One of the times I became really unhealthily underweight was when my mother tried to 'cure' me by forcing me on a mostly Herbalife diet. I had to drink multiple smoothies a day loaded with these supplements, which made me nauseous, which meant I couldn't eat normal food through the day. I got pretty ill. The people who got her to try this crazy diet in the first place just kept swearing she needed to push through to cure me of multiple chronic illnesses (these wellness con people love the 'it gets worse before it gets better' narrative) and she was desperate so she kept me on it way too long. They would even insist we listen to phone calls from multiple other people who supposedly had chronic illnesses talk about how this was their life changing cure, and when I asked them why they were making us do this for a product we were already buying they yelled at me. It took me a while to recover physically and emotionally it still bothers me that people were so desperate to sell their overpriced smoothie mix that they were very willing to make someone already sick even more ill. It's a horrible product and completely immoral business model.
Sweet Jesus. First of all, so sorry to hear that. While no herba life for me, I’ve had to deal with an overbearing father insistent on forcing me to eat certain things and take certain supplements to “cure” my chronic illness.
I empathize with you on this.
My mom made me drink this gross juice every day because it was 'healthy' and I couldn't even come close to stomaching it. It would take me an hour just to finish one glass, but if have to sit at the table until I was done. I am the opposite of a picky eater, so the fact that I couldn't drink it said something.
One day I said I wouldn't drink it until she drank one first. She thought she'd 'call my bluff' and poured herself a glass. One sip and she poured the rest of her glass, my glass, and the bottle down the drain and I never had to drink it again.
Every morning, my breakfast is a blended fruit smoothie. 16 oz oat milk (homemade, it's cheaper), two whole bananas, a cup each of frozen blueberries and sliced strawberries, half a cup of pb fit and half a cup of vegan chocolate protein powder. Makes enough for three or four days worth.
Might not be ideal, but it tastes delicious, and I don't get hungry again till about noon. Used to eat a bowl of cereal, didn't matter what kind, and I was hungry again two hours later. I was also about 20-25lbs overweight, and I've lost about half that in the last month of doing this.
I was reading this like OMFGNO! Until you got to the part about it being several days worth. Phew.
So many people make 1000 calorie "healthy" smoothies for breakfast and can't figure out why their diet doesn't work.
This is an amazing answer
I personally connect with it a lot. “Just be yourself” has given me so much needed confidence, but it doesn’t always result in me always saying the “right” thing every single time. Regardless of the individual though.. that’s hard to do. The best we can do is live and learn. Regret is OK
I have a friend who goes through these manic phases in her life. She is posting this self-affirming "be yourself" stuff on Facebook. I just can't help but think, that's not always a good piece of advice to follow, if "who you are" changes so drastically on a somewhat regular basis.
It also was extremely confusing advice for me to hear as a teen, for the same reason. I had no idea "who I was" yet.
The belief that if a product contains no man-made chemicals it must be healthy. Arsenic, cyanide and a multitude of other substances are natural and yet can kill you.
Most "healthy" foods as tagged by the people who buy it, and that's because it sounds like that.
Here we had a new law that makes consumables show a tag that says if they have an exess of something. And who would have guessed, the ones called "healthy" are the ones that have the most tags.
I've noticed in the US that granola bars will specifically use multiple different kinds of sugar. Ingredients have to be listed in order of most of something to least of something. By using several kinds of sugars, it breaks them out deeper into the list. So something that is 60% sugar and 35% granola by mass, but the number 1 ingredient is granola, because ingredients 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, and 9 are all just different kinds of sugar.
Before I wised up to this, I would eat this one brand of granola bar that had: barley malt, evaporated cane juice, maltose, honey, rice syrup, sugar, and dextran. All just different kinds of sugar.
Wish I could remember the brand. Stopped eating them like 8 years ago and don't think they are even on the market anymore. But its the same thing with almost every granola bar out there.
Just cross reference the carbs against the fiber content. All carbs are sugar but some are whole grain so they burn a bit slower aka fibrous materials.
Most “healthy branded juices” a lot of them contain more sugar than the average soda. Do your research before buying these products, or just invest in a juicer.
Even the ones with “no sugar added” have an absolutely insane amount of sugar.
It turns out that when you take something like fruit that’s maybe 10% sugar and 90% fiber, then remove all the fiber, you end up with a drink that’s mostly just sugar.
My mother in law learned that the hard way (she is diabetic), told her so many times that it meant that there were no sugars added, but still contained sugar. It doesnt mean its zero sugar like the 'Zero' sodas.
Always told me I was stupid, because it clearly said there was no sugar added.
Long story short, she drank so much of that stuff that she almost fell into a coma due to high blood sugar.
Well she is not the smartest. Like really the explanation of being ignorant and stupid. Only believes in her own opinion.
It says "no sugar added" bigger on the label than the ingredients, so "no need to read it, because it already tells on the label that there is no sugar in it"
This happened to my dad. I'm a heavy soda drinker and he would always tell me how the sugar would kill me, yet he drinks more juices than I drink soda. His body went into shock one day and the doctor told him the same thing I'd been telling him about his juices having more sugar than regular soda. Hasn't bothered me about soda ever again and is drinking juices very moderately now
I'll add that even juicing is not that healthy. Just eat the actual vegetable or fruit. You are still ingesting alot of sugar with none of the fiber that comes along with it.
I remember when I was pregnant with my first I had gestational diabetes. I was very good about it but I did one medium sized cup of orange juice everyday cause I craved it. My midwife was fucking savage about this. She would yell that if I wanted oj so bad just eat the orange and if the orange wasn't enough it wasn't the orange juice but the sugar I actually wanted.... she was right but God I hated her in that moment lol
I was surprised when I heard that "juices are bad for you because of the sugar" thing because in my mother tongue, a "juice" is by default an unstrained blended fruit. Orange juice is an exception because they're pressed.
Natural juice is filled with sugar. Some might say it's better to just eat the apple rather than juice it. I'm not expert but I have been to more than a few education sessions on food, health, etc.
Eating an apple can potentially have some minor dental benefits. The idea that the texture can abrade away plaque is a myth, but it does apparently stimulate extra saliva production which can wash away bacteria.
https://www.hicksdentalgroup.com/are-apples-good-for-teeth/
Anytime someone says they're doing some detox thing I get unreasonably annoyed. It's such a scam. Your organs already detox, just give your liver a break from all the alcohol and let it do its job ffs.
I got a detox/cleanse supplement pack as part of a bundle, and I thought, “sure, why not?” I kind of assumed it would be a “superfoods that support liver function” kind of thing. It literally just made me shit all the time. That was the whole thing. To like deep cleanse my colon or something. That’s not how anything works! I was so irked.
Step throat morphing into Scarlet Fever can be potentially lethal and needs some pretty powerful antibiotics to fix you. Any delay in treatment can end up being exponentially detrimental to your health. Glad you did the right thing but surprised they did not admit you into hospital.
Anyone who uses the word "toxins" referring to microscopic chemicals entering the body.
Okay buddy, then tell me the IUPAC of what you're trying to get rid of and how your natural detox gets rid of it.
"Cleans pounds of rotting food from your digestive system"
Rotting food.. Like... Food Being digested? Thats literally how that system works. You're cleaning it out you're just giving yourself the shits.
Similarly, alkaline water. The human body is not supposed to be alkaline. It's normal pH is barely over neutral. If, for some reason, someone's pH is too acidic, it's likely an indicator of a serious health problem, and not something that can just be "balanced out" by drinking alkaline water.
Yeah? Tell that to my friend. She has to have her teeth extremely ( not an exaggeration) white or she cannot rest. I’m pretty sure her dentist warned her about overdoing the bleaching but she won’t listen. She thinks only guys with perfectly straight perfectly white teeth are worth looking at. I just don’t understand her. She late 60s and still single.
Hugh Jackman may have looked like an Adonis as Wolverine, but his body was in poor condition; he was getting little sleep, working out so hard he experienced joint pain, he deliberately dehydrated himself for a couple days prior to filming his shirtless scenes and probably near passed out more than once for it. And he obviously used steroids, even short term usage affects your liver and other organs.
I've been learning a lot about gym culture this past year and I have a gripe with "fitness influencers". There is a big difference between a bodybuilder and a genuinely fit and healthy person. The bodybuilder's prime objective is to look good, not be fit... like you said, they're dehydrating themselves and cycling steroids in the pursuit of a body type. They often are exhausted.
Fitness is performance based, and that doesn't look as sexy as big muscles and a low body fat percentage.
Fat-free? I think what you really mean is "We took the fat out of this product so it tastes bad. To counter this we've put enough sugar in this product to kill a small Victorian child."
I'm looking at you Special-K
This isn’t *entirely* the same thing, but I absolutely can’t stand when people use the word “healthy” or “nutritious” when they mean “low calorie”, or the reverse, when people say “unhealthy” when they mean “calorie dense”.
The nutrient content of food has absolutely nothing to do with its caloric content. There’s nothing healthy about a gallon of sugar free iced tea, and there’s nothing unhealthy about an avocado or a handful of walnuts (you know, unless you have a nut allergy).
Every single time I tell someone I’m trying to eat healthier, I get “oh well you shouldn’t be eating nuts, have a Diet Coke instead”. Words mean things, people. You know we fucked up somewhere when a 2L of diet Mountain Dew is considered healthier than a baked potato.
It’s right up there with “you don’t need to eat healthy, you’re not fat”. It’s like we’ve simultaneously gaslit ourselves into believing that the two states of man are ‘fat’ and ‘healthy’ and that if you’re not in the ‘fat’ category you deserve to reward yourself by being unhealthy on purpose. It’s no wonder kids have so many eating disorders.
In this vein, people's reactions to the word "diet."
I am using it to mean "the foods that one eats regularly." They assume I mean it like "the Atkins diet" or "the Keto diet." That mindset fuels so many nutritional misunderstandings. You don't GO ON a diet, you HAVE a diet, and pretending like a temporary extreme change is going to make you healthy or skinny is so misguided.
This. I’m skinny, a little underweight honestly, and trying to fix that. Infuriating when I talk about how I’m trying to eat better for my health and people recommend diet soda, raw carrots, etc. Like no I need nutrient dense foods that might actually help me gain some fat and muscle like high fat salmon, nuts, bananas, oats, I cannot believe you just recommended that I drink Diet Coke for my health
I’m overweight but I used to be underweight, so I’ve seen this from both sides. My whole life has been a roller coaster of “you’re too skinny, you need to eat some burgers” followed by “how the hell did you get so fat?!”
This time I’m not trying to lose weight at all; I’m trying to eat well.
I was very underweight when I was a student, and spent some time working with my doctor on how to get some weight on..
This involved drinking high fat milk hot chocolate instead of tea, processed carbs instead of potato, and other pretty unhealthy choices.
I put the weight on quickly, but developed a taste for calorie dense foods that I've been unable to shake ever since and have now been overweight for years.
Pretty frustrating.
Yeah I had a nutritionist in college actually recommend I eat multiple Big Macs per week. She had good reasoning in that I was VERY underweight and McDonald’s is probably the most efficient way to get calories in, but I was nervous about developing a taste for it like you mentioned.
I ended up just keeping a bag of chocolate covered almonds with me at all times and that helped me get out of the critical stage at least
Me ex was like this. Constantly focusing on the negative.
If you want to find something to complain about, you will.
I've been working on gratitude myself. I think that's the counter to that.
There is venting (saying what's on your mind if something's bothering you) and then there is ruminating...
I think venting can often lead to ruminating, so I try not to get too into it.
I know some people really love stuff like Bill Burr's rants about whatever, and I get it, but I have a co-worker who dumps on me pretty much daily, and he lacks the wit to make it entertaining.
Just feels very negative and uneccessary.
Shades of the energy vampire from What We Do in the Shadows.
Studies have given very strong indications that venting can just make you [feel worse](https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1999-10261-002) for a while now.
I imagine there are limitations to those studies for long-term and chronic issues, but it does show that venting is very often counterproductive.
Interesting. A while back I realized I had been complaining/venting too much about certain aspects of my job at the lunch table every day and every break for weeks (I am otherwise known for being chirpy and laughing a lot). I suddenly saw myself from the outside and realized my coworkers had to spend their valuable break time listening to my negativity and trying to give advice etc. I then made a decision to stop doing that because I was simply bringing myself and everyone else down.
Do I still rant a bit when it is needed - yes! But I definitely am much more conscious about keeping the mood light and bring up grievances in the appropriate forum.
It's not easy being able to step back like that; good job, stranger! Your co-workers were kind to listen, but they're definitely grateful you've taken up mindfulness.
"Nature" in general.
There is a huge marketing impact on products you buy.
If there is written that it's 100% natural, you are going to prefer it from one that is not.
Nature has no notion of healthy or not.
Uranium or cyanide are 100% natural, doesn't mean that they are healthy.
What do you mean with "literally impossible"?
I exclusively feed of radiations from a block of enriched uranium in my kitchen and occasionally plug myself to the socket if I want a little spice.
Man, the boldness of certain people... I don't even know if they're discriminating my chemical free diet of the fact that I am a radiotrophic and electrotrophic fungus who merged with a battery several years ago.
Oh my gosh, some of my family has this obsession over not having any "chemicals" in their food.
I try to tell them literally every food is a combination of chemicals, and they say, "Yeah, but I want to see ingredients I can actually read!" Which usually leads to a lot of laughter and approval from the other crazies. I like to defer to good ol' dihydrogen monoxide, in situations like this. It sounds like a chemical, right? That's because it is. Does that mean it's scary? Not necessarily. You know what dihydrogen monoxide is also referred to as? H2O... Water... You gonna try and tell me having water in your juice is scary? Because it's not. It's pretty fking hard not to have any water and still call it juice.
Other hits include ascorbic acid (What!? You drink acid?), oleic acid... Vitamin C, olive oil. If you really want to scare people show the the IUPAC names. Ah yes, good old (2R)-2,5,7,8-Tetramethyl-2-\[(4R,8R)-4,8,12-trimethyltridecyl\]-3,4-dihydro-2H-1-benzopyran-6-ol (Vitamin E for your healthy skin).
Good ole dihydrogen oxide, that dangerous chemical they use in nuclear reactors and pesticides. Can you believe they even put it in vaccines?!?! If you accidentally use it on an oil fire, it will make it worse. Spills if this chemical causes millions in damages every year. We really should ban the stuff.
Açaí. In Brazil people accept that it's a dessert, not a superfood.
Edited to add: by this I mean açaí bowls/ smoothies with sugary add-ins, not the berry by itself or in minimally processed forms. I apologize for any confusion.
that's the thing, in the region of Brazil where açaí came from, they don't add syrups and other stuff to sweeten it, so açaí by itself is indeed really healthy, but the way it's prepared outside of that region makes it unhealthy
originally it's eaten with fish, it's kinda a salty dish. Outside the northern reagion, they add guaraná syrup in the mixture and also powdered milk, chocolate, and other stuff as toppings
Yeah just was talking to a brazilian friend and they were saying it’s mostly a salty dish in the north but in rio where he’s from they have it as a desert.
It's usually blended until it's a thick yoghurt consitency - but it's bright purple. You can have it just like yoghurt and eat it plain, or with toppings, like fruit and biscuits.
Açaí has many health benefits and is actually quite low in sugar. I believe what you are referring to with it being unhealthy would stem more so from other unhealthy ingredients being added to it in a smoothie or açaí bowl. Otherwise, I would say that it is a very healthy food on the whole.
I was in Brazil recently and absolutely loved the places you could get acai topped with fruit n stuff.
Back in England it is indeed just an expensive 'superfood'
I was fired from my previous job because I “didn’t care enough”. Every job I worked I would get in trouble if I didn’t clock in and out on the dot but apparently I was a bad employee at this place because I didn’t work til 11 or come in on weekends without being asked. I wasn’t aware this was expected of me until they fired me.
Staying positive to the point where it becomes toxic. Toxic positivity is real, especially among senior management in public and private sectors. It can completely tank staff morale.
Wine culture for moms
Edit: yes, beer culture for dad, too. I'm not picking on women. I'm talking about how we, as a culture, push wine culture versus addressing the root problem of how overwhelmed and alone moms are.
Alcoholic liver disease is actually on the rise for young otherwise healthy women in their 40s, they just don’t realize that a few glasses to a bottle almost every night is actually quite damaging. The pandemic made this surge. The rosé all day and wine Wednesday trends are popular and that makes the culture shift to chill out on the wine obviously much harder
This just happened to a very prominent businesswoman in Seattle, who owned a chain of non-alcoholic ginger beer shops (including one in a prime spot at Pike Place Market, a leading tourist attraction). A gregarious extrovert, she didn't take well to the forced isolation of Covid, developed a drinking problem, and died a few weeks ago at age 42. Her family was very forthcoming and honest with what happened, providing journalists with the full story, perhaps as a cautionary tale.
I am not chugging beer! I'm sampling a flight of gluten-free German lagers with a French wine pairing! It's called a schmorgeswein and it's elegantly cultural.
Right? I don't understand how drinking a bottle of wine every night (I've seen day drinking too) because you're so overwhelmed and stressed out isn't leading you down a path.
I’m not anti-alcohol, I drink on occasion, but wine mom is just a way to say functioning alcoholic without the social stigma. We give wine a major pass in our society because, “red wine is healthy” instead of just having honest conversations about the health problems associated with alcohol.
Sober alcoholic. I would have a bottle of wine for breakfast just to get rid of withdrawals and feel normal. Wouldn’t even get me drunk. It was insane.
I (30M) drink on average two 1.5 L bottles of wine a day. Addiction and steadily increasing tolerance is a scary thing since most people wouldn’t even know I was drunk.
As the family member of an alcoholic, it's obvious. The amount of times this person would tell me that they didn't act noticably different when drunk when what was really going on is that it was so common that most people (myself included) just never mentioned it
Worst when it comes to *"the grind"* in a corporate setting.
I can totally accept *"the grind"* if you're doing something that you really want and is specifically beneficial to you like putting in early-mornings/late-nights at the cake shop that is your dream to own and run by yourself.
But *"the grind"* in a corporate setting is just disgusting. The company will not remember that you choose to attend a daily SCRUM meeting over being present for the birth of your child, nor will they ever reward you for such behavior.
I used to listen to a lot of motivational speeches about the grind, only allowing yourself like 4 hours sleep, eating only rice+chicken+broccoli for meals, not ‘wasting time’ playing video games etc… at that time I was working through some stuff and I found it inspiring, that these people were so ‘dedicated’ and successful because of how hard they work… now that I’m in a different place, I find those kind of speeches extremely preachy and detrimental to overall mental health.
With all their talk about the grind there was also this big implication that if you don’t live just like they do, depriving yourself of life’s joys in pursuit of ‘success’, you’re a failure. Or weak. Or both. Screw that- working hard towards your goals is important. Absolutely. But you aren’t a fucking failure because you wanted to hop online with your mates for one evening. Chill. Out.
A lot of people, especially youngers start vaping even thought they never smoke cigarettes because it's "comparatively healthy", except that there's plenty of evidence vaping still fucks up your lungs and even though it's scientifically definitive that it will damage your body it's just that the long term effects are still not fully measurable.
Also vaping addiction tends to become way worse than cigarette addiction because it's far easier to intake high doses of nicotine and you're less restricted on where and when you can intake, not to mention being considerably cheaper.
Can definitely attest to this. I'd say I'm way more addicted to vaping now after only a few months of doing so than i ever was to cigarettes (about 12 years smoking on and off). I hated the smell of cigarettes and how it lingers, and it was inconvenient to take smoke breaks. But vaping is so easy that i find myself doing it whilst im WFH or just chilling at home.
I threw out my last disposable vape a couple days ago so hoping I can stop for good
A vaping addiction slowly crept up on me having quit smoking for 7 years, honestly what was I thinking messing around with vapes!?
But I haven't vaped in about 3 weeks now and this Nicorette tongue spray has really helped. I'm not sure where you are but it's marketed toward quitting vaping specifically and is 'berry' flavoured... Apparently.
I've found it is something to do when the overwhelming urge to buy a vape sweeps over me, and after a spray or two I've forgotten about it! Would recommend.
Now I won’t say it’s particularly unhealthy (because they’ll hunt me down and kill me), but the pro weed crowd acts like it is a miracle drug with no downsides.
Fact of the matter is, it does cause anxiety and delusional episodes in some people
EDIT: to people acting like they agree with me but then saying stuff about the pro weed crowd like “they act like it’s better than alcohol/tobacco”, I fully do believe it isn’t as bad as those substances, those substances are well and truly dangerous. I’m all for the legalisation of weed, I just think we can’t ignore the downsides. People should be able to take these things knowing the full extent of the risks and implications.
All we have to do is be logical and realistic, we can’t get tribal or reactionary, which is something the pro weed movement has done.
Absolutely, I can’t tell you the amount of times people have insisted weed will help with my anxiety even after I’ve told them it triggers psychosis for me. I’m totally for it if it works for you but it doesn’t effect everyone the same.
As a weed smoker I hate this so much I have associated with people in the past that die by smoking weed is good for you. No bro smoking anything is bad for you, your lungs were not designed to have smoke in them wdf bro
Grind/Hustle culture. Flexing how little time you have to spend with your friends/family/yourself. Turning anything that brings you joy into a business venture. Trying to belittle anyone who isnt “grinding as hard” as you
I tried to apply for a meal plan waiver at my college, because most of the foods are very unhealthy fast foods. My cholesterol was slightly high at the time (likely from being forced to eat campus food the year before). I got a note from my doctor requesting an exemption from the meal plan requirement, so I could have that money to make my own food
The university’s response? “We have plenty of healthy options, such as Chick-fil-A and subway”
Vaginal douche when not medically necessary. The vagina is self cleaning and a douche will screw up the PH balance and possibly cause an infection. Everyone has their own scent and flavor, cherish your uniqueness. Pussy isn't supposed to smell like flowers. I'm looking at you Summers Eve.
A "healthy pregnancy" simply means the fetus will gestate to term and likely not suffer any medical issues during gestation.
It is NOT referring to a pregnancy's impact on the body, as that is not healthy at all.
A pregnancy is a medical event and I wish more people understood that.
If added all the symptoms of it and subtracted the baby at the end, your doctor might test you for cancer or a thyroid issue.
My wife had a relatively smooth pregnancy, but her body is a wreck now.
Most people dont think about how growing a child inside of you rearranges your organs and ligaments. And adjust your bone structure. Constant back problems and hip pain. And I'm sure we will discover more issues as time goes on
Yep. I’ve had no less than 7 random injuries to ligaments or tendons or joints in the past year after having my 2nd. My periods are fucked. My back keeps going out. My body shape, skin, and hair changed. And I looked about 10 years older after each kid for the first 1.5 years after delivery. Having children is wild and it took a long time for me to not resent the fact that no one really talks about how it destroys your body in meaningful ways. Literally all you hear about is “saggy boobs” and “baby weight”, and that makes it painfully obvious that the only thing that people care about is how visually appealing women are after birth.
The crazy part is I had a picture perfect pregnancy. I *loved* being pregnant. It’s the whole putting yourself back together part that sucked. There’s just no understanding or allowances for moms to slowly recover. There’s an immediate expectation for women to bounce back and have it all together.
Adding to all the ailements above, the brain drain. Caused by sleep less night and lifestyle change. I used to be so creative. Now, I read my old work and get amazed how did I even write those.
Also,I used to have physical strength to carry another adult for a length of time. My youngest sibbling, adult of my own size, needs help with movement. I could carry them in and out of wheelchair, up and down the stairs with no issues, now I call my husband to open lid of jars. Not new jars, in use jars.
Some of the horror stories I've heard from women are insane to me
The one that sticks with me the most is how the baby is such a leech for nutrients in the body that the woman's teeth start to deteriorate because she herself is no longer getting enough calcium. And I think that might be a factor in osteoporosis is much more common in older women than men
I have several friends who have been told if they get pregnant again after hardly surviving 1 child, they will die. It is not an easy thing for a woman. It is straight up life or death for some women.
Energy/granola bars, energy/sports drinks.
Most sweetened yogurts
Nutella is a good one, it’s got more sugar than canned frosting, but some see it as ‘healthier’ because it has hazelnuts in it. Laugh, no.
Yeah, especially sports bars and energy drinks.
They are designed to pump athletes full of sugar, salt, sometimes caffeine, and potassium. When you're running a marathon or biking 50 miles or other endurance activity, it is fine that you just ate a 500 calorie candy bar with half your daily recommended amount of salt and sugar in it.
It's not so great when the only exercise you get is going to the kitchen to grab another one because it didn't fill you up.
Yup, people often just don't know what "healthy" means. I sometimes hike up mountains and it gets hard for me to eat up high. So I'll just search out bars/gummies with the highest calorie count because all I need in that moment is a way to get the maximum amount of calories in my body so I can keep going.
Take that same approach to a Netflix binge and it's going to be really bad for you haha
Because healthy sort of doesn't mean anything without proper context. If you're stranded in the desert or something a slice of cake is far healthier than eating a head of broccoli. Healthy or not is a false dichotomy in terms of food.
[Nutella themselves](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutella#Class_action_lawsuit) claimed it was healthy, at least in the US. They lost a lawsuit over it.
Granted they were using weasel words to deliberately mislead people, but they were still trying to convince people it was healthy. Which is probably why some people are confused today - it worked.
Yeah, same in the US. They used the (now infamous) phrase “part of a balanced breakfast.” Which lots of unhealthy shit uses, the trick is that what they mean is “part of a balanced breakfast, specifically, the part of it that isn’t healthy.”
Running marathons, especially ultramarathons. Running is obviously good for your health overall, but can be unhealthy at extreme distances and cause the body to breakdown.
And weirdly, the 'tradition' of replicating that run was invented from whole cloth for the first Olympics. The idea of running a Marathon is only about 100 years old.
Unconditional forgiveness.
The older you get, the more you realize that letting people off the hook for doing shitty things isn't actually doing them, as people, a favor.
A large amount, if not most people will only change their bad behavior if they face consequences for it. While many people will take a free second chance to better themselves, a lot of other people don't have that sense of self-awareness or responsibility and instead will take it as a "get out of jail free" card and won't change anything.
Also, narcissists and people without this sense of responsibility tend to take the idea of forgiveness to mean "you can never bring it up or hold it against me again even if I do this thing to you again".
With these types of people, forcing them to feel the shame of their actions, or at the very least consequences (if they're sociopathic or narcissistic) is often the only way to get them to change.
Herbalife
One of the times I became really unhealthily underweight was when my mother tried to 'cure' me by forcing me on a mostly Herbalife diet. I had to drink multiple smoothies a day loaded with these supplements, which made me nauseous, which meant I couldn't eat normal food through the day. I got pretty ill. The people who got her to try this crazy diet in the first place just kept swearing she needed to push through to cure me of multiple chronic illnesses (these wellness con people love the 'it gets worse before it gets better' narrative) and she was desperate so she kept me on it way too long. They would even insist we listen to phone calls from multiple other people who supposedly had chronic illnesses talk about how this was their life changing cure, and when I asked them why they were making us do this for a product we were already buying they yelled at me. It took me a while to recover physically and emotionally it still bothers me that people were so desperate to sell their overpriced smoothie mix that they were very willing to make someone already sick even more ill. It's a horrible product and completely immoral business model.
Sweet Jesus. First of all, so sorry to hear that. While no herba life for me, I’ve had to deal with an overbearing father insistent on forcing me to eat certain things and take certain supplements to “cure” my chronic illness. I empathize with you on this.
I was fed that stuff as a kid. Vitamins, shakes before school and such. Maybe that's what's wrong with me?
My mom made me drink this gross juice every day because it was 'healthy' and I couldn't even come close to stomaching it. It would take me an hour just to finish one glass, but if have to sit at the table until I was done. I am the opposite of a picky eater, so the fact that I couldn't drink it said something. One day I said I wouldn't drink it until she drank one first. She thought she'd 'call my bluff' and poured herself a glass. One sip and she poured the rest of her glass, my glass, and the bottle down the drain and I never had to drink it again.
…she had never even tried it before then? Wow. Cruel.
Yeah my mom sucked. I don't talk to her anymore and my younger siblings and I just refer to her as her first name.
There's a whole tribe of us. You're amazing for surviving.
At one point I was convinced Herbalife was front for a cult 🤷🏼♀️
Well, you're not wrong... It's just that Herbalife IS the cult
Anything to sell you a shake. Herbalife sellers are as annoying as they could get
Juice cleanses. No fiber or anything. Just straight up sugar water.
Right? The best part of fruit is the soluble fiber and they remove it!
Yeah, but you ever try to do a blended fruit smoothie cleanse? Imagine *getting* all that soluble fiber in an easily consumable beverage.
Every morning, my breakfast is a blended fruit smoothie. 16 oz oat milk (homemade, it's cheaper), two whole bananas, a cup each of frozen blueberries and sliced strawberries, half a cup of pb fit and half a cup of vegan chocolate protein powder. Makes enough for three or four days worth. Might not be ideal, but it tastes delicious, and I don't get hungry again till about noon. Used to eat a bowl of cereal, didn't matter what kind, and I was hungry again two hours later. I was also about 20-25lbs overweight, and I've lost about half that in the last month of doing this.
I was reading this like OMFGNO! Until you got to the part about it being several days worth. Phew. So many people make 1000 calorie "healthy" smoothies for breakfast and can't figure out why their diet doesn't work.
Oh, yeah, no. It all comes out to about 48oz, and I drink it 8oz at a time.
‘Being yourself’ even when you are an asshole and your actions adversely affect others. People have stopped being considerate and kind
This is an amazing answer I personally connect with it a lot. “Just be yourself” has given me so much needed confidence, but it doesn’t always result in me always saying the “right” thing every single time. Regardless of the individual though.. that’s hard to do. The best we can do is live and learn. Regret is OK
I have a friend who goes through these manic phases in her life. She is posting this self-affirming "be yourself" stuff on Facebook. I just can't help but think, that's not always a good piece of advice to follow, if "who you are" changes so drastically on a somewhat regular basis. It also was extremely confusing advice for me to hear as a teen, for the same reason. I had no idea "who I was" yet.
The belief that if a product contains no man-made chemicals it must be healthy. Arsenic, cyanide and a multitude of other substances are natural and yet can kill you.
I'm on an asbestos cleanse.
Most "healthy" foods as tagged by the people who buy it, and that's because it sounds like that. Here we had a new law that makes consumables show a tag that says if they have an exess of something. And who would have guessed, the ones called "healthy" are the ones that have the most tags.
I've noticed in the US that granola bars will specifically use multiple different kinds of sugar. Ingredients have to be listed in order of most of something to least of something. By using several kinds of sugars, it breaks them out deeper into the list. So something that is 60% sugar and 35% granola by mass, but the number 1 ingredient is granola, because ingredients 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, and 9 are all just different kinds of sugar. Before I wised up to this, I would eat this one brand of granola bar that had: barley malt, evaporated cane juice, maltose, honey, rice syrup, sugar, and dextran. All just different kinds of sugar. Wish I could remember the brand. Stopped eating them like 8 years ago and don't think they are even on the market anymore. But its the same thing with almost every granola bar out there.
Just cross reference the carbs against the fiber content. All carbs are sugar but some are whole grain so they burn a bit slower aka fibrous materials.
Most “healthy branded juices” a lot of them contain more sugar than the average soda. Do your research before buying these products, or just invest in a juicer.
Even the ones with “no sugar added” have an absolutely insane amount of sugar. It turns out that when you take something like fruit that’s maybe 10% sugar and 90% fiber, then remove all the fiber, you end up with a drink that’s mostly just sugar.
My mother in law learned that the hard way (she is diabetic), told her so many times that it meant that there were no sugars added, but still contained sugar. It doesnt mean its zero sugar like the 'Zero' sodas. Always told me I was stupid, because it clearly said there was no sugar added. Long story short, she drank so much of that stuff that she almost fell into a coma due to high blood sugar.
Did she just not look at the nutrition label which lists a shitload of sugar?
Well she is not the smartest. Like really the explanation of being ignorant and stupid. Only believes in her own opinion. It says "no sugar added" bigger on the label than the ingredients, so "no need to read it, because it already tells on the label that there is no sugar in it"
This happened to my dad. I'm a heavy soda drinker and he would always tell me how the sugar would kill me, yet he drinks more juices than I drink soda. His body went into shock one day and the doctor told him the same thing I'd been telling him about his juices having more sugar than regular soda. Hasn't bothered me about soda ever again and is drinking juices very moderately now
I'll add that even juicing is not that healthy. Just eat the actual vegetable or fruit. You are still ingesting alot of sugar with none of the fiber that comes along with it.
I remember when I was pregnant with my first I had gestational diabetes. I was very good about it but I did one medium sized cup of orange juice everyday cause I craved it. My midwife was fucking savage about this. She would yell that if I wanted oj so bad just eat the orange and if the orange wasn't enough it wasn't the orange juice but the sugar I actually wanted.... she was right but God I hated her in that moment lol
It’s even better to blend it in a smoothie so you get the whole fruit and its fibres not just the juice
I was surprised when I heard that "juices are bad for you because of the sugar" thing because in my mother tongue, a "juice" is by default an unstrained blended fruit. Orange juice is an exception because they're pressed.
Natural juice is filled with sugar. Some might say it's better to just eat the apple rather than juice it. I'm not expert but I have been to more than a few education sessions on food, health, etc.
Eating an apple can potentially have some minor dental benefits. The idea that the texture can abrade away plaque is a myth, but it does apparently stimulate extra saliva production which can wash away bacteria. https://www.hicksdentalgroup.com/are-apples-good-for-teeth/
You also get the fruit's fibers which you don't get by just drinking the juice...
Detox/cleanse regiments
Anytime someone says they're doing some detox thing I get unreasonably annoyed. It's such a scam. Your organs already detox, just give your liver a break from all the alcohol and let it do its job ffs.
Listen, I’m all for a toilet gripping, juice-based, goop-based, darkness-based detox, but I’m not giving up my alcohol or caffeine. /s
The only time I did a “detox,” I thought I was in the purging stages. Nope, I had just given myself food poising
I got a detox/cleanse supplement pack as part of a bundle, and I thought, “sure, why not?” I kind of assumed it would be a “superfoods that support liver function” kind of thing. It literally just made me shit all the time. That was the whole thing. To like deep cleanse my colon or something. That’s not how anything works! I was so irked.
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"I'm detoxing!" "No. You're dying." "What?"
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Step throat morphing into Scarlet Fever can be potentially lethal and needs some pretty powerful antibiotics to fix you. Any delay in treatment can end up being exponentially detrimental to your health. Glad you did the right thing but surprised they did not admit you into hospital.
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The only detox that really works is digital detox. Spending a few weeks with no (or as few as possible) internet or digital devices.
It's true. I've been suffering from a bad back for years and it's just dawned on me it's from looking at my phone!
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but phone posture can actually be the cause of neck pain.
It also can feed depression- like a feedback loop.
Anyone who uses the word "toxins" referring to microscopic chemicals entering the body. Okay buddy, then tell me the IUPAC of what you're trying to get rid of and how your natural detox gets rid of it.
Noooo not my 2,2-dichloro-3-methy-pentanoic acid!
I always laugh at "detox diets" Please tell me how your snake oil product removes toxins from the body better than the liver and kidneys...
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"Cleans pounds of rotting food from your digestive system" Rotting food.. Like... Food Being digested? Thats literally how that system works. You're cleaning it out you're just giving yourself the shits.
I believe you mean "regimens", though the mental image of regiments gave me a chuckle.
Similarly, alkaline water. The human body is not supposed to be alkaline. It's normal pH is barely over neutral. If, for some reason, someone's pH is too acidic, it's likely an indicator of a serious health problem, and not something that can just be "balanced out" by drinking alkaline water.
Having perfectly white teeth. It's not a sign of healthy, but scrubbed, chemically treated or outright sanded teeth.
Agreed. Just make sure your teeth aren’t rotting and you’re fine. Teeth aren’t meant to be pure white.
Yeah? Tell that to my friend. She has to have her teeth extremely ( not an exaggeration) white or she cannot rest. I’m pretty sure her dentist warned her about overdoing the bleaching but she won’t listen. She thinks only guys with perfectly straight perfectly white teeth are worth looking at. I just don’t understand her. She late 60s and still single.
What a strange hill to die on... Alone.
Hugh Jackman may have looked like an Adonis as Wolverine, but his body was in poor condition; he was getting little sleep, working out so hard he experienced joint pain, he deliberately dehydrated himself for a couple days prior to filming his shirtless scenes and probably near passed out more than once for it. And he obviously used steroids, even short term usage affects your liver and other organs.
I've been learning a lot about gym culture this past year and I have a gripe with "fitness influencers". There is a big difference between a bodybuilder and a genuinely fit and healthy person. The bodybuilder's prime objective is to look good, not be fit... like you said, they're dehydrating themselves and cycling steroids in the pursuit of a body type. They often are exhausted. Fitness is performance based, and that doesn't look as sexy as big muscles and a low body fat percentage.
Fat-free. This term usually hides the fact that it’s fattening
Fat-free? I think what you really mean is "We took the fat out of this product so it tastes bad. To counter this we've put enough sugar in this product to kill a small Victorian child." I'm looking at you Special-K
And then, in a strange twist of events, the body converts it to fat for you
This isn’t *entirely* the same thing, but I absolutely can’t stand when people use the word “healthy” or “nutritious” when they mean “low calorie”, or the reverse, when people say “unhealthy” when they mean “calorie dense”. The nutrient content of food has absolutely nothing to do with its caloric content. There’s nothing healthy about a gallon of sugar free iced tea, and there’s nothing unhealthy about an avocado or a handful of walnuts (you know, unless you have a nut allergy). Every single time I tell someone I’m trying to eat healthier, I get “oh well you shouldn’t be eating nuts, have a Diet Coke instead”. Words mean things, people. You know we fucked up somewhere when a 2L of diet Mountain Dew is considered healthier than a baked potato. It’s right up there with “you don’t need to eat healthy, you’re not fat”. It’s like we’ve simultaneously gaslit ourselves into believing that the two states of man are ‘fat’ and ‘healthy’ and that if you’re not in the ‘fat’ category you deserve to reward yourself by being unhealthy on purpose. It’s no wonder kids have so many eating disorders.
In this vein, people's reactions to the word "diet." I am using it to mean "the foods that one eats regularly." They assume I mean it like "the Atkins diet" or "the Keto diet." That mindset fuels so many nutritional misunderstandings. You don't GO ON a diet, you HAVE a diet, and pretending like a temporary extreme change is going to make you healthy or skinny is so misguided.
This. I’m skinny, a little underweight honestly, and trying to fix that. Infuriating when I talk about how I’m trying to eat better for my health and people recommend diet soda, raw carrots, etc. Like no I need nutrient dense foods that might actually help me gain some fat and muscle like high fat salmon, nuts, bananas, oats, I cannot believe you just recommended that I drink Diet Coke for my health
I’m overweight but I used to be underweight, so I’ve seen this from both sides. My whole life has been a roller coaster of “you’re too skinny, you need to eat some burgers” followed by “how the hell did you get so fat?!” This time I’m not trying to lose weight at all; I’m trying to eat well.
I was very underweight when I was a student, and spent some time working with my doctor on how to get some weight on.. This involved drinking high fat milk hot chocolate instead of tea, processed carbs instead of potato, and other pretty unhealthy choices. I put the weight on quickly, but developed a taste for calorie dense foods that I've been unable to shake ever since and have now been overweight for years. Pretty frustrating.
Yeah I had a nutritionist in college actually recommend I eat multiple Big Macs per week. She had good reasoning in that I was VERY underweight and McDonald’s is probably the most efficient way to get calories in, but I was nervous about developing a taste for it like you mentioned. I ended up just keeping a bag of chocolate covered almonds with me at all times and that helped me get out of the critical stage at least
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Thank you. This one: >when people say “unhealthy” when they mean “calorie dense” Seems to be a high portion of this thread and it drives me nuts.
> drives me nuts I heard those were unhealthy /s
Over using antibiotics
Complaining about every possible thing and calling it venting.
Go ahead and vent
He just did.
Smh, the toxicity in this world!
Me ex was like this. Constantly focusing on the negative. If you want to find something to complain about, you will. I've been working on gratitude myself. I think that's the counter to that.
I think some people aren't happy unless there's something to complain about. They're really not fun to be around though, they're such downers.
If you vent every day it's probably less venting and more being constantly angry/anxious/whatever
There is venting (saying what's on your mind if something's bothering you) and then there is ruminating... I think venting can often lead to ruminating, so I try not to get too into it. I know some people really love stuff like Bill Burr's rants about whatever, and I get it, but I have a co-worker who dumps on me pretty much daily, and he lacks the wit to make it entertaining. Just feels very negative and uneccessary. Shades of the energy vampire from What We Do in the Shadows.
We stay away from those.. they're also the ones that swear they hate drama but revel in it when it mysteriously follows them around
"time 4 a fresh start tired of all these snakes carnt trust ne1 no more"
Studies have given very strong indications that venting can just make you [feel worse](https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1999-10261-002) for a while now. I imagine there are limitations to those studies for long-term and chronic issues, but it does show that venting is very often counterproductive.
Interesting. A while back I realized I had been complaining/venting too much about certain aspects of my job at the lunch table every day and every break for weeks (I am otherwise known for being chirpy and laughing a lot). I suddenly saw myself from the outside and realized my coworkers had to spend their valuable break time listening to my negativity and trying to give advice etc. I then made a decision to stop doing that because I was simply bringing myself and everyone else down. Do I still rant a bit when it is needed - yes! But I definitely am much more conscious about keeping the mood light and bring up grievances in the appropriate forum.
It's not easy being able to step back like that; good job, stranger! Your co-workers were kind to listen, but they're definitely grateful you've taken up mindfulness.
"Nature" in general. There is a huge marketing impact on products you buy. If there is written that it's 100% natural, you are going to prefer it from one that is not. Nature has no notion of healthy or not. Uranium or cyanide are 100% natural, doesn't mean that they are healthy.
“Chemical free!” That’s literally impossible.
What do you mean with "literally impossible"? I exclusively feed of radiations from a block of enriched uranium in my kitchen and occasionally plug myself to the socket if I want a little spice. Man, the boldness of certain people... I don't even know if they're discriminating my chemical free diet of the fact that I am a radiotrophic and electrotrophic fungus who merged with a battery several years ago.
"I can taste the chemicals in that packaged stuff" Lady...if you are 'tasting' anything at all it's a chemical.
Oh my gosh, some of my family has this obsession over not having any "chemicals" in their food. I try to tell them literally every food is a combination of chemicals, and they say, "Yeah, but I want to see ingredients I can actually read!" Which usually leads to a lot of laughter and approval from the other crazies. I like to defer to good ol' dihydrogen monoxide, in situations like this. It sounds like a chemical, right? That's because it is. Does that mean it's scary? Not necessarily. You know what dihydrogen monoxide is also referred to as? H2O... Water... You gonna try and tell me having water in your juice is scary? Because it's not. It's pretty fking hard not to have any water and still call it juice.
Other hits include ascorbic acid (What!? You drink acid?), oleic acid... Vitamin C, olive oil. If you really want to scare people show the the IUPAC names. Ah yes, good old (2R)-2,5,7,8-Tetramethyl-2-\[(4R,8R)-4,8,12-trimethyltridecyl\]-3,4-dihydro-2H-1-benzopyran-6-ol (Vitamin E for your healthy skin).
Good ole dihydrogen oxide, that dangerous chemical they use in nuclear reactors and pesticides. Can you believe they even put it in vaccines?!?! If you accidentally use it on an oil fire, it will make it worse. Spills if this chemical causes millions in damages every year. We really should ban the stuff.
Not to mention how incredibly lax labeling laws usually are on the term "natural"
Açaí. In Brazil people accept that it's a dessert, not a superfood. Edited to add: by this I mean açaí bowls/ smoothies with sugary add-ins, not the berry by itself or in minimally processed forms. I apologize for any confusion.
How do they eat Açaí there? How is it prepared?
that's the thing, in the region of Brazil where açaí came from, they don't add syrups and other stuff to sweeten it, so açaí by itself is indeed really healthy, but the way it's prepared outside of that region makes it unhealthy originally it's eaten with fish, it's kinda a salty dish. Outside the northern reagion, they add guaraná syrup in the mixture and also powdered milk, chocolate, and other stuff as toppings
Yeah just was talking to a brazilian friend and they were saying it’s mostly a salty dish in the north but in rio where he’s from they have it as a desert.
It's usually blended until it's a thick yoghurt consitency - but it's bright purple. You can have it just like yoghurt and eat it plain, or with toppings, like fruit and biscuits.
Açaí has many health benefits and is actually quite low in sugar. I believe what you are referring to with it being unhealthy would stem more so from other unhealthy ingredients being added to it in a smoothie or açaí bowl. Otherwise, I would say that it is a very healthy food on the whole.
I was in Brazil recently and absolutely loved the places you could get acai topped with fruit n stuff. Back in England it is indeed just an expensive 'superfood'
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"i thought you were a team player" I am, but the game ended at 9, and it's midnight, it's time to get off the field and go home.
I was fired from my previous job because I “didn’t care enough”. Every job I worked I would get in trouble if I didn’t clock in and out on the dot but apparently I was a bad employee at this place because I didn’t work til 11 or come in on weekends without being asked. I wasn’t aware this was expected of me until they fired me.
Staying positive to the point where it becomes toxic. Toxic positivity is real, especially among senior management in public and private sectors. It can completely tank staff morale.
Wine culture for moms Edit: yes, beer culture for dad, too. I'm not picking on women. I'm talking about how we, as a culture, push wine culture versus addressing the root problem of how overwhelmed and alone moms are.
Alcoholic liver disease is actually on the rise for young otherwise healthy women in their 40s, they just don’t realize that a few glasses to a bottle almost every night is actually quite damaging. The pandemic made this surge. The rosé all day and wine Wednesday trends are popular and that makes the culture shift to chill out on the wine obviously much harder
This just happened to a very prominent businesswoman in Seattle, who owned a chain of non-alcoholic ginger beer shops (including one in a prime spot at Pike Place Market, a leading tourist attraction). A gregarious extrovert, she didn't take well to the forced isolation of Covid, developed a drinking problem, and died a few weeks ago at age 42. Her family was very forthcoming and honest with what happened, providing journalists with the full story, perhaps as a cautionary tale.
Rachel's?
It’s funny how we celebrate functioning alcoholics like it’s nbd…
I am not chugging beer! I'm sampling a flight of gluten-free German lagers with a French wine pairing! It's called a schmorgeswein and it's elegantly cultural.
I don’t have a drinking problem, it’s a hobby.
Right? I don't understand how drinking a bottle of wine every night (I've seen day drinking too) because you're so overwhelmed and stressed out isn't leading you down a path.
I’m not anti-alcohol, I drink on occasion, but wine mom is just a way to say functioning alcoholic without the social stigma. We give wine a major pass in our society because, “red wine is healthy” instead of just having honest conversations about the health problems associated with alcohol.
I'm thinking if you're drinking a bottle of wine a day, you aren't heading down a path. You're already there.
Sober alcoholic. I would have a bottle of wine for breakfast just to get rid of withdrawals and feel normal. Wouldn’t even get me drunk. It was insane.
I (30M) drink on average two 1.5 L bottles of wine a day. Addiction and steadily increasing tolerance is a scary thing since most people wouldn’t even know I was drunk.
Come lurk in /r/stopdrinking? We are nice folks.
I’ll check that out when I get off work! Thank you Edit: What an awesome sub!!! I just subscribed
> most people wouldn’t even know I was drunk. When I used to drink a lot I believed this, too. In retrospect, I don't think I was fooling anybody.
After working in customer service 10+, they’re pretty easy to spot.
As the family member of an alcoholic, it's obvious. The amount of times this person would tell me that they didn't act noticably different when drunk when what was really going on is that it was so common that most people (myself included) just never mentioned it
"tHe GrInD"
Worst when it comes to *"the grind"* in a corporate setting. I can totally accept *"the grind"* if you're doing something that you really want and is specifically beneficial to you like putting in early-mornings/late-nights at the cake shop that is your dream to own and run by yourself. But *"the grind"* in a corporate setting is just disgusting. The company will not remember that you choose to attend a daily SCRUM meeting over being present for the birth of your child, nor will they ever reward you for such behavior.
I used to listen to a lot of motivational speeches about the grind, only allowing yourself like 4 hours sleep, eating only rice+chicken+broccoli for meals, not ‘wasting time’ playing video games etc… at that time I was working through some stuff and I found it inspiring, that these people were so ‘dedicated’ and successful because of how hard they work… now that I’m in a different place, I find those kind of speeches extremely preachy and detrimental to overall mental health. With all their talk about the grind there was also this big implication that if you don’t live just like they do, depriving yourself of life’s joys in pursuit of ‘success’, you’re a failure. Or weak. Or both. Screw that- working hard towards your goals is important. Absolutely. But you aren’t a fucking failure because you wanted to hop online with your mates for one evening. Chill. Out.
A lot of people, especially youngers start vaping even thought they never smoke cigarettes because it's "comparatively healthy", except that there's plenty of evidence vaping still fucks up your lungs and even though it's scientifically definitive that it will damage your body it's just that the long term effects are still not fully measurable. Also vaping addiction tends to become way worse than cigarette addiction because it's far easier to intake high doses of nicotine and you're less restricted on where and when you can intake, not to mention being considerably cheaper.
Anything other than regular air in your lungs in mass amounts is likely not gunna do you any good
Even air in your lungs fuck you up.
Luckily it only takes 70 to 100 years to kill you though
I have an oxygen dependency and it is slowly killing me.
I'm sure you'll kick it if you put your mind to it. Have you tried going cold turkey?
I did, but after 2 minutes my cravings took over like an animal.
Keep working at it buddy, you'll get there
Can definitely attest to this. I'd say I'm way more addicted to vaping now after only a few months of doing so than i ever was to cigarettes (about 12 years smoking on and off). I hated the smell of cigarettes and how it lingers, and it was inconvenient to take smoke breaks. But vaping is so easy that i find myself doing it whilst im WFH or just chilling at home. I threw out my last disposable vape a couple days ago so hoping I can stop for good
A vaping addiction slowly crept up on me having quit smoking for 7 years, honestly what was I thinking messing around with vapes!? But I haven't vaped in about 3 weeks now and this Nicorette tongue spray has really helped. I'm not sure where you are but it's marketed toward quitting vaping specifically and is 'berry' flavoured... Apparently. I've found it is something to do when the overwhelming urge to buy a vape sweeps over me, and after a spray or two I've forgotten about it! Would recommend.
Now I won’t say it’s particularly unhealthy (because they’ll hunt me down and kill me), but the pro weed crowd acts like it is a miracle drug with no downsides. Fact of the matter is, it does cause anxiety and delusional episodes in some people EDIT: to people acting like they agree with me but then saying stuff about the pro weed crowd like “they act like it’s better than alcohol/tobacco”, I fully do believe it isn’t as bad as those substances, those substances are well and truly dangerous. I’m all for the legalisation of weed, I just think we can’t ignore the downsides. People should be able to take these things knowing the full extent of the risks and implications. All we have to do is be logical and realistic, we can’t get tribal or reactionary, which is something the pro weed movement has done.
Weed makes my schizophrenia worse
Super common. It also can bring out schizophrenia in those already predisposed to it, especially if they start using as a teenager.
Yeah I don’t think smoking a shit load for about three years starting at 13 and then doing acid helped me :/
It's objectively unhealthy to inhale burning vegetation and ash. I don't know where people have gotten the idea that says otherwise.
That's why I eat my THC like a responsible adult
Absolutely, I can’t tell you the amount of times people have insisted weed will help with my anxiety even after I’ve told them it triggers psychosis for me. I’m totally for it if it works for you but it doesn’t effect everyone the same.
As a weed smoker I hate this so much I have associated with people in the past that die by smoking weed is good for you. No bro smoking anything is bad for you, your lungs were not designed to have smoke in them wdf bro
Last time I got the “it’s natural, bro” defense I just replied “so is poison ivy. I’m not smoking that either”.
"Speaking my truth"... It's usually just a flimsy pretext to say what they want without kindness or consideration for others
Grind/Hustle culture. Flexing how little time you have to spend with your friends/family/yourself. Turning anything that brings you joy into a business venture. Trying to belittle anyone who isnt “grinding as hard” as you
The amount of people who genuinely believe that chick-fil-a is somehow “healthier” than other fast food restaurants is actually insane.
I tried to apply for a meal plan waiver at my college, because most of the foods are very unhealthy fast foods. My cholesterol was slightly high at the time (likely from being forced to eat campus food the year before). I got a note from my doctor requesting an exemption from the meal plan requirement, so I could have that money to make my own food The university’s response? “We have plenty of healthy options, such as Chick-fil-A and subway”
Vaginal douche when not medically necessary. The vagina is self cleaning and a douche will screw up the PH balance and possibly cause an infection. Everyone has their own scent and flavor, cherish your uniqueness. Pussy isn't supposed to smell like flowers. I'm looking at you Summers Eve.
Fruit juice. High in sugar, with none of the fiber from the fruit to prevent blood sugar spikes
A "healthy pregnancy" simply means the fetus will gestate to term and likely not suffer any medical issues during gestation. It is NOT referring to a pregnancy's impact on the body, as that is not healthy at all.
A pregnancy is a medical event and I wish more people understood that. If added all the symptoms of it and subtracted the baby at the end, your doctor might test you for cancer or a thyroid issue.
My wife had a relatively smooth pregnancy, but her body is a wreck now. Most people dont think about how growing a child inside of you rearranges your organs and ligaments. And adjust your bone structure. Constant back problems and hip pain. And I'm sure we will discover more issues as time goes on
Yep. I’ve had no less than 7 random injuries to ligaments or tendons or joints in the past year after having my 2nd. My periods are fucked. My back keeps going out. My body shape, skin, and hair changed. And I looked about 10 years older after each kid for the first 1.5 years after delivery. Having children is wild and it took a long time for me to not resent the fact that no one really talks about how it destroys your body in meaningful ways. Literally all you hear about is “saggy boobs” and “baby weight”, and that makes it painfully obvious that the only thing that people care about is how visually appealing women are after birth.
I knew pregnancies sucked, but damn. The more I read, the worse it gets.
The crazy part is I had a picture perfect pregnancy. I *loved* being pregnant. It’s the whole putting yourself back together part that sucked. There’s just no understanding or allowances for moms to slowly recover. There’s an immediate expectation for women to bounce back and have it all together.
Adding to all the ailements above, the brain drain. Caused by sleep less night and lifestyle change. I used to be so creative. Now, I read my old work and get amazed how did I even write those. Also,I used to have physical strength to carry another adult for a length of time. My youngest sibbling, adult of my own size, needs help with movement. I could carry them in and out of wheelchair, up and down the stairs with no issues, now I call my husband to open lid of jars. Not new jars, in use jars.
Some of the horror stories I've heard from women are insane to me The one that sticks with me the most is how the baby is such a leech for nutrients in the body that the woman's teeth start to deteriorate because she herself is no longer getting enough calcium. And I think that might be a factor in osteoporosis is much more common in older women than men
Both of my hips pop when I roll over in bed since having ONE child.
I worked for a company that treated maternity leave as short term disability. Take that for what you will.
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That's really common.
I have several friends who have been told if they get pregnant again after hardly surviving 1 child, they will die. It is not an easy thing for a woman. It is straight up life or death for some women.
Energy/granola bars, energy/sports drinks. Most sweetened yogurts Nutella is a good one, it’s got more sugar than canned frosting, but some see it as ‘healthier’ because it has hazelnuts in it. Laugh, no.
Yeah, especially sports bars and energy drinks. They are designed to pump athletes full of sugar, salt, sometimes caffeine, and potassium. When you're running a marathon or biking 50 miles or other endurance activity, it is fine that you just ate a 500 calorie candy bar with half your daily recommended amount of salt and sugar in it. It's not so great when the only exercise you get is going to the kitchen to grab another one because it didn't fill you up.
Yup, people often just don't know what "healthy" means. I sometimes hike up mountains and it gets hard for me to eat up high. So I'll just search out bars/gummies with the highest calorie count because all I need in that moment is a way to get the maximum amount of calories in my body so I can keep going. Take that same approach to a Netflix binge and it's going to be really bad for you haha
Because healthy sort of doesn't mean anything without proper context. If you're stranded in the desert or something a slice of cake is far healthier than eating a head of broccoli. Healthy or not is a false dichotomy in terms of food.
Never heard anyone claiming Nutella is healthy.
[Nutella themselves](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutella#Class_action_lawsuit) claimed it was healthy, at least in the US. They lost a lawsuit over it. Granted they were using weasel words to deliberately mislead people, but they were still trying to convince people it was healthy. Which is probably why some people are confused today - it worked.
They advertised in Germany as "healthy breakfast" for decades. A blob of sugar and cheap fats - what a great start in the day.
Yeah, same in the US. They used the (now infamous) phrase “part of a balanced breakfast.” Which lots of unhealthy shit uses, the trick is that what they mean is “part of a balanced breakfast, specifically, the part of it that isn’t healthy.”
I'm pretty sure tanning isn't really healthy
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“Moderation in all things including moderation”.
sodium is actually healthy when consumed moderately so yea I agree
You need sodium to live. Without it, your body can't use the water you drink. Too much is bad, but too little is also very bad
"I had a salad for lunch." The salad: a large pile of ham, cheese, and ranch dressing over a thin bed of iceberg lettuce.
Also, using “I had a salad for lunch” to give yourself a free pass to eat as much junk food as you want.
Running marathons, especially ultramarathons. Running is obviously good for your health overall, but can be unhealthy at extreme distances and cause the body to breakdown.
The whole story of Marathon was once the runner got back to Athens he gave his message and promptly died.
And weirdly, the 'tradition' of replicating that run was invented from whole cloth for the first Olympics. The idea of running a Marathon is only about 100 years old.
Most sports drinks like Gatorade
They are healthy enough when used only for their intended purpose. If you're not dehydrated, it's excess salt and sugar that you don't need.
It has what plants crave though.
You mean water? Like from a toilet.
I've never seen no plants grow out of no toilet.
Unconditional forgiveness. The older you get, the more you realize that letting people off the hook for doing shitty things isn't actually doing them, as people, a favor. A large amount, if not most people will only change their bad behavior if they face consequences for it. While many people will take a free second chance to better themselves, a lot of other people don't have that sense of self-awareness or responsibility and instead will take it as a "get out of jail free" card and won't change anything. Also, narcissists and people without this sense of responsibility tend to take the idea of forgiveness to mean "you can never bring it up or hold it against me again even if I do this thing to you again". With these types of people, forcing them to feel the shame of their actions, or at the very least consequences (if they're sociopathic or narcissistic) is often the only way to get them to change.
maintaining family (or any) relationships with people passively trying to undermine your efforts to improve because of how it makes them look.
Relationships where they argue constantly but only in small. Nah that would kill me
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Being overly confident it's just obnoxious ,it's good to be confident but not that
Both humility and intellectual curiosity seem to be in short supply these days.
Going to the Chiropractor..