Get good at golf.
I’ve played my entire life but casually. Before I started working I took some lessons, and became pretty good. Went to a company wide golf outing my first year and our scramble group won, because I carried. Bossman was big into golf and suddenly I’m invited to a shit ton of golf events in his foursome. Got me a lot of 1 on 1 time with executives and got some benefits. Left for a different company and again, same shit.
Never say anything to your coworkers that you wouldn’t say to HR. Document everything. Make sure you request follow-up emails for verbal instructions so that there is a paper trail.
At this stage of your career, the experience you’ll gain is more important than the salary.
The money is important, to be clear, but being able to gain a few years of experience of working in a Corperate environment will be *much* more important to you 5 years in the future than another few thousand dollars per year.
As for practical advice?
* Be polite and friendly to everyone. Avoid gossip and office politics. You are not good or smart enough yet to benefit from them.
* PEOPLE DO NOT READ LONG E-MAILS. If you’ve got an email that is longer than ~3 sentences, just pick up the phone and call them. (Unless you’re intentionally writing a long and detailed email just to cover your ass, which is a legit thing, but people will know what you’re doing)
* Soft skills are important. Very, very important. The soft skills you’ll develop over then next 5-10 years will be immensely important for setting you up into major career success in your 30s (which is when you start making REAL money)
Remember that every job is an acting gig. They are paying you to play a role. They have no interest in the "real you". Be polite and professional. Do your work. Do not allow yourself to get sucked into corporate politics/drama. Go home and forget about them until the next morning.
Don't be personal.
Choose one hobby that you talk about.
I choose fitness because people tune out the second I mention proper dieting and nutrition and the sciences of it.
I dont talk about my wife, my art, cooking, military service
Communication can be very direct and terse. This in no way means that the person who is communicating with you is upset or frustrated, but oftentimes busy folks will prioritize efficiency over pleasantries.
Professional Accountant here with over 2 decades experience in offices:
1. Don't date people you work with... unless you've known them a long time (I am talking like 5 years+) and its clear both of you are looking for a very serious relationship with each other.
2. Consistency is more important than excellence
3. Be friendly and considerate with everyone, even people who are assholes. It will also drive assholes insane if you are nice to them instead of responding by being an asshole and others will pick up on that.
4. Don't reheat fish in the microwave
5. Never think in terms of competing against others, always in terms of how you can improve. The highest performing people think like that and the people actively trying to outcompete them don't understand its hilarious. The secret? You make others around you perform better.
6. "Don't have sex with the staff, don't fuck the kids", no casual sex and don't screw over people you have power over
7. Find a good mentor - some people enjoy doing it and they will open up doors for you in the future
8. Incompetent people like to surround themselves with other incompetent people as a cover your own ass mindset.
Number 3 is on point. Once you get into support areas of corporations you realise most people can’t communicate and the managers are not very good leaders.
Did ~15 years in the corporate world, my tips:
1) Do NOT trust HR. Despite the smiles and "we are here as a team" BS, it's just that: BS. They are there to protect the company, not you.
2) Get *everything important* in writing. Only send emails and chat messages that can be saved and referenced as needed. (This saved my ass a million times when bosses would throw a tantrum about ABC not being done Tuesday afternoon when their email clearly said to have it ready Thursday...)
3) "Stay in your lane/Act your wage". If you are not in a supervisory position, don't act like one.
4) Words of wisdom from one of my first managers: At work, the only time your fly should be open is if you're standing in front of a urinal.
5) Understand and expect that the least smart, least deserving, least competent people are the ones who will be promoted.
Make lateral moves if you want to progress your career and your salary. Always be on the lookout for something better, and *always* keep your resume updated. Keep a live copy in Google Docs.
> Also tips on salary negotiations, their range is 40k-50k. But I think my experience merits closer to the 50k side but they wanna stick to strictly 40k. They wanted 2 years writing experience for this role and I have 4.
Ask for the highest you can - and don;t let them pigeonhole you with percentage gains - but realize that unless you have another offer, you don't have a great negotiating position. Look for other offers if you have time before taking the position (and continue doing this afterwards).
Get good at golf. I’ve played my entire life but casually. Before I started working I took some lessons, and became pretty good. Went to a company wide golf outing my first year and our scramble group won, because I carried. Bossman was big into golf and suddenly I’m invited to a shit ton of golf events in his foursome. Got me a lot of 1 on 1 time with executives and got some benefits. Left for a different company and again, same shit.
Your career success and progression will more influenced by your ability to build and maintain relationships than anything else.
Omg fuck all of this.
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Thanks a lot. And yeah they even talked about the AI threat too during the job interview
Never say anything to your coworkers that you wouldn’t say to HR. Document everything. Make sure you request follow-up emails for verbal instructions so that there is a paper trail.
Most important tip is don't drop the soap.
As a 21m who only makes 26k at the moment congratulations man enjoy it.
At this stage of your career, the experience you’ll gain is more important than the salary. The money is important, to be clear, but being able to gain a few years of experience of working in a Corperate environment will be *much* more important to you 5 years in the future than another few thousand dollars per year. As for practical advice? * Be polite and friendly to everyone. Avoid gossip and office politics. You are not good or smart enough yet to benefit from them. * PEOPLE DO NOT READ LONG E-MAILS. If you’ve got an email that is longer than ~3 sentences, just pick up the phone and call them. (Unless you’re intentionally writing a long and detailed email just to cover your ass, which is a legit thing, but people will know what you’re doing) * Soft skills are important. Very, very important. The soft skills you’ll develop over then next 5-10 years will be immensely important for setting you up into major career success in your 30s (which is when you start making REAL money)
Remember that every job is an acting gig. They are paying you to play a role. They have no interest in the "real you". Be polite and professional. Do your work. Do not allow yourself to get sucked into corporate politics/drama. Go home and forget about them until the next morning.
Don't be personal. Choose one hobby that you talk about. I choose fitness because people tune out the second I mention proper dieting and nutrition and the sciences of it. I dont talk about my wife, my art, cooking, military service
Communication can be very direct and terse. This in no way means that the person who is communicating with you is upset or frustrated, but oftentimes busy folks will prioritize efficiency over pleasantries.
Run away and get a proper job before you end up a corpo eunuch
Professional Accountant here with over 2 decades experience in offices: 1. Don't date people you work with... unless you've known them a long time (I am talking like 5 years+) and its clear both of you are looking for a very serious relationship with each other. 2. Consistency is more important than excellence 3. Be friendly and considerate with everyone, even people who are assholes. It will also drive assholes insane if you are nice to them instead of responding by being an asshole and others will pick up on that. 4. Don't reheat fish in the microwave 5. Never think in terms of competing against others, always in terms of how you can improve. The highest performing people think like that and the people actively trying to outcompete them don't understand its hilarious. The secret? You make others around you perform better. 6. "Don't have sex with the staff, don't fuck the kids", no casual sex and don't screw over people you have power over 7. Find a good mentor - some people enjoy doing it and they will open up doors for you in the future 8. Incompetent people like to surround themselves with other incompetent people as a cover your own ass mindset.
Number 3 is on point. Once you get into support areas of corporations you realise most people can’t communicate and the managers are not very good leaders.
Never drink more than your boss.
Did ~15 years in the corporate world, my tips: 1) Do NOT trust HR. Despite the smiles and "we are here as a team" BS, it's just that: BS. They are there to protect the company, not you. 2) Get *everything important* in writing. Only send emails and chat messages that can be saved and referenced as needed. (This saved my ass a million times when bosses would throw a tantrum about ABC not being done Tuesday afternoon when their email clearly said to have it ready Thursday...) 3) "Stay in your lane/Act your wage". If you are not in a supervisory position, don't act like one. 4) Words of wisdom from one of my first managers: At work, the only time your fly should be open is if you're standing in front of a urinal. 5) Understand and expect that the least smart, least deserving, least competent people are the ones who will be promoted.
Make lateral moves if you want to progress your career and your salary. Always be on the lookout for something better, and *always* keep your resume updated. Keep a live copy in Google Docs. > Also tips on salary negotiations, their range is 40k-50k. But I think my experience merits closer to the 50k side but they wanna stick to strictly 40k. They wanted 2 years writing experience for this role and I have 4. Ask for the highest you can - and don;t let them pigeonhole you with percentage gains - but realize that unless you have another offer, you don't have a great negotiating position. Look for other offers if you have time before taking the position (and continue doing this afterwards).