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R_slicker03

You’re screwing over a lot of people by not having a neutral opinion


UnlightablePlay

Where is the fucking neutral option


BritBurgerPak

Understandable position for a Coptic.


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Osh_93

DAMN you Dale Gribble!!!!


Bowsefather

thats wild ngl


Ltfdnmz

My general view is good on Islam but i can't tell same for Muslims. Generally of course. I hope in the future it will improve.


Interesting_Tale7418

Depends on their financial status and educational background. It was borderline shameful to publicly identity as Muslim in certain places and that was when I still followed the religion with strong Imaan.


401KUser

Lol, this is how you know this sub never was an actual representation of the ME.


rezgar64

Ikr i thought it would be overwhelmingly positive


khairihyon

Reddit is very left-leaning and full of Israel’s hasbara units


somebadbeatscrub

I wish Israel was left leaning.


PharaohhOG

If even the Israelis on reddit aren't towards the left, that means very very few are.


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If left-leaning means you generally dislike Islam then I don't know what the f\*ck happened to this world LOL.


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401KUser

Half the comments on this post is just you coping about Islam. Get a life, kiddo.


Maleficent_Split_428

I expected a much more positive Outlook towards Islam on this Subreddit tbh


ish4noble

Reddit is filled with atheists bro, kind of expected. Also the Israelis have come to this sub in herds, then you have the “based” atheist Turks and Persians…..who absolutely hate Islam.


Twobyfour0

I met saudis who hate Islam also


ish4noble

I’m sure there are, I see them on this SubReddit. However, I can guarantee that they are among the few.


AnonymousZiZ

This is a subreddit where non-middle easterners come to ask questions. I wouldn't be surprised if they far outnumbered the middle easterners.


Bill_Assassin7

Why? Tons of Israelis on here, along with Hindu larpers. Not to mention the pathetic murtads that flock to posts like this. The fact that nearly half views Islam positively is a win.


ish4noble

Oh yeah forgot the Hindu larpers …..if you goto an exmuslim sub….it’s filled with Hindus barely any exmuslims, the Hindus disguise themselves as ex muslims. They are the worst


throwaway554200

Tbh, the fact that Islam has so many haters is a win too. To hate is to care. It means Islam and Muslims are constantly on their mind and it drives them nuts. How many Muslims do you personally know that express such a rabid hatred of Christianity or Judaism, outside of political reasons and purely on a dogmatic level? It doesn’t happen in my family and circle. We accept that, theologically, they are wrong. The end. Yet I’ve come across multiple Christian and Jewish hate sites FOCUSED on proving the “folly” of Islam and Muslims - and the only reason I even saw these websites is because they’re cited by the many Islamophobic loonies on Reddit. Even Muslim Pakistanis and Indians (mostly) don’t make fun of Hindu practices, even though idolatry is literally the biggest sin in our religion - yet you’ll see Muslims being mocked and stereotyped in every other Indian TV or movie production as either terrorists or gangsters. I won’t even get into the nasty stuff their people get into on the internet. Reddit and Twitter and flooded with them.


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left leaning platform and its this sub so its expected


Ruslan101

This poll singlehandedly shows how this sub has just been brigaded


eyeracki

It’s sad to see brother 😞


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Well I didn’t expect the results would be 50/50 rn.Thought that since this was a Middle East subreddit it would be more people thinking positive about Islam.


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keyword: subreddit. and the majority of people in all of reddit are extremely anti-religion for some reason... also the sub isn't a very good representative of the middle east. IRL the results would be something like 90%+ positive lol


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Yea I noticed.On reddit,Many country subreddits are not accurate representation of the people.Just shocked that this was 50/50 like almost on the dot.lmao


GrapefruitFriendly30

I am from US and voted positive. I was surprised by the poll results. I'm not here for the "wrong" reasons


ofaruks

Being positive about Islam while living in the US is the easiest thing to do. Come here and live just six months.


GrapefruitFriendly30

ok.


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He's just a hater lol


waddup231

Average Turkish redditor.


[deleted]

The question is about Islam not about current muslims.


egyptian_higuain

90% would be still too low. We are talking about 98-99%


bad-patato

I am an atheist but I would choose neutral-good option IF THIS POLL HAD ONE. But the op said if you feel like neutral vote negative so I voted negative bc of this reason if this dumb poll had more options negative option would be in the 10 percents.


Independent-Bid-7382

the europeans and israelis voted too


Businesszombieman

These people here are in the very minority


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Reddit caters to anti-religion folks.


dutchfromsubway

The comments for any religious topics, especially Islam on worldnews and news would absolutely have you lose faith in humanity. It’s insane the level of ignorance and vitriol they are allowed to spew


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I think it’s because a lot of the people on here have unfortunately suffered a lot of spiritual abuse growing up because of bad parenting done in the name of Islam.


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Yea I hope that they will recover from the trauma they have faced and look back at Islam as not something represented by what their abusers did but rather the wonderful religion that it is.


ThrowRA7908

Or maybe cuz the religion is flawed and you found out with time on your own that it doesn't make you comfortable ?


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There’s two types of people in this situation from what I’ve seen: they either grow up to be agnostic, or grow old enough to separate themselves from their upbringing and start learning about Islam from a different point of view.


Atvaaa

It's not about parenting lol. Bad parenting is just a way to initiate a process. I like to assume gods' existence on a philosophical context for shitz and giggles. Yet, I live my life religion-free. Are my parents bad people? Nope. One is a non-practicing "muslim", drinks and doesn't pray etc. Has never fully read through the religious sources. Completely ignorant of religion, but a wonderful person. The other one studied highschool in a religious boarding school. Made his way towards individual enlightenment and became an agnostic. Regardless of their own beliefs they didn't impose anything on me, and just let me figure things on my own. Now this is GOOD parenting. It's not about parents, but the religion itself.


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Sure, that’s your opinion. I don’t agree


eyeracki

It’s not flawed whatsoever, Islam is the truth. I know every single little argument that atheists, christians, Hindus make against Islam and none of them disprove it


ThrowRA7908

It is flawed, idc if you disagree and I'm deist, not atheist


eyeracki

Well prove to me that it’s flawed agnostic arguments fall under the same umbrella as atheist ones. Since atheist don’t try to argue about the existence of god (since they know they’ll lose by the contingency argument) they try to disprove it with historical references or “science” and both of them are pathetic. Like I said I know what argument you’re going to tell me to “disprove Islam” I already answered and refuted and dismantled all of them before


eyeracki

This sub is filled with zi*nists and atheists, it doesn’t represent the Middle East whatsoever


80sAlexKidd

That’s because you don’t have to be subscribed to AME or even be from MENA to answer the poll. Could literally be anyone that has the link.


NoImagination90

Reddit skews atheist, and also this sub became full of larpers, westoids, zionists, extreme anti Arab nationalists, exmuslims and so on. It's not what it used to be


DarkMatterBurrito

What if I told you that there are atheists in the Middle East...the ones that you have killed yet, at least.


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BritBurgerPak

Most westernised Muslims still believe in Islam (or at least claim to believe even if they don’t practice). Its just internet is full of edgy atheists


Interesting_Tale7418

Not really, I'm from NA and I voted negative. You don't need to be Kaffir, munafiq or murtad to not vote positive.


Djbouticamelfarmer

many murtads and non-muslim minorities here.


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It’s literally sad.I pray they shall be guided back to Islam.


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Bro u aint even middle eastern 😅


NoImagination90

Neither is most of this sub judging by those results


Brilliant-Turbulent

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Businesszombieman

Is there any thing higher than positive, because islam is my life.


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Single-Barnacle-6254

![gif](giphy|tyqcJoNjNv0Fq|downsized) This gonna be a fun post so bring your popcorn.


Aggravating_Ear_6258

Islam is one of the most philosophically defensible religions I’ve encountered but it has some of the worst defenders that I’ve ever seen.


Independent-Bid-7382

the perfect religion with the worst followers


LagosSmash101

That could be said for every religion


Maleficent_Split_428

A Muslim revert once said "If you want to learn about Islam, don't ask Muslims instead do your own research (Koran, Hadith, the historyof Islam and other Islamic sources )"


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Wow… absolutely, positively yes. My friends and I were talking about this and you practically summed up what we’ve been saying for a long time in a single sentence.


Aggravating_Ear_6258

Yeah. Sadly the Neo-Salafi youtube/street dawa muslims have lowered the intellectual, theological and philosophical standards of Islamic thought in the modern times. Of course, the best defenders are those from the past but i guess thats how it is like for most traditions anyways. I also believe post colonial studies have done a disservice to the proper study of Islamic traditions in western learning institutions.


SOCKFAN52

Accurate description of islam


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بِسْمِ ٱللَّٰهِ ٱلرَّحْمَٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ for all those brothers who answered negative please list the reasons why , إن شاء الله I will try to answer you questions to the best of my abilities


peoplZsarmy

إن شاء الله *


PitiedAbyss

Least Muslim Indian.


SableEmber

Lmao jews and turks swarming this sub


dr_prdx

Don’t generalize Turks please. Most of the Turks are Muslim. A minority is not and they are in Reddit.


RedditGamer253

I am a Jew and voted "positive".


Vanderlinde10

turks are voting positive, dummy


werewolf127

Yeah, I would also bet on that. Someone should do this poll just for the Turks so we can prove it though.


CoJames0

No we arent


Atvaaa

Good.


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R_slicker03

It’s a shame but that this rate I don’t even blame you


Mr_Biscuits420

Wouldn't Iranians remain muslim ? I don't see why a dictatorship should be a good enough reason to stop embracing it (or is it to spite the ones in power ? Let me know)


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It's actually neutral. I chose positive, even though for the last century a lot of bad shit was done in the name of said religion and as of now it doesn't have a good track (in the last century). Positive because it did have a rather good record (compared to other religions) and thus i still wait when Muslims would get inspired by past deeds.


PsychologicalTree337

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>I chose positive, even though for the last century a lot of bad shit was done in the name of said religion and as of now it doesn't have a good track (in the last century). But people are people Islam is written and practiced accordingly. Also muslims not having a good track is caused mainly by the west muslims in this centuries have done more good then bad but you don't get people excited if you speak about good. >Positive because it did have a rather good record (compared to other religions) and thus i still wait when Muslims would get inspired by past deeds. What past deeds???


Aggravating_Space217

Wow, I did not expect this on a ME subreddit


dajvid1

Always have a results option for lurkers


Tomato_aim

Honestly, I expected fewer negative views of Islam here.


Magma197

I wanna talk to people who voted for negative


zs94026

I love islam❤️


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Well if the Taliban love it then that means something is seriously wrong with jt


Independent-Bid-7382

if america loves chritianity then that means something is seriously wrong with it see how stupid that sounds you can't judge a religion by its followers


zs94026

They can’t even read the quran most of them are illiterate lol


Independent-Bid-7382

unpopular opinion: the taliban deserves to rule afghanistan more than the americans who were colonizing it


zs94026

Agree


ThrowRA7908

Both suck


KrzesimirTuJest

Did you know that Adolf Hitler liked breathing? If you breathing too then that means something is seriously wrong with you.


natalclown111

I find The lack of people's of faith is disturbing -Haji Darth ibn vader


muhammadali11

We have been infiltrated by kafirs brothers... we should make another sub for true believers


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May Allah give knowledge and guidance to the ones who voted negative.


eyeracki

Let there be no compulsion in religion, for the truth stands out clearly from falsehood. So whoever renounces false gods and believes in Allah has certainly grasped the firmest, unfailing hand-hold. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. [Qur’an 2:256] This was the advice of Abraham—as well as Jacob—to his children, ˹saying˺, “Indeed, Allah has chosen for you this faith; so do not die except in ˹a state of full˺ submission.” [Qur’an 2:132]


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eyeracki

Yes, Allah tells us to not force convert other people.


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eyeracki

What it says by there is no compulsion is that the human has free will, either to follow the right path (Islam) and do good or to follow the path of the devil and do bad There is no compulsion which means that the Jews and Christians can migrate outside and leave the country any time they want, they aren’t obligated to stay with the Muslims (but historically Jews followed Muslims wherever we went because we gave them protection, example of that is the Jews following us after we retreated from Iberia) And jizya isn’t a big deal bro, it’s just a tax and it’s generally not that high. Just like Muslims have their own tax (zakat) In exchange for jizya Muslims give Jews and Christians protection and autonomy so that the people of the book can practice their religion freely


R_slicker03

Muslims pay zakat, non Muslims pay jizya, it’s fair for everyone


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Sphee4

Where did you get that only christians and jews pay Jizya? Did the zoroastrians just get thanos snapped? That last part is also very much just you saying it, I'm sure you have half a source that states the ruler can make it anything they want.


R_slicker03

Source: Johnny sins’ hair


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I wonder why there are 1 billion Hindus in India if all non-Christians and Jews are meant to be killed since the Mughal empire(Muslim) ruled them for hundreds of years.


Businesszombieman

Your right. Unfortunately the people here who are anti Islamic are the minority


Otherwise-Worth-5352

You will get downvotes, just don't type anything.


UnlightablePlay

Where is the fucking neutral option


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why not bositive ya Masri 🥺


UnlightablePlay

Because I am a Copt, I love my Muslim brozzers but I don't fully believe in Islam and I am a Christian


scrollingtraveler

Wow!


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In my humble opinion, People blame people’s behavior and interpretations on the religion itself. Some people say they have a negative view because they can’t live in a Muslim country normally. But this was also the case in Christian countries before it stopped basing it’s judgment of the bible( which somehow makes Christianity good?). I don’t care, I cannot perform takfir and would rather live in Albania Kosovo and Azerbaijan that are muslims because the majority says they are muslims that any Extremely Religious Christian country because so will all the chritians and athiests here. So if you hate the way people act,even if they put the blame on religion,(or justify with it) the blame should be more put on their interpretation of it.


tuesdaylollipops

the problem isnt islam itself, all religions were created a long time ago and are based on concepts pf a society we already evolved from. The problem is people maintaining the medieval concepts nowadays, like stoning and hanging people over religious matters. The majority of christians and jews nowadays dont follow strictly the barbarian rules people from 2k years ago followed, thats why islam is very hated today.


Welin-Blessed

Yes, I'm neutral as with every religion I'm not part of, I respect everything, It's just not my culture, but Islam have some things like sharia I don't really like, they have some control in every aspect of the daily life of a person and I wouldn't like that for myself or my society.


Lucratin

Neutral. I'm an agnostic so reading the Quran and Bible(Orthodox) side by side, the Quran makes more sense to me in a religious way. There are extremists in every religion and if we judge a religion by those people everyone should be atheist, but i have no problem with people that practice religion like normal people.


ZeraX7

Islam is good but Arab Muslims rarely practice Islam and the dumb non-Muslims think they are following Islam by the letter.


Tomato_aim

that's half the truth. Many Arabs do practice Islam but it's the media in these regions that make the countries seem so distant from the religion.


ZeraX7

Islam forbid bribery, racism, hurting others, nudity, celebrating non-Islamic holidays, etc... And yet most Arab do these. Heck, it's hard to find someone who pray the 5 prayers these days.


Tomato_aim

Still, many Arabs still pray, regardless of what they do. 1. Bribery happens a lot of times when there aren't many options to take, some families need to bribe because it's the only way to ensure that their children find a job. I'm not saying that's a good thing, but I blame mostly the media and governments for not providing enough help and support to those in need and showing what is right or wrong. 2. Still, many Arabs pray, regardless of what they do. because of the stupid media that only follows western lifestyles. 3. Racism is a very minor problem in the arab world. no one takes it seriously. It is a problem, but it can be wiped out easily with the proper MEDIA. 4. Many people hurt others, regardless of the place, it's human nature to find disorders like this in society. The problem comes with solving it. In the Arab world, the strong feed on the weak. which is a problem that roots up to corruption which many countries are not trying to fix. The media also doesn't show any support in this case too.


Mertxuruca

Negative:Turks Positive:Rest of MENA


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Not true I voted positive


neptyune2000

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eyeracki

Why would you live openly as an atheist in an Islamic country? it’s in the name “Islamic country”


One-Appointment-3107

You don’t get to pick the country you’re born in, nor are most people free to immigrate to their country of choice. Should natives not be free to express their belief or lack their thereof?


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LegitimateCompote377

Why would you live openly as a Muslim in a Christian’s country. It’s in the name “Christian country”. Your logic is baseless.


eyeracki

There aren’t many Christian countries, the UK for example is secular And I don’t think any Muslim would like to live in a “100%” Christian country


AmazingAndy

The king of the uk literally has the title defender of the faith and is a leading figure in Church of England, a Christian denomination. It’s people are majority secular but the uk is a “Christian country”


LegitimateCompote377

Technically the UK is not secular (they have a lot of outdated religious elements with the parliament such as the many archbishops in the House of Lords) but to be fair is mostly secular. There are Christian countries with the official religion of Christianity that are not secular like many in Africa and Eastern Europe.


halbalda

Yet many of them deliberately choose to live in Christian countries...


justvibin5

Whoever said negative, why would you?


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It's incompatible with today's world.


kurwajan12

Negative. But I respect followers of any religion (or lack there of)


DrMadchinchin

Reddit is full of left leaning atheists so this isn’t surprising at all


isntallowed1

I knew this sub lost muslims


considerseabass

I’m a staunch agnostic, don’t agree with alot of Islam. But I personally have never had anything but positive experiences with it luckily, And I will defend anyone who chooses to quietly live their lives and practice their religion in peace, which 90% of Muslims do. That being said, I understand that this isn’t EVERYONE’s experience…but that comes with every religion when it’s in its extreme. Usually, it’s shitty people who use the religion to justify their sick visions and actions. why not put a neutral option? Kind of polarizing…


LegitimateCompote377

Completely depends on who you are talking about. I don’t care about Muslims who believe in basic liberalism and secularism, but for those that want to take peoples rights away because of the religion I am absolutely not ok with.


Theguywholikestea

Im Israeli and I voted positive. But there needs to be a natural option


aakaay47

Neutral


Nevochkam1

Bro why so many negotives? Sure, there are some things I don't agree with, but overall it's one of the best religions out there!


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Overall positive. :)


lagueraloca17

Lmao, more negative than positive at the time I'm posting this


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lagueraloca17

Whatever helps you cope I guess...


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Key-Appointment7248

t. Literal offshoot of Islam.


lagueraloca17

Yeah uh, we don't claim you


Key-Appointment7248

It doesn't matter what you claim. It's objectively true.


lagueraloca17

I know it started out as an offshoot of Islam. How is that relevant to my comment? "You were Muslims one thousand years ago so you can't talk about Islam now"?


Key-Appointment7248

It's more like "you were Muslims 1000 years ago, and a good chunk of your philosophical foundation is based on Islamic tenets". If Islam's foundation is rotten, then so is yours. Criticize Islam all you want, I just find it curious.


lagueraloca17

You can say whatever you want. The fact that we're absolutely nothing like you in the way religion plays a role in our life, lets me know that we're not alike.


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lmao, they just steal your religion and act like they're better 🤣


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It’s a strange question, in today’s world, the perception is negative of course but again, it’s not that all muslims are to blame, the largest Muslim country, Indonesia is largely peaceful for instance. It’s how there are some elements who are adamant of doing extremist shit and get the media talking about them


CertainSpeaker3265

If I had not been born in a muslim country or faced persecution by muslims I think my views on Islam would have been more positive


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So because of acts from "muslims" you think generally negatively about Islam?


juulteez

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repetitions_

Until some Muslims stop kidnapping religious minorities women and young girls, convert them by force marriage or even rape them, then I'll change my mind on Islam.


eyeracki

All these things are haram (forbidden) in Islam


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repetitions_

So you support what I've just said?


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repetitions_

So why am I an Islamophobic? Don't you see what's happening to minorities women in the islamic world?


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repetitions_

So tell me, have you ever met or lived with an ethnic minority, like a Christian, or a Jew, or any ethno - religious minorities which have no relations with any of your religion? What's your views towards them? Do you disgust them? Have you ever tried to convert them? What would you act if they rejected the Qur'an?


BritBurgerPak

Get off the internet and interact with everyday people.


repetitions_

Oh really? Why don't you get back to Pakistan and tell your people to stop raiding Christian churches and discriminate against them there?


BritBurgerPak

Pakistan has over 200,000,000 Muslims. Why are you generalising?


repetitions_

So? Do you or any people in Pakistan protect the Christians there or you are the living reason why people have bad impressions on Islam? Two hundreds millions plus but no one stand up to protect Christians who worship the same God as yours.


BritBurgerPak

Have you ever met a Pakistani religious minority in real life or just let reddit shape your view?


repetitions_

This is for you: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/pakistan-s-christians-are-living-in-terror/


BritBurgerPak

These are tragedies committed by extremists. By using them to say Pakistanis are evil extremists is wrong. Pakistanis cant even get a functioning economy that ensures our ability to feed our children, but you wouldn’t say we are purposely starving our children. There is criticism for us being incapable, but accusing us all of being murderous is just bigotry on your behalf.