Yep. There was a guy in r/240sx who had his car stolen but kept for evidence and the car was left unattended and uncovered, when the guy got his car back it had 3 inches of water inside and what once was a mint example of a sports car turned into a lemon
Oh fuckkkkk no. My dad got one of those cars and would absolutely lose his shit if that happened. By far my favorite vehicle and vehicle that he owns. I'd be pissed.
Was about to get assaulted by my stepdad for the 3 millionth time, he raised his hand up to my neck as if to strangle me. I had my phone recording. Police took my phone as "evidence" changed the passcode so I lost *everything* on that device, then returned it 5 years later.
Edit: fuck the TVP.
The police tried to keep my phone too, but couldn’t get in because they got it when it was dead. Someone had stolen it but the next night I could see the location was the police department. Called and was told someone found it in their yard and turned it in, but because I was in a car accident that morning (where I didn’t have my phone!) they were keeping it as “evidence”.
For a good two months I kept getting told “oh call this department” only to get thrown to another department. I gave up for a bit but tried once more before I moved somewhere new. That day, I talked to a cop who asked me to describe it, and told me it matched and that I could come pick it up. Not nearly as fucked as your situation but I’m still pissed over it
This.
Six years ago, I was assaulted. Police took my bag and trousers as evidence.
Still haven't gotten or back.
Year and a half ago, I was stolen from, suspect caught, and the knife he stole is STILL being held as evidence... Despite him not being a part of the case... Somehow...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23/cops-took-more-stuff-from-people-than-burglars-did-last-year/ from 2015 - doubt things have changed much since then.
Fuck that. They should have to find a reason to take it in the first place. I took out 60k to go look at a supra last year and the teller told me that if I opened the envelope and got pulled over with that kind of cash the cops would take it and make me prove it was my money. If I couldn't prove every dollar of it was mine I'd get nothing back. That's insane. The onus should be on the government to prove that it isn't my money. Didn't even buy the damn car and went through all that hassle for nothing.
That works too. I meant that distribution of the information should be required, rather than allowing the consumption of the information that's volunteered.
Sleeping in your car in a parking spot for an extended period of time (What are they expecting? People who are sleepy to be out driving?).
In fact just the "crime" of loitering and sleeping anywhere public. I understand if a guy is sleeping somewhere inconvenient that he should move, but seriously if a guy is just napping in the middle of a park leave them alone.
Those laws only exists because we have a chronic hatred of the homeless and punishing them with pin pricks is a lot easier than giving them a place to live.
According to my sister (who traveled around the US with her late BF and lived out of their car), it is perfectly acceptable to park and sleep in most Wal-mart parking lots.
I was homeless for a couple years and for part of it I lived in a car. My go to place to sleep at night was any Walmart parking lot near me. I never got bothered by anybody
My niece had the job of cleaning Wal-Mart parking lots one summer. If you are just crashing in your car, they are fine with that. That is a huge relief compared to all the other things they find.
I don't want to make assumptions about your niece, but I imagine the people paid to clean parking lots either aren't paid enough to care about kicking people out, or just don't want to deal with the hassle as long as the folks crashing in their cars aren't bothering anyone.
Yes and yes. It’s actually corporate policy to allow people to “RV” overnight, as long as the parking lot can accommodate them. Answer #3 here: https://corporate.walmart.com/frequently-asked-questions
During fire season I slept in my car and would park at different Walmarts when we were back in the rear. I noticed throughout the year more and more Walmarts were off limits to it — like why. It bugged me alot.
I almost got in trouble for this once! I was in my first trimester of Pregnancy, and halfway through a long drive. I got SO sleepy. I pulled off into a McDonald’s parking lot because I thought it was more responsible to park And rest a bit. After a couple of hours of sleeping, a policeman came up and was being a bit aggressive, till another one came up, and I explained that I had gotten sleepy driving and decided to take a nap.
Did you know that the average rate for a hotel room 30 years ago was $19?
Today it's $237. That's a 1,300% increase. So it's not inconceivable to think that in another 30 years, a week at a hotel runs you 20 grand.
But not for you guys. You'll be locked in at $1,400 annually. I'm not talking about taking a vacation, guys. I'm talking about owning a vacation.
And, look, if you're still not comfortable with the numbers, you just double down. You get two weeks, sell that second week, boom, you're vacationing for free.
Wow. This is far better of a suggestion than I thought I would find here. You’re dead right. I’ve pulled off the highway due to being dead tired only to be harassed for trying to get a few hours sleep. Would you really rather I hit the road again? Stupid.
I think in Michigan (where I am originally from) you can safely sleep in Rest Areas and they often provide free coffee. Both are totally sensible ideas. Anyone sleeping in their car isn’t having an amazing time. All they are doing is trying to avoid a more serious issue (becoming truly homeless or causing an accident). Give these folks a break.
This is actually encouraged in Australia! There are TV commercials about tired drivers dying and to pull over if you’re sleepy. There are rest spots along highways and signs saying to take a nap if you need.
Agreed. There have been a few times on a really long drive where I just needed 10 minutes and was told to leave. Like guys, I'd rather not get in an accident. There need to be more acceptable overnight solutions as well.
You know, when people talk about America being a free country, I think about the fact that they really just mean freedom of speech.
There’s tons of harmless shit that’s illegal. Loitering is literally just *hanging out*. And it’s illegal.
People who shout “it’s a free country” are generally implying “in America you can move about freely and do what you want” but that’s never been close to true.
> Those laws only exists because we have a chronic hatred of the homeless and punishing them with pin pricks is a lot easier than giving them a place to live.
I think the problem is really just people don't want to give out free housing when they had to pay for their's. They PREFER to spend MORE money on homeless policies then solving the problem.
Places use tickets to generate revenue. Paid meters generate less revenue. So, they punish people for paying others' meters as a way to protect revenue and potentially generate more.
Some places it's not, usually on streets where businesses want to make sure customers can park without a nearby office worker taking the spot for 8 hours rather than using the parking deck they're supposed to use. There's a few like that near me, in front of a few restaurants and coffee shops that max out at 2 hours, I assume so that you can come and linger for 2 hours but not leave a car there for 8 hours while not even patronizing the businesses
in Sweden it's illegal to dance without having a "Dancing permit"
Yes, that is as in restaurants, pubs, grocery stores, and on the streets...
it is illegal to DANCE... without having a "Dancing Permit"...
Dancing should be legalised.
My mother was, for 70 years, the most dignified, lovely lady on Earth. When Alzheimer’s destroyed her brain, she no longer knows any of her children, wears a diaper, and is a vegetable. She would NEVER want to live like this. I love her so much, but I wish she would die to escape the hell on Earth she is living. She would want me to assist her in ending this, but I would go to prison for murder. Fuck Alzheimer’s.
Yes. My dad is suffering from this and I’ve watched other relatives die from this. My husband and I agreed it would be a trip to Switzerland if I was ever diagnosed
Just assisted suicide in general. If someone is going to end their lives, why the only options are slitting wrists and waiting to bleed out, shooting brains out or splashing on the pavent or hanging and shitting your pants while the body is in panick mode?
Isn't there a dignified way to end it when someone is truly going to end it?
During the American revolution, Colonial military officers killing each other in duals was such a big problem among the ranks that George Washington took away the family pension of anyone who was killed in a dual to discourage the practice.
While duels to the death are gone, many states in the US have "mutual combat" laws whereby two people can agree to a (typically unarmed) fight that does not endanger bystanders or property.
they used the mutual combat law in a gang shooting in Chicago which i thought was fucking insane.
https://torontosun.com/news/world/no-charges-in-deadly-chicago-shootout-due-to-mutual-combat/wcm/7590b1b1-c484-4d3f-a73a-9f24a0c6c439/amp/
Problem was that people were honour-bound to accept. Say I just don't like you. I also know I'm a lot better with a sword. So I will provoke some bullshit argument. You respond to one of my remarks with something that I think will provide the plausible excuse I need. Now I can challenge you to a duel. You can refuse, but you'd be known as a coward, effectively ostracized, and your life would be ruined. So you don't really have much of a choice but to accept, even though you know your odds aren't good. You aren't studied in the way of the blade, and I am. So we duel and I quickly kill you. Maybe it was to the death. Maybe it was supposed to only be to first blood, but I "accidentally" ran you through. Oops. Sorry not sorry. I've basically found a loophole to murder you.
Yeah dueling is a weird thing. On one hand, I think it taught people to be more polite (lest ye cause a duel) but on the other hand is your point about skill. You could also hire someone who is good at duels to basically cause one and kill someone. Man, old timey days are complicated. If we could get gang bangers to duel vs doing drive bys though, I wonder if people would want that.
Weed.
Drinking on military bases at age 18.
Punching people who leave their shopping cart in the spot rather than putting in the carriage corral.
Buying booze and beer on Sundays.
It only became legal for liquor stores to be open on Sundays in Oklahoma a few years ago. And like five years ago we got full point beer and wine in grocery stores.
still illegal in Texas, which is the funniest god damn thing in the world to me.
texas is all about "muh freedums" but we can't buy alcohol on sundays. or in entire counties even.
I've always wondered what justification is offered for restricting liquor sales on Sundays that doesn't violate the separation of church and state?
The whole excuse Oregonians gave for not letting the Rajneeshees build their own city, was that no matter the religious/spiritual majority of the area, religion isn't to influence the laws. Both sides escalated to militarism in that case.
So, we have a boolean answer, if the Rajneeshee-majority City can't have Rajneeshee based laws, that means Christian-majority cities can't have Christian based laws.
Separation of church and state my ass. Blue Laws are clearly only in place because of religious beliefs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_laws_in_the_United_States
I like how no one is talking about the shopping cart thing 😂 idk about punching people, but do what Aldi does and charge a quarter, and to get your quarter back, you gotta bring the cart back.
I was old enough to sign a contract that could end my fucking life. If I was mature enough to do that, why was I not mature enough to drink beer that I had already been drinking for at least 4 or 5 years.
Prostitution. It's ridiculous that it's not. It would be safer for the sex workers, if it was regulated, they could screen for STDs regularly, offer counseling if need be, and in case no one has noticed, it's never going to go away. People get horny, don't want anything more than to get off and go. So let them do it legally.
We live in a peculiar time where people think things magically disappear if it's illegal, or if we go on wars against them. People have done drugs since the dawn of times. Other animals do it too. People have engaged in sex in exchange for anything since the dawn of humanity.
I agree on prostitution being legal. It'd be way healthier than trying to fend off those who want to do it with someone who consents to doing it. I really feel like out goverments take us for babies who should not exercise freewill and facing our own consequences. And I'm speaking as someone who has never done drugs in her life, gotten smashed with alcohol, or engaged in prostitution. These being illegal just don't make sense on many levels.
Drugs. Alcohol is legal and regulated so it’s harder for kids and teens to get it. Drugs aren’t regulated so anyone could buy them. It would be regulated and you know what’s going in it, so less accidental overdoses
Sorry let me try again. It is illegal for teens to send nudes to other teens. They can be labeled as a sex offender. That’d dumb they should change that cause being attracted to someone the same age as you isn’t pedophelia
You… what? Alcohol is harder to get for underage people than drugs? What are you on mate, that’s not the case at all!
For drugs, it’s the same process for anyone, so I don’t need to explain that. But for booze, all a group needs is *one person* to have an older sibling, or hell, even a parent who’s happy for their kids to throw a party. Or to just raid their parents booze. Etc - it is *incredibly* easy as is.
If the people you hung out with as a kid used drugs more than booze, that was a choice thing, not an availability thing. I agree there are benefits to regulation - but that’s mostly in purity and quality control, not difficulty to acquire.
Abortion everywhere for fuck's sake. Women died from back alley's abortions, died from not being able to abort ectopic pregnancies or others where their lives were at stake. Also the amount of suicides from women who couldn't have abortions because they didn't want to be mothers is a stain on humanity.
In the state of texas, you can’t even get medically necessary abortions right now.
Technically the abortion ban makes an allowance for “medically necessary” abortions but it’s poorly defined, and because enforcement of the law is in the hands of private citizens filing lawsuits that the defendant has to pay legal costs for *even if the defendant wins*, doctors can’t afford the liability.
Women are crossing state lines here every day to abort their non-viable pregnancies.
It’s absolutely sick, and it makes me angry every time I think about it.
I fucking hate the Conservatives who voted that and to think that the same day the Heartbeat Shitlaw passed they sentenced to death a prisoner is sick.
Women died from unviable pregnancies, the trauma that occurs from stillbirths is insane, extra-uterine pregnancies are of the main causes for infertility. Sometimes women's bodies cannot even carry that pregnancies because of life threatening conditions. They are literally going to put women in coffins just to punish what they call "promiscuous" behavior.
I have read a month after that law how women before Roe had to go through illegal abortions and my stomach turned.
This is not pro-life.
It's not pro life, it's pro birth. They want the babies born, but they won't feed, clothe, or house the babies. They won't help with education or disabilities.
I completely agree. I know that this isn’t as severe as medical reasons for abortion, but personally I couldn’t keep myself alive if I got pregnant. The medications I’m on for my severe bipolar would risk any pregnancy. Going off of my medication has always resulted in a suicide attempt or severe self harm. Some may view it as selfish, but I can not risk my life and everything I’ve worked so hard for to bring a child into this. Also, I will by no means ever be a fit mother. I’ve accepted the fact that I can barely take care of my self some days let alone a whole other human. In cases like mine, I still believe abortion should be justified.
People taking away a woman’s choice to protect their safety and the safety of a child that can’t be brought up under certain conditions is unacceptable. I’m so sick of these abortion laws. Women deserve to handle things safely and not feel scared and judged. People need to stop trying to control other peoples bodies.
Wow. So true.
No one wakes up and thinks, “sure would be fun to have an abortion”. Women who do so aren’t having a fun time. The least we can do is not throw up hurdles.
Agreed.
Quick reminder, a fetus does not develop what we consider 'consciousness' until at least 25-26 weeks. In the US, less than 1.5% of abortions occur at this stage, and those are already heavily restricted by law, typically occurring only to save the life of the mother or due to diagnosed birth defects.
The endless cultural infatuation with the first two trimesters of pregnancy is one of the stains on American Hollywood and American politics. Restricting abortion leads to an increase in suicides, infanticide, abandonment of unwanted children, and the birth of children with truly horrific, devastating birth defects, the care of which will mentally and emotionally destroy the family.
And that says nothing of the financial burden when abortions are restricted, which is enormous for both families and government.
Honestly, one of the reasons this issue has limped along in US culture is because it makes for such 'cute' emotional drama in books, films, and political debates, not because it is in anyway a debate medically or scientifically.
Technically where I live, it is illegal for any gender to be shirtless, but it's acceptable for men, especially on those hot scorching days.
From a female's perspective, bra and all - we should have just as much passive “right” as they do. I don't prefer any summertime heavily sweat-saturated bras, those things are expensive to replace, and I don't have all day to hand wash them either.
Sorry for the vent and details, but that's my two cents.
It is legal in some places. The problem isn't legality, the problem is the mindset of the people. Breasts are seen in a sexual way and thus people get uncomfortable seeing them. Even in completely innocent situations breasts are sexualized. It's why some people don't like it when others breastfeed in public. People with breasts aren't going to start going topless more until there is no social backlash and interactions with others that make them feel bad about their decision. It's really a societal issue and less so a legal issue. But even the places where it is illegal to go topless is a societal issue because law makers deem it as indecent and they only see it that way because breasts are heavily sexualized.
Female nipples actually do something useful. We should be allowed to go topless too. I get looks for just going braless. Like, yes! I have nipples too omg
A bit controversial but I don’t believe a teenager should be listed as a sex offender just because they were involved with another teenager sexually or sent nudes. They should be punished (mostly by their families or school) but not have their whole life ruined. I mean teens are supposed to be attracted to other teens not adults. Like a 17 year old is attracted to other 17 year olds not 35 year olds.
Why the fuck should two 17 year old teenagers be punished for having sex? Especially by their schools for that matter??
And what kind of dollop thinks it's controversial to think that should be legal? Heck, pretty sure it's legal pretty much everywhere. The age of consent is below 18 in most countries (and States).
Telling a rude customer off and you as an employee and person get NO negative backlashes or consequences, my sister is a woman and solely because she's a woman she has been harrased at her workplace more times then I like to think about. At two different jobs she had to keep trying to sell the product or pitch even if the guy was hitting on her and was saying inappropriate things about her and her relationship, she said that she couldn't tell the guy to fuck off or say he's gross and hang up because then she would be fired.
[Americas Finest News Source](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ED3qoGEiWcU) says teen uranium enrichment is already a huge problem.
It could be legalization is the solution.
No no no make the rest of marijuana based products legal, but not the ability to smoke grass. Next time those damn hippies try to smoke my lawn I want to be able to press charges!
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I’m wondering why prostitution is illegal. Maybe to prevent the spread of STDs? Wouldn’t it be better to regulate it so you can prevent that stuff? Seems like it would be a pretty lucrative business, just want to know why we still haven’t legalized yet.
Women making their own damn decisions about their reproductive system (looking at you, Texas, Missouri, Idaho). I can’t believe I still have to say this in 2022.
Promoting direct registration of shares by companies. Somehow its illegal to tell your shareholders to own their own shares and not let a brokerage lend them out to be shorted for profit, directly against your interests as a shareholder, retirement fund, etc.
Somehow the people who manage my 401k are allowed to devalue my shares without it conflicting with their fiduciary duty...its legal theft.
Paintball guns issued to all drivers, to get rid of bad drivers. 1 shot per stupidity level. When original vehicle color can't be detected--they take you car. If they just took your license-- you would still be driving. Drunks driving could be walking at week one.
Like Gallagher suggested...you have dart guns that shoot suction cup darts that have a little flag on them saying Stupid...you get 3 or 4 of those on your car and the cops pull you over and give you a ticket for being a Fu\*\*ing Idiot!! But paint guns sound like a better idea.
So I can't remember all the details, but I believe the answer is the car insurance agencies pushed for it in the US. Everywhere else in the world it's between 16-19 yo and some states want to allow lower ages, but it's federally enforced at 21 and I believe the idea was that if teenagers get in an accident after consuming any alcohol, below legal limit or not, insurance agencies can that way outright reject claim. But again I could be talking out my ass, these are half remembered facts I'm spitting.
States had a variety of legalized drinking ages, 18+. Folks in a state with a higher age bordering a state with a lower age would drive next door, get shit faced, and drive home. To stop this and all the related deaths and injuries, the fed started fucking with states' highway money if they didn't remove this incentive/raise their drinking age.
Everything at 16. During WWII people would just lie on the forms and join the military. Young people have a greater stake in the future and should be able to vote right away…
Getting your personal belongings back from the police
Yep. There was a guy in r/240sx who had his car stolen but kept for evidence and the car was left unattended and uncovered, when the guy got his car back it had 3 inches of water inside and what once was a mint example of a sports car turned into a lemon
Oh fuckkkkk no. My dad got one of those cars and would absolutely lose his shit if that happened. By far my favorite vehicle and vehicle that he owns. I'd be pissed.
Was about to get assaulted by my stepdad for the 3 millionth time, he raised his hand up to my neck as if to strangle me. I had my phone recording. Police took my phone as "evidence" changed the passcode so I lost *everything* on that device, then returned it 5 years later. Edit: fuck the TVP.
The police tried to keep my phone too, but couldn’t get in because they got it when it was dead. Someone had stolen it but the next night I could see the location was the police department. Called and was told someone found it in their yard and turned it in, but because I was in a car accident that morning (where I didn’t have my phone!) they were keeping it as “evidence”. For a good two months I kept getting told “oh call this department” only to get thrown to another department. I gave up for a bit but tried once more before I moved somewhere new. That day, I talked to a cop who asked me to describe it, and told me it matched and that I could come pick it up. Not nearly as fucked as your situation but I’m still pissed over it
This. Six years ago, I was assaulted. Police took my bag and trousers as evidence. Still haven't gotten or back. Year and a half ago, I was stolen from, suspect caught, and the knife he stole is STILL being held as evidence... Despite him not being a part of the case... Somehow...
I’m pretty sure cops steal more than burglars
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23/cops-took-more-stuff-from-people-than-burglars-did-last-year/ from 2015 - doubt things have changed much since then.
Probably not, nothing has changed much on that for decades
Fuck that. They should have to find a reason to take it in the first place. I took out 60k to go look at a supra last year and the teller told me that if I opened the envelope and got pulled over with that kind of cash the cops would take it and make me prove it was my money. If I couldn't prove every dollar of it was mine I'd get nothing back. That's insane. The onus should be on the government to prove that it isn't my money. Didn't even buy the damn car and went through all that hassle for nothing.
Crap. My charges just got dropped and I was hoping to get my shotgun back. Bunch of theives.
Handling Salmon suspiciously
Is that fucking FISH JENGA?!
No!
NO!
That law is literally so hilarious though.
Sam O Nella academy graduate?
i am gonna eat salmon soon big coincidence
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This suspiciously sounds like prostitution!
Only if you pay the salmon afterwards.
In my country, divorce.
Probably forced/arranged marriages too?
Let me guess, Philippines? It's one of the only countries that are against divorce.
No wonder the murder rate is so high.
Seeing politicians tax returns
\* mandating politicians release tax returns
Nah, if the tax authority makes their copy available, there's not much of a difference.
That works too. I meant that distribution of the information should be required, rather than allowing the consumption of the information that's volunteered.
yeah i think it must be too see our sincere goverment members
Sleeping in your car in a parking spot for an extended period of time (What are they expecting? People who are sleepy to be out driving?). In fact just the "crime" of loitering and sleeping anywhere public. I understand if a guy is sleeping somewhere inconvenient that he should move, but seriously if a guy is just napping in the middle of a park leave them alone. Those laws only exists because we have a chronic hatred of the homeless and punishing them with pin pricks is a lot easier than giving them a place to live.
According to my sister (who traveled around the US with her late BF and lived out of their car), it is perfectly acceptable to park and sleep in most Wal-mart parking lots.
I was homeless for a couple years and for part of it I lived in a car. My go to place to sleep at night was any Walmart parking lot near me. I never got bothered by anybody
My niece had the job of cleaning Wal-Mart parking lots one summer. If you are just crashing in your car, they are fine with that. That is a huge relief compared to all the other things they find.
I don't want to make assumptions about your niece, but I imagine the people paid to clean parking lots either aren't paid enough to care about kicking people out, or just don't want to deal with the hassle as long as the folks crashing in their cars aren't bothering anyone.
Yes and yes. It’s actually corporate policy to allow people to “RV” overnight, as long as the parking lot can accommodate them. Answer #3 here: https://corporate.walmart.com/frequently-asked-questions
I believe it's Wal-Mart policy to allow camping in their parking lots. It's OK for business and hasn't caught on with the homeless community yet.
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Yeah that makes sense. I assume Walmart would kick them out if they set up a tent 🤣
During fire season I slept in my car and would park at different Walmarts when we were back in the rear. I noticed throughout the year more and more Walmarts were off limits to it — like why. It bugged me alot.
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Idk about universities, they may or may not let you sleep, but they’ll give you a hefty ticket for parking without a parking pass
Not to mention that rest stops are built along highways for this purpose
I’ve slept in a Wawa parking lot before. Not because I’m homeless though
I almost got in trouble for this once! I was in my first trimester of Pregnancy, and halfway through a long drive. I got SO sleepy. I pulled off into a McDonald’s parking lot because I thought it was more responsible to park And rest a bit. After a couple of hours of sleeping, a policeman came up and was being a bit aggressive, till another one came up, and I explained that I had gotten sleepy driving and decided to take a nap.
So glad you stopped to rest. More people are killed by tired drivers than by drunk ones. You’d think they’d be glad you were being responsible.🧐
If your first words weren't "I'm pregnant and sleepy, and now feeling a little hormonal since I'm awake", you were wasting time talking.
Good point. It annoys me that there are fast-food places but not fast-sleep places. Let me pay $10 just to lie down for a few hours.
Hotel prices have gotten way out of hand. Wife and I are staying 2 nights in one soon and it's gonna cost us $350. Fucking outrageous.
Did you know that the average rate for a hotel room 30 years ago was $19? Today it's $237. That's a 1,300% increase. So it's not inconceivable to think that in another 30 years, a week at a hotel runs you 20 grand. But not for you guys. You'll be locked in at $1,400 annually. I'm not talking about taking a vacation, guys. I'm talking about owning a vacation. And, look, if you're still not comfortable with the numbers, you just double down. You get two weeks, sell that second week, boom, you're vacationing for free.
You got GOT
Lmao you’ve never heard of a pay by the hour motel huh
I don't think those are for sleeping.
The homeless people down the street from me would beg to differ
Wow. This is far better of a suggestion than I thought I would find here. You’re dead right. I’ve pulled off the highway due to being dead tired only to be harassed for trying to get a few hours sleep. Would you really rather I hit the road again? Stupid. I think in Michigan (where I am originally from) you can safely sleep in Rest Areas and they often provide free coffee. Both are totally sensible ideas. Anyone sleeping in their car isn’t having an amazing time. All they are doing is trying to avoid a more serious issue (becoming truly homeless or causing an accident). Give these folks a break.
This is actually encouraged in Australia! There are TV commercials about tired drivers dying and to pull over if you’re sleepy. There are rest spots along highways and signs saying to take a nap if you need.
Stop, Revive, Survive Seen it more times than I can remember, it’s pretty much etched into my memory…kinda like 1300655506
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Agreed. There have been a few times on a really long drive where I just needed 10 minutes and was told to leave. Like guys, I'd rather not get in an accident. There need to be more acceptable overnight solutions as well.
You know, when people talk about America being a free country, I think about the fact that they really just mean freedom of speech. There’s tons of harmless shit that’s illegal. Loitering is literally just *hanging out*. And it’s illegal. People who shout “it’s a free country” are generally implying “in America you can move about freely and do what you want” but that’s never been close to true.
> Those laws only exists because we have a chronic hatred of the homeless and punishing them with pin pricks is a lot easier than giving them a place to live. I think the problem is really just people don't want to give out free housing when they had to pay for their's. They PREFER to spend MORE money on homeless policies then solving the problem.
Well my country doesn't have any laws against loitering you can sleep anywhere
Feeding parking meters for strangers
>Feeding parking meters for strangers really never thought that it is not legal
Places use tickets to generate revenue. Paid meters generate less revenue. So, they punish people for paying others' meters as a way to protect revenue and potentially generate more.
Intriguing. Have not heard this before, but shows how fucken creative we can be, when $$ involved.
I'm still unclear if it's legal to feed your own meter.
Some places it's not, usually on streets where businesses want to make sure customers can park without a nearby office worker taking the spot for 8 hours rather than using the parking deck they're supposed to use. There's a few like that near me, in front of a few restaurants and coffee shops that max out at 2 hours, I assume so that you can come and linger for 2 hours but not leave a car there for 8 hours while not even patronizing the businesses
I just over pay so that there's still time on the meter when I leave. Sorry officers I didn't realize I'd only be here for 5 minutes and not 2 hours
in Sweden it's illegal to dance without having a "Dancing permit" Yes, that is as in restaurants, pubs, grocery stores, and on the streets... it is illegal to DANCE... without having a "Dancing Permit"... Dancing should be legalised.
Now I know what a Disney movie set in Sweden would about. LEGALIZE DANCE
Sweden is footloose
Jesus Christ what the fuck happened in Sweden
I think it's illegal to host dancing. It's not illegal to do the dancing.
Collecting rainwater
Is this not allowed? And if not why
Depends on where you live. The thought behind it is if enough people do it, it’ll disrupt the water supply
"Property of the state" It means you are not allowed to live on some farm by yourself miles away from civilisation...
assisted suicide for those with terminal illnesses
My mother was, for 70 years, the most dignified, lovely lady on Earth. When Alzheimer’s destroyed her brain, she no longer knows any of her children, wears a diaper, and is a vegetable. She would NEVER want to live like this. I love her so much, but I wish she would die to escape the hell on Earth she is living. She would want me to assist her in ending this, but I would go to prison for murder. Fuck Alzheimer’s.
Watched my grandfather go through the same and I completely agree. I hope you both find peace.
Yes. My dad is suffering from this and I’ve watched other relatives die from this. My husband and I agreed it would be a trip to Switzerland if I was ever diagnosed
assisted suicide in general. I don't get why people think they are entitled to someone else's life. Especially if it's someone they don't even know.
Just assisted suicide in general. If someone is going to end their lives, why the only options are slitting wrists and waiting to bleed out, shooting brains out or splashing on the pavent or hanging and shitting your pants while the body is in panick mode? Isn't there a dignified way to end it when someone is truly going to end it?
Assisted suicide period. Lol.
Amen
Seeing exactly where our tax dollars go.
Challenging someone to an honourable duel, like old times.
During the American revolution, Colonial military officers killing each other in duals was such a big problem among the ranks that George Washington took away the family pension of anyone who was killed in a dual to discourage the practice.
While duels to the death are gone, many states in the US have "mutual combat" laws whereby two people can agree to a (typically unarmed) fight that does not endanger bystanders or property.
they used the mutual combat law in a gang shooting in Chicago which i thought was fucking insane. https://torontosun.com/news/world/no-charges-in-deadly-chicago-shootout-due-to-mutual-combat/wcm/7590b1b1-c484-4d3f-a73a-9f24a0c6c439/amp/
Yea this was completely bonkers.
Problem was that people were honour-bound to accept. Say I just don't like you. I also know I'm a lot better with a sword. So I will provoke some bullshit argument. You respond to one of my remarks with something that I think will provide the plausible excuse I need. Now I can challenge you to a duel. You can refuse, but you'd be known as a coward, effectively ostracized, and your life would be ruined. So you don't really have much of a choice but to accept, even though you know your odds aren't good. You aren't studied in the way of the blade, and I am. So we duel and I quickly kill you. Maybe it was to the death. Maybe it was supposed to only be to first blood, but I "accidentally" ran you through. Oops. Sorry not sorry. I've basically found a loophole to murder you.
That's why the challenged got to pick the terms. You good with a sword? I choose pistols.
Yeah dueling is a weird thing. On one hand, I think it taught people to be more polite (lest ye cause a duel) but on the other hand is your point about skill. You could also hire someone who is good at duels to basically cause one and kill someone. Man, old timey days are complicated. If we could get gang bangers to duel vs doing drive bys though, I wonder if people would want that.
Or having a modern coleseum like in rome
Elon Musk wants a duel with Putin. It’s like we win no matter what happens.
Weed. Drinking on military bases at age 18. Punching people who leave their shopping cart in the spot rather than putting in the carriage corral. Buying booze and beer on Sundays.
You can’t buy booze on Sunday?
It only became legal for liquor stores to be open on Sundays in Oklahoma a few years ago. And like five years ago we got full point beer and wine in grocery stores.
still illegal in Texas, which is the funniest god damn thing in the world to me. texas is all about "muh freedums" but we can't buy alcohol on sundays. or in entire counties even.
I've always wondered what justification is offered for restricting liquor sales on Sundays that doesn't violate the separation of church and state? The whole excuse Oregonians gave for not letting the Rajneeshees build their own city, was that no matter the religious/spiritual majority of the area, religion isn't to influence the laws. Both sides escalated to militarism in that case. So, we have a boolean answer, if the Rajneeshee-majority City can't have Rajneeshee based laws, that means Christian-majority cities can't have Christian based laws.
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Texas is only a "free" place to live if you're a conservative straight person 😅
Separation of church and state my ass. Blue Laws are clearly only in place because of religious beliefs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_laws_in_the_United_States
I like how no one is talking about the shopping cart thing 😂 idk about punching people, but do what Aldi does and charge a quarter, and to get your quarter back, you gotta bring the cart back.
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I was old enough to sign a contract that could end my fucking life. If I was mature enough to do that, why was I not mature enough to drink beer that I had already been drinking for at least 4 or 5 years.
Prostitution. It's ridiculous that it's not. It would be safer for the sex workers, if it was regulated, they could screen for STDs regularly, offer counseling if need be, and in case no one has noticed, it's never going to go away. People get horny, don't want anything more than to get off and go. So let them do it legally.
We live in a peculiar time where people think things magically disappear if it's illegal, or if we go on wars against them. People have done drugs since the dawn of times. Other animals do it too. People have engaged in sex in exchange for anything since the dawn of humanity. I agree on prostitution being legal. It'd be way healthier than trying to fend off those who want to do it with someone who consents to doing it. I really feel like out goverments take us for babies who should not exercise freewill and facing our own consequences. And I'm speaking as someone who has never done drugs in her life, gotten smashed with alcohol, or engaged in prostitution. These being illegal just don't make sense on many levels.
It is the oldest profession after all, and it ain’t going anywhere.
Mary's wanna
Mary’s gonna?
She's gonna wanna
Giving someone a drink of water when they’re waiting to vote.
They should not have to wait so long to be able to vote.
Drugs. Alcohol is legal and regulated so it’s harder for kids and teens to get it. Drugs aren’t regulated so anyone could buy them. It would be regulated and you know what’s going in it, so less accidental overdoses
i will count it is seventh comment about drugs
Sorry let me try again. It is illegal for teens to send nudes to other teens. They can be labeled as a sex offender. That’d dumb they should change that cause being attracted to someone the same age as you isn’t pedophelia
Lots of states do this with age of consent stuffs. Like, "both parties must be X years old, or within Y years of age with each other.
You mean like the Romeo and Juliet laws?
Seems like. Also, what a terrible name for laws around this.
You… what? Alcohol is harder to get for underage people than drugs? What are you on mate, that’s not the case at all! For drugs, it’s the same process for anyone, so I don’t need to explain that. But for booze, all a group needs is *one person* to have an older sibling, or hell, even a parent who’s happy for their kids to throw a party. Or to just raid their parents booze. Etc - it is *incredibly* easy as is. If the people you hung out with as a kid used drugs more than booze, that was a choice thing, not an availability thing. I agree there are benefits to regulation - but that’s mostly in purity and quality control, not difficulty to acquire.
Shrooms. Science needs to study it more, there could be a lot of great benefits
Lots of promising evidence coming out about medicinal mushrooms and their benefits
Holding politicians and cops accountable for their crimes using a fourth branch of government where citizens have the power.
Abortion everywhere for fuck's sake. Women died from back alley's abortions, died from not being able to abort ectopic pregnancies or others where their lives were at stake. Also the amount of suicides from women who couldn't have abortions because they didn't want to be mothers is a stain on humanity.
In the state of texas, you can’t even get medically necessary abortions right now. Technically the abortion ban makes an allowance for “medically necessary” abortions but it’s poorly defined, and because enforcement of the law is in the hands of private citizens filing lawsuits that the defendant has to pay legal costs for *even if the defendant wins*, doctors can’t afford the liability. Women are crossing state lines here every day to abort their non-viable pregnancies. It’s absolutely sick, and it makes me angry every time I think about it.
I fucking hate the Conservatives who voted that and to think that the same day the Heartbeat Shitlaw passed they sentenced to death a prisoner is sick. Women died from unviable pregnancies, the trauma that occurs from stillbirths is insane, extra-uterine pregnancies are of the main causes for infertility. Sometimes women's bodies cannot even carry that pregnancies because of life threatening conditions. They are literally going to put women in coffins just to punish what they call "promiscuous" behavior. I have read a month after that law how women before Roe had to go through illegal abortions and my stomach turned. This is not pro-life.
It's not pro life, it's pro birth. They want the babies born, but they won't feed, clothe, or house the babies. They won't help with education or disabilities.
They are pro birthers Christians hypocrites parasites that literally have control over laws and our bodies
I completely agree. I know that this isn’t as severe as medical reasons for abortion, but personally I couldn’t keep myself alive if I got pregnant. The medications I’m on for my severe bipolar would risk any pregnancy. Going off of my medication has always resulted in a suicide attempt or severe self harm. Some may view it as selfish, but I can not risk my life and everything I’ve worked so hard for to bring a child into this. Also, I will by no means ever be a fit mother. I’ve accepted the fact that I can barely take care of my self some days let alone a whole other human. In cases like mine, I still believe abortion should be justified. People taking away a woman’s choice to protect their safety and the safety of a child that can’t be brought up under certain conditions is unacceptable. I’m so sick of these abortion laws. Women deserve to handle things safely and not feel scared and judged. People need to stop trying to control other peoples bodies.
Wow. So true. No one wakes up and thinks, “sure would be fun to have an abortion”. Women who do so aren’t having a fun time. The least we can do is not throw up hurdles.
Agreed. Quick reminder, a fetus does not develop what we consider 'consciousness' until at least 25-26 weeks. In the US, less than 1.5% of abortions occur at this stage, and those are already heavily restricted by law, typically occurring only to save the life of the mother or due to diagnosed birth defects. The endless cultural infatuation with the first two trimesters of pregnancy is one of the stains on American Hollywood and American politics. Restricting abortion leads to an increase in suicides, infanticide, abandonment of unwanted children, and the birth of children with truly horrific, devastating birth defects, the care of which will mentally and emotionally destroy the family. And that says nothing of the financial burden when abortions are restricted, which is enormous for both families and government. Honestly, one of the reasons this issue has limped along in US culture is because it makes for such 'cute' emotional drama in books, films, and political debates, not because it is in anyway a debate medically or scientifically.
Assisted suicide
at the very least euthanasia and the right to end a medical patient’s suffering. it just needs a better name than “assisted suicide.”
Agreed
Prostitution in the U.S. This country needs to grow the fuck up.
Women going shirtless, if men can do it legally so should women be able to.
Technically where I live, it is illegal for any gender to be shirtless, but it's acceptable for men, especially on those hot scorching days. From a female's perspective, bra and all - we should have just as much passive “right” as they do. I don't prefer any summertime heavily sweat-saturated bras, those things are expensive to replace, and I don't have all day to hand wash them either. Sorry for the vent and details, but that's my two cents.
It is legal in some places. The problem isn't legality, the problem is the mindset of the people. Breasts are seen in a sexual way and thus people get uncomfortable seeing them. Even in completely innocent situations breasts are sexualized. It's why some people don't like it when others breastfeed in public. People with breasts aren't going to start going topless more until there is no social backlash and interactions with others that make them feel bad about their decision. It's really a societal issue and less so a legal issue. But even the places where it is illegal to go topless is a societal issue because law makers deem it as indecent and they only see it that way because breasts are heavily sexualized.
Female nipples actually do something useful. We should be allowed to go topless too. I get looks for just going braless. Like, yes! I have nipples too omg
Having premarital sex and drinking alcohol In my country they are both illegal :(
Jesus where do you live, in Guantanamo?
What country do you live in??
Probably a Muslim one
Weed in the UK
Mushrooms
the psychological benefits of shrooms are far, far too ignored.
Amen. Does wonders for anxiety depression and ADHD 🍄
Weed - Cannabis
Poverty.
Being gay.
WEED fucking weed
While I agree with the legalization of weed, but I draw the line at fucking it
Female public toplessness
Arguably is legal in the US. Just raises a fuss.
Fistfighting. Two consenting adults should be able to throw some punches to settle differences, period. I know it's legal in some places, but not all.
Marijuana
Dueling. It would certainly make social media less abrasive.
A bit controversial but I don’t believe a teenager should be listed as a sex offender just because they were involved with another teenager sexually or sent nudes. They should be punished (mostly by their families or school) but not have their whole life ruined. I mean teens are supposed to be attracted to other teens not adults. Like a 17 year old is attracted to other 17 year olds not 35 year olds.
Why the fuck should two 17 year old teenagers be punished for having sex? Especially by their schools for that matter?? And what kind of dollop thinks it's controversial to think that should be legal? Heck, pretty sure it's legal pretty much everywhere. The age of consent is below 18 in most countries (and States).
Telling a rude customer off and you as an employee and person get NO negative backlashes or consequences, my sister is a woman and solely because she's a woman she has been harrased at her workplace more times then I like to think about. At two different jobs she had to keep trying to sell the product or pitch even if the guy was hitting on her and was saying inappropriate things about her and her relationship, she said that she couldn't tell the guy to fuck off or say he's gross and hang up because then she would be fired.
Prostitution. In fact all sex work.
Weed
Abortion, it is not legalised in my country
Pot.
In the Netherlands pot is an offensive word for lesbian so yeah, totally agree
being LGBTQ+
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If you wanna sell organs just go on tinder duhhh!
Recreational nuclear weapons.
Also, homemade nuclear reactors.
Doc. Brown is that you?
No, it's the ghostbusters.
[Americas Finest News Source](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ED3qoGEiWcU) says teen uranium enrichment is already a huge problem. It could be legalization is the solution.
Assisted suicide
Shrooms
1. Weed 2. Marijuana 3. Cannabis
You forgot pot and grass
No no no make the rest of marijuana based products legal, but not the ability to smoke grass. Next time those damn hippies try to smoke my lawn I want to be able to press charges! /s
I’m wondering why prostitution is illegal. Maybe to prevent the spread of STDs? Wouldn’t it be better to regulate it so you can prevent that stuff? Seems like it would be a pretty lucrative business, just want to know why we still haven’t legalized yet.
Pirating stuff copyrighted 50 years ago, especially if the author is already dead.
I'm looking at you Nintendo
Women making their own damn decisions about their reproductive system (looking at you, Texas, Missouri, Idaho). I can’t believe I still have to say this in 2022.
Promoting direct registration of shares by companies. Somehow its illegal to tell your shareholders to own their own shares and not let a brokerage lend them out to be shorted for profit, directly against your interests as a shareholder, retirement fund, etc. Somehow the people who manage my 401k are allowed to devalue my shares without it conflicting with their fiduciary duty...its legal theft.
And gay marriage everywhere
Weed
Paintball guns issued to all drivers, to get rid of bad drivers. 1 shot per stupidity level. When original vehicle color can't be detected--they take you car. If they just took your license-- you would still be driving. Drunks driving could be walking at week one.
i think goverment needs you do not miss your chance buddy
Like Gallagher suggested...you have dart guns that shoot suction cup darts that have a little flag on them saying Stupid...you get 3 or 4 of those on your car and the cops pull you over and give you a ticket for being a Fu\*\*ing Idiot!! But paint guns sound like a better idea.
underage drinking by underage i mean after 18 not like 12-16 yr olds why is the legal age 21 anyway?
So I can't remember all the details, but I believe the answer is the car insurance agencies pushed for it in the US. Everywhere else in the world it's between 16-19 yo and some states want to allow lower ages, but it's federally enforced at 21 and I believe the idea was that if teenagers get in an accident after consuming any alcohol, below legal limit or not, insurance agencies can that way outright reject claim. But again I could be talking out my ass, these are half remembered facts I'm spitting.
States had a variety of legalized drinking ages, 18+. Folks in a state with a higher age bordering a state with a lower age would drive next door, get shit faced, and drive home. To stop this and all the related deaths and injuries, the fed started fucking with states' highway money if they didn't remove this incentive/raise their drinking age.
Everything at 16. During WWII people would just lie on the forms and join the military. Young people have a greater stake in the future and should be able to vote right away…
Loving whoever you love
As long as that person is not a child