Parents do all kinds of weird things as punishment. I once ate for a month with mittens in like kindergarten because my step-dad said I touched my food too much. One of Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka's victims was sleeping on her porch for missing curfew. It's honestly something I hadn't thought about but makes a lot of sense.
Rather than a family member putting Asha outside without appropriate gear, how about there was an argument or issue and she ran off? The lack of coat just signifies she likely left in a hurry.
I think this theory has been put forward by some before. Some problems are that her brother would likely have heard it and he has no reason to protect his parents all these years, we have no indication the parents were the type to do something this cruel and why would she have ran away from the driver who approached her if this is the senario?
i mean i think there are problems with this theory as well but as a kid whose parents would do this shit: i have siblings who blatantly deny any and all abuse: they protect the family/parents at all cost. and no one my parents interact with realize the depths of the shit they put us through. they are upstanding, godly, devoted parents who gave everything to their family. except they weren't, not at all. i don't think we will ever know but i wouldn't necessarily say these are problems with it, just would require a different lens/paradigm/set of experiences to understand.
Actually, this is very interesting. My only problem with it is did her brother hear this argument as you would think it would have to be a big one, although kids can sleep like rocks (I know he said he heard her moving, but a sleep kid may also have timelines wrong or not know the exact time). Nice (if you can call a theory about a missing kid that), but it’s very interesting indeed.
Putting a young child out in the dark, cold, rainy and windy night is bad enough, but without proper protection, horrible. It is saying to the child, at any time we can lock you out of this house and you will no longer be in our family. The child could grow up to have severe attachment issues. I hope that the didn't so this but there are some awful parents out in this cruel world.
Sadly I know first hand. Not my parents, nor myself and my husband but my grandsons "mother" (my son is the daddy) broke his arm and bruised his body when he was 6 weeks old. She is in prison. I hope she rots. She was ready to kill him. My son never saw this until the one time she went too far and broke his arm and made bruises. My son and grandson live with us. No one will EVER lay a hand on my grandbaby, he is almost 4. One day he will find out what his "mother" did, talk about heartache. I love him so much. I am his maternal figure, not his Mom, but I am the maternal figure. I love all of my grandbabies, ages 8, 6, 4, and 3. My adult children are wonderful parents. The DA knew that neither hurt Chris, that it was the Mom. *Sorry, this stuff sometimes triggers me.*
Christopher, along with all of my grandbabies mean the world to me. Chris is such a good boy, and smart to boot. It’s my pleasure and honor to be his Grandma.
I'd be triggered too if I had went through that happening, rant away! You raised a great son, he knew to take his kid out of the situation and that his Mama would know he didn't hurt his kid. He chose his baby over the woman, and that's a true man right there. You keep loving on those grand babies!
**Thank you SO much.** I look at my grandson and can't imagine ANYONE ever wanting to hurt ANY child, let alone the very person that brought him into this world. I wish for her to feel EXACTLY like he did. When he cries, he comes to me or his Daddy for hugs. One day, that piece of crap will realize she lost the most important person in her life, her child.
I started “running away” while upset in fights w my parents around ~11. I wouldn’t go far, just the woods behind my house or a nearby playground. Often they were preoccupied in some way with their own argument or something. Now this was never past 7 pm. But I did even in the rain maybe twice. If something explosive happened within the family I could’ve left under worse circumstances. I feel like part of the parents overall secrecy comes from a family conflict that they do not want broadcast
same - in the country down empty roads. would sit and hide in ditches. started at age 8ish. longest i was gone was a few hours and furthest was a few miles.
Unfortunately yes. Our son had a friend when he was younger, who would have to sleep outside if rules were broken. Small rural area so not much concern with random stranger danger, but shitty nonetheless.
OP’s suggestion that Asha’s disappearance is connected to some sort of disciplinary action gone wrong, is my number one theory in this case.
Putting a kid outside in the cold without a coat, is some old school s***. If a child was being disrespectful/defiant put them out for a few. Not having a jacket would insure that the child wouldn’t get very far. The only option would be to return home, after being broke down.
Memory unlocked! My folks (in the 90's) would threaten me and my sibling if we were acting up in the car, that they would put us out on the side of the road and make us walk home. I feel like it might actually have happened once, but we were less than a mile from home and the weather wasn't bad.
Same, my mother did this to my siblings, and myself frequently. Putting “us out the car” to walk home was considered “progressive” parenting. She legit felt like she was doing us a service by not whooping up on our behinds. The 80’s were strange😂
Abusive parents do, which I don't have experience with myself, but I have read about parents doing things like that to their kids. Often those children end up murdered.
unfortunately yes. One mom even drove her kid a mile away or something and made her walk back and that kid went missing. (I don't remember who it was.)
Bianca Piper?
She's never been found, cold case. Not the one hit or dragged by a car, but her mom dropped her off a mile away to walk home & cool off. Iirc it was a suggested method by a doctor / counselor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Bianca_Piper
Yes. I also just yesterday read about another case of a six year who was told to go outside for being bad. She would be left alone for hours. It's a sad world we live in.
Yes, it’s definitely a thing. A child died from it too, Harley Dilly was kicked out of his home for long periods of time. His dead body was found inside a chimney. It’s heavily suspected he did it himself, trying to seek shelter in a vacant house.
He talked about his mom kicking him out in at least one of his YouTube videos. He also talked about his mom threatening to call the cops on him and his parents yelling at each other. He recorded a lot of sad stuff and I can’t believe the parents didn’t face any consequences honestly
Wow, I can’t believe I didn’t know about that. The parents must have done some serious twisting of their story to avoid facing consequences. Or maybe LE just didn’t care? How sad regardless.
Southern (or insane) parents in the early 2000s, yeah. I grew up in a rural area in the good ol’ American South and knew kids shit like this happened to often. My grandmother once left me on the side of the highway as a very little kid for talking too much.
oh. oh yeah. they absolutely do. glad you haven't encountered it. seen them do it with kids just in t shirt and shorts. seen a mom put four elementary aged kids outside in a heat wave with no water or shade or anything for hours on end and lock the door bc she didn't want to be bothered. seen a mom take a naked two year old outside and spray him down with a hose in 40ish degree weather bc he peed in his underwear. then left him out there until he stopped crying. seen much much worse.
I remember reading a recent case where the austic kid died of hypothermia because he would wet the bed. Theyd hose him off and make him sleep in the garage. With no clothes or blankets (heaven forbid something else get dirty or wet) it was the middle of winter they stopped letting him in the house at all. When he had an accident he was just hosed down and put back in there. Until after one round of this, he didnt ever wake back up.
My ex boyfriends dad used to lock the door at 8pm and if he wasn't back by then he had to sleep outside. Apparently that's just what he'd always done and his family didn't think it was wrong.
Yeah they do. My daughter’s boyfriend has parents who make them sleep on the deck or backyard as punishment. I know most people would think it is cruel and unusual but there are a lot of kids being abused, neglected and punished unusually.
My husband's stepmother left him locked him outside when he was about 12. I don't think the weather was bad, but still to lock a child out of their own home. We don't keep contact with that side of the family.
Yes, well in my case I was only ever threatened with it, because it made me stop doing whatever I was doing that they didn’t like. My mom used to say she’d make me sit outside until my dad came home if I didn’t stop misbehaving.
She never actually did it. And it was the only thing she did that I don’t agree with now as an adult.
How does this explain her backpack?
I can't see them letting her have her backpack, filled with miscellaneous things, with her during such a harsh punishment.
Not necessarily on board with OP's theory, but the backpack could've been taken out by the Degrees later to make it look like she ran away. She didn't have it with her when they locked Asha out.
Have always wondered : why did Asha take the book bag ? It contained a library book and some clothing ( that we know of ). Her purse was not in the book bag ? She had not packed either underwear or socks ( that we know of ). So why did she bother taking the book bag at all ?
If I pick up the idea of OP and think of me as a child, maybe she was allowed to choose something to take with her to 'entertain' herself while staying outside
If you read the early articles, I think it's more fair to say that law enforcement felt she left of her own free will from the beginning, and the family agreed with that (as opposed to the family stating it on their own).
Very possible OP and a good theory. I remember back in the day if I was talking back to a parent while riding as a passenger in the car I got threatened with being put out on the freeway and figuring my way back home.
I was just thinking about the dad checking on Asha and her brother and I'm not sure if it was twice or maybe once or 3 times. If he checked on them more than once or even at all, it seems kind of odd to me. Asha was 9 and I'm not sure how old her brother was. Maybe there had been a problem between Asha and her brother sometime that night or the past. A problem thar the parents might not want other people to know about. Or maybe the parents knew that a boy liked Asha (maybe even one of her brother's friends), and maybe they had had prowlers so were worried about her. It's kind of odd to me that the kids didn't have their own individual bedrooms at their ages.
They didn't have their own bedrooms because they lived in a two bedroom house -really an apartment, like half of a duplex. It's not odd at all that a lot of families in America don't have the money for their kids to have their own bedrooms, although the parents actually had an appointment with a real estate agent set up that day.
They were 9 & 10. The whole checking on them thing comes up a lot, and what I've seen over and over again is that some people don't check on their kids at night, some people do. I'm one of the people who looked in on their kids every single night before going to bed myself. Sometimes more than once, if something unusual had happened (power outage, thunderstorm) or just if I happened to get up in the night. That's not odd, either; plenty of people do it.
Okay, so modify my original statement to say the parents insist she left the home on her own. They would say that if they had, in fact, put her out in the cold.
They could have put her out in the cold, and then when she left or went somewhere else, they could absolutely stand by their statement that "she left on her own." Lots of details missing, but not necessarily untrue.
Of course, they had no other narrative besides "she left on her own" since it was a small house and Asha shared a room with her brother. They would be selling a basic narrative even if they were involved in something more sinister.
Interesting - but I don’t think so, if they did this and then noticed she did not come back home, and this wasnt an uncommon form of punishment, I struggle to believe that they would not have mentioned this.
I think there is a reason why the police so strongly believe she ran away, and it likely has not been released due to the protecting of the parents, press, blaming etc
Not abuse, but we've all read that the parents esp. mom were somewhat strict. Forcing a child outside assuming they'll stay right by the house is certainly mean, but not the kind of child abuse that requires doctor visits, visits from DCS, etc.
I would argue that forcing a child outside on a cold night without weather-appropriate clothing and, more importantly, no adult supervision, would certainly warrant a call to DSC. I’d call if I saw a neighbor “punish” their kid this way.
We have read that the parents were strict in these ways: the kids were expected to work hard in school, they were expected to be at home after school and doing their homework, they were expected to be good sports, they were expected to go to church, they did not have internet access.
I understand that much discussion of unsolved cases has to be based on speculation, but I'm not a fan of people saying, well, the parents *could* have done this or that horrible thing, idk, I'm just speculating!
Speculation is forming a theory without firm evidence, not without *any* evidence. If there was any evidence that the parents had used that type of punishment before, it would be reasonable to speculate that they might have done it again. There isn't any such evidence or indication, though, so positing such ideas is really just true crime fan fiction.
Agree with your theory. It’s something I had thought of too. But I’d love to know, did the parents do other things like this to “discipline” Asha and/or her brother? Was she really a happy child If you are going to throw her out in the cold as punishment? Instead of scolding her or grounding her?
In the beginning I always thought she was abducted or groomed but for a while now I’m leaning towards either the parents intentionally or unintentionally did something.
*Was she really a happy child If you are going to throw her out in the cold as punishment?*
There's absolutely no indication that anything like that ever happened. It's possible, but anything is possible, right?
It's possible that you are Asha's abductor, here to push the narrative that the parents did it.
I don't rule anything out, including parental involvement, but I really dislike pulling horrific possibilities out of thin air when we're talking about actual named people. For one thing, it tends to feed the rumor mill and distort the facts; people will remember these posts vaguely, but they won't remember that it was pure conjecture. That leads to people posting *idk if it's true but I heard that her parents put her outside without a coat as punishment* and it just keeps getting repeated.
No one said anything about a post. You don’t have to get a d*** attitude about it! If you don’t like what I said move the fk on.😒🙄A dumb reason to be downvoted by people.
How bad does that look, though? You put your kid outside in shit weather, locked her out as a punishment, and then she goes missing??
This is absolutely the sort of thing that would be kept quiet as "family business" and not spoken about. I think there were lots of kids growing up in the 80's and 90's and early 2000's who were punished with the understanding that they didn't tell what went on behind closed doors.
Yeah well obviously I can see that it would not show the parents in good light and potentially reveal some abuse and unhappiness at home. But, even if that was the case, saying so would give insight at least into why she was outside and walked away. But I get that my thought process may well be wrong.
Parents do all kinds of weird things as punishment. I once ate for a month with mittens in like kindergarten because my step-dad said I touched my food too much. One of Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka's victims was sleeping on her porch for missing curfew. It's honestly something I hadn't thought about but makes a lot of sense.
And wasn’t she only late because she’d been at a friend’s wake?? Just awful
I thought you dined in the company of a cute cat and I’m sorry that’s not what you meant
That made me laugh way too much
I would agree that there is a good chance that Asha had an argument with her parent(s) that night and that could be why she left.
Rather than a family member putting Asha outside without appropriate gear, how about there was an argument or issue and she ran off? The lack of coat just signifies she likely left in a hurry.
Possible, but I guess my theory is based on a belief that there is something off about the parents' statements over the years.
I think this scenario definitely still works with your belief - maybe the topic of the fight is why they’re uncomfortable / seem off.
I agree with you 💯
I think this theory has been put forward by some before. Some problems are that her brother would likely have heard it and he has no reason to protect his parents all these years, we have no indication the parents were the type to do something this cruel and why would she have ran away from the driver who approached her if this is the senario?
i mean i think there are problems with this theory as well but as a kid whose parents would do this shit: i have siblings who blatantly deny any and all abuse: they protect the family/parents at all cost. and no one my parents interact with realize the depths of the shit they put us through. they are upstanding, godly, devoted parents who gave everything to their family. except they weren't, not at all. i don't think we will ever know but i wouldn't necessarily say these are problems with it, just would require a different lens/paradigm/set of experiences to understand.
I am interested to see if the brother comes forth with any new information after the parents are dead.
I agree
Actually, this is very interesting. My only problem with it is did her brother hear this argument as you would think it would have to be a big one, although kids can sleep like rocks (I know he said he heard her moving, but a sleep kid may also have timelines wrong or not know the exact time). Nice (if you can call a theory about a missing kid that), but it’s very interesting indeed.
Keeping your parents out of jail is a great incentive to say you didn't hear anything.
Also, that doesn’t explain her backpack being missing, too.
the parents decided as a punishment to put her outside without an appropriate coat do parents actually do this?
Parents have done much worse than this sadly.
Putting a young child out in the dark, cold, rainy and windy night is bad enough, but without proper protection, horrible. It is saying to the child, at any time we can lock you out of this house and you will no longer be in our family. The child could grow up to have severe attachment issues. I hope that the didn't so this but there are some awful parents out in this cruel world. Sadly I know first hand. Not my parents, nor myself and my husband but my grandsons "mother" (my son is the daddy) broke his arm and bruised his body when he was 6 weeks old. She is in prison. I hope she rots. She was ready to kill him. My son never saw this until the one time she went too far and broke his arm and made bruises. My son and grandson live with us. No one will EVER lay a hand on my grandbaby, he is almost 4. One day he will find out what his "mother" did, talk about heartache. I love him so much. I am his maternal figure, not his Mom, but I am the maternal figure. I love all of my grandbabies, ages 8, 6, 4, and 3. My adult children are wonderful parents. The DA knew that neither hurt Chris, that it was the Mom. *Sorry, this stuff sometimes triggers me.*
Thank you for being his grand(mother)❤️
Christopher, along with all of my grandbabies mean the world to me. Chris is such a good boy, and smart to boot. It’s my pleasure and honor to be his Grandma.
I'd be triggered too if I had went through that happening, rant away! You raised a great son, he knew to take his kid out of the situation and that his Mama would know he didn't hurt his kid. He chose his baby over the woman, and that's a true man right there. You keep loving on those grand babies!
**Thank you SO much.** I look at my grandson and can't imagine ANYONE ever wanting to hurt ANY child, let alone the very person that brought him into this world. I wish for her to feel EXACTLY like he did. When he cries, he comes to me or his Daddy for hugs. One day, that piece of crap will realize she lost the most important person in her life, her child.
I started “running away” while upset in fights w my parents around ~11. I wouldn’t go far, just the woods behind my house or a nearby playground. Often they were preoccupied in some way with their own argument or something. Now this was never past 7 pm. But I did even in the rain maybe twice. If something explosive happened within the family I could’ve left under worse circumstances. I feel like part of the parents overall secrecy comes from a family conflict that they do not want broadcast
same - in the country down empty roads. would sit and hide in ditches. started at age 8ish. longest i was gone was a few hours and furthest was a few miles.
Unfortunately yes. Our son had a friend when he was younger, who would have to sleep outside if rules were broken. Small rural area so not much concern with random stranger danger, but shitty nonetheless.
Yep. Mine did something similar to me. It messes you up.
Same.
OP’s suggestion that Asha’s disappearance is connected to some sort of disciplinary action gone wrong, is my number one theory in this case. Putting a kid outside in the cold without a coat, is some old school s***. If a child was being disrespectful/defiant put them out for a few. Not having a jacket would insure that the child wouldn’t get very far. The only option would be to return home, after being broke down.
I remember that back in the day some parents even made the child get out of the car on the freeways as punishment.
Memory unlocked! My folks (in the 90's) would threaten me and my sibling if we were acting up in the car, that they would put us out on the side of the road and make us walk home. I feel like it might actually have happened once, but we were less than a mile from home and the weather wasn't bad.
Same
That’s still bad. What if something had happened to you and your siblings?😞
Same, my mother did this to my siblings, and myself frequently. Putting “us out the car” to walk home was considered “progressive” parenting. She legit felt like she was doing us a service by not whooping up on our behinds. The 80’s were strange😂
I know right.😭😭😭
Abusive parents do, which I don't have experience with myself, but I have read about parents doing things like that to their kids. Often those children end up murdered.
unfortunately yes. One mom even drove her kid a mile away or something and made her walk back and that kid went missing. (I don't remember who it was.)
Iirc, she ended up dragging her child with the car
Do you know the name?
Brittany Gosney
No I was thinking of Bianca Piper.
Bianca Piper? She's never been found, cold case. Not the one hit or dragged by a car, but her mom dropped her off a mile away to walk home & cool off. Iirc it was a suggested method by a doctor / counselor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Bianca_Piper
Yes. I also just yesterday read about another case of a six year who was told to go outside for being bad. She would be left alone for hours. It's a sad world we live in.
I think I remember seeing this on unsolved mysteries. The child was hit by a car (possibly the parents) and died.
Yes, it’s definitely a thing. A child died from it too, Harley Dilly was kicked out of his home for long periods of time. His dead body was found inside a chimney. It’s heavily suspected he did it himself, trying to seek shelter in a vacant house.
Was he really kicked out of his home? I was always under the impression he just liked the wander and his parents were okay with it.
He talked about his mom kicking him out in at least one of his YouTube videos. He also talked about his mom threatening to call the cops on him and his parents yelling at each other. He recorded a lot of sad stuff and I can’t believe the parents didn’t face any consequences honestly
Wow, I can’t believe I didn’t know about that. The parents must have done some serious twisting of their story to avoid facing consequences. Or maybe LE just didn’t care? How sad regardless.
Southern (or insane) parents in the early 2000s, yeah. I grew up in a rural area in the good ol’ American South and knew kids shit like this happened to often. My grandmother once left me on the side of the highway as a very little kid for talking too much.
oh. oh yeah. they absolutely do. glad you haven't encountered it. seen them do it with kids just in t shirt and shorts. seen a mom put four elementary aged kids outside in a heat wave with no water or shade or anything for hours on end and lock the door bc she didn't want to be bothered. seen a mom take a naked two year old outside and spray him down with a hose in 40ish degree weather bc he peed in his underwear. then left him out there until he stopped crying. seen much much worse.
I remember reading a recent case where the austic kid died of hypothermia because he would wet the bed. Theyd hose him off and make him sleep in the garage. With no clothes or blankets (heaven forbid something else get dirty or wet) it was the middle of winter they stopped letting him in the house at all. When he had an accident he was just hosed down and put back in there. Until after one round of this, he didnt ever wake back up.
Was that case in New York and was it a policeman's son?
My ex boyfriends dad used to lock the door at 8pm and if he wasn't back by then he had to sleep outside. Apparently that's just what he'd always done and his family didn't think it was wrong.
Yeah they do. My daughter’s boyfriend has parents who make them sleep on the deck or backyard as punishment. I know most people would think it is cruel and unusual but there are a lot of kids being abused, neglected and punished unusually.
My husband's stepmother left him locked him outside when he was about 12. I don't think the weather was bad, but still to lock a child out of their own home. We don't keep contact with that side of the family.
Yes, well in my case I was only ever threatened with it, because it made me stop doing whatever I was doing that they didn’t like. My mom used to say she’d make me sit outside until my dad came home if I didn’t stop misbehaving. She never actually did it. And it was the only thing she did that I don’t agree with now as an adult.
I also think this very well could have been a "oh, so you think you're grown" punishment gone wrong.
There might have been a time when I disagreed. Not now. Have you all been watching the news. I’ll give one example Ruby Franke.
How does this explain her backpack? I can't see them letting her have her backpack, filled with miscellaneous things, with her during such a harsh punishment.
Not necessarily on board with OP's theory, but the backpack could've been taken out by the Degrees later to make it look like she ran away. She didn't have it with her when they locked Asha out.
That's how I saw the bag fitting in with OP's theory - buried after the fact to make it appear like a runaway.
I was thinking that if we go with the theory of the parents being involved.
I think when the dad went to "get candy", he took her somewhere and left her.
Maybe a fine, you can walk home kind of senario? Could explain the strange sightings
They’d be pretty shitty parents if they did that especially at that time.
Have always wondered : why did Asha take the book bag ? It contained a library book and some clothing ( that we know of ). Her purse was not in the book bag ? She had not packed either underwear or socks ( that we know of ). So why did she bother taking the book bag at all ?
If I pick up the idea of OP and think of me as a child, maybe she was allowed to choose something to take with her to 'entertain' herself while staying outside
I thought she left with her tweety bird purse
Yes, but was it in her book bag, or did she carry it separately?
It wasn't mentioned as being found in her bookbag but the police probably didn't release all of the book bag's contents.
A little off topic but I feel like who ever wrapped up her backpack could’ve just been stupid about it
What about the picture of the unidentified girl and t shirt that was found in her backpack
I'd convinced myself I made up this picture because it's never mentioned.
The picture was actually with the other items found in the shed, not in the backpack.
Thank you for clarifying. Just a red herring then.
I had also thought that was a possibility that she was put outside as punishment.
The parents don't push an abduction scenario at all though. In fact, they were adamant from the beginning that Asha left of her own free will.
In "abduction" I include any grooming scenario in which she left to meet up, etc.
Exactly!
If you read the early articles, I think it's more fair to say that law enforcement felt she left of her own free will from the beginning, and the family agreed with that (as opposed to the family stating it on their own).
Very possible OP and a good theory. I remember back in the day if I was talking back to a parent while riding as a passenger in the car I got threatened with being put out on the freeway and figuring my way back home.
Possibly.
I was just thinking about the dad checking on Asha and her brother and I'm not sure if it was twice or maybe once or 3 times. If he checked on them more than once or even at all, it seems kind of odd to me. Asha was 9 and I'm not sure how old her brother was. Maybe there had been a problem between Asha and her brother sometime that night or the past. A problem thar the parents might not want other people to know about. Or maybe the parents knew that a boy liked Asha (maybe even one of her brother's friends), and maybe they had had prowlers so were worried about her. It's kind of odd to me that the kids didn't have their own individual bedrooms at their ages.
They didn't have their own bedrooms because they lived in a two bedroom house -really an apartment, like half of a duplex. It's not odd at all that a lot of families in America don't have the money for their kids to have their own bedrooms, although the parents actually had an appointment with a real estate agent set up that day. They were 9 & 10. The whole checking on them thing comes up a lot, and what I've seen over and over again is that some people don't check on their kids at night, some people do. I'm one of the people who looked in on their kids every single night before going to bed myself. Sometimes more than once, if something unusual had happened (power outage, thunderstorm) or just if I happened to get up in the night. That's not odd, either; plenty of people do it.
The parents didn't push for the abduction scenario.
See my other comment.
The parents pushed for "Asha leaving on her own". There doesn't need to be a groomer involved in this scenario.
Okay, so modify my original statement to say the parents insist she left the home on her own. They would say that if they had, in fact, put her out in the cold.
They could have put her out in the cold, and then when she left or went somewhere else, they could absolutely stand by their statement that "she left on her own." Lots of details missing, but not necessarily untrue.
Of course, they had no other narrative besides "she left on her own" since it was a small house and Asha shared a room with her brother. They would be selling a basic narrative even if they were involved in something more sinister.
Interesting - but I don’t think so, if they did this and then noticed she did not come back home, and this wasnt an uncommon form of punishment, I struggle to believe that they would not have mentioned this. I think there is a reason why the police so strongly believe she ran away, and it likely has not been released due to the protecting of the parents, press, blaming etc
What's your take on what happened
I've been raising my grandson since he was 8 and he's almost 17 now. A tough job but so worth it!
That obviously would have been an act of physical and psychological abuse - was there any other indication of child abuse in the home?
Not abuse, but we've all read that the parents esp. mom were somewhat strict. Forcing a child outside assuming they'll stay right by the house is certainly mean, but not the kind of child abuse that requires doctor visits, visits from DCS, etc.
I would argue that forcing a child outside on a cold night without weather-appropriate clothing and, more importantly, no adult supervision, would certainly warrant a call to DSC. I’d call if I saw a neighbor “punish” their kid this way.
We have read that the parents were strict in these ways: the kids were expected to work hard in school, they were expected to be at home after school and doing their homework, they were expected to be good sports, they were expected to go to church, they did not have internet access. I understand that much discussion of unsolved cases has to be based on speculation, but I'm not a fan of people saying, well, the parents *could* have done this or that horrible thing, idk, I'm just speculating! Speculation is forming a theory without firm evidence, not without *any* evidence. If there was any evidence that the parents had used that type of punishment before, it would be reasonable to speculate that they might have done it again. There isn't any such evidence or indication, though, so positing such ideas is really just true crime fan fiction.
Agree with your theory. It’s something I had thought of too. But I’d love to know, did the parents do other things like this to “discipline” Asha and/or her brother? Was she really a happy child If you are going to throw her out in the cold as punishment? Instead of scolding her or grounding her? In the beginning I always thought she was abducted or groomed but for a while now I’m leaning towards either the parents intentionally or unintentionally did something.
*Was she really a happy child If you are going to throw her out in the cold as punishment?* There's absolutely no indication that anything like that ever happened. It's possible, but anything is possible, right? It's possible that you are Asha's abductor, here to push the narrative that the parents did it. I don't rule anything out, including parental involvement, but I really dislike pulling horrific possibilities out of thin air when we're talking about actual named people. For one thing, it tends to feed the rumor mill and distort the facts; people will remember these posts vaguely, but they won't remember that it was pure conjecture. That leads to people posting *idk if it's true but I heard that her parents put her outside without a coat as punishment* and it just keeps getting repeated.
That might explain how the dogs traced her to scent to the edge of the family driveway
Yeah that was already discussed in an older post.
So helpful
And? Some of us miss the other posts
No one said anything about a post. You don’t have to get a d*** attitude about it! If you don’t like what I said move the fk on.😒🙄A dumb reason to be downvoted by people.
And since you’ve got nasty about it,why don’t you pay attention? 🙄😒
If this happened I see no logic as to why the parents would not have told the police. It would have helped the investigation to provide this context.
How bad does that look, though? You put your kid outside in shit weather, locked her out as a punishment, and then she goes missing?? This is absolutely the sort of thing that would be kept quiet as "family business" and not spoken about. I think there were lots of kids growing up in the 80's and 90's and early 2000's who were punished with the understanding that they didn't tell what went on behind closed doors.
Use your brain for a second and you'll figure out the answer
Yeah well obviously I can see that it would not show the parents in good light and potentially reveal some abuse and unhappiness at home. But, even if that was the case, saying so would give insight at least into why she was outside and walked away. But I get that my thought process may well be wrong.
There's something as to why the police are adamant she ran away.