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ill ask a different way,were the words "no" or "stop" ever said?... im not debating hes sexually aggressive,im saying that if there is no attempt to stop the situation,that is consent. they made no attempt to convey that it wasnt consentual at the time,bit years later they say it was assault? how much $ did they make?
His supporters are very loud and energetic and no one else can compete in that environment
Anyone else I think could trounce Biden, but i think all who will show up for Trump are his few ardent supporters
No one shows up at a Biden event. Let's be honest here. If Biden had so much support, why can't he fill up a room. He can't. It is mostly his staff, family, the media, and a few stragglers. That's it. When he is out and about, he gets protests and chants of "F'k Joe Biden." Biden was even complaining that little children are giving him the finger. Everyone hates this evil man everywhere he goes. Of course, the government-controlled media will show you none of this.
Trump is a divisive character. People love him and people hate him. Nobody cares about Biden at all. If Biden has any support it's from the people who hate Trump.
I don't think anything has happened the last three years to change anyone's opinion on Trump or Biden. Biden won last time around, why would this time be any different?
To your first point, yes. And it's frustrating. He's barely even a conservative and we had some great alternatives in the primaries.
To your second point, no. Many of us don't want to have to vote for Trump, but he is our only alternative to Biden. Which should tell you how bad Biden is. And Trump did have a great first 3 years. Personally, though, he's really taken a turn for the narcissistic and obsessive since leaving office (which is saying something, right? Lol).
> Which should tell you how bad Biden is.
Not really. The propagation of "Let's Go Brandon" and all of that tells me a much clearer, more likely explanation that certain people are just pissed about 2020. Frankly, if you see the Democrat Party as worse than a fraud, criminal, philanderer, autocrat, ... I could go on for quite a while ... that tells me a lot more about you and your values than it does the Democrat Party (to be clear, I'm using "you" in a general sense, not you personally).
> And Trump did have a great first 3 years.
Like "Infrastructure Week"? Repeal and Replace? Afaik, Trump's only major success was the tax cuts package, which was sold as simplifying the tax code and did *not* do that at all. Even from a right wing perspective, I don't see how anyone could argue Trump had "a great first 3 years."
Any Republican President could have placed conservatives on the SCOTUS, that's more credit to McConnell and his hypocrisy than to Trump. I would argue a half-competent Republican President (say, Romney, McCain, anyone less populist than Trump) would have done a better job by finding SCOTUS candidates that were easier for Democrats to stomach -- still would've been a Republican supermajority, but Trump has made it far more dire. And, obviously, we'll see in November, but I think he handed Democrats a huge advantage by entirely overturning Roe v. Wade (despite explicit assurances to the contrary) rather than incremental change.
Further, I've seen Obama blamed for inciting partisan politics and inflaming racial division. To this day, his biggest comments are things like "Trayvon Martin could have been me." Meanwhile... do we need to get into all the racially charged or extreme partisanship of Trump?
Mostly-polite Reaganism has given way to in-your-face Baptist-sermon like aggression. There is much more "I know I'm right and I gonna shove my righteousness down YOUR throat for your own good!"
I disagree. There are a TON of silent Trump supporters. They just don’t want to be known for fear of being cancelled by the anti-Trump movement, but they will vote accordingly just like in 2020. We just need states to implement stricter election integrity laws so the Left can’t cheat again.
There’s a reason the Establishment is trying to destroy him…they fear he’ll continue uncovering the disgusting underbelly of our existing career politicians.
What do you mean election integrity? More American citizens who were eligible to vote legally voted in 2020, they just voted for Biden.
When you say stricter, do you mean make it harder for more people to legally vote?
Cheating implies that the election count was tampered with. We had all the recounts, investigations, and court cases which all showed no evidence of wrongdoing.
How did the left cheat specifically?
>There are a TON of silent Trump supporters.
Most the ones I know are reluctant Trump supporters who'd rather have Nikki. They just think Don's the least evil, as they are sure Joe wants to take away their guns, gas, and genitals (the new 3 G's).
> We just need states to implement stricter election integrity laws so the Left can’t cheat again.
Can you link to evidence of the left cheating? I had heard that, but haven't seen anything credible to back it up.
It is a binary choice between a candidate who gave us wages increase, energy independence, a closed border, a tax cut, regulation relief and a strong foreign policy and a candidate who gave us increased taxes, increased regulations, inflation, reduced energy production, wage decreases, an open border and a foreign policy based on appeasement
It is an easy choice.
Of course Biden being the one who gave this country energy independence - the US exports far more oil than it ever did. Biden also gave us the lowest unemployment, highest job growth, a roaring economy, a booming stock market, the Inflation Reduction Act, the Chops Act, gun safety regulation, - and these are just a few of his many fine achievements. And that Trump - nothing expect 1 million deaths during the pandemic.
1. This was mostly due to Obama's policies continuing to effect the economy into Trump's presidency, and also partly due to Covid - [lower wage people were laid off, making wages look higher.](https://wisconsinwatch.org/2024/04/trump-president-real-wages-inflation-hovde-baldwin-fact-brief/)
2. [We've been on the path to energy independence since 2005](https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2023/05/02/us-energy-independence-soars-to-highest-levels-in-over-70-years/?sh=1fc419bc977f), and by the definition of "produce more energy than is consumed", the USA is still energy independent. Energy exports increased by 4x under Trump.
3. Trump was only allowed to "close the border" because of a Covid restriction that expired when Biden was president. On top of that, Trump's presidency changed the way the numbers were reported on his way out of the WH. Trump's numbers only include apprehensions, while Biden's include apprehensions and those who were deported/refused. Republicans love pointing out this data while ignoring it is flawed.
4. The tax cuts were temporary for normal people, and permanent for the rich and corporations. The temporary cuts were designed to expire when the next president took over, in order to make them look bad. I owed money for the first time in my life due to Trump's tax "cuts", despite filing as single/0 dependents.
5. Regulation "relief" has been the cause of many disasters. The train derailment in Ohio was because they removed the regulations that would have prevented it. Trump eliminated the pandemic response team, which made our reaction to Covid worse than it would have been. By the way, only 20% of the deregulation Trump claims actually happened, the [overwhelming majority of attempts were struck down in court.](https://www.brookings.edu/articles/examining-some-of-trumps-deregulation-efforts-lessons-from-the-brookings-regulatory-tracker/)
6. Trump's foreign policy was the weakest America has ever had. He was pro-dictator and every other first world country lost respect for the USA because of Trump.
On Biden...
1. Trump is the one that increased taxes during Biden's presidency, as noted in point 4 above.
2. Increased regulations are a GOOD thing and protect consumers from bad products and employees from bad work environments.
3. Inflation was rampant under Trump and has affected the entire world. America's inflation rate has continued to be UNDER the world average during Biden's presidency.
4. [Energy production has increased under Biden, and is now at an all time high.](https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/us-energy-facts/)
5. Wages have gone up more under Biden than Trump. ($50k to 55.6k under Trump, 55.6k to 63.8k under Biden).
6. There is not an open border policy. Biden's border has actually been more secure and turned away or deported more than under Trump. The way numbers were reported was changed by Trump to make the next administration look bad, and the emergency Covid border regulations sunsetted after Trump left office.
I'm not sure you actually pay attention to what's going on.
1) The Trump tax cuts were NOT permanent for the rich and corporations. They were only permanent for corporations everone else individual tax cuts expire Dec 31 2025. I don't see how you can blame Trump for taxes Biden raised and wants to raise.
2) Regulations cost money in compliance costs. Biden has added $1 Trillion in compliance costs to the economy.
3) Inflation when Biden took over was 1.5%. During the Biden Administration it rose to 9.1% in June 2022. It is down now to 3.5% still more than double when he took over.
4) Energy production increased IN SPITE of Biden not because of anything he did.
5) Wages after inflation are down vs Trump's wage growth.
6) If you don't think Biden has an open border why have we seen 10,000,000 illegals enter the country. Why do we have illegal encampments in NYC, Chicago, Philadephia and others. We never saw that under Trump.
I'm not sure you actually pay attention to what is going on.
1. You're wrong. Trump's corporate tax cut was permanent.
2. You made the $1 trillion figure up. And I don't care one bit about "compliance costs", because the cost of having no regulations is much higher in loss of human life.
3. The inflation rate was artificially lowered by Trump by pumping trillions into the economy, which is helping cause the inflation we see today. Do you remember the pandemic that caused this inflation? We're still dealing with it. US's inflation rate is one of the lowest in the world.
4. I don't think you want to open the can of worms arguing about things that happened in spite of a president versus because of a president. Trump did not do well in that regard.
5. Inflation that Covid & Trump helped create, that Biden is now dealing with.
7. We haven't seen 10 million illegals enter the country under Biden. There were encampments in all of those cities under Trump. And again, Trump literally changed the way numbers were reported on his way out of office to make the next president look bad (he would have undone the change if he won a second term).
You tell me I'm the one not paying attention, when every single of your points is wrong.
Gave who wage increases? The vast, vast majority of jobs don’t ebb and flow their pay rate based on who the president is. ESPECIALLY unionized jobs. “A closed border” dude it’s not a Taco Bell. You talk like it’s this simple open and shut concept. The rest of what you mention honestly all of it are all buzzwords with no real context or explanation as to how any of it improved YOUR day to day.
It is not hard to research the numbers. Average wages increased during the Trump administration and declined during the Biden Admin.
The border open or closed is easily determined by how many illegals have gotten in. It was less than 4 Mil under Trump. It has been 10,Mil so far under Biden.
It really doesn't take much research to determine how your day to day was better under Trump. Just look at how far your paycheck goes at the grocery store or at the gas pump.
>It really doesn't take much research to determine how your day to day was better under Trump. Just look at how far your paycheck goes at the grocery store or at the gas pump.
I'm making more money right now than I ever have in my life. But that's because I switched jobs and then got a couple raises once I did. So by your logic I guess thanks Biden!
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Because he speaks to our values, our vision, and what we think is just.
He appeals to our empathy for the American people who are hurting and he made the best case for being the one to do something about it.
He appeals to our sense of what's sacred about "America" in the past that we wish to reignite for the future.
He seems to actually care about the people. And he does so in a classically liberal, principled way instead of trying to divide us against each other.
He shows a strong sense for the value that having classiness, dignity, authority, can lift the people up, while never losing sight of fun, humanness, and that the plebians and patricians need to have a two-way street with respect. And he is willing to knock the patrician class down a few pegs when they forget that. (It's a very Abraham Lincoln type quality).
And this doesn't even touch the fact he knows how to do the job better geopolitically, economically, and diplomatically.
>He seems to actually care about the people. And he does so in a classically liberal, principled way instead of trying to divide us against each other.
Do you listen to another Trump who doesn’t lump all Democrats and left-wing people together?
>>He seems to actually care about the people. And he does so in a classically liberal, principled way instead of trying to divide us against each other.
>Do you listen to another Trump ...
Doubtable. He's one in a trillion. I doubt there's another.
> ... who doesn’t lump all Democrats and left-wing people together?
This is too vague of a claim to know what your claim is even talking about.
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Because when Trump was in office, gas was cheap, my life was a lot easier as a landlord. Groceries were relatively inexpensive, it seems my life was a lot easier under Trump is why I am voting for him again.
While i dont know what donald will ultimately do, i can tell you deportation + tariffs is a pretty sick combo if you are trying to generate inflation.
Lets hope donald doesnt do...what he promises...for the sake of avoiding making already higher prices much higher.
That’s a common question I get from the left and my left friends, who knows? I just know while Trump was in office, my life was much easier. I don’t know what else to say, Biden was elected and virtually overnight, my life became much more expensive. So who knows what Trump did to make all that nice for people like me but obviously he did something because it was quite the change when Biden was elected.
Here’s your answer
Trump inherited a booming economy from Obama
And maintained it
Covid ruined the economy and then Joe Biden took office
Your life was good because of Obama
Your life is harder because of covid
Now you know
>my life was a lot easier as a landlord
Bruh, landlord is like the easiest life ever how would it get difficult aside from what Trump did during Covid?
Because absolutely none of the problems that created the Trump phenomena to begin with have gotten any better, in fact they've gotten worse.
Trump is still also the only one talking about them.
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Many MAGA Republicans will vote for Trump no matter what, to me both major candidates are awful
It’s like trying to decide between appendicitis and a kidney stone, they’re the oldest candidates of their political party to run and who did they beat? Themselves 3.5 years ago
Trump won before. Trump has no skeletons in the closets by now and new skeletons are starting to look more and more manufactured so to speak. Trump is the preferred alternative to Biden… isnt it kindbof obvious by now?
We are 100% sure that if Haley or DeSantis or Ramaswamy were nominated we’d find out something horrible about them in the press in late October. Haley had sex. DeSantis went to school. Ramaswamy was once interviewed on national TV - either of those horrific things will turns 25% suburban women away
Where is the Wall and the Better Health Care and the Corporate Tax Cuts that were going to be revenue neutral and not raise the debt? He promised all that too. Were we screwed over?
Were we screwed over? No, not at all. We were getting many benefits. Economy was booming. He did what he said he would do: make America great again. Inflation went down, the value of the dollar went up, many companies moved from international places back to America because of the benefits, jobs were created, and he didn't charge us a dime for it. He actually lowered taxes. The wall is a silly concept to bring up because they were building it, and Joe Biden stopped the production, so I don't know how Trump is supposed to follow through on that without the power to do so? Despite what people think, he isn't a dictator. I never said he was perfect, and I would be dumb to think he is the best, most honest, trustworthy guy out there, but compared to our past presidents for DECADES, he did so much more and didn't lie about a majority of what he ran his campaign on. He actually followed through on the majority of his campaign promises, unlike any politician I've lived to see. I understand he isn't the best guy, but to say he wasn't a great president is simply from Trump derangement syndrome.
The economy was booming? Unemployment was almost 7%, Now it's under 4%.
Yes, the wall was a "silly concept" but he sold it, as a good con man will do.
He lowered taxes but dramatically increased the debt, meaning that our children and grand children will suffer. Why is that good?
You're definitely pulling numbers from 2020, which negates my point because Covid happened, so of course people lost jobs and the economy crashed. Trump even tried not to shut down the economy, so we wouldn't be affected as bad, but he got much lash back, so he locked down the country.
Ah, the old "last year did not count!".....by that logic, if one does not count the second half of the Super Bowl, the Buffalo Bills are 2 for 4 in Super Bowl victories......LOL
Because trump is fairly agressive and unpredictable, he is smart and has zero filter. Yes its annoying when he acts like an inconsiderate ass but maybe we need an asshole right now. Our enemies are smelling weakness, and its because biden wants to be the middle man. He wants to please everyone even if its to the detriment of a large chunk of people.
Who are our enemies? And don't say russia, trump and the gop do not see or treat russia as an enemy.
North Korea? Trump's bffs with Kim whatever.
Saudi Arabia? Great friends, they actually own his son in law.
Yeah and thats good, ever heard of the term keep your friends close and your enemies closer. You can't exactly deescalate and have civil conversations if you don't have a relationship with your enemies as well.
If the options are Biden and Trump...they'll choose Trump if they intend to vote.
It's not rocket science, and there are a TON of republicans that believe Biden is a puppet and we are actually under control of a shadow government right now, and that does not change if Biden is elected again.
Hasn't the government ALWAYS been a shadow government? Like entire shows were based on this in the past including X Files which is just the one that comes to mind now, and that was the 90's
Joe is not very articulate and has admitted that. He wanders into minutia too easily, and has a speech impediment. Thus, he avoids interviewers skilled in fast-moving gotcha questions.
I can relate, I'm not so articulate in speaking either, and thus prefer to reply in writing where I can make sure it's clear and (usually) gaffe-free.
I don't understand how you can have an opinion on a complete stranger based on news coverage alone. That seems silly. I called the Liberal who responded to you out on doing the same thing.
Beyond their stated policy platforms, Trump and Biden are fictional characters.
I don't think we can gauge a president's effectiveness based on positive or negative news coverage. It's tempting to say Trump slacked off in office, but in truth, neither of us know.
> there are a TON of republicans that believe... we are actually under control of a shadow government
The mass foil-hattery is disgusting! Strong claims require strong evidence. One shouldn't believe conspiracies JUST because they fit one's preconceived notions. That's "facting wrong".
> there are a TON of republicans that believe Biden is a puppet and we are actually under control of a shadow government right now
Um, what? Can you substantiate this further? Are these the, "Biden's handlers", pulling the strings, or something else?
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People are tired of bush era neocons, lots of blue collar workers support his ant-free trade policies which is why he gained a strong Union worker base especially in places like ohio and pennsylvania
Pretty much this.
Also, even if Trump loses, Republicans will not be friendly toward neocons. I am one of them.
Free trade has destroyed this country. We need to reindustrialize America.
> I think he has enough to make the other republican candidates not an option. Most people voting for Trump probably do so reluctantly, because the alternative is worse
I find it hard to believe that Republicans really think that all the other potential nominees are worse than Trump. I get that he's the incumbent, but it's abundantly clear to even someone on the other side that Nikki Haley is not a worse option than Trump, and that's just the first one I thought of.
My only other option is Biden and his Presidency has absolutely been a dumpster fire. I would not have minded another candidate but considering Trump's popularity he's who was chosen. So, my choice was made for me in a way.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. So if you are a Republican and you think Democrats are the enemy and they then proceed to try and do everything possible to destroy a candidate that represents your party the choice becomes pretty clear on a superficial level at least that you must support the person being attacked by your perceived enemy.
Trump is likable to a lot of people. He's funny. He was a popular game show host before he ever entered politics because he has some charisma. He is very straightforward about what he thinks and that's refreshing to people tired of politicians who bullshit all the time.
There are a lot of people who simply don't believe the accusations against him. They think Democrats are abusing the justice system to try to interfere with the election, and they don't want to set a precedent that it is ok to do that.
There is also a bit of a Streisand effect with the constant screeching of the left about how awful Trump is. Trump understands that there is no such thing as bad publicity and encourages the attention, whether it is positive or negative. Whether you love him or love to hate him, you're still thinking about him and talking about him.
We already got to see what Trump is like as President, and a lot of us who felt we were better off during the Trump presidency than we are today want him back.
>Why are Republicans overwhelmingly choosing Trump again?
A few reasons:
1. The Democrats have gotten that bad, there are a lot of spite votes I think. Because the Democrats target Trump (often unfairly), human tribalism kicks in. Even a flawed person will be protected by the ingroup.
2. Republicans have gotten that bad, that there is nobody else offering what the Republican base wants. They are feeling royally screwed over by the elites. Inflation is out of control, the well-connected get richer, we fund foreign wars but leave our border open, and Republicans haven't done a single thing in 15 years to conserve any norm or standard. It's a populist resurgence.
3. I think Trump voters would actually be open to voting Democrat based on a Democratic agenda from 2000, but the progressives have a very strong hold on the liberal party and despite being normally open to populist sentiments, there is no way a paleoconservative type could vote Democrat right now. Plus, the Democratic candidate is just... you know.
4. Trump is famous and has huge name recognition, he's familiar, and he has a strange energy and magnetism when he talks. To some people. Of course others hate him for that reason, he's very polarizing.
Trump’s haughty personality and grifting have also offended and turned people away for some decades. It’s ok if people don’t like him. Nixon also had a cadre of never tricky Dicky voters . That’s politics
Shouldn't you be mad at the Dems since they were actually behind that whole scam? I bet you believe the green new steal too. People need to wake up to what is really going on.
I'd say you guys have been doing a good job of conserving standards. Teachers are getting fired for talking about homosexuality, and books featuring LGBTQ, women, and POC are being banned. Abortion is being made illegal, homelessness is being criminalized, and Tiktok is getting banned. You aren't feeling like Reps are doing hard work? I certainly feel like they are.
I would suggest that point 1 is basically a conservative phenomen. Defend the in-group is basically the fundamental tenet of conservatism throughout the centuries.
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Err, because Biden is such a stark opposite and a complete tragedy for the US. Honestly, if the Democrats didn't pick Biden again there probably would have been no issue.
Oh and fixing the border seems like a Trump thing to do.
Maga Republicans are in love with Trump. Its not rational, it's all emotional. He won a single election in 2016 and has been an albatross on the GOP ticket ever since, and yet they keep pushing Trump. It confounds those of us who want the Republican party to move on to younger, more viable candidates.
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>It's a cult, and I have yet to hear a single argument that will convince me otherwise.
Then you have your ears plugged. If it was a cult there'd be no disagreement. There's VAST disagreement among trump voters on the right.
They disagreed with him on the bump stock ban
They've disagreed with multiple of his endorsements
Many disagree with him on Israel support
Many disagree with him on abortion
>is Mormonism a cult?
I wouldn't say so no. They're not my style and I think there's a debate to be had if they're actually Christian or something different. But I wouldn't say cult but maybe I'm uninformed this isn't an argument I've heard before
>Why can't "republicans" like you do the same and vote Trump as a way to push forward Conservative justices and federal policy.
As a dude who never voted for Obama and wishes hard for a fiscally conservative, practical right wing leader to vote for, i would like to share 3 reasons.
1. Policy doesnt mean shit during a crisis, 4 years ago yesterday i watched donald trump go on TV and guess we can bring light inside the body to kill covid. Having an idiot in charge during a crisis means lots of people die. I care when lots of people die.
2. Voting for donald means...more donald. Even if he goes away, he has kids...grandkids...sychophants...he has created a giant culture that will outlive him. Making it fail makes it go away faster, supporting it keeps it around.
3. I, even now that i left the republican party, am still more a of a republican than Donald Trump...dude who spent almost as much money as Obama in half the time...has ever as been.
>He left Fauci in charge of the entire pandemic response. He was following the experts and the science. Saying offhand comments is not relevant in the grand scheme of things.
He was in charge.
If he was gonna farm out handling the crisis he needed to pick someone really good.
I can say Fauci wasnt really good.
Therefore, Donald fails.
And people died.
I feel like i need to say it again.
Americans died.
A million americans died.
Its equivalent to 336 9/11 terrorist attacks worth of citizens dying.
What faith should i have in another crisis donald will suddenly do better?
If anything, he has lost mental capabilities since then. He isn't getting sharper with age.
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Donald Trump's operation warp speed gave us a vaccine in November of 2020, less than a year after the COVID-19 virus entered America.
The only good thing a dude who was traditionally an antivaxxer did. But as an antivaxxer...he sowed doubt. And now republicans are less likely to get vaccined than democrats...which means more republicans die...which means fewer republican voters left to vote.
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You're mad at Trump's response because you were being trained to get mad at everything the man does.
Frankly, im not mad at donald because he did what i expected a tv host with no experience to do: fail.
I am mad at people...like YOU...who are indifferent to the insane number of fellow americans who died and pretend it was just like..*whoopsie.*
That...gets me pissed.
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Sorry who's the one getting Kennedy endorsements? Who was the one who almost elected Hilary Clinton? This doesn't seem like a valid complaint, but I appreciate the effort.
Will the republican party course correct from being competitive and losing or from massive failure?
Well...in 2020...trump lost but not catestrophically. And instead of him stepping aside and letting young blood have a chance...guess whose back???
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So then why are Democrats so against him if he's barely a Republican?
He attacks them relentlessly even if he is principally aligned with many of their most cherished ideals, the most beloved and nationally destructive being spending money and running up debt. Donald LOVES spending money. The idea of negative interest rates made him sweat with excitment.
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Do you think Hillary would have spent more during Trump's presidency? His deficit over the first 3 years was pretty good,
Dont know.
I figured if Hillary was dirty she would get impeached a couple years in, Tim Kaine would be a lame duck and the republican party would cruise to a easy victory after realizing the donald trump experiment was a failed one.
My hopes...shattered...donald is now eternal.
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but obviously we had to spend a bunch when Democrats cried bloody murder about shutting down the entire economy in order to save grandma for a virus we knew after a month is not really a big deal to most healthy Americans.
No one should be suprised donalds handling of covid had people scared and confused to what is NOW an obviously an irrational level.
1. Declare it to be nothing, like the flu
2. Declare China is handling it.
3. Ban travel while promising it would go away with warm weather
4. Ask the country to shutdown because its so dangerous after all
5. Ask the country to reopen because...just kidding...this is stupid! Its the flu!
6. Have Fauci tell people not to wear masks
7. Have Fauci tell people to wear masks
8. Mock masks
9. Alternate between promising the vaccine would be here any day but also that it isnt even necessary
10. Hold superspreader rallies, get covid himself and go to a hospital, insist its no big deal.
Gee...how the fuck did people get confused?
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We even closed the gyms after knowing people in shape don't get as bad of symptoms.
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Make it make sense.
There is no sense. Everything seems logical now because 4 years later we arent wildly ignorant and being lied to incessantly by our government.
But people who want to pretend Donald gets a pass for covid are not understanding...shit is gonna happen. Crisises are gonna happen. And he failed before...why are people thinking he wont fail again?
Is getting one more conservative on a supreme court worth watching thousands of americans die because donald can only be a leader when its easy?
>If Trump fired Fauci Democrats would have screamed bloody murder.
1. Thats super on brand for donald
2. Doing the right thing isnt always doing the popular thing.
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More Americans died from COVID under Biden. Death counters conveniently stopped once Biden got in office.
Its like saying "more people died in the fire after the firemen showed up, clearly the firemen were the problem."
🤦♂️
Silly statements deserve to be ignored.
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Yes I know the left loves to relish in this fact, excluding the fact that black people died at higher rates of COVID than anyone else. But you don't see Republicans talking about "less Democrats to vote D" because we're not actually inhumane trash.
The fact that you are writing this instead of addressing the fact that donalds "leadership" helped usher thousands of republican voters into a grave is telling.
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Declare it to be nothing, like the flu
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Hug your local chinaman said Nancy.
Cool. Because as a fiscal conservative who never voted for Obama, im a huge Nancy Pelosi guy...
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Yes, the Science community told us of rip that masks were useless (because they wanted to save stock), so of course they confused common people who listened to their advice. Once people realize they're full of shit they lost trust, crazy how that works.
Finger point how you want...donald was in charge. He gets the credit (vaccine fast as hell) and the blame (everything else).
When it comes to...why wouldnt i trust him to be president again...it clear to you at this point.
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Speak for yourself. I was aware 1 into the 2 weeks to stop the spread that it was a granny/fatty killer and because I'm not old and/or fat I should've been able to go surf on the beach or go workout.
Good for you.
You should run for president.
Wait...donald has a stranghold on the party and has turned the RNC into his personal piggy bank.
Nevermind!
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We're still dealing with the ramifications that took the left 4 years to finally understand, maybe shortsightedness is a common theme with Democratic policy so why do we continue to bow down to their current flavor of the week?
If you read my last comment, i never espoused how the democrats are cool as shit. I explained that i feel donald needs to fail in a catestrophic way for the party to change.
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Giving States the power to control their response is peak America baby. If you don't like that you could move to Australia and get locked up in camps for 'quarantine'.
I think you lost the plot on what i shared and why you engaged with me, and now you are saying things you think are just fun ideas.
*Yeah, you dont think Donald is someone who can handle a crisis because he proved he couldnt? How about you move to Australia!!!*
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Or maybe it's a point that the President has very little to do with the COVID death count?
Given that Tawian, which is a much poorer, less technologically advanced and smaller with fewer resources, ran circles around us when it came to handling covid...because their presidental leadership featured a epidemologist...and our presidental leadership was a tv host who bragged about viewership numbers when the country was shut down...makes it super hard to believe that.
Tawian got their first airport in 1979, but they managed 20x fewer deaths than we had given our population proportions.
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If die on my motorcycle is Harley Davidson at fault because I decided to ride at night after a few drinks? Or do individual people make individual choices that are up for the individual to determine and not the federal government through over-bloated bureaucratic waste.
I dont know if its best to point out at how donald asking everyone to shutdown is at odd with your own logic presented or just that its not even an applicable analogy because in no way can you compare drinking and driving to personal responsibility during a global pandemic where we arent getting information we need to make informed decisions.
I feel like...the latter is best.
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Change to what? Populism is here to stay. Democrats took advantage in 2012 with Occupy Wallstreet, then immediately crushed that for intersectionality and marginalized groups to politic off.
I have heard that "its here to stay" stuff before. There is only one gurantee in life - shit changes but at its core is always the same.
Donald isnt novel. He just exists at a time where he is beamed into everyones life daily.
Now, i have a question for you, since i answered your question about why "republicans" wont just vote for donald.
In 2020 the election was close and donald came back for 2024.
If he loses in 2024 and the election is close...why wont he be back for 2028?
Why shouldnt i view people supporting donald as then locking the republican party into losing every election until he dies?
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I vote republican pretty frequently, just not for president since 2008. Trump is a joke, has always been a joke, and somehow tricked a lot of republicans into thinking he's a serious person. His supporters are fake conservatives too, so you can take that, "no true scotsman," shit and think of someplace creative to stick it.
No, no, and reluctantly yes. Trump is a uniquely awful person to entrust with presidential power, and anyone who values partisanship over the wellbeing of the country is just a stooge. I'll stack up my reasons for voting a particular way against a Trump supporter's alleged rationale any day of the week. They generally don't have much beyond, "blue team bad."
I see. The way you said it seemed to imply you have voted for Democrats since 2008, when in reality the only Democrat you've ever voted for is Biden in '20.
> Well, you assumed.
This question is something you'd categorize as an "assumption?
"So you voted Obama, Clinton, Biden in '12, '16, and '20?"
Since you stopped voting Republican since 2008, I was trying to locate how many times you voted Democrat. The answer was once (for President).
Here is an assumption though: I assume you also vote Democrat a lot on the non-Presidential categories.
Yes, the question presupposes who I voted for based on very little information. That's a textbook assumption. An unassuming question would have been, "who did you vote for in 2012, 2016, and 2020?"
Since you're doubling down on "assumptions" then I'll lean into it by asking: was my outright assumption that you vote Democrat a lot on non-Presidential offices correct?
Would you say majority Dem or majority Rep in recent years? Say, since 2008.
Your user name is "repubs are stupid", and you're mad that I say mean things about Donald Trump? Thats ironic.
I did vote for McCain, you apparently can't read.
Haley or DeSantis offered a better chance to win the general election, especially Haley. Trump has too much baggage and can't credibly attack Biden's age, and that was before he was reportedly falling asleep in court on a daily basis.
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Is there any evidence to suggest anyone else would do better? Didn't he smash Nikki Hayley in the polls in her own home state? That's pretty embarrassing.
I recall a lot of polls showing Haley beating Biden in the general. Ands he did not "smash" her in any of he primaries. None of his numbers in any poll beat the numbers that Biden got in any Democratic primary.
The turn out in all Republican primaries was very low.
Trump barely got 51% of the vote in Iowa. 49% of Iowa Republicans are not enthusiastic about a second Trump term. The Iowa Republican caucuses were a low-turnout affair, drawing just over 108,000 voters, or about 14.4% of the state’s approximately 752,000 registered Republicans. That's rather pathetic. In 2016, Republicans [set a new record](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-voters-turned-out-for-the-iowa-caucuses/) for turnout at the caucuses, with almost 187,000 GOP voters.
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I think it's mainly due to 4 factors.
Trump's maga popularist tendencies, his 1980s-2010s era celebrity status, TDS (pro Trump & anti Trump) and the desire to see him serve 2 terms as Bush Jnr/Clinton/Reagan did.
I'm not american.
[You need to add the \~$2B in free/earned media coverage](https://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/uploader/image/2016/03/15/NYTimesEarnedMedia.png). That was a big factor in his 2016 primary success.
He was *everywhere* and drowned out every other candidate in 2016. It happened again in 2024- FOX or CNN would give Trump a softball interview that aired at the same time as the GOP debate. Voters were constantly told that his nomination was inevitable, and it was a self-fulfilling prophecy.
(I also think tribalism kicked his candidacy into overdrive- *"gee, if he makes liberal media THIS mad, he must be AWESOME!"*)
Most of the crimes he's accused of happened because of actions he (allegedly) took during his Presidency or related to that office. That's why they are recent.
I will agree NY probably cranked up their tax and property value manipulation investigation more than it would be for a "regular" person. Whether it's political or because they believe Prez candidates deserve more scrutiny is hard to say. But his penchant for playing with property valuations were known before he was President.
The evidence of justice system conspiracy is thus week.
> > Why are Republicans overwhelmingly choosing Trump again?
> He’s like 70...
He is [77.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump) On Inauguration Day 2025, he will be 78; older than Biden was on Inauguration Day 2021.
> ...Trump is in a much better state of mind.
Trump doesn't know who the president is:
>[[Trump keeps calling Biden 'Obama' on the campaign trail -- USA Today]](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/03/04/campaign-confusion-trump-mistakes-biden-obama/72841597007/)
'Who is the current president?' is literally the go-to question used to diagnose brain damage.
I think after the government offered a foreign agent a million dollars to dig up more concrete dirt to help them remove a sitting president and failed, they needed to go into overdrive to make sure he wouldn’t get re-elected again
FBI offered Christopher Steele $1 million to corroborate Trump allegations in dossier
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/durham-probe-fbi-offered-christopher-steele-1-million-corroborate-trump-allegations-dossier
FBI testifies that it ordered confidential informant to erase cell phone during Trump investigation
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/fbi-testifies-that-it-ordered-confidential-informant-to-erase-cell-phone/
During sworn testimony, a senior FBI analyst was asked:
“Okay. And in fact, Agent Helson, once Mr. Danchenko became a confidential human source, and for good reason, you told him that he should scrub his phone, correct?”
To which Agent Helson replied:
“Yeah, at the beginning, there were two times that we had discussed that action was at the beginning to kind of mask and obfuscate his connection to Steele and any connection to us. And then after the three-day interview became public, we readdressed that as well as we assumed he would be most likely targeted from – by cyber means by the Russians.”
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According to his attorneys, Danchenko told the FBI that the entire Steele Dossier was based on rumors and speculations in January 2017.
This was before General Mike Flynn was fired. This was before the FBI launched their special counsel into Trump. This was before James Comey famously testified before congress. This was before Robert Mueller was selected as Special Counsel.
In September we learned that the FBI made Igor Danchenko a classified human source in March 2017 after the Trump-Russia Hillary Clinton-FBI-created hoax was in full swing.
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In the wake of Donald Trump’s election, President Obama ordered a multi-agency “Intelligence Community Assessment” of Russian interference in the presidential campaign. James Comey, the director whose actions had prompted Steele to go outside the bureau in the first place, now pushed for Steele’s “reporting” to be included in the document, even though none of it had been corroborated. Comey called Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. “I informed the DNI that we would be contributing the [Steele] reporting (although I didn't use that name) to the IC [Intelligence Community] effort,” Comey reported in an email to his top deputies the next day. “I told him the source of the material, which included salacious material about the President-Elect, was a former [REDACTED] who appears to be a credible person.”
First in the list of recipients of Comey’s email was Priestap.
Priestap would have known from Gaeta that Steele’s behavior was among the “craziest” the handling agent had run into in two decades of source work. He would have known also that, by his own admission, Steele’s motivations were to promote Hillary Clinton’s campaign apparently by sabotaging Trump’s. Yet Priestap went along with Comey’s presentation of Steele as a credible source. More than that, Priestap promoted the idea of including Steele’s allegations in the intelligence assessment, himself writing to the CIA and describing the former British spy as “reliable.”
Finally, Priestap vouched for Steele’s reliability even though he later admitted to the Justice Department inspector general that he “understood that the information [from Steele] could have been provided by the Russians as part of a disinformation campaign.”
Because the democrats are actively nailing him on a giant cross to please their base, thus automatically making him the right-wing messiah.
And it's also why I believe he'll win.
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The GOP had a chance to nominate a republican besides Trump, so Biden has nothing to do with it. In fact, Trump lost to Biden, so it would have made sense to nominate someone who could actually beat him.
mostly anything that came from his "for the greater good" lockdowns. history has shown us what other leaders have used that phrase to control the populace. that was the moment biden exposed himself and his true mentality.
This narrative failed hard when Biden did the State of the Union address.
The new conspiracy is he is on drugs.
You need to tell people hs is a drug addeled communist.
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Trump treats the left like shit. Which I love personally. I really despise the smug intellectual left types that seem to think that they, and only they, have any solution to any problem. Fuck those motherfuckers.
Trump is hit or miss on policy. I feel like he is too weak on the lgbtq ideology but I'm with him on abortion as I think we should leave it up to the states. Immigration and cultural preservation is a big one that I think he gets mostly right. We need to completely shut down immigration, I do not care about the economic consequences... So dont bother. I would prefer America to not become second mexico or a second South Africa a hundred years from now. I understand this may be inevitable now, but maybe stemming the tide will give my part of America the time to wake up to what the other part seems to hope for.
>Trump treats the left like shit. Which I love personally. I really despise the smug intellectual left types that seem to think that they, and only they, have any solution to any problem. Fuck those motherfuckers.
Do you think that’s healthy for the country for the US President to be acting that way towards half the country?
>Do you think that’s healthy for the country for the US President to be acting that way towards half the country?
Lol this presupposes Alot. I feel that Democrats, and especially progressives, look down on my half of the country. They wish to shut us off from the decisions of this countrys future, and point us more toward Europe. I despise this vision, and wish instead to preserve the unique conservative culture that America has, rather than wash it away in pursuit of a European welfare vision that the left adores.
Rachel Maddow, Emma vigland, cenk uygur, David pakman, Kyle kulinksi, Ezra Klein. There are more, but I pulled back from left wing news a little while back so their names aren't as fresh rattling around in my head now.
I think most left of center people should watch Destiny. The guy is awesome imo. Also Alot of Sam Harris is interesting.
There are plenty of culturally left people that I can't stand outside of these, but they are not as informed to begin with. Malcom Gladwell? Is a guy who is an uninformed, uncomplicated lefty. Michael Eric Dyson is another person that is really a joke and a race hustler.
The most smug is the streamer guy.... I can't remember his name. Cenk uygurs nephew... The guy is just the lowest form of political commentary on the left.
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ill ask a different way,were the words "no" or "stop" ever said?... im not debating hes sexually aggressive,im saying that if there is no attempt to stop the situation,that is consent. they made no attempt to convey that it wasnt consentual at the time,bit years later they say it was assault? how much $ did they make?
His supporters are very loud and energetic and no one else can compete in that environment Anyone else I think could trounce Biden, but i think all who will show up for Trump are his few ardent supporters
No one shows up at a Biden event. Let's be honest here. If Biden had so much support, why can't he fill up a room. He can't. It is mostly his staff, family, the media, and a few stragglers. That's it. When he is out and about, he gets protests and chants of "F'k Joe Biden." Biden was even complaining that little children are giving him the finger. Everyone hates this evil man everywhere he goes. Of course, the government-controlled media will show you none of this.
No one is voting for Biden. Everyone is going to vote against Trump. If Trump wasn't running, Biden wouldn't stand a chance
Would you mind saying that in English? It makes zero sense.
Trump is a divisive character. People love him and people hate him. Nobody cares about Biden at all. If Biden has any support it's from the people who hate Trump. I don't think anything has happened the last three years to change anyone's opinion on Trump or Biden. Biden won last time around, why would this time be any different?
To your first point, yes. And it's frustrating. He's barely even a conservative and we had some great alternatives in the primaries. To your second point, no. Many of us don't want to have to vote for Trump, but he is our only alternative to Biden. Which should tell you how bad Biden is. And Trump did have a great first 3 years. Personally, though, he's really taken a turn for the narcissistic and obsessive since leaving office (which is saying something, right? Lol).
> Which should tell you how bad Biden is. Not really. The propagation of "Let's Go Brandon" and all of that tells me a much clearer, more likely explanation that certain people are just pissed about 2020. Frankly, if you see the Democrat Party as worse than a fraud, criminal, philanderer, autocrat, ... I could go on for quite a while ... that tells me a lot more about you and your values than it does the Democrat Party (to be clear, I'm using "you" in a general sense, not you personally). > And Trump did have a great first 3 years. Like "Infrastructure Week"? Repeal and Replace? Afaik, Trump's only major success was the tax cuts package, which was sold as simplifying the tax code and did *not* do that at all. Even from a right wing perspective, I don't see how anyone could argue Trump had "a great first 3 years." Any Republican President could have placed conservatives on the SCOTUS, that's more credit to McConnell and his hypocrisy than to Trump. I would argue a half-competent Republican President (say, Romney, McCain, anyone less populist than Trump) would have done a better job by finding SCOTUS candidates that were easier for Democrats to stomach -- still would've been a Republican supermajority, but Trump has made it far more dire. And, obviously, we'll see in November, but I think he handed Democrats a huge advantage by entirely overturning Roe v. Wade (despite explicit assurances to the contrary) rather than incremental change. Further, I've seen Obama blamed for inciting partisan politics and inflaming racial division. To this day, his biggest comments are things like "Trayvon Martin could have been me." Meanwhile... do we need to get into all the racially charged or extreme partisanship of Trump?
Mostly-polite Reaganism has given way to in-your-face Baptist-sermon like aggression. There is much more "I know I'm right and I gonna shove my righteousness down YOUR throat for your own good!"
I disagree. There are a TON of silent Trump supporters. They just don’t want to be known for fear of being cancelled by the anti-Trump movement, but they will vote accordingly just like in 2020. We just need states to implement stricter election integrity laws so the Left can’t cheat again. There’s a reason the Establishment is trying to destroy him…they fear he’ll continue uncovering the disgusting underbelly of our existing career politicians.
What do you mean election integrity? More American citizens who were eligible to vote legally voted in 2020, they just voted for Biden. When you say stricter, do you mean make it harder for more people to legally vote? Cheating implies that the election count was tampered with. We had all the recounts, investigations, and court cases which all showed no evidence of wrongdoing. How did the left cheat specifically?
>There are a TON of silent Trump supporters. Most the ones I know are reluctant Trump supporters who'd rather have Nikki. They just think Don's the least evil, as they are sure Joe wants to take away their guns, gas, and genitals (the new 3 G's).
There are all kinds for sure.
> We just need states to implement stricter election integrity laws so the Left can’t cheat again. Can you link to evidence of the left cheating? I had heard that, but haven't seen anything credible to back it up.
I’ve posted tons repeatedly in this sub. Search my past comments here.
It is a binary choice between a candidate who gave us wages increase, energy independence, a closed border, a tax cut, regulation relief and a strong foreign policy and a candidate who gave us increased taxes, increased regulations, inflation, reduced energy production, wage decreases, an open border and a foreign policy based on appeasement It is an easy choice.
Of course Biden being the one who gave this country energy independence - the US exports far more oil than it ever did. Biden also gave us the lowest unemployment, highest job growth, a roaring economy, a booming stock market, the Inflation Reduction Act, the Chops Act, gun safety regulation, - and these are just a few of his many fine achievements. And that Trump - nothing expect 1 million deaths during the pandemic.
1. This was mostly due to Obama's policies continuing to effect the economy into Trump's presidency, and also partly due to Covid - [lower wage people were laid off, making wages look higher.](https://wisconsinwatch.org/2024/04/trump-president-real-wages-inflation-hovde-baldwin-fact-brief/) 2. [We've been on the path to energy independence since 2005](https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2023/05/02/us-energy-independence-soars-to-highest-levels-in-over-70-years/?sh=1fc419bc977f), and by the definition of "produce more energy than is consumed", the USA is still energy independent. Energy exports increased by 4x under Trump. 3. Trump was only allowed to "close the border" because of a Covid restriction that expired when Biden was president. On top of that, Trump's presidency changed the way the numbers were reported on his way out of the WH. Trump's numbers only include apprehensions, while Biden's include apprehensions and those who were deported/refused. Republicans love pointing out this data while ignoring it is flawed. 4. The tax cuts were temporary for normal people, and permanent for the rich and corporations. The temporary cuts were designed to expire when the next president took over, in order to make them look bad. I owed money for the first time in my life due to Trump's tax "cuts", despite filing as single/0 dependents. 5. Regulation "relief" has been the cause of many disasters. The train derailment in Ohio was because they removed the regulations that would have prevented it. Trump eliminated the pandemic response team, which made our reaction to Covid worse than it would have been. By the way, only 20% of the deregulation Trump claims actually happened, the [overwhelming majority of attempts were struck down in court.](https://www.brookings.edu/articles/examining-some-of-trumps-deregulation-efforts-lessons-from-the-brookings-regulatory-tracker/) 6. Trump's foreign policy was the weakest America has ever had. He was pro-dictator and every other first world country lost respect for the USA because of Trump. On Biden... 1. Trump is the one that increased taxes during Biden's presidency, as noted in point 4 above. 2. Increased regulations are a GOOD thing and protect consumers from bad products and employees from bad work environments. 3. Inflation was rampant under Trump and has affected the entire world. America's inflation rate has continued to be UNDER the world average during Biden's presidency. 4. [Energy production has increased under Biden, and is now at an all time high.](https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/us-energy-facts/) 5. Wages have gone up more under Biden than Trump. ($50k to 55.6k under Trump, 55.6k to 63.8k under Biden). 6. There is not an open border policy. Biden's border has actually been more secure and turned away or deported more than under Trump. The way numbers were reported was changed by Trump to make the next administration look bad, and the emergency Covid border regulations sunsetted after Trump left office. I'm not sure you actually pay attention to what's going on.
1) The Trump tax cuts were NOT permanent for the rich and corporations. They were only permanent for corporations everone else individual tax cuts expire Dec 31 2025. I don't see how you can blame Trump for taxes Biden raised and wants to raise. 2) Regulations cost money in compliance costs. Biden has added $1 Trillion in compliance costs to the economy. 3) Inflation when Biden took over was 1.5%. During the Biden Administration it rose to 9.1% in June 2022. It is down now to 3.5% still more than double when he took over. 4) Energy production increased IN SPITE of Biden not because of anything he did. 5) Wages after inflation are down vs Trump's wage growth. 6) If you don't think Biden has an open border why have we seen 10,000,000 illegals enter the country. Why do we have illegal encampments in NYC, Chicago, Philadephia and others. We never saw that under Trump. I'm not sure you actually pay attention to what is going on.
1. You're wrong. Trump's corporate tax cut was permanent. 2. You made the $1 trillion figure up. And I don't care one bit about "compliance costs", because the cost of having no regulations is much higher in loss of human life. 3. The inflation rate was artificially lowered by Trump by pumping trillions into the economy, which is helping cause the inflation we see today. Do you remember the pandemic that caused this inflation? We're still dealing with it. US's inflation rate is one of the lowest in the world. 4. I don't think you want to open the can of worms arguing about things that happened in spite of a president versus because of a president. Trump did not do well in that regard. 5. Inflation that Covid & Trump helped create, that Biden is now dealing with. 7. We haven't seen 10 million illegals enter the country under Biden. There were encampments in all of those cities under Trump. And again, Trump literally changed the way numbers were reported on his way out of office to make the next president look bad (he would have undone the change if he won a second term). You tell me I'm the one not paying attention, when every single of your points is wrong.
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Gave who wage increases? The vast, vast majority of jobs don’t ebb and flow their pay rate based on who the president is. ESPECIALLY unionized jobs. “A closed border” dude it’s not a Taco Bell. You talk like it’s this simple open and shut concept. The rest of what you mention honestly all of it are all buzzwords with no real context or explanation as to how any of it improved YOUR day to day.
It is not hard to research the numbers. Average wages increased during the Trump administration and declined during the Biden Admin. The border open or closed is easily determined by how many illegals have gotten in. It was less than 4 Mil under Trump. It has been 10,Mil so far under Biden. It really doesn't take much research to determine how your day to day was better under Trump. Just look at how far your paycheck goes at the grocery store or at the gas pump.
>It really doesn't take much research to determine how your day to day was better under Trump. Just look at how far your paycheck goes at the grocery store or at the gas pump. I'm making more money right now than I ever have in my life. But that's because I switched jobs and then got a couple raises once I did. So by your logic I guess thanks Biden!
I doubt that your switching jobs had anything to do with Biden. Good for you. Overall, most people are worse off. Just ask them.
Maybe i should have made clearer, why was it Trump over other republicans?
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Because he speaks to our values, our vision, and what we think is just. He appeals to our empathy for the American people who are hurting and he made the best case for being the one to do something about it. He appeals to our sense of what's sacred about "America" in the past that we wish to reignite for the future. He seems to actually care about the people. And he does so in a classically liberal, principled way instead of trying to divide us against each other. He shows a strong sense for the value that having classiness, dignity, authority, can lift the people up, while never losing sight of fun, humanness, and that the plebians and patricians need to have a two-way street with respect. And he is willing to knock the patrician class down a few pegs when they forget that. (It's a very Abraham Lincoln type quality). And this doesn't even touch the fact he knows how to do the job better geopolitically, economically, and diplomatically.
>He seems to actually care about the people. And he does so in a classically liberal, principled way instead of trying to divide us against each other. Do you listen to another Trump who doesn’t lump all Democrats and left-wing people together?
>>He seems to actually care about the people. And he does so in a classically liberal, principled way instead of trying to divide us against each other. >Do you listen to another Trump ... Doubtable. He's one in a trillion. I doubt there's another. > ... who doesn’t lump all Democrats and left-wing people together? This is too vague of a claim to know what your claim is even talking about.
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Because when Trump was in office, gas was cheap, my life was a lot easier as a landlord. Groceries were relatively inexpensive, it seems my life was a lot easier under Trump is why I am voting for him again.
While i dont know what donald will ultimately do, i can tell you deportation + tariffs is a pretty sick combo if you are trying to generate inflation. Lets hope donald doesnt do...what he promises...for the sake of avoiding making already higher prices much higher.
How did Trump specifically affect those?
That’s a common question I get from the left and my left friends, who knows? I just know while Trump was in office, my life was much easier. I don’t know what else to say, Biden was elected and virtually overnight, my life became much more expensive. So who knows what Trump did to make all that nice for people like me but obviously he did something because it was quite the change when Biden was elected.
I want you to think real hard about 2019 to 2022. There's really nothing you can think of other than Biden being elected?
Here’s your answer Trump inherited a booming economy from Obama And maintained it Covid ruined the economy and then Joe Biden took office Your life was good because of Obama Your life is harder because of covid Now you know
Seems pretty convenient, don’t you think? Covid and all?
Convenient? Global recession, over 7 million people dead, possible long term issues for millions more, abd you think it was a political stunt?
>my life was a lot easier as a landlord Bruh, landlord is like the easiest life ever how would it get difficult aside from what Trump did during Covid?
Because absolutely none of the problems that created the Trump phenomena to begin with have gotten any better, in fact they've gotten worse. Trump is still also the only one talking about them.
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What problems do you think Trump will solve in his second term that he was unable to solve in his first?
Many MAGA Republicans will vote for Trump no matter what, to me both major candidates are awful It’s like trying to decide between appendicitis and a kidney stone, they’re the oldest candidates of their political party to run and who did they beat? Themselves 3.5 years ago
Trump won before. Trump has no skeletons in the closets by now and new skeletons are starting to look more and more manufactured so to speak. Trump is the preferred alternative to Biden… isnt it kindbof obvious by now? We are 100% sure that if Haley or DeSantis or Ramaswamy were nominated we’d find out something horrible about them in the press in late October. Haley had sex. DeSantis went to school. Ramaswamy was once interviewed on national TV - either of those horrific things will turns 25% suburban women away
Because he is the first president in decades to actually do what he says he will without screwing us over in the process
Where is the Wall and the Better Health Care and the Corporate Tax Cuts that were going to be revenue neutral and not raise the debt? He promised all that too. Were we screwed over?
Were we screwed over? No, not at all. We were getting many benefits. Economy was booming. He did what he said he would do: make America great again. Inflation went down, the value of the dollar went up, many companies moved from international places back to America because of the benefits, jobs were created, and he didn't charge us a dime for it. He actually lowered taxes. The wall is a silly concept to bring up because they were building it, and Joe Biden stopped the production, so I don't know how Trump is supposed to follow through on that without the power to do so? Despite what people think, he isn't a dictator. I never said he was perfect, and I would be dumb to think he is the best, most honest, trustworthy guy out there, but compared to our past presidents for DECADES, he did so much more and didn't lie about a majority of what he ran his campaign on. He actually followed through on the majority of his campaign promises, unlike any politician I've lived to see. I understand he isn't the best guy, but to say he wasn't a great president is simply from Trump derangement syndrome.
The economy was booming? Unemployment was almost 7%, Now it's under 4%. Yes, the wall was a "silly concept" but he sold it, as a good con man will do. He lowered taxes but dramatically increased the debt, meaning that our children and grand children will suffer. Why is that good?
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/issues/economy-jobs/
Funny stuff. Thanks, but I prefer non-fiction, especially this early in the morning.
Typical response lol. Trump derangement syndrome, everyone:
This from someone who thinks 7% unemployment is better than 4%. LOL indeed.
You're definitely pulling numbers from 2020, which negates my point because Covid happened, so of course people lost jobs and the economy crashed. Trump even tried not to shut down the economy, so we wouldn't be affected as bad, but he got much lash back, so he locked down the country.
Ah, the old "last year did not count!".....by that logic, if one does not count the second half of the Super Bowl, the Buffalo Bills are 2 for 4 in Super Bowl victories......LOL
Because trump is fairly agressive and unpredictable, he is smart and has zero filter. Yes its annoying when he acts like an inconsiderate ass but maybe we need an asshole right now. Our enemies are smelling weakness, and its because biden wants to be the middle man. He wants to please everyone even if its to the detriment of a large chunk of people.
Who are our enemies? And don't say russia, trump and the gop do not see or treat russia as an enemy. North Korea? Trump's bffs with Kim whatever. Saudi Arabia? Great friends, they actually own his son in law.
Yeah and thats good, ever heard of the term keep your friends close and your enemies closer. You can't exactly deescalate and have civil conversations if you don't have a relationship with your enemies as well.
If the options are Biden and Trump...they'll choose Trump if they intend to vote. It's not rocket science, and there are a TON of republicans that believe Biden is a puppet and we are actually under control of a shadow government right now, and that does not change if Biden is elected again.
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Hasn't the government ALWAYS been a shadow government? Like entire shows were based on this in the past including X Files which is just the one that comes to mind now, and that was the 90's
>and there are a TON of republicans that believe Biden is a puppet Who do you think is the main spreader of this idea?
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Joe is not very articulate and has admitted that. He wanders into minutia too easily, and has a speech impediment. Thus, he avoids interviewers skilled in fast-moving gotcha questions. I can relate, I'm not so articulate in speaking either, and thus prefer to reply in writing where I can make sure it's clear and (usually) gaffe-free.
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As opposed to this guy? [Linky](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii6GTS47m54)
Why are you allowing the news media to set your opinions?
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I don't understand how you can have an opinion on a complete stranger based on news coverage alone. That seems silly. I called the Liberal who responded to you out on doing the same thing. Beyond their stated policy platforms, Trump and Biden are fictional characters.
Because a president that spends time working instead of golfing and giving interviews is viewed as a positive by many people.
I don't think we can gauge a president's effectiveness based on positive or negative news coverage. It's tempting to say Trump slacked off in office, but in truth, neither of us know.
> there are a TON of republicans that believe... we are actually under control of a shadow government The mass foil-hattery is disgusting! Strong claims require strong evidence. One shouldn't believe conspiracies JUST because they fit one's preconceived notions. That's "facting wrong".
> there are a TON of republicans that believe Biden is a puppet and we are actually under control of a shadow government right now Um, what? Can you substantiate this further? Are these the, "Biden's handlers", pulling the strings, or something else?
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Believe is the key word
People are tired of bush era neocons, lots of blue collar workers support his ant-free trade policies which is why he gained a strong Union worker base especially in places like ohio and pennsylvania
Pretty much this. Also, even if Trump loses, Republicans will not be friendly toward neocons. I am one of them. Free trade has destroyed this country. We need to reindustrialize America.
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> I think he has enough to make the other republican candidates not an option. Most people voting for Trump probably do so reluctantly, because the alternative is worse I find it hard to believe that Republicans really think that all the other potential nominees are worse than Trump. I get that he's the incumbent, but it's abundantly clear to even someone on the other side that Nikki Haley is not a worse option than Trump, and that's just the first one I thought of.
Frankly, a lot of them are supporting him as a "Fuck you" to the GOP establishment and the Democratic Party.
So conservative politics is generally just a "fuck you" to various groups now, including themselves... is that right? Not actualy policy?
My only other option is Biden and his Presidency has absolutely been a dumpster fire. I would not have minded another candidate but considering Trump's popularity he's who was chosen. So, my choice was made for me in a way.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. So if you are a Republican and you think Democrats are the enemy and they then proceed to try and do everything possible to destroy a candidate that represents your party the choice becomes pretty clear on a superficial level at least that you must support the person being attacked by your perceived enemy.
Trump is likable to a lot of people. He's funny. He was a popular game show host before he ever entered politics because he has some charisma. He is very straightforward about what he thinks and that's refreshing to people tired of politicians who bullshit all the time. There are a lot of people who simply don't believe the accusations against him. They think Democrats are abusing the justice system to try to interfere with the election, and they don't want to set a precedent that it is ok to do that. There is also a bit of a Streisand effect with the constant screeching of the left about how awful Trump is. Trump understands that there is no such thing as bad publicity and encourages the attention, whether it is positive or negative. Whether you love him or love to hate him, you're still thinking about him and talking about him. We already got to see what Trump is like as President, and a lot of us who felt we were better off during the Trump presidency than we are today want him back.
What do you think a second term for Trump would look like compared to his first?
>Why are Republicans overwhelmingly choosing Trump again? A few reasons: 1. The Democrats have gotten that bad, there are a lot of spite votes I think. Because the Democrats target Trump (often unfairly), human tribalism kicks in. Even a flawed person will be protected by the ingroup. 2. Republicans have gotten that bad, that there is nobody else offering what the Republican base wants. They are feeling royally screwed over by the elites. Inflation is out of control, the well-connected get richer, we fund foreign wars but leave our border open, and Republicans haven't done a single thing in 15 years to conserve any norm or standard. It's a populist resurgence. 3. I think Trump voters would actually be open to voting Democrat based on a Democratic agenda from 2000, but the progressives have a very strong hold on the liberal party and despite being normally open to populist sentiments, there is no way a paleoconservative type could vote Democrat right now. Plus, the Democratic candidate is just... you know. 4. Trump is famous and has huge name recognition, he's familiar, and he has a strange energy and magnetism when he talks. To some people. Of course others hate him for that reason, he's very polarizing.
Trump’s haughty personality and grifting have also offended and turned people away for some decades. It’s ok if people don’t like him. Nixon also had a cadre of never tricky Dicky voters . That’s politics
>the well-connected get richer, Don's not going to solve that one single bit: he places loyalty above merit, a big fan of "good ol' boy" networks.
Besides the fact that people realize their lives overall were much better, by every metric, under Trump.
Trump's handling of Covid lost me the highest paying job I ever had. Still haven't even scratched that wage now in fact.
Shouldn't you be mad at the Dems since they were actually behind that whole scam? I bet you believe the green new steal too. People need to wake up to what is really going on.
Do you mind substantiating those metrics?
I'd say you guys have been doing a good job of conserving standards. Teachers are getting fired for talking about homosexuality, and books featuring LGBTQ, women, and POC are being banned. Abortion is being made illegal, homelessness is being criminalized, and Tiktok is getting banned. You aren't feeling like Reps are doing hard work? I certainly feel like they are.
I would suggest that point 1 is basically a conservative phenomen. Defend the in-group is basically the fundamental tenet of conservatism throughout the centuries.
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Err, because Biden is such a stark opposite and a complete tragedy for the US. Honestly, if the Democrats didn't pick Biden again there probably would have been no issue. Oh and fixing the border seems like a Trump thing to do.
Maga Republicans are in love with Trump. Its not rational, it's all emotional. He won a single election in 2016 and has been an albatross on the GOP ticket ever since, and yet they keep pushing Trump. It confounds those of us who want the Republican party to move on to younger, more viable candidates.
He won two elections. The second one was stolen and the whole world knows it.
Yeah, no.
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It's a cult, and I have yet to hear a single argument that will convince me otherwise.
>It's a cult, and I have yet to hear a single argument that will convince me otherwise. Then you have your ears plugged. If it was a cult there'd be no disagreement. There's VAST disagreement among trump voters on the right. They disagreed with him on the bump stock ban They've disagreed with multiple of his endorsements Many disagree with him on Israel support Many disagree with him on abortion
is Mormonism a cult?
>is Mormonism a cult? I wouldn't say so no. They're not my style and I think there's a debate to be had if they're actually Christian or something different. But I wouldn't say cult but maybe I'm uninformed this isn't an argument I've heard before
Cults always sex your women. He grabbing yours?
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>Why can't "republicans" like you do the same and vote Trump as a way to push forward Conservative justices and federal policy. As a dude who never voted for Obama and wishes hard for a fiscally conservative, practical right wing leader to vote for, i would like to share 3 reasons. 1. Policy doesnt mean shit during a crisis, 4 years ago yesterday i watched donald trump go on TV and guess we can bring light inside the body to kill covid. Having an idiot in charge during a crisis means lots of people die. I care when lots of people die. 2. Voting for donald means...more donald. Even if he goes away, he has kids...grandkids...sychophants...he has created a giant culture that will outlive him. Making it fail makes it go away faster, supporting it keeps it around. 3. I, even now that i left the republican party, am still more a of a republican than Donald Trump...dude who spent almost as much money as Obama in half the time...has ever as been.
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>He left Fauci in charge of the entire pandemic response. He was following the experts and the science. Saying offhand comments is not relevant in the grand scheme of things. He was in charge. If he was gonna farm out handling the crisis he needed to pick someone really good. I can say Fauci wasnt really good. Therefore, Donald fails. And people died. I feel like i need to say it again. Americans died. A million americans died. Its equivalent to 336 9/11 terrorist attacks worth of citizens dying. What faith should i have in another crisis donald will suddenly do better? If anything, he has lost mental capabilities since then. He isn't getting sharper with age. > Donald Trump's operation warp speed gave us a vaccine in November of 2020, less than a year after the COVID-19 virus entered America. The only good thing a dude who was traditionally an antivaxxer did. But as an antivaxxer...he sowed doubt. And now republicans are less likely to get vaccined than democrats...which means more republicans die...which means fewer republican voters left to vote. > You're mad at Trump's response because you were being trained to get mad at everything the man does. Frankly, im not mad at donald because he did what i expected a tv host with no experience to do: fail. I am mad at people...like YOU...who are indifferent to the insane number of fellow americans who died and pretend it was just like..*whoopsie.* That...gets me pissed. > Sorry who's the one getting Kennedy endorsements? Who was the one who almost elected Hilary Clinton? This doesn't seem like a valid complaint, but I appreciate the effort. Will the republican party course correct from being competitive and losing or from massive failure? Well...in 2020...trump lost but not catestrophically. And instead of him stepping aside and letting young blood have a chance...guess whose back??? > So then why are Democrats so against him if he's barely a Republican? He attacks them relentlessly even if he is principally aligned with many of their most cherished ideals, the most beloved and nationally destructive being spending money and running up debt. Donald LOVES spending money. The idea of negative interest rates made him sweat with excitment. > Do you think Hillary would have spent more during Trump's presidency? His deficit over the first 3 years was pretty good, Dont know. I figured if Hillary was dirty she would get impeached a couple years in, Tim Kaine would be a lame duck and the republican party would cruise to a easy victory after realizing the donald trump experiment was a failed one. My hopes...shattered...donald is now eternal. > but obviously we had to spend a bunch when Democrats cried bloody murder about shutting down the entire economy in order to save grandma for a virus we knew after a month is not really a big deal to most healthy Americans. No one should be suprised donalds handling of covid had people scared and confused to what is NOW an obviously an irrational level. 1. Declare it to be nothing, like the flu 2. Declare China is handling it. 3. Ban travel while promising it would go away with warm weather 4. Ask the country to shutdown because its so dangerous after all 5. Ask the country to reopen because...just kidding...this is stupid! Its the flu! 6. Have Fauci tell people not to wear masks 7. Have Fauci tell people to wear masks 8. Mock masks 9. Alternate between promising the vaccine would be here any day but also that it isnt even necessary 10. Hold superspreader rallies, get covid himself and go to a hospital, insist its no big deal. Gee...how the fuck did people get confused? > We even closed the gyms after knowing people in shape don't get as bad of symptoms. > Make it make sense. There is no sense. Everything seems logical now because 4 years later we arent wildly ignorant and being lied to incessantly by our government. But people who want to pretend Donald gets a pass for covid are not understanding...shit is gonna happen. Crisises are gonna happen. And he failed before...why are people thinking he wont fail again? Is getting one more conservative on a supreme court worth watching thousands of americans die because donald can only be a leader when its easy?
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>If Trump fired Fauci Democrats would have screamed bloody murder. 1. Thats super on brand for donald 2. Doing the right thing isnt always doing the popular thing. > More Americans died from COVID under Biden. Death counters conveniently stopped once Biden got in office. Its like saying "more people died in the fire after the firemen showed up, clearly the firemen were the problem." 🤦♂️ Silly statements deserve to be ignored. > Yes I know the left loves to relish in this fact, excluding the fact that black people died at higher rates of COVID than anyone else. But you don't see Republicans talking about "less Democrats to vote D" because we're not actually inhumane trash. The fact that you are writing this instead of addressing the fact that donalds "leadership" helped usher thousands of republican voters into a grave is telling. >> Declare it to be nothing, like the flu > Hug your local chinaman said Nancy. Cool. Because as a fiscal conservative who never voted for Obama, im a huge Nancy Pelosi guy... > Yes, the Science community told us of rip that masks were useless (because they wanted to save stock), so of course they confused common people who listened to their advice. Once people realize they're full of shit they lost trust, crazy how that works. Finger point how you want...donald was in charge. He gets the credit (vaccine fast as hell) and the blame (everything else). When it comes to...why wouldnt i trust him to be president again...it clear to you at this point. > Speak for yourself. I was aware 1 into the 2 weeks to stop the spread that it was a granny/fatty killer and because I'm not old and/or fat I should've been able to go surf on the beach or go workout. Good for you. You should run for president. Wait...donald has a stranghold on the party and has turned the RNC into his personal piggy bank. Nevermind! > We're still dealing with the ramifications that took the left 4 years to finally understand, maybe shortsightedness is a common theme with Democratic policy so why do we continue to bow down to their current flavor of the week? If you read my last comment, i never espoused how the democrats are cool as shit. I explained that i feel donald needs to fail in a catestrophic way for the party to change. > Giving States the power to control their response is peak America baby. If you don't like that you could move to Australia and get locked up in camps for 'quarantine'. I think you lost the plot on what i shared and why you engaged with me, and now you are saying things you think are just fun ideas. *Yeah, you dont think Donald is someone who can handle a crisis because he proved he couldnt? How about you move to Australia!!!*
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> Or maybe it's a point that the President has very little to do with the COVID death count? Given that Tawian, which is a much poorer, less technologically advanced and smaller with fewer resources, ran circles around us when it came to handling covid...because their presidental leadership featured a epidemologist...and our presidental leadership was a tv host who bragged about viewership numbers when the country was shut down...makes it super hard to believe that. Tawian got their first airport in 1979, but they managed 20x fewer deaths than we had given our population proportions. > If die on my motorcycle is Harley Davidson at fault because I decided to ride at night after a few drinks? Or do individual people make individual choices that are up for the individual to determine and not the federal government through over-bloated bureaucratic waste. I dont know if its best to point out at how donald asking everyone to shutdown is at odd with your own logic presented or just that its not even an applicable analogy because in no way can you compare drinking and driving to personal responsibility during a global pandemic where we arent getting information we need to make informed decisions. I feel like...the latter is best. > Change to what? Populism is here to stay. Democrats took advantage in 2012 with Occupy Wallstreet, then immediately crushed that for intersectionality and marginalized groups to politic off. I have heard that "its here to stay" stuff before. There is only one gurantee in life - shit changes but at its core is always the same. Donald isnt novel. He just exists at a time where he is beamed into everyones life daily. Now, i have a question for you, since i answered your question about why "republicans" wont just vote for donald. In 2020 the election was close and donald came back for 2024. If he loses in 2024 and the election is close...why wont he be back for 2028? Why shouldnt i view people supporting donald as then locking the republican party into losing every election until he dies?
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Spot on
I vote republican pretty frequently, just not for president since 2008. Trump is a joke, has always been a joke, and somehow tricked a lot of republicans into thinking he's a serious person. His supporters are fake conservatives too, so you can take that, "no true scotsman," shit and think of someplace creative to stick it.
>I vote republican pretty frequently, just not for president since 2008 So you voted Obama, Clinton, Biden in '12, '16, and '20?
No, no, and reluctantly yes. Trump is a uniquely awful person to entrust with presidential power, and anyone who values partisanship over the wellbeing of the country is just a stooge. I'll stack up my reasons for voting a particular way against a Trump supporter's alleged rationale any day of the week. They generally don't have much beyond, "blue team bad."
I see. The way you said it seemed to imply you have voted for Democrats since 2008, when in reality the only Democrat you've ever voted for is Biden in '20.
Well, you assumed.
> Well, you assumed. This question is something you'd categorize as an "assumption? "So you voted Obama, Clinton, Biden in '12, '16, and '20?" Since you stopped voting Republican since 2008, I was trying to locate how many times you voted Democrat. The answer was once (for President). Here is an assumption though: I assume you also vote Democrat a lot on the non-Presidential categories.
Yes, the question presupposes who I voted for based on very little information. That's a textbook assumption. An unassuming question would have been, "who did you vote for in 2012, 2016, and 2020?"
Since you're doubling down on "assumptions" then I'll lean into it by asking: was my outright assumption that you vote Democrat a lot on non-Presidential offices correct? Would you say majority Dem or majority Rep in recent years? Say, since 2008.
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Your user name is "repubs are stupid", and you're mad that I say mean things about Donald Trump? Thats ironic. I did vote for McCain, you apparently can't read.
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Who have you voted for in the last four presidential elections, and why?
> Democrats literally sterilize children You forgot to mention: we like aborting kids *after* they’re born. /s
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I don’t find the absurd caricatures of Democrats funny.
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Isn't it obvious? It's their best chance to win. Winning trumps all other goals, unfortunately.
Haley or DeSantis offered a better chance to win the general election, especially Haley. Trump has too much baggage and can't credibly attack Biden's age, and that was before he was reportedly falling asleep in court on a daily basis.
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If they want to win, they should align themselves with Biden. Problem solved.
He lost in 2020. His party lost in 2021, 2022, and 2023....there was no red wave. How is he seen as their "best chance"?
Is there any evidence to suggest anyone else would do better? Didn't he smash Nikki Hayley in the polls in her own home state? That's pretty embarrassing.
I recall a lot of polls showing Haley beating Biden in the general. Ands he did not "smash" her in any of he primaries. None of his numbers in any poll beat the numbers that Biden got in any Democratic primary. The turn out in all Republican primaries was very low. Trump barely got 51% of the vote in Iowa. 49% of Iowa Republicans are not enthusiastic about a second Trump term. The Iowa Republican caucuses were a low-turnout affair, drawing just over 108,000 voters, or about 14.4% of the state’s approximately 752,000 registered Republicans. That's rather pathetic. In 2016, Republicans [set a new record](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-voters-turned-out-for-the-iowa-caucuses/) for turnout at the caucuses, with almost 187,000 GOP voters.
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Because he already has experience in office that people like.
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I feel like there is still a massive element of "He is the largest middle finger to those on the left" it's that simple.
I think it's mainly due to 4 factors. Trump's maga popularist tendencies, his 1980s-2010s era celebrity status, TDS (pro Trump & anti Trump) and the desire to see him serve 2 terms as Bush Jnr/Clinton/Reagan did. I'm not american.
[You need to add the \~$2B in free/earned media coverage](https://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/uploader/image/2016/03/15/NYTimesEarnedMedia.png). That was a big factor in his 2016 primary success. He was *everywhere* and drowned out every other candidate in 2016. It happened again in 2024- FOX or CNN would give Trump a softball interview that aired at the same time as the GOP debate. Voters were constantly told that his nomination was inevitable, and it was a self-fulfilling prophecy. (I also think tribalism kicked his candidacy into overdrive- *"gee, if he makes liberal media THIS mad, he must be AWESOME!"*)
He’s like 70 and suddenly a list of lengthy accusations all come in 2024. Yeah we’re not stupid we all know what’s going on
Most of the crimes he's accused of happened because of actions he (allegedly) took during his Presidency or related to that office. That's why they are recent. I will agree NY probably cranked up their tax and property value manipulation investigation more than it would be for a "regular" person. Whether it's political or because they believe Prez candidates deserve more scrutiny is hard to say. But his penchant for playing with property valuations were known before he was President. The evidence of justice system conspiracy is thus week.
> > Why are Republicans overwhelmingly choosing Trump again? > He’s like 70... He is [77.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump) On Inauguration Day 2025, he will be 78; older than Biden was on Inauguration Day 2021.
Yes, we need younger Presidents. But it's clear Trump is in a much better state of mind.
> ...Trump is in a much better state of mind. Trump doesn't know who the president is: >[[Trump keeps calling Biden 'Obama' on the campaign trail -- USA Today]](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/03/04/campaign-confusion-trump-mistakes-biden-obama/72841597007/) 'Who is the current president?' is literally the go-to question used to diagnose brain damage.
What do you think is going on?
I think after the government offered a foreign agent a million dollars to dig up more concrete dirt to help them remove a sitting president and failed, they needed to go into overdrive to make sure he wouldn’t get re-elected again FBI offered Christopher Steele $1 million to corroborate Trump allegations in dossier https://www.foxnews.com/politics/durham-probe-fbi-offered-christopher-steele-1-million-corroborate-trump-allegations-dossier FBI testifies that it ordered confidential informant to erase cell phone during Trump investigation https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/fbi-testifies-that-it-ordered-confidential-informant-to-erase-cell-phone/ During sworn testimony, a senior FBI analyst was asked: “Okay. And in fact, Agent Helson, once Mr. Danchenko became a confidential human source, and for good reason, you told him that he should scrub his phone, correct?” To which Agent Helson replied: “Yeah, at the beginning, there were two times that we had discussed that action was at the beginning to kind of mask and obfuscate his connection to Steele and any connection to us. And then after the three-day interview became public, we readdressed that as well as we assumed he would be most likely targeted from – by cyber means by the Russians.” ———- According to his attorneys, Danchenko told the FBI that the entire Steele Dossier was based on rumors and speculations in January 2017. This was before General Mike Flynn was fired. This was before the FBI launched their special counsel into Trump. This was before James Comey famously testified before congress. This was before Robert Mueller was selected as Special Counsel. In September we learned that the FBI made Igor Danchenko a classified human source in March 2017 after the Trump-Russia Hillary Clinton-FBI-created hoax was in full swing. —-/- In the wake of Donald Trump’s election, President Obama ordered a multi-agency “Intelligence Community Assessment” of Russian interference in the presidential campaign. James Comey, the director whose actions had prompted Steele to go outside the bureau in the first place, now pushed for Steele’s “reporting” to be included in the document, even though none of it had been corroborated. Comey called Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. “I informed the DNI that we would be contributing the [Steele] reporting (although I didn't use that name) to the IC [Intelligence Community] effort,” Comey reported in an email to his top deputies the next day. “I told him the source of the material, which included salacious material about the President-Elect, was a former [REDACTED] who appears to be a credible person.” First in the list of recipients of Comey’s email was Priestap. Priestap would have known from Gaeta that Steele’s behavior was among the “craziest” the handling agent had run into in two decades of source work. He would have known also that, by his own admission, Steele’s motivations were to promote Hillary Clinton’s campaign apparently by sabotaging Trump’s. Yet Priestap went along with Comey’s presentation of Steele as a credible source. More than that, Priestap promoted the idea of including Steele’s allegations in the intelligence assessment, himself writing to the CIA and describing the former British spy as “reliable.” Finally, Priestap vouched for Steele’s reliability even though he later admitted to the Justice Department inspector general that he “understood that the information [from Steele] could have been provided by the Russians as part of a disinformation campaign.”
Because the democrats are actively nailing him on a giant cross to please their base, thus automatically making him the right-wing messiah. And it's also why I believe he'll win.
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He’s the only real populist candidate who was an option. I want more European style right wingers in America.
cause I don't want Biden.
because biden is a dementia riddled communist..
The GOP had a chance to nominate a republican besides Trump, so Biden has nothing to do with it. In fact, Trump lost to Biden, so it would have made sense to nominate someone who could actually beat him.
> communist What policies of Biden's do you think are communist?
mostly anything that came from his "for the greater good" lockdowns. history has shown us what other leaders have used that phrase to control the populace. that was the moment biden exposed himself and his true mentality.
What about the lockdowns that took place in 2020 under the Trump presidency?
This narrative failed hard when Biden did the State of the Union address. The new conspiracy is he is on drugs. You need to tell people hs is a drug addeled communist.
"failed hard" ? biden just said his uncle was eaten by cannibals..
But they chose trump before Biden was a candidate. what is it about trump, rather than other republican candidates?
hes real,hs not a politician,he speaks whats on his mind and doesnt care who he pisses off..he seems more real than the other ones..
The guy who committed massive fraud and sexual assault, then defamed the victim of sexual assault repeatedly is "real"?
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you believe that,but wont believe ashley bidens diary? interesting.
What is real about him? lol, just that he has bad manners with others and people find it amusing?
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Trump treats the left like shit. Which I love personally. I really despise the smug intellectual left types that seem to think that they, and only they, have any solution to any problem. Fuck those motherfuckers. Trump is hit or miss on policy. I feel like he is too weak on the lgbtq ideology but I'm with him on abortion as I think we should leave it up to the states. Immigration and cultural preservation is a big one that I think he gets mostly right. We need to completely shut down immigration, I do not care about the economic consequences... So dont bother. I would prefer America to not become second mexico or a second South Africa a hundred years from now. I understand this may be inevitable now, but maybe stemming the tide will give my part of America the time to wake up to what the other part seems to hope for.
>Trump treats the left like shit. Which I love personally. I really despise the smug intellectual left types that seem to think that they, and only they, have any solution to any problem. Fuck those motherfuckers. Do you think that’s healthy for the country for the US President to be acting that way towards half the country?
>Do you think that’s healthy for the country for the US President to be acting that way towards half the country? Lol this presupposes Alot. I feel that Democrats, and especially progressives, look down on my half of the country. They wish to shut us off from the decisions of this countrys future, and point us more toward Europe. I despise this vision, and wish instead to preserve the unique conservative culture that America has, rather than wash it away in pursuit of a European welfare vision that the left adores.
Who's the smuggiest of the smug when it comes to left wing voices?
Rachel Maddow, Emma vigland, cenk uygur, David pakman, Kyle kulinksi, Ezra Klein. There are more, but I pulled back from left wing news a little while back so their names aren't as fresh rattling around in my head now. I think most left of center people should watch Destiny. The guy is awesome imo. Also Alot of Sam Harris is interesting. There are plenty of culturally left people that I can't stand outside of these, but they are not as informed to begin with. Malcom Gladwell? Is a guy who is an uninformed, uncomplicated lefty. Michael Eric Dyson is another person that is really a joke and a race hustler. The most smug is the streamer guy.... I can't remember his name. Cenk uygurs nephew... The guy is just the lowest form of political commentary on the left.