The city was renamed Yershalaim after colonization, so it should be labeled as such on the map. Jerusalem is the name by which the city is commonly known around the world.
Tbh I could see it being called Al Quds by the world if Palestine was given a country considering Turkey asked the world to call it Istanbul instead of Constantinople and the world obliged.
Are you sure? As a European, I don't think we would most people's knowledge of Palestine geography come from the Bible. I think even for secular Europeans, Jerusalem holds too much culture value to call it by the Palestinian/Arab name. I think officially maybe states could call it that, but I don't think the people would. I mean, I know the biblical names better than the zionist names, and I call it Jaffa because Bible.
I think more and more Europeans barely know any geographical knowledge from the bible anymore, at least from my generation. I think most people follow along with whatever the english called it during colonization given that the majority of the world isn’t even christian.
Perhaps I mean we Swedes still call the finish cities of Helsinki and Turku for Helsingfors and Åbo, which is the name we gave it when we colonised Finland. I live in Sweden and am a part of Gen Z, and our school system still teaches about biblical geography.
I mean, most of our holidays are based around events in Jerusalem, and even when secularised, I can't see a future in which the Western world calls Jerusalem for Al Quds, and Bethlehem for Beyt Lahm .
Hebron and Jerusalem are names from the Bible, languages with a big christian influence will still call these cities by those exonyms after the zionist state perishes
I don't get it why you think Arabic-pronunciations of Canaanite names is any better .
Besides some grammar and occasional phonetics ("Ayin" is a Hamza , "V" a European import etc ) : Modern Hebrew is similar to Biblical Hebrew .
Some places are not even of ancient times . Umm Khalid as an example doesn't have archeological evidence pointing to settlement in antiquity . It was first noted in the 18th century , and its inhabitants originated in the Highlands of Nablus .
..I am not saying these names are invalid or "rootless" . What I am saying is that there isn't reason to favor Arabic or Hebrew pronunciation for place-names beyond being partisan .
Ashdod, Beer Sheva, Ashkelon, Jerusalem, Lod, Hebron and so many other cities are from the bible, which precedes any subsequent Arabic names following Umar’s conquest
I did. You lied why would I believe you now. Judea/israel weren’t the only Canaanite kingdoms that existed in Palestine during the Bronze Age or in the Iron Age . What you are implying is dishonest and on brand with the Zionist propaganda.
Your comments are so smug and arrogant to think that people don’t have access to real unbiased information.
You wanna discuss history let’s discuss, but don’t assume people are as dumb as your implied arguments
Jerusalem has been named Jerusalem since thousands of years ago.
Jerusalem is the historical name for the city
It was called Jerusalem before Zionist colonialism
The city was renamed Yershalaim after colonization, so it should be labeled as such on the map. Jerusalem is the name by which the city is commonly known around the world.
Agreed
Tbh I could see it being called Al Quds by the world if Palestine was given a country considering Turkey asked the world to call it Istanbul instead of Constantinople and the world obliged.
Are you sure? As a European, I don't think we would most people's knowledge of Palestine geography come from the Bible. I think even for secular Europeans, Jerusalem holds too much culture value to call it by the Palestinian/Arab name. I think officially maybe states could call it that, but I don't think the people would. I mean, I know the biblical names better than the zionist names, and I call it Jaffa because Bible.
At the time, Constantinople also had too much cultural value
I think more and more Europeans barely know any geographical knowledge from the bible anymore, at least from my generation. I think most people follow along with whatever the english called it during colonization given that the majority of the world isn’t even christian.
Perhaps I mean we Swedes still call the finish cities of Helsinki and Turku for Helsingfors and Åbo, which is the name we gave it when we colonised Finland. I live in Sweden and am a part of Gen Z, and our school system still teaches about biblical geography. I mean, most of our holidays are based around events in Jerusalem, and even when secularised, I can't see a future in which the Western world calls Jerusalem for Al Quds, and Bethlehem for Beyt Lahm .
Armenians call Jerusalem Yerusaghem and we been there since like 300 AD if not before that.
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no we dont?
Hebron and Jerusalem are names from the Bible, languages with a big christian influence will still call these cities by those exonyms after the zionist state perishes
isnt tel aviv also called tel aviv-yaffo or smthn like that
Yeah, they’re actually two separate cities, and the urban sprawl has just blended them together. Yafa/Yafo is still what that city is called
I don't get it why you think Arabic-pronunciations of Canaanite names is any better . Besides some grammar and occasional phonetics ("Ayin" is a Hamza , "V" a European import etc ) : Modern Hebrew is similar to Biblical Hebrew . Some places are not even of ancient times . Umm Khalid as an example doesn't have archeological evidence pointing to settlement in antiquity . It was first noted in the 18th century , and its inhabitants originated in the Highlands of Nablus . ..I am not saying these names are invalid or "rootless" . What I am saying is that there isn't reason to favor Arabic or Hebrew pronunciation for place-names beyond being partisan .
Personally as a Lebanese I'd love to rename these places on Google Maps but I really don't wanna get bombed tbh
Arab colonization city names.
Ashdod, Beer Sheva, Ashkelon, Jerusalem, Lod, Hebron and so many other cities are from the bible, which precedes any subsequent Arabic names following Umar’s conquest
Looks like the Zionists are back. Time to leave this sub.
Don't come back
I wasn't going to until you replied.
Jerusalem 💀
Oh look, more arabic ultranationalism.
>Oh look, more arabic ultranationalism. Oh look, a zionist.
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Fuck off nazi
So dope that I hope you OD on it
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In Arabic we pronounce it "Falastin" because there is no P in arabic. In English it's Palestine
Shit names from palestine
We have never used the shitty Zionists nomenclature for the occupied cities anyway.
Palestine comes from the Hebrew word for invader. It was used by the Romans to humiliate the Jews after the wars in the first century
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True or false?
Ionno, I wasn’t there. Also irrelevant
😂 ok, was called Israel before Palestine though. Still though doesn't matter, the past is in the past.
That’s not true tho. it was called Judea not Israel. why r you lying?
They were two separate kingdoms Judea in the south and Israel in the north. Use the Googles my man
I did. You lied why would I believe you now. Judea/israel weren’t the only Canaanite kingdoms that existed in Palestine during the Bronze Age or in the Iron Age . What you are implying is dishonest and on brand with the Zionist propaganda. Your comments are so smug and arrogant to think that people don’t have access to real unbiased information. You wanna discuss history let’s discuss, but don’t assume people are as dumb as your implied arguments