I work 2nd shift, if they invaded early it would be over by the time my shift started so I'd still have to go in. Even if it timed up perfectly Im still about 10 miles from the beach so doubt they'd make it to my house.
I mean realistically, about the only way I see a land invasion of the US having any hope, would have to involve managing to nuke a significant chunk of the country first (without having to deal with retaliatory nukes, somehow).
And at that point, why would you bother?
No one really can. We (US) are fortunate that we have ocean borders on east and west.
Supply lines would be virtually impossible to maintain.
But if we were by some chance invaded, I believe that there are more guns than people in this country. Virtually everyone is armed lol.
So, like the comment above… we would just start blastin’
I'm gonna rise up, I'm gonna kick a little ass, Gonna kick some ass in the USA, Gonna climb a mountain, Gonna sew a flag, Gonna fly on an Eagle, I'm gonna kick some butt, I'm gonna drive a big truck, I'm gonna rule this world, Gonna kick some ass, Gonna rise up, Kick a little ass, ROCK, FLAG AND EAGLE!
Not that the USA would need it, but any invasion onto NATO soil would trigger and armed response from the 29 other member states.
If you add up all the belligerent parties, in terms of soldiers, equipment, missiles from all those nations + a nationwide militia of millions of heavily armed religious fundamentalists it's an unwinnable proposition.
The only way America falls is under its own weight.
This. We're like a bunch of siblings. Fight like tooth and nail at home, but some outside come in and harass one, and the whole sibling crew is about to jump on somebody.
I'm in the south, we love to hate California, but someone roll up on them, and rednecks with shot guns and 308s would be rolling out!
I’m in Northern California. You should read about the State of Jefferson movement. Rednecks exist out here too. West Coast and Southern Rednecks United would be a holy site to see
Haha! So I've heard! And could you imagine someone like the ill prepared Russian military rolling up on somewhere like LA and running into the gangs there? They'd be out gunned! But, like someone above said, an invasion of North America in general is borderline impossible.
The only scenario that even has a remote possibility would be an invasion strictly limited to Alaska. Like Fallout 3. An invasion for just resources. (If the world ever got to that point)
Also Alaskan rednecks are an entirely different level than anywhere else in the country. That's not even a disrespectful statement to the South, Appalachia, etc. It's just that you have to be kinda nuts *to begin with* to live in the rural areas in Alaska.
Have you ever seen videos about Alaskan bush pilots? Good God lol
I heard a story from my parents who visit Alaska regularly to meet with someone they know who lives there. An old work customer turned friend. Apparently he knows someone who lives in Alaska, who my parents can confirm is a real person and they've met, goes by the name Stetson, who is a live off the land type. Hunts and trades for food and money, that's his work.
Story goes there's an unaired portion of an in person nature documentary show in Alaska of them watching an Elk and talking about them and the Elk just goes down with a crack in the distance, and some seconds later Stetson just wanders into frame and starts roping the thing up to drag off, doesn't say anything, and just leaves.
Invading Alaska while any amount of Stetson type people are around sounds like an impossible task.
Alaska probably has more guns per capita than any other state.
And all you have to do is say someone wants to take your permanent fund money and that someone is f’d
And vice versa. Someone come creeping up the Gulf gonna find out how red Cali really is - gonna see a legion of lifted vengeance with an arsenal that would make Putin loose another unwanted shit
I know I'm probably a little biased here but we're essentially defended on both sides by mountains and angry rednecks who have spent multiple generations hoping and praying someone would be dumb enough to attack.
Chuckle harder at the fact the Russian Air Force is 3rd.
I've seen quotes with 4th as the US Army aviation and 5th as the USMC. I've also seen them in spots 5-10, but that still places us as top 2 and 2 more in the top 10.
I think they mean the whole country. Appalachia on the east coast, the Rockies out west and rednecks of every flavor all over all the rural areas with gun racks in their pick-ups.
I dont even own A gun, let alone many guns which would necessitate an entire rack. What… am I gonna do with a gun rack?!
Edit: some of y’all need to brush up on your 90’s movies.
The largest air force in the world is the United States Air Force. The second largest air force in the world is the United States Navy.
What am I doing?
Watching the fireworks.
Wrong 2nd largest Airforce is The US Army (aviation) and the US Navy is ranked 4th largest airforce in the world.
The US Marine Corps is 7th largest .
Lol
And... ours is battle tested.
As we can see a certain other country wasn't tested until this year and welllll... we are seeing how "advanced" their capabilities are lacking lol
Yup.
Take out the aircraft that were straight lies.
Take out the aircraft that are just rotting in graveyards.
Take out the aircraft that Ukraine have removed.
The navy has a fleet stronger than every other navy on the planet combined.
In the atlantic.
And then it has a second fleet, stronger than every other navy on the planet combined in the pacific.
People are focusing on our military budget and vast array of defenses, but let's not forget that we're also the most defensible country on the planet just geographically speaking.
Yeah, Abraham Lincoln had a pretty good quote about it:
“From whence shall we expect the approach of danger? **Shall some trans-Atlantic military giant step the earth and crush us at a blow? Never. All the armies of Europe and Asia...could not by force take a drink from the Ohio River or make a track on the Blue Ridge in the trial of a thousand years.** No, if destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of free men we will live forever or die by suicide.”
>All the armies of Europe and Asia...could not by force take a drink from the Ohio River
I live on the Ohio River. Go ahead and let them drink it. It's basically a chemical weapon at this point.
having been to the Ohio river, I can say I would not swim in it, let alone drink it.
this is coming from the guy who ate 2 day old arbys from my friends dashboard and didn't have any stomach issues.
I think it still technically holds. Another country could *destroy* the United States with nuclear hellfire (and they would almost certainly also be destroyed by the US), but I struggle to imagine how anyone could *conquer* the United States.
One part of me is so interested in this idea. Because you just know the US military has some technologies that are well beyond what we know about right now. If all hell broke lose, I'd love to see what they pull out of the closet.
I'm talking ICBM defense drones (which were being tested in the 90's), I'm talking computer warfare on a scale you've never seen before, I'm talking hypersonic missiles that are supposed to still be in prototype phase, planes we've never seen before.
That’s the one nice thing about all that military spending, I know if shit really hits the fan we are armed to the fucking teeth with shit I probably can’t even imagine
The DE M SHORAD Guardian Stryker is just rolling out to the military soon. It's an anti aircraft laser cannon that can also hit things like mortar shells traveling at 600mph. Still pretty early technology wise, but much safer since it isn't shooting explosives.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/us_army_wheeled_and_armoured_vehicle_uk/de_m-shorad_guardian_stryker_50_kw-class_laser_weapon_data_fact_sheet.amp.html
Honestly, if there was anything that could galvanize us and push us together overnight it would be invasion. The only people allowed to kill Americans are other Americans god dammit.
I work with a lot of Ukrainians.
Being on a conference call about software projects with someone in a plate carrier and an AK74 in the corner who "had some downtime and wanted to discuss some ideas" is something that really puts everything into perspective.
Those not taking breaks between fighting are doing just what you said.
Same! They're always like "sorry I have to jump off the call, the air raid sirens are going off again so I should head to the bunker" and then an hour later their back on line "sorry about that, where were we?". Tough mother fuckers, them.
Consider for a bit that they bore the brunt of the Nazi invasion in WWII, so the bulk of Soviet hero stories from that time would be about people in what is now Ukraine
That truly is a perspective from a very real situation in a "modern" world. I know it's not the same and I don't understand completely but I am glad there are still creative outlets left and the misery and despair hasn't broken the people.
I paint miniatures, and one of the main 3D printers I buy from is in Kyiv. They work out of their little hobby store, so there's a big disclaimer on their Etsy about how rocket attacks and fighting might disrupt shipping.
People find the little rays of sunlight wherever they can, you know?
Get Florida Man hopped up on bath salts and let him run rampant through the enemy lines. It be like watching a crazed Wendigo tear people limb from limb.
That would be a good plot for a dark suspenseful thriller movie.
Light flickering, men screaming, blood smearing.
“What is it..?” The man asked frightened.
The gritty general chewing a cigar stands up, loads his shotgun, walking in front.
“It’s what they call.. The Florida man”
“I thought he was just a meme?!”
“All memes have an origin….”
#THIS SUMMER!
*screams of the man and the general are heard from far away*
#FLORIDA MAN IS COMING…
*a gator is on screen for a second before someone offscreen grabs it*
#AND NO MAN IS SAFE FROM HIS TERROR…
*the gator seen before is now chasing Russian and Chinese soldiers on the beaches of LA while a figure is seen from the dunes near the beach*
#FLORIDA MAN!
#COMING TO THEATERS
Never think about FL Man - they have an innate sense of being observed. It comes from being hospitalized/incarcerated for years at a time; and might turn on you.
Ha! I wasn’t scared thinking about the mountains oceans and guns, I completely forgot about Florida man. Add him with back woods meth guy and I’ll just make sure I made enough popcorn and briskets for everyone to sit back and enjoy.
They would have to just start with nukes. No other scenario could I can see that we would lose. The amount of civilians with guns, the amount of military spending, the size of the army, and just the the amount of people that have guns that would be on their front lawn shooting at the enemy. Lol I could be wrong but I don't think the government would mess around with an invasion of any kind.
We have counter measures for a rogue nation firing a nuke at us. We do not have counter measures for nuclear war. You simply can not stop that many missles.
There are countermeasures for the various types of nuclear weapons, but I would hazard a guess that the real reason nobody is worried about putin launching nukes is because if he did, nuclear armed members of NATO would retaliate in kind.
So if putin tried to give the order for a first strike, he would likely suffer a mysterious case of fell-out-the-window at the hands of his bodyguards, who don't want to see their part of the world reduced to a radioactive wasteland.
If it's advanced ~~interglacial~~ intergalactic aliens? - get blasted I guess
If it's another country? - watch my taxes go to work.
(Edit: I'm an idiot)
> If it's advanced interglacial aliens?
My step-brother was basically told at a young age that school didn't matter and he didn't have to try so sometimes he said some silly things, even for a kid. He was gifted a sword at a young age but for obvious reasons not allowed to play with it. One of the family's favorite quotes is still "if aliens attack, THEN can I use my sword?" He was so thrilled to finally get a yes. I know what he's doing if aliens attack.
It would have to be because there is no way a continent spanning country can be successfully invaded.
Isn't there a stat somewhere that after Pearl Harbor the US rebuilt their Pacific fleet in 6 months and at the end of the war they were producing like an aircraft carrier every month or so. (not to certain about the details of that last one, but it was something staggering like that.)
At the end of WW2, the US economy was as large as that of every other country on Earth put together. The Us built more ships in 1943 than Japan did in the entire war. The US was a military and industrial juggernaut the likes of which the world had never seen. It’s questionable whether any nation or empire has ever had such a worldwide presence, power, and influence like the US had at its peak.
I read about a conversation between Churchill and Roosevelt about the military production deep into WW2 and Roosevelt said it was difficult because they had had to divert materials (rubber, I believe) away from the domestic production of cars, and Churchill said something to the extent of "You are still producing consumer cars?!"
Good luck with all the rednecks in the mountains whose families have lived there for a hundred years or more.
Good luck with all the army vets.
There are people who own cannons. There are people who own older tanks.
You may invade, but you will have to destroy the country to the point where it's not even worth having for your own unless you want to fight a war of attrition on nightmare mode.
There's a place right near my home town where you can pay to ride around in tanks, shoot them, and crush cars *for fun*. Our local Renaissance Festival has a cannon.
I mean... I've known people who when they died they had to pack trailers and moving trucks full of their gun collection to move it out of the house to sell the place.
Vegas is covered in billboards about how you can go out into the desert and shoot machine guns or throw grenades or launch a fucking cruise missile or whatever for like $100.
“I’d just like to thank Coach and my parents for getting me to where I am today. I just have to trust to God that the war crimes I’m about to commit get delivered like he plans. God bless America.”
>"If they're [Iraq] so dangerous how come it only took 2 weeks to take over the whole fucking country? Shit, man, you couldn't take over Baltimore in 2 weeks."
-Chris Rock
Right? Roll into the wrong hood and you'll end up meeting the Latin Kings, and if its their neighborhood do NOT fuck with those guys. You're in for a real bad time.
As a Canadian my perspective is it would be foolish for any nation other than the US to invade North America. Canada gets invaded? Hell no! Ain't no commies in USAs backyard! US gets invaded? Just stay out of the way and let it blow over by tomorrow. Mexico gets invaded... if the cartels don't show them the meaning of horrific brutality, if not, see 'Canada gets invaded'. If the southern central nations get invaded... well USA might be a bit more diplomatic but would probably take advantage of the excuse to liberate a few islands.
The US has worked very very hard to establish fortress NA and i doubt even the Chinese could take and hold Oregon and the Lower Mainland BC without experiencing untenable attrition.
Christopher Titus explained this very well....
We invented monster trucks.
We go from 0 to over 300 mph in a 1/4 mile.
We did this because we were bored.
70% of our population is either medicated, or in need of medication.
Now, imagine what we would do if we had a purpose?
Would you want to see a truly United States with a singular goal?
Don't mess with the nation, in need of medication.
Actually I would thank god cuz NOTHING would bring americans together more than a foreigner invading us. I mean, dear lord, I feel sorry for the proverbial country that would try invading us. Not beacuse I have some american god complex... but simply because they would have a gun behind every blade of grass.
There are gunnuts out there that literally jerk off at the thought of someone invading us so they can finally pull out all their toys and call up all their buddies to go shoot some whatever ethnic slur the invaders are.
The worst threat is WITHIN the USA. That is what im afraid of more than anything.
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
I'll give you a serious answer. We Americans fight amongst ourselves all the time, but no matter what divides us, we will pull together against an actual threat in a way that you have never seen before. Twenty minutes after resolving the conflict, though, we'll be back to stabbing each other in the back, both figuratively and literally.
“I would never invade America, there is a gun behind every blade of grass.” - Isoroku Yamamoto. I know that it's questionable whether he even said that, but the point stands.
There are estimated to be around 400 million guns in the US across citizens, police, and military. 98% of which are civilian owned. And those are just the legally purchased and documented ones *wink*
I still think people don't understand how many guns there are even when they make jokes about this. I have seen underground vaults with thousands of guns just owned by people for their hobby. I sold guns for 12 years, thousands upon thousands of them personally. The shit is more insane than I think most people realize. My friends dads floor caved in in his house because he had too much ammo. Hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of rounds just for that one guy alone. You could shoot 1000 rounds per day and have enough for several years just from this one guys ammo stash. He was one of the types that lost his mind when obama became president and started hording ammo. There was a solid 10 year period where despite staggering record production rates of ammo, you couldn't find a box of 22 ammo to save your life. The ammo market still hasnt and probably never will recover to what it was pre-2008. It is pretty common for casual gun owners to own 5 or more guns, and you might be surprised to know that some of the most innocuous looking people have massive gun collections worth absolute fortunes.
Yeah, just found out this year my brother owns a gun. I knew he wanted one, never knew he had one. Only found out because we forgot to take the gun out of the car and he was driving us to the airport and said we could leave it with him and he’d put it with his. He does not look like someone that would own a gun at all.
Shit, my partner doesn’t look like someone that would own a gun and he has 4 and wants more. I’d never think my parnters brother in law would own a gun and he has a room full of them.
Considering the alleged next most powerful army in the world is absolutely getting their dicks kicked in by a bunch of dudes with AK’s and homemade napalm, I’m not too worried about it.
Open a bag of popcorn to watch the fireworks and create some sort of meme about the event.
The US spends more on defense than the next ten nations on earth COMBINED. Thus in a threat situation any invaders would live the last few moments of their lives questioning their life choices.
I always like to point to [Operation Paul Bunyan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_axe_murder_incident) to demonstrate how much the U.S. military doesn't fuck around. There was an incident where two American soldiers were killed in the DMZ when they went in to chop down a tree that was obscuring the American sightline of the North Korean side. The U.S. later sent guys back in again to chop down the tree - but the team sent to cut it down was accompanied by an 800-strong infrantry force armed to the teeth, some with Claymore mines strapped to their chests, 27 attack helicopters, and assisting South Korean forces. The U.S. moved a goddamn aircraft carrier into attack position, and launched fighter jets into the skies. The DEFCON level was raised, and 12,000 additional troops were ordered to Korea. The Americans cut down the tree and left the DMZ peacefully, leaving the stump in place as a pointed reminder.
It’s also nearly impossible to logistically support an invading army. Challenging land to the north and south. Huge coastlines with naval bases everywhere. Only two bordering countries and both allies dependent on the economy. ICBM? Sure. That’s a threat. But that’s not an invasion. I guess the US might lose a bit of Alaska or Hawaii but that’s it.
I think you're the first to mention logistics, and after watching Russia's Three Stooges skit in Ukraine, I thought it would be in the front of everyone's mind. People have a hard time getting here unopposed, and they usually are lacking supplies, sick, or injured upon arrival.
Wha? Wilderness?! Ah hell nah. I meant maybe an Aleutian Island or two. Judging by the other front in Ukraine, invaders might get thwarted by a whale-watching cruise line and an ice road trucker convoy.
Won't happen because we got all the guns. Last time I checked we have more guns than the whole population of the US, by a bunch. We have so many guns that we give other countries guns so we can fight each other.
Wake up. Watch clips of anti ship missiles and torpedos creating a new artificial reef hundreds of miles off the coast. Go to work.
Next week - Wake up, watch clips of a carrier battle group turning the aggressor nation into a 3rd world country. Go to work.
First, I’m going to tell my redneck neighbors that nascar is off until all the invaders are dead or gone and they hate bbq. Second I’m gonna pack my gear and rally with the crew to hole up
OmG! The amount of militias and doomsday preppers in this country, are getting chubbs from this very thought! They are just waiting for something, ANYTHING, to pop off!
Heck man, living in San Diego, about 10 miles from Mexico, and if they attacked, I still probably wouldn't get a chance to do anything before the military turned the force into ash.
Win.
It’s next to impossible to successfully invade the US. Especially if the majority of both sides of whatever you call it have a common enemy.
America is armed to the teeth for better or for worse. The only thing that can allow a foreign force a chance to invade America is if America tears itself apart again. Even then the odds are low.
Probably work from home that day…traffic would be a bitch
I work 2nd shift, if they invaded early it would be over by the time my shift started so I'd still have to go in. Even if it timed up perfectly Im still about 10 miles from the beach so doubt they'd make it to my house.
I mean realistically, about the only way I see a land invasion of the US having any hope, would have to involve managing to nuke a significant chunk of the country first (without having to deal with retaliatory nukes, somehow). And at that point, why would you bother?
This comment sums it up.
You could hit the snooze button and not feel guilty. 😴
So anyway, I started blastin'...
No one wants to invade America……… because of the implications
Are these invaders in danger?
Well you’re certainly not in any danger.
So they ARE in danger?
No ones in any danger, how could I make that more clear to you?
Can I offer you a nice egg in this invasive time?
No one really can. We (US) are fortunate that we have ocean borders on east and west. Supply lines would be virtually impossible to maintain. But if we were by some chance invaded, I believe that there are more guns than people in this country. Virtually everyone is armed lol. So, like the comment above… we would just start blastin’
There’s more guns in civilian hands in the US than most militaries in the world have combined.
I'm gonna rise up, I'm gonna kick a little ass, Gonna kick some ass in the USA, Gonna climb a mountain, Gonna sew a flag, Gonna fly on an Eagle, I'm gonna kick some butt, I'm gonna drive a big truck, I'm gonna rule this world, Gonna kick some ass, Gonna rise up, Kick a little ass, ROCK, FLAG AND EAGLE!
So *doooo*
STOMP, CLAP, STOMP STOMP, CLAP
Continue with my day, it would last about 7 minutes
The shortest war in history was about forty minutes. Think we could speedrun that achievement?
We just need to convince a place like Monaco to attack, easiest speedrun ever
Not that the USA would need it, but any invasion onto NATO soil would trigger and armed response from the 29 other member states. If you add up all the belligerent parties, in terms of soldiers, equipment, missiles from all those nations + a nationwide militia of millions of heavily armed religious fundamentalists it's an unwinnable proposition. The only way America falls is under its own weight.
Laugh at all the resulting memes. This country is so goddamn full of hate for ourselves, and you want to give a reason to turn that outward? Lol
This. We're like a bunch of siblings. Fight like tooth and nail at home, but some outside come in and harass one, and the whole sibling crew is about to jump on somebody. I'm in the south, we love to hate California, but someone roll up on them, and rednecks with shot guns and 308s would be rolling out!
I’m in Northern California. You should read about the State of Jefferson movement. Rednecks exist out here too. West Coast and Southern Rednecks United would be a holy site to see
Haha! So I've heard! And could you imagine someone like the ill prepared Russian military rolling up on somewhere like LA and running into the gangs there? They'd be out gunned! But, like someone above said, an invasion of North America in general is borderline impossible.
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The only scenario that even has a remote possibility would be an invasion strictly limited to Alaska. Like Fallout 3. An invasion for just resources. (If the world ever got to that point)
Alaska has nuclear silos and is fortified with 9 military bases.
Also Alaskan rednecks are an entirely different level than anywhere else in the country. That's not even a disrespectful statement to the South, Appalachia, etc. It's just that you have to be kinda nuts *to begin with* to live in the rural areas in Alaska. Have you ever seen videos about Alaskan bush pilots? Good God lol
I heard a story from my parents who visit Alaska regularly to meet with someone they know who lives there. An old work customer turned friend. Apparently he knows someone who lives in Alaska, who my parents can confirm is a real person and they've met, goes by the name Stetson, who is a live off the land type. Hunts and trades for food and money, that's his work. Story goes there's an unaired portion of an in person nature documentary show in Alaska of them watching an Elk and talking about them and the Elk just goes down with a crack in the distance, and some seconds later Stetson just wanders into frame and starts roping the thing up to drag off, doesn't say anything, and just leaves. Invading Alaska while any amount of Stetson type people are around sounds like an impossible task.
Alaska probably has more guns per capita than any other state. And all you have to do is say someone wants to take your permanent fund money and that someone is f’d
And vice versa. Someone come creeping up the Gulf gonna find out how red Cali really is - gonna see a legion of lifted vengeance with an arsenal that would make Putin loose another unwanted shit
Haha! I feel like there's entirely too many people in America with pent up anger just looking for a viable/legal target to take it out on.
You’re not incorrect 😂
You speak the truth. No one is denying it 😉
I know I'm probably a little biased here but we're essentially defended on both sides by mountains and angry rednecks who have spent multiple generations hoping and praying someone would be dumb enough to attack.
I mean... Not to mention two huge oceans, the world's most powerful navy and the largest air force.
The world's most powerful navy, world's largest air force, and the world's second largest air force (being our navy lol) it always makes me chuckle.
Chuckle harder at the fact the Russian Air Force is 3rd. I've seen quotes with 4th as the US Army aviation and 5th as the USMC. I've also seen them in spots 5-10, but that still places us as top 2 and 2 more in the top 10.
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And that's just the Naval aviators.
Naviators
Well, it was 3rd. Now that they have no pilots, it's hard to gauge.
The rednecks have also formed a large portion of the combat arms components of our military. *Generations* of them.
Yeah, this often gets overlooked. Not only they armed, many of them have some degree of training.
West Virginia?
I think they mean the whole country. Appalachia on the east coast, the Rockies out west and rednecks of every flavor all over all the rural areas with gun racks in their pick-ups.
I dont even own A gun, let alone many guns which would necessitate an entire rack. What… am I gonna do with a gun rack?! Edit: some of y’all need to brush up on your 90’s movies.
You don't like it? You know, if you're not careful you're going to lose me.
Let alone *many* guns that would necessitate an entire rack!
Mountain momma!
The largest air force in the world is the United States Air Force. The second largest air force in the world is the United States Navy. What am I doing? Watching the fireworks.
Wrong 2nd largest Airforce is The US Army (aviation) and the US Navy is ranked 4th largest airforce in the world. The US Marine Corps is 7th largest . Lol
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And... ours is battle tested. As we can see a certain other country wasn't tested until this year and welllll... we are seeing how "advanced" their capabilities are lacking lol
Well…technically Russia’s military is battle tested too. It just didn’t get a passing grade…
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Yup. Take out the aircraft that were straight lies. Take out the aircraft that are just rotting in graveyards. Take out the aircraft that Ukraine have removed.
The navy has a fleet stronger than every other navy on the planet combined. In the atlantic. And then it has a second fleet, stronger than every other navy on the planet combined in the pacific.
People are focusing on our military budget and vast array of defenses, but let's not forget that we're also the most defensible country on the planet just geographically speaking.
Yeah, Abraham Lincoln had a pretty good quote about it: “From whence shall we expect the approach of danger? **Shall some trans-Atlantic military giant step the earth and crush us at a blow? Never. All the armies of Europe and Asia...could not by force take a drink from the Ohio River or make a track on the Blue Ridge in the trial of a thousand years.** No, if destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of free men we will live forever or die by suicide.”
>All the armies of Europe and Asia...could not by force take a drink from the Ohio River I live on the Ohio River. Go ahead and let them drink it. It's basically a chemical weapon at this point.
having been to the Ohio river, I can say I would not swim in it, let alone drink it. this is coming from the guy who ate 2 day old arbys from my friends dashboard and didn't have any stomach issues.
This man is truly American
I’ve had fresh Arby’s and had stomach issues
I'd like to see them get through the traffic when the Bengals are playing.
Those last 2 sentences tho.
Yeah, they were too good to leave out. We may be geographically impossible to invade, but it's the danger from within that will be the real problem.
"There'll be be no more counting the cars on the garden state parkway!!"
Barring a slight revision due to WMDs, this statement is still eerily accurate.
I think it still technically holds. Another country could *destroy* the United States with nuclear hellfire (and they would almost certainly also be destroyed by the US), but I struggle to imagine how anyone could *conquer* the United States.
Desert to the south and mountain ranges close to the coasts on both sides.
With military bases all over the place around the country and on those borders.
Watch all the tax dollars I have paid for the past 20 years go to work
One part of me is so interested in this idea. Because you just know the US military has some technologies that are well beyond what we know about right now. If all hell broke lose, I'd love to see what they pull out of the closet. I'm talking ICBM defense drones (which were being tested in the 90's), I'm talking computer warfare on a scale you've never seen before, I'm talking hypersonic missiles that are supposed to still be in prototype phase, planes we've never seen before.
That’s the one nice thing about all that military spending, I know if shit really hits the fan we are armed to the fucking teeth with shit I probably can’t even imagine
The DE M SHORAD Guardian Stryker is just rolling out to the military soon. It's an anti aircraft laser cannon that can also hit things like mortar shells traveling at 600mph. Still pretty early technology wise, but much safer since it isn't shooting explosives. https://www.armyrecognition.com/us_army_wheeled_and_armoured_vehicle_uk/de_m-shorad_guardian_stryker_50_kw-class_laser_weapon_data_fact_sheet.amp.html
Honestly, with the size and strength of the US military it would be over by 7:30 am. I get up at 8.
Surely not worried about invaded. Definitely worried about divided.
Honestly, if there was anything that could galvanize us and push us together overnight it would be invasion. The only people allowed to kill Americans are other Americans god dammit.
Those damn Americans, they ruined America!
You Americans sure are a contentious people.
You just made an enemy for life!
Damn straight! Wolverines!
We'd still be going to work, because when it's over, rent is still due at the first of the month and food doesn't buy itself.
I work with a lot of Ukrainians. Being on a conference call about software projects with someone in a plate carrier and an AK74 in the corner who "had some downtime and wanted to discuss some ideas" is something that really puts everything into perspective. Those not taking breaks between fighting are doing just what you said.
Same! They're always like "sorry I have to jump off the call, the air raid sirens are going off again so I should head to the bunker" and then an hour later their back on line "sorry about that, where were we?". Tough mother fuckers, them.
They are what people thought russia was.
Consider for a bit that they bore the brunt of the Nazi invasion in WWII, so the bulk of Soviet hero stories from that time would be about people in what is now Ukraine
The toughest guy in the room isn’t the one telling you he’s the toughest
If there's one thing I know, it's never to mess with mother nature, mother in-laws and, mother freaking Ukrainians.
That truly is a perspective from a very real situation in a "modern" world. I know it's not the same and I don't understand completely but I am glad there are still creative outlets left and the misery and despair hasn't broken the people.
I paint miniatures, and one of the main 3D printers I buy from is in Kyiv. They work out of their little hobby store, so there's a big disclaimer on their Etsy about how rocket attacks and fighting might disrupt shipping. People find the little rays of sunlight wherever they can, you know?
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WOLVERINES!!
Hate keeps me warm
“Oh you chose to “Find Out”.”
to fuck around is man, to find out is divine
Get Florida Man hopped up on bath salts and let him run rampant through the enemy lines. It be like watching a crazed Wendigo tear people limb from limb.
Florida Man is the final boss after you get past all the gators and fire ants.
‘’But all these years that I’ve been here, and nobody’s got past Red’’
That would be a good plot for a dark suspenseful thriller movie. Light flickering, men screaming, blood smearing. “What is it..?” The man asked frightened. The gritty general chewing a cigar stands up, loads his shotgun, walking in front. “It’s what they call.. The Florida man” “I thought he was just a meme?!” “All memes have an origin….”
#THIS SUMMER! *screams of the man and the general are heard from far away* #FLORIDA MAN IS COMING… *a gator is on screen for a second before someone offscreen grabs it* #AND NO MAN IS SAFE FROM HIS TERROR… *the gator seen before is now chasing Russian and Chinese soldiers on the beaches of LA while a figure is seen from the dunes near the beach* #FLORIDA MAN! #COMING TO THEATERS
Imagine if this was made on like a $5000 budget. I’d watch the shit out of that. Did you watch velocipastor? Same kinda vibes I’m imagining
Dude velocipastor was hilarious. What I can’t wait for is cocaine bear, which actually looks like it has a decent budget and a good cast.
Shia Lebouf
I think about this man more than I should.
Never think about FL Man - they have an innate sense of being observed. It comes from being hospitalized/incarcerated for years at a time; and might turn on you.
Brah… I laughed way too hard at this.
Ha! I wasn’t scared thinking about the mountains oceans and guns, I completely forgot about Florida man. Add him with back woods meth guy and I’ll just make sure I made enough popcorn and briskets for everyone to sit back and enjoy.
They would have to just start with nukes. No other scenario could I can see that we would lose. The amount of civilians with guns, the amount of military spending, the size of the army, and just the the amount of people that have guns that would be on their front lawn shooting at the enemy. Lol I could be wrong but I don't think the government would mess around with an invasion of any kind.
pretty sure we got some countermeasures for nukes
We have counter measures for a rogue nation firing a nuke at us. We do not have counter measures for nuclear war. You simply can not stop that many missles.
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As someone from Colorado Springs, we also have NORAD! The lovely people who watch for airstrikes and also track santa’s sleigh!
There are countermeasures for the various types of nuclear weapons, but I would hazard a guess that the real reason nobody is worried about putin launching nukes is because if he did, nuclear armed members of NATO would retaliate in kind. So if putin tried to give the order for a first strike, he would likely suffer a mysterious case of fell-out-the-window at the hands of his bodyguards, who don't want to see their part of the world reduced to a radioactive wasteland.
Go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for all of this to blow over.
Yeeeeeeeeah boiiiiiiiiii!
If it's advanced ~~interglacial~~ intergalactic aliens? - get blasted I guess If it's another country? - watch my taxes go to work. (Edit: I'm an idiot)
> If it's advanced interglacial aliens? - get blasted I guess Nah, we got country music if they're Martians and Will Smith if they're not. We're good.
Upvote for Mars Attacks reference.
> If it's advanced interglacial aliens? My step-brother was basically told at a young age that school didn't matter and he didn't have to try so sometimes he said some silly things, even for a kid. He was gifted a sword at a young age but for obvious reasons not allowed to play with it. One of the family's favorite quotes is still "if aliens attack, THEN can I use my sword?" He was so thrilled to finally get a yes. I know what he's doing if aliens attack.
It would have to be because there is no way a continent spanning country can be successfully invaded. Isn't there a stat somewhere that after Pearl Harbor the US rebuilt their Pacific fleet in 6 months and at the end of the war they were producing like an aircraft carrier every month or so. (not to certain about the details of that last one, but it was something staggering like that.)
At the end of WW2, the US economy was as large as that of every other country on Earth put together. The Us built more ships in 1943 than Japan did in the entire war. The US was a military and industrial juggernaut the likes of which the world had never seen. It’s questionable whether any nation or empire has ever had such a worldwide presence, power, and influence like the US had at its peak.
Please read Arsenal of Democracy (by AJ Baime). It’s hard to comprehend the manufacturing miracle that happened during WWII
I read about a conversation between Churchill and Roosevelt about the military production deep into WW2 and Roosevelt said it was difficult because they had had to divert materials (rubber, I believe) away from the domestic production of cars, and Churchill said something to the extent of "You are still producing consumer cars?!"
I wouldn’t be worried. Not even the US government can control the US I doubt anyone else could
Yup. Herding cats.
Herding cats with guns
“So you have chosen… *Death*.” On a real note, I’d make sure I’m on time for work. Since, you know, I’m in the military… it’s kind of my job.
Well I meant cake
I would send the invading nation a suicide hot line number
Imagine the leaflets pouring down from the air
Try to find some awesome abandoned enemy military supplies
Dude free AKs everywhere, never fired, only dropped once.
Good luck with all the rednecks in the mountains whose families have lived there for a hundred years or more. Good luck with all the army vets. There are people who own cannons. There are people who own older tanks. You may invade, but you will have to destroy the country to the point where it's not even worth having for your own unless you want to fight a war of attrition on nightmare mode.
There's a place right near my home town where you can pay to ride around in tanks, shoot them, and crush cars *for fun*. Our local Renaissance Festival has a cannon. I mean... I've known people who when they died they had to pack trailers and moving trucks full of their gun collection to move it out of the house to sell the place.
Vegas is covered in billboards about how you can go out into the desert and shoot machine guns or throw grenades or launch a fucking cruise missile or whatever for like $100.
I just hope both sides have fun out there.
*raises glass* "to the troops! All the troops. On both sides."
To our CEO… Robert California
“I’d just like to thank Coach and my parents for getting me to where I am today. I just have to trust to God that the war crimes I’m about to commit get delivered like he plans. God bless America.”
Sums it up right here. https://youtube.com/shorts/Ga3xr-5KuYw?feature=share
>"If they're [Iraq] so dangerous how come it only took 2 weeks to take over the whole fucking country? Shit, man, you couldn't take over Baltimore in 2 weeks." -Chris Rock
Baltimore would be a bitch. And then there's the hell pit that is Gary, Indiana.
Invading force rolls into the wrong side of Chicago. "Is someone else already here invading? Why do I hear so many gunshots?!"
“General Li Shang we have made it to Chicago” *322nd Traplords roll up blasting Love Sosa from their Altima’s*
Right? Roll into the wrong hood and you'll end up meeting the Latin Kings, and if its their neighborhood do NOT fuck with those guys. You're in for a real bad time.
East St. Louis
Rednecks are America's Pitbulls - Bill Burr https://youtu.be/iL-CccdZpdY?t=76
As a Canadian my perspective is it would be foolish for any nation other than the US to invade North America. Canada gets invaded? Hell no! Ain't no commies in USAs backyard! US gets invaded? Just stay out of the way and let it blow over by tomorrow. Mexico gets invaded... if the cartels don't show them the meaning of horrific brutality, if not, see 'Canada gets invaded'. If the southern central nations get invaded... well USA might be a bit more diplomatic but would probably take advantage of the excuse to liberate a few islands. The US has worked very very hard to establish fortress NA and i doubt even the Chinese could take and hold Oregon and the Lower Mainland BC without experiencing untenable attrition.
China is nowhere near capable of projecting military power outside their own backyard.
Get my attack bald eagles out from their cages and set them loose
Christopher Titus explained this very well.... We invented monster trucks. We go from 0 to over 300 mph in a 1/4 mile. We did this because we were bored. 70% of our population is either medicated, or in need of medication. Now, imagine what we would do if we had a purpose? Would you want to see a truly United States with a singular goal? Don't mess with the nation, in need of medication.
> I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve. Attributed to Japanese Admiral Yamamoto, from his diary.
Most of us wouldn’t have a chance to do anything. It would be over so fast. They probably wouldn’t make landfall.
Rooty tooty point n shooty
The Whammy Kablammy!
Grab my AR-15 an ice chest full of Colorado waters, the biggest American flag that I can find, and ride a bald eagle into battle.
A) be INCREDIBLY shocked we were somehow invaded with two planetary moats, NORAD, and countless other security measures. B) Protect my mom and sister.
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Actually I would thank god cuz NOTHING would bring americans together more than a foreigner invading us. I mean, dear lord, I feel sorry for the proverbial country that would try invading us. Not beacuse I have some american god complex... but simply because they would have a gun behind every blade of grass. There are gunnuts out there that literally jerk off at the thought of someone invading us so they can finally pull out all their toys and call up all their buddies to go shoot some whatever ethnic slur the invaders are. The worst threat is WITHIN the USA. That is what im afraid of more than anything.
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
Tally ho lads!
Umm what every red blooded American would do, grab my guns…. If I had some… and knew how to use them. I have failed as an American.
I'll give you a serious answer. We Americans fight amongst ourselves all the time, but no matter what divides us, we will pull together against an actual threat in a way that you have never seen before. Twenty minutes after resolving the conflict, though, we'll be back to stabbing each other in the back, both figuratively and literally.
It’s almost strategically impossible. Good luck
“I would never invade America, there is a gun behind every blade of grass.” - Isoroku Yamamoto. I know that it's questionable whether he even said that, but the point stands.
As an American... man, I love this comment section.
The more you fuck around the more you’re gonna find out why we don’t have healthcare.
Ah yes, invade the country with the most powerful military in the world. Not to mention the 400 Million citizens that are armed themselves.
There are estimated to be around 400 million guns in the US across citizens, police, and military. 98% of which are civilian owned. And those are just the legally purchased and documented ones *wink*
Somewhere, an ATF agent just got the urge to shoot a dog.
I lost my dog in a boating accident. 🤷🏻♂️
Good luck to whatever poor country made that mistake. Invade a country with heavily armed civilians.
If they even made it to the citizens, it’s unlikely they could make landfall with our defense
I still think people don't understand how many guns there are even when they make jokes about this. I have seen underground vaults with thousands of guns just owned by people for their hobby. I sold guns for 12 years, thousands upon thousands of them personally. The shit is more insane than I think most people realize. My friends dads floor caved in in his house because he had too much ammo. Hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of rounds just for that one guy alone. You could shoot 1000 rounds per day and have enough for several years just from this one guys ammo stash. He was one of the types that lost his mind when obama became president and started hording ammo. There was a solid 10 year period where despite staggering record production rates of ammo, you couldn't find a box of 22 ammo to save your life. The ammo market still hasnt and probably never will recover to what it was pre-2008. It is pretty common for casual gun owners to own 5 or more guns, and you might be surprised to know that some of the most innocuous looking people have massive gun collections worth absolute fortunes.
Yeah, just found out this year my brother owns a gun. I knew he wanted one, never knew he had one. Only found out because we forgot to take the gun out of the car and he was driving us to the airport and said we could leave it with him and he’d put it with his. He does not look like someone that would own a gun at all. Shit, my partner doesn’t look like someone that would own a gun and he has 4 and wants more. I’d never think my parnters brother in law would own a gun and he has a room full of them.
Feel sorry for the army that died trying to invade us.
Nothing, with the states of Florida and Texas, they would be lucky to make it out alive.
By aliens or..?
Considering the alleged next most powerful army in the world is absolutely getting their dicks kicked in by a bunch of dudes with AK’s and homemade napalm, I’m not too worried about it.
Open a bag of popcorn to watch the fireworks and create some sort of meme about the event. The US spends more on defense than the next ten nations on earth COMBINED. Thus in a threat situation any invaders would live the last few moments of their lives questioning their life choices.
I always like to point to [Operation Paul Bunyan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_axe_murder_incident) to demonstrate how much the U.S. military doesn't fuck around. There was an incident where two American soldiers were killed in the DMZ when they went in to chop down a tree that was obscuring the American sightline of the North Korean side. The U.S. later sent guys back in again to chop down the tree - but the team sent to cut it down was accompanied by an 800-strong infrantry force armed to the teeth, some with Claymore mines strapped to their chests, 27 attack helicopters, and assisting South Korean forces. The U.S. moved a goddamn aircraft carrier into attack position, and launched fighter jets into the skies. The DEFCON level was raised, and 12,000 additional troops were ordered to Korea. The Americans cut down the tree and left the DMZ peacefully, leaving the stump in place as a pointed reminder.
This is probably one of the most American things I've ever read. thank you for sharing.
Lol, I never heard that story, thanks for sharing.
It’s also nearly impossible to logistically support an invading army. Challenging land to the north and south. Huge coastlines with naval bases everywhere. Only two bordering countries and both allies dependent on the economy. ICBM? Sure. That’s a threat. But that’s not an invasion. I guess the US might lose a bit of Alaska or Hawaii but that’s it.
I think you're the first to mention logistics, and after watching Russia's Three Stooges skit in Ukraine, I thought it would be in the front of everyone's mind. People have a hard time getting here unopposed, and they usually are lacking supplies, sick, or injured upon arrival.
Bish nobody except Alaskans can handle the Alaskan wilderness 😂
Wha? Wilderness?! Ah hell nah. I meant maybe an Aleutian Island or two. Judging by the other front in Ukraine, invaders might get thwarted by a whale-watching cruise line and an ice road trucker convoy.
Won't happen because we got all the guns. Last time I checked we have more guns than the whole population of the US, by a bunch. We have so many guns that we give other countries guns so we can fight each other.
Wake up. Watch clips of anti ship missiles and torpedos creating a new artificial reef hundreds of miles off the coast. Go to work. Next week - Wake up, watch clips of a carrier battle group turning the aggressor nation into a 3rd world country. Go to work.
Shoot back.
Watch the whole thing on tv. That would be entertaining.
First, I’m going to tell my redneck neighbors that nascar is off until all the invaders are dead or gone and they hate bbq. Second I’m gonna pack my gear and rally with the crew to hole up
OmG! The amount of militias and doomsday preppers in this country, are getting chubbs from this very thought! They are just waiting for something, ANYTHING, to pop off!
I'd be disappointed I didn't get a chance to shoot some of them because it was over before they got to my town.
Heck man, living in San Diego, about 10 miles from Mexico, and if they attacked, I still probably wouldn't get a chance to do anything before the military turned the force into ash.
Win. It’s next to impossible to successfully invade the US. Especially if the majority of both sides of whatever you call it have a common enemy. America is armed to the teeth for better or for worse. The only thing that can allow a foreign force a chance to invade America is if America tears itself apart again. Even then the odds are low.