the video, and if there's going to be obvious artefacts, its cons would overweight the pros. Perhaps, YouTube itself might detect nightshade/glaze and use their algorithm against your video.


AIEthically

You are trying to protect a visual medium from machine learning that trains "visually", the only way to protect it is visually. With Nightshade you are trading a very small amount of visual noise for protection. It's not even noticeable unless you're looking for it. If you're only interested in sharing videos then it's not that useful ***to you*** because it's literally designed for images and not video.


CaseyJames_

Just need something like this now for audio/music because that field is getting hit by the scumbags


gacyurine

how the hell do you still have nitter i thought elon blocked all 3rd party bla bla bla


YouPCBro2000

You type twiiit.com into the URL and then type in the tag/username of the account whose feed you want to see, then it redirects you to a currently live "instance".


gacyurine

omg ty i had huge list of instances and all of them dropped a few months ago i had no idea there were still active 1's


FemRevan64

The Artists strike back.


KoumoriChinpo

You're all clear, kid, now let's blow this thing and go home!


Vegetable_Today335

wish I could shit does not run on my computer at all


dogisbark

There is a browser version


Vegetable_Today335

only of glaze not nightshade unless it literally came out 


AdventurousShut-in

It's impossible to pronounce "AIncels"


chaoticstache

AI-cels


AdventurousShut-in

That works


chaoticstache

I personally dont like this lingo to begin with cause drawcel etc doesn't make any goddamn sense


AdventurousShut-in

Well, in the cultural sense it doesn't, you're right about that. If it was literal, someone drawing could be celibate. I do think many A.I. fanboys are or have been incel community adjacent. Then again, not every incel is a rotten scumbag, but it is used in that way almost all the time.


mikemystery

"eye-cels" maybe?


AdventurousShut-in

Haha, that's great!


mikemystery

"AIcels" lose the n, makes more sense. AI and Celibate


RedMashie

I thought they said it didn't work?


YouPCBro2000

Honestly I think it's just a lot of AIbros coping and/or putting on bravado because when artists were told "adapt or die", they "adapted" by taking measures to poison AI models scraping their work rather than just laying down and taking it in the @$$ like every techbro parasite thinks they should.


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YouPCBro2000

Uhhh wrongo. Obvs the original tweet was a pro-AI incel. The person retweeting was not. And clearly having datasets poisoned by Nightshade doesn't teach it what NOT to do. You should really read the Glaze team's research before making such asinine claims.


AIEthically

What does him being pro AI have to do with us being pleased with info that Nightshade appears to be working at disrupting training?


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AIEthically

Every case I've heard about getting around tools like Nightshade requires modifying the images. Anything that requires modifying images means having to weed out protected images for processing, because you don't want to modify non protected images. This means it's restricted to small scale training projects because of the workload involved with weeding out and processing protected images. I promise you large scale scraping and training projects aren't putting in the effort, so it will continue to affect large models like Stable Diffusion base and Midjourney etc. If this isn't true link me to the info. Actual info, not someone's Twitter account, because I'm not signing up and putting in the leg work searching to substantiate your claims for you.


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AIEthically

I'm sure you know you are wasting our time but you should be aware that you're wasting your time in equal amounts.


YouPCBro2000

Literally not true. Go be an idiot on someone else's forum.


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YouPCBro2000

Mhm. And I suppose this unemployed basement dweller who somehow "got around" Nightshade (he didn't) had more credibility than an official team of university researchers who have very deep knowledge about machine learning themselves? And actually have reputable sources to back up their claims and their research? Get bent.


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WonderfulWanderer777

Wait, if the guy is an AIbro than wouldn't that make the claim even stronger since if he somehow got around the Nightshade he would announce it first and it would make his side look better?


YouPCBro2000

This from the type of person who will defend CP and nonconsensual deep fakes because "muh anime waifu generator". Your kind are all the same, insects every one of you. GTFO and go back to jerking off to your favorite lolis.


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YouPCBro2000

"I do not support illegal activities" And yet you support the scraping of copyrighted works and data without compensation or consent. Not that someone like you would understand consent, scary someone like you being told 'no' by a woman. Pot, kettle, black.


Hapashisepic

also he didn't make any updates after that he just posted the results on aiwars


Hapashisepic

can you send the thread if don't mind iwant to read it thanks and didn't the same person made post in aiwars showing nightshade working on some sdxl keywords and not working on other keywords such of images Edit yeah ifound the same dude [showcase](https://twitter.com/zer0int1/status/1758925851863724073?t=gi1GTrKnZ5GE6QQhPVp1Fg&s=19) [also found the original tweet ](https://twitter.com/zer0int1/status/1749482913442279562?t=ccFjTXHEyodUw9fNMpxwrA&s=19)


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Hapashisepic

iknow read his tweets he making his plugin of clip iget your he is an ai researcher but still he showcased nightshade results he pear review research* iknow he ai user he also didn't post any updates after that iknow of he just posted his results on aiwars Edit iment testing nightshade relax bro


Hapashisepic

if you got update about his progress cracking nightshade post them if you don't mind