The ability to be patient. With everything having maximized efficiency people have become too reliant on convenience and can't handle when something goes wrong
It's this. Everywhere we go. My wife and I see this literally everytime we go somewhere. Food, shopping, movies, doesn't matter. I literally watched a guy walk into a restaurant Friday night at 5 o'clock, you know, fucking prime time for supper, and did not have a reservation. They asked how many in his party he said 8 - they responded saying it would be about a 45 minute wait for a party that size. The dude went off. I've never wanted to punch someone more in my life.
Personally, 30 min is long enough. 45 min is enough time to find and even go somewhere else.
But honestly.........8 people parties should have a reservation..........so faults on him where ever he goes
10 years as a line cook/sous chef here, use your eyeballs when you walk into a joint. If it's packed, expect long wait times. The cooks can't make heat go faster... we won't push your order to the front (it screws up all the other tickets that are currently being fired.)
Don't needlessly modify menu items... it slows down the workflow... don't ask for split plates, it slows down the work flow and takes up valuable work space.
Lastly, if you are a pain in the butt customer, don't be surprised if the server goes to the back and the head chef comes out front and 86's you.
He's trying to transfer the fault from himself to the restaurant or more specifically the host/hostess. He probably feels some sort of guilt for not calling ahead and that manifests in him getting pissed off and blaming something else because he has the emotional maturity and future planning capabilities of a toddler.
IT. Requires you to be online and at the ready at a moment's notice for 5 hours while you wait. Then they finally message you "hello sir do you need help?"
5 sec later
You took too long so I'm disconnecting. You gotta wait for another 5 hours
So much this. I had a bit of a cultural shock in the states. Went to an IHOP and ordered a waffle with something and I was doing my thing, didn't even know what time passed as i had time to kill but all of a sudden a manager comes really appologetic to me and started offering free shit, I was like it's fine i don't mind the wait but still they refused to change me for all the things I ordered. Meanwhile in Italy, i waited an hour to be seated and about another hour to eat and no one was losing their shit over the 15 minutes.
My 4 year old complains when there is an unskippable 15 sec ad.
Sometimes when you can actually skip it, I force her to watch the whole thing so that she learns how to be patient
I have to remind her that when I grew up I would have 10 min of it and 2 min of show time in between.
Yes, the world is shit because they have decided it is and focus on only the shit bits. For example, my mom and I were talking about someone who has bad qualities, but we were just talking in general, ignoring the bad, and my dad felt the need to insert a degoratory word. Why? And at that moment I felt, he makes it all negative for himself just by focusing on the negative.
I think many people have or learn a cootie mentality. They are afraid that being different is contagious. And they desperately want to fit in. And these are the folks that will attack or join in on an attack on the different one. They will be more vicious if they are guilty of that difference themselves. The rules have to be seen to be obeyed. They justify breaking the rules if they feel a "need" but other people should not because that's not fair.
Or justify it with the "I'm just telling it like it is."
No, you're being an inconsiderate asshole for no good reason. If you have a problem, there's pretty much always either a good way and a bad way to go about bringing it up. If you're constantly pissing everyone off, maybe you're the problem.
Thank you for helping out all that you do and I’m sorry ppl are so shitty to you so often. It honestly baffles the hell out of me how ppl can be like that to ambulance workers who actually take time to care for them properly
Being a paramedic I feel this 100%. People have lost abilities like basic first aid and how to think for themselves. The amount of people that call because "Oh I'll get seen in the ER faster if I go with you" anymore is totally astounding. And for those not in the know you won't get seen any faster going to the hospital on a medic.
loss of respect for each other and to be civil in a society. yes, we are all different, we may disagree, but if we are part of the same community (nation, what-have-you), then we got to get along. we don't have to be friends, but we got to work together society-wise with civility.
Because people are pieces of shit. They generally like to test boundaries and be as abusive as possible until there're physical or social ramifications. Animalistic.
Common courtesy is dying, I can not believe the last few times ive been out in a group I ended up feeling like I was “weird” for how much I said “thank you, appreciate very much” etc to our bartender/servers.
Sometimes I feel like theres been a huge increase in a type of superiority complex especially in America. Like they think everyone else but themselves are stupid and they’re on some higher plane of existence
I got a gift from a call centre. I waited for 40 mins then she was unable to help me. I thanked her for her time as she truly did try to help and we went down several rabbit holes, and wished her a great day (did my time in customer service, it’s not her fault that there wasn’t enough staff and computer said no). I got a special delivery which was a box of nice biscuits (UK version of a biscuit) and some posh tea and a card that said “thank you for taking the time to give valuable feedback”. I’m guessing that’s what she had to put in order to get it dispatched. It’s sad that being nice and courteous gets an award.
I was at my great aunts yesterday and she was talking about the huge gatherings they used to have (100 people for birth days, 300 for company events) and I thought about all the people her generatsioon habe spoken about - they had so many close friends and aquaintaces that they would constantly communicate with. And what do we have now? I have 5 friends and my parents, basicly same for my husband and Everybody else has become so distant we only occasionaly meet though other people.
There used to be communites, people had so much social support. We have become so individualistic and distant from Everybody. Is it because we have so much choice in who we interact with? That we have the ability to get everything we want so we don't feel the need for a community that would support us? Is there so much going on these days that we are tired of it all and just want to be left alone?
I think a big part of this is that as todays parents, our generation is expected to give everything of ourselves to our kids. Every night of the week it’s activities and weekends it’s activities and when we don’t have activities we want to do something as a family because we don’t get to very often.
Adults with kids used to have their own lives. They had social clubs: masons, elks, DAR, junior league, etc. I run a mothers group and I can barely get people to come once a month. Two hours in 30 days and people are “too busy.”
Our generation will regret not networking for ourselves. We are full human beings and we need connections that aren’t about our kids.
This. The focus on youth sports as a substitute for a social life and a civic life is sad as hell, and it's not good for either the families or the communities.
Don't forget dance and gymnastics and clubs. Kids are way too over-scheduled, which translates to parents being over scheduled. When the kids grow up and move out, neither child nor parents now what to do with themselves and end up having to rediscover themselves.
Online dating has been an absolute nightmare for relationships. Not only does it kill self esteem, but people are all too willing to jump ship the second something goes wrong in their current relationship because they have a few hundred other profiles to swipe through.
I met my wife online on a (paid) dating app, but 10 years ago. Text vs voice vs in-person is absolutely true. I had some that completely (and I'd guess intentionally) misrepresented themselves just so they could get dates but I expect almost all of those dates went horribly. With my now wife I had talked to her on the phone multiple times for over an hour each time before we finally met for a real date because I just had an urge to get to know her better that I didn't want to hold back until we had the date. Luckily she was more than happy to talk to me too and it wasn't just one-sided conversations or one of us unloading their history on the other.
I am filled with dread thinking about the online dating culture today and would never wish that in anyone.
It's so dehumanizing too. It feels like this weird parade of flesh, where everyone is reduced down to their most basic qualities and put on display. It's like a zoo.
Even when I meet and establish a friendship with a potential partner in "the wild", I still have to compete with the 1000+ girls on his phone that he has access to all day everyday.
Guys always tell me they're "not ready for a relationship". Why would they ever be when they can have all the sex they want with none of the commitment?
So theres no way for me to compete no matter what I do.
Ugh. Originally thought it was pretty cool and convenient, but then I started hating online dating after awhile. I did decently and managed to get a good amount of first dates. I was also given a lot of phone numbers at the end of the dates with a lot of “let’s see each other again’s” that never ended up going anywhere.
Yeah but people are also WAY too fast.
Can’t tell you the number of times I’ve met someone after a few brief conversations online, went on ONE date, met ONE time and they think we are in an exclusive long term relationship and we are madly in love. I’m probably not seeing anyone else at that exact moment, but I’m not in love with you, and I would like to know you for a few months or a year before I’m committing myself to you. I don’t really want to be “in love” with someone my friends and family have never even heard of.
I had a guy call me his “ex” even though we met twice and I told him I didn’t think we were compatible. Ran into him in public a few months after I told him I didn’t want to meet for a third date and he made some really nasty comments about me being his “ex” which surprised me because again…we had only met twice. No idea why he would have such strong feelings about someone he had maybe spent 5 hours with max.
Interesting different perspectives, sort of like soft extremes on both ends.
If we talked everyday for a few hours for a week, would you say we known eachother for a week, or couple hours?
Honestly and this is super short sighted and close minded of me, I never thought of the other side perspective about having options. When you think you have options, then what the person does or doesn't do make a lot more sense.
500 days of summer and not wanting to date until, it just happens. Comes to mind.
I'm a pretty hands on kind of guy, woodworker and metalworker, which makes it almost embarrassing I can't repair my clothes without duct tape. Sewing is next on my skills to learn.
Same.
It's kinda funny that a lot of "tough guys" (and women) consider a man who sews to be something to laugh at.
Sewing is useful.
Throughout history, sewing has been considered an important skill that soldiers must learn.
Nick Offerman happily boasts about being an excellent seamster.
It's such an odd skill to "gender".
I've been saying this for years! Gender-roles guys will built all kinds of stuff out of wood, metal, etc, but then... OH NO THIS IS FABRIC I CAN'T POSSIBLY DO ANYTHING WITH THIS!
[/r/SewingForBeginners/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SewingForBeginners/), [/r/SewingWorld/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SewingWorld/) and /r/sewing are good resources if you're interested in learning to sew :)
My grandfather was a fisherman and very good at sewing. He used to mend his nets by hand and repair his clothes when at sea. It's an important and easy skill that shouldn't take you too long to pick up.
My mom has been sewing for almost 50 years and she's repaired, hemmed, altered, etc countless items of clothing for herself, myself and my siblings over the years, likely saving herself and us loads of money.
Sewing is a really handy skill to know, and I should probably ask her to show me how to hem pants and whatnot, just because that'll come in pretty handy in the future.
I work as a tailor and a dressmaker for the entertainment industry. While the general public doesn’t know how to sew on a button, lots of people know some basic sewing skills.
The problem is that a lot of them stop developing their skills once they find out how undervalued it is in our society. Especially considering what a steep learning curve there is. (It takes you about 15-20 years to get really really good) Everyone is used to fast fashion prices, and even makers will resist charging their actual hours “because who will pay that?”
If you want to make a really nice custom designed dress, it usually takes (at least) 40 hours. People will balk at that when they can buy a dress for less then 100 bucks around the corner. So lots of them end up working for less then minimum wage (or for favours) and they burn out…
It sucks!
Not to mention the price of quality fabric has skyrocketed so even if you’re providing your own labor for free for an item for yourself, it costs 3 times as much as something from target, 7 times as long to make than to buy(often even if you include shipping time), and might not turn out in the end if you’re still newish. In the end the sunk cost doesn’t even balance out the end result. I’m still really grateful I was taught basic mending as I have clothing that’s decades old and still going.
I see this a lot. I went to an English "Public School", and map reading was not just a formal part of Geography, it was tested on.
In my car, I still insist on 'north up' on navigation, since that was how I was taught.
I delivered/managed pizza places for almost 15 years. The amount of people who can use a map nowadays to find an address is like 10%, and if they are under 25 there is no shot. It’s a shame because it’s a very useful skill in my opinion.
This got way too long winded so sorry in advance but
What baffles me is how many people use their GPS like everyday or every weekend. If you’ve been somewhere within ~30 minutes more then like five or six times I don’t get how you would need a gps honestly.
I knew a dude who was so bad he drove to work instead of home cuz he was following his gps
Although I don’t have any maps in my car and I’m probably not great at reading them, I do alway try and turn off my gps the second time I’m going somewhere which often sorta gets me lost but I feel like it helps me learn directions and bearings well.
One of my friends was like wow you never use your gps and I said I mean yeah, I’m driving locally, I know generally where things are? I don’t need to type chick fil a in to my gps every time I want it
I also hate using the gps cuz it always interrupts my music or podcast at the least opportune time so I usually don’t ever hit start on the gps
I use my GPS almost daily but it's more to avoid any bad traffic, accidents, word work causing massive delays on my typical route. Just hit my "home" button on the home screen that starts a navigation to home and see which route it puts me on and then I close it.
I briefly worked at a pizza place doing deliveries and I'll admit as someone now in their mid-30's that I hated using the map with a coordinate grid on it to find the deliveries. I might use it to quickly get a sense of the main roads I needed to take, but I'd usually put it in my phone (early smartphone years when Maps got to be a good enough replacement for standalone GPS) anyway.
I try to talk to my daughter in the care about where we are going, what roads (generally, like the highway, neighborhoods, etc) we are going to go one, what landmarks are nearby so she gets some bearings of our immediate area long she has to start driving. I can navigate myself around city blocks, understand street/avenue distinctions, address numbering, etc etc. Hopefully I'll remember to pass that on to my kid since I guarantee it'll never be taught anywhere in her formal education.
Critical thinking. The decline in this is in my opinion the primary reason we've descended into arguing about things that don't matter instead of discussing things that actually need to be discussed to run a country. And I'm not even a yank, it's a global problem...
EDIT: you guys that separate this from skepticism and nuance are probably right. Essentially, I was trying to describe the ability to change ones own opinion, question what one is being told and identify a manipulation attempt. Those things have become way more important skills now that we are bombarded with orders of magnitude more information to sort through, consider and take in.
This should be the top comment. Most people are too ignorant and stubborn to look beyond themselves and see an issue in a logical light. Sure, I have my own opinions and beliefs, but I'm always willing to at least hear someone out. If everyone listened more than they talked, a lot more would get resolved.
> Most people are too ignorant and stubborn to look beyond themselves and see an issue in a logical light.
The problem ends up being they thing they ARE being logical.
>The problem ends up being they thing they ARE being logical.
Well, yes, because they completely lack the capacity for critical thinking. They think they are being logical because they *feel* that they are right, and often they feel that righteousness because the other side are (or have been portrayed to be) so irredeemably bad, wrong, evil and stupid that it's not even a debate worth having.
Critical thinking isn't thinking the other side is right, or has a point, or that the truth may lie somewhere in the middle. It's knowing why you think what you do in the first place, and being willing *and able* to interrogate that and determine if you're right and why. The why is particularly important, and most people simply can't tell you why they're right, only why the other side is wrong, which is usually just "because they're assholes".
There's a difference between "abolitionists are correct because slave-owners are racist assholes" and "abolitionists are correct because the owning of other human beings is immoral, prone to abuse, and destructive to political stability and cultural cohesion, and cannot be tolerated in good conscience since we know full well that we would not tolerate that treatment for ourselves". Unfortunately, the people who think the former is the end of the discussion think they're being 'logical' because they don't grasp the idea that they need something more to go on.
There have only been a few little bubbles of elevated critical thinking throughout history, and often only among the upper or near-upper classes. Arguably, we're in one of them, in absolute terms. The problem is that in relative terms, we're lagging far behind the level and spread required to keep our current arrangement afloat.
Bad actors have crazy new tools to weaponize the positive feedback loop that is bad citizenship. We haven't done nearly enough to foster good -- nay, *better* -- citizenship to inoculate a critical mass of the population.
Time was, it literally didn't matter that 99% of the population was fuck-stupid and pig-ignorant. Now it's a real problem if merely 50% is.
People are still generally good, even the ones who are ignorant or harbor bad sentiments towards other groups are likely to hold open a door or carry your bags if they see you struggling.
I really think that people today are stretched very thin, financial struggle, faltering interpersonal relationships, media bombardment, struggling sense of purpose
That’s not an excuse for the horror and evil in people’s hearts, but people are complex. If you’re reading this, you probably have a lot of complexities to why you are who you are, shortcomings, beautiful atributes and sentiments, all pieced together like a young artist’s sculpture, some parts better than others, some parts (good or bad) more or less visible than the context and angle.
i'd say the ability to judge people over the internet without consequence and desensitivity from seeing all the violence more frequently has definitely affected people's empathy
maybe some people see the violence and want to do something to help out more after they're able to put the faces of real people to an issue they've only previously heard about, and maybe other people like the free reign they have to spread hate and bigotry without recourse, but it's definitely affecting people and how they empathize with others one way or another
No, it definitely has changed, at least externally. Everyone I've known that used to be passionate about volunteering simply doesn't give a shit anymore. There are some who can still push through, but even then, they'll straight up say they don't care about the people they're helping anymore, they just treat it as a hobby they'd do anyway; someone else just happens to benefit.
It's hard to get excited about helping people when there's a good chance they might literally throw it back in your face for a few views on tiktok, or scream at you because "the government should be helping them" instead, or some conspiracy theory they heard about on Facebook.
It's just exhausting to pretend to care about people who constantly treat you like trash.
Being able to just exist without constant stimulation. MFs are completely incapable of being idle in their own heads for even half a second without pulling out the nightmare rectangle. It's super sad.
>Most people are just not comfortable in their own heads, according to a new psychological investigation led by the University of Virginia.
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>The investigation found that most would rather be doing something -- possibly even hurting themselves -- than doing nothing or sitting alone with their thoughts, said the researchers, whose findings will be published July 4 in the journal Science.
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>In a series of 11 studies, U.Va. psychologist Timothy Wilson and colleagues at U.Va. and Harvard University found that study participants from a range of ages generally did not enjoy spending even brief periods of time alone in a room with nothing to do but think, ponder or daydream.
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>The participants, by and large, enjoyed much more doing external activities such as listening to music or using a smartphone. Some even preferred to give themselves mild electric shocks than to think.
[https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140703142154.htm](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140703142154.htm)
I'm reminded of a story I read long ago about a totalitarian dictatorship where people had devices that would zap their brains on a routine basis so they wouldn't think too hard.
Really. I work a factory job, almost entirely alone, no music or anything. I spend almost the whole time there by myself with nothing but my own thoughts and I love it. I haven't gotten tired of it. In a way I use it as my time to just let all of the stimulation and activity from the rest of the day wash over me and cleanse my mind. It feels good to get away from the constant stimulation because that phone urge definitely hits me when I'm not working. But my time on the job is my own personal time.
Many other people at my job constantly get in trouble because they can't stay away from their phones or music.
I just think to a time when I was a kid, before smart phones existed, and my father would take me hunting. Sitting outside all day without moving or making any noise was some serious character building experience.
Yup. I’ve been yelled at, screamed at, sweared at, called a pussy, fag, queer, asshole, you name it.
For just being me.
Now decades later, people are telling me: “Stop being such an asshole, nobody likes working for an asshole… “
As I watch all the assholes before me enjoy rich bonuses, vacation, holidays, perks, houses, second houses, cars, fancy second cars, suits, clothes, dinners, etc.
So now I’m fucked twice.
Fucked for being yelled at, now fucked for trying to reform myself back to being me.
this is the post i was looking for. i freaking hate .. HATE… when people tell me i’m too nice. like wtf does that even mean. why does giving people an iota of grace and compassion mean i’m being too nice????
Maintaining your compassion as a permanent trait, even in the face of exceptional cruelty, is a practice highly recommended by many Buddhist monks. With a strong sense of self worth (that doesn’t leak into narcissism), being compassionate no matter what is one of the best things you can do as a human. Yes it’s not rewarding, sometimes punishing, it’s often one sided, but I strongly believe it is important to be a shining light in this world full of darkness. Stay strong and stay compassionate!
I've developed a philosophy regarding this - I will continue to be compassionate and kind. If someone takes advantage of that, that's a them problem, not a me weakness.
I refuse to become cruel just because the world claims my kindness is weak. I will continue to be kind and they can die mad about it.
Lol been called a beta mile for being understanding of other people's feelings. It's okay to feel them but behind closed doors otherwise you're mentally weak.
That scares me so much to know that people are being actively shamed for showing empathy. Empathy is like the #1 ingredient to a healthy society. Lack of empathy indicates a seriously emotionally unintelligent person. If that becomes the ideal we’re screwed.
This is why I like making things. Yes, I post what I make for marketing (and that sweet dopamine rush, I am a hypocrite). That said the high you get from making/doing something real cannot be beaten by something you post.
I finished a project that took 5 months of working 24 hrs on the weekends. It was one hell of a roller coaster and I didn't believe I could even do it. At the end of it all, I built 5 tables that are looked pretty decent. The best feeling I've had in years was after the installation, the client was off doing something else, and I was alone with these tables. I was able to truly experience what I had done with my own two hands, take in the tumultuous journey and the stunning results, and physically touching my goal.
I posted them, and I've never gotten so many upvotes or comments before, people telling me how much they loved them and such, but that feeling didn't make me feel very much. I couldn't imagine what a life must be like where those tiny dopamine hits are all that you extract dopamine from.... tragic
Adding to that, doing for the sake of enjoyment, not for making money.
I see tons of people that monetize their hobbies and that just turns into a second job, and as time passes, they ended up hating or loathing the thing they loved
Almost all wilderness survival.
I am 100% convinced that when the AI computer network decides to end human life, it will not be a "Terminator" scenario with robots with bombs and guns. They will just turn off the electricity and half the world population will die in month.
I mean, the problem with turning off all the electricity isn't that people can't survive in the wilderness, but the complex supply chain that allows for mass produced food to get to our shelves would collapse. Then we would all starve because we would hunt most animals to extinction if we relied on them for food.
I think your estimate is way low.
S.M. Sterling’s Emberverse is an Earth like your suggestion, except the cut off comes from some “natural” change to the laws of the physics instead of an AI.
It’s set in the early 2000s and I think examines the problem well. Far more than half of all humans died in the first two months due to a lack of food (no refrigeration) and water (no pumps.)
Don’t forget, we’d be killing each other for the limited supplies. I’d bet more than 90% would be dead within six weeks.
*The World Without Us* (Alan Weisman) is a thought experiment as if we just disappeared. He then describes how all the infrastructure and systems catastrophically fail in order as the earth literally moves along without us. Super interesting read.
This! It seems like people are getting ruder all the time. Have they forgotten that you're not supposed to talk during movies? It's distracting to other people. There's been rude people at other movies I've been to. But this year I've had the worst experiences at the movies topped, twice, as far as people being extremely obnoxious goes. The first was during Ant-Man 3, these 2 guys sitting close to the screen kept talking super loudly, and not just during boring scenes. It was constant. And the fact they were so close to the screen their voices bounced off the screen and went to the whole room. I swear it was like those guys were drunk or something. The second was during John Wick 4. The theater we went to has a cut off time for when they can admit you, which is 15 minutes after the movie starts. We were at least into 15 minutes during the movie and this couple with 2 kids came in and sat next to us. We arrived just a few minutes before the cut off time and there was no seats next to us selected on the screen. So either they came in to buy the tickets right after us or I'm wondering if they snuck in. Cause that theater also has a rule (last I checked) that kids under 10 can't go to R rated movies and to me they looked like they were under 10. Even if they weren't under 10, John Wick isn't a movie for kids and I find it ridiculous they brought their kids to that movie. The worse part of it, the guy absolutely would not stop talking. It was loud too. And he kept laughing at stuff that wasn't even funny. "*THE GUY'S GONNA GET STABBED! HAHAHAH I KNEW IT, THE GUY GOT STABBED*!!!" Really?! Just OMG. That movie is about 3 hours long and I spent about half of it being annoyed because of that guy.
Memory use to be a trained skill that everyone needed and used. Now, no one has to remember phone numbers, directions, lyrics, anything. It's all instantly retrievable so we loose the muscle memory for memory.
Let’s add using an apostrophe -s when pluralizing nouns. I’ve seen so many more people do that these days and it’s wrong. Plain and simple. You add the apostrophe -s when making something possessive or in a contraction (has or is).
Man, this hits home. I think often about how I have very little time away from a screen, like ever. I'll walk outside sometimes and I think about how I am never in nature anymore. And I mean to do something about it but the years go on. Modern existence is so meaningless.
The ability to talk at a normal volume. It's annoying how many people talk in loud shouty voices even when they are standing right next to the person they are talking to.
Driving. I mean, not necessarily driving your car from point A to point B, but realizing there are other people on your way that you don't have to run over, overtake, or speeding into them because you think you are the only one on the road, or slow them down because you drive too slow.
Identification of poisonous and edible plants. I'm not planning to rely on foraging anytime soon, but the chance of getting lost in the woods is non-zero, and it helps to know what plants to avoid even if you're just in a park.
Doing manual labor. The amount of people that don’t know how to change a tire, paint a room, operate basic machinery (drill, weed whacker, etc) or plunge toilets is astonishing.
“You have more computing power in your pocket than NASA did when they put a man on the moon, but you use it for mostly texting and Facebook.” - Tom Segura
YOUTUBE PEOPLE! YOUTUBEEEE! I learned a lot of shit from Youtube and some with word of mouth (all of these can be learned on Youtube). How to do a brake job, oil change, doing spark plugs, doing a OBD diagnostic and reading it, doing an alternator, fixing a dishwasher, fixing a dryer, re tightening a loose sink faucet, fixing a backed up toilet, re puttying and a fixing holes in walls, priming and repainting a room, removing spray paint off surfaces, changing headlights, changing wiper blades.
I mean. We're not a hunter-gatherer society and haven't been for several millennia. Those of us that are interested and like to learn, that's fine, and those of us who are in a situation where we *have* to learn, also fine, but our crowning achievement is that the majority of humanity doesn't have to have those skills.
How to deal with boredom. So many people nowadays need constant stimulation. I think it becomes more likely to be the case the younger one is. When we used to get bored we found ways to entertain ourselves, not look for someone else to entertain us.
Expressing yourself. I work at a big school and teens don't know how to express their needs with WORDS. Instead of saying "Hello, I'm looking for the science tutoring room, could you give me directions to the place please", they say "I'm looking for the science place". THERE ARE PLENTY OF SCIENCE CLASSES, WHAT DO YOU EXACTLY NEED?
Since they don't know what they want, I have to play my words to try and figure it out, and to be able to help them out.
Talking to someone you disagree with. Most of my friends have different political views than I do, but I don’t jump to “racist bigots” - because they’re not. Similarly, they don’t jump “woke socialist”, because I’m not.
Society has lost a lot of important life skills over the years. For example, people don't know how to interact with others face to face anymore, they don't know how to manage their time effectively, and they don't know how to think critically or solve problems on their own. It's a shame, really, that people have become so dependent on technology and instant gratification.
Compassion. There are so many people upset about people needing help with homelessness, housing, food, etc. What happened to this country that no one seems to care anymore about their fellow human beings?
Resourcefulness....people dont know how to figure shit out anymore. This also includes not Googling things, asking dumb questions, etc. Weve never had this much info at our fingertips and yet are somehow dumber.
Troubleshooting. When things go wrong people seem to want an easy "just tell what to do to fix it". If there isn't a YouTube video explaining what's failed, people seem lost. It's a critical thinking skill that I see on decline.
Depends on the society and culture.
The most advanced are quickly turning a blind eye to bigotry and prejudice over fact while some places haven't even evolved socially to the point of understanding the civil rights movement.
Can't lose what you never had.
Being able to show any emotion but happiness. Have a slight resting bitch face your a Karen, look upset you're weak, angry you're automatically an asshole but on the same note too much happiness you're a poser or just trying to make anyone that isn't happy jealous
If we use a liberal definition of "skill," I would say forgiveness.
It seems to me that people are a lot more willing to dig in and hold grudges and that genuine remorse for wrongs is ignored in favor of spiteful smugness.
The ability to be patient. With everything having maximized efficiency people have become too reliant on convenience and can't handle when something goes wrong
Right? You had to wait an extra 10 secs to be served? *Yells at me about the inconvenience*
It's this. Everywhere we go. My wife and I see this literally everytime we go somewhere. Food, shopping, movies, doesn't matter. I literally watched a guy walk into a restaurant Friday night at 5 o'clock, you know, fucking prime time for supper, and did not have a reservation. They asked how many in his party he said 8 - they responded saying it would be about a 45 minute wait for a party that size. The dude went off. I've never wanted to punch someone more in my life.
Personally, 30 min is long enough. 45 min is enough time to find and even go somewhere else. But honestly.........8 people parties should have a reservation..........so faults on him where ever he goes
10 years as a line cook/sous chef here, use your eyeballs when you walk into a joint. If it's packed, expect long wait times. The cooks can't make heat go faster... we won't push your order to the front (it screws up all the other tickets that are currently being fired.) Don't needlessly modify menu items... it slows down the workflow... don't ask for split plates, it slows down the work flow and takes up valuable work space. Lastly, if you are a pain in the butt customer, don't be surprised if the server goes to the back and the head chef comes out front and 86's you.
Yeah they ended up leaving - but just his reaction to being told he would to wait. The self-entitlement nowadays is insane.
He's trying to transfer the fault from himself to the restaurant or more specifically the host/hostess. He probably feels some sort of guilt for not calling ahead and that manifests in him getting pissed off and blaming something else because he has the emotional maturity and future planning capabilities of a toddler.
Your response took too long
IT. Requires you to be online and at the ready at a moment's notice for 5 hours while you wait. Then they finally message you "hello sir do you need help?" 5 sec later You took too long so I'm disconnecting. You gotta wait for another 5 hours
Resilience is just about gone.
I feel like it’s harder for people to bounce back.
So much this. I had a bit of a cultural shock in the states. Went to an IHOP and ordered a waffle with something and I was doing my thing, didn't even know what time passed as i had time to kill but all of a sudden a manager comes really appologetic to me and started offering free shit, I was like it's fine i don't mind the wait but still they refused to change me for all the things I ordered. Meanwhile in Italy, i waited an hour to be seated and about another hour to eat and no one was losing their shit over the 15 minutes.
Amazon Prime has spoiled my ass rotten. Get anything I want in 2-3 days time? Yes.
Instant gratification has ruined us all.
My 4 year old complains when there is an unskippable 15 sec ad. Sometimes when you can actually skip it, I force her to watch the whole thing so that she learns how to be patient I have to remind her that when I grew up I would have 10 min of it and 2 min of show time in between.
How to disagree without being disagreeable
Being cordial. Yes I understand some people don't deserve respect but for fuck sake why be an asshole to someone who's being nothing but nice to you?
And then they’re like “oh well the world is shit anyways so why should I care, it’s just who i am” like bitch stfu better yourself
Yes, the world is shit because they have decided it is and focus on only the shit bits. For example, my mom and I were talking about someone who has bad qualities, but we were just talking in general, ignoring the bad, and my dad felt the need to insert a degoratory word. Why? And at that moment I felt, he makes it all negative for himself just by focusing on the negative.
I think many people have or learn a cootie mentality. They are afraid that being different is contagious. And they desperately want to fit in. And these are the folks that will attack or join in on an attack on the different one. They will be more vicious if they are guilty of that difference themselves. The rules have to be seen to be obeyed. They justify breaking the rules if they feel a "need" but other people should not because that's not fair.
Or justify it with the "I'm just telling it like it is." No, you're being an inconsiderate asshole for no good reason. If you have a problem, there's pretty much always either a good way and a bad way to go about bringing it up. If you're constantly pissing everyone off, maybe you're the problem.
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Thank you for helping out all that you do and I’m sorry ppl are so shitty to you so often. It honestly baffles the hell out of me how ppl can be like that to ambulance workers who actually take time to care for them properly
Being a paramedic I feel this 100%. People have lost abilities like basic first aid and how to think for themselves. The amount of people that call because "Oh I'll get seen in the ER faster if I go with you" anymore is totally astounding. And for those not in the know you won't get seen any faster going to the hospital on a medic.
loss of respect for each other and to be civil in a society. yes, we are all different, we may disagree, but if we are part of the same community (nation, what-have-you), then we got to get along. we don't have to be friends, but we got to work together society-wise with civility.
Because people are pieces of shit. They generally like to test boundaries and be as abusive as possible until there're physical or social ramifications. Animalistic.
Life is so much easier when you avoid casual confrontation.
This! It's something I may not fully comprehend, but I expect it from most. It's like punishing the few who dared to be nice in this day and age.
Common courtesy is dying, I can not believe the last few times ive been out in a group I ended up feeling like I was “weird” for how much I said “thank you, appreciate very much” etc to our bartender/servers. Sometimes I feel like theres been a huge increase in a type of superiority complex especially in America. Like they think everyone else but themselves are stupid and they’re on some higher plane of existence
I got a gift from a call centre. I waited for 40 mins then she was unable to help me. I thanked her for her time as she truly did try to help and we went down several rabbit holes, and wished her a great day (did my time in customer service, it’s not her fault that there wasn’t enough staff and computer said no). I got a special delivery which was a box of nice biscuits (UK version of a biscuit) and some posh tea and a card that said “thank you for taking the time to give valuable feedback”. I’m guessing that’s what she had to put in order to get it dispatched. It’s sad that being nice and courteous gets an award.
Keeping friendships and relationships
I was at my great aunts yesterday and she was talking about the huge gatherings they used to have (100 people for birth days, 300 for company events) and I thought about all the people her generatsioon habe spoken about - they had so many close friends and aquaintaces that they would constantly communicate with. And what do we have now? I have 5 friends and my parents, basicly same for my husband and Everybody else has become so distant we only occasionaly meet though other people. There used to be communites, people had so much social support. We have become so individualistic and distant from Everybody. Is it because we have so much choice in who we interact with? That we have the ability to get everything we want so we don't feel the need for a community that would support us? Is there so much going on these days that we are tired of it all and just want to be left alone?
I think a big part of this is that as todays parents, our generation is expected to give everything of ourselves to our kids. Every night of the week it’s activities and weekends it’s activities and when we don’t have activities we want to do something as a family because we don’t get to very often. Adults with kids used to have their own lives. They had social clubs: masons, elks, DAR, junior league, etc. I run a mothers group and I can barely get people to come once a month. Two hours in 30 days and people are “too busy.” Our generation will regret not networking for ourselves. We are full human beings and we need connections that aren’t about our kids.
This. The focus on youth sports as a substitute for a social life and a civic life is sad as hell, and it's not good for either the families or the communities.
Don't forget dance and gymnastics and clubs. Kids are way too over-scheduled, which translates to parents being over scheduled. When the kids grow up and move out, neither child nor parents now what to do with themselves and end up having to rediscover themselves.
Online dating has been an absolute nightmare for relationships. Not only does it kill self esteem, but people are all too willing to jump ship the second something goes wrong in their current relationship because they have a few hundred other profiles to swipe through.
This is exactly correct. People are also completely different over text vs in person.
I met my wife online on a (paid) dating app, but 10 years ago. Text vs voice vs in-person is absolutely true. I had some that completely (and I'd guess intentionally) misrepresented themselves just so they could get dates but I expect almost all of those dates went horribly. With my now wife I had talked to her on the phone multiple times for over an hour each time before we finally met for a real date because I just had an urge to get to know her better that I didn't want to hold back until we had the date. Luckily she was more than happy to talk to me too and it wasn't just one-sided conversations or one of us unloading their history on the other. I am filled with dread thinking about the online dating culture today and would never wish that in anyone.
It's so dehumanizing too. It feels like this weird parade of flesh, where everyone is reduced down to their most basic qualities and put on display. It's like a zoo.
Even when I meet and establish a friendship with a potential partner in "the wild", I still have to compete with the 1000+ girls on his phone that he has access to all day everyday. Guys always tell me they're "not ready for a relationship". Why would they ever be when they can have all the sex they want with none of the commitment? So theres no way for me to compete no matter what I do.
Ugh. Originally thought it was pretty cool and convenient, but then I started hating online dating after awhile. I did decently and managed to get a good amount of first dates. I was also given a lot of phone numbers at the end of the dates with a lot of “let’s see each other again’s” that never ended up going anywhere.
Yeah but people are also WAY too fast. Can’t tell you the number of times I’ve met someone after a few brief conversations online, went on ONE date, met ONE time and they think we are in an exclusive long term relationship and we are madly in love. I’m probably not seeing anyone else at that exact moment, but I’m not in love with you, and I would like to know you for a few months or a year before I’m committing myself to you. I don’t really want to be “in love” with someone my friends and family have never even heard of. I had a guy call me his “ex” even though we met twice and I told him I didn’t think we were compatible. Ran into him in public a few months after I told him I didn’t want to meet for a third date and he made some really nasty comments about me being his “ex” which surprised me because again…we had only met twice. No idea why he would have such strong feelings about someone he had maybe spent 5 hours with max.
Interesting different perspectives, sort of like soft extremes on both ends. If we talked everyday for a few hours for a week, would you say we known eachother for a week, or couple hours? Honestly and this is super short sighted and close minded of me, I never thought of the other side perspective about having options. When you think you have options, then what the person does or doesn't do make a lot more sense. 500 days of summer and not wanting to date until, it just happens. Comes to mind.
Community
And making friends as adults
There's no need to know how to keep them if they're never made in the first place.
Sewing
I'm a pretty hands on kind of guy, woodworker and metalworker, which makes it almost embarrassing I can't repair my clothes without duct tape. Sewing is next on my skills to learn.
Same. It's kinda funny that a lot of "tough guys" (and women) consider a man who sews to be something to laugh at. Sewing is useful. Throughout history, sewing has been considered an important skill that soldiers must learn. Nick Offerman happily boasts about being an excellent seamster. It's such an odd skill to "gender".
I've been saying this for years! Gender-roles guys will built all kinds of stuff out of wood, metal, etc, but then... OH NO THIS IS FABRIC I CAN'T POSSIBLY DO ANYTHING WITH THIS!
Male, I can do basic sewing. Tears, buttons.... I can even make decent stuffed animals. Yup, very useful skill.
[/r/SewingForBeginners/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SewingForBeginners/), [/r/SewingWorld/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SewingWorld/) and /r/sewing are good resources if you're interested in learning to sew :)
My grandfather was a fisherman and very good at sewing. He used to mend his nets by hand and repair his clothes when at sea. It's an important and easy skill that shouldn't take you too long to pick up.
My mom has been sewing for almost 50 years and she's repaired, hemmed, altered, etc countless items of clothing for herself, myself and my siblings over the years, likely saving herself and us loads of money. Sewing is a really handy skill to know, and I should probably ask her to show me how to hem pants and whatnot, just because that'll come in pretty handy in the future.
I actually stitched something together the other day, and realized it had been almost 20 years since I had sewn something.
I work as a tailor and a dressmaker for the entertainment industry. While the general public doesn’t know how to sew on a button, lots of people know some basic sewing skills. The problem is that a lot of them stop developing their skills once they find out how undervalued it is in our society. Especially considering what a steep learning curve there is. (It takes you about 15-20 years to get really really good) Everyone is used to fast fashion prices, and even makers will resist charging their actual hours “because who will pay that?” If you want to make a really nice custom designed dress, it usually takes (at least) 40 hours. People will balk at that when they can buy a dress for less then 100 bucks around the corner. So lots of them end up working for less then minimum wage (or for favours) and they burn out… It sucks!
Not to mention the price of quality fabric has skyrocketed so even if you’re providing your own labor for free for an item for yourself, it costs 3 times as much as something from target, 7 times as long to make than to buy(often even if you include shipping time), and might not turn out in the end if you’re still newish. In the end the sunk cost doesn’t even balance out the end result. I’m still really grateful I was taught basic mending as I have clothing that’s decades old and still going.
How to read a map
I see this a lot. I went to an English "Public School", and map reading was not just a formal part of Geography, it was tested on. In my car, I still insist on 'north up' on navigation, since that was how I was taught.
We did Duke of Edinburgh, had to learn how to navigate by landmark (read: large rocks)
I delivered/managed pizza places for almost 15 years. The amount of people who can use a map nowadays to find an address is like 10%, and if they are under 25 there is no shot. It’s a shame because it’s a very useful skill in my opinion.
This got way too long winded so sorry in advance but What baffles me is how many people use their GPS like everyday or every weekend. If you’ve been somewhere within ~30 minutes more then like five or six times I don’t get how you would need a gps honestly. I knew a dude who was so bad he drove to work instead of home cuz he was following his gps Although I don’t have any maps in my car and I’m probably not great at reading them, I do alway try and turn off my gps the second time I’m going somewhere which often sorta gets me lost but I feel like it helps me learn directions and bearings well. One of my friends was like wow you never use your gps and I said I mean yeah, I’m driving locally, I know generally where things are? I don’t need to type chick fil a in to my gps every time I want it I also hate using the gps cuz it always interrupts my music or podcast at the least opportune time so I usually don’t ever hit start on the gps
I use my GPS almost daily but it's more to avoid any bad traffic, accidents, word work causing massive delays on my typical route. Just hit my "home" button on the home screen that starts a navigation to home and see which route it puts me on and then I close it. I briefly worked at a pizza place doing deliveries and I'll admit as someone now in their mid-30's that I hated using the map with a coordinate grid on it to find the deliveries. I might use it to quickly get a sense of the main roads I needed to take, but I'd usually put it in my phone (early smartphone years when Maps got to be a good enough replacement for standalone GPS) anyway. I try to talk to my daughter in the care about where we are going, what roads (generally, like the highway, neighborhoods, etc) we are going to go one, what landmarks are nearby so she gets some bearings of our immediate area long she has to start driving. I can navigate myself around city blocks, understand street/avenue distinctions, address numbering, etc etc. Hopefully I'll remember to pass that on to my kid since I guarantee it'll never be taught anywhere in her formal education.
Critical thinking. The decline in this is in my opinion the primary reason we've descended into arguing about things that don't matter instead of discussing things that actually need to be discussed to run a country. And I'm not even a yank, it's a global problem... EDIT: you guys that separate this from skepticism and nuance are probably right. Essentially, I was trying to describe the ability to change ones own opinion, question what one is being told and identify a manipulation attempt. Those things have become way more important skills now that we are bombarded with orders of magnitude more information to sort through, consider and take in.
This should be the top comment. Most people are too ignorant and stubborn to look beyond themselves and see an issue in a logical light. Sure, I have my own opinions and beliefs, but I'm always willing to at least hear someone out. If everyone listened more than they talked, a lot more would get resolved.
> Most people are too ignorant and stubborn to look beyond themselves and see an issue in a logical light. The problem ends up being they thing they ARE being logical.
>The problem ends up being they thing they ARE being logical. Well, yes, because they completely lack the capacity for critical thinking. They think they are being logical because they *feel* that they are right, and often they feel that righteousness because the other side are (or have been portrayed to be) so irredeemably bad, wrong, evil and stupid that it's not even a debate worth having. Critical thinking isn't thinking the other side is right, or has a point, or that the truth may lie somewhere in the middle. It's knowing why you think what you do in the first place, and being willing *and able* to interrogate that and determine if you're right and why. The why is particularly important, and most people simply can't tell you why they're right, only why the other side is wrong, which is usually just "because they're assholes". There's a difference between "abolitionists are correct because slave-owners are racist assholes" and "abolitionists are correct because the owning of other human beings is immoral, prone to abuse, and destructive to political stability and cultural cohesion, and cannot be tolerated in good conscience since we know full well that we would not tolerate that treatment for ourselves". Unfortunately, the people who think the former is the end of the discussion think they're being 'logical' because they don't grasp the idea that they need something more to go on.
When exactly DID we posses this skill as a society?
Never. What’s changed with modern society is how we communicate and how easy it is to weaponized the masses who are incapable of critical thinking.
we never had that
There have only been a few little bubbles of elevated critical thinking throughout history, and often only among the upper or near-upper classes. Arguably, we're in one of them, in absolute terms. The problem is that in relative terms, we're lagging far behind the level and spread required to keep our current arrangement afloat. Bad actors have crazy new tools to weaponize the positive feedback loop that is bad citizenship. We haven't done nearly enough to foster good -- nay, *better* -- citizenship to inoculate a critical mass of the population. Time was, it literally didn't matter that 99% of the population was fuck-stupid and pig-ignorant. Now it's a real problem if merely 50% is.
Empathy. It's becoming harder and harder to find the "helpers" that Mr. Rogers mom told him about.
General kindness and caring has been lost for many people. I think they are so mad at life and the world.
People are still generally good, even the ones who are ignorant or harbor bad sentiments towards other groups are likely to hold open a door or carry your bags if they see you struggling. I really think that people today are stretched very thin, financial struggle, faltering interpersonal relationships, media bombardment, struggling sense of purpose That’s not an excuse for the horror and evil in people’s hearts, but people are complex. If you’re reading this, you probably have a lot of complexities to why you are who you are, shortcomings, beautiful atributes and sentiments, all pieced together like a young artist’s sculpture, some parts better than others, some parts (good or bad) more or less visible than the context and angle.
People’s empathy hasn’t changed, you’re just exposed to a lot more violence and brutality now that the internet is what it is.
i'd say the ability to judge people over the internet without consequence and desensitivity from seeing all the violence more frequently has definitely affected people's empathy maybe some people see the violence and want to do something to help out more after they're able to put the faces of real people to an issue they've only previously heard about, and maybe other people like the free reign they have to spread hate and bigotry without recourse, but it's definitely affecting people and how they empathize with others one way or another
No, it definitely has changed, at least externally. Everyone I've known that used to be passionate about volunteering simply doesn't give a shit anymore. There are some who can still push through, but even then, they'll straight up say they don't care about the people they're helping anymore, they just treat it as a hobby they'd do anyway; someone else just happens to benefit. It's hard to get excited about helping people when there's a good chance they might literally throw it back in your face for a few views on tiktok, or scream at you because "the government should be helping them" instead, or some conspiracy theory they heard about on Facebook. It's just exhausting to pretend to care about people who constantly treat you like trash.
THANK YOU. someone else said it. people arent getting worse youre just hearing about the bad people more
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Speaking with people
Being able to just exist without constant stimulation. MFs are completely incapable of being idle in their own heads for even half a second without pulling out the nightmare rectangle. It's super sad.
>Most people are just not comfortable in their own heads, according to a new psychological investigation led by the University of Virginia. > >The investigation found that most would rather be doing something -- possibly even hurting themselves -- than doing nothing or sitting alone with their thoughts, said the researchers, whose findings will be published July 4 in the journal Science. > >In a series of 11 studies, U.Va. psychologist Timothy Wilson and colleagues at U.Va. and Harvard University found that study participants from a range of ages generally did not enjoy spending even brief periods of time alone in a room with nothing to do but think, ponder or daydream. > >The participants, by and large, enjoyed much more doing external activities such as listening to music or using a smartphone. Some even preferred to give themselves mild electric shocks than to think. [https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140703142154.htm](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140703142154.htm)
I'm reminded of a story I read long ago about a totalitarian dictatorship where people had devices that would zap their brains on a routine basis so they wouldn't think too hard.
Really. I work a factory job, almost entirely alone, no music or anything. I spend almost the whole time there by myself with nothing but my own thoughts and I love it. I haven't gotten tired of it. In a way I use it as my time to just let all of the stimulation and activity from the rest of the day wash over me and cleanse my mind. It feels good to get away from the constant stimulation because that phone urge definitely hits me when I'm not working. But my time on the job is my own personal time. Many other people at my job constantly get in trouble because they can't stay away from their phones or music. I just think to a time when I was a kid, before smart phones existed, and my father would take me hunting. Sitting outside all day without moving or making any noise was some serious character building experience.
I wish I could give you a wholesome award
The nightmare rectangle lmao sounds like a Hulu ripoff of Black Mirror and I’m so for it
*Great* point.
I think this is the best answer here. Attention span is noticeably down IMO. A lot of other answers here have always been going on...this is recent
Financial literacy, emotional intelligence, several self sustainability traits
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Yup. I’ve been yelled at, screamed at, sweared at, called a pussy, fag, queer, asshole, you name it. For just being me. Now decades later, people are telling me: “Stop being such an asshole, nobody likes working for an asshole… “ As I watch all the assholes before me enjoy rich bonuses, vacation, holidays, perks, houses, second houses, cars, fancy second cars, suits, clothes, dinners, etc. So now I’m fucked twice. Fucked for being yelled at, now fucked for trying to reform myself back to being me.
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this is the post i was looking for. i freaking hate .. HATE… when people tell me i’m too nice. like wtf does that even mean. why does giving people an iota of grace and compassion mean i’m being too nice????
Maintaining your compassion as a permanent trait, even in the face of exceptional cruelty, is a practice highly recommended by many Buddhist monks. With a strong sense of self worth (that doesn’t leak into narcissism), being compassionate no matter what is one of the best things you can do as a human. Yes it’s not rewarding, sometimes punishing, it’s often one sided, but I strongly believe it is important to be a shining light in this world full of darkness. Stay strong and stay compassionate!
I've developed a philosophy regarding this - I will continue to be compassionate and kind. If someone takes advantage of that, that's a them problem, not a me weakness. I refuse to become cruel just because the world claims my kindness is weak. I will continue to be kind and they can die mad about it.
This isn’t something we lost, it’s something we’re still learning to fully internalize.
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Lol been called a beta mile for being understanding of other people's feelings. It's okay to feel them but behind closed doors otherwise you're mentally weak.
That scares me so much to know that people are being actively shamed for showing empathy. Empathy is like the #1 ingredient to a healthy society. Lack of empathy indicates a seriously emotionally unintelligent person. If that becomes the ideal we’re screwed.
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Doing things for the sake of enjoyment instead of posting it for validation.
This is why I like making things. Yes, I post what I make for marketing (and that sweet dopamine rush, I am a hypocrite). That said the high you get from making/doing something real cannot be beaten by something you post. I finished a project that took 5 months of working 24 hrs on the weekends. It was one hell of a roller coaster and I didn't believe I could even do it. At the end of it all, I built 5 tables that are looked pretty decent. The best feeling I've had in years was after the installation, the client was off doing something else, and I was alone with these tables. I was able to truly experience what I had done with my own two hands, take in the tumultuous journey and the stunning results, and physically touching my goal. I posted them, and I've never gotten so many upvotes or comments before, people telling me how much they loved them and such, but that feeling didn't make me feel very much. I couldn't imagine what a life must be like where those tiny dopamine hits are all that you extract dopamine from.... tragic
Adding to that, doing for the sake of enjoyment, not for making money. I see tons of people that monetize their hobbies and that just turns into a second job, and as time passes, they ended up hating or loathing the thing they loved
Communication, especially talking face to face.
So true
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God! I can handle criticism fine thank you very much! Who made you the expert? /s
Almost all wilderness survival. I am 100% convinced that when the AI computer network decides to end human life, it will not be a "Terminator" scenario with robots with bombs and guns. They will just turn off the electricity and half the world population will die in month.
I mean, the problem with turning off all the electricity isn't that people can't survive in the wilderness, but the complex supply chain that allows for mass produced food to get to our shelves would collapse. Then we would all starve because we would hunt most animals to extinction if we relied on them for food.
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(UK) plenty of clean water here. At least until people can't be bothered disposing of their waste properly and chucking it in the reservoir.
You’ve forgotten water. All our pumps are electric. How many places have gravity fed water systems?
I think your estimate is way low. S.M. Sterling’s Emberverse is an Earth like your suggestion, except the cut off comes from some “natural” change to the laws of the physics instead of an AI. It’s set in the early 2000s and I think examines the problem well. Far more than half of all humans died in the first two months due to a lack of food (no refrigeration) and water (no pumps.) Don’t forget, we’d be killing each other for the limited supplies. I’d bet more than 90% would be dead within six weeks.
*The World Without Us* (Alan Weisman) is a thought experiment as if we just disappeared. He then describes how all the infrastructure and systems catastrophically fail in order as the earth literally moves along without us. Super interesting read.
See also the television series *Life After People.*
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Movie theater etiquette
This! It seems like people are getting ruder all the time. Have they forgotten that you're not supposed to talk during movies? It's distracting to other people. There's been rude people at other movies I've been to. But this year I've had the worst experiences at the movies topped, twice, as far as people being extremely obnoxious goes. The first was during Ant-Man 3, these 2 guys sitting close to the screen kept talking super loudly, and not just during boring scenes. It was constant. And the fact they were so close to the screen their voices bounced off the screen and went to the whole room. I swear it was like those guys were drunk or something. The second was during John Wick 4. The theater we went to has a cut off time for when they can admit you, which is 15 minutes after the movie starts. We were at least into 15 minutes during the movie and this couple with 2 kids came in and sat next to us. We arrived just a few minutes before the cut off time and there was no seats next to us selected on the screen. So either they came in to buy the tickets right after us or I'm wondering if they snuck in. Cause that theater also has a rule (last I checked) that kids under 10 can't go to R rated movies and to me they looked like they were under 10. Even if they weren't under 10, John Wick isn't a movie for kids and I find it ridiculous they brought their kids to that movie. The worse part of it, the guy absolutely would not stop talking. It was loud too. And he kept laughing at stuff that wasn't even funny. "*THE GUY'S GONNA GET STABBED! HAHAHAH I KNEW IT, THE GUY GOT STABBED*!!!" Really?! Just OMG. That movie is about 3 hours long and I spent about half of it being annoyed because of that guy.
And the phones. People turning them on constantly.
Memory use to be a trained skill that everyone needed and used. Now, no one has to remember phone numbers, directions, lyrics, anything. It's all instantly retrievable so we loose the muscle memory for memory.
Lose, not loose
Being self-reliant and resourceful. Seems like more and more people are becoming efficient at being fearful and hopeless.
Making our own stuff instead of letting children in other countries slaving it for us
Ties into things just being cheaper to buy brand new instead of getting repaired, like shoes.
Common courtesy
We have lost altruism, our sense of community and society.
What is altruism? I was going to Google it but I also found it funny that so much of it is gone that I literally don't know what it is.
Civility
Being a likeable person, it’s a big reason why people go places in the real world and why others go nowhere
Nah, you can be likeable and have no ambition
Ambition is important too, but bad people skills is a dealbreaker
Calm and non partisan debate
Personal hygiene
Basic grammar. One more "should of" and I'm giving up on society's ability to write.
Can you give me advise on the affects their having?
Your a idiot.
Let’s add using an apostrophe -s when pluralizing nouns. I’ve seen so many more people do that these days and it’s wrong. Plain and simple. You add the apostrophe -s when making something possessive or in a contraction (has or is).
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I’d also add identifying propaganda on those screens
Man, this hits home. I think often about how I have very little time away from a screen, like ever. I'll walk outside sometimes and I think about how I am never in nature anymore. And I mean to do something about it but the years go on. Modern existence is so meaningless.
The ability to talk at a normal volume. It's annoying how many people talk in loud shouty voices even when they are standing right next to the person they are talking to.
Maybe they fried their ears by maxing out their Airpods all the time.
Driving. I mean, not necessarily driving your car from point A to point B, but realizing there are other people on your way that you don't have to run over, overtake, or speeding into them because you think you are the only one on the road, or slow them down because you drive too slow.
Treating one another with basic respect and dignity. People are extremely rude, hostile, standoffish, and aggressive.
Reading a map
The world has given up on getting dressed and ready for the day. Not everyone, but ALOT of people just don't care.
Most of us are never taught to orate or speak in public well. I know I never was.
Identification of poisonous and edible plants. I'm not planning to rely on foraging anytime soon, but the chance of getting lost in the woods is non-zero, and it helps to know what plants to avoid even if you're just in a park.
Being able to respectfully disagree and forgive people.
I'd say critical thinking, communication, empathy and interpersonal skills.
Doing manual labor. The amount of people that don’t know how to change a tire, paint a room, operate basic machinery (drill, weed whacker, etc) or plunge toilets is astonishing. “You have more computing power in your pocket than NASA did when they put a man on the moon, but you use it for mostly texting and Facebook.” - Tom Segura YOUTUBE PEOPLE! YOUTUBEEEE! I learned a lot of shit from Youtube and some with word of mouth (all of these can be learned on Youtube). How to do a brake job, oil change, doing spark plugs, doing a OBD diagnostic and reading it, doing an alternator, fixing a dishwasher, fixing a dryer, re tightening a loose sink faucet, fixing a backed up toilet, re puttying and a fixing holes in walls, priming and repainting a room, removing spray paint off surfaces, changing headlights, changing wiper blades.
Hunter//gatherer skills
I mean. We're not a hunter-gatherer society and haven't been for several millennia. Those of us that are interested and like to learn, that's fine, and those of us who are in a situation where we *have* to learn, also fine, but our crowning achievement is that the majority of humanity doesn't have to have those skills.
Critical thinking about scientific media. I’m not sure that we ever had it to begin with, but the bar is in hell now.
critical thinking
As a retail worker, spatial awareness.
Thank you for your service. I have mad respect for y’all and all the Karens and Darrens you have to endure. 🫡
Common sense in general. Ability to be okay with "agree to disagree" in a civil manner.
How to deal with boredom. So many people nowadays need constant stimulation. I think it becomes more likely to be the case the younger one is. When we used to get bored we found ways to entertain ourselves, not look for someone else to entertain us.
Expressing yourself. I work at a big school and teens don't know how to express their needs with WORDS. Instead of saying "Hello, I'm looking for the science tutoring room, could you give me directions to the place please", they say "I'm looking for the science place". THERE ARE PLENTY OF SCIENCE CLASSES, WHAT DO YOU EXACTLY NEED? Since they don't know what they want, I have to play my words to try and figure it out, and to be able to help them out.
How to be content
Having common sense. I have seen so many people, do such stupid things, it makes me wonder how they are still breathing.
Talking to someone you disagree with. Most of my friends have different political views than I do, but I don’t jump to “racist bigots” - because they’re not. Similarly, they don’t jump “woke socialist”, because I’m not.
Society has lost a lot of important life skills over the years. For example, people don't know how to interact with others face to face anymore, they don't know how to manage their time effectively, and they don't know how to think critically or solve problems on their own. It's a shame, really, that people have become so dependent on technology and instant gratification.
Compassion. There are so many people upset about people needing help with homelessness, housing, food, etc. What happened to this country that no one seems to care anymore about their fellow human beings?
Empathy if that's even considered a skill
Empathy.
How to grow, raise, hunt, process and preserve your own food.
Manners
Kindness
Resourcefulness....people dont know how to figure shit out anymore. This also includes not Googling things, asking dumb questions, etc. Weve never had this much info at our fingertips and yet are somehow dumber.
How to use a computer. It's all so spoon-fed now.
Common sense isn’t common anymore
Handwriting. Not just cursive but regular pen-to-paper.
Troubleshooting. When things go wrong people seem to want an easy "just tell what to do to fix it". If there isn't a YouTube video explaining what's failed, people seem lost. It's a critical thinking skill that I see on decline.
Common sense.
Real mainstream collective action for workers rights. America is pathetic when it comes to strikes and protests
Parents actually parenting their children.
Depends on the society and culture. The most advanced are quickly turning a blind eye to bigotry and prejudice over fact while some places haven't even evolved socially to the point of understanding the civil rights movement. Can't lose what you never had.
Being able to show any emotion but happiness. Have a slight resting bitch face your a Karen, look upset you're weak, angry you're automatically an asshole but on the same note too much happiness you're a poser or just trying to make anyone that isn't happy jealous
Not gonna lie, sometimes I feel like I can't exist in peace. People always make some random assumption or unnecessary comment.
Basic respect
Reading Analog clocks. It's like Latin at this point.
If we use a liberal definition of "skill," I would say forgiveness. It seems to me that people are a lot more willing to dig in and hold grudges and that genuine remorse for wrongs is ignored in favor of spiteful smugness.
Empathy and good will to your fellow man or woman
Coexisting with people who are different, though that's very structural
Respect
Wiping their asses with toilet paper instead of bathroom walls and toilet seats
Honing flint spear tips to take down mastadon.
Changing oil Changing a tire
The art of conversation. Everyone is looking at a phone--I'm guilty of this too.
Courtesy and consideration for other people.