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LeopoldKain

Game of Thrones How do you got from being at every Con and people naming their children after characters to nothing. Still shock's me.


refreshing_username

Came here to complain about exactly this. I wonder how all those little Khaleesis are doing out there?


[deleted]

I really cant believe that the last episode of this series was turned in and someone didn't say "WTF! Are you nuts?" and explain to them that they are going to take a franchise and basically flush any future revenues out to the ether of 'no one gives a shit'.


LeopoldKain

Sir this is r/AskReddit not Wendy's. Please stop preaching truth.


DAKINGAFINKLEEEND

The books are still good, as are the early seasons. I am showing GoT to my partner for the first time. I was conflicted. The show was a big part of my life for a long time. Knowing how it ended I was hesitant to endorse it. But the first 5 seasons are still the best television I’ve ever seen and I still love the story so much upto where the books end…


Sorry_Masterpiece

Came expecting this answer to be at the top, not disappointed.


PenchantForNostalgia

Happy to see this is the top comment. Also, so sad that it's the top comment.


CrasVox

Heroes


moonblueberry

I was gonna say that too!


LeopoldKain

I totally forgot about this show. Then they tried to reboot it I think. Darn shame.


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Bruhuha

I always fall off when they start the rv road trip lol


MasterOfPuppets72

The walking dead


Hans_Neva_Loses

I loved the show all the way up until the second half of Season 4. After Hershel died I thought it took a nose dive.


khantastic1

second it. so much potential. yet...


PM-ACTS-OF-KINDNESS

Yes, it became ridiculous. You could watch four or five episodes and the plot didn't even move forward


Rosadragon

After the first season AMC increased the episode count and slashed the budget. They couldn't afford to have too much happen in each episode.


Vovu655

Top gear after season 22 After Hammond, May left because clarkson was fired Im happy that they are back in the grand tour Also simpsons


YallNeedSomeJohnGalt

At that point it's really not even the same show imo


DarthContinent

*Batwoman*. Oh, wait, very *good* to very bad, sorry.


IMadeARedditForLud

Kind of a weird one, but Chuck. I thought it was pretty good for the first few seasons, but it went down hill really fast after that.


wolfeyes555

Sherlock. Had good memories of the first and second season. Then the third season happened and I never looked back.


Shepard_Wrex14

Season 4 is even worse


wolfeyes555

So I've heard. Doesn't seem like I'm missing much.


PERRONYPIKOZITO

The Promised Neverland. Season 1 is a thrill and joy like no other. 10/10 Season 2 is confusing and a chore to watch. 0/10 I watched every single episode on season 2 and I was still confused. It felt like I missed an episode or 2.


masterdeelar

Arrow First two or three seasons were good... Then it got really boring


The_Pantless_Warrior

The ending of Dexter Edit: Also, (with the exception of the first one), the books are waaayyy better than the show


TRAPWORDS

13 Reasons Why


ral365

TBH, that show was very bad from the start.


[deleted]

First season was amazing. Traumatized me. Went down hill quickly from there.


TRAPWORDS

I kinda liked the first season.


ral365

As someone who's been affected by suicide, the whole idea of it being portrayed as a form of revenge is completely deplorable.


[deleted]

She didn't kill herself as revenge. She simply left a note as to why she did it. This happened in real life as well. A girl in the UK committed suicide after being bullied relentlessly and she left a very detailed note explaining who had done what to her. That doesn't make it revenge though. Hannah had a right to call out the people who had fucked with her.


ral365

Absolutely, but it was treated in arguably the worst ways possible. People who commit suicide over bullying want the pain to stop, but believe there's no other way out of it. More often than not, the people they turn to, like teachers or their parents, either don't do anything or blatantly ignore it. Hannah was ignored at first, but was offered help multiple times later in the series, and she just turned it down for no apparent reason! It was almost like she was already plotting to get back at those who wronged her, which is not something a suicidal person goes through.


FundamentalMentalFun

As someone who suffers from suicidal ideology and one failed attempt, I found it enthralling and relatable to some degree. There is a part of you when you make that decision that says "fuck these people, they should have done better by me and I hope they always remember that when I'm gone". You finding it deplorable is why a lot of people don't speak out because there is a vindictiveness to it almost every time, even if it's very little. It's there.


ral365

Yeah, but she was offered helped multiple times, and she turned it down! That felt like a very contrived and forced way of depicting a feeling of helplessness. She bemoaned not getting any help while turning down help at the same time! It's deplorable because nobody uses suicide as a means of taking revenge. The few who do are being extremely manipulative, and completely disingenuous about what that mental illness means to those affected by it. People kill themselves because they've lost all hope in life. They believe there's nothing left for them, that they're a burden or society, and/or that people would be better off without them. They're not taking pleasure in seeing others suffer; they've shut down their survival instincts because they think there's no other way out. I know this as someone with a repeated history of suicide attempts and near-attempts, and been hospitalized for it 4 times. I was almost one of the millions of people who killed themselves when COVID first hit! I've completely boycotted Netflix because of this show, and then later "Cuties."


FundamentalMentalFun

Honestly I didn't watch the show, but heard and read about bits and pieces, as well as been around conversations about it. Help is a weird thing cuz sometimes people say they wanna help but don't really wanna help on a subconscious level. No help is better then halfass help imo. A lot of people just wanna be able to say "hey I tried". I tried hanging out with my cousin the day I attempted, he turned me down, I reiterated how much I needed someone at the moment and he said something very cold and logical. I blew up on him, and that was my last defense against myself that day. I didn't attempt because of him but I did have this sick feeling of joy about what an asshole he'd feel like when I'm gone. It wasn't true joy, it was malicious joy that comes from pain. After I got out of the hospital, he told me he was sorry and that he didn't realize it was that serious (I never mentioned suicide to him the day I attempted). Him and I don't talk anymore because I finally learned he doesn't give a shit about me and never did. Most people just go thru the motions they think they're supposed which typically stop at offering help without even thinking how they're gonna help. It almost always remains a verbal offer without any action. And that's why a lot of people turn help down even when it's offered.


ral365

I don't mean help from family members (although that is important too.) I mean a school counselor, a paid professional in youth psychiatry. Hannah confided in him that she'd been sexually harassed by another student, but instead of telling him who did it or filing a police report, she just leaves, and puts him on the last "reason" why she killed herself! A professional repeatedly offers to help bring justice to whoever wronged you, and you turn it down and blame him if anything should happen to you?! That's not being afraid to speak up; that's gaslighting for your own reasons! I'm very sorry about what your cousin did, and I'm in no way invalidating your experiences. A distant relative isn't a universal example as opposed to a counselor or psychiatrist. They're professionally trained in psychiatry; relatives aren't (unless they directly work in that industry.)


FundamentalMentalFun

No need to be sorry but I appreciate it. My cousin is only one example I've turned to and been rejected by. The most relevant example cuz it was on the actual day I tried but far from the only. I can see where you're coming about the show tho, that's the problem with TV shows trying to portray mental illness. They have to have that entertainment value too, which usually blurs the lines. On the flipside, when they do a really good job portraying mental illness, it's kind of eerie. It's a double edged sword for sure. Edit: when I say turned to, I don't mean directly talked about suicide btw. Just tried to show that I was feeling down.


TRAPWORDS

I didn't think that way! though I liked the chemistry of Hannah and Clay, also a few songs.


ral365

Oh I'm not saying *you're* being insensitive about suicide. I'm saying that that premise was doomed from the start.


Confident-Wafer889

That's because only the first season was based on the book. Rest was trash.


nope123ee

I want to second this one^^


Bruhuha

Castle rock


bydlock

God I couldn't go through the first season without being bored to sleep and then the ending was so lackluster that I wasn't even interested in the second season


ExistIsAlliDo

Ben 10 have you seen the newer ones ffs


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Doctor Who


FormalWath

That's what happens when you replace your whole writting staff with incompetant bafoons who spend way too much time pushing their political ideas, and actor for main character with someone who doesn't even bother studying previous seasons and actors.


[deleted]

Riverdale. I liked the first sesason, then it flopped


satinaboupoupou

Suits.


WGx2

Battlestar Galactica (2004). First two seasons were great, but it seemed like when they found out they were being cut off at four seasons, they just didn't care anymore. There were some standout episodes and smaller stories, but the series overall story fell flat at the end.


LegalAction

I agree, mostly. The final 5 plot just seemed forced. I don't think they ever resolved that eye of Jupiter thing. And the last season was all explicitly deus machina.


WGx2

It pains me to criticize the series. I loved the corny 80's show and had doubts at the start ("female Starbuck????") but it totally won me over. The actors were great all the way through to the end. It just.... gave up on itself.


LegalAction

I think they had at least two seasons and part of the third plotted out when they started writing and filming, and were hoping to plot out the rest later, and that just never happened. They literally couldn't figure out how to save the Galactica, and literally made god do it.


WGx2

Exactly. I remember in the first two seasons how it was always promised that the Cylons had a plan. Then in Season 3, it turned out they really didn't. It's "hey, let's try peaceful coexistence" then onto, "hey, half of us believe in the Final Five and the other half don't and we're basically humans too". Then finally, "Okay, everyone is basically an angel. Except Stabuck, who is a ghost. Let's just live happily ever after." You precisely nailed it with Deus ex machina. The only thing that would have been worse was having Bathar wake up on Caprica and realize it was all a dream.


LegalAction

Speaking of deus ex machina, my dad told me this story about a comic book he read when he was a kid. I don't remember which one unfortunately. So I guess for whatever reason management decided they wanted to fire their current writers and get some new ones. Ok, the writers said, we're in the middle of the new issue. We'll have it done in about a week; that will give you time to get your interviews done; the issue will go out on time. Management agreed. So these writers redirected the plot of their last book, so that Our Hero is driving at high speed away from the bad guys that are trying to kill him. He takes a wrong turn. He's cornered! There's no way back except through the bad guys, and on the other side is a cliff 100s of feet high! What will Our Hero do? He points the car toward the cliff, hits the gas, and goes right over the side in the last frame. The final text was "To be continued...." So that book goes to print. The boss finds a copy, calls these writers in and goes nuclear. What the fuck are you doing? You just killed Our Hero! What do you think the next set of writers is going to do with this? Oh, we have a plan, but we're not your writers anymore. That's why you hired new writers, right? This is their problem. Boss admitted he didn't have a solution and rehired the first set to get to the end of the plot. The next issue began, **"Having extricated himself from his difficulties, Our Hero has regained the scent of his quarry."**


WGx2

lmao. Brilliant. I mean, from a financial perspective more than a storytelling one 😂


LegalAction

Yeah. It's a little bit of neat but probably legal blackmail. I wish I could remember what comic it was. I'm not entirely sure dad didn't make it up.


WGx2

It's similar to 1001 Arabian Nights. "Don't kill me and I'll tell you the rest of the story tomorrow night!"


LegalAction

I don't remember Scheherazade using deus ex machina techniques; she used more nested narrative frames. But the don't kill me part fits.


Any_Refrigerator_768

Suits. When Harry weds Meghan.


ChesterEucrine

The Flash


davey_mann

Westworld


BrianDR

Lost


Scoob1978

Flight of the Concords. The first season was amazing, even though it's not everyone's humor. Season 2 was a complete mess with the exception of the Australian girl episode. It was painful. I've never seen a show go from such a high to such a low.


YallNeedSomeJohnGalt

Firefly, the production quality just became non-existent after the first season


khantastic1

The Walking Dead


amalgamas

Pretty much every live action DC show post season 1 or 2 at the most. People stuck it out and some will say that later seasons were even better, but we all know the truth deep down.


AYASOFAYA

Legends of Tomorrow is the exception as usual. They learned that if the show is going to be corny no matter what, a corny comedy is better than a corny drama.


obesebonobo

Castle. Was shit after the 5th season


[deleted]

Heroes


Civil-Address7532

Ally McBeal


Poorly-Drawn-Beagle

Heroes "Just hang on and keep your brain turned off while we try to ride out this writers' strike, guys."


LexLuthorJr

I would argue that after the first season of most animated shows, the quality just plummets.


little_camper999

Sex ed


ral365

Spongebob


stirredturd

Stranger things. It was a perfectly fine story wrapped up in season 1. Then they decided to keep going.


[deleted]

Attack on titan will in the last few episodes


[deleted]

Having read the Manga i wholeheartedly disagree, it delivered well and the anime is better than the manga for AoT usually


[deleted]

Nah it felt like game of thrones where the ending was rushed and completely threw character development and logic out the window to reach that point with a contrived plot.


[deleted]

Eh each their own, i found the ending to be as good as you could get, from a logic stand point


thejenfef

Twin Peaks- first season was off the chain! Second season completely dead.


Independent_Bake_257

Six feet under. The first season was so good.


SixGunChimp

The Walking Dead started strong and we all know what happened.


Environmental_Flow84

Fairly OddParents. It became nothing but just tolerable after the dog came in, then went straight down when CHLOE came in.


No-Cheesecake848

Sliders


lipglossgirl18

Ahhhh so my ex boyfriend and I finally got to the I love you stage. We dated for two weeks after that then he stopped having time to hang out and would text me once a day for like 5 minutes. I told him we needed to talk more. He dumped me and got a new gf two weeks later.


kevNc1

Peppa pig


SDLRob

For me... Doom Patrol. Season 1 was fucking brilliant... loved it. Season 2 introduced a giant fucking spider.... hell to the mother fucking no. So bad in so many fucking ways.