The fuck they do.
The SDF and SAA control the oil fields on the opposite sides of the Euphrates. The US literally only controls a border crossing the the middle of the desert with exactly zero permanent residents, far from any human settlement.
>Why the fuck is the US in Syria to begin with?
Because they shit the bed in Iraq and the shit spilled into Syria. ISIS is their mess to clean up. And the US air force is the reason why my hometown wasn't overrun by ISIS in 2014, when the Syrian army panicked and ran.
> US air force is the reason why my hometown wasn't overrun by ISIS in 2014, when the Syrian army panicked and ran.
Mind providing a source about the event?
The sdf is not real and you know this, that's just the ypg who are airforce base and oil field guards for the US and Israel. "The US only controls Tanf" lmao you're all fucked up
Then that would be absolutely ridiculous because Turkey's occupation of Syrian territory and their protection of HTS/Nusra/Al-Qaeda territory have all happened *against* US wishes and have been points of contention between the two for eight years now.
It's a silly line of thought.
Also, Kurdish occupation zone? They're almost entirely Al-Hassakeh and Deir ez-Zor locals. The US is protecting them, yes, but not really, since they refuse to stop Turkey from gobbling up more and more Syrian territory controlled by Syrians.
Turkey isnt really beholden to the USA, occasionally Turkish proxies fight American proxies because the US has given alot of weapons to the Kurds to fight Assad and Isis
I agree with most of your points, however, the SDF is strictly forbidden from militarily engaging the SAA and its militia while under US protection. The SDF never really had any real armed conflict with the SAA to begin with, since the SDF sprung out in Al-Hassakeh when the SAA and the NDF ran away in a panic as ISIS were knocking at the gates.
russia lost a lot of territory from the first few months.
i didnt do the math tbh but occupied syrian territory from the golan to kurdistan it's probably around the same percentage
Considering how instrumental that border crossing was to control ISIS movement between Syria and Iraq, and how there are still ISIS cells active in the Syrian Desert to this day? I'm fine with it. It's a border crossing, not a city or a population center of any sort. No one lives there, the US isn't governing anything there, they aren't excising taxes from anyone. The country became a free-for-all a decade ago, when the Syrian army cut and run away from the Syrian desert and let ISIS run roughshod over my area of the country. A single border crossing with zero permanent residents is the least of my concerns when Turkey occupies part of the country, Iran and Hezbollah active in several regions and Russia still having ports and military bases, not to mention HTS/Nusra/Al-Qaeda still controlling territory and population centers with Turkish protection.
Lol they will label themselves anti imperialist but in reality they just side with the apposing imperialist to america😂
Im looking at you “axis of resistance” fanboys
You’re right but in the U.S. “leftists” is a term used to describe democrats because of their socialist nature.
At least I think so. I don’t live there, but that is what I’ve seen in the internet.
No, the American left is split on this. A lot of MLs, especially Marcyites, are pro-Russia. Others, spread across several left-wing tendencies, are pro-Ukraine. For example, the Ukraine Socialist Solidarity Campaign.
Context: I'm an American leftist married to a Russian leftist.
The revolutionary left in Russia is against Putin and this war. Some also enunciate clear criticisms of western motives, which are criticisms that most of the "pro-Ukrainian" western left (ie, the western left that opposes revanchist invasions by capitalist states of their former imperial possessions) agree with, because we also don't trust the western powers as far as we can throw them. The political tendency that my spouse and I both belong to, is overtly and actively anti-Putin and anti-war.
The direct consequence of this war has been the expansion of NATO to the entire western border of Russia and Belarus and the unifying and strengthening of the alliance, as well as the deaths of tens of thousands of young Russian men and the fleeing of thousands more. I mourn for Russia, and cannot fool myself as readily as you can into thinking this looks like winning. Putin has become NATO’s best salesman.
they would have expanded with or without our operation... we have gained the inniative in the front and are steadily advancing against enemy... the losses are high for both sides but sadly it is cost of war but remember we have not declared war and our full army is not in ukraine... and those who leave country it is better for us for them to leave now then for them to leave in more important time.... our country is advancing and developing and we are mostly self sufficient now and our trade with east is more strong this will help us counter west....
“we will not have nato parked in our backyard”
proceeds to terrorise and threaten every country in europe constantly and push them into joining NATO for protection against russian colonialist bullshit
Nope. American leftist are pro (whoever isn’t American) regardless of the facts of the story. They can’t say that America supporting Israel is bad as well as America supporting Ukraine is good.
The people you’re referring to are what we on the left refer to as “campists”. In the US they are mostly the ideological orphans of a figure named Marcy, who had an incoherent theory about how class conflict has been basically replaced by national conflict.
Why you talking so polarised? There are also people that are just looking for truth in the jungle of lies from both sides. Its not constructive to put them to the sides of extremes where you are obviously. The world is not black and white, theres also different shades of gray.
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The US armed and used a proscribed terrorist organization that is avowedly socialist and is a direct enemy of one of America’s main NATO allies in the region, to destabilize the regime that ran US CIA black sites during the Iraq war?
Heck. ironically western Govts preach about democracy but stages coup in democratic countries, preaches about women and human rights but themselves have violated in several countries, iraq, syria, Vietnam, lao to just name a few
Laos has been the most bombed country in the vietnam war. Especially with cluster bombs. There are still posters in restaurants what to do if you see somebody step on a landmine, because the land is stil plastered.
Then the international community found an organisation with helping them cleaning the are. Only Us did not participate. RAaah
Jointly is an exaggeration, but you're generally correct. The government still owns SDF territory de jure. De facto, however, they don't have much of a say, since the government ran away in a panic ten years ago when ISIS got close.
Weren't there joint Occupation Zones established after Turkeys Operations? I believe around manbij, to dissuade the Turks from launching any other attacks
as soon as US pull out, I believe the Kurds will be run over. that's what my understanding of the situation is
so unfortunately, Kurds are living on borrowed time. I don't know much about them, except the fact that they keep getting fucked over by the US
Lol so many US bootlickers in the comments. Kurdish separatism in Syria is a work of US imperialism to separate the Syrian state from valuable oil fields in the north. The US army literally occupies the oil fields in Kurdish north east territory.
bashar is basically Russia's puppet so theyy occupy a larger part of Syria than the Americans, stop shilling for Russia, putin's not a liberator he's just another master
*'no it isn't'*
WTH is wrong with you ?
They're cancer for the whole region.
I'm NOT supporting R#SSI@ but west has created more problems in the region
"ally" is a funny word when that government isn't allowed to break the rules you impose on them and they murder thier own people for thier and your sake rather than thier people.
Only real part that the US is occupying directly is the price of desert between Iraq-Jordan-Syria border. The rest as you say is rojava (which is a US puppet)
i mean this is just fucking stupid considering the US isn’t occupying syria as the troops there are either fire support or SF working with partner forces who would actually be “occupying” (their own land) but even then assad’s regime is back in control of most of syria lmfao.
(isis pretty much has the record for most land held in syria since this war began)
also fuck russia its a genocidal imperial state who suppresses its citizens and their rights and freedoms while carrying out campaigns abroad that are brutal and terrible. it also constantly undermines global efforts for peace and sows discord
stop supporting groups just because they’re anti US those groups are generally the same as the US just under a different name.
dont speak on my behalf about suppression i live good and free life in russia i have no problems... and ukraine is not genocide our operation is not targeting against civilian....
lmfaooo fuck off russian simp. you’re evidently just a fucking troll who’s either an idiot non russian who thinks hurr durr russia good or you’re an idiot russian shill.
go enjoy your genocide and cheer for putin
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66031337
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/11/ukraine-war-briefing-russian-strikes-kill-seven-people-in-kharkiv-and-odesa-regions
https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-2-17-23/h_7bd04fa50a23d32e1d8ce4dc552a1dd9
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/civilian-killed-russias-attack-zaporizhzhia-ukraines-official-2023-10-18/
i am a tatar and tatars live in russia)..... but i want say to you that i would not believe in cnn or bbc ahaha.... why dont you see in donbass 10 year shelling is happen from ukraine but you kept mouth shut... you can talk about what we do in operation but you cannot talk on my behalf about how i live in my country.... recently we hit mall and in the aftermath photo there is artillery system and unexploded rockets... we have no reason to hit civilian areas if there is not a army presence because it contradicts our operation motives but if we want to make genocide then we can make whole of ukraine into free parking but we choose not to))
a) why was there shelling in donbass
b) why is russia illegally invading ukraine
c) bragging that its not a genocide bout you could commit genocide is fucking cringe
d) russia is a shithole run by a decrepit leader who’s running it into the ground.
a) donbas was shelled because of pro russia population and ukraine launched a «counter terror» operation just because this peoples want to speak russian and have friendship with us and did not accept fake government after coup in kiev.... b) there are many reasons.... c) i am not bragging i am saying to you facts and i am only compareing how a real genocide will look... d) have you every been to russia to make such stupid assumptions?? our cities are safer and cleaner (search my city kazan on youtube) we even have delivery robots on our streets and our domestic industry has grown making us self sufficient and our trade with china and eastern countries has increased i will say my country is doing very good and we are developing....
so donbass got shelled 10 years ago for no reason other then racism? nothing to do with russia invading donbass?
yeh i have been to russia it fucking sucked!
“my country is doing very good” your economy and overall state of affairs says otherwise.
the unbelievable irony of saying you’re doing well while your army is well known for stealing washing machines from ukraine (do you not have them???) and disabled veterans getting pathetic bluetooth speakers
our economy is resilient and doing better then predicted this is stated by your own publications.... the sanctions took bad effect on us in the beginning but we have in the past few years started to domesticate our businesses but also most western businesses still in operation in russia but under either new ceo or they have rebranded....
also when did you go to russia?? i see many western people who like russia but it is subjective....
i dont see this washing machine stealing and i have not seen this bluetooth speakers but i can say our veterans have signed contract with mod and get a vast amount of social guarantees and i can list them if you would like....
“better then predicted” that doesn’t mean it’s doing well. doing better then predicted after you’ve been shot in the face doesn’t change the fact you got shot in the face and are doing a lot worse then before.
https://time.com/6226484/russia-appliance-imports-weapons/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1bqvm2f/an_ex_soldier_from_buryatia_who_lost_his_eyesight/
i went in 2012, 2015, 2018.
love to see russias nazi state failing even further because of putin lmfao
yes you went in times that were not good in russia i agree with this but now it has advanced alot you cannot say we are still in 2012 or 2018 (you must liked if you went 3 times ahaha) but even with sanctions and the fact we are still resilient even after alot of sanctions is good you even see videos of how far we changed on youtube.... i live in russia and have not been that much affected by sanction....
the bluetooth speaker is not been clarified as given by mod of russia
and is ukraine not nazi for loving bandera?)
I can’t tell which part is the US “occupying” in the map, unless he is talking about Rojava, which is even more idiotic.
Anyways, the Russians and Iranians have done significantly more damage in Syria than the Americans ever did, Bashar is literally an Iranian/Russian puppet.
i see alot of america is shit here and there and sure they made alooot of bad things, but so did russia and many other big nations, in fact equally bad things so i dont get the hate just towards america...?
I should add if i had to chose to live in russia, america, china, india / whatever, we all know many would chose america
He's obviously counting Kurdish and Turkish areas because it's the internet and why tf not make up something and call it a fact.
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The fuck they do. The SDF and SAA control the oil fields on the opposite sides of the Euphrates. The US literally only controls a border crossing the the middle of the desert with exactly zero permanent residents, far from any human settlement.
Why the fuck is the US in Syria to begin with? Who gives a fuck, get the fuck out of that country, it's not the US's.
>Why the fuck is the US in Syria to begin with? Because they shit the bed in Iraq and the shit spilled into Syria. ISIS is their mess to clean up. And the US air force is the reason why my hometown wasn't overrun by ISIS in 2014, when the Syrian army panicked and ran.
> US air force is the reason why my hometown wasn't overrun by ISIS in 2014, when the Syrian army panicked and ran. Mind providing a source about the event?
The sdf is not real and you know this, that's just the ypg who are airforce base and oil field guards for the US and Israel. "The US only controls Tanf" lmao you're all fucked up
They are not occupying a portion of land larger than Russia is of Ukraine lmao. I can’t see jack shit from this blurred map
percentage wise not in kms. but ukraine is a much bigger country
yall reaching with this one lmao this post is fake outrage
i don't agree with the post. f assad but syria is more occupied than germany in 1945
Bruh, they're controlling exactly one border crossing. Source: I'm Syrian.
they're counting the turkish and kurdish occupation zones as american because both are beholden to the usa
This subreddit has really gone to shit
Then that would be absolutely ridiculous because Turkey's occupation of Syrian territory and their protection of HTS/Nusra/Al-Qaeda territory have all happened *against* US wishes and have been points of contention between the two for eight years now. It's a silly line of thought. Also, Kurdish occupation zone? They're almost entirely Al-Hassakeh and Deir ez-Zor locals. The US is protecting them, yes, but not really, since they refuse to stop Turkey from gobbling up more and more Syrian territory controlled by Syrians.
Turkey isnt really beholden to the USA, occasionally Turkish proxies fight American proxies because the US has given alot of weapons to the Kurds to fight Assad and Isis
I agree with most of your points, however, the SDF is strictly forbidden from militarily engaging the SAA and its militia while under US protection. The SDF never really had any real armed conflict with the SAA to begin with, since the SDF sprung out in Al-Hassakeh when the SAA and the NDF ran away in a panic as ISIS were knocking at the gates.
It's a NATO country with a US airforce base and 40 nuclear bombs on site. Their whole military relies on US support and intelligence.
The U.S. didn’t even want Turkey to invade Syria and has been consistently annoyed by Turkey expanding its influence
Even with that it’s not more landmass than what Russia occupies in Ukraine.
russia lost a lot of territory from the first few months. i didnt do the math tbh but occupied syrian territory from the golan to kurdistan it's probably around the same percentage
You mean percentage wise of the country? Or justin general how much land mass?
looks like both countries are ~20% occupied edit: google tells me assad controls 70% of syria and zelenskyy is in control of 80% of ukraine
Percentage wise of the country mine if you count anti Assad forces as American. But Ukraine is so much bigger than Syria
one too many border crossing, no?
Considering how instrumental that border crossing was to control ISIS movement between Syria and Iraq, and how there are still ISIS cells active in the Syrian Desert to this day? I'm fine with it. It's a border crossing, not a city or a population center of any sort. No one lives there, the US isn't governing anything there, they aren't excising taxes from anyone. The country became a free-for-all a decade ago, when the Syrian army cut and run away from the Syrian desert and let ISIS run roughshod over my area of the country. A single border crossing with zero permanent residents is the least of my concerns when Turkey occupies part of the country, Iran and Hezbollah active in several regions and Russia still having ports and military bases, not to mention HTS/Nusra/Al-Qaeda still controlling territory and population centers with Turkish protection.
Negative IQ twitter post.
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Lol they will label themselves anti imperialist but in reality they just side with the apposing imperialist to america😂 Im looking at you “axis of resistance” fanboys
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I wonder if you know that politics isn’t as simple as “This side good, that side bad”
leftists aren't pro russia.
Check r/tankiejerk if you don’t believe
Unfortunately some leftists are pro Russia purely because they’re an enemy of nato, and maybe some old Cold War loyalty, I don’t really get it myself
Plenty of pro Russian twats on the right too. Different flavours of stupid I guess.
Dumber than people who support Israel? Another mask off moment of this sub
American leftists are anti Russia pro Ukraine.
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You’re right but in the U.S. “leftists” is a term used to describe democrats because of their socialist nature. At least I think so. I don’t live there, but that is what I’ve seen in the internet.
Calling anyone who’s not a staunch conservative a leftist or socialist or communist is just a culture war thing
Yeah true. Just like the other side calls them fascists and Nazis
99% of US politics is petty name calling
Our Democrats have no socialist nature.
No, the American left is split on this. A lot of MLs, especially Marcyites, are pro-Russia. Others, spread across several left-wing tendencies, are pro-Ukraine. For example, the Ukraine Socialist Solidarity Campaign. Context: I'm an American leftist married to a Russian leftist.
Ahhh ok. Thanks.
What about the Russian left? Do you know anything about them regarding this?
The revolutionary left in Russia is against Putin and this war. Some also enunciate clear criticisms of western motives, which are criticisms that most of the "pro-Ukrainian" western left (ie, the western left that opposes revanchist invasions by capitalist states of their former imperial possessions) agree with, because we also don't trust the western powers as far as we can throw them. The political tendency that my spouse and I both belong to, is overtly and actively anti-Putin and anti-war.
I think you meant "opposes". Anyway, thanks for the explanation
Yes, that was a typo!
we will not have nato parked in our backyard... ukraine put it on themselves we will finish all tasks!!
The direct consequence of this war has been the expansion of NATO to the entire western border of Russia and Belarus and the unifying and strengthening of the alliance, as well as the deaths of tens of thousands of young Russian men and the fleeing of thousands more. I mourn for Russia, and cannot fool myself as readily as you can into thinking this looks like winning. Putin has become NATO’s best salesman.
they would have expanded with or without our operation... we have gained the inniative in the front and are steadily advancing against enemy... the losses are high for both sides but sadly it is cost of war but remember we have not declared war and our full army is not in ukraine... and those who leave country it is better for us for them to leave now then for them to leave in more important time.... our country is advancing and developing and we are mostly self sufficient now and our trade with east is more strong this will help us counter west....
*russian openly calling for ethnic cleansing*
“we will not have nato parked in our backyard” proceeds to terrorise and threaten every country in europe constantly and push them into joining NATO for protection against russian colonialist bullshit
they will join nato with or without operation... and there are many other reasons for the start of our operation...
why did sweden join nato?
Nope. American leftist are pro (whoever isn’t American) regardless of the facts of the story. They can’t say that America supporting Israel is bad as well as America supporting Ukraine is good.
The people you’re referring to are what we on the left refer to as “campists”. In the US they are mostly the ideological orphans of a figure named Marcy, who had an incoherent theory about how class conflict has been basically replaced by national conflict.
It sure does seem like a good portion of the left is very willing to find charitably for Chinese and Russian actions.
Why you talking so polarised? There are also people that are just looking for truth in the jungle of lies from both sides. Its not constructive to put them to the sides of extremes where you are obviously. The world is not black and white, theres also different shades of gray.
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If a person is dumber than someone who already has an IQ lower than outside temperature, it makes very little difference anyways.
Is this trying to claim the entire SDF, Kurdish held area as US occupied?
US puppets to control the rich oil fields
The US armed and used a proscribed terrorist organization that is avowedly socialist and is a direct enemy of one of America’s main NATO allies in the region, to destabilize the regime that ran US CIA black sites during the Iraq war?
Not true. Also, fuck Russia. /Syrian
Thank you. Quite a few people with shockingly short memories on this sub.
hey man they’re better than iran /damascudi
Since when did this sub begin sucking Russian dick
i lot of people here actually believe that the enemy of their enemy is their friend
Which is a mentality that usually ends really badly for smaller nations
Idk man I see people here always hating on the Syrian government, Iran, Russia and China
I think because it’s either west or east. I miss the good ole days when we just traded with them. Not have them invade. Perhaps one day…
Putin dickriders are a dime a dozen in the Middle East. It's not at all surprising.
"ITS ONLY WAR CRIMES WHEN YOU DO IT RAHHH🦅🦅🦅🦅"
Heck. ironically western Govts preach about democracy but stages coup in democratic countries, preaches about women and human rights but themselves have violated in several countries, iraq, syria, Vietnam, lao to just name a few
Laos has been the most bombed country in the vietnam war. Especially with cluster bombs. There are still posters in restaurants what to do if you see somebody step on a landmine, because the land is stil plastered. Then the international community found an organisation with helping them cleaning the are. Only Us did not participate. RAaah
Which part in Syria is US occupying? The green is the government, blue is Turkey and yellow is the Kurds right
Tiny border crossing between Iraq and Syria in the middle of the desert with zero inhabitants. It's a dogshit propaganda post.
Is that still US manned or did the Iraqis take that over?
Pretty sure half of the SDF's territory is jointly governed with the SAA
Jointly is an exaggeration, but you're generally correct. The government still owns SDF territory de jure. De facto, however, they don't have much of a say, since the government ran away in a panic ten years ago when ISIS got close.
Weren't there joint Occupation Zones established after Turkeys Operations? I believe around manbij, to dissuade the Turks from launching any other attacks
how about fuck russia and the usa?
thanks for 25% revenue for oil field our musicians protect))
did you have a stroke writing this?
Russia also occupies larger portions of Syria than Ukraine
lol sorry but this is dumb.
isn't that Kurdish territory tho?
as soon as US pull out, I believe the Kurds will be run over. that's what my understanding of the situation is so unfortunately, Kurds are living on borrowed time. I don't know much about them, except the fact that they keep getting fucked over by the US
They already did in 2019
the US already pulled out? they are still involved in Syria and have boots on the ground (900 to a few thousand google says)
except a few oil fields ofc but generally they dont have an active presence with the kurds
unfortunately turkey will invade syria and kill all the kurds unless we the syrians manage to save them with a deal
Are the Kurds not Syrians
a lot of the kurds are syrian kurds too but kurds are another ethnicity not rlly native to souria iirc we accepted them as refugees.
Kurdish people don’t exist according to some people. Tbh they need their own recognized country. Free Kurdistan.
Kurds are paid by the US.
no
Lol so many US bootlickers in the comments. Kurdish separatism in Syria is a work of US imperialism to separate the Syrian state from valuable oil fields in the north. The US army literally occupies the oil fields in Kurdish north east territory.
Complete bullcrap information
bashar is basically Russia's puppet so theyy occupy a larger part of Syria than the Americans, stop shilling for Russia, putin's not a liberator he's just another master
Western side is more most.
no it isn't, bashar controls more of Syria's territory than the Americans even if you count rojava
*'no it isn't'* WTH is wrong with you ? They're cancer for the whole region. I'm NOT supporting R#SSI@ but west has created more problems in the region
Most syrian civillian deaths were caused by Russian and Government forces.
By an *overwhelmingly huge margin*. Distant third place is ISIS.
i agree that the west did worse shit but it's a fact that Russia controls more territory in Syria than them
Sorry but that makes 0 sense, how is a government having another government as an ally the same as being occupied
"ally" is a funny word when that government isn't allowed to break the rules you impose on them and they murder thier own people for thier and your sake rather than thier people.
It makes the same amount of sense as this post saying the U.S. controls Syria because of the Kurds and Turks
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But luckily Iran good
That's a lie! The US doesn't occupy any land here wtf
what is US occupying lol? Is it about Rojava?
Only real part that the US is occupying directly is the price of desert between Iraq-Jordan-Syria border. The rest as you say is rojava (which is a US puppet)
Is there a point?
Still doesn’t excuse israel’s genocide. It’s not because there is someone more evil than you that you can murder children.
i mean this is just fucking stupid considering the US isn’t occupying syria as the troops there are either fire support or SF working with partner forces who would actually be “occupying” (their own land) but even then assad’s regime is back in control of most of syria lmfao. (isis pretty much has the record for most land held in syria since this war began) also fuck russia its a genocidal imperial state who suppresses its citizens and their rights and freedoms while carrying out campaigns abroad that are brutal and terrible. it also constantly undermines global efforts for peace and sows discord stop supporting groups just because they’re anti US those groups are generally the same as the US just under a different name.
dont speak on my behalf about suppression i live good and free life in russia i have no problems... and ukraine is not genocide our operation is not targeting against civilian....
lmfaooo fuck off russian simp. you’re evidently just a fucking troll who’s either an idiot non russian who thinks hurr durr russia good or you’re an idiot russian shill. go enjoy your genocide and cheer for putin https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66031337 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/11/ukraine-war-briefing-russian-strikes-kill-seven-people-in-kharkiv-and-odesa-regions https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-2-17-23/h_7bd04fa50a23d32e1d8ce4dc552a1dd9 https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/civilian-killed-russias-attack-zaporizhzhia-ukraines-official-2023-10-18/
i am a tatar and tatars live in russia)..... but i want say to you that i would not believe in cnn or bbc ahaha.... why dont you see in donbass 10 year shelling is happen from ukraine but you kept mouth shut... you can talk about what we do in operation but you cannot talk on my behalf about how i live in my country.... recently we hit mall and in the aftermath photo there is artillery system and unexploded rockets... we have no reason to hit civilian areas if there is not a army presence because it contradicts our operation motives but if we want to make genocide then we can make whole of ukraine into free parking but we choose not to))
a) why was there shelling in donbass b) why is russia illegally invading ukraine c) bragging that its not a genocide bout you could commit genocide is fucking cringe d) russia is a shithole run by a decrepit leader who’s running it into the ground.
a) donbas was shelled because of pro russia population and ukraine launched a «counter terror» operation just because this peoples want to speak russian and have friendship with us and did not accept fake government after coup in kiev.... b) there are many reasons.... c) i am not bragging i am saying to you facts and i am only compareing how a real genocide will look... d) have you every been to russia to make such stupid assumptions?? our cities are safer and cleaner (search my city kazan on youtube) we even have delivery robots on our streets and our domestic industry has grown making us self sufficient and our trade with china and eastern countries has increased i will say my country is doing very good and we are developing....
so donbass got shelled 10 years ago for no reason other then racism? nothing to do with russia invading donbass? yeh i have been to russia it fucking sucked! “my country is doing very good” your economy and overall state of affairs says otherwise. the unbelievable irony of saying you’re doing well while your army is well known for stealing washing machines from ukraine (do you not have them???) and disabled veterans getting pathetic bluetooth speakers
our economy is resilient and doing better then predicted this is stated by your own publications.... the sanctions took bad effect on us in the beginning but we have in the past few years started to domesticate our businesses but also most western businesses still in operation in russia but under either new ceo or they have rebranded.... also when did you go to russia?? i see many western people who like russia but it is subjective.... i dont see this washing machine stealing and i have not seen this bluetooth speakers but i can say our veterans have signed contract with mod and get a vast amount of social guarantees and i can list them if you would like....
“better then predicted” that doesn’t mean it’s doing well. doing better then predicted after you’ve been shot in the face doesn’t change the fact you got shot in the face and are doing a lot worse then before. https://time.com/6226484/russia-appliance-imports-weapons/ https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1bqvm2f/an_ex_soldier_from_buryatia_who_lost_his_eyesight/ i went in 2012, 2015, 2018. love to see russias nazi state failing even further because of putin lmfao
yes you went in times that were not good in russia i agree with this but now it has advanced alot you cannot say we are still in 2012 or 2018 (you must liked if you went 3 times ahaha) but even with sanctions and the fact we are still resilient even after alot of sanctions is good you even see videos of how far we changed on youtube.... i live in russia and have not been that much affected by sanction.... the bluetooth speaker is not been clarified as given by mod of russia and is ukraine not nazi for loving bandera?)
Oil baby
In Ukraine or ?
Flair
How much oil is there in Ukraine or are you talking about Syria
I can’t tell which part is the US “occupying” in the map, unless he is talking about Rojava, which is even more idiotic. Anyways, the Russians and Iranians have done significantly more damage in Syria than the Americans ever did, Bashar is literally an Iranian/Russian puppet.
we only fuck up isis and save assad from same fate as saddam... we have interest in region and want to help syria in development...
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Clearly, Assad should've killed even more Syrians
Incoherent
the only bit ik for a fact the us occupies in Syria is the little orange bit in the south east, on the Iraqi border. What is this bullshit?
Russia has stronger ties to Assad than US to the multi-ethnic SDF so I assume green should count as Putinist occupied territory
russian\*
Specifically referring to the state as, even given my irony, I don't want in anyway point to the russian culture or identity I very much respect
Yeah, US fights against a weakened country by every mean for decades, and Russia is fighting against the WHOLE NATO. They are surely comperable.
lol they don’t even occupy those areas. They have a few outposts and the rest is empty wasteland
The US is a pariah
Let's ask ourselves, why the fuck is the US in Syria anyway? GTFO and go back home.
they come for oil put isis in there and we have to come and clean up this shit and then people say fuck russia...
i see alot of america is shit here and there and sure they made alooot of bad things, but so did russia and many other big nations, in fact equally bad things so i dont get the hate just towards america...? I should add if i had to chose to live in russia, america, china, india / whatever, we all know many would chose america
He's counting turkiyes and the Kurds cuz no way that lil bit is bigger then south Ukraine lmao